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Speaker 1: Question. Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. All right,

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Speaker 1: So Ange, you don't know this, but you're actually part

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Speaker 1: of our theme.

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. What is it?

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Speaker 3: Suprema Supremo role, Suprema Supremo role, Suprema shut, Suprema.

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Speaker 1: Roll, Suprema. You're gonna get a verse supremo, he says.

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Speaker 1: She says, yeah, she's a genius. Yeah, better than three

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Speaker 1: heads all rise with Martinez Supremo Supremo role. Came Suprema

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Speaker 1: son So Supremo role.

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Speaker 4: My name is Fante and I'm doing it right there

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Speaker 4: with Angie.

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Speaker 5: Ma.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ladies night.

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Speaker 3: Supremo son soun Supremo role called Suprema sun Supremo Roll.

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Speaker 6: I'm Sugar Steve. Ye'all spit a verse for you. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: up close and personal.

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Speaker 7: It's like, yeah, you know that's right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And just like Angie, I made this last night.

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Speaker 1: Sure do it again.

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Speaker 6: I'm Sugar Steve. Y'all spit a verse for you. Come

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Speaker 6: get this, Sugar. Yeah, up close and personal.

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Speaker 1: Was the first.

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Speaker 7: My name is Edgie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in the room. Yea.

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Speaker 7: They made me.

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Speaker 4: Supp sup sup Roll.

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Speaker 1: Ladies. Another episode of Quest Love Supreme gonna be very

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Speaker 1: very interesting, Steve. That was hard for delivery.

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Speaker 6: I practiced for eight hours.

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Speaker 2: You guys could have given me a heads up. I

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Speaker 2: would have had some bars bars for you.

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Speaker 1: The joy of this show is watching people think quick

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Speaker 1: on their feet.

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Speaker 2: I had anxiety because we started the show in a

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Speaker 2: weird unique you.

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Speaker 1: Got our way. See, you can't put it out there

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Speaker 1: like that, And what do you mean you gotta you can't.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I have to have to say, okay, manifest anxiety.

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Speaker 1: Anxiety.

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Speaker 7: I can't anxiety.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's have them mo of silence people.

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Speaker 7: Okay, m hm.

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Speaker 1: We are going to breathe in seven seconds in our nose,

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Speaker 1: hold it five seconds in our mouth, seven seconds in,

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Speaker 1: hold it five seconds out, seven seconds in, five seconds out? Okay,

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Speaker 1: are we calm?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And we all got COVID. Now you have no idea

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Speaker 1: how much I needed that today.

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Speaker 7: Really, we just don't briefe. We don't don't put that

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Speaker 7: in the air. He just said, only put it.

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Speaker 1: In the air, Steve. Only Steve's humors is his defense

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Speaker 1: for emotions.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I'm very disappointed in my role, calls or whatever.

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Speaker 7: No, you're not more disappointed than me.

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Speaker 6: No, No, you actually beat me you guys.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even hear the beat. My headphones are low.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's happenings.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So, ladies and gentlemen, all guest today

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Speaker 1: is a super legendary figure radio Hall of Fame inductee.

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Speaker 1: I should add, yes, you got it inducted when I did.

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Speaker 1: What year?

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Speaker 7: Oh well, I was the year before last?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 2: I heard a bunch of COVID time, so we didn't

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Speaker 2: get in all the people.

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Speaker 1: All the people of color basically just got lumped in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what somebody was like, Hey, there's no people

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Speaker 2: of color here, let's get them all.

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Speaker 1: In this year, right exactly. She's a taste maker who

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Speaker 1: I feel her voice has raised generation after generation, a

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Speaker 1: very trusted voice on radio. I will also say Fante

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Speaker 1: reminded us that she was a Grammy nominated artist. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I totally forgot about Ladies night, I've come out about

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Speaker 1: right exactly. She's an activist. She is a legend. She basically,

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Speaker 1: like what I truly know Angie for is her legendary interviews,

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Speaker 1: of which she was kind of podcasting before podcasting was

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Speaker 1: a thing, Like you would do these legendary half hour

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Speaker 1: interview blocks. I always wondered how you were able to

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Speaker 2: But I think when I came up, there was only

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Speaker 2: one you know, there was only one place to go.

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Speaker 2: It was only one station, so there was no competition.

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Speaker 2: So when you have no competition, you could do whatever

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Speaker 7: That's right. It was just hot, you know, it was

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Speaker 2: We were the only place to get hip hop, so

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Speaker 2: we could pretty much do anything we want and we

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Speaker 7: And so.

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Speaker 2: When competition came, I almost had to light I was

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Speaker 2: so sad because I knew everything was going to change.

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Speaker 2: I knew interviews were going to have to get shorter

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Speaker 2: because we're in competition. I knew that the days of

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Speaker 2: like doing whatever we wanted, because how it felt, we're

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Speaker 2: kind of over. But so I was lucky enough to

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Speaker 2: come up at a time where it was really just

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Speaker 2: a free for all, kind of a free for all.

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Speaker 1: I see. Oh, by the way, ladies, let's get our

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Speaker 1: hands to get no.

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Speaker 7: Oh, sorry, let's get it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get it together. For Angie Martinez, thanks guy. Was

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Speaker 1: what was the highlight of your day.

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Speaker 7: This is the highlight of my day.

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Speaker 1: This was what time did you get You asked me

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Speaker 1: about my day. When do you get up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: I normally get up around seven. I had to worst

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Speaker 2: my grain last night, so I got up in the

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Speaker 2: middle of night three am, and then I was up

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Speaker 2: for a couple hours and my sleep was all messed

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Speaker 2: up last night anyway. So I got up today because

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Speaker 2: we were doing an event earlier for this big podcast

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Speaker 2: that we did around the Life after Death. The celebration

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Speaker 2: of that, I saw miss to see there, which was

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Speaker 2: a really nice moment in my day because I haven't

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Speaker 2: seen him in so long. And then I just was

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Speaker 2: kind of been floating around today. It was a stressful

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Speaker 2: a little bit day. That's why when I came here

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Speaker 2: and you telling me about how I need to meditate

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Speaker 2: in the morning, I was really receptive to this information

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Speaker 2: you were giving me because it's it's.

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Speaker 1: It's I think it's important, like you got to start

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Speaker 2: It's one thing to know that, and it's another thing

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Speaker 2: to exercise and do it regularly and be diligent about it.

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Speaker 1: Most of us, when we wake up, we grab our phone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we doom and gloom. Literally, grabbing your phone is like, hey,

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Speaker 1: hand me my bottle of pain, handy my stress. Now,

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Speaker 1: just because I'm currently in that situation with organizing the

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Speaker 1: Roots Picnic and these movies I'm doing, and twelve other

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Speaker 1: projects that you know, if we don't, if we don't

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Speaker 8: To I like what Fonte said a few months ago,

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Speaker 8: that first thing he does in the morning is take

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Speaker 8: like a whole bunch of deep breaths, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got to. Yeah, man, you got to. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know what I started doing lately that has been

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Speaker 2: a thing for me is I started golfing at golf Now,

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Speaker 2: is that like the weirdest thing.

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Speaker 1: I can't even believe that's me.

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Speaker 7: I love golf.

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Speaker 1: I'm jealous of you assuming north of forty people, yes,

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Speaker 1: I feel like, like everyone my age is now like

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Speaker 1: Roots are golfing, golfing and stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's two things. It's the one thing I do that

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Speaker 2: I'm not multitasking. There's no phone involved there. It's just

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get better at this very specific thing

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Speaker 2: and this whatever it is, my short game. I look

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Speaker 2: whatever it is, and it's and you're outside in this

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Speaker 1: The who taught you how to play golf?

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Speaker 7: Nobody.

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Speaker 2: One of my girlfriends who golfs, was like, come. I

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Speaker 7: She was like, so what none of us do? Nobody's good.

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Speaker 7: Don't worry.

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Speaker 2: And so I went to just ride the cart and

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Speaker 1: And her name is not Ashley, is it?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 7: But I have golf. I do golf with actually sometimes.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say I golf.

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Speaker 1: Got a hustler, like I didn't know that she was

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Speaker 7: She's been golfing a long time.

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Speaker 1: Your child, Ashley Witherspoon actually.

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Speaker 2: Helps with me with my podcast, by the way, too.

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Speaker 2: She helps with a lot of the digital on my pie.

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Speaker 2: And and then when we GoF we golf last week

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Speaker 1: The only thing I won't do with Ashley is anymore

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Speaker 1: She's very intense with game nights.

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Speaker 5: I got to say, I'm excited to see squads of

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you my other friend, Jamie, another woman,

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Speaker 2: golfed and Compton together.

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Speaker 7: Yes, and.

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Speaker 1: There's a golf course in Compton.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I don't want to be correct me if

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Speaker 2: I might be right outside of Compton, but it's the

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Speaker 2: and it was so dope to see that and feel that,

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Speaker 7: It's not that, that's not the scene.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if you're going to start.

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Speaker 2: At any point, go there and feel and get catch

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Speaker 2: the vibe, and then on my list, it's a good place.

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Speaker 1: I was supposed to start with miniature golf first and

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Speaker 1: then don't do that.

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Speaker 7: Don't do that place.

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Speaker 1: So golfing is where golfing is where you find yes.

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Speaker 7: For me, that's a thing, but I don't.

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Speaker 2: I can't golf every day, So clearly I need to

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Speaker 2: do some type of meditation in the morning. It's just

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Speaker 2: I have to just I know what I need to do.

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Speaker 2: It's just about getting diligent about doing it. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I have all these things that I want to do

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Speaker 2: and achieve, and sometimes it all gets overwhelming, and like

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Speaker 2: you said, I have to get inside. It's the only

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Speaker 1: Usually this is my last question, like what is it

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Speaker 1: that is still on your bucket list for achieving that?

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Speaker 2: Kidding, it's it's an endless list of things. But I

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Speaker 2: that I you know, I launched the podcast, paid for it,

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Speaker 2: we shoot it, we have a whole production team and.

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Speaker 1: Very professional looking Thank you. I like it.

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Speaker 5: Y'all got it, y'all you got your head on your

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but it doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 1: from the same island? There are they?

444
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 5: Jamaica, Jamaican, She's from Trinidad, Barbado, Barbados.

445
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, hey, Bill, when we need them right exactly.

446
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: So when she first walked up to me, it was

447
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,479
Speaker 1: like a young Grace Jones and she comes up to

448
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: me like you and I look like, oh ship, Rihanna

449
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 1: does know who I am. And she's like, I want

450
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: to work with you, like and she she just had

451
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: this very.

452
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 7: Commanding the short hair, short hair Rihanna.

453
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: She was in Kanye's video for one of those songs

454
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: on Ato Eight's and Heartbreak where she's behind in the car. Yeah,

455
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: I forget what it was, but like that's when def

456
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: Jam was like throwing video release parties for just videos

457
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 1: or whatever. And so good times. I feel like you

458
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 1: are the eye of the storm of what many were

459
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: probably deemed the celebratory period of hip hop, which I

460
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: feel like between ninety seven and two thousand and seven,

461
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: where like every hype Whims video, the rise of the Rock,

462
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: like the ROC like you're the trusted like you're almost

463
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: like Switzerland. You are the trusted epicenter of a lot

464
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: of these artists. And I'm well, first of all, I'm curious,

465
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: like what was your entry into communication as far as

466
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: like radio.

467
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: Oh, just throw that young girl in here. She's the

468
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: only one here who really knows anything about hip hop,

469
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 2: and then.

470
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: Just jump in the pool looking at you again.

471
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 7: So I'm working out.

472
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm seventeen eighteen working at a station, a radio station,

473
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 2: because I was I was a mess with my mother.

474
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 2: I got, you know, getting kicked out of school, and

475
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: my mother was in radio.

476
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 7: She got me an internship. I was interning.

477
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: Your mom used to be on radio.

478
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 7: She wasn't on the air. She she did say she

479
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 7: used to do. She worked in the sales department.

480
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: And when like this, when red Alert was like KISSFM

481
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: read alert, you know, like kiss cards and like legendary

482
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: Red Alert, young red. My mother was like a sales

483
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: rep there. Then she worked then she wounded up becoming

484
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: a music director and program director at CD one to

485
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: one point nine and stuff like that.

486
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: So she was in for a long time. So I

487
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: got an internship.

488
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 7: I was eighteen, So it was a dance station.

489
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: When I first got there, there was no commercial hip

490
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 2: hop radio station.

491
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: So the place that was Hot ninety seven was.

492
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 7: For dance station.

493
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 2: I was you know, they play like you know, C

494
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: and C Music Factory kind of, you know, like that,

495
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 2: and so, but I was a hip hop head like

496
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 2: and so when they when they were slowly transitioning, I

497
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 2: would get asked a lot of questions because I was

498
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: the kid who knew. I was like a nerd, like

499
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 2: a hip hop nerd, and so I was in the

500
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: right place at the right time. Then they brought Flex

501
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: in as going to be the head of this when

502
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: they decided to go hip hop, and then I had

503
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 2: so I learned. I was running the boards for him.

504
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: I was doing everything, getting coffee, doing everything. And then

505
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 2: they were like.

506
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 1: Wait, in my mind, like what the idea of hit

507
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: ninety seven was like always here, So you're saying that

508
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: in the nineties.

509
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 7: There was seven. It was it was dance music.

510
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: It was no There was no commercial hip hop radio

511
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: station in existence in New York City.

512
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 7: Just a show, maybe hip or not.

513
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: You would have to listen to Kiss or b LS

514
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: on the weekends, like you would have to listen to

515
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 2: Red Alert Moll mister Magic. You have to listen on

516
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: the weekends and tape you couldn't. There was no There

517
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: was no twenty four hour day hip hop.

518
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: You're saying like ninety three ninety four is when this

519
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: starts happening or ninety two.

520
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 2: Ninety so bad this years? Well, you were eighteen, so yeah,

521
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: I was eighteen. So you do the math and.

522
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 7: Y'all are setting like standard for the whole country.

523
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, when you're in it and you're

524
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 2: creating something and that in your babies, you're just doing

525
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: it because you love it. There's no understanding of what

526
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: this could be, what it would evolve into, what it

527
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: could grow into. Even when I started doing interviews, there

528
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: was no understanding of one day these interviews could matter

529
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 2: to somebody, or we could grow into something. It was

530
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: just like, oh my god, I love this Wool Tang album.

531
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 2: I can't believe they're here. And then having these these conversations,

532
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: and this is what I miss about those times?

533
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 7: Is there right now?

534
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: I feel like everything is very agenda driven because people

535
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 2: kind of have the codes and they know what works,

536
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 2: and they know what you have to do to get results,

537
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: and you and people understand the business of it.

538
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 7: There was no business of it. We really were operating under.

539
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 2: There was just hard The people were operating under a

540
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: love for the music, for the culture. For we weren't

541
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: even calling it the culture then we did. We weren't

542
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: even organized enough to call it that. We we just

543
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 2: were operating on sheer like love and connection.

544
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 5: And this is such a beautiful circle back because we

545
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 5: just talked at least the Cortez earlier, and I feel

546
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 5: like y'all both hit the scene around the same well

547
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 5: but still, I mean, ninety seven was the first, and

548
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 5: so it's the.

549
00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: Same thing the same time without hot ninety seven. How

550
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: old were you when you How do you become a

551
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: radio personality? Did they put you on like four in

552
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: the morning? First?

553
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: Oh, I was doing everything. I was running the boards.

554
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: I used to run the boards for flex. I was

555
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 2: like I was just I was pushing the buttons and

556
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: running the boards. And I was nice with the you know,

557
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: back then you just have to edit on the real reels.

558
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: I mean nice with that and the tape, I'd have

559
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: cuts on my fingers.

560
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Nothing sexier than a female engineer. Yeah. The amount

561
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: of times where.

562
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: Yo, when I tell you I was nice, I could

563
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: make somebody say something they didn't mean to say with

564
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: the white marker.

565
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 7: And the raised blades and the I was nice.

566
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: I saw the first time I met h Mecca of

567
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: Diggable Planets, she was like, this is why when they

568
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: were recording a blowout come and she was like the tape,

569
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell? I'm in love also, but.

570
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 7: What the hell?

571
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: So I'm there, I'm this young girl who's a hip

572
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: hop nerve who knows everything. And then I can also

573
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: run the boards and be on the radio. And then

574
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: they brought flexing. I'm running his boards so that it

575
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: was like this put this girl on overnights and just

576
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: gives see what she got.

577
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: But don't you have to have the gift of gab

578
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: and know how I had no.

579
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: Gift to gab. No, no, I had no gift to gap.

580
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: I learned gift a gab throughout the process of of

581
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: being on the radio, that I was god awful at

582
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: least two years of being terrible on the radio. For sure,

583
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: Like if I went back and here tapes, I will

584
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 2: be mortified right now. And then over the years they

585
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: weren't always great. I really had the I had the

586
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: privilege of like learning how to be on the air

587
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 2: while I was on the air. What I did have

588
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: going for me. The one thing I will say though,

589
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: is that from the beginning, my intention was always good,

590
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: and I think that that carried me because people wanted

591
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 2: me to you know, people wanted me to win.

592
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 7: The reported me.

593
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: You had a cheer for me, and so that that

594
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: that carried me for a while until I learned actually

595
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: how to do how to.

596
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: Do that right.

597
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 6: Well, we happened to have one of your tapes from your.

598
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait, do you so I know, like

599
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: when you first were on the radio, would you like

600
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: afford yourself.

601
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: Over over modulating smiling?

602
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: Do you remember you like, who was the first person

603
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: you interviewed? I don't.

604
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: People have asked me that, and I don't remember for

605
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: some reason in my mind, and I know it wasn't them,

606
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 2: because time wise, it was like group home or someone

607
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: like that. It was like, I don't know that for

608
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: sure it was them, but those were the early interviews

609
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 2: that I remember at that time.

610
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: So when do you feel like you arrived when in

611
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: my bag? Like when they when they first all right,

612
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: can y'all explain to me? I know there's always a

613
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: morning show? And then I've learned that most in my

614
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: radio experiences of meeting people, I've met more midday mommies

615
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: than it's their formula.

616
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 7: They think they have a formula.

617
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: Right, but it's always like you know, if you.

618
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: Ask Salon Remy Salon REMI will tell you because he

619
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 2: always says this, and I'm like Salom stops saying that

620
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: Salam thinks that every like hip hop ratio station across

621
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: the country hired a Latin.

622
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 7: Girl because because of my success on.

623
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: Hot like well, that was like they placed the Angiebartinas

624
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: that like He's like.

625
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 7: I'm going around the country, I'm seeing the place.

626
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: It's around ninety nine. Like literally, I've met more midday

627
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: mommies after your arrival that I didn't see the first

628
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: rounds of us having the travel radio stations, so.

629
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 7: I didn't realize their way. So but she wasn't the

630
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 7: first mid day one man.

631
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 5: But just that's how you feel because it's the era

632
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 5: in the time, because I.

633
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 7: Think that's radio. People swear that's a whole formula.

634
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 5: We put the woman I've never heard of man.

635
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: But I.

636
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 7: Did nights, which honestly is like a you know, for a.

637
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: Girl, that's the prime spot.

638
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 7: They don't put women in the nights though.

639
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: It depends what you call a prime spot if you're

640
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: a radio person and you're selling ads morning show and

641
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: afternoon drive or the prime spot before a young girl

642
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: who's in the clubs and in the streets and it's

643
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: going to artists listening sessions.

644
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 7: You know.

645
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: Night times is when in New York at that time

646
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: was it was popping, like it was popping.

647
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 7: So that's why I started. I started doing nights and

648
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 7: then and.

649
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 5: It's right before the shows, right, so then you also

650
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 5: got the guests because people don't realize night show n

651
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 5: ten o'clock, so folks was coming on your show because

652
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 5: it's like it's hit Angie before the show.

653
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 7: And then over the years, then they moved me to

654
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 7: afternoon Drive.

655
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: Who do you feel is your most important interview during

656
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: that time? Like I remember like a lot of your

657
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: jay Z interviews.

658
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jay was great for me in my career because

659
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: he gave me an opportunity to kind of like have

660
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: different types of conversations.

661
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: That he wouldn't have with anyone else.

662
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: He was just always so smart and he always had

663
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: such like I don't know, he just always wanted to

664
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: elevate the conversation.

665
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 7: So and he trusted me. So he wasn't doing a

666
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 7: lot of interviews all of it.

667
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 2: I mean, there wasn't a lot of places to go

668
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: for interviews, especially back then. I probably think I probably

669
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: in New York, I had to have done this first one.

670
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: I would imagine, I don't want to say that's wrong.

671
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: Maybe it was stretching Bob. Probably stretching definitely stretching Bob,

672
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: stretching Bob.

673
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

674
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: But we did a lot of them earlier on and

675
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: so those were some of my favorites at the beginning.

676
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: But honestly, it's hard to say, you know that, It's like,

677
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: what's your favorite show?

678
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 7: Do you have a favorite show? Like you can't say that, yeah,

679
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 7: you can for this show.

680
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: I feel like even though Jimmy Jammin.

681
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: No, I mean like a roots show, no, oh no,

682
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: definitely really do you have a favorite roots song?

683
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 7: Right?

684
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: Exactly?

685
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 7: I mean exactly.

686
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't know my favorite until I get it.

687
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 7: I don't know.

688
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: I can't say it.

689
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 5: Joe, I got a question, And have you ever worked

690
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 5: at another radio station besides Power?

691
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: Well, when I was sixteen and I was getting I

692
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: got kicked out of my high school, I got kicked

693
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: out of John Doing in Brooklyn. No, No, I'm sorry, Yes,

694
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: I got I was getting kicked out of John Doing Brooklyn.

695
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: I was sixteen.

696
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 7: My mother sent me to Florida to live with my aunt.

697
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: For two years from sixteen. Wait was it that bad?

698
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: Oh? No, I didn't go to school like a juvenile

699
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 2: delinquent or yeah I was.

700
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 7: My mother was a single mom. She was she worked late.

701
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 7: She I just was free.

702
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: I was a latch key kid. I did whatever I

703
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: wanted to do, like you know everybody on the block.

704
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: Right, What was young Angie Martinez like?

705
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 7: She was?

706
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 2: She thought, I don't she had no really understanding. She

707
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: loved hip hop music. All I would literally watch like

708
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: Beach Street. I was like, I would see the whole

709
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: watch Beach Street and Wild Style and all those movies,

710
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: and and I would I would tape red Alert on

711
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: the weekends, and then I'd spend all week listening to

712
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: the songs so I could memorize them and all the lyrics.

713
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: I was chuck wearing like oh yeah, I was it.

714
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: I know, like lee belts and you know what I mean,

715
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: pants and belts and name belts and bamboo earrings and

716
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: all those things. And then my mom was working and

717
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: I you know, are you start hanging out, you're playing handball,

718
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: you're drinking for all English.

719
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: And we're doing this interview, so asked backwards. Right now,

720
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: let me start. We're born, weren't I don't get there. No,

721
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: it was literally like we normally.

722
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 7: Still over the place here, I mean you.

723
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: Know what tho, No, no, but like normally yes, we

724
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: started the beginning and then work our way up.

725
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 7: Okay, there's a formula.

726
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: You're right. What was your home life? Do you have siblings?

727
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 7: Single mom?

728
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: What burrow?

729
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 5: My?

730
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: Most of my family is from Washington Heights in the Bronx.

731
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: And then my mom was that she was that single

732
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: mom that was like trying to change her life and

733
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: it's going to self help and reading a lot. And

734
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: now I'm your horring ako, and you know she's My mother.

735
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: Was always this episode right now.

736
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: She was always trying to do better. Her dad was,

737
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,239
Speaker 2: you know, battling alcoholism, and it was challenging for her

738
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways growing up, and she tried

739
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: to get out. So, so my whole family's uptown in

740
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: the Bronx. My mother took me. The two of us

741
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: went all the way to the other side of Brooklyn,

742
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: which is like a two hour train ride. So my

743
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: whole family's uptown. Me and my mom is on the

744
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: last stop by Corney Island in Brooklyn.

745
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Oh really, Yeah.

746
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: So we're out there and we're in the little one

747
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: bedroom apartment, me and her. My mother was so dope.

748
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: We had a one bedroom apartment. She let me have

749
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: the bedroom and she.

750
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 7: Would sleep in the living room and like this couch,

751
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 7: just like this terrible green couch.

752
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: Have you been there lately? Yeah, so you've seen the gentrification, like.

753
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy.

754
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's even like luxury motels something.

755
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: Even, by the way, I told you my family's from

756
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: Washington Heights. Even Washington Heights, it's a whole difference. They

757
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: changed that too, one hundred percent different from when I

758
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: grew up.

759
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, for New York.

760
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, so different. So yeah, but you know what,

761
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: my block wasn't bad, it was very I love that

762
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: I grew up in a building where my next door

763
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 2: neighbor was from Trinidad, mother with two daughters over here,

764
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 2: this Asian family, Korean family, so Russian family across a

765
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: super diverse building. And I think that it really create

766
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: created who I am. You know what I'm saying, Like,

767
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: I feel like I can talk to anybody. I feel

768
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: like I can people feel it from you. Yeah, I

769
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: feel like I understand all different types of people. And

770
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: my neighborhood really had a lot to do with that.

771
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: How I grew up in that in that building in Brooklyn.

772
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, so I got I gotta get so Latin

773
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: coret is an extreme no no, no no, But did you

774
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: have earlier expansiones in like New York night life?

775
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: My first club was roseland Biz Marcky was performing. The

776
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: first that I went to a club, I was fifteen.

777
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: I snuck in with a fake ID. There was a

778
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: shootout inside the club the night I went first night

779
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: in the club. The crazy thing about it is that

780
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: after the shooting, everybody got back to partying, like the

781
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: club wasn't closed.

782
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: I will ask you. I will ask you like I

783
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: ask everyone else like and maybe this is me like

784
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: again like living and fear and safety or whatever, But

785
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: why would you go to a spot where the likelihood

786
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: of something about the pop off would happen wouldn't deterry you?

787
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: It all like okay, oh yeah.

788
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: Sure as a sensible adult, but as a fifteen year

789
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: old who can't believe that business marketing, it's in like

790
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: the touch, like distance, like he's right there and he's

791
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 2: performing in the DJ and the scene and I can't

792
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: believe I'm in a club and the music is crazy.

793
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 7: I just was happy to be like I was. It was.

794
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 7: It's crazy I hit the clubs when you were under age.

795
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't until I got older and I actually started

796
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: getting to like a fear. It's crazy because my whole

797
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: career I had to go to clubs.

798
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you, but I have to go

799
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: to the tunnel.

800
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 7: But I, oh, it was at the tunnel regularly.

801
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: What was the tunnel? Even though we I think we

802
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: performed at the at the end of like the era

803
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: of the tunnel. They finally like when the roots get

804
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: invited to the tunnel, then you know, it's over. There

805
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: was always it was like the roots in Eminem. Oh

806
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: wow wow, back when Eminem was exactly.

807
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 7: You were never like in the trenches of the tunnel

808
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 7: at the Big.

809
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: No Not Shook Ones era, this.

810
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 7: Urban legend of tunnel.

811
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: I definitely saw mob deep and all those were my favorite,

812
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: like boot Camp, the tunnel was like all of those

813
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 2: were crazy.

814
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: Like Flex started being nice to us like ninety nine before.

815
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I don't know if I feel him yet.

816
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: You know, it sounds like Flex, right, I don't know

817
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: if I feel him yet. But you know, when he

818
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: wanted us to do the tunnel and I was scared,

819
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: I was like, we don't want to do the tunnel,

820
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: like we no, And it actually wound up being.

821
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 2: The crazy thing is Flex was when I think about

822
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: him now, I was so in awe of how he

823
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: seemed to be like one of those people that we

824
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: were talking about, that he had this confidence about what

825
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: he was doing. He came there, he was like, we're

826
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 2: gonna make this station, We're gonna get this is what

827
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna do.

828
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: He'd be in the.

829
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: Tunnel, he like, I don't know, he just had this.

830
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 2: He made merch, he made fun.

831
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 7: Flex jackets, and we all wore the leather jackets when.

832
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 2: We went by the way, we would go to the

833
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: in matching nothing but flavor folk Master flex jackets. And

834
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: I thought it was I wasn't. I was so in

835
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 2: awe that he even had this type of vision and confidence.

836
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: And I always, you know, I always felt a little unsafe,

837
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 2: but not enough that I would want.

838
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: To leave, like what would have happened, what was a

839
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 1: typical night at the say Latin Quarter at the tunnel

840
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: at the.

841
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 2: Tunnel, well for me already, because I was already running

842
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: around with flex so I was I'd be by.

843
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 7: The booth or I'd be like, you have the safety

844
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 7: of the booth.

845
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: Somewhat, yeah, somewhat, because I did start to develop over

846
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: the years, I did start to develop a little bit

847
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: of phobia of crowds. I started to feel a little

848
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: like I would get a little anxiety when I when

849
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: I couldn't move and I would get stuff.

850
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 7: And so that became a thing for me.

851
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: So save an unknown ill out scratch is waiting like

852
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm certain that when you're going in and out of

853
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: hot ninety seven happened to me, like you know, you

854
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: can you can feel in your peripheral that like, yeah,

855
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: five people over there waiting like for the moment to

856
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: double dutch their way to like, yo, here's our new

857
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: joint whatever, like have you.

858
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 7: Had most of the time.

859
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: And I've really been lucky in the streets of New York,

860
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: Like and I used to run around by myself, like

861
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 2: and even when I was young and like going to spots,

862
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: I had no business by myself pulling up in the

863
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: car by like.

864
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: I willinez of course.

865
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: And I had this like I don't know, I had

866
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: this like false sense of security in this city. And honestly,

867
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: people made me feel that way.

868
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: They made me feel that way.

869
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 7: Like one time I got.

870
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: My car stolen. My car was stolen. I got on

871
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 2: the radio and I was like, Yo, somebody stole my car.

872
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: You know that.

873
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 7: Somebody called the radio station was like, ang, we got you.

874
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 7: I know what it is.

875
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: It'll be downstairs by the time you get out of work.

876
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: And they returned my stolen car. This is how the

877
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: city made me feel, like treated me like, I don't know,

878
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: that's a that's beautiful. That's beautiful. Isn't that amazing? So

879
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: I would walk around the streets and I felt a

880
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: sense of like love. Yeah, I would feel love. I'm

881
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: not stupid, like I wouldn't put myself in bad situations.

882
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: But I did feel maybe a little bit of a

883
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: full beautiful always like safe, and.

884
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: I don't it's amazing because I don't know if I

885
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: would admit that my car, like because I don't want

886
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: the world to know, like, oh, you can easily get

887
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: got quest love like that sort of thing. But but.

888
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: What are you talking about. Anybody in the planet could

889
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: get your car to get stolen. I don't think they

890
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: stole the car because they.

891
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 7: Knew it was mine. It was just randomly stolen.

892
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying Varner Building they liked that, where

893
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: like nah, like fuck it, I'm not gonna let nobody

894
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: know I got got that sort of thing.

895
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: Honestly, I had a couple of times I would leave

896
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: this and where the way High nine seven used to be.

897
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: It was like in the garment district. It was dark

898
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: over there. It was like nobody was there at night,

899
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: and I would leave by myself. I'd be like, it

900
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: wasn't no security, it was just me. I'd get on

901
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: the train two am, take the train like I was

902
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: I was crazy.

903
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: Like oh yes, Andrew Martinez.

904
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 7: You know, yes, absolutely.

905
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 5: That's why I asked you earlier about like that being

906
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 5: your only station, because that kind of love is hard

907
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 5: to leave, right. And I know people tried to get

908
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: you because you you had the mold, you had the

909
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 5: model of what to do. I know people tried to

910
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 5: get you to come to other cities many and many

911
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 5: and many a times. But like, I don't know, you've

912
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 5: never gotten going really from other stations.

913
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: I have to think about it. But nothing that like

914
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: out the gate. I mean when Power first came in,

915
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: there was definitely feelers out for me at the beginning

916
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: of that.

917
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 5: Not even the beat in l A like I just

918
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 5: imagine like LA call like such a New York girl's

919
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

920
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: I didn't even want to be syndicated because I didn't

921
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: want to have to like compromise.

922
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: At what point were you guys being syndicated?

923
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 7: No, I didn't. When people would say, are you interested

924
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 7: in that?

925
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't like what Time Joiner does.

926
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wasn't interested because I know what that means.

927
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: It's this you have to kind of chair more localization,

928
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: you have to Yeah, And I just wasn't.

929
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 7: I was like Yeah, I'm good.

930
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm amazing. You see that as an opportunity, not for me,

931
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: because I got to change who I am.

932
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 7: And that's no judgment.

933
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: Some people can do it, Like if you look at

934
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club does if they were only on in

935
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: New York, they'd be the same show that they are

936
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: all the way. But how I and how I deliver

937
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: I think works for New York.

938
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: So you're saying, all right, who who were those two

939
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: the two guys that were on Hot ninety seven that

940
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: were like they were the originals? Yes, I was the

941
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: original Jesus and Mirror. Right, So you're saying to me

942
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: that as a New Yorker, you could have been like

943
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: crazy or whatever your personality was, But if you're syndicated,

944
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: then you really have to dial that back.

945
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: And also I didn't have that crazy. I was never

946
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: the Hey. First of all, I didn't do a lot

947
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 2: of gossip. I didn't do I wasn't a shock jock.

948
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: I wasn't I didn't have this crazy, over the top personality.

949
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: What I had was a knowledge in my city, an

950
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: authentic perspective about the music. People trusted me, and people

951
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: feel like they know me, And I felt like I

952
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: just didn't want to compromise any of that I wanted to.

953
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 7: I didn't want to. I didn't want to shift that

954
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 7: to like do a radio show that was like, oh,

955
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 7: you know, you got to talk to the.

956
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: Specifically to New York anymore the other opportunities. And then

957
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: once the internet opened up, then why would I ever

958
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: do that when people could watch my interviews on YouTube

959
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: and I could do it the way I do it without.

960
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 7: Having to kind of compromise.

961
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: Was there ever pressure at any point, or in a

962
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: professional or even in a toxic way to.

963
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 6: Do more?

964
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: That's something out of your zone all the time.

965
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 2: I mean, you know how all the time and every

966
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: turn sometimes. I mean, I'm sure there were points in

967
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: my life or my career where you try because you

968
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: want to win, and you try to figure out a

969
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: way you could do a certain thing, especially when people

970
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: start looking at numbers.

971
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 7: And all that stuff. But I don't think at any.

972
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,919
Speaker 1: Point are you numbers good?

973
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 7: I mean most of the time, not always.

974
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: I all know you are, so I would tell you something.

975
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: Though my whole career, people would tell me, oh, you're

976
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 2: the number one, or you have this many. I never

977
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: look at ratings. I don't look at numbers. I don't

978
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: look at ratings because I never wanted it to make

979
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't want it to affect how I

980
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: show up right.

981
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: Right, But they let you They let you know that

982
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: well for ignorance.

983
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: No, they were if we were in trouble, they'd say, hey,

984
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: maybe we need to tighten up on this, and I say, okay, well,

985
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: but the up and down of radio ratings is so

986
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: crazy that I didn't I never wanted to, like fall

987
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: victim to like watching that, and then also FLEX watched

988
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: it so hard I felt like I didn't have to.

989
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I was going to lead back to him. I'm

990
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: not using him specifically as an example, but I guess

991
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: I could use him as an example of which, you know,

992
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: I've heard a few times where people like, yo, man,

993
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: why don't you, you know, give up the keys of

994
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: the kingdom to let someone else younger? And whatever? But

995
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: is there like how I'm not saying doggy dog? Is

996
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: it like how often do you have to look in

997
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: the rear view mirror to figure out like.

998
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 7: Who's on my neck?

999
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? And what is that?

1000
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 7: Anybody on your neck?

1001
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: Someone new comes in, I have to wonder, like, oh,

1002
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: do they want my spot or like.

1003
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: Do you get I think probably a younger me was

1004
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: a little bit more aware of that than me. Now.

1005
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 7: Me now is just like I'm supposed to be where

1006
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 7: I'm supposed to.

1007
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: This is no, it's not that I mean I welcome

1008
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: I'm always trying to get them to I don't know.

1009
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 7: I welcome new energy, young energy, like around. So I

1010
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 7: don't know.

1011
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 2: I don't really think about that, but I think at

1012
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: some points I probably did. But but for short periods

1013
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: of time, you can't let yourself. But you know, whenever

1014
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: you're looking over there, it just alters your delivery, alters

1015
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: your state of mind, your old and I always is

1016
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: aware of that. So even if I look over there

1017
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: for a second, I'm right back here.

1018
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So the world that Steve and I belong to,

1019
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: which is at thirty Rock University. Yeah, the sign of

1020
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: uh oh is when as as a not a staff person,

1021
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: but as a a union guy, like the guy that

1022
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: does a camera, a guy that does the light, like

1023
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: a crew guy. The sign of oh is when they

1024
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: tell you you got to go to the Today Show. So,

1025
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: because because of the way that New York has, like

1026
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: union rules and all those things, you can't like fire

1027
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: someone or as you just put them on the ship job, right,

1028
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't never get fired from like you

1029
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: have to do something extreme, like kind of short of murder.

1030
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: I hate that, by the way, Well yeah.

1031
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 7: Cool for radiople.

1032
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm right. So when you work at thirty, like if

1033
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: you get in on my you're golden, and people fight

1034
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: for the job because it's like you dental, like you

1035
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: get insurance and all that stuff. I didn't that, so,

1036
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: but the thing is is that I don't believe that

1037
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: what you.

1038
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: Know I come from, Like, if you're not if you

1039
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: don't want to be here, or you're not delivering or

1040
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: this is not a good fit, then let's all let's

1041
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 2: keep it moving, right.

1042
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying with him is that the thing

1043
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: is like you gotta go to the Today Show, which

1044
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: means like a damn, I got it. Well, it's because

1045
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: they can't fire you. Being on the Today Show is

1046
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: so inconvenient because now you got to wake up at

1047
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: two in the morning to work at three and all

1048
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: that stuff. I guess they could do that you quit.

1049
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, they'll put you on Sundays at two am.

1050
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: Oh yes, out the passion that's not.

1051
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: Radio though, but if it's over, it's over. Well now,

1052
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: I mean now I'm at iHeart. That's a difference a

1053
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: similar type of machine. It's like a big company. So

1054
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: there's a lot more rules, and over the.

1055
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: Years there's more. So what's the undesirable hour?

1056
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 7: Like, what's the undesirable the undesirable hour?

1057
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine it's like overnights, even though I

1058
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 2: had a good time doing overnights, but I would imagine

1059
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 2: who I don't know, I don't know.

1060
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 7: I don't think that's a thing. Now, I don't think

1061
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 7: that's a thing.

1062
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. So all times are good times.

1063
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 7: And no window is just so different.

1064
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 1: It's just so different asking these questions as the person

1065
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: that clearly doesn't listen to great like this.

1066
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 7: It's not even like a date. Everybody has a day

1067
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 7: part with a rule. Never perse.

1068
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 2: Somebody came to me and they were like, hey, Andrew,

1069
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: were thinking maybe you should do Sundays at midnight. Now

1070
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: that would be great, right. I'd be like, yeah, no,

1071
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: thank you, though this has been good times. We can

1072
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: we can easily just we could just go our ways.

1073
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: Now that that wouldn't work for me. But luckily I'm

1074
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: in a position in life where I can do other

1075
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: things and and I'd be fine.

1076
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: So so for you, what was your wildest like historical

1077
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: moment that you felt was that Hot ninety seven at

1078
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: its peak?

1079
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: Oh jeez, you just reworded the question I didn't want

1080
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: to answer before, which was what was.

1081
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 7: Your favorite What was your biggest interview?

1082
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: You read?

1083
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 7: That's what you're not. That's what an interviewer does. They go,

1084
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 7: they bring it back around if you don't answer it

1085
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 7: the first way. That's what a good interviewer does.

1086
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: Well, I would figure that you would have like one

1087
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: I caught this freestyle, or I met at Kenchrick Lamar

1088
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: for the first time, or.

1089
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: So many But do you have do you have any

1090
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: idea that this was my life for so many years

1091
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: that I did this every day, that every day it

1092
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: was highlight And I'm in New York City at a

1093
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: point where it's Woo Tang and jay Z.

1094
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 7: And Nas and mob Deep and uh you know what

1095
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 7: I mean.

1096
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 2: Just an endless stream artists every single night, coming every day.

1097
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: Assuming that you were at Years Hot, assuming that you

1098
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: were at Summer Jam during the Yes takeover period, like

1099
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't weird to see like Michael Jackson just backstage

1100
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: at Hot ninety seven, like, oh.

1101
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was pretty great. That was pretty great. You

1102
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 7: just got a remind her because I see that so much.

1103
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: That was that was pretty great. Okay, let me think

1104
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 2: a good one for you.

1105
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: Want to I want to campfire story. Damn it, damn you.

1106
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: I'm a nerd. You know I love that about you.

1107
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: It's good.

1108
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you know there's you know, you

1109
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 2: know the Na's battle happened on my show, right? Did

1110
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: you know that that we played records and the whole

1111
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: city voted and that was the moment when that was

1112
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: a huge moment.

1113
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,959
Speaker 1: So what was that? What? No, this is what the two.

1114
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: Records it was, which I thought was unfair, but it

1115
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 2: was really super ugly. Oh okay, it was super ugly

1116
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: versus ether and what happened.

1117
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 7: Yes, we were Wait wait, do you remember.

1118
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 2: How I was saying earlier, like when there was no competition,

1119
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: you could do whatever you want. You want to do

1120
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 2: a twenty minute talk break. Good, where's everybody gonna where's

1121
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: everybody gonna go? They're not gonna go anywhere you can

1122
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: talk for twenty minutes. Now competition has come, right, now

1123
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: there's two hip hop radio stations in the market, so

1124
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: now you have to be a little more careful and

1125
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: tighter otherwise you're giving it. So in the middle of

1126
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: this nas J thing, I don't I'm scared. I don't

1127
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: want any parts of it. Flex is like, if we

1128
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: don't do this here, they're gonna do it down the block.

1129
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 7: Do you want that to have?

1130
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: Like you know, Flex is a beast, right, So he says,

1131
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna do this. I'm gonna start it on my show.

1132
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: We're going to play the two records. People are going

1133
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 2: to vote all the way. We finish the voting your

1134
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 2: show in the afternoon tomorrow.

1135
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 7: Brilliant, brilliant.

1136
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: It actually is kind of brilliant. I was resisting it

1137
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: because I didn't want to get in the middle of

1138
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: that because it's you know, it's NOTS and it's.

1139
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 7: J, and I don't want to. I don't want to

1140
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 7: be in that Switzerland. But you know I was.

1141
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: I was kind of thrown in it, and so it

1142
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: was huge. It was I hadn't nobody could anticipate how big.

1143
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't.

1144
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: Evening we sat there, We sat there, and it was like, honestly,

1145
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: there was a lot of people in the room case

1146
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: a rest and peace, God bless.

1147
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 7: He was in the room, The interns were in the room.

1148
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: There was like anybody who was The other DJs were

1149
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 2: hanging around because this was just a huge thing.

1150
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: So people from the.

1151
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 7: Sales department like were like popping in to see and

1152
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 7: so we're sitting there answer in the in.

1153
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: The board ups like with a tally with like one

1154
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: line two like we're doing this the two phones we're

1155
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: taking votes on.

1156
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: Come on, I mean this story.

1157
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 2: I believe one either one. The crazy thing is Ether one.

1158
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: And Jay was on his way to the station to

1159
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 2: do an interview with me because coincidentally or just what

1160
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: had happened was super ugly.

1161
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 7: People didn't like.

1162
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: Super ugly. Why did he go against super ugly and

1163
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: not think about the current?

1164
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: Got so all this time had passed that the takeover

1165
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 2: dropped Ether and then all of a sudden it was

1166
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: super ugly and everybody was like, oh God, which one

1167
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 2: of these diss records is better?

1168
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: I like the beat to I never liked Yeah, I

1169
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: didn't either. Well, it's like I need to like you

1170
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: need to dance to And I was like, this is

1171
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: one of the things where I got to listen to

1172
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: it and I couldn't humme it now to save my life,

1173
00:52:54,840 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: Like I feel you, Yeah, I definitely remember that anyway.

1174
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: So as I'm announcing and the winner is, I could

1175
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: see my peripheral in the window. I could see Jay

1176
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: walking in. The winner is Nas, and then Jacks.

1177
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 6: In the room.

1178
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 2: As I'm saying it live, I could as I'm saying

1179
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: the winner is, and I see j walking in from

1180
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: the peripheral.

1181
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: My god, he said, door J. And so it was.

1182
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: I hated the I hated the whole moment. I hated

1183
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: is so uncomfortable. And then because I felt so uncomfortable,

1184
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: then you know, Nas took it wrong that I was

1185
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: being so like j.

1186
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: He was like, well what about me?

1187
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 2: So then there was all this weirdness that happened. Luckily,

1188
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: after years, you know, all the years later, we all

1189
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: are everybody anybody's great and I love to see either

1190
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: one of them anywhere, and you know, but in that moment,

1191
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: it was, you know, when you're in it and you're

1192
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 2: younger and you don't really have a perspective of where

1193
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 2: it's gonna land, it all.

1194
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 7: Seems so heavy and serious in the moment. Now, we

1195
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 7: can laughing, is it? But in the moment it felt heavy, man.

1196
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 2: Because the streets are listening, the streets are listening, and

1197
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, oh my god, did.

1198
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 7: I just help ruin Jay's career?

1199
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: Did I was I part of this? Is this going

1200
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: to ruin him? Because in the moment, in the moment,

1201
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing in everybody. You don't know in the.

1202
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: Moment, you think this could be the death of his career.

1203
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: You know, it sounds ridiculous now, but in the moment,

1204
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: you don't know that. And I and it was.

1205
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 7: It was bad from what I recall, I think like

1206
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 7: he came on fine, obviously.

1207
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: But then he come on the air and he apologized. Yeah,

1208
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: I was about to say like it was a humbler,

1209
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: like okay, I've least I'm sorry. And you know, I

1210
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: think he got a lot.

1211
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: Of calls, including from his mother who said that he

1212
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: had crossed the and he so he just wanted to

1213
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, I cross that right there, and is

1214
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: what it is.

1215
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 7: And he tried to say his stay.

1216
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: It just was an awkward time. His timing was the

1217
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: whole thing was just nuts, all right. And then I

1218
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: got mad and me after because because he felt it

1219
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 2: wasn't fair.

1220
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 7: What do you mean it was a fair you won?

1221
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 2: But I understand from his perspective also him sitting home

1222
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: and be like, hey, you should be happier for me,

1223
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 2: Like what's going on here now? In retrospect, I can

1224
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: understand his feelings anyway, So you know, it's all growing pains.

1225
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 7: It's all like growing pains.

1226
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 6: Did Flex apologize to you for putting you in that situation?

1227
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 7: Well, he was like, this was great. We killed it.

1228
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 7: You killed it, But you know it's history.

1229
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 5: You haven't feel the pressure in that way because you

1230
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 5: had these beautiful relationships and long lasting relationships that when

1231
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 5: you are in your job asking questions, have you had

1232
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 5: a moment where they might look at you like why

1233
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 5: are you asking me that?

1234
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 7: You know, like, do you ever have those that kind

1235
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 7: of I.

1236
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: Think a younger me, a younger me, a younger because

1237
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 2: I feel like I've changed a lot. But I think

1238
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: a younger me maybe fell victim to that a couple

1239
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: of times where I'd press because I'm like, the audience

1240
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 2: wants to know. I think me as I got older

1241
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: and I started realizing this really doesn't matter and it's

1242
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: not worth it's not worth me a relationship sacrifice even

1243
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: about the relationship, because it's not about if we don't

1244
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: have a relationship, that's fine, but it's not me worth

1245
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: me disrespecting somebody or making somebody just putting somebody in

1246
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: an awkward spot in my home. Like, I don't like

1247
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: not only that moment, but I don't like what it

1248
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: says to the people listening how we should treat each other.

1249
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: And so I think, you know, you know.

1250
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: What, I think. I just remembered that. Actually, I think

1251
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: your best interviews were with fifty in which even I

1252
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: hate to be this person that's like, but when I

1253
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: first heard my first fifty cent interview, I was like,

1254
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: oh yo, he's.

1255
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 7: He's the best, the best interview.

1256
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate well, I hate he's smart,

1257
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: and I hate that when people like you see so

1258
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: well whatever. Yeah, but I no.

1259
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: No, no, no, there is a there is a moment

1260
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: where you realize this is a this is not he's

1261
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: not just wild.

1262
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: He's he's playing a character.

1263
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: No, he's brilliant, Yeah, yeah he's and he's a marketer

1264
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 2: and he's a marketing kind of genius and he also

1265
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 2: charming and yeah, all of those things. But I will

1266
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 2: tell you because I didn't always love some of the

1267
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: things fifty fifty did, right, So I but I love

1268
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: that I could have interviews with him and like push

1269
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 2: him a little bit.

1270
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: And so you're allowed to challenge if you don't if

1271
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: he disagreed without.

1272
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: Feeling yeah, I mean, if it's an honest conversation, I'm

1273
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: not here to hurt anybody. But if I'm like, hey,

1274
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: a lot of people feel like this, I kind of

1275
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: feel like this too, what do you think about that?

1276
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 7: And it's nice to get it be able to have

1277
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 7: an open conversation like that.

1278
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: But he has said to me over the years a

1279
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: couple of times, He's like, I definitely left your show

1280
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: bleeding a few times.

1281
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: I love your show.

1282
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 7: I was bloody a few times, and I was like,

1283
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 7: oh but please, just let's be friends.

1284
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: Though Okay, I never wanted to be feeling hard.

1285
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: That's the beautiful party, you know, great it because I

1286
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: also had respect for him, so.

1287
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: He knows that. So how hard was it to transition

1288
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: to being an artist? Oh?

1289
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 7: That was tough?

1290
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: Really? Like how so speaking of the whole imposter syndrome

1291
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: thing or whatever.

1292
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 7: Like, yeah, we talked about that was the prime of

1293
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 7: it for me.

1294
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: So how did you get talked into?

1295
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 5: Like?

1296
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: Where is this idea? Come up? Does electric come to you?

1297
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 5: No?

1298
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 7: No, no. I'm at a club.

1299
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 2: I'm hosting a party as the host and I'm talking

1300
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: on the mic and doing a look you know one

1301
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: two one two and karas One is there and Karras

1302
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: One comes up to me after the party and.

1303
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: Says, right, you're what I got next?

1304
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 7: And he said, have you ever been on a record?

1305
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: And you should? You know you got? You got in

1306
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: the mic?

1307
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 7: You sound good. I bet you could kill it. I

1308
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 7: was like, now you're crazy.

1309
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: First of all, it is Karas One. He's one of

1310
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 2: my role models. And then he invites me to the

1311
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: studio and I do Heartbeat and we do Heartbeat with Redman.

1312
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 7: So I'm in.

1313
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: So it's imagine. It's like you're I always say like,

1314
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: imagine you're like a little league baseball player. And Derek

1315
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: Jeter says, come on down and hit a few balls

1316
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: with us at Yankee Stadium and You're like, fuck, So

1317
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: you this was me. I'm in the studio with Karas

1318
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: One and Redman and we do this song and then

1319
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: from there it was like a roller coaster. Then Ladies

1320
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: Night happened, and then the labels start called, and I'm like,

1321
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: what do you mean you want.

1322
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: To do a whole album? This is lazy. I have

1323
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: for them things?

1324
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah right, because them things, And if I could go,

1325
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: and all those records were from the album that came

1326
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: because I did the Kerason and then the Ladies names

1327
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: and they came up.

1328
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 7: Was just single because that.

1329
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: And also if I could go, which more people would

1330
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: know if it wasn't stuck in streaming hiding away.

1331
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: From it, was like I can't we can't find it.

1332
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 5: I know.

1333
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 7: We just literally about a week ago finally got it cleared.

1334
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 7: It'll go out.

1335
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: More, it'll go a little stream soon. We just literally

1336
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 2: like a week ago, just finally clear.

1337
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 7: You gotta do a whole marketing blitz for that now,

1338
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 7: like you gotta know no come, I still oh my god,

1339
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 7: please no.

1340
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 5: No.

1341
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: My not tune set is. It's so funny, it's so weird.

1342
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: It's such a weird thing for me.

1343
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 4: Did that give you I was gonna ask that being ours?

1344
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: Did it give you a new respect for artists?

1345
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: This?

1346
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 7: I told you.

1347
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: I was like a rap nerd, like I would recite

1348
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 2: lyrics were for I could like recite like rock sand

1349
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: Chantey lyrics, MC light lyrics not just them ll cool

1350
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: J lyrics to the t. And so when that happened, Uh,

1351
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 2: it was so much fun. It was like, oh shoot,

1352
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 2: I love this, like I really loved it. But then

1353
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: there was a lot of criticism because people knew me

1354
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: from the radio, and I think I let that get

1355
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: in my head and it made me scared.

1356
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: And so because a conflict.

1357
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 7: No, no, no, just like.

1358
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: Who do you think like imposta syndrome? Why do you

1359
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: think you should be allowed to do that?

1360
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: Are you allowed to spend your own records?

1361
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 7: I didn't, I know, I didn't. I mean you could.

1362
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 7: I guess I could. I mean lots of DJs do.

1363
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: Wait, mistake a lot of spins. So it was I mean,

1364
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Lady Night was definitely a hit.

1365
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: No, if I could go, it was a Lady's Night

1366
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 2: was a hip for sure, and if I could go,

1367
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: it was the top ten record also. But you know

1368
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 2: what would happened if I could go? I mean some

1369
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: of those songs Ladies' Night, like they'd play it on

1370
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: the pop stations with ZE one hundred be playing Ladies Night,

1371
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: and they would cut my verse out.

1372
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: Really what I was going to ask.

1373
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: Other radio stations, even across the country, if they were

1374
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: deemed the competitive market, they would cut out the first.

1375
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 7: Because it's because it's promo. You can't promo.

1376
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, who is Like if you're a radio one with Helen,

1377
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: what's heard, it.

1378
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 7: Doesn't matter if we're talking about the internets. Yeah, they

1379
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 7: they they would cut me, cut me out. So there

1380
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 7: was like some weirdness, but that wasn't the thing. It

1381
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 7: was me would imposter syndrome.

1382
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: And it was honestly, I feel like I stunted my

1383
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 2: own growth because yeah, you didn't. I didn't get I

1384
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: was just starting to, like sometimes I see things and

1385
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: I was like, oh you was about to get better

1386
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: right there, and you and I stunted my own growth

1387
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: because I felt like like imposter a little bit and

1388
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 2: I didn't, And it was just easier for me to

1389
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 2: be on the radio.

1390
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 7: So I just kind of leaned into that take.

1391
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: Your own was awesome my joint too, huh yeah, yeah,

1392
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.

1393
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 7: And it was always so.

1394
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, It was always so because

1395
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 2: I was always so insecure about it that whenever I

1396
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: would see somebody that I'll never forget I was with.

1397
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: I was in LA promote and I was very insecure

1398
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: about it and I saw most most Death at the time,

1399
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: and I saw him from the hotel.

1400
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 7: He was like, Yo, you killed that.

1401
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 2: I really And I was like, so anytime an artist,

1402
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: somebody that I really respected would say something to like that,

1403
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 2: it really like it meant a lot to me, and

1404
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,959
Speaker 2: you too, And then I live one time I saw

1405
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: somewhere he had something nice to say.

1406
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 7: It meant a lot because I was so insecure, and you.

1407
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,919
Speaker 5: Did something I don't think any other radio host has

1408
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 5: done like you made history.

1409
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, how I feel to be nominated for Grammy

1410
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: and imposter syndrome totally?

1411
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: Why am I here? Who put me here? How is

1412
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: this possible? And it was so quick. I went from

1413
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 2: never doing a song too, I'm on the second song,

1414
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm ever on and I'm at the Grand I'm at

1415
01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: the MTV Awards.

1416
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: Say where did you guys? Performed it once? Somewhere? Yeah,

1417
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: so what was that recording session? Like, like, did you

1418
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: It was a lot of.

1419
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 7: It was peacemeal. My first time was by myself. Was

1420
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 7: there already laid, was already there.

1421
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: And I came in and I didn't even honestly, I

1422
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: was so I was so green that I didn't. I

1423
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: wasn't sure, like where the eight bars was supposed to end,

1424
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: Like my bars weren't. I wasn't even counting bars properly,

1425
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: Like I came there with a whole book of rhymes

1426
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 2: because I didn't know how much I was gonna need.

1427
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: So when you're in the studio, is it like everyone

1428
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: get out the studio like, no, no, are you the person?

1429
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

1430
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 2: It was my second time ever doing it in a room,

1431
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: but it's no. And then so but then they had

1432
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: me come back to do ad libs. And when I

1433
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: was there left, I was there with me. Yeah she was,

1434
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: and she was so she was like, oh you like

1435
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: she was just so encouraging, so sweet, and she had

1436
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: already she was left out from TLC, like she was

1437
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 2: already you know, traveled the World International Group and so

1438
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: that was that was encouraging.

1439
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 7: And you know, it was eight bars. It wasn't like

1440
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 7: it was I felt like, Okay, I'm quick in and out.

1441
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 7: This was good.

1442
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: I did it. I just want to know.

1443
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 7: Every single girl said, I'm like, what are Kim saying?

1444
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 7: When she heard it? Was she like, damn girl.

1445
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: I don't remember what Kim said, but she made me

1446
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 2: feel so because you know, we all did the video together.

1447
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 7: The video, we were all there together.

1448
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: We weren't there for the song altogether, but the video

1449
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,479
Speaker 2: we were all there together, and everybody was dope.

1450
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 7: Everybody.

1451
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 2: It was such a beautiful experience. I always say that,

1452
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm really lucky to have had that experience

1453
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: because you know, you're in a room and Mary J.

1454
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 2: Blige and Queen Latifa and Little Kim and the Brat

1455
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: and Missy could you imagine like this?

1456
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: A lot of people there.

1457
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 2: Told me the TLC is there all in one room

1458
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: video and most of our minds.

1459
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 7: Y'all was already friends anyway, So yes, I mean, I.

1460
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,479
Speaker 2: Know a lot of them, but not we hadn't really

1461
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 2: I definitely never worked with any of them.

1462
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: I started rapping.

1463
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 7: It was my second song.

1464
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: I was ever run Wait, did.

1465
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 6: You well, Angie? We have a special surprise tape start.

1466
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,959
Speaker 7: You have the seventy two bars to make the song.

1467
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't know the circumstances when you left the station,

1468
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: but even past radio, like, at what point did you

1469
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: ever feel at any point like okay, I'm I did this,

1470
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: or yeah, just like you know the artists or we're

1471
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: younger than or that sort of thing, like I don't

1472
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: understand this music or that sort of thing. How do

1473
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: you wrestle with because even as a DJ now struggle

1474
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: well fear all right, so I did. I got ambushed

1475
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: with a play for the kids thing, and I've you know,

1476
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: already said like, look, I'm just trying to do like

1477
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: throwback adults, like that sort of thing. I don't want

1478
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: to do no more I do adult. I wanted to write,

1479
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: I want to know who's going to be there. And

1480
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: there's the thing where you know, I had to hand

1481
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 1: out a bunch of scholarships to a bunch of like

1482
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, needy kids, and the kids love you, and

1483
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: you know, I got gassed and I was like, all right,

1484
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: I'll DJ for the kids.

1485
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 6: And then they were looking at you like wow, was

1486
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 6: you playing?

1487
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: No? Well? When I tell you I played litl uzi

1488
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: Vert's joint like I made a fifteen minute mix I've

1489
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 1: never seen. I'm so mad that shit's just an interlude.

1490
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: You know, that song's only one minute, That song's only

1491
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: one minute and twenty song Because even when we got

1492
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: in for SNL. I'm like, yo, y'all realize that this

1493
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: is just a minute in twenty five seconds, like it's

1494
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: an interlude. So I made a fifteen minute version of it,

1495
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: and of course the kids were like crazy, Yeah, Baseline

1496
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: only his voice, drums, his voice, like, I did a

1497
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: billion versions of it. I just stressed it. But you're

1498
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: also a personality, yes, So was there any time where

1499
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: you felt like a disconnect where it's sort of like

1500
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: I think.

1501
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: I had to pivot a little bit because when I say,

1502
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: I started and I was old all about I was

1503
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: a rap nerd, like I knew everybody's lyrics, I knew

1504
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 2: everybody's album cut, I knew, I knew you know what

1505
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: I mean? At some point I had to I pivoted

1506
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: a little bit because I could not keep up.

1507
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 7: No.

1508
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: So, but what you can do is that everybody's human.

1509
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 2: Everybody's having an experience of creating and sharing and being vulnerable.

1510
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: And so I started talking to people a little maybe

1511
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 2: less about their craft.

1512
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 7: And on who they are more. And that to me

1513
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 7: is timeless.

1514
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 6: Right.

1515
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: You know, you can talk to you can talk to

1516
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 2: people about who they are and what they're creating forever.

1517
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're a hardcore New Yorker, so I gotta

1518
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: ask you this question. Yeah, So I think in ninety

1519
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: seven is the first time that I heard ha by

1520
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: Juvenile on Hot ninety seven, which to me was like

1521
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: a pivotal That was a moment. Even when I heard

1522
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: the radio, I was like, whoa like?

1523
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 7: And then we played there them We had to hit

1524
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 7: the remix this right?

1525
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: Well, David, of course, you know, David was like on

1526
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: top of it. But when I heard it, I remember

1527
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: having it. We had a conversation. I feel like we

1528
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: only played the remix. I'll be honest, No, you played

1529
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: the original version first?

1530
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 7: And are you sure?

1531
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm definitely. I remember us having a conversation. I

1532
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: was like, wait, what girls he from? Because in my

1533
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: mind it's like New York and I don't know if

1534
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: his tip if somebody played, uh somebody played for me?

1535
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: Uh Notori stugs by Big And you know I has

1536
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: a notoriously long intro, right, it was like they wanted

1537
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: to test my face, like yo, listen to this, and

1538
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: they put it on and I was like, what was this?

1539
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: Like boone Fuck's army whatever, And so a minute goes in,

1540
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm like what am I listening for? And when I

1541
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: heard Biggie Rhyme, I was like, wait, is this allowed

1542
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: to happen? Like it was? That was such a crucial

1543
01:08:55,479 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: moment and then how happened? And I always wanted to know,

1544
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: from like a New York DJ's perspective, what was the

1545
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: feeling like when suddenly it's like, oh, we gotta, we

1546
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: gotta be more national include.

1547
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 2: But I think I don't know if that moment was

1548
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 2: the moment, because then it was it was still niche.

1549
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: It was still like I don't remember any down South

1550
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:23,879
Speaker 1: song before.

1551
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm just saying it didn't.

1552
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 2: That we have to This was like a one, It's

1553
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 2: a it's a splash of it.

1554
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 7: It was just a little splash.

1555
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 2: We we weren't fully immersed in opening up to everything.

1556
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 2: And when I say we, I'm just saying New York

1557
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: because I didn't. I was never want to pick the music.

1558
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 7: But I think that was it was, you know, that

1559
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 7: was the one record that was kind of cool and

1560
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 7: it was great and it.

1561
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: But eventually there had to be a memo.

1562
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 7: Where it at one point the floodgates open, right.

1563
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: And it's funny because I was on aternity leave, I

1564
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 2: had just had my son, and I was out from

1565
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 2: and I came back to the radio. And by the

1566
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: way I came back to the radio, my first big

1567
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,759
Speaker 2: interview was Jay Z R. Kelly after the concert.

1568
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: Yes, and I remember that.

1569
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 7: Get back to that.

1570
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 4: But we did get back to that.

1571
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: I remember I listened to the interview and it's like

1572
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: it was funny.

1573
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: Thoughts asked me a question, trying to answer the question

1574
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: now about the answer. No, No, I came back from

1575
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 2: maternity and we're playing now this is how this is

1576
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 2: like we're playing laughy taffy that we were playing. I

1577
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: wish I had a list of all the songs that

1578
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: were out at that time, because I feel like.

1579
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 7: There was like seventh how I was saying, like I

1580
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 7: was out.

1581
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: It was dope.

1582
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 7: We liked it, but it was just the one song.

1583
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 2: But when I came back from attorney leave, it was

1584
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 2: like I came back to a different land and it

1585
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: was cool, but it.

1586
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,839
Speaker 7: Felt I felt out. I was like, wait, what's happening?

1587
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 4: All of these was the two thousands, five six, There

1588
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 4: was two thousand, two thousand and one.

1589
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, my son was born in two thousand and one.

1590
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 4: Oh, she said, she said, laughy Tavvy. That was only

1591
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 4: because Lavy Taffy was like, oh five, I.

1592
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 7: Feel like, yeah, I don't think that's right.

1593
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: Around that time, I could.

1594
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 5: Be you couldn't get their play because they were playing

1595
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,520
Speaker 5: Laffy Taffy and you couldn't get the airplace, so you wouldn't.

1596
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 2: By the way, I could be crediting them for a

1597
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: moment that it wasn't that song.

1598
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 7: Now I got that in my head though, y'alls thank you.

1599
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 7: I believe it was that song. I don't know why.

1600
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 7: I'm going to look it up right now.

1601
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: Daffy was two thousand and five? Really was five?

1602
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so then it must not have been laughing Tabby?

1603
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 2: What was two thousand and one too?

1604
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: I mean southern song. It was a bunch of oh

1605
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: maybe was it? Like emotion was starting to become a thing,

1606
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: a juvenile slow motion was a thing.

1607
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 7: Definitely played. I was thinking about it.

1608
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: Was about it in ice cream about it? That was nice.

1609
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, back that ass up. I mean, yeah, you know,

1610
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: but you know that I remember, yo, they did. This

1611
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: was such a genius move where I remember once the

1612
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: Spice Girl's label just purchased commercial time on Hot ninety

1613
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 1: seven to play wanna be like they purchased dude. It

1614
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: was the most shocking thing ever. Like you ever read

1615
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: a magazine Sometimes you're like, wait, what the hell is

1616
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: this doing there? And you see at the very fine

1617
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: print that's out like special advertisement, like it's not a

1618
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:32,520
Speaker 1: part of my but try to trick you to be like, right,

1619
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: the Spice Girls at one point purchased like two minutes

1620
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:41,799
Speaker 1: and thirty seconds of commercial time. That's crazy, no, Because

1621
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: I would be in a car with a bunch of

1622
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: people and we would have these hip hop debates or whatever,

1623
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: and I was like, Yo, they're playing the Spice Girls

1624
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 1: on Hot ninety seven right now. But then I heard,

1625
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, like commercial, you know, like it.

1626
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 7: Was the smart tactic at the time.

1627
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: It was, but at the time where I thought it

1628
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: was like them playing it for real and then but

1629
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 1: I always wanted to know just how did you guys

1630
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: feel about that paradigm shift of south friend of shit?

1631
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 1: Not only that, but now you got to bring them

1632
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: on the air and talk to them, and some of

1633
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: them have chips on their shoulders and some.

1634
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 7: Of them did.

1635
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 2: But I always look at like when I when I

1636
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: was saying how I make a pivot to like really

1637
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: talking about people who they are and where they're from.

1638
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 2: To me, that opens up a I don't know, that's

1639
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 2: what you love about hip hop? Right even when we start,

1640
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 2: even when the West Coast was first happened, it was

1641
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 2: the first time I learned about West Coast living was

1642
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 2: I never went to California. I didn't know what that

1643
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: felt like until we started to be able to interview

1644
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: artists that were from the West Coast because the West

1645
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 2: Coast was pop But I kind of looked at the

1646
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: South kind of blowing up like that as an opportunity

1647
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: to learn about what was happening there too, because I

1648
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 2: didn't really I'd never really spent time in the South.

1649
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 2: I didn't even I didn't know anything about the.

1650
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 7: Lifestyle of it.

1651
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 2: So when those artists started flooding in and maybe I

1652
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: wasn't as familiar with them.

1653
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: You're a better person than I was, exactly. I'm I'm

1654
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 1: minded because I feel.

1655
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 2: Like I felt a little disconnected because I didn't know

1656
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: the roots of maybe where some of them came from,

1657
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: which all the New York artists, I knew the roots

1658
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,799
Speaker 2: of that. So I felt a little disconnected in that sense.

1659
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 7: But as you get to talk to people.

1660
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 2: People are people, right, everybody has a story to tell,

1661
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 2: and so I kind of just looked at it like that,

1662
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 2: like an opportunity. I was never somebody who felt like, oh,

1663
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 2: why is I mean to me? That's why to me,

1664
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 2: we're always evolving. We should always be evolving. I was

1665
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 2: always open minded to that, and some of the records

1666
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,959
Speaker 2: was fired, like so I don't.

1667
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: Know, well in retrospect now, like I then, well I'll

1668
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: be revisioned. It's like, yeah, I always played this, but

1669
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 1: you know.

1670
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 7: I could maybe I could be Maybe that's grown up

1671
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 7: me talking.

1672
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 2: And if you if you were to rewind the time machine,

1673
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 2: maybe there was a guess what?

1674
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: All right? So where was the story you had about

1675
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: that interview? It was, yeah, it was the night it

1676
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: was after it was after the night with jay Z.

1677
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: R Kelly. It was the last night that he was on.

1678
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 1: He felt like somebody was trying assassinate it.

1679
01:14:58,680 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 7: Were you at the concert?

1680
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:08,679
Speaker 1: I was at my house in North Carolina, account never

1681
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: in R Kelly's presence ever interview. I think I heard

1682
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: the interview.

1683
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 7: Fascinating I heard the interview.

1684
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 4: I remember because first it was like jay Z was on,

1685
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 4: but then like I think R Kelly came. I forgot

1686
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 4: the order, but anyway, but R Kelly he was talking

1687
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 4: about the night and he was on stage, and it

1688
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 4: was just oh my god, it was it was it.

1689
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: Was just YouTube and I hear this in the depths

1690
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 1: of like the internet, all these tapes.

1691
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: Just digitized them a couple of years because you know

1692
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: eventually you're gonna have to have like Congress, you want

1693
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 2: to direct my documentary, I'm done.

1694
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 4: I heard we were listening to it on the and

1695
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 4: it was yeah, you know, I came on stage and

1696
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 4: I'm just I saw a guy.

1697
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying appreciation woke up like it was him.

1698
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 4: It was like talking about he came on stay. I

1699
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 4: guess he said it was like whatever.

1700
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: I can't remember. He was talking about how he got

1701
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 1: sprayed with Mason ship Mason I was on tour O

1702
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: and okay, I mean on the reason because yeah, hey,

1703
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: I was.

1704
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 4: Actually I was just it was my I mean, I've

1705
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 4: been on stage I rock, you know for so many years.

1706
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: I you know, in my Lightning.

1707
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 4: Man, and I was like my light my lightning and

1708
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, he's saying lighting man, but like

1709
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 4: it sounded like but dude, it was just it was.

1710
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 1: It sounded like he sounded bad, shipp insane. It was crazy.

1711
01:16:58,240 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: It was the crazy.

1712
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 7: It wasn't even my shift.

1713
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: I was.

1714
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 2: I went to the radio station from the show because

1715
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 2: I was at the show when the whole thing unraveled.

1716
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1717
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 2: And then I was getting my parking lot get in

1718
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 2: my car and Mike Michael Kais had called me.

1719
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 7: It was like Jay wants to get.

1720
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: On the radio.

1721
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well he can come by my

1722
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: show tomorrow afternoon. He was like, no, no, no, he

1723
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 2: wants to go on.

1724
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 7: The radio right now and we'll only talk to you,

1725
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 7: and he wants to.

1726
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: Talk to you.

1727
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 2: So I had to call the program take off. I

1728
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 2: think it was Big Dennis was on at that time.

1729
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 2: I remember who was on.

1730
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 7: But they had to get off so I could get

1731
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 7: on because.

1732
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: Like people do some sort of way like he will

1733
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: only talk to else.

1734
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I went up there and I was like, Okay.

1735
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 2: The funny thing is I was at the parking lot,

1736
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 2: but right outside of Manster Square Garden. It was like

1737
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 2: I was waiting in line because I didn't want to

1738
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 2: be like a jerk and like run to the front.

1739
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: So I'm like waiting in line for my car. But

1740
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 2: then when I got the call from Kaias, I was like,

1741
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: jay Z wants to get on the radio. They were like,

1742
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 2: let her go, let her go, because only in the

1743
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 2: line had just come out the concert.

1744
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: They knew what happened. Jay Z's about to get on

1745
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: the radio.

1746
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 7: Let edg you get her car.

1747
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 1: So they let me go. What happened and don't know like, oh, well,

1748
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: a concert went down, both worlds.

1749
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,480
Speaker 7: In the best of both worlds.

1750
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: And then the lights go out.

1751
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 7: Have it consued?

1752
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 2: Allegedly, Peppers break R Kelly backstage and then and then R.

1753
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 2: Kelly left and Jay Jay had to finish the rest

1754
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 2: of the show at Madison Square Garden by himself, and

1755
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:24,560
Speaker 2: he called.

1756
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 7: On people quickly to take Mary.

1757
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 2: Mary came out, Usher came out. People kind of came

1758
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 2: to rescue Jay.

1759
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: Lenny told me, okay, so Lenny rescue Jay. You know

1760
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1761
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 7: He needed a show.

1762
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: I remember Kodak. Lenny actually said that he had to

1763
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 1: run up and down the aisles and see like people, Yeah, literally,

1764
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: you know, come up and do your joint or whatever.

1765
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, to pack us.

1766
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 2: He was playing Usher songs from his phone and then

1767
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: Usher came and performed, and because peck Us worked at

1768
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: Arista at the time, right or right?

1769
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 7: Yeah? Is that right Arista?

1770
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so bad at like those little and you're

1771
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: telling me that, like, so the whole So everybody in

1772
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 2: the concert knew what was happening. So then when we left,

1773
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:03,959
Speaker 2: we were like, yo, that was crazy.

1774
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 7: What happened? We don't know.

1775
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 2: And then from there it was Jay wants to go

1776
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 2: on the radio and talk about it. So now anybody

1777
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 2: who was at the concert is listening. And then I

1778
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: don't know how everybody would hear it because everybody.

1779
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 4: A somebody posted at the time. Honestly, I feel like

1780
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 4: somebody posted it okay player, right no, no, no, no, no,

1781
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 4: so yeah, somebody.

1782
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 7: From I never knew how everybody heard it.

1783
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody up in New York.

1784
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 4: And I can't remember what who it was or you

1785
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 4: know what the okay player was, but somebody in New York.

1786
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 4: It might have been a thirty thirty but I can't

1787
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 4: remember it. Take somehow had taken the stream or had

1788
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 4: recorded you on the radio, and then like they posted

1789
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 4: a link for us to check on okay player, and

1790
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 4: so that was how we heard the interview.

1791
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 7: So Jay cames up to tell his what happened.

1792
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: He was so frustrated and he was like, look, you

1793
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: know this guy, we've had problems.

1794
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: We called it. This guy like discussed. He was very.

1795
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 2: Frustrated, and then he was We got a call from

1796
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 2: from Tracy was programm director at the time. She was like, listen,

1797
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 2: we have to be fair. R Kelly called he wants

1798
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 2: to come up and tell his side of the story too.

1799
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 7: The middle of the night.

1800
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 2: So I say, I tell Jay R Kelly wants to

1801
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: come up, because like, that's fine, you could talk to him.

1802
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 7: I'm almost done anyway, I'm about to leave. Jay leaves.

1803
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 2: R Kelly shows up five ten minutes later, I could

1804
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: be it could have been twenty.

1805
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1806
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 7: It was a few minutes later. It's all live on

1807
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 7: the radio.

1808
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 4: A moment in my show and his eyes I say,

1809
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 4: calling Tyrone and the audience say, but but you wouldn't

1810
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 4: know that you're not a fan.

1811
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: This is on the air, like we'll listen, yo yo

1812
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: bro right. In fact, it was I remember this now.

1813
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: It was I was over.

1814
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 4: I went to ninth brid ninth. I feel like I

1815
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 4: don't know what's christis with maybe a homie Mike.

1816
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 1: Bird was with it. But anyway, crib and we're listening.

1817
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 4: I had no idea, like like what I don't.

1818
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 2: I do know that after that, people will come up

1819
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 2: to me from different places and tell me. And I

1820
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 2: don't always curious how did everybody because it wasn't that.

1821
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 7: Wasn't like you know what I mean.

1822
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: So player was the social media. It was like we

1823
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: we are definitely black Twitter, yeah for sure, like we

1824
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 1: started black Twitter. Yeah.

1825
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 2: So then so then that happened and R Kelly showed

1826
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 2: up and his eyes were all red from the pepper sprays.

1827
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: Still it just come from.

1828
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he I don't I could be wrong,

1829
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 2: but I think he went to the hospital first for

1830
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 2: them to like look at his eyes, and then he

1831
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: came to the station.

1832
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 7: And so this was the middle of the night. Now

1833
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:30,640
Speaker 7: I'm interview and R Kelly in the middle of the night.

1834
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 7: It was it was nuts and remind us I'm sorry

1835
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 7: because mirror wasn't there.

1836
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 5: He doesn't know what what R Kelly said.

1837
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: He I mean, listen, I just remember he was. R

1838
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 1: Kelly was very he.

1839
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,759
Speaker 7: Said somebody was in the crowd who had a gun.

1840
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 4: I will say, Angie, you were always professional, but like

1841
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 4: you handled that interview really well because we were literally

1842
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 4: on the other side listens like yo, this nigga pre

1843
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 4: Gail King like yo, We were like, yo, he sounds crazy,

1844
01:21:58,120 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 4: but yeah he was somebody you talked about.

1845
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: You saw some with a gun and yeah it was was.

1846
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 2: J side of the story was he was uncomfortable because

1847
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,800
Speaker 2: Jay was killing it every night and R Kelly was

1848
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: in his feeling, so he wanted to leave.

1849
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 7: He just wanted to leave. He didn't want to finish.

1850
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 7: That was Jay's story.

1851
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 2: R Kelly's story was he wanted to leave because it

1852
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 2: felt he was threatened because somebody was in the audience

1853
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 2: with a gun and he saw it from the stage

1854
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 2: and he wanted to leave.

1855
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: But he said it like R Kelly, not out there, okay,

1856
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: freaking I saw. I'm not saying what it was like.

1857
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, you saw somebody and you asked

1858
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 4: you was like, so he had a gun. I'm not

1859
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 4: saying what he had or what he didn't have. I'm

1860
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 4: saying I saw a guy. I saw a guy.

1861
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: It was. It was very much like the the to

1862
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: like when you say teenage how we talk.

1863
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 4: It was the precursor to that like it was you

1864
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But yeah, but he saw a guy.

1865
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 2: The wild thing is, I would love to know put

1866
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 2: this in the air. Somebody was in the room with R.

1867
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 2: Kelly that night, and and this is early. I didn't

1868
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 2: use the video tape my interviews back then, never so, but.

1869
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 7: Somebody was with R. Kelly who had like a big

1870
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 7: old camcorder.

1871
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised.

1872
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:07,759
Speaker 7: Somewhere.

1873
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 2: Wow, hey guys, thanks for having me. It's really fun

1874
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 2: to be here on the podcast. My point is that

1875
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 2: there's a video probably somewhere that interview. Yeah, somewhere, somebody

1876
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 2: has it. Somewhere in somebody's basement. There's a video of

1877
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: that interview.

1878
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: It was great. Yeah, thanks, That's probably most legendary interview.

1879
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 7: There's other ones.

1880
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: Was smoking and no one.

1881
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,720
Speaker 5: I'm smoking and saying that wasn't her. It's been so

1882
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 5: many I'm with her.

1883
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying it just for me. That

1884
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: was the one for me because you.

1885
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 7: Have how about the locks and the locks fighting for.

1886
01:23:54,760 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 2: The publishing that happened on my show.

1887
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 7: And then puff the next day with receipts and you.

1888
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: Still understand this was very much.

1889
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 4: I mean, I signed like before we like our little

1890
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 4: brothers start going and stuff. So I would just be

1891
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 4: like hot ninety seven and all that. That would just

1892
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 4: be our window into kind of what New York was,

1893
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 4: and we was just I remember me just being at

1894
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 4: home in the South, just looking like yo, all these

1895
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 4: niggas are crazy, Like, no, I don't need to do this.

1896
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: So I was just come when I came to New York.

1897
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 4: I just come to New York, do my shows whatever,

1898
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 4: like see my people whatever, get my money, and I

1899
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 4: leave because I'm just like, dude, this I listened to

1900
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 4: I list.

1901
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 1: None of these niggas sound happy.

1902
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 7: So you have I was waiting for your No.

1903
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 8: No, I have a question about since we're talking about

1904
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 8: your archives and you said your digitized them, do you

1905
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 8: of any kind of plan of how to release those somehow.

1906
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 7: I'm trying to figure that out. I have I have

1907
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 7: so many that I don't really know.

1908
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 2: I feel like it's damn. It's also like, no, it's

1909
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 2: not about waiting for the offer. I really because I

1910
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 2: need a lot of money on the table. My whole career,

1911
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 2: I've left a lot of money on the table. I

1912
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 2: really operate from a place where I want to until

1913
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 2: I can figure out a way to do it. That is,

1914
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 2: it honors it and it's interesting and it's different. It's

1915
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 2: dope like I do it doesn't need to I don't

1916
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 2: need to do something just to do it.

1917
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 1: I assure you as as a person that works in

1918
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: that world. To you now, it's just like, yeah, I

1919
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 1: got my radio shows, and ten years it'll be like

1920
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: oh back in the day, I got no no no.

1921
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: But I swear to God, like your Oscar future lot

1922
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: like forty years from now, like when you when you're

1923
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: seventy seventy five whatever, that will be like a piece

1924
01:25:56,360 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: of history that if told right, where did that come from?

1925
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 6: Man?

1926
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: I got to pass the rasp on.

1927
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 6: Totally clips of the heart.

1928
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: No, if if told correctly, like please, I beg of you,

1929
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: because even now I will at what point were you

1930
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 1: fine with your radio journey? And how hard was it

1931
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 1: to pivot into TV personality and more specifically with up

1932
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: closing person like with.

1933
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: I think that's the thing that's kept me in radio

1934
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 2: so long is that I always, at different points in

1935
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 2: my career, played around something else just to keep the

1936
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 2: creative juices going, whether it was music or whether it

1937
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 2: was you know, little cameos and movies or you know,

1938
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: I wrote a book.

1939
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 7: I am.

1940
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 2: I think I always the radio became almost like just

1941
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,799
Speaker 2: part of who I was, and it was just not easy,

1942
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 2: but it's just it's just a fabric of what I do.

1943
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 7: But I needed to stay.

1944
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: Creatively, you know, challenged, and so that's kind of why

1945
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 2: I would venture off and do different things here and there.

1946
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 1: And in your vision board or just in your life,

1947
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: do you ever foresee you becoming the station owner or

1948
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:25,600
Speaker 1: he always wants to do that.

1949
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have any desire to.

1950
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: It's not my heart.

1951
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 7: It's not where my heart is. My heart is in storytelling.

1952
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 2: My heart is not running a business to help a

1953
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 2: media company, like it's not where my heart is. My

1954
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 2: heart is in storytelling. And so whether it be during

1955
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 2: an interview on the radio or just getting on the

1956
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:47,959
Speaker 2: radio and talking.

1957
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 7: About something that I feel like is storytelling or.

1958
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 2: Creating or writing or like writing is something writing for

1959
01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 2: me is probably like what like for you, like how

1960
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,440
Speaker 2: you kind of finally.

1961
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 7: Have got com about it?

1962
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: You know, I wrote that book, and I always looked

1963
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 2: for other people to help me because I thought I

1964
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 2: wasn't a writer enough. And then as I would go

1965
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 2: try to hire people, I realized, actually I could. I'm

1966
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 2: better at this part of the story than me.

1967
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: And so what was the hardest part about writing the

1968
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 1: book for you?

1969
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 2: Well, all of it, because writing all of those pages,

1970
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 2: and it took me like years to do that. And

1971
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 2: I did have some help, you know, they brought I

1972
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 2: learned a lot about storytelling from this woman named mem Reavis.

1973
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 2: But she also taught me that I was actually a

1974
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 2: great writer. She gave me that confidence. So my book

1975
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: was pretty much done.

1976
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 7: See, it's crazy that you didn't realize that you're the combination.

1977
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 7: It's different. It's different.

1978
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: And thinking you could write a few bars versus writing

1979
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 2: a story and writing like or.

1980
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 5: Being a storyteller. Is what I'm saying, is saying that

1981
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 5: you are a storyteller. And I think, isn't that. So

1982
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 5: here's two examples. So number one, the book I tried

1983
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 5: to get all these writers, I didn't like it. I

1984
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 5: do it myself, but I had I still didn't have

1985
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 5: I still didn't feel it books Best New York Times

1986
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 5: be so I still feel it was.

1987
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you're okay, thank you, Oh thank you?

1988
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 1: Something? Can I get that something?

1989
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 7: Oh?

1990
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Speaker 2: Jeez, No, but then I probably felt like you after

1991
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: you ask, I still don't feel like a real writer.

1992
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 7: I feel like, oh, that was my memoir. Of course,

1993
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:16,520
Speaker 7: that was easy.

1994
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 2: And then I say, I have this other idea, and

1995
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get a script done, and I go

1996
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 2: to mad people and I go to stuff and I

1997
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 2: and so I start writing it by myself during COVID

1998
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 2: because I'm home, and why not, who cares?

1999
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 7: I wrote like two scripts while I started.

2000
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 2: During COVID, and so now I'm well, both of them

2001
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 2: are done. One of them needs a little tweaking. Well,

2002
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 2: it's not about me, no, but it is from my lens.

2003
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 2: Anything I do is gonna be from my lens because

2004
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 2: it is what it is, right. But you know, I'm

2005
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 2: starting to feel I'm starting to get in my bag

2006
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 2: with it. I'm starting to feel like confident about my

2007
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 2: storytelling ability as a writer and also as a creator.

2008
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 2: And so I think it's gonna be interesting to see

2009
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 2: where the next couple of years bring me. I've never

2010
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 2: operated with this level of confidence or just clarity.

2011
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 7: Through my whole career.

2012
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 4: When I was asking about the hard parts of writing

2013
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:13,720
Speaker 4: the book, I meant more so emotionally, like were there

2014
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 4: any parts of your life that were hard.

2015
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 7: Yeah's scary to tell your whole story.

2016
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 2: Scary to say your father was on drugs and you

2017
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 2: ain't seen him since you're ten, or you dated this

2018
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 2: person and that was terrible for you and your heart broke.

2019
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 2: It's scary to tell family things and personal things.

2020
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 7: But I did.

2021
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: I wrote everything down, and I told myself when it's over,

2022
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 2: I'll take out.

2023
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 7: Anything that I don't want to share. But once you

2024
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 7: get it all out, you realize it's just my story.

2025
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:39,759
Speaker 7: It's okay.

2026
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 2: It's so scary to share, you know what I mean.

2027
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 2: But then once this hour, you feel good. I don't know,

2028
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 2: it's just you could be yourself more in a weird way.

2029
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 1: Does your son see you as like mom? Or does

2030
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 1: he like know the lineage of the nah? He does?

2031
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,640
Speaker 7: He respects it. He definitely respects it. I think he

2032
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 7: likes to.

2033
01:30:56,240 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 2: See the way people kind of react entertainment. No, my

2034
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 2: son plays ball, he plays. He wants to be in

2035
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,879
Speaker 2: sports business. He's studying sports management, sports business.

2036
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 7: He's a good kid.

2037
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 1: I have.

2038
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 7: He's about to be twenty and June he'll be twenty. Yeah,

2039
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 7: he's he's a big boy. Remember is like, yeah, that's

2040
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 7: what made me think of that.

2041
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 1: Now I'm like, I knew you when you're playing chess

2042
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 1: at the age of six, and now you might be

2043
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 1: managing me and like a couple.

2044
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 7: We remember when Angel's pregnant.

2045
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 2: That's why I'm like, so I have him, So he's

2046
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 2: twenty and then I have a bonus, my bonus son

2047
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 2: who lives with me. He's seventeen Christian. He's doing amazing too.

2048
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 2: And I don't know they. I think that they like,

2049
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 2: I think that they respect my history and my career,

2050
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 2: but I don't think neither one of them are like

2051
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 2: really they don't care about celebrity doesn't really impress them much.

2052
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: I love that about gen Z.

2053
01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 2: They're not like, yeah, they like people who they just

2054
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 2: like people, but they're not really you know, like, hey,

2055
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 2: you want to go over to such and such a

2056
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 2: self man, No, I'm okay, rather be over here doing this.

2057
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 1: So and you're sure that you don't want to just

2058
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: own the radio station?

2059
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 7: Why would I want to do that in twenty twenty three?

2060
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 7: Like what why would I want to?

2061
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 1: Wait?

2062
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 7: Wait, wait, thank you people, that's.

2063
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: A listen to me.

2064
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 7: How many summers do we have left?

2065
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 1: Right?

2066
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 6: Right?

2067
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 1: The sky's the limit.

2068
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 2: No, no, you're not. Most people don't live to two hundred, right,

2069
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 2: so you have a limited amount of summers left here.

2070
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Okay, and this.

2071
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 2: Life and this body stress and is being a radio

2072
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 2: station owner? How I want to live out the next

2073
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 2: twenty thirty, forty whatever.

2074
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 7: I'm lucky enough to.

2075
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: Get the radio station owner. But I would think that.

2076
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 2: You can't do that part time. That's your life, that

2077
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 2: becomes your life. Then that's not I'm not willing to

2078
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: do that with my life.

2079
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out a way to rubbert, like

2080
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 1: to stop micromanaging. Like I'm in the game now where

2081
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 1: like establishing like a production breaking mortar thing, and.

2082
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 7: I haven't learned how to do that.

2083
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 1: Eventually I'll get to a place where I can rubber

2084
01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: stamp ship and micro Now. Yeah, Tika and I are

2085
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: like micromanaging everything. But one day I can build an

2086
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 1: empire and let it run by itself, and then I

2087
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 1: could truly do nothing. When is that gonna happen? Right?

2088
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 1: It's not like literally.

2089
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 7: Far I don't know that.

2090
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 1: It's your fifties, trust me, I got this. What do

2091
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 1: you think? I'm just talking in circles on the show.

2092
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,759
Speaker 2: But don't you think it's you that has the gift?

2093
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 2: That's that is the nuances of that, isn't it you?

2094
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to walk away. So what I'm trying

2095
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: to do is figure out a way to keep this

2096
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: running and I don't have to be here. Luck with that.

2097
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:03,080
Speaker 7: I hope you do. I wish you well.

2098
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: I just don't mother other once family, and to be president.

2099
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 7: You might have to let go of some things to

2100
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 7: have that balance.

2101
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 1: There is an exit plan because you cannot survive in

2102
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: the level of stress that I'm living in now. I'm

2103
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm taking this on now so that when I am

2104
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:24,640
Speaker 1: sixties seventy eighty ninety, I don't have to do this anymore.

2105
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 7: And there's an operation running. Yeah.

2106
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm determined to be the first black professional that

2107
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 1: actually retired. You remember, like Jay was like, yeah, you know,

2108
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm retired after my second album or whatever, like the

2109
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 1: don't entire me. I mean, I'm not gonna retire.

2110
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 7: Killing it over here, y'all.

2111
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:46,719
Speaker 1: I thank you, Thank you, guys.

2112
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 7: This is fun.

2113
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: This is our first real real conversation as you're a coerson.

2114
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean we've had niceties and pleasantry. I've

2115
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: been on your show. But it's also like to promote

2116
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,959
Speaker 1: my product. But I feel like I got.

2117
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 6: To know you bro, your team of Supreme over here

2118
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 6: is comatose.

2119
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 2: And I get invited to a game night because you

2120
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 2: invited me one time and I couldn't go. And I

2121
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 2: feel like because I couldn't go that one time, I

2122
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 2: have never been invited again.

2123
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I will invite you the game night.

2124
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 2: So I'm a little aggressive. But I've gotten better as

2125
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 2: I've gotten older. I know how to I know how

2126
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 2: to behave well.

2127
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 1: I also I don't play the game anymore because I

2128
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: had to host it.

2129
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 7: Oh that's fun.

2130
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more fun because if I'm in the game

2131
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: games you play? Sorry, what do we play? Well, A

2132
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,760
Speaker 1: lot of people in their their pandemic pivot haven't been

2133
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 1: a game. So I have like just a room full

2134
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 1: of like unused games that they want my opinion, like questions.

2135
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: Can I.

2136
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,799
Speaker 2: You know I have on my bucket list in life?

2137
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:46,400
Speaker 2: What is to host the game show?

2138
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: That? Really? I feel you do you know how much fun?

2139
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 7: Because that to me will be so much fun every.

2140
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,920
Speaker 1: To be like I got you you got one for me?

2141
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 1: Did you did you watch?

2142
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 7: First of all, I'm offended that was.

2143
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 4: A bold ask questions as that game show, but you know,

2144
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 4: I mean that show has been on.

2145
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: Yes, she said, you don't know what motherfucker y. Yes,

2146
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 1: I want from Popeye exactly, come on exactly, buddy. Yeah,

2147
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: and I thank you so much for going on the

2148
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 1: show on behalf of Sugar Steve and PEPERI. Did he

2149
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 1: go out for more cigarettes?

2150
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 5: No?

2151
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 1: No, no, he'll come back.

2152
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:39,800
Speaker 6: He's unpaid. How can you how could you ask for why?

2153
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 1: Three? Frantico and uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.

2154
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 4: All right, I apologize, yes as a fellow, like hearing

2155
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 4: did you talk about the way you move and the

2156
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 4: way you choose, like it really resonates with me so

2157
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,560
Speaker 4: like much expecting love just for what you do, for

2158
01:36:57,680 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 4: the way you're doing, like staying true to yourself and me,

2159
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 4: and like, nah, I don't want to do that. That

2160
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:03,280
Speaker 4: ain't for you know, you said, I turned down a

2161
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 4: lot of money in.

2162
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 2: This game to say, but also proud to say, all right, we're.

2163
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 1: Gonna end the way that we started, and we're all

2164
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:14,480
Speaker 1: gonna all live in our integrity. We're not gonna self sabotage,

2165
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: We're not gonna dismiss our dreams. How are we gonna breathe?

2166
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 7: How are we gonna end breathing?

2167
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: Or we've been breathing. Actually, I'm cold as ship. I

2168
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 1: gotta get out of this room myself. Yes, thank you,

2169
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,719
Speaker 1: and uh Supreme, We'll see all next week. Thank you.

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01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 6: We's love.

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01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:42,839
Speaker 1: Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. For more podcasts

2172
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

2173
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.