WEBVTT - Conversations About Affirmative Action 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.280 M Watch up and welcome back to another episode and 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.240 no Sellers podcast with your host not funk that with 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:17.000 your low glasses Malone. In the United Kingdom, hiding someone 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:21.840 simply because of their protective group status without regard to 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:26.720 their performance is illegal. However, the law in the United 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:30.880 Kingdom does allow for membership and a protected and disadvantaged 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:34.720 group to be considered in hiring and promotion when the 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:39.240 group is underrepresented in a given area if the candidates 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:42.440 are equal of merit. Excuse me, if the candidates are 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.160 of equal merit, in which case membership and a disadvantag 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:52.080 group can become a tiebreaker. So that's our affirmative action 0:00:52.120 --> 0:01:02.560 works itself on the UK. That ship so h they're 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:08.200 saying they can't just give what Chris Rock said? What 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.560 did Chris Rock say? Chris Rock said, you should just 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.440 be able to uh as I don't want it just 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.800 to hide and paraphrasing something on the lives of like, 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.760 I don't you shouldn't be able to hire any old 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:21.760 person just because they're black. But if it's a but, 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.959 if if it's close, it should it should go to 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:28.520 us as meaning you sure I was speaking as Chris Rock, 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:33.520 but you're you're Are you close enough? You're close enough? 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.200 You don't have it that great? You know what? I 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.080 think um to a certain exting g I think that 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:45.040 affirmative action does serve a purpose, you know, and forcing 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:51.040 people to give equal opportunities. But I don't know how 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:52.880 secure I would be somewhere if no one I just 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:57.560 got hurt because I was a black dude. You follow 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:02.320 what I'm saying, a lot of break to go further there? Okay, 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.200 what would happen if you got hired just because you're 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.720 a black dude? What makes you bother body? Let's say, 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.359 you know what, not necessarily me personally with my coworkers, 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.320 my peers, I wouldn't want them looking at me like 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.640 this motherfucker don't even deserve the beer, because you know, 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.640 more often than not, when you get a job that 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.720 comes up, there are people that are already within that 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.640 system that may want that position and they and they 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.440 may very well be worthy of that position. But then 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.440 you get the guy that comes in just because I'm 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.839 African American and I get the job that can cause 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.840 some an of monstery true, I guess the employees that 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.560 can cause some man of monster, you know, I've seen 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.239 it before. I've heard people say it before. What that 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.679 body you just personally as a man, as a man, 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.800 you know what, man? Not really okay, because I feel 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.720 like that we've we've undergone so much in this country, 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.440 dog that we get through a layup every now and 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.600 then do they end there's wrong with that? You know? 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.880 I mean, I guess that's the whole And I wouldn't 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.040 want to say because I'm one of those people that do. 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:02.840 But and I do believe this, and this is what 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:07.080 our priesting my kids when that we're younger. We can't 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:12.840 be comfortable with mediocrity. Bro. You understand what I'm saying. 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.040 You can't be comfortable with mediocrity. Bro. I think that 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.560 we should all push ourselves to the maximum when we can. 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.560 Should I just get by with doing the minimum because 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.919 I always, you know, always challenge myself every day, is 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.920 even with my own business and my really doing enough 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:29.440 or a my spinning my wheels. You feel what I'm saying. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.120 Definitely spending your will sometimes, you know, I think we 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:34.920 all do to a certain extent. I think that's the 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.280 challenge of trying to be greater at something true true, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.840 you know, I think I think greatness really comes down 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:46.200 to simplicity, because you know, these things are the simplest things. Well, 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.640 sometimes we want to make them complex, but really they're 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.840 really steamline ideas that people can keep up with the 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.040 greatest things, at least the most impactful things. Well that's 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.280 it's the It's a new way to solve the simplest 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:05.360 problem around. Think about this. You remember when I started 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.360 my my attempted to start the first streaming platform, right, yeah, 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.280 you remember I was about fifty thousand into it when 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:13.920 you came in. They told me something I didn't really 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.200 want to hear, and I was asking me out about 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.480 that ship too. I was trying not to acknowledge it 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.920 because I spent all this money. But you were right. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.920 But had I not went through that phase I went 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:25.800 through before, I would have never met the departments that 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:29.120 I have now. I would have definitely learned a lot 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.400 about that about streaming. You see what I'm saying about 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:35.200 building the platform, and it just it was a listen. 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:38.279 I felt almost like, you know, people spending hundreds of 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.160 thousands of dollars to go to schools, dude, to learn something, right, 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.760 It's true. I feel like that's whatever it was just 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:51.080 me applying my trade. Bro. Yeah, that's all good. Um pete, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.520 where did you always honest? Where are you at with affirmative? Actually, 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.960 I think there's a lot of counterintuitive unintended to const 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:04.560 what's this to it? It's like people have almost a 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:10.080 fault to an initial impression of like the economics of 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:16.480 things like backwards. So like like the US standard is different, 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:20.039 like college admissions, for example, there's like affirmative admissions for 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.240 colleges where it's like even went to the Supreme Court 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.480 where it's like you can it was the University of 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:30.960 Texas that had that actual case. So if you people 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.000 are gonna tend to do the bare minimum for whatever 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.720 it is that they want to do. You know, so 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.200 if you lower the bare minimum for everybody and it 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:43.360 accommodates for four percent, the nine percent of the remainder 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:48.400 have lowered their performance standard and that's bad for the whole. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:53.120 So so I think that there's a certain unintended consequence 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:59.919 to that that isn't good. Yeah, but you understand why 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:05.960 to Bee, Yeah, I get it. I mean otherwise for 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:09.440 sure it it goes back again to my point in earlier, 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:14.360 your fostering, your fostering mediocrity. You're telling somebody to tell 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.479 the one group you have to be, you have to 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.560 be up here to get in here. But then you 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.920 tell another one just because you're this, we're gonna lect 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.359 you in. It's like I look at the universities with football, 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:29.159 for example, Chris asked scholarships to Stanford, Notre Dame. UM. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.640 You know, thanks, you wanted up choosing USC. But think 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.440 about this, bro, there were so many kids without knew 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.200 whose parents I would talk through. They had like four 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.120 point to g P as. How did you get a 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:42.480 four point to g P A that's incredible? Yeah, but 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:46.120 he he's not a law Don't get me wrong. Chris 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:47.800 was a great student, right, but he didn't have a 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.440 four point to GP A three point nine guy, right, 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.520 but he was able to get into these institutions based 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.240 on his ability to play a sport. And I think 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.279 it's all you know, and I think it's a society 0:06:58.320 --> 0:06:59.920 what we need to do due we need to stop 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.560 crying depicting about everything. Life is not theory itself, dude. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.840 There there's always gonna be somebody born better looking. It's 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.280 always gonna be somebody born better talented. You feel what 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.720 I'm saying this, we have all these things, over all 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.600 that stuff. It's subjective though, yeah, but it's up to 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.880 you to make yourself break you think about you think 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.120 about it like this. Think about some of our greatest 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.240 artists at this time, our greatest producers, and the directors 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:28.000 and actors, actress They wouldn't they're not necessarily the most 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.200 talented people in the world all time. Well, yeah, I 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:35.119 mean what they say, hard work beach talent with talent 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:39.560 doesn't work hard. I think that's the Oh, I see 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.200 plenty of NBA and NFL player coach, you coach, I 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.040 remember your coach coaching like peewee football for a while, 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.520 and I know you've seen that a lot of times. Yeah. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:54.000 Unfortunately that that can get trumped by like nepotism, where 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:55.920 you know, it's not what you know, who you know 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.040 as what you're the true to me, which is the 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:03.880 true racism? So nepotism is it? Is it? Really? Though? Yeah? 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:08.239 I mean yeah, the way we feel about racism is 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.840 a lot more rooted into nepotism on on a on 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.880 a on a global scale. Right, It's it's really who 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:18.560 you see yourself in. I mean that really, if you 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:23.720 think about like, first off, no seilings, gl you know 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:28.840 what I'm saying, Peter in the spot like normal, Uh, 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.920 my big brother and and and contributor to no seilings 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.120 often more often than not is big still in the house. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:41.679 But what I was saying is, um, I forgot my 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:43.320 trying to thought I must be losing my mom. Talk 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.160 about nepotism, Oh, nepotism, right, So it's who you see 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.880 yourself in and when you really think about it more 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:55.160 and more right you you you Most people do things 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.720 out of these really selfish reasons, right, Like people have 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.000 kids for all the most selfish reasons. If you listen 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.880 to people talking about having kids, they want to leave 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.960 a little barter myself on earth, as if you was 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.160 that great in the first place. And they talk about 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.640 how selfless parenting is when they did it off in themselves. 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:13.160 But that's the truth is it's the most selfish thing 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.600 going into going into it, but you come out the 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.520 most selfless motherfucker if you did it right. It's always 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.720 the most selfish it going into it. Oh, we need 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.080 to we need a product of our love or you know, 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.160 I need to leave a little piece of myself that 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.240 it would be all selfish reason going into it, and 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.920 then you come out that motherfucker totally forgetting who you are. Man. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.199 You have kids faced on your own vanity, dude, but 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:36.839 you want to see a version of yourself. You want 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.840 to live on hands down there, which is so so 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:45.720 I think, I you know, I won't bring kids. What 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.760 looks like I made it only so what I'm saying 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:53.079 is when you say nepotism, that's the true. The way 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.439 we feel about racism is more nepotism, you know what 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.040 I'm saying. It's like it's who you see yourself in 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.560 because like I always have this commense station like if 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.640 if if the I always say the whitest white man. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:06.720 It's either I wanted to say English, and I'm starting 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.080 to think Spaniard. I think spani Spanish people are super 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:16.800 they're super like super underratedly when it comes to uh 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.040 collegeize and ship, you know what I mean. They're taking 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.679 their culture and like making their culture be the like 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.680 it's a lot more excepted. Like you go to Mexico 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.000 and they're like super celebrating like that Spaniard ship, Like 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.480 we don't we don't quite celebrate the English ship to 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.480 me as much as when you go to South a 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.319 lot of the Spanish country, they they celebrate the oppressor 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.000 a lot more. I mean, like America, like they fought 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.200 these I get these the white folks credit over here. 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.880 They're like, nah, we're gonna even though they stole all 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.480 the names of their towns, like York, trying to make 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:49.080 a New York. You know. Uh. That was also before 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:53.160 they broke off. We didn't rename off the ship. Yeah. Problem, 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:54.880 It's like, yeah, exactly. It was like, hold, if y'all 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:56.720 don't want to pay us and y'all to stole our names, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:00.840 you want to make a new urgin of it, like 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:04.640 so low story short. I think nepotism is a lot 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.719 of times and that, but that's also the problem. Back 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.400 to the point that I was saying, if if an 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.719 Englishman had a black son and then he had to 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.760 hire a white another English white man or his son, 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.920 I don't give a funk what his son looked like, 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.720 most likely his son would get the job. Now you see, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.600 I don't think it's wrong, but but that's my point. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:30.360 So that's why I say the way we feel about 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:34.280 racism is really an incomplete thing as far as not 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.120 the see most people think of racism as somebody call 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:38.880 you a nigger. I don't think about that. You're just 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:43.400 a bigger asshole. Platforms watch your language, Oh yeah you can, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:48.800 and AI picks it up. They do so so. Uh. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.080 But I was saying that, I think that's the point. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.880 I think it's it's how you see yourself. And I 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.200 think if it's between the english Man getting the job 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.640 to english like an englishman, if an Englishman owned a 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:02.280 business and the Englishman and the spanish Man wanted the 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.200 job be hired Englishman. If it was between the spanish 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.120 Man and the irishman, maybe the irishman, between the spanish 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.160 Man and Italian man, maybe the Spanish man. If it's 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.760 the Talian man, and it's going to keep going further 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:19.520 way to what he sees in himself, And that's I'll say. 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.800 It brings up a couple of interesting points. Like one 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.720 of them is it's interesting how now you see? And 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.360 I don't want to go into it because I'm not 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:31.800 trying to go that way. But gender is a social construct, 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.320 and you can be transgender, but race is biological. You 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:41.119 can't be transracial totally inverted. Race is a social construct 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:46.319 because you if if we took the way. It's all 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.000 scale and scope of of region. You know, so if 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.720 if you took this same conversation just kept it within 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.800 Europe and the year fourteen a hundred and a French 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:56.680 guy moved to London and tried to get a job. 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.960 No one's gonna hire him because he's fucking French and 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:03.360 we hate those fucking vice versa. You know, I agree 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.240 with you, and I think that's a one of my 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:09.040 partners with Florida man shout out to that nigga um. 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.480 Now that's what he was really putting a lot of 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.079 pressure on me to make sure I remember that race 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.480 as a social construct, like it's weird because they're trying 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:22.440 to make race a bio like a biology thing. And 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:26.360 really sex is is actually the only second you can't 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.600 be You can be half white and half black, you 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:33.640 really can't be half whatever. But you know what I'm saying, like, 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:38.520 it's it's people, more multiples and variables and all kinds 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:42.960 of different schematics and that well, gee answered this, answered 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:47.120 this question, Peter, you chime me into as you know, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.640 I'm we're scaling in digital soapbox, we're growing the company, 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:54.720 We're going in different directions. You know, we got a 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:58.840 TV channel launch from all this. Right, Now, let's say 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.200 it's two thousand, only six, right, two thou seven, just 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.640 a cold strong flows all right, they say is two 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.720 th and the company is worth a half a billion 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.520 dollars close to a billion dollars, right, we went public. 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:15.040 It's a it's a huge company, bro, and we're competing 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:16.839 with the best, like we're up there with a v C, 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:21.880 esp and all these other platforms. Right, it comes time 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:26.760 to name a new president for the company. Now, Chris 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:31.240 a degree from journalism for University of Southern California, all this, 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.000 probably haven't been working with me for a few years. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.720 At this point, you think I would give a damn 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.360 about somebody being mad because I should have got that 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.560 job over Chris. I was more. I was more, I 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:45.040 was more qualified than Chris was. You know, you think 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.880 I would give a funk. That's my son. Think about it. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.680 Or your niece may come in, you know what we're 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.000 talking about hiring your niece with certain stuff, right, and 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.760 I make her Chris is that administrative assistant. People don't 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.760 know those Some of those at me in jobs are 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.960 six stick of jobs, right, six figure salaries come a 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.000 text to it. Now, just imagine the girl that's been 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:08.200 working they just imagine that young ladies might have been 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.400 working with me for the past eight nine years. Whatever 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.280 right she may feel some kind of way. And now 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.560 only shot. Only did he bring his lazy ass un 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.920 and here they don't do ship. He brought his friends 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.640 niece in here and she don't do nothing. All they 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:24.240 do when there is laughing, joking, giggle. But now why 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.600 shouldn't they have that favor when we put it in 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:31.080 the hard work and dedication to build that company. I'm 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.200 not letting nobody tell me hiring nobody. I'm hiring the 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:39.680 people I didn uh did I as I see fit? Yeah? 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.160 Is there is that wrong? Think about it? Is that wrong? 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:46.400 That's the ultimate conversation right now with regard to the 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:52.560 you know, like to being born on third base discussion, 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.320 It's like, you are what you want to do, but 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.760 the other person, the recipient, didn't earn the right to 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:02.920 do that. That's not my fault because theoretically me and 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:06.600 Glasses didn't have those um, we didn't have those opportunities 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.880 that we created those opportunities. So then then that that 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:12.760 brings me to this question, do you feel like there 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.240 was ever a purpose for a fragmative action once they 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:19.040 decided that black folks were free in this country, and 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.640 it was like, okay, look, we for getting the way 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.840 of y'all voting. We're not gonna get in the way 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:29.520 of nothing y'all doing. Make it happen. You own idea 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.440 affirmative action main ship, but just a way for a 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.440 bunch of white folks to feel good about themselves and 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.760 say they do or something that's that's that shouldn't make 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.240 a difference, bro, people are gonna hire who the funk 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:41.920 they want to do You look at the NFL is 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.320 like percent black as far as players, nine percent black, 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.800 and they had to force them to interview black coaches. 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:49.960 Come on, man, these people are going to steal hire 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.640 who they want to my thing. Just just fuck them, coach. 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.960 Just let's talk about the ownership, y'all to Ray Lewis, 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:57.800 get a team. How all these people have been trying 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.240 to come in and did they all these people with 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.200 all the money and qualifications to run a business, they've 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.520 been running mot being down with businesses. They whld life. 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.479 But what if what if somebody brother had been waiting 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.200 just as long or somebody brother that's a white person. 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:12.800 But that's what I'm saying, and you know what she 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.520 And that's why affirmative action has to be in place, 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:19.680 because we are so fucking behind the people. So then 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.280 wouldn't you shouldn't you practice it yourself by that thought? 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.320 But you know what I do practice because I do 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.679 give a whole lot of black people opportunities. No no, no, 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:30.120 no no, not like I'm saying, Well, I guess your 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:31.800 son is black, so that still would be a friend. 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:33.720 You know that's my son. I wouldn't give a damn, 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.080 But ain't I wouldn't need somebody to tell me to 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.600 hire black people. Let me ask you a question, would 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:43.160 you matter if if if Roger Goodell's brother, his younger 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.520 brother wanted to own a team and as a white 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:50.960 man versus Diddy in a group of brothers, how would 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.160 you feel about that? I wouldn't give a damn. Who 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.040 should get the job Roger Goodell brother? Or should they 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.439 let this in them get it? Because of that the 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.920 mosts to have the most power can and we don't 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.520 get that shot. He can and will. He's a benefit. 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:07.000 That's what I'm saying. You you almost talking about the 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.600 exercise and futility. Bro, It's like, ain't no way to 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:13.600 fight that. You feel what I'm saying, There's no way 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.679 to fight that. Bro't fight that because they're going to 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.360 do what the funk they want to do. Anyway. It's 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.280 almost like you have a headache, and my thing is this, 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:23.879 why do we keep trying to join the return to 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:25.560 let's go? You know what I like about the Rock? 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.399 What he did? The ruck say, if you want to 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:32.440 start his own league, start his own legs. Not to 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.000 quite the NFL. They pay nowhere near as much as 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.480 they do as far as salary and stuff goes. But 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:42.120 it's another opportunity for kids to play. Trump did Yeah, 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.480 to see the thing else and see this is the problem. 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.520 It's just not the NFL's. It's just corporate America's on. 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:53.439 Corporate America's mindset, right. Corporate America's mindset is to crush 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.680 the opposition at all costs and make as much money 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:58.560 as we possibly can and keep it in the house 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.520 for us. Let's keep this together for us. You think 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:06.199 about it, Think about Ford right, the car company, Right, 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.720 they on hundreds of thousands of dealerships. Bro, They manufact 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.639 your cars be sold all around the world. When you 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.040 go to Michigan, who do you see when they board 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.280 of directions, you board of directors. You may see a 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.440 few other names. You may see some Jones. This is 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:25.280 Thomas's hell. Mom My cousin's wife's dad was a big 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:27.479 shot up there. He's a black man, work for them 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.000 for forty fifty years. But when it came time to 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:33.600 sit at that main table, all Fords at that table. 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.880 Bro it's a it's a silver And I'm not mad 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:37.440 at that, because what I would like to see what 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.560 rap television one day and digital soapbox long list to 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:45.960 wear everybody up there names steals, tene mens, all kinds 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:48.720 of people to where Peter got a fucking niece. My 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.159 My whole thing is this Peter's need ship you or 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.000 the walk in our business and say, hey, my uncle 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:54.480 told me to come by and see you. I'm looking 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.840 for work right now, I'm going to school, no problem, 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:00.800 go see thug going against infirmative. Actually at that point 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:06.160 of all this ship because or is it okay, Peter? 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.560 Because we still black? Like does that make in theory 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.520 to practice to practice the same behavior of the oppression? 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.120 What the thing is we can't practice the same venus, 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.480 then we haven't had the same benefits. There, I'm saying, 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:22.879 let's say we are benefited, right, We me and you 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.919 have climbed from our family. We climbed out of poverty 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:29.680 into middle class and wealthy status right, status and standards. Right, Fine, 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.879 we started business and we just start hiring people that 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:38.760 looked like us or came from our family. Just you 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:40.760 know what thoughts you have to put in that too? 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:42.879 Is this because this is what I didn't say on 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.520 the flip side, just because if Chris was a damn 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.520 food he wouldn't be working for me because I worked 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:52.959 too hard for this ship to love I'm coming up. 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:54.960 I would rather just give him a check every week 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.119 and just say, man, get you check, whatever you do, 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.840 do it no more. We had that happen in our family. 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.359 Wife fos do that too. They like about this business 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.320 you find just get free, but don't come up here. No, 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.480 don't sucking up for jasmine and stuff farm. You feel 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.800 what I mean? They chids and their children's children. Because 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.920 I really want this to be something broke to where 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.800 people can look back. Everybody else doesn't. Why not see 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.040 what we need to stop doing instead? Of crying about 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:21.840 somebody not looking us in their house. We need to 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.560 go build our own house. But wouldn't that go again 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:27.040 to a firmative action then at that point, No, you 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:29.640 know what, it's a it's a concept that was gonna 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.560 never work anyway. Yeah, I always say that, my my 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:34.840 alwayshe was affirmative action from the first day, being that 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:38.920 white women, gay people, gay folks, l g B t 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.000 Q folks, all of them are part of the same thing. 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.560 That's why they keep adding on letters to that because 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.560