Speaker 1: M Watch up and welcome back to another episode and
Speaker 1: no Sellers podcast with your host not funk that with
Speaker 1: your low glasses Malone. In the United Kingdom, hiding someone
Speaker 1: simply because of their protective group status without regard to
Speaker 1: their performance is illegal. However, the law in the United
Speaker 1: Kingdom does allow for membership and a protected and disadvantaged
Speaker 1: group to be considered in hiring and promotion when the
Speaker 1: group is underrepresented in a given area if the candidates
Speaker 1: are equal of merit. Excuse me, if the candidates are
Speaker 1: of equal merit, in which case membership and a disadvantag
Speaker 1: group can become a tiebreaker. So that's our affirmative action
Speaker 1: works itself on the UK. That ship so h they're
Speaker 1: saying they can't just give what Chris Rock said? What
Speaker 1: did Chris Rock say? Chris Rock said, you should just
Speaker 1: be able to uh as I don't want it just
Speaker 1: to hide and paraphrasing something on the lives of like,
Speaker 1: I don't you shouldn't be able to hire any old
Speaker 1: person just because they're black. But if it's a but,
Speaker 1: if if it's close, it should it should go to
Speaker 1: us as meaning you sure I was speaking as Chris Rock,
Speaker 1: but you're you're Are you close enough? You're close enough?
Speaker 1: You don't have it that great? You know what? I
Speaker 1: think um to a certain exting g I think that
Speaker 1: affirmative action does serve a purpose, you know, and forcing
Speaker 1: people to give equal opportunities. But I don't know how
Speaker 1: secure I would be somewhere if no one I just
Speaker 1: got hurt because I was a black dude. You follow
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, a lot of break to go further there? Okay,
Speaker 1: what would happen if you got hired just because you're
Speaker 1: a black dude? What makes you bother body? Let's say,
Speaker 1: you know what, not necessarily me personally with my coworkers,
Speaker 1: my peers, I wouldn't want them looking at me like
Speaker 1: this motherfucker don't even deserve the beer, because you know,
Speaker 1: more often than not, when you get a job that
Speaker 1: comes up, there are people that are already within that
Speaker 1: system that may want that position and they and they
Speaker 1: may very well be worthy of that position. But then
Speaker 1: you get the guy that comes in just because I'm
Speaker 1: African American and I get the job that can cause
Speaker 1: some an of monstery true, I guess the employees that
Speaker 1: can cause some man of monster, you know, I've seen
Speaker 1: it before. I've heard people say it before. What that
Speaker 1: body you just personally as a man, as a man,
Speaker 1: you know what, man? Not really okay, because I feel
Speaker 1: like that we've we've undergone so much in this country,
Speaker 1: dog that we get through a layup every now and
Speaker 1: then do they end there's wrong with that? You know?
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's the whole And I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to say because I'm one of those people that do.
Speaker 1: But and I do believe this, and this is what
Speaker 1: our priesting my kids when that we're younger. We can't
Speaker 1: be comfortable with mediocrity. Bro. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You can't be comfortable with mediocrity. Bro. I think that
Speaker 1: we should all push ourselves to the maximum when we can.
Speaker 1: Should I just get by with doing the minimum because
Speaker 1: I always, you know, always challenge myself every day, is
Speaker 1: even with my own business and my really doing enough
Speaker 1: or a my spinning my wheels. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Definitely spending your will sometimes, you know, I think we
Speaker 1: all do to a certain extent. I think that's the
Speaker 1: challenge of trying to be greater at something true true,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think greatness really comes down
Speaker 1: to simplicity, because you know, these things are the simplest things. Well,
Speaker 1: sometimes we want to make them complex, but really they're
Speaker 1: really steamline ideas that people can keep up with the
Speaker 1: greatest things, at least the most impactful things. Well that's
Speaker 1: it's the It's a new way to solve the simplest
Speaker 1: problem around. Think about this. You remember when I started
Speaker 1: my my attempted to start the first streaming platform, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you remember I was about fifty thousand into it when
Speaker 1: you came in. They told me something I didn't really
Speaker 1: want to hear, and I was asking me out about
Speaker 1: that ship too. I was trying not to acknowledge it
Speaker 1: because I spent all this money. But you were right.
Speaker 1: But had I not went through that phase I went
Speaker 1: through before, I would have never met the departments that
Speaker 1: I have now. I would have definitely learned a lot
Speaker 1: about that about streaming. You see what I'm saying about
Speaker 1: building the platform, and it just it was a listen.
Speaker 1: I felt almost like, you know, people spending hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars to go to schools, dude, to learn something, right,
Speaker 1: It's true. I feel like that's whatever it was just
Speaker 1: me applying my trade. Bro. Yeah, that's all good. Um pete,
Speaker 1: where did you always honest? Where are you at with affirmative? Actually,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of counterintuitive unintended to const
Speaker 1: what's this to it? It's like people have almost a
Speaker 1: fault to an initial impression of like the economics of
Speaker 1: things like backwards. So like like the US standard is different,
Speaker 1: like college admissions, for example, there's like affirmative admissions for
Speaker 1: colleges where it's like even went to the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: where it's like you can it was the University of
Speaker 1: Texas that had that actual case. So if you people
Speaker 1: are gonna tend to do the bare minimum for whatever
Speaker 1: it is that they want to do. You know, so
Speaker 1: if you lower the bare minimum for everybody and it
Speaker 1: accommodates for four percent, the nine percent of the remainder
Speaker 1: have lowered their performance standard and that's bad for the whole.
Speaker 1: So so I think that there's a certain unintended consequence
Speaker 1: to that that isn't good. Yeah, but you understand why
Speaker 1: to Bee, Yeah, I get it. I mean otherwise for
Speaker 1: sure it it goes back again to my point in earlier,
Speaker 1: your fostering, your fostering mediocrity. You're telling somebody to tell
Speaker 1: the one group you have to be, you have to
Speaker 1: be up here to get in here. But then you
Speaker 1: tell another one just because you're this, we're gonna lect
Speaker 1: you in. It's like I look at the universities with football,
Speaker 1: for example, Chris asked scholarships to Stanford, Notre Dame. UM.
Speaker 1: You know, thanks, you wanted up choosing USC. But think
Speaker 1: about this, bro, there were so many kids without knew
Speaker 1: whose parents I would talk through. They had like four
Speaker 1: point to g P as. How did you get a
Speaker 1: four point to g P A that's incredible? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he he's not a law Don't get me wrong. Chris
Speaker 1: was a great student, right, but he didn't have a
Speaker 1: four point to GP A three point nine guy, right,
Speaker 1: but he was able to get into these institutions based
Speaker 1: on his ability to play a sport. And I think
Speaker 1: it's all you know, and I think it's a society
Speaker 1: what we need to do due we need to stop
Speaker 1: crying depicting about everything. Life is not theory itself, dude.
Speaker 1: There there's always gonna be somebody born better looking. It's
Speaker 1: always gonna be somebody born better talented. You feel what
Speaker 1: I'm saying this, we have all these things, over all
Speaker 1: that stuff. It's subjective though, yeah, but it's up to
Speaker 1: you to make yourself break you think about you think
Speaker 1: about it like this. Think about some of our greatest
Speaker 1: artists at this time, our greatest producers, and the directors
Speaker 1: and actors, actress They wouldn't they're not necessarily the most
Speaker 1: talented people in the world all time. Well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean what they say, hard work beach talent with talent
Speaker 1: doesn't work hard. I think that's the Oh, I see
Speaker 1: plenty of NBA and NFL player coach, you coach, I
Speaker 1: remember your coach coaching like peewee football for a while,
Speaker 1: and I know you've seen that a lot of times. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately that that can get trumped by like nepotism, where
Speaker 1: you know, it's not what you know, who you know
Speaker 1: as what you're the true to me, which is the
Speaker 1: true racism? So nepotism is it? Is it? Really? Though? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, the way we feel about racism is
Speaker 1: a lot more rooted into nepotism on on a on
Speaker 1: a on a global scale. Right, It's it's really who
Speaker 1: you see yourself in. I mean that really, if you
Speaker 1: think about like, first off, no seilings, gl you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Peter in the spot like normal, Uh,
Speaker 1: my big brother and and and contributor to no seilings
Speaker 1: often more often than not is big still in the house.
Speaker 1: But what I was saying is, um, I forgot my
Speaker 1: trying to thought I must be losing my mom. Talk
Speaker 1: about nepotism, Oh, nepotism, right, So it's who you see
Speaker 1: yourself in and when you really think about it more
Speaker 1: and more right you you you Most people do things
Speaker 1: out of these really selfish reasons, right, Like people have
Speaker 1: kids for all the most selfish reasons. If you listen
Speaker 1: to people talking about having kids, they want to leave
Speaker 1: a little barter myself on earth, as if you was
Speaker 1: that great in the first place. And they talk about
Speaker 1: how selfless parenting is when they did it off in themselves.
Speaker 1: But that's the truth is it's the most selfish thing
Speaker 1: going into going into it, but you come out the
Speaker 1: most selfless motherfucker if you did it right. It's always
Speaker 1: the most selfish it going into it. Oh, we need
Speaker 1: to we need a product of our love or you know,
Speaker 1: I need to leave a little piece of myself that
Speaker 1: it would be all selfish reason going into it, and
Speaker 1: then you come out that motherfucker totally forgetting who you are. Man.
Speaker 1: You have kids faced on your own vanity, dude, but
Speaker 1: you want to see a version of yourself. You want
Speaker 1: to live on hands down there, which is so so
Speaker 1: I think, I you know, I won't bring kids. What
Speaker 1: looks like I made it only so what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is when you say nepotism, that's the true. The way
Speaker 1: we feel about racism is more nepotism, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like it's who you see yourself in
Speaker 1: because like I always have this commense station like if
Speaker 1: if if the I always say the whitest white man.
Speaker 1: It's either I wanted to say English, and I'm starting
Speaker 1: to think Spaniard. I think spani Spanish people are super
Speaker 1: they're super like super underratedly when it comes to uh
Speaker 1: collegeize and ship, you know what I mean. They're taking
Speaker 1: their culture and like making their culture be the like
Speaker 1: it's a lot more excepted. Like you go to Mexico
Speaker 1: and they're like super celebrating like that Spaniard ship, Like
Speaker 1: we don't we don't quite celebrate the English ship to
Speaker 1: me as much as when you go to South a
Speaker 1: lot of the Spanish country, they they celebrate the oppressor
Speaker 1: a lot more. I mean, like America, like they fought
Speaker 1: these I get these the white folks credit over here.
Speaker 1: They're like, nah, we're gonna even though they stole all
Speaker 1: the names of their towns, like York, trying to make
Speaker 1: a New York. You know. Uh. That was also before
Speaker 1: they broke off. We didn't rename off the ship. Yeah. Problem,
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, exactly. It was like, hold, if y'all
Speaker 1: don't want to pay us and y'all to stole our names,
Speaker 1: you want to make a new urgin of it, like
Speaker 1: so low story short. I think nepotism is a lot
Speaker 1: of times and that, but that's also the problem. Back
Speaker 1: to the point that I was saying, if if an
Speaker 1: Englishman had a black son and then he had to
Speaker 1: hire a white another English white man or his son,
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk what his son looked like,
Speaker 1: most likely his son would get the job. Now you see,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's wrong, but but that's my point.
Speaker 1: So that's why I say the way we feel about
Speaker 1: racism is really an incomplete thing as far as not
Speaker 1: the see most people think of racism as somebody call
Speaker 1: you a nigger. I don't think about that. You're just
Speaker 1: a bigger asshole. Platforms watch your language, Oh yeah you can,
Speaker 1: and AI picks it up. They do so so. Uh.
Speaker 1: But I was saying that, I think that's the point.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's how you see yourself. And I
Speaker 1: think if it's between the english Man getting the job
Speaker 1: to english like an englishman, if an Englishman owned a
Speaker 1: business and the Englishman and the spanish Man wanted the
Speaker 1: job be hired Englishman. If it was between the spanish
Speaker 1: Man and the irishman, maybe the irishman, between the spanish
Speaker 1: Man and Italian man, maybe the Spanish man. If it's
Speaker 1: the Talian man, and it's going to keep going further
Speaker 1: way to what he sees in himself, And that's I'll say.
Speaker 1: It brings up a couple of interesting points. Like one
Speaker 1: of them is it's interesting how now you see? And
Speaker 1: I don't want to go into it because I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to go that way. But gender is a social construct,
Speaker 1: and you can be transgender, but race is biological. You
Speaker 1: can't be transracial totally inverted. Race is a social construct
Speaker 1: because you if if we took the way. It's all
Speaker 1: scale and scope of of region. You know, so if
Speaker 1: if you took this same conversation just kept it within
Speaker 1: Europe and the year fourteen a hundred and a French
Speaker 1: guy moved to London and tried to get a job.
Speaker 1: No one's gonna hire him because he's fucking French and
Speaker 1: we hate those fucking vice versa. You know, I agree
Speaker 1: with you, and I think that's a one of my
Speaker 1: partners with Florida man shout out to that nigga um.
Speaker 1: Now that's what he was really putting a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure on me to make sure I remember that race
Speaker 1: as a social construct, like it's weird because they're trying
Speaker 1: to make race a bio like a biology thing. And
Speaker 1: really sex is is actually the only second you can't
Speaker 1: be You can be half white and half black, you
Speaker 1: really can't be half whatever. But you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: it's it's people, more multiples and variables and all kinds
Speaker 1: of different schematics and that well, gee answered this, answered
Speaker 1: this question, Peter, you chime me into as you know,
Speaker 1: I'm we're scaling in digital soapbox, we're growing the company,
Speaker 1: We're going in different directions. You know, we got a
Speaker 1: TV channel launch from all this. Right, Now, let's say
Speaker 1: it's two thousand, only six, right, two thou seven, just
Speaker 1: a cold strong flows all right, they say is two
Speaker 1: th and the company is worth a half a billion
Speaker 1: dollars close to a billion dollars, right, we went public.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a huge company, bro, and we're competing
Speaker 1: with the best, like we're up there with a v C,
Speaker 1: esp and all these other platforms. Right, it comes time
Speaker 1: to name a new president for the company. Now, Chris
Speaker 1: a degree from journalism for University of Southern California, all this,
Speaker 1: probably haven't been working with me for a few years.
Speaker 1: At this point, you think I would give a damn
Speaker 1: about somebody being mad because I should have got that
Speaker 1: job over Chris. I was more. I was more, I
Speaker 1: was more qualified than Chris was. You know, you think
Speaker 1: I would give a funk. That's my son. Think about it.
Speaker 1: Or your niece may come in, you know what we're
Speaker 1: talking about hiring your niece with certain stuff, right, and
Speaker 1: I make her Chris is that administrative assistant. People don't
Speaker 1: know those Some of those at me in jobs are
Speaker 1: six stick of jobs, right, six figure salaries come a
Speaker 1: text to it. Now, just imagine the girl that's been
Speaker 1: working they just imagine that young ladies might have been
Speaker 1: working with me for the past eight nine years. Whatever
Speaker 1: right she may feel some kind of way. And now
Speaker 1: only shot. Only did he bring his lazy ass un
Speaker 1: and here they don't do ship. He brought his friends
Speaker 1: niece in here and she don't do nothing. All they
Speaker 1: do when there is laughing, joking, giggle. But now why
Speaker 1: shouldn't they have that favor when we put it in
Speaker 1: the hard work and dedication to build that company. I'm
Speaker 1: not letting nobody tell me hiring nobody. I'm hiring the
Speaker 1: people I didn uh did I as I see fit? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is there is that wrong? Think about it? Is that wrong?
Speaker 1: That's the ultimate conversation right now with regard to the
Speaker 1: you know, like to being born on third base discussion,
Speaker 1: It's like, you are what you want to do, but
Speaker 1: the other person, the recipient, didn't earn the right to
Speaker 1: do that. That's not my fault because theoretically me and
Speaker 1: Glasses didn't have those um, we didn't have those opportunities
Speaker 1: that we created those opportunities. So then then that that
Speaker 1: brings me to this question, do you feel like there
Speaker 1: was ever a purpose for a fragmative action once they
Speaker 1: decided that black folks were free in this country, and
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, look, we for getting the way
Speaker 1: of y'all voting. We're not gonna get in the way
Speaker 1: of nothing y'all doing. Make it happen. You own idea
Speaker 1: affirmative action main ship, but just a way for a
Speaker 1: bunch of white folks to feel good about themselves and
Speaker 1: say they do or something that's that's that shouldn't make
Speaker 1: a difference, bro, people are gonna hire who the funk
Speaker 1: they want to do You look at the NFL is
Speaker 1: like percent black as far as players, nine percent black,
Speaker 1: and they had to force them to interview black coaches.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, these people are going to steal hire
Speaker 1: who they want to my thing. Just just fuck them, coach.
Speaker 1: Just let's talk about the ownership, y'all to Ray Lewis,
Speaker 1: get a team. How all these people have been trying
Speaker 1: to come in and did they all these people with
Speaker 1: all the money and qualifications to run a business, they've
Speaker 1: been running mot being down with businesses. They whld life.
Speaker 1: But what if what if somebody brother had been waiting
Speaker 1: just as long or somebody brother that's a white person.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, and you know what she
Speaker 1: And that's why affirmative action has to be in place,
Speaker 1: because we are so fucking behind the people. So then
Speaker 1: wouldn't you shouldn't you practice it yourself by that thought?
Speaker 1: But you know what I do practice because I do
Speaker 1: give a whole lot of black people opportunities. No no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, not like I'm saying, Well, I guess your
Speaker 1: son is black, so that still would be a friend.
Speaker 1: You know that's my son. I wouldn't give a damn,
Speaker 1: But ain't I wouldn't need somebody to tell me to
Speaker 1: hire black people. Let me ask you a question, would
Speaker 1: you matter if if if Roger Goodell's brother, his younger
Speaker 1: brother wanted to own a team and as a white
Speaker 1: man versus Diddy in a group of brothers, how would
Speaker 1: you feel about that? I wouldn't give a damn. Who
Speaker 1: should get the job Roger Goodell brother? Or should they
Speaker 1: let this in them get it? Because of that the
Speaker 1: mosts to have the most power can and we don't
Speaker 1: get that shot. He can and will. He's a benefit.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You you almost talking about the
Speaker 1: exercise and futility. Bro, It's like, ain't no way to
Speaker 1: fight that. You feel what I'm saying, There's no way
Speaker 1: to fight that. Bro't fight that because they're going to
Speaker 1: do what the funk they want to do. Anyway. It's
Speaker 1: almost like you have a headache, and my thing is this,
Speaker 1: why do we keep trying to join the return to
Speaker 1: let's go? You know what I like about the Rock?
Speaker 1: What he did? The ruck say, if you want to
Speaker 1: start his own league, start his own legs. Not to
Speaker 1: quite the NFL. They pay nowhere near as much as
Speaker 1: they do as far as salary and stuff goes. But
Speaker 1: it's another opportunity for kids to play. Trump did Yeah,
Speaker 1: to see the thing else and see this is the problem.
Speaker 1: It's just not the NFL's. It's just corporate America's on.
Speaker 1: Corporate America's mindset, right. Corporate America's mindset is to crush
Speaker 1: the opposition at all costs and make as much money
Speaker 1: as we possibly can and keep it in the house
Speaker 1: for us. Let's keep this together for us. You think
Speaker 1: about it, Think about Ford right, the car company, Right,
Speaker 1: they on hundreds of thousands of dealerships. Bro, They manufact
Speaker 1: your cars be sold all around the world. When you
Speaker 1: go to Michigan, who do you see when they board
Speaker 1: of directions, you board of directors. You may see a
Speaker 1: few other names. You may see some Jones. This is
Speaker 1: Thomas's hell. Mom My cousin's wife's dad was a big
Speaker 1: shot up there. He's a black man, work for them
Speaker 1: for forty fifty years. But when it came time to
Speaker 1: sit at that main table, all Fords at that table.
Speaker 1: Bro it's a it's a silver And I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at that, because what I would like to see what
Speaker 1: rap television one day and digital soapbox long list to
Speaker 1: wear everybody up there names steals, tene mens, all kinds
Speaker 1: of people to where Peter got a fucking niece. My
Speaker 1: My whole thing is this Peter's need ship you or
Speaker 1: the walk in our business and say, hey, my uncle
Speaker 1: told me to come by and see you. I'm looking
Speaker 1: for work right now, I'm going to school, no problem,
Speaker 1: go see thug going against infirmative. Actually at that point
Speaker 1: of all this ship because or is it okay, Peter?
Speaker 1: Because we still black? Like does that make in theory
Speaker 1: to practice to practice the same behavior of the oppression?
Speaker 1: What the thing is we can't practice the same venus,
Speaker 1: then we haven't had the same benefits. There, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: let's say we are benefited, right, We me and you
Speaker 1: have climbed from our family. We climbed out of poverty
Speaker 1: into middle class and wealthy status right, status and standards. Right, Fine,
Speaker 1: we started business and we just start hiring people that
Speaker 1: looked like us or came from our family. Just you
Speaker 1: know what thoughts you have to put in that too?
Speaker 1: Is this because this is what I didn't say on
Speaker 1: the flip side, just because if Chris was a damn
Speaker 1: food he wouldn't be working for me because I worked
Speaker 1: too hard for this ship to love I'm coming up.
Speaker 1: I would rather just give him a check every week
Speaker 1: and just say, man, get you check, whatever you do,
Speaker 1: do it no more. We had that happen in our family.
Speaker 1: Wife fos do that too. They like about this business
Speaker 1: you find just get free, but don't come up here. No,
Speaker 1: don't sucking up for jasmine and stuff farm. You feel
Speaker 1: what I mean? They chids and their children's children. Because
Speaker 1: I really want this to be something broke to where
Speaker 1: people can look back. Everybody else doesn't. Why not see
Speaker 1: what we need to stop doing instead? Of crying about
Speaker 1: somebody not looking us in their house. We need to
Speaker 1: go build our own house. But wouldn't that go again
Speaker 1: to a firmative action then at that point, No, you
Speaker 1: know what, it's a it's a concept that was gonna
Speaker 1: never work anyway. Yeah, I always say that, my my
Speaker 1: alwayshe was affirmative action from the first day, being that
Speaker 1: white women, gay people, gay folks, l g B t
Speaker 1: Q folks, all of them are part of the same thing.
Speaker 1: That's why they keep adding on letters to that because
Speaker 1: I could say, hypothetically, oh, I'm I'm a cute, you're
Speaker 1: a better than No, but I was, I was questioning
Speaker 1: some things. I think you should hire me. They just
Speaker 1: keep roddening, this prodding the umbrella, and they pushed back anyway.
Speaker 1: So I never liked you. I never cared for it
Speaker 1: because you still don't compete with white women. Well, all
Speaker 1: this stuff you do, it's falster negative feelings towards people.
Speaker 1: It creates the feel but you don't you don't think
Speaker 1: it's there. If you disenfranchise right, if if you disenfranchise right,
Speaker 1: if you disenfranchise and community or uh, black folks in
Speaker 1: this country for a four hundred years, right, for the
Speaker 1: most part, like a group a huge number of people, right,
Speaker 1: and you're trying to figure out how to fix it, right,
Speaker 1: but you don't actually really want to give them too much.
Speaker 1: You want to give them because, you know, because other
Speaker 1: than that, they could just say, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: check for all the work you did building all this
Speaker 1: America for free. We think slavery is wrong here, you
Speaker 1: know this makes it fair. So what you do is
Speaker 1: you create other ways to try to balance it out.
Speaker 1: But saying that this is not one of those ways.
Speaker 1: It's not not have a way to cool work. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. See, I'm gonna tell you this,
Speaker 1: Peter didn't personally do ship to us, so why should
Speaker 1: he be forced to go He should be able to
Speaker 1: hire whoever the funk he wanted to and do what
Speaker 1: the funk he wants to because if he had racist
Speaker 1: you shouldn't want to work for that motherfucker. No way.
Speaker 1: This is making other people, you feel what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's a million other places to go out there, But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is this, the American government wants to
Speaker 1: always tell somebody. They always want to make somebody pick
Speaker 1: up They're tad for them sucking up. If America wanted
Speaker 1: to make this right, it would be an easy way.
Speaker 1: We are so far behind. Is the people gus almost
Speaker 1: impossible to take up. It's almost like somebody running a
Speaker 1: mile race, but we're showing up twenty minutes late. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna be to compete. I don't care how fast
Speaker 1: you are, you are never gonna make at the time
Speaker 1: to win that race. So I think what they need
Speaker 1: to do, dude, is that they need to and it
Speaker 1: can't be just about money, because I'm gonna tell you this.
Speaker 1: If you give every black men in this country a
Speaker 1: million dollars today, it would be there would be um.
Speaker 1: I think it was something like man, seventy of those
Speaker 1: people do would be bank broke a year later as
Speaker 1: the money to do what they want to with it.
Speaker 1: But that's but that's what I'm saying. No, but check
Speaker 1: this out. So I would say that money is just
Speaker 1: not the problem. That money needs to be covered with education,
Speaker 1: and it needs to be covered with a couple of
Speaker 1: different things because a lot of people don't understand the
Speaker 1: concept of money here. You know, if you give the
Speaker 1: average dude with a million dollars right now, if you
Speaker 1: gave the average dude, if we if we called the
Speaker 1: giants right now and said, hey, we gotta check for
Speaker 1: a million dollars for y'all come up here and get
Speaker 1: it right. I'm not saying they would do it, but
Speaker 1: the average group they're going to go out and spend
Speaker 1: a million ten dollars. They're not gonna take in the
Speaker 1: count to where you know what, Let me call my
Speaker 1: accountant and put the four hundred tho dollars up to
Speaker 1: bigly hit my ask. Would I would rather get the
Speaker 1: money back than over the end of the thing? You
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying at typical fortune last three generations.
Speaker 1: Anything beyond that as an anomaly mm hm, and has
Speaker 1: to do with multiple factors and like it's like it's
Speaker 1: like the counterintuitive elements of like if you were to examine,
Speaker 1: like the slavery economy in the region that it existed in,
Speaker 1: it was terrible for the economy in that region, for
Speaker 1: the country. It was a poorer region of the country
Speaker 1: than the in the part that did not have that.
Speaker 1: Because now everything becomes defined as barriers of entry and
Speaker 1: reducing competition and reducing merit based performance and all these
Speaker 1: other things. So you come have very concentrated centers of
Speaker 1: wealth on small land a small number of large landowners.
Speaker 1: You don't have ancillary economy around that, you don't have
Speaker 1: the ability for people to be entrepreneurs. All these like
Speaker 1: like every white person who was not a wealthy landowner
Speaker 1: in the South suffered economically because of slavory, not to
Speaker 1: the extent that slaves suffered. And that's not the point
Speaker 1: trying to make. I'm just saying it's so people at
Speaker 1: the time. People it upset when I say this. I've
Speaker 1: heard multiple will get upset. Um slavery was normal across
Speaker 1: the world. It was how people treated their slaves. In
Speaker 1: the South, it was just like a poor mentality. It's
Speaker 1: a horrible poor and just disinfranchise mentality. And me eveaged
Speaker 1: to always debate this, but I'm like, the problem is
Speaker 1: when you give poor people something, they don't know how
Speaker 1: to treat it. So I could imagine if they had
Speaker 1: a ton of plantations, how the areas was around it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and you're also choked off from any ability
Speaker 1: to like really earn any kind of money. And and
Speaker 1: I also it's it's it's similars like what you see
Speaker 1: with like big tech right now where there's such a
Speaker 1: concentration of wealth that anybody who starts to do anything
Speaker 1: gets bought out in two seconds. So if you have
Speaker 1: a six hundred acre plantation and some farmer over here
Speaker 1: starts to get it together and whatever, and they're making
Speaker 1: some money, you're not only gonna be able to buy
Speaker 1: out effective you ready to ready to go land, but
Speaker 1: you're also gonna buy a competitor out of the way,
Speaker 1: you know, which is what you see like the number
Speaker 1: of I p l s being inverted by the number
Speaker 1: of murders and acquisitions over the last ten years. And
Speaker 1: then that person is like, yeah, I gotta check who,
Speaker 1: but that check is gonna be gone. Your kids are
Speaker 1: not gonna have that money. You're not even gonna second
Speaker 1: generation exactly. And that's why I always say, man, I
Speaker 1: think the average person, this entrepreneur, of the real entrepreneur,
Speaker 1: he's not building something to go give away and say no,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to have this year. I'm trying to be
Speaker 1: that anomaly, Peter. I'm trying to be that anomaly to
Speaker 1: where you look up three generations, no man after me.
Speaker 1: That would be just so ill seeing somebody looked like
Speaker 1: me flying the flying car head to the office. You know,
Speaker 1: talk talking ship, you know what I mean, like talking
Speaker 1: ship like his is. I would love it, dude, I
Speaker 1: would love it. And to see somebody look like glass
Speaker 1: and see somebody look like you do. We have to
Speaker 1: create these opportunities for ourselves. Dude. I keep telling you.
Speaker 1: This is my slogo for two thousand twenty two. The
Speaker 1: cavalry is not coming. Yeah, well that's that's powerful. The
Speaker 1: calvary is not coming. We need to stop sitting up
Speaker 1: here waiting. And I think that this is the African
Speaker 1: I speak for the black race. I say this, man.
Speaker 1: We spend so much precious time arguing about who should
Speaker 1: be doing what for us when we need to get
Speaker 1: off our asks and do it. We are very good
Speaker 1: at spending money. We spend more cash than anybody else
Speaker 1: in this world. I think that some of that, like
Speaker 1: I had two interesting, like I had three epiphanies or whatever,
Speaker 1: the nine epiphanies bouse more powerful. We're more powerful than
Speaker 1: what we display. Dude. Seriously, Yeah, I disagree with that
Speaker 1: at all, um. And like I think like people I've
Speaker 1: heard like in you know, behind closed doors confer like
Speaker 1: like white people that I know owned that owned business
Speaker 1: have for you know that, ELK. I think that a
Speaker 1: lot of the perception within Black America is like like
Speaker 1: stay you know the name prejudice and your resume. You
Speaker 1: have a very stereotypically like black first name. Someone sees
Speaker 1: that on the resume they discarded as person is black.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have a black person here. It's not.
Speaker 1: It's not quite so much like I don't like them. Funck.
Speaker 1: Then it's now it's like, well, we really have to
Speaker 1: think long and hard if we want to hire this individual,
Speaker 1: because the laws if it's not, if it's not working out,
Speaker 1: are so out of favor for us to be able
Speaker 1: to just on the merit level dismiss the individual as
Speaker 1: we would dismiss another person, because they could go ahead
Speaker 1: and say, oh no, you're only firing me because I'm black.
Speaker 1: So that becomes now so much case laws stacked on
Speaker 1: top of each other that now people are like that
Speaker 1: can work against hiring as well as Okay, well, a
Speaker 1: company of our side should have a minimum threshold of
Speaker 1: eight twelve whatever the percentages for that barrier. I don't
Speaker 1: want you are not going above that because it's too
Speaker 1: hard to get people we're gonna get So so what
Speaker 1: do you think that what do you think front of beginning,
Speaker 1: like right, I mean, I know you wasn't alive, but
Speaker 1: what do you think about the effort or the idea
Speaker 1: of affirmative action to try to all set all of
Speaker 1: the issues that was caused to black people in America
Speaker 1: based around slavery. I think it's more so giving a
Speaker 1: man of fish, and I think it's giving a man
Speaker 1: of fish so that you can feel good for giving
Speaker 1: him the fish that do you feel very pleased with yourself?
Speaker 1: But also at the time, a lot of this stuff
Speaker 1: happened right when a group of people became eligible to vote.
Speaker 1: So now it's like here, I'll give you this fish,
Speaker 1: vote for me. I'll give you another fish, and I'll
Speaker 1: give you another fish, and I'll give you another fish.
Speaker 1: And you see, maybe there aren't as many fishermen as
Speaker 1: there should be per captor. Mm hmmm. So right now
Speaker 1: so right now, still so right now with right now
Speaker 1: they're being back in and uh, what's the court called
Speaker 1: pete to Preme Court Freme Court? Right now? So then
Speaker 1: what do you feel about it? It's something that's a
Speaker 1: necessary thing, like uh, is American getting into a space
Speaker 1: to where inclusion is just like detrimental. You know what, Bro,
Speaker 1: I think they're As long as you have human beings,
Speaker 1: you're going to have the ability to tank something, even
Speaker 1: if something is meant for good, Right, it's gonna become corrupt,
Speaker 1: because that's just who we are by nature. You know
Speaker 1: what they say self first preservation is the first law
Speaker 1: of nature. We're always in the constant state of flux
Speaker 1: due to the world. We're always trying to better ourselves,
Speaker 1: even if it's even if it's something from the most
Speaker 1: minute thing, like a smoker might be thinking like, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna make sixty dollars stay how all day?
Speaker 1: Sixty dollars to keep me how all days? So that's
Speaker 1: his motivation, right, it's crazy this time. I'm always thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: how can I make more money so I can hire
Speaker 1: more people. I need to have this, I need to
Speaker 1: do this. So I'm always thinking, right, So we're always
Speaker 1: in this constant transition. Bro. As long as that's going on, Bro,
Speaker 1: it's need to do, but it's not gonna work. I
Speaker 1: think the closest thing we can come to it, BRO,
Speaker 1: is putting the education and cash patage together and just
Speaker 1: letting people go about their business. I think you have to.
Speaker 1: You have cultural flaws on each side, and the shortest
Speaker 1: way to fix the situation is for black parents to
Speaker 1: be like Asian parents and just be hard fucking core.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have a good time till you're forty,
Speaker 1: and like I would like that, I just fear the
Speaker 1: comparableness of it's not really comparable. How do you mean
Speaker 1: parents coming from trauma? It's different, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It's just different. Let me ask this just a basic question,
Speaker 1: because and I also think about it, like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of anti and and reason to be different generations,
Speaker 1: like because Asians didn't come here and start crushing it
Speaker 1: till like the eighties and nineties. You know, at the earliest, well,
Speaker 1: we had just come out of three consecutive major wars
Speaker 1: against Asians. People didn't particularly like Asians, you know, I
Speaker 1: remember reading about it. So like, if you're an Asian
Speaker 1: kid and you get a B plus, you better be
Speaker 1: wearing a helmet. I don't feel like if you're at
Speaker 1: least to the same capacity. I know there's a lot
Speaker 1: of parents that are not fitting this description at all.
Speaker 1: I know if I brought home a b plus I
Speaker 1: was okay, that was not that didn't serve me any
Speaker 1: because I brought home a lot of them, way too many.
Speaker 1: I think, I think there's an ideal, right of what's
Speaker 1: going going today, and then the justifications needed to really
Speaker 1: so it's it's not about that's the excess of question.
Speaker 1: Uh is justifying an action? It is a justification of
Speaker 1: an action versus a pursuit of the best action type
Speaker 1: of Dolenna. Well, I think I think they're So that's
Speaker 1: where it gets crazy right now. And this is where
Speaker 1: I think being a part of the culture just makes
Speaker 1: it a complete different experience, right, Um, sure, yes, we
Speaker 1: can ask a bunch of people who are and I
Speaker 1: gotta get to it. This is a very serious topic
Speaker 1: two right within the DA Sport period, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: is it somebody's fault or is it just people just
Speaker 1: being sucked up? And it's it's obvious, right if I
Speaker 1: do something specifically to a car, it will start tearing
Speaker 1: up every other part of the car if that part
Speaker 1: of the car is not fixed, Can it be fixed personally?
Speaker 1: As different? Can the trauma that black peop who have
Speaker 1: been through in America unjustly be fixed by black people.
Speaker 1: Most likely not. It's virtually impossible as a as a whole.
Speaker 1: But I don't think there's a whole community of anybody
Speaker 1: in this country crushing it. I just think, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just think we look at it like if you specifically,
Speaker 1: like black people in this country have been wrong, right,
Speaker 1: as long as you believe slavery is wrong, as long
Speaker 1: as you believe what happened is wrong, right, And like
Speaker 1: anything else, it's it's the person's responsibility to do their
Speaker 1: best to make it right. So, like I always tell people, like,
Speaker 1: for example, um, any time a rapper die, right, any
Speaker 1: time a rapper die, the first thing people talk about is,
Speaker 1: oh he died because of this, or is a murder
Speaker 1: culture and hip hoplah blah Blah's Like sometimes there's none
Speaker 1: of that. Sometimes it's just people get shot and die.
Speaker 1: This is not like this exclusive problem that happens in
Speaker 1: our community. This is happening in east of late this happened,
Speaker 1: that this happened and little Cambodia town. What we talked
Speaker 1: about that earlier, bros. Because those those murders don't attract
Speaker 1: the social currency talk about it. So so what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is is the solution as simple as oh, well,
Speaker 1: if black people just get the act together everything and
Speaker 1: be fine? But how do you get your act together
Speaker 1: when it's not? Like I get that. I think the
Speaker 1: conversation like, there's there's the question is there's two there's
Speaker 1: what can be done as a as a broader whole,
Speaker 1: not like what can be done? What is the most
Speaker 1: effective thing that can like really like really really I
Speaker 1: think that question isn't asked. Well. That's why I think
Speaker 1: it gets tricky, right, because at that point it becomes
Speaker 1: do you want to make it right for yourself and
Speaker 1: sustainably effective? But but I don't. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: the point where I don't think it's Probleme example, like,
Speaker 1: if you do something wrong with somebody right and you
Speaker 1: put your best foot forward, your best foot forward of
Speaker 1: trying to make it right, think it's about you more
Speaker 1: than it's about the person. And I think America has
Speaker 1: done a very horrid job of trying to make it
Speaker 1: right versus Oh, if is this is gonna is this
Speaker 1: gonna fix the the ditsport as a whole in America
Speaker 1: black gosport? No, it's probably not, But it's not about
Speaker 1: it's not about um. Is it gonna fix everything? Did
Speaker 1: you do your part and what you broke? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Did you do your part and what
Speaker 1: you broke? And it may be a longer project problem. Example,
Speaker 1: like if I if I break something specifically on the car,
Speaker 1: and then it calls, like if I break a certain
Speaker 1: part of the staring the staring equipment, and it you know,
Speaker 1: eventually your car breaks, your a arm breaks your tires
Speaker 1: really bad because they're not correctly they warrant they're wearing incorrectly.
Speaker 1: You know, defenders messed up. But then I'll just pay
Speaker 1: you for the tie ride. You know in the staring
Speaker 1: component that I messed up. Well, I just broke tyrode. No,
Speaker 1: this is what happens years and years once you break
Speaker 1: a ty rode. For me, eventually the tires were bad,
Speaker 1: the arm can't get broke, the ground could hit hit
Speaker 1: the fender, knocked the fender off, knock a bumper off.
Speaker 1: For me, it could call. You could actually get hurt
Speaker 1: in the car. You're going to a barrier. So that's
Speaker 1: the problem. When you start back at slavery and then
Speaker 1: you move into affirmative action, you know, like is that
Speaker 1: really America putting his best foot forward to say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, we were wrong? You know, I don't
Speaker 1: think so, because it became for everybody in the first place.
Speaker 1: When I don't think you can buy lgbt Q slaves,
Speaker 1: I don't think you buy white women slaves. So if
Speaker 1: that was the idea, which I don't believe it was,
Speaker 1: I think again, it became more about them. I just
Speaker 1: said this yesterday. People exert entirely too much energy into
Speaker 1: looking like a good person instead of just being a
Speaker 1: good person. So it takes a lot of energy into
Speaker 1: half a good person. You're trying to look like you are,
Speaker 1: and only the best evil and only the best evils
Speaker 1: ken the disguise is good. M So I don't think
Speaker 1: it's about you know, when we talk about affirmative action,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's about white folks trying to like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, is this gonna help the black community versus, hey,
Speaker 1: did you do all you can do to rectify what
Speaker 1: you feel is wrong? And if you don't feel it's wrong,
Speaker 1: you know, if America excuse me, not white folk, but America,
Speaker 1: if America doesn't feel it's wrong, you know, just say hey,
Speaker 1: you know what it ain't wrong. If you do think
Speaker 1: it's wrong and you frown upon it, put your best
Speaker 1: foot forward into correcting the mistake. That way, at least
Speaker 1: you have a clear conscience. And I think America doesn't
Speaker 1: have a clear conscience. And I think a lot of
Speaker 1: times if we start to say so, if I start
Speaker 1: to say, well, you know what, it's on a black
Speaker 1: parents to do right by their kids, that's an end
Speaker 1: culture conversation. Like right, Pete, if I take you to
Speaker 1: the projects, we can have that conversation with the parents.
Speaker 1: But that's not an outer culture conversation. See, the conversation
Speaker 1: is about America, you know, making it right, the inner
Speaker 1: culture conversation when when with it ourselves, is us doing
Speaker 1: like Pete, like like sel saying us doing the best
Speaker 1: we can or like you sent us doing the best
Speaker 1: we can within But then it's still a real different
Speaker 1: kind of fight because you're still talking about getting First off,
Speaker 1: my mom made me go to Pair my high school
Speaker 1: because then' even have a P classes to get over
Speaker 1: a fourth point or I had to go to Paramount
Speaker 1: just to have a chance to have over five, you know,
Speaker 1: to have a five point. Though they have a P
Speaker 1: class that contonor centennial. So you're talking about you know,
Speaker 1: Centennio got uncredited, like I forgot how you how do
Speaker 1: you put you know, what do you call it? But
Speaker 1: like they went through a lot of ships that the
Speaker 1: education and programs are not really great there. So it's
Speaker 1: not as simple as us cracking a whip on each
Speaker 1: other and be like, hey, get aids and make it work.
Speaker 1: Because you you're fighting the environment, You're fighting the things
Speaker 1: that's already all of you set the standard and the expectation.
Speaker 1: I've noticed what kids and I's where to God, if
Speaker 1: you give your kids a standard and you said of
Speaker 1: standing for him, they won't never let you down. Bro.
Speaker 1: But you can't wait for an that stands like I remember,
Speaker 1: it would be a turn of man to where Let's
Speaker 1: say Jackson brought me the port card home. It could
Speaker 1: be all ages in that one. See she's so focused
Speaker 1: on that. See bro, that's like, you know, like we
Speaker 1: fix this, you know what I'm saying. So I didn't
Speaker 1: have to yell at my kids about braids because I
Speaker 1: said the standard in the house and I made him
Speaker 1: like a challenge. You don't challenge yourself, don't be just
Speaker 1: the regular. Because I would take my keys places due
Speaker 1: and I would show them without an education. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be the type of life. You do that, but
Speaker 1: also still looking at how much you've conquered on your
Speaker 1: own before you had your first kid, moving out to
Speaker 1: California from Ohio to come play football. You blessed with size,
Speaker 1: you blessed with gift, and you're a worker. So you
Speaker 1: work your ass off. You make that work, get your
Speaker 1: college education. You you you realize your dream of hip
Speaker 1: hop America is not wanting to accept you know whatever
Speaker 1: they think if you as a hip hop So you're
Speaker 1: gonna take it around the world and then they praise
Speaker 1: your talent and you make a living. You get into
Speaker 1: suburban part of Los Angeles, a suburban part of Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: feel me, where they have much better educational things. It
Speaker 1: changes the whole dynamic because of you, right whatever God
Speaker 1: putting you to make it work, and you working at
Speaker 1: it over and over again. That is not something like
Speaker 1: the slave ship didn't break everybody. It broke most people
Speaker 1: didn't know. The biggest thing with us broke with our people.
Speaker 1: We can't be scared to fail no one. Now you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do be schub for sure, process. It was
Speaker 1: a necessary part of the process. Though if you think
Speaker 1: anybody out there has just jumped off the ports with
Speaker 1: an idea and just winning off the rip ain't been
Speaker 1: through some ship for y'all got like fucked up. But
Speaker 1: but that's what That's what I was saying to you,
Speaker 1: Pete last year was having a conversation somewhere like this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, if you see certain people's parents, man
Speaker 1: like certain homies like my homies parents, and you look
Speaker 1: at my parents, is different, Like we're starting with something
Speaker 1: totally different. Feel me. One of my homies his mom
Speaker 1: was on drugs. My mom used to feed him. You
Speaker 1: mean like it's it's a real tough out I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think that begs the question. Like you say your environment, well,
Speaker 1: your environment is like you're like you as a as
Speaker 1: a one human being individual, have your have your environment.
Speaker 1: It's around you. If you're if you're broadening the scope
Speaker 1: to like a community, all the community's environment, well they
Speaker 1: are the environment there there and they are their environment.
Speaker 1: But but that's my point when you when you take
Speaker 1: how people got fractured alone, this challenge alone, this journey,
Speaker 1: because people are fractured, right, they fractured coming out of
Speaker 1: slave generations are fractured. You just gotta believe it. It's
Speaker 1: it's a hard thing to believe. But you know, if
Speaker 1: if prime example, if you're a great great great great
Speaker 1: grandfather removed, your great great great grandfather, your great great grandfather,
Speaker 1: your great grandfather, your grandfather, and your father all went
Speaker 1: to the military, you're probably gonna go to the military
Speaker 1: for sure. All so, how people deal with everything coming
Speaker 1: down the pipe is important, if that makes sense, it's important.
Speaker 1: I'm not at all pushing back like the question, like
Speaker 1: you were using a car example, and that's I think
Speaker 1: half the conversation. I think the other half of the
Speaker 1: conversation is another car example. It's like a lady who
Speaker 1: doesn't have the money to get the car fixed but
Speaker 1: has to go to work and drives the car and
Speaker 1: drives the car and drives the car and instead of
Speaker 1: being a small thing, now say a very huge thing
Speaker 1: and she can't for to keep the car or fix
Speaker 1: the car and saying, well, I had to drive because
Speaker 1: of blah blah blah, amidst the conversation about what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do about the car and transportations like you
Speaker 1: can talk about what ruined the car. But that's not
Speaker 1: going to get you to work, you know, that's why.
Speaker 1: But that's why I said, I think these are two
Speaker 1: different conversations, and they are. I think there's a conversation
Speaker 1: within the community, and I think there's a conversation that
Speaker 1: America should be having about the community. That's the trick.
Speaker 1: The conversation America has about the community, This is the dirty,
Speaker 1: dark truth. The conversation that America has about the community
Speaker 1: is rooted purely on the fact that America thinks that
Speaker 1: the individuals that comprise that community are to this day
Speaker 1: deficient and need to be given minuscule help all the time.
Speaker 1: And you give them some minuscule helpfully better off slightly
Speaker 1: than they are, but they can only be slightly better off,
Speaker 1: and they currently are. And that's the problem with the
Speaker 1: with the conversation of the country is is that the
Speaker 1: absumptive ceiling within the community is low. So we're only
Speaker 1: gonna do a little bit because they're only gonna be
Speaker 1: able to get up a little bit. Anyway, that's the
Speaker 1: cancerous conversation. That's the left. That's the left for sure. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what the conversation America needs to be having
Speaker 1: as the reparations. But that's my point. See, and I
Speaker 1: think Pete is different for you, right because you'd have
Speaker 1: been around right you haven't been in the community enough
Speaker 1: to have certain thoughts right now. Again, you're not a
Speaker 1: black person, but you haven't been around enough the community
Speaker 1: to know the thoughts. You can see a little bit
Speaker 1: more than most people that can come from your background
Speaker 1: can see. But I think that's the difference. I think
Speaker 1: there's two conversations that we having should be having. One
Speaker 1: conversation within the community is what we can do to
Speaker 1: better it. Second conversation should be had in America to
Speaker 1: what should we do to clear our conscious as much
Speaker 1: as we can of the wrong that's happened to these
Speaker 1: people And if they feel like they're conscious is clear,
Speaker 1: just say hey, y'all on your own, Like say it
Speaker 1: so people can realize they're on their own and whatever
Speaker 1: blowback you get, that's like if I break your car, Pete,
Speaker 1: or if I break Steal's car and still looking at me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm acting like I really care about helping
Speaker 1: them fix the car because I broke it. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: driving is getting worse than Raggy, but all on still
Speaker 1: from me breaking his car, and the whole time, I'm like, look, man,
Speaker 1: I'm helping me. So I fix the tire and the
Speaker 1: tire wearing bad, but I fixed tied you know it, rag,
Speaker 1: I fixed defended. But I never decide to actually fix
Speaker 1: the problem. I never go through everything that I know
Speaker 1: I caused this problem. But I'm stringing him alone like yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna help you fix it. I'm gonna help you
Speaker 1: fix it, versus just trying their best to fix it,
Speaker 1: not trying to look like they're trying to help fix it,
Speaker 1: but really trying their best to be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna buy you another car.
Speaker 1: Nigger here, boom done. All the while he's waiting around
Speaker 1: and waiting around and not fixing it himself to fix it.
Speaker 1: But that's the conversation I should be having with Still
Speaker 1: und you don't know. I'm saying, we're in the same place.
Speaker 1: I should be telling Still, hey, Still, you need to
Speaker 1: fix your car. Yeah stuff. I should be telling him, like,
Speaker 1: you know that motherfucker's not gonna fix your car. Well,
Speaker 1: he keep telling me to help me fix my car.
Speaker 1: It don't matter what that motherfucker's saying we know how
Speaker 1: this motherfucker work. Here, I'll you some money fixed. You
Speaker 1: know it's tough, But to me, the conversation within the
Speaker 1: community should be about how we can make it better.
Speaker 1: The conversation with about America that should be having in
Speaker 1: america's what should we do for these people that we
Speaker 1: take advantages. Even if the whitest white man Fimmy didn't
Speaker 1: own slave his family, he take advantage of all the
Speaker 1: things that slavery built in this country. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean so that should be a conversation Pete should be
Speaker 1: having because Pete made Let's say peace family did own slave.
Speaker 1: Let's say Pete family came over here in the nineteendreds
Speaker 1: or eighteen eighty after slavery. Right, Let's say Pete family
Speaker 1: came over here. Let's say Pete came over here and
Speaker 1: and Pete family came at a ten eighty nine and
Speaker 1: they never owned slaves. But he understands that he's the
Speaker 1: benefactor of all the things slavery built. He should be
Speaker 1: having a conversation like, hey, y'all, motherfucker's American needs to
Speaker 1: make it right because y'all fuck these people over. That's
Speaker 1: the conversation that be going on that way, and within
Speaker 1: our conversation, our conversations should be like how can we
Speaker 1: exit amongst each other? But it should be two separate
Speaker 1: conversations happening. And the problem is that not there's four
Speaker 1: conversations happening. Too many conversations. Is you have America trying
Speaker 1: to tell black people to fix their own problem instead
Speaker 1: of literally saying, let me fix what I broke. And
Speaker 1: you have black people looking at America acting like they're
Speaker 1: gonna do the right thing when that's something they gotta
Speaker 1: work out on their own. Mhm, Well you know what, man,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this thing. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys can see this on here, so that on there. Man,
Speaker 1: What they were pretty much saying is, um, they think
Speaker 1: a fair number would be a hundred and fifty one
Speaker 1: million dollars per person. That's ridiculous, Suny just threw it away.
Speaker 1: But listen to what I'm saying though, of course it's
Speaker 1: a bullshit, right. I don't know if you could put
Speaker 1: a price on that, bro I mean you have to,
Speaker 1: like any other business venture, you know, but you know,
Speaker 1: for somebody to say okay, they would get a hute
Speaker 1: million dollars I would be surprised due we bounded up
Speaker 1: getting a hundred to be honest, with a hundred, what
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised you if they played as like
Speaker 1: that to try to give us a hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a piece of something. I mean if if literally yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to say, like, let's it's different because
Speaker 1: time matters. The ultimate expiring commodity in the universe's time, right,
Speaker 1: So there's a difference between me getting a hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars over a lifetime and a hundred thousand dollars tomorrow,
Speaker 1: you know, at the price, the cost, everything is different.
Speaker 1: So it's like that whole conversation muddies the situation and
Speaker 1: using like, for example, what was nineteenth or eighteenth century
Speaker 1: aggro labor fair market value globally it was like an
Speaker 1: the equivalent of four or five sense a day and
Speaker 1: today's money. Well, we're gonna we're gonna use that standard
Speaker 1: of time and compet against today's standard of time at
Speaker 1: minimum wage and like all these various different elements that
Speaker 1: because if you were paying all those people at that
Speaker 1: time there, it wouldn't have been it wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: an economic equivalent of what today's minimum wages. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like that anywhere in the world. There was nowhere in
Speaker 1: the world where people working on a farm anywhere had
Speaker 1: surplus capital. Ship's not one now true, not working on
Speaker 1: the farm. Yeah, if you have to own it. So
Speaker 1: it's like that, it becomes a very very muddy. Plus
Speaker 1: you're talking about like population expansion, like your great great
Speaker 1: great grandfather's one person his total offspring by over all
Speaker 1: those generations like sixty people. Mm hm, you know. So
Speaker 1: it's like the math, the math on that becomes like
Speaker 1: a really really prolonged and convoluted standard of trying to
Speaker 1: come down with a number for that. So people, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this, you being a white man with
Speaker 1: obvious African American friends, m hm, would it be honest?
Speaker 1: Would it piss you off? If they see it? Next week,
Speaker 1: we're sending every African American in the in the country.
Speaker 1: It's over the age of motherfucker eight team check for
Speaker 1: two billion dollars, right, two billion dollars. Oh good listen
Speaker 1: and everybody everybody under a team. They can have me
Speaker 1: and it's all tax free. Right, you said two million
Speaker 1: with an emma, right, Yeah, said to be about say,
Speaker 1: holy shit, to millions, we is now Ukraine? Would you
Speaker 1: be upset? And it feels some kind of one. The
Speaker 1: only thing in my world that obsessed me with regard
Speaker 1: to anything as far as black people go, is when
Speaker 1: I think that they don't do their is when they
Speaker 1: don't pursue the goal whichever individual has to the best
Speaker 1: of their ability. That's the only thing that will ever
Speaker 1: bother me. Like I was saying before, America looks at
Speaker 1: the group is having a very low ceiling, I do not.
Speaker 1: I could walk down to watch and look at somebody
Speaker 1: and I could feel disappointed in them. Another person self
Speaker 1: righteous in Manhattan or San Francisco is gonna walk down
Speaker 1: there and they're not gonna look disappointed them, because that's
Speaker 1: what they expect of them. The only problem I would
Speaker 1: have if all my friends got two million dollars would
Speaker 1: be the fact that I know the collateral economic damage
Speaker 1: would be severe and I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: sustain it and up in a vacuum, like if there
Speaker 1: was complet no damage. But let's talk about that. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the because that's that's a point I wanted
Speaker 1: to touch on. Let's talk about the possible economic rammar
Speaker 1: fork everybody. You know, let's say we gotta do the
Speaker 1: podcast throw Let's say sixty thousand people get a check
Speaker 1: for two million dollars thousand hypothetical, you know, let's say
Speaker 1: sixty people get checked two million dollars other ones. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure you're not gonna give everybody the same thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, a million times? So
Speaker 1: just think about that. What do you think? I was
Speaker 1: just doing the math right there? Sixties album? Is that
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty that's at one point two trillion?
Speaker 1: Or is that twelve? Is that twelve trillion? No? Well, hold,
Speaker 1: let me say if it's two million times six is twelve? No,
Speaker 1: two million times sixties twelve? Two million times six is
Speaker 1: one twenty. Yeah, that's a lot of money. So what
Speaker 1: was it? Two million times sixty thousand? Yeah, that's easy.
Speaker 1: That's a hundred billion. But that's a chunk of money.
Speaker 1: But the numbers like forty million, you know, not sixty thousand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, what kind of impact? Just this is for
Speaker 1: all our people out there right, so they can know
Speaker 1: because I don't think people understand that. First of all,
Speaker 1: you have to have something behind that you want to do.
Speaker 1: Look at what happened with E. D. D. If they
Speaker 1: want to know the rondavacations, it wasn't nowhere near close
Speaker 1: to that. Look at where money is. Look how look
Speaker 1: how cheap money is now? Look how bad? Look how
Speaker 1: much everything costs now because of it? Now is a
Speaker 1: great time to have that conversation. Now is the only
Speaker 1: time in our lifetime that we can have that conversation.
Speaker 1: Listeners would understand and fear. And really, I'm tell you,
Speaker 1: if it could pretty much turn the United States and
Speaker 1: in the Philippines hopefully hopefully would become the Philippines, I'm
Speaker 1: feeling it more become like Rwanda in the nineties because
Speaker 1: listen to what I'm saying, bro, think about this right,
Speaker 1: and I would sixty tho is way too little though
Speaker 1: we well it maybe like why a triple that you know?
Speaker 1: But think about this, right, You got all this money
Speaker 1: out there, everybody's spending come in, everybody spending money. You
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, Just like they had it to
Speaker 1: where um Like I was talking to my therapist of
Speaker 1: the day. She was telling me the Philippines, where she
Speaker 1: comes from, they made ten dollars a day. Yeah, Cuban
Speaker 1: guy traffic out of Cuba from here. Yeah, she told
Speaker 1: me that over and Um their country, a house like ours,
Speaker 1: we would probably pay two hundred a month by the beach.
Speaker 1: It would be by the beach, and you can pretty much.
Speaker 1: That's why a lot of people come over here and
Speaker 1: retire and go back there to live, you know, the
Speaker 1: days off, because they maybe get undred a month. That's
Speaker 1: twenty month. You may you may beat them almost in
Speaker 1: the homeless shelter out here a month over there you
Speaker 1: can live like in Queen for sure. But again like it.
Speaker 1: It's it's like the European health care system. Oh well,
Speaker 1: Europe pays all your health care bills. Well, they don't
Speaker 1: have enough doctors because they don't get any money to
Speaker 1: be a doctor out there. And the only reason that
Speaker 1: they have that ability is because the United States econmy
Speaker 1: props up their system because we pay for all the
Speaker 1: R and D and we send them all the mrs
Speaker 1: and they get all that from us. That's the only
Speaker 1: reason that it works is because of our economy. Our
Speaker 1: commy has leaches all over an internationally. Gotta have an
Speaker 1: asshole to do the work. Yeah, and I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you what I think would happen. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I think it would want to be. It will wind
Speaker 1: up being one of them type of situations, bro where
Speaker 1: we wouldn't get all that money in front anymore. They
Speaker 1: would wanted up telling people that would be over a
Speaker 1: certain amount of years, it would be paid over a
Speaker 1: certain amount of years. Uh. I just think, I just think.
Speaker 1: So what we'll do is we'll do another podcast on
Speaker 1: let's all take a day or two to figure out um,
Speaker 1: let's take a day or two to all figure out.
Speaker 1: We take one day. Still, you're recovering from surgery, Jazz,
Speaker 1: we take a we take a day. We're recovering from surgery.
Speaker 1: You know you recovering surgery beat you by to day.
Speaker 1: Let's take a day to figure out um realistic, realistic
Speaker 1: uh repair a repair system for black folk in America
Speaker 1: that that already dismended the slaveous amount of work on this.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to rock on this. This. No, we're gonna
Speaker 1: figure out amicable solutions that can happen right now. We're
Speaker 1: gonna all take a day or two and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna convene back on the pot. We're gonna have like
Speaker 1: a we don't have a council. We're gonna commit We're
Speaker 1: gonna commission the council, like the counselor not Sea, to
Speaker 1: come up with this godly like solution for this the
Speaker 1: frantic people that are apart, and this is gonna be
Speaker 1: the solution to bring everybody back together. And it's going
Speaker 1: to be fair and wise, and it's going to allow
Speaker 1: America to still be America. They're looking out for tuning
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