1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: All right, our next guest defends his title in the 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: headlining bout of UFC two seventy three in Jacksonville, Florida. 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: That'll be April ninth, although if you're watching and this 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: is Australia, it'll be April tenth in your neck of 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: the woods. It's the featherweight champion himself, Alex Volkanowski. Hi, Alex, 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: how are you? 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: I'm very good man, I'm I'm good. 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm very delighted to talk to you. All right, Alex, 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: let's start with this part of the conversation. When you 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: very first begin to train, as all fighters do, you're 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: just learning techniques, how to throw a jab, defend a 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: double blah blah blah. But over time you learn what 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: works for you and you develop a more cohesive style. Right, 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: you have a certain style. Now, at what point in 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: your fighting journey did you realize you were going to 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: end up with the style that you're using to both 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: win and maintain UFC championship. When did you get to 18 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: that point? 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: Man? 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: It's it's tricky because I have a time I just 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: said slightly changes. You know, you're you're a lot of 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: it's going to be a similar, similar, Sorry, approach of 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: how I mold things together and things like that. But 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: at the same time, you add like middle tools and 25 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: like you look at fights earlier in my career compared 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: to now, you're probably going to see a more striking 27 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: heavy side of things, but still the same rules apply 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 3: in a sense, like you know, with the pressure and 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 3: you know obviously scrambling the brain and all that type 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: of sort of stuff. But man, I don't know's it's 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: something something to me and me and Joe my coach 32 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: at Joe Lopez, just we've just molded together, Like you know, 33 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: I think it's just through through time and training together. 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: It's sort of hard to explain because I know exactly 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: what you're talking about. But at the same time, I 36 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: couldn't tell you. I couldn't pick a day when that happened, 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: but I mean, fruit time we could. Just That's what 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: a lot of people say. What's something that's like, you know, 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: because me and Joe are so close, you know what 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: is it? It's just he knows me. Nobody knows me 41 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: better than my coach car Lopez, So you know, my host, 42 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: you know my whole stall like, and nobody knows my 43 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: style style more than more than Joe, and that's something 44 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 3: that we've molded together free time. 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: You know. 46 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: It might not be the craziest techniques, uh you know, 47 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: spin shit and all that type of stuff, but the 48 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: right tool for the right. 49 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: Job, you know what I mean. That's how I am. 50 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: You know, I'll have a look, see see what's happening, 51 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: and pick my shots and just scramble their brain while 52 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: I'm doing it. 53 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: I want to get back to the scrambling of the 54 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: brain part. But staying with your coach, Joe Lopez for 55 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: just a second. So in boxing, you'll have certain kinds 56 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: of coaches where you know, for example, when Tyson Fury 57 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: went to the Cronc gym, he was looking for something 58 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: that that gym was known to offer, that style, so 59 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: to speak, was known to offer. But other coaches are like, 60 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: let's just take what you're good at and make it 61 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: more of that. So do other Joe Lopez fighters fight 62 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: kind of like you or are unique? Even among Joe 63 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Lopez fighters. 64 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: Definitely see definitely similar. Yeah, yeah, I think it's more 65 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: of a more of a style. We obviously trained hard. 66 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: You know, we've got all you need to be pretty 67 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 4: tough to be able to put up with we do 68 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: in the gym, you know what I mean, and the 69 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: standard we have when you're obviously you know, in the 70 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 4: workouts and things like that. 71 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's pretty similar. 72 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 3: We definitely have a similar sort of a style a 73 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: lot of us. But then you're right, like you know, 74 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: there are times where you know, we would go to 75 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: other gyms and then you would obviously pick up certain things. 76 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: We've always been a more of a. 77 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: Grappling heavy type of gym, so we're you know, wrestling 78 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: grappling heavy and pressure type of gym where obviously you go. 79 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: To other gyms like I've been a Thai land, you know. 80 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: When you know, working on your muy thai and things 81 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: like that, and then obviously city kickboxing with some striking 82 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: and things like that. But again just adding tools to 83 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: this formula that we've sort of created. 84 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: All right, let's get back now. As I mentioned to 85 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: the scrambling of the brands part. So this is something 86 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: in your style that has been really fascinating to watch 87 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: because it has worked at the very highest level over 88 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: numerous times. Like there's simply no denying the body of 89 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: evidence at this point. Fair to say for folks women 90 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: to understand what we're talking about. Fair to say that 91 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: among your many things that you do with your style, 92 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: one of them is you force opponents to compute a 93 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: series of decisions in a certain timeframe that they can't 94 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: possibly compute. You're you're asking them to problem solve by 95 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: reading clues and then changing the game as soon as 96 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: they do. Fair or unfair. 97 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, that's a that's you know, you 98 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: will see a lot of movement. But on the top 99 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: of guy that, obviously I'm playing what was in front 100 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 3: of me as well, there's going to be reads I'm getting, uh, 101 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: you know, we've got to give you too much away, 102 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: or there's going to be openings that I'm going to 103 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: see while i'm you know, definitely, you know, scrambling and 104 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: keeping them busy. And you know, even though they might 105 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: be thinking they're making the right decisions on picking them 106 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: off while they're making these decisions that they think is 107 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: the right or they might not even make a decision. 108 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: They might just be habits that they're doing we're picking 109 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: up on and we're making them pay for. 110 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: So it's a yeah, man, it's a it's a. 111 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: Tricky one, but I mean, it's you know, it's like 112 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: a when you train like that, it. 113 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 3: Comes a part of your style rather than something that 114 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: you know, each step on do, each fake I do, 115 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: each movement I do isn't really a I'm going to 116 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: do this because of this I'm going to you know 117 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: what I mean, It's going to be hard to obviously 118 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: process things while I'm doing a million things at once, 119 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I've built that into this 120 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: game that I have where it's a part of the 121 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: style rather than there's something that I have to do. 122 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: So while I'm scrambling their brain as a part of 123 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: my style, right I am getting reads, I'm picking off 124 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: openings and things like that, and yeah, so it's a. 125 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: It's definitely a big part of it, you. 126 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. 127 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: You'll see, you know a lot of people that are 128 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: why you. 129 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: Know, you shut them down nullifi a lot of things 130 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: that they're doing through things that we do and then 131 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 3: take the openings that are given, you know, scramble their Brian, 132 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: scramble the Brian. Look how long am running from jetlag? 133 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: I'm not confusing myself as we speak right now. 134 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate you working through that, Jeff. Well, here's why 135 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: I think it's just so interesting, right, I mean, this 136 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: is why that style works because it's built off of 137 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: something unchangeable, which is they're even the smartest person, even 138 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: the very best fighter, there is only so much that 139 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: the human brain can compute in a single amount of time, 140 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: five seconds, ten seconds, whatever it is. There's only so 141 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: much computation that can happen in that so you can 142 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: rely on that as something that biology just will not 143 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: fix for your opponent. And then on top of it, 144 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: once they begin to think, oh, I've watched tape on Alex, 145 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: I've seen he likes these combos, you can simply switch 146 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: up all the combos to something new and the style 147 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: still works. 148 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. 149 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: So it's funny because people are gonna be on going 150 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: to do this because of this, but they don't realize 151 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 3: my style is if you do this, I do you 152 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: know what I mean, I've usually got different answers for 153 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 3: whatever your answers are going to be, you know what 154 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: I mean. So that's like, I know, you guys have 155 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: dived right into it, so you guys are good understanding 156 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: of it. So there's always a layers of it, you 157 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: know what I mean. You give me something. There's going 158 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: to be a few options. 159 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: That I can take from there, you know, where a 160 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: lot of people like, oh, he's going to do this. 161 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: Obviously there's going to be habits. 162 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: Everyone has habits, but I feel like in an offense 163 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: and defense, I try not to have too many habits, 164 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I'm constantly change of things. 165 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to be very repetitive, you know what 166 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: I mean, because you know, people can get reads. So 167 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: while people are trying to get reads, they just can't 168 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: keep up because I'm keeping them too busy. I'm changing 169 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: things up too much for them, and then I'm making 170 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: them pay. Every time, you know, they think they might. 171 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: Be getting to read or something like that, I quickly 172 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: change it and be like, oh, you know. 173 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: And you can see that, honestly. You can see that 174 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: in some of your ponent's faces. You know, even early 175 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: in the fights, and you know they might be thinking 176 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: they're doing something and they're like, you know, you could 177 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: just see them like trying to figure it out, and 178 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: then they're just almost you know, their face is just emotionals, 179 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: like you know, what sort of what's going on. 180 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: It's hard to explain, but you can see that sometimes. 181 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: So again, people are going to have a game plan 182 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: going in and then I can quickly take that away 183 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: from him. 184 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: All right, So last question about this, what is the 185 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: hardest part about that style? Right, because it seems like 186 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: you have to have a lot of good cardio, you know, 187 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: just to be able to implement it. The other part 188 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: is I've seen a lot of other people in MMA 189 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: that do a lot of moving, but it's not as convincing. 190 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: So it also seems to be like part of your 191 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: style is you got to have a good cardio obviously, 192 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: but you have to be a convincing salesman of the 193 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: fakes and the fence. Otherwise you're just moving to move. 194 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: Is that is that accurate? Yeah? 195 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: Man, you can move and then just for the sake 196 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: of it. But I mean you can move and be 197 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: calculating your movements and not every mood. Like you know, 198 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: every movement doesn't have to be a big reaction from 199 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 3: your opponent. 200 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: But I mean it can be just again, like it 201 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: can be a part of the confusion. 202 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: It can be a part of a certain thing that 203 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: you're doing just to maybe change up later, you know 204 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: what I mean. There's there's still purpose to things that 205 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: I'm doing where some people just move for the fake 206 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 3: for the sake of it. You'll see them out of 207 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: range and then just constantly moving where I feel like 208 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: it's very like, what's the point of being way out 209 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: because you can't do nothing there and they can't do 210 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: nothing there. You're just purely moving for the sake of it. 211 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: Where it's sort of hard explained. But at the same time, 212 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: I want to be even though i feel like I'm 213 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: doing a lot of movement, I've at a good range, 214 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: I still feel like I'm putting the pressure on because 215 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: I'm still at a at a spot where they. 216 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: Know I can touch them because I have and things 217 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: like that. 218 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 3: But at the same time, while they're trying to just 219 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 3: I'm like keeping them on edge, just constantly keeping them 220 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: on the edge. 221 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: I've got to you know this is something because you're touching. 222 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 3: On it before and again. I know you guys, I 223 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: like to dive deep in it. But someone like Aldo 224 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: was a good, good example, and I think he will 225 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: appreciate this, where he's so well trained, where every movement, 226 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: you know, he's always in the perfect position. You know, 227 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: like you know you you move an inch to the left, 228 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: he's going to have to. He has to adjust and 229 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: be that perfect. You move an inch back, he's an 230 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: inch forward. You know, he's always there. He's always where, 231 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: he's most where, you know, the range is comfortable at 232 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 3: the base. You know, he's grounded, he's powerful, he's balanced, 233 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: he's always there. 234 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 2: So it's very hard. 235 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: To get him out of position, you know what I mean, 236 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: because he's always adjusting. But something that we used against him, 237 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 3: knowing that if I go somewhere, he has to adjust 238 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: and he's not even going to mean it, He's just 239 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 3: going to do it as a you know, that's just 240 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: going to be a part of a That's just how 241 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: his system works, you know what I mean. 242 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 2: I moved to the left, he has to adjust. 243 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: So as he's moving to the left, I'm getting him 244 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: as he's as he's going getting to that spot and 245 00:10:58,720 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: things like that, you know what I mean. 246 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: So that was a good example of you know, calculated movements, 247 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 248 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: So I'm doing these movements to keep them busy, not 249 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: giving them trying to you know, give him time. This 250 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: is for for our the specifically, because again you stand 251 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: in front of him and let him work. Is obviously 252 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: counterpunches it was powerful to it was in the perfect position, 253 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: but I just wanted to always get him out of position, 254 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: which was hard, but that's why you had. 255 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 2: To keep him moving. And then go, I think. 256 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: You use this term of in between steps. 257 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so like you know, just things like that. 258 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: So it was a that was a. 259 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 3: Good example of using again, Like these people like they 260 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: think they're doing the right thing. Yeah, they don't even 261 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: know that they're they're doing that. They're they're trying to 262 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: figure things out, they. 263 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: Don't really know that. 264 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: I'm keeping so occupied with what I'm doing and then 265 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: pick my shots as I go, so they literally and 266 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: then by the end of it they're like, oh, I 267 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: don't know what happened, you know. 268 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: What I mean. I was like going, yeah, I do, 269 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: I know exactly what happened, that's exactly. 270 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, so it's a again, there's gonna be movement, 271 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: there's gonna be reasons for that movement, you know what 272 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: I mean. 273 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: There's there's gonna be effort to that madness. Right, you 274 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: don't want to just be moving for the sake of it. 275 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: You're moving not even knowing what you're gonna do, and 276 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: then you don't even know what they're gonna do. 277 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: But you're just moving just so you're not standing still. 278 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: I probably would say to someone that was just doing that, 279 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 3: you may as well stay still so you're more dangerous 280 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: in power, you know. 281 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: What I mean? 282 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: If you're gonna just be constantly moving just for the 283 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 3: sake of it, not really knowing what to do with it, 284 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: because you're going to be putting yourself out of position, 285 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard to count, it's going to be 286 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 3: how to take. 287 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: Down, defend, takedown, it's going. 288 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: To be hard to do all that type of stuff 289 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: because you're getting yourself out of position because you're not 290 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: being calculated in your your approach of that movement. 291 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: Which of your wins usually have many good ones? Obviously 292 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: the last one or Tego was that okay, so let's 293 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: start there. The Ortega win, to me, seems like one 294 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: of those wins where, in terms of what the fan 295 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: base and the larger community thought about, it was unimpeachable, right. 296 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: There was just no way to deny you that one. 297 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Which of your other wins do you feel like perhaps 298 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: is not deserving of the respect that against you bring 299 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: up Aldo, That's one of the wins that I feel 300 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: like really pushed you on the path to where you 301 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: got and no one says anything bad about it, but 302 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't know they herald it as important as it was. 303 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: Where do you look on that. 304 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: Scale, that's probably that's probably one right there, because that 305 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: was that was still a while ago as well. 306 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: So that was me with that movement and all that. 307 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: It wasn't a big part of my game at the time, 308 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 3: and I was sort of get used to that style, 309 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: right And so with that fight, obviously to. 310 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: Nullify someone like Aldo, again, people aren't going. 311 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: To really see They're not going to know the things 312 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: that were the details that I'm explaining to you, and 313 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: that you might have seen a lot of the people 314 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: might not understand that. They're just going to see that 315 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: not as much happened, but they don't really understand the 316 00:13:59,160 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: technique and. 317 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: The strategy behind what I what I was doing. 318 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: But it was it was a good one because I 319 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: felt like I had to play a character that whole fight, 320 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it was I was 321 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 3: on edge as well because again this movement was sort 322 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: of new to me at the time, and. 323 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: Keep them busy and all that type of stuff, and 324 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: like I had. 325 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: To do that because I know if I stand still 326 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: and give him time to do his thing, that's where 327 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: I can get caught where you know, that's where things 328 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: can go back from me. Especially with out though and 329 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: you know, my my my taxi, it's gonna be a 330 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: lot easier for him to counter and things like that. 331 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: So I was like playing a character, if that makes sense. 332 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: I was doing that. 333 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: I wasn't really used to, but I had to to 334 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: keep out there occupied where again, a lot of people 335 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: aren't going to really understand that, But that's something that 336 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: for me was a big guy open. I went in 337 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: there with a certain approach, with a game plan. Obviously 338 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: you're gonna have a lot of game plans, but that 339 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: was like a very big game plan that sort of 340 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: felt at the time way out of my comfort zone. 341 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: I feel comfortable because that's just the topic I'm gonna 342 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to adjust and I'll make it happen, but 343 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: it was It was definitely a weird one for me 344 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: to just try and keep that up for three rounds 345 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: against someone like Alder, which is pretty impressive. 346 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's a coming out how I. 347 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: Want to know if you're understanding exactly what I'm what 348 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: I'm regurgitating right now, But it was it was definitely 349 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: a big one for me. 350 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: I thought, fair enough, is it? Is it it all 351 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: frustrating that there's a certain kind of brilliance to what 352 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: you're doing that. Yes, maybe perhaps insiders pick up on 353 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure other fighters and coaches really admire it, but 354 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: perhaps some of the larger casualness of the fan base can't. 355 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: Isn't it all frustrating? There's a bit of a gap. 356 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: It was frustrating. It was frustrating for me. It used 357 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: to be frustrating with something that I paid way too 358 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: much attention to. But right now, yeah, I've changed that, 359 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I don't look into the 360 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: negatives anymore, which I'll be honest, I was way too 361 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: I was. 362 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: I looked into that way too much. 363 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 3: You know, I was paying way too much attention to 364 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: to the negatives and I was letting it. You make 365 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: me do wrong decisions and things like that. You know 366 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: what I mean, I'd let it. There's too much weight 367 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: behind these negative comments when you know I shouldn't even 368 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: be paying attention to these. You know, you hear this 369 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: time and time again. Everyone knows you know, I leave 370 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: worried about you know, all that type of stuff. Easier 371 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: said than done, even at the top of something that 372 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: I was still always struggling. But right now, you know, 373 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: really really now that So right now I don't care. 374 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: People can think what they want, you know, I know 375 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: that there's still still a lot of love out there, 376 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: and I'm just going to pay attention to that, you 377 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So but again, obviously after that 378 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: last one was definitely different, but after this one is 379 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: going to be different again, I can guarantee you that. 380 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: Fair enough, let's talk about this. What does you've beaten 381 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: Max Hollywood? You've beaten Ortega, You've beaten Aldo Mendez. List 382 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: goes on from there. What does a win over the 383 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: Korean zombie do for your resume? 384 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: Uh, this is a bit of a legacy. 385 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: I just purely because you know, he's who was talking 386 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 3: to the other day and someone was saying about his 387 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: last title show was like nine years ago, like he's 388 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: a title shot with Aldo, and I was like, man, 389 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 3: I just started like then, you know what I mean, 390 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 3: I was like, still an amateur then, you know what 391 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: I mean? Like, so it's it shows you how long 392 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: he's been in the game and been at the top. 393 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: So this is a guy that's been at the top 394 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: of the featherweight division forever. So you look at the 395 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: legends in the featherweight division, he's one of them, you 396 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: know what I mean that I've taken out pretty much 397 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: most of them, you know, the guys that are you know, there's. 398 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: Not I won't be able to do all. 399 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 3: Of them, but I mean because some of them are 400 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: you know, probably way too far out of the picture. 401 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: But he's still in the picture now, he's still like 402 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: you know, he still took four top four, you know 403 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 3: what I mean, which is pretty incredible for for how 404 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 3: long he's been in the game, you know. So it's 405 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: a legacy far for me as somewha a feather in 406 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: the cap that you maybe thought wasn't going to happen, 407 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: but I mean, through injury. 408 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 2: And all that, it did happen. 409 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: And again I think he deserves it because he's been 410 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 3: at the top of the game since his division's been 411 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: been started in UFC. 412 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you reckon is perhaps every fighter has positives, 413 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: every fighter has negatives. He has weaknesses, he has strengths. 414 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: What are some of his strengths relative to previous opponents 415 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: you've had that you're certainly conscious of heading into April ninth, 416 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: you know. 417 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 3: Probably the again, a lot of guys you know, would 418 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: pull themselves a counterpuncher. 419 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: But I feel like he's sort of a type of 420 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: guy that. 421 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: He'll really rely on you coming in or like and 422 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: then you're catching you coming in rather than you know, 423 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: say with a counter like you know, making you miss 424 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 3: then firing one back. He will, you know, he will 425 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: try and make obviously miss. I'm not saying he's going 426 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: to let you hit him, but at the same time 427 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: he will he'll counter as you're coming in, so he 428 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: will eat one to give one type thing, you know 429 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 3: what I mean, which is always dangerous. But I mean 430 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: the beauty of that is is when am I coming in? 431 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: You know that's that's that's the question that he needs answer, 432 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I guess you you'd 433 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: know exactly. 434 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 2: What I mean by that. 435 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: So it's easy to count to someone that's uh going 436 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: to be pretty one dimensional and you're going to be 437 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 3: pretty obvious with their tax But we all know I'm 438 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 3: not obvious in my tax i trying not to be 439 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: obvious with my tacks, and yeah, but I mean again, 440 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 3: there's there's definitely some dangers there that that's why I 441 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: can't be careless. But at the same time, you know, 442 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: my style covers a lot of of uh you know, 443 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: these these areas very strong. 444 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: I think I nullify a lot that purely just my style. 445 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 1: Can you give US Americans a sense at home for 446 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: you in Australia, what it's like where you're where you're 447 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: at right now? Here's what I mean. We were on 448 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: my podcast today we were talking about George Cambosa's because 449 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: that Devin Haney fight a signed, they're going to bring 450 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: it to Melbourne. And you're a champion, and even for 451 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: the guys who are champion of Robert Worker who was 452 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: a champion and so on and so forth, can tie 453 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: to Ivasa who just had the biggest one of his career. 454 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: What is it like at this moment in Australia for 455 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: premier combat sports athletes? How how popular really is it? 456 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: And how much has your life changed? And in this 457 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: current day? 458 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean it's it's definitely It's always been big 459 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 3: in Australia, but you're seeing it every pay per view 460 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 3: seems to be getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 461 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: It's it's massive, you know. 462 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 3: I really think this whole lockdown COVID situation, especially the 463 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 3: UFC being the early sport going, I think that was 464 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: a massive well I guess it was massive globally right, 465 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 3: but I mean in Australia it really did go levels 466 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: above them, especially me being able to fight then, you know, 467 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 3: being the earlier life, I was the athlete and things 468 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: like that. 469 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: That was huge. A lot changed after that one, but 470 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: it's it's massive, you know what I mean. 471 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: It's again, we're not just numbers in the UFC now 472 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 3: where we're contenders and champions and you're seeing absolute studs 473 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: coming out of Australia and New Zealand area and these guys. 474 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: And you've got so many studs out of the UFC 475 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: right now that are coming through that. You know, you 476 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 3: go to watch little shows, local shows and I'm absolutely 477 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: blown away from when I was back in the shows, 478 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: the the technique and the you know, the the talent 479 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: that's there. You know what I mean, it's it's it's incredible. 480 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: So we obviously got a lot of kids we've brought 481 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: futures in the sport World. 482 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: Champ I don't want to keep it too much longer. 483 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: I know that you have we actually do you have 484 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: big plans for sight seeing in Jacksonville? 485 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. 486 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: Well, we're allowed out and about, which is a pretty 487 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: good but not in the bubble, which helps. 488 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know. 489 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 3: Now I've got a couple of days early while I'm 490 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 3: getting over this gent lag. Maybe go see see some 491 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 3: shit if we can, I guess. 492 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: But I don't know. What's there to say? You just 493 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: told me, I don't know. 494 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: Is that much? 495 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, friend, Yeah, there's some Here's the thing, Florida gets 496 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: a bit of a bad rap. There are some, definitely 497 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: some cool Florida cities. I just don't know if Jacksonville's 498 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: on that list, but I guess we'll see. All right, 499 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: Before you go real quick the co main event perion 500 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: Al Jamn Sterling, give me a sense of if you've 501 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: got a tingle about which way it's going to go 502 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: and what will decide the winner of that fight. 503 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: I mean, you have to go with Pete on just again, 504 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 3: like obviously you're looking at the last one. Obviously it 505 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: was unfortunate what happened, but you can see where that 506 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: fight was going. And just watching Peter know pd and 507 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 3: I trained with him, and uh, you know, he's so durable, 508 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You know he's got the cardio, 509 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 3: you know, he's got the heart. You know, you know 510 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: he's even the fight, he's got so many tools, you know, 511 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 3: like how can you bet against guys like that? 512 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: And let's like myself included. 513 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 3: I feel like we cover a lot of areas and 514 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: then you've got the skill on top of the top 515 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 3: of that as well. 516 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: So you know, I think that Sterling definitely had a 517 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 2: decent round in him. That that that first round here, 518 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 2: he had a lot of movement and all that, like 519 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: you know, But I mean at the same time, Pdon 520 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 2: will you know, he'll. 521 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 3: Be defensive heavy as he put that pressure on obviously 522 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: get reads, slow you down. 523 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: And you know, even if he has a good round in. 524 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: Him, Aljamin, I just think Pdon is just going to 525 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 3: take over within the first two rounds, you know what 526 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: I mean, And that that's it. And you know that's 527 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 3: even if al Jamaine can get going good at the 528 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: start and not again, I've got respectful Aljaman, but I 529 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: just made Peter John he's a he can fight. 530 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: He certainly can so can you. I can't wait to 531 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: see your next bout against the Korean Zombie Chance on 532 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: Jong April ninth, April tenth for the folks in Australia 533 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: from Jacksonville, Florida, Champion, Appreciate your time and then you've 534 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: got a busy schedule. Can't wait to see it. 535 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Y. Can't looking forward to your 536 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: your breakdown. This one's gonna be good, so you're gonna 537 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: absolutely love it. It's gonna be some new ones there 538 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: for you too. 539 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: Can't wait. Yeah, thank you so much. Thank you so much, Chap. 540 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I really do.