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Speaker 1: Today's guests on the show is newly named u c
Speaker 1: l L A Athletics Hall of Famer u c L
Speaker 1: A Basketball Legend. Tracy Murray is in the building. T Murray,
Speaker 1: what's up, Doc? You're doing on broad Day? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: back on K Day Live. Man, I'm back, Dog, I'm back.
Speaker 1: He was one of my first guests. You were one
Speaker 1: of my best guests. You gave me so much good stuff.
Speaker 1: You've broken down about the team in the locker room
Speaker 1: with kJ. I mean the poster, remember that, I mean
Speaker 1: if that was funny, Dog, that really we had a
Speaker 1: great episode. Man, Now you're you're a big reason why
Speaker 1: this is the momentum. This thing really started to pick up. Man.
Speaker 1: But man, let's talk about you for a second. Brother.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about being named a U Athletics
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Does it change the perception that you
Speaker 1: have of yourself? You know, and you you know this
Speaker 1: because you have confidence in what you've done in your career,
Speaker 1: in your game. You you know, you know where you're
Speaker 1: stand on where you should be. Um, it's a tremendous honor,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's an honor that you.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many people go into the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: the same hall of fame as Jackie Robinson, authors, John Wooden,
Speaker 1: your dad, Kareem, I mean, the rest of my brewing brothers.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jackie, Jordan, Curtsey come on, man and Myers
Speaker 1: Drysdale come. I mean, like, it's it's so humbling, that
Speaker 1: is emotional, you know, you just you just kind of
Speaker 1: like right now I'm getting I'm getting goose bumps right
Speaker 1: now just talking about it, just going through that whole process,
Speaker 1: you know, and finding out to the lead up to
Speaker 1: the night. As it got closer, I got more and
Speaker 1: more nervous, I got more and more edgy. I got
Speaker 1: more and more stressed. And then when you're there and
Speaker 1: you're sitting there, you're hearing all these great inspiring speeches,
Speaker 1: and the last thing you're thinking that I don't want
Speaker 1: to mess this up, bro, you know. And then the
Speaker 1: first thing they did was make a joke about Toby
Speaker 1: having the record being up there over an hour. I
Speaker 1: was there. I was there until we were spitting huh, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like Tolby didn't told me shot
Speaker 1: it out. Everybody died. Yeah, man, you know what bro
Speaker 1: I mean. But that's your moment, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and you don't know if you're gonna get that moment again.
Speaker 1: So you got people up there going off the dome,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not a speech reader. I go
Speaker 1: off the dome too, and I go with what I feel.
Speaker 1: But I have to have some paper there to make
Speaker 1: sure I don't forget anybody. I got an outline to
Speaker 1: keep me on track, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: don't have just a full blown speech. I gotta outline
Speaker 1: to keep me on track. So I wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure I got you know, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that first and foremost. It
Speaker 1: was difficult getting me into u c l A. Because
Speaker 1: I was an athlete student I want a student athlete,
Speaker 1: so they had, you know, Mike Signerheimer had to jump
Speaker 1: through whoops to get me up in that piece, you know,
Speaker 1: on the academic side, to convince people to give me
Speaker 1: a chance. So I shouted him out. I shouted Mark
Speaker 1: Della's out. I shouted, you know, all of these guys out,
Speaker 1: Bill bend at It and Steve Rourke, you know, people
Speaker 1: that made us look good. You know, without basketball, without
Speaker 1: the media, how does the basketball get exposure. You know,
Speaker 1: all of those people made us look good. So I
Speaker 1: had to, you know, shout Mike would getting me in school.
Speaker 1: I had um you know, through through all the ups
Speaker 1: and downs of academics, you know him. I had to
Speaker 1: shout out Mike Consists for for being there when I
Speaker 1: came back fifteen years later, you know, afterwards, and you
Speaker 1: know that's that's difficult, man, because you're the oldest dude
Speaker 1: in the class in the morning with the students, the
Speaker 1: regular studes, and then at night you're the youngest one
Speaker 1: in the class with all the older old heads. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was. It was an experience, man.
Speaker 1: But you know, Mike consisus helped me through all of that. So,
Speaker 1: you know, Coach Harrif was there. You know, I had
Speaker 1: to shout him and the staff out. You know, I
Speaker 1: shouted all of my teammates out, the M and M boys,
Speaker 1: you know, all the way through O'Bannon, Tarvor and Ugly
Speaker 1: and Zedek through to the one was like lou Ritchie,
Speaker 1: you know, I have an appreciation for them. I shout
Speaker 1: out the managers and and uh and the great Tony
Speaker 1: spin No man because he kept us healthy. Bro. So
Speaker 1: it's like there's a lot of people that you know,
Speaker 1: and of course, last and not least, you know your family.
Speaker 1: That that's the one that that gets you emotional, that's
Speaker 1: the one to get you choked up. We had the
Speaker 1: five four with me, my mom, my dad, my brother,
Speaker 1: and started with that. We're the ones that went through
Speaker 1: the ground. We're the ones that went through the whole
Speaker 1: career thing. But then you know we had to. This
Speaker 1: was and even in the kind of kill the curtain
Speaker 1: back a little bit for those who weren't there, my wife,
Speaker 1: my kids, my son, uh and those who are whoever else,
Speaker 1: my in laws and everybody else that was at the table.
Speaker 1: You know, you kind of pulling the curtain back on
Speaker 1: Tracy Murray the basketball player, because they didn't know that guy.
Speaker 1: They know daddy, they know husband, they know you know
Speaker 1: son in law, they don't know the murder the basketball player. Uh,
Speaker 1: what's which is? You know? It was cool to see
Speaker 1: them all enjoy the evening. What part of your U
Speaker 1: c l A experience do you look back upon and
Speaker 1: it gives you great pride or joy or you just
Speaker 1: have like a great unbelievable feeling on the inside when
Speaker 1: you think about it. Is there is there a certain moment?
Speaker 1: Are there a series of moments? Is there a certain
Speaker 1: experience associated with u c l A. You said a
Speaker 1: basketball that you look back on it at all that
Speaker 1: gives you that feeling outside of being a you know,
Speaker 1: a husband and a father and you know a family
Speaker 1: man right now, you know, because this is the best
Speaker 1: time in my life. I mean seeing my kids grow
Speaker 1: up and doing there every day right now, this is
Speaker 1: the best time in my life. But the best time
Speaker 1: my life before that was c l A. It wasn't
Speaker 1: the league. Everybody's thinking this the league. It wasn't the league.
Speaker 1: It was U c l A. My three years with
Speaker 1: the guys that I was on the team with, we
Speaker 1: had a ball all man and it was you know,
Speaker 1: come on, you went through it, Bro. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like you got access to everything being right there. Um,
Speaker 1: you're going from a boy to a man. Um, you're
Speaker 1: making your own decisions really for the first time in
Speaker 1: your life. Without parents and influences you got, You're figuring
Speaker 1: the ship out, so you know, I mean, it's fun
Speaker 1: figuring it out. Bro, You're gonna make some mistakes, but
Speaker 1: you yeah, yeah it is. But but then at the
Speaker 1: same time you're gonna reel yourself in because you know
Speaker 1: you've got responsibilities. You know, you know you gotta stay
Speaker 1: on a certain path. So you know, it was it
Speaker 1: was fun. Man. I have a lot of like even
Speaker 1: not not just my teammates, Man, the people want to
Speaker 1: freshman summer programs like those are my people. To this day,
Speaker 1: I'm still in touch with him. We go golf and
Speaker 1: we go we go over each other's houses. We chill
Speaker 1: like I have a special bond man with those people
Speaker 1: I went to school with here. Absolutely and when you
Speaker 1: speak about sort of that the time of your life
Speaker 1: where you're coming of age and you're making your own
Speaker 1: decisions for the first time, you're figuring it out and
Speaker 1: it just so happens. We experienced that with the backdrop
Speaker 1: of Westwood. And when you say, l a basketball across
Speaker 1: our chest, so that are I think our experiences is
Speaker 1: very unique in that sense in that U. C. L. A.
Speaker 1: Westwood is sort of an epicenter for basketball and athletics
Speaker 1: and life. So we kind of get used to being
Speaker 1: treated a certain way when you're when you're in that
Speaker 1: zone and in that mode. And then when I and
Speaker 1: like you say when you talked about the league, well,
Speaker 1: I have the overseas experience, and you know U c
Speaker 1: l A steal to this day is the greatest experience.
Speaker 1: And I think it's just to the points that you
Speaker 1: make just for that reason, that come of age reason. Man,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. And to see you get come full circle
Speaker 1: and now named a Hall of Famer, bro, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no better feeling. Could Did you ever imagine when
Speaker 1: you were younger, after your you know, fourteen years old,
Speaker 1: you get the hip surgery. You're you're sitting in your
Speaker 1: on the hospital bed after your surgery. The doctors are
Speaker 1: telling you you may never play basketball. Can't in your
Speaker 1: wildest dreams, Tracy Murray, did you ever think that you
Speaker 1: would be on that stage the other night accepting that plaque? Brother,
Speaker 1: Not at all, because just on a normal sense, not
Speaker 1: not just on a on a on a basketball ending sense,
Speaker 1: you know, not, not not with the hip surgery, just
Speaker 1: on a regular thought process. You're not thinking Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame when you when you're out there grinding and you
Speaker 1: play and you're thinking, I want to get to the league,
Speaker 1: you know, or I want to achieve my dreams, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, hall of fame doesn't even come in the mind.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even come into the mental picture, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You just start paying attention to Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame stuff when you're old and done and other
Speaker 1: people start talking about other people like you're your fears
Speaker 1: go in and it's like, oh too, this might be
Speaker 1: a possibility of something else. But but I mean, in
Speaker 1: that in that hospital bed man, all I was hoping
Speaker 1: and praying for was a second chance. Somebody passed me
Speaker 1: up and let me get back out there. I won't
Speaker 1: take this game for granted again. M hmm, yeah, that
Speaker 1: must I mean. And you have a very unique career
Speaker 1: that since that three years of high school, three years
Speaker 1: of college you did. You accomplished in three years of
Speaker 1: high school. You accomplish in three years in college with
Speaker 1: most cats don't accomplish in five years. You can read
Speaker 1: shirt six years and don't be a top ten at
Speaker 1: U c l A and from the three as a senior.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the work, and this would
Speaker 1: be my final thing on your Hall of Fame journe.
Speaker 1: I wanna talk about the work. What did it take?
Speaker 1: The work, the daily grind, the Tracy Murray grind, the
Speaker 1: stuff I grew up watching idolizing and I implemented in
Speaker 1: my game. I want you to tell people, though, from
Speaker 1: your words, what type of work did it take on
Speaker 1: a daily basis to achieve the heights that you achieve? Tracy, Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what price. It's. It's like you know
Speaker 1: you and I remember your grind. I remember yours, and
Speaker 1: you know that you were doing every day to get right. Um,
Speaker 1: excuse me. Coming from a hip surgery, you have to
Speaker 1: learn how to walk all over again. You know that.
Speaker 1: That's that's humbling, bro. You gotta learn how to walk
Speaker 1: all over again. So then you turn a walk into
Speaker 1: a run. You're running with a limp, So you turn
Speaker 1: a walk with a limp, run with a limp into
Speaker 1: run regularly, walk regularly. That's that's first and foremost. I
Speaker 1: was already already had big feet, and I was already slow.
Speaker 1: I wasn't the quickest dude in the world anyway, So
Speaker 1: now I gotta work that much harder to be quicker
Speaker 1: than I was after the surgery. So you know how
Speaker 1: you know, everybody that that's played this game for a
Speaker 1: significant amount of time has been injured and had to
Speaker 1: do rehab and come back and all of that. So
Speaker 1: the rehab back then wasn't like what it is now.
Speaker 1: So it was different. It was just it was just okay,
Speaker 1: figure this thing out. It wasn't like, okay, do this,
Speaker 1: do that. We're gonna go over this exercise and this
Speaker 1: is gonna strengthen this area up, which is gonna strengthen
Speaker 1: this area up and then you'll be fine. It wasn't
Speaker 1: none of that. People are so detailed now with rehab.
Speaker 1: I didn't have that. So it was just regular stretching,
Speaker 1: leg waights, um ump stuff you did on your own
Speaker 1: kind of My dad used he used a lot of
Speaker 1: old school stuff that he used when when when he played,
Speaker 1: So it was you know, just regularly jump ropen, running
Speaker 1: in the sand, running in the pool, uh, swimming, you know,
Speaker 1: just to get your legs back strong and right. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, squats and and and and uh, lunges and
Speaker 1: you know, all the old school stuff. Bro. But but
Speaker 1: I was like a fanatic though, because I didn't listen
Speaker 1: to my dad before. I was just of the kids
Speaker 1: that had a belly. I can shoot the ship out
Speaker 1: of the ball, but I couldn't move. But I used
Speaker 1: my shooting here right, So I used my my shooting
Speaker 1: with my aid. But you know, once people say, oh
Speaker 1: you can do is shoot, what else are you gonna do,
Speaker 1: especially if you can't move. I get blocked shots because
Speaker 1: I'm still long, but I couldn't guard. So athleticism, the
Speaker 1: game was going more and more athletic. When when I'm
Speaker 1: on a team when I'm thirteen years old with the
Speaker 1: Derek Martin and the mental Butler and Mentell Butler was
Speaker 1: a phenomenal athlete ben So when you see that, it's like, boy,
Speaker 1: I got some work to do. I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not gonna be that athletic. But I
Speaker 1: gotta catch at least get half of the athleticism. So
Speaker 1: that's when all the saying workouts and then jumping rope
Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. You know, the quicken the
Speaker 1: feed up because I can always run fast forward beside
Speaker 1: laterally I was slow, um so you know, uh, tires
Speaker 1: can tell you how fast I was. The infamous step
Speaker 1: show night. What happened? We're at at the shrine. At
Speaker 1: the shrine auditorious, right, So it's it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: falling there. It's a capacity and not letting us in
Speaker 1: the whole splide outside me and and Ed was you
Speaker 1: know he was still hopping around a little bit. Yeah
Speaker 1: it's me. Yeah. So you know, we're all outside tarvar tires.
Speaker 1: We're all banging on doors. So I get let in
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we hear some shots. So
Speaker 1: we're up the block. Yeah, Ed hurdles this guy in
Speaker 1: a wheelchair and his leg is done. Hurdles the guy,
Speaker 1: crazy dog. I'm like, damn, hurdle the wheelchair. So we
Speaker 1: hit that corner. I'm heading up to this. I passed
Speaker 1: tass like we get to the end of the black time, Like,
Speaker 1: damn t Murray. I didn't know you were that fast.
Speaker 1: Put a bullet on my know how times are saying
Speaker 1: it too. That's why I'm laughing. I turned the time,
Speaker 1: I turned the tiss out of breath. I said, you
Speaker 1: put a bullet on my ass. I'm real fast. Goldbody's
Speaker 1: been that old Richard Pryor joke. When I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: turn that hat backwards. Man. You you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, y'all go oh, that's so funny. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean running the floor straight on fast breaks,
Speaker 1: we're running for dunk. So you're hitting, you're hitting that lane,
Speaker 1: you know, like, all right, who's going to dunk on that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: A three on two, two on one drills was a
Speaker 1: mom boy, because we're trying to bang on legendary legendary. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that so I always could move forward, but side
Speaker 1: to side I had to work on that absolutely, man,
Speaker 1: And and you did it and you got it together. Brother.
Speaker 1: I mean, just congratulations on that career. Man. I wanted
Speaker 1: to move on and talk about this, the current iteration
Speaker 1: and some Bruins that may one day have their name
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Uh. This year's team UM
Speaker 1: as of late, have held the last three opponents under
Speaker 1: fifty six points. It seems like they have recalibrated on
Speaker 1: the defensive end after hitting a bad stretch with a
Speaker 1: couple of bad losses. What are your thoughts on what
Speaker 1: has happened defensively for the Bruins to change the time.
Speaker 1: I think they're starting to tune up for March, you know,
Speaker 1: because I don't know how you felt about about the season,
Speaker 1: but I always felt with in a thirty game season,
Speaker 1: we don't have that many games, so go hard all
Speaker 1: the time. I think this generation feels like there's always tomorrow,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They're watching guys, you know,
Speaker 1: take breaks in the league, and they feel like they
Speaker 1: can take nights off. And you don't have that many
Speaker 1: days in college to be evaluated for the next level
Speaker 1: to feel like you can take a night off. That's
Speaker 1: why I don't think they understand. And I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about from injury. If you hurt, your hurt,
Speaker 1: but you can't be out there just okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get my maximum to day. We're gonna just walk
Speaker 1: and win this game. It doesn't work that way in
Speaker 1: the pack, twep, you're gonna get stunned. People trying to
Speaker 1: beat you. Yeah, you got u c l A across
Speaker 1: your chest, come up, We'll hate you. So they're gonna
Speaker 1: play their best game against you. And I keep telling
Speaker 1: people all the time, I don't care if it's an
Speaker 1: interview or if it's talking to one of these young cats.
Speaker 1: I'm like little fellas or whoever I'm talking to We're
Speaker 1: gonna get everybody's best shot. Whether it's sister, the poor,
Speaker 1: or Washington State or anybody, We're gonna get their best shot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ship califinally came in u c l A about seven
Speaker 1: eight years ago when when our program was down and
Speaker 1: got a w in Polly Pavilion. Yeah, that one of
Speaker 1: the downtimes and in u c l A history. But
Speaker 1: why because everybody you play is gonna get your best shot.
Speaker 1: The Reeves, Nelson, uh, Josh Smith year, we go over
Speaker 1: to Ontario, out in Ontario, rain over there and almost
Speaker 1: loosed the San Bernardino because they got a bunch of
Speaker 1: D one bounce back and they gave us their best shot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like you gotta you gotta put when the
Speaker 1: life come on, Man, you crossed those lines. You gotta
Speaker 1: be ready. You gotta have your war paint on already
Speaker 1: because people are gonna give you their best. And you
Speaker 1: think Coach cronin Um turned up his intensity, turned up
Speaker 1: his emphasis on the d interment or is it something
Speaker 1: that he probably did. He probably did, because I mean
Speaker 1: he he stresses it all the time and he tells
Speaker 1: them all the time. But I think I think the
Speaker 1: intensity has been up to last like three or four games.
Speaker 1: They got to understand that there's no one guy on
Speaker 1: this team that they say, Happa boy fellas, jump in
Speaker 1: the backpack and let me carry the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: There's nobody ever seem they can do that. I think
Speaker 1: when U. C. L a. Is at their best is
Speaker 1: when they're holding people in the fifties and they have
Speaker 1: five players in double figures. Yes, that's when they're at
Speaker 1: their best. It's not you know, two guys getting twenty something,
Speaker 1: it's five, six guys double figures and they're locking up.
Speaker 1: That's when they're at their best. That's what took them
Speaker 1: from the playing game to the final four. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with that assessment. I think that from what I've
Speaker 1: seen as of late versus early on in the season.
Speaker 1: I was in Vegas and I watched them up close
Speaker 1: couple of times this year. I just see an increased
Speaker 1: sense of urgency on the defensive end. I think people
Speaker 1: have taken off their cool jackets. Now guys are getting
Speaker 1: down in the stands. They're trying to pick up ninety
Speaker 1: four feet. They're using their hands, their talk and switches
Speaker 1: are hard and with purpose. Everybody's doing stuff with purpose.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what Miles Johnson he when he
Speaker 1: plays that big active game, whether it be crashing the glass,
Speaker 1: trying to get tip dunk, whether it be challenges, showing
Speaker 1: hard on screens and rolls. But his thing is his motor.
Speaker 1: To me, when he does that, we are hard to
Speaker 1: be Obviously. Jalen Clark has really stepped up his level.
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about him bro that that Ada
Speaker 1: Wanda kid and I had a chance to do do
Speaker 1: his game in high school and I was really sold
Speaker 1: on him. And I was kind of gassed on him
Speaker 1: because I envisioned him doing what he's doing now on
Speaker 1: this level. The ability to handle the ball make decisions
Speaker 1: is something I thought was underrated about Jay Clark. He's
Speaker 1: one of the most versatile players in the country. What
Speaker 1: do you think his upside is as far as a player.
Speaker 1: I think it's upside. Its huge. The reason why the
Speaker 1: reason why I say it is he competes defensively all
Speaker 1: the time. I called him the fireman for a reason.
Speaker 1: He puts out fires. You can be on fire and
Speaker 1: he'll sit over to you and it's extinguished. It's out there.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that's why I called him,
Speaker 1: like when he was coming off the bed. If somebody's
Speaker 1: fire was lit, then comes James. Here comes the fireman
Speaker 1: to put out that fire. And then he doesn't. He doesn't,
Speaker 1: and you can you can see even when he's in
Speaker 1: the game, he put out the fire somebody else like
Speaker 1: the fire he goes over that. It's like he's ships
Speaker 1: and puts out fires the whole time. Now with a
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Speaker 1: And Jill's doing in Jill's doing what he does in
Speaker 1: his positions. He's just he's he's struggling offensively, but defensively.
Speaker 1: He's always there. He's concessive shot. He's always in front
Speaker 1: of his man. So could you buy those four gods
Speaker 1: with tigers? Yeah. More defensively, absolutely, I can imagine it
Speaker 1: and and I envisioned it. But then mccronin has some
Speaker 1: good problems because now you still have a Peyton Watson,
Speaker 1: you still have a Cary Riley, you still have these
Speaker 1: other guys at your disposal. And what I love, what
Speaker 1: I've loved about the last three to four games from
Speaker 1: the u c l A. Bruins is the fact that
Speaker 1: certain guys have started to get off, and the team
Speaker 1: seems to be trying to get those guys off. It
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be no hate to rate out there.
Speaker 1: It seems to be we're gonna share the sugar. This
Speaker 1: is the best I feel like they've shared the ball.
Speaker 1: Everybody's sharing the four years. They're trying to prove a point,
Speaker 1: everybody trying to prove a point, the show everybody we
Speaker 1: can move the ball. I mean, it's unbelievable, the ball movement,
Speaker 1: the unselfishness, tracy, and then the defensive cohesion. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you that people don't understand how important that
Speaker 1: is when it comes to winning basketball because all it
Speaker 1: takes is one bad selfish shot or play and then
Speaker 1: the other person, all the people being on selfish look
Speaker 1: at that shot like two man, when you are right,
Speaker 1: bring the ball over here. I'm taking me a bad
Speaker 1: one now because this dude took like two bad ones
Speaker 1: real quick, and and and he get off the page
Speaker 1: of what we are. Yeah, I mean it's happened to
Speaker 1: all of all of our teams in the past, and
Speaker 1: thank you. And that's the elephant in the room those
Speaker 1: I think that that for us at U c l A.
Speaker 1: When you're playing alongside so many other talented individuals that
Speaker 1: are asked to sacrifice their game for the greater good
Speaker 1: of the team, them shots. You can't be taking no
Speaker 1: bad shots because now it's gonna spread like wildfire. So
Speaker 1: that our year, my year, we lose to a Princeton
Speaker 1: because that attitude was prevalent. However, the year prior we
Speaker 1: win a championship because sharing the sugar just kind of
Speaker 1: ran through our our whole system. And this year's Bruins
Speaker 1: to me, they're sharing the sugar now. I have a
Speaker 1: specific question about himI. Himie is kind of you know,
Speaker 1: he's been up with the injuries. How how does he
Speaker 1: get himself back going? What's the best way? Tree? It's
Speaker 1: it's tough because you know Mickey's mentioned you know him
Speaker 1: not practicing, So how how do you have a rhythm?
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of tough when when he's trying
Speaker 1: to get healthy and he's not practicing, you know, to
Speaker 1: to have a rhythm in the game, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: inconsistent because you need those reps. You need that rhythm.
Speaker 1: You need to be in tip top shape because I
Speaker 1: don't think when when you're not practicing, you're not in
Speaker 1: tip top shape. So so I think, yeah, game shape, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the game shape is different, man. And I think Hammate's
Speaker 1: explosiveness is not there. He's playing on two bad ankles. Bro,
Speaker 1: both of us are. It's not like one is messed
Speaker 1: up and okay, let me go explode off there. You
Speaker 1: can take off on the right right, So I mean
Speaker 1: both of them are messed up. So just his whole
Speaker 1: it affects you defensively, affects you with your shot, It
Speaker 1: affects you rebounded, you know, it affects you period whole game.
Speaker 1: And and so I think he is trying to learn
Speaker 1: how to play under the rim, right now yeah, block
Speaker 1: out more pursuitor ball um in the post. Use your
Speaker 1: body of shoulders the free up space so you can
Speaker 1: get your shot off as a post bump and explode
Speaker 1: over because he doesn't have that less east to west,
Speaker 1: shifty between the legs stuff. Now more pump fake one
Speaker 1: two pounds, get to Tracy Murray Special Chris Johnson's special
Speaker 1: up fake and go see you guys later figuring out.
Speaker 1: But but Tracy, you already know Peyton Watson. Payton Watson
Speaker 1: though he's he's a kid that has so much talent.
Speaker 1: So much has been said about the NBA this and that.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that if well, nothing that I don't
Speaker 1: wonder it. I know that that has been something that
Speaker 1: obviously is on his mind. But I would love to
Speaker 1: see him just kind of find his groove as we
Speaker 1: go into March. He still has been contributing. He looks
Speaker 1: solid when he's out there struggling a little bit with
Speaker 1: his shot. I feel like he is going to be
Speaker 1: essential for a deep March run. Yeah. But but see
Speaker 1: what he's got to do is come in and lose
Speaker 1: himself on the defensive end. Yeah, come out there with
Speaker 1: Peyton White, come out there with with Jalen Clark. You
Speaker 1: know him miles, their length, athleticism, the defensive ability to
Speaker 1: keep people in front of him and harassing while they're
Speaker 1: dribbling their long arms, and be able to post the
Speaker 1: ball the way. That's how he can get involved. He
Speaker 1: can create turnovers, get into the open court, go get
Speaker 1: that law or throw it to him for a dunk boom,
Speaker 1: and he's ready now turn around. That's how he can
Speaker 1: impact the game because right now he's not a great shooter.
Speaker 1: He's not strong enough to put us at the rim
Speaker 1: through track it. So he's he's a work in progress.
Speaker 1: I do love his ball hand and playmaking skills because
Speaker 1: he can go by a guy. Once he's decided to
Speaker 1: go by him, he goes buy him and he makes
Speaker 1: the right play. He makes the right play, sees everything.
Speaker 1: So I love that part of him, and that part
Speaker 1: of him would be like it would be excellent on
Speaker 1: the Nuke level because the floor is more wide open.
Speaker 1: The chief are not chipping in the lay illegal defense.
Speaker 1: But in this situation where people can play his zones
Speaker 1: or they play that sagging man, the man where everybody
Speaker 1: would be in the pay if you can't not done
Speaker 1: the jump shot, how can you get there? So that
Speaker 1: if there's two things that he needs to work on,
Speaker 1: and I know his game twenty five pounds, but he's
Speaker 1: really got to work on strength and and uh and
Speaker 1: you know, just being able to finish at the rim
Speaker 1: maybe dunk on some people. Um and his shot man.
Speaker 1: He gotta get up eight hundred two thousand shots today.
Speaker 1: Game speed, not not just you know, getting him up
Speaker 1: cool ways. Game speed, because when you're in games, if
Speaker 1: you're going game speed outside of the game, the game
Speaker 1: speed is no problem and you have your your your
Speaker 1: release point together to where you can knock down shots
Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. But I watched him a lot,
Speaker 1: and I try to talk to him a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: because I know he's discouraged. I know that he's thinking
Speaker 1: about the next level. He should only be thinking about
Speaker 1: the n C Double A title right now, one game
Speaker 1: by game, that's the only thing he should be thinking
Speaker 1: about right now. But I think there's so much noise
Speaker 1: outside of the u c l A circle with his
Speaker 1: family telling League League League that he's thinking about that,
Speaker 1: and it's putting excess pressure on him that he doesn't need.
Speaker 1: He needs to just go hoop right now, there's already
Speaker 1: enough pressure to play with. There were four letters across
Speaker 1: your check. But now you're thinking about the league too,
Speaker 1: and he's will have stuff that you need to work on.
Speaker 1: So you know, at the end of the day, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean just game speed. If he can practice on
Speaker 1: game speed. Um. Yeah, shots in the game, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be the same. Your release point is the same. You're
Speaker 1: shooting this now consistently, the same as opposed to take
Speaker 1: in you know, the cool one month shots. You know
Speaker 1: that's not the same shot you're gonna be shooting in
Speaker 1: the game. How you expect to dot that shot down.
Speaker 1: So once you understand that work ethic part of your shot,
Speaker 1: then his shot can be consistent, which is gonna open
Speaker 1: up his driving lanes and his playmaking ability and his
Speaker 1: strength being in the waiverman's gonna help him finish out
Speaker 1: the rim. Now you've got a totally different patent watching.
Speaker 1: I just think that people outside the circle just need
Speaker 1: to leave alone, let him go through his journey. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: And David Singleton though, was somebody that I feel like
Speaker 1: has the work ethic and has honed his his craft
Speaker 1: and dedicates his time in the gym since I've known him,
Speaker 1: since he's been about eighth grade. He was he used
Speaker 1: to be on the same team as my son, so
Speaker 1: I got to watch his growth and journey. And what
Speaker 1: I did know about David, he was gonna always be
Speaker 1: in the gym with his dad. At any gym around
Speaker 1: the country, around the city, around the state, you're gonna
Speaker 1: see them to getting some shots up, probably around four
Speaker 1: thirty five o'clock in the morning. And all that work
Speaker 1: now is paying dividends to him. He has been huge
Speaker 1: for the Bruins. If he continues to shoot the basketball
Speaker 1: like this, to stretch the floor and be a threat,
Speaker 1: I think the possible. I think a deep run in
Speaker 1: March is imminent for the Bruins. Absolutely, when you have
Speaker 1: that type of threat coming off the bench and he
Speaker 1: plays defense, and you know, he's really sure with the ball.
Speaker 1: He's too sure with the ball. Some time to wear,
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you know, loosen up a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to make a play. But but he's
Speaker 1: not trying to turn the ball over, you know what.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, yeah, but so so.
Speaker 1: But I mean and and you know, he's not his
Speaker 1: conventional his form is not convinced. You know, he's kind
Speaker 1: of slingshots that thing right, you know, but that's his
Speaker 1: rhythm and that's his I mean, you don't get that right,
Speaker 1: knock that down right, it's going down so so so
Speaker 1: it's like he shoots his shot the same way game speed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why it goes. Absolutely, that's the person on the
Speaker 1: team that he should talk to. Absolutely. Absolutely. Finally, Cody
Speaker 1: Riley Tiger campbell Um two pillars of the program. Solid
Speaker 1: guys that play their roles to the t and they
Speaker 1: sort of lead without really saying too much. Is that
Speaker 1: an accurate assessment of Tiger and Cody? I think so.
Speaker 1: I mean they lead by their play. Tiger has been
Speaker 1: a little bit more vocal this year with a certain things,
Speaker 1: but that is accurate. Both of them lead. They don't
Speaker 1: say too much. They just go out there and they play.
Speaker 1: I still think Cody is not all the way back
Speaker 1: yet from that injury at the beginning. And let's you know,
Speaker 1: if you rewind the season injuries, COVID, all kinds of
Speaker 1: stuff is just right when we start getting there, boom,
Speaker 1: something happened. Right when we start getting there, boom, something happens.
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes that's the things that you need
Speaker 1: to get you over the hull. Now, I I still
Speaker 1: see Cody kind of lumbering up the court. When he
Speaker 1: was at his best last year, he was a little
Speaker 1: his feet were a little bit lighter than than than
Speaker 1: they are now. I see lumbering. He was a little
Speaker 1: bit like he was able to step out on picking rolls,
Speaker 1: keep guys in front of him. He was able to
Speaker 1: face people up, knocked down the jumper if they went
Speaker 1: for it, then he'd go to the hole and spin
Speaker 1: on him and lay the ball up. He hasn't gotten
Speaker 1: that quickness and his feet on as light as they
Speaker 1: were post season last year yet. So maybe he's not
Speaker 1: in the shape that he should be in yet. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's getting there. Maybe he'll get there at the right time.
Speaker 1: But if he does, to add along with miles of
Speaker 1: uh activity and what he does Tiger's leadership, knocking down
Speaker 1: threes this year at a clip, I think that's that's
Speaker 1: what was missing from Tiger. Yeah, just jump shooting. Now
Speaker 1: he No, he can do what he can do, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you have to honor that. Yeah. And he's and
Speaker 1: he's not as much as a defensive liability as he was.
Speaker 1: He's actually gotten tons better to keeping guys in front.
Speaker 1: He's making it right, he's using his head, he's using
Speaker 1: anticipation a lot better this season. I think though, in
Speaker 1: terms of when we talk about Cody, and and and
Speaker 1: and himI, and as far as injuries this late in
Speaker 1: the season, I feel like they just have to find
Speaker 1: a groove to where they can contribute, however, the best
Speaker 1: of their ability. I remember my junior year, Tracy. I
Speaker 1: played with bolt spurs and my right foot the whole season.
Speaker 1: I had a down year. I leven again. I was
Speaker 1: eleven points a game, just a bad from the field,
Speaker 1: just a bad year. But I contributing come terment time
Speaker 1: because I knew where to get in where I could
Speaker 1: fit in. You know, ten points, eight points here, six boards, play,
Speaker 1: some tough defense, couple of key plays, get us still here.
Speaker 1: I think the Saints could be said for Cody in
Speaker 1: him me. If they're not gonna be a right now
Speaker 1: and we still gotta play basketball, just find a way
Speaker 1: to help the team. Call it a day and keep
Speaker 1: it pushing. Don't go outside of your game, you know,
Speaker 1: don't try to be something that guy that you were,
Speaker 1: because you really can't do that same stuff. Take what
Speaker 1: the defense keids. You make it easy defense rebound, take
Speaker 1: your open shots. And if you put the ball on
Speaker 1: the deck, put the ball on the deck anticipating the
Speaker 1: double team is coming and looking for those guys. Yes,
Speaker 1: be ready to pick it up and pass quickly. It's
Speaker 1: it's an art. It's an art for that. I had it.
Speaker 1: I had it down since I did that first dribble.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for somebody to pass two. I ain't trying
Speaker 1: to yo yo. And you're not trying to split the
Speaker 1: defenders because those defenders are coming over quick. So I mean,
Speaker 1: and if you don't have that the push off like
Speaker 1: you normally do, you're not splitting it like is used
Speaker 1: to splitting it. Now they're getting you're in closing the gaps.
Speaker 1: So now he's got to look for people earlier code
Speaker 1: he's used to post him up and spending fast. That
Speaker 1: double team is there and and he's struggling with trying
Speaker 1: to get the ball up on the backboard or climing
Speaker 1: the defenders. He might need to face up in jab,
Speaker 1: you know, back to the basket, face up, in jab,
Speaker 1: keep him off, face up. Now you can shoot. Now
Speaker 1: you can see everything. You know do to Tim duncan
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, face up him back down
Speaker 1: when he had to, but he mostly faced up so
Speaker 1: he can see the double teams coming. And you're saving
Speaker 1: you're saving energy that way as well, without that show
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, you're saving your shoulder,
Speaker 1: you're saving you know everything, bro. Yeah, you don't have
Speaker 1: to lumber up the court as much if you're not
Speaker 1: carrying people on your in the pain all the time,
Speaker 1: getting tired. And yeah, let me ask you this, Chris,
Speaker 1: because I feel a certain way go ahead. How do
Speaker 1: you feel when you're big man is always on the ground. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a frustrating site to see, but it
Speaker 1: just really depends on what type of production, Like did
Speaker 1: he just pin it and fall down? Is he getting
Speaker 1: a tip or deflection? Is he falling down somebody and
Speaker 1: fall down? If he's not doing none of that, he
Speaker 1: falling down, get your ass something right, right right? Or
Speaker 1: or if he's taking a charge you can take that.
Speaker 1: I'll take to be rustling around with somebody or tossling
Speaker 1: around with somebody and you're always on the ground. I
Speaker 1: mean that bothers me because it makes your team looks soft.
Speaker 1: If you're big man is always on the ground, it does,
Speaker 1: it does make him look soft. And but you know,
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be on the ground, we gotta figure
Speaker 1: out a way to maximize that. If you know he's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of them type of dude, Tracy just
Speaker 1: go end up on the ground, we gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: figure out to be able to get something out of him.
Speaker 1: He's gotta give us eight to ten points if he's
Speaker 1: gonna be on the ground, like, you gotta what is
Speaker 1: he like? He can't just be be on the ground? Guy,
Speaker 1: that's not his value to our life, bro. But this
Speaker 1: is my question. Is he on the ground for being
Speaker 1: thrown on the ground. I don't think so, not, not,
Speaker 1: not at two six. I think he's on the ground
Speaker 1: because of maybe flopping trying to get a call. And
Speaker 1: they're never they're never gonna allow somebody six a six
Speaker 1: nine two six five to get a flop call on
Speaker 1: the ground. That's not gonna happen. So you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta stay in your ground, and you gotta man up
Speaker 1: and keep your ballot. Stop him right right? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing against too many guys that
Speaker 1: are severer than him. Yeah, yeah, because I think he's strong.
Speaker 1: There's something to be saying. Also for you trying to
Speaker 1: use your head, trying to play the cat and mouse
Speaker 1: game as you as you know, and sometimes you can't
Speaker 1: get up vertically and you need to you know, X
Speaker 1: out that guy or neutralize somebody. You know, that's the
Speaker 1: flop game. You know, let's get a foul, let's do this.
Speaker 1: But when you start doing it too much and when
Speaker 1: you end up on the ground of the time, you
Speaker 1: may want to reconsider that that strategy. Right, and and
Speaker 1: and as I said again, it's not the flop game
Speaker 1: as far as taking a charge. It's like you're getting
Speaker 1: tangled up with the guy and then you're on the ground.
Speaker 1: You know. That's yeah, that's that's the part because now
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, you're on the ground, why isn't he
Speaker 1: on the ground. If y'all both need to be on
Speaker 1: the ground, like like the Maleman and Rodman at that time,
Speaker 1: there you go, that's what needs to happen. You're pulling me,
Speaker 1: I'm pulling you trying to get up. It's better be
Speaker 1: something because it ain't just me. Bro Ye. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what that Colorado game was a crazy one to
Speaker 1: watch because you had him and Batty, both strong bodies,
Speaker 1: but they both flopped like hell. So you start one
Speaker 1: flopping the other one flopping on this and then guys
Speaker 1: are in danger. Every time those big two dudes were
Speaker 1: flopping because knees and shins. It's like it was a
Speaker 1: mess down there. Bro spoken like a true hooper, worried
Speaker 1: about the knees because you flopping. I mean, that's some
Speaker 1: real basketball stuff, like you don't hurt me, and that's
Speaker 1: what we really I mean, I really would be piste
Speaker 1: off at a cat and probably like you know, like
Speaker 1: an Alma Givens or and I can wank. Was I
Speaker 1: fall I'm like, dog, don't you can't be falling dog six,
Speaker 1: y'all big old six and eleven dude, because you're gonna
Speaker 1: fall in at my leg and I'm gonna be how
Speaker 1: strong I was. He got to be on the g
Speaker 1: he following with the arms flail into so you know
Speaker 1: it was a whole My former teammate, I did. Did
Speaker 1: you play with Ike too? Ike was on our visit.
Speaker 1: I didn't play with I was on our visit. We
Speaker 1: hosted It's Going and I came in shut that's my man.
Speaker 1: Big Ike's in Thailand doing his thing. Tracy, I think
Speaker 1: big Olds in San Francisco. My man are up in
Speaker 1: the Bay Area. But Tray, do you think who do
Speaker 1: you think is the biggest sort of I guess the
Speaker 1: threat for the Pac twelve getting that auto bid in
Speaker 1: the tournament to the Bruins. Which team is the biggest
Speaker 1: threat the biggest threat in the Pac twelve tournament getting
Speaker 1: the auto um to the Bruins. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think it's USC Man. The reason why I say
Speaker 1: it because they're big. They're the biggest team in the nation,
Speaker 1: just about on the other side of Arizona UM. We've
Speaker 1: beaten the Arizona before, but we lost the sc last
Speaker 1: five terms. So I think they're the biggest threat because
Speaker 1: they have their war paint on. They know it's a
Speaker 1: robbery game. They know that their second class citizens. When
Speaker 1: it comes to basketball. To u c l A, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like you c l A football to them,
Speaker 1: Why is you sel a football beating them? Because they
Speaker 1: have this for ball tradition and we're trying to fight
Speaker 1: for respect. It's a flip flop in basketball, So they're
Speaker 1: constantly grinding, fighting for respect even though they're in the
Speaker 1: top twenty all year. Like I thought, it was unnecessary
Speaker 1: to storm the court. We're not number one, first of all,
Speaker 1: second of all, act act like you you've won before.
Speaker 1: You guys been winning for the last few years now.
Speaker 1: There's no need to storm the court. So you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that we weren't doing it to them
Speaker 1: because we expect the win. Have we ever stormed the
Speaker 1: court in probably civilion against anybody? Tracy? Did you get
Speaker 1: everything we did at one time? Because it was fashionable
Speaker 1: to storm the court at one point where kids were
Speaker 1: doing it all the time. Who don't I don't remember
Speaker 1: who were store in the court. Again, it was a
Speaker 1: big win. But it might have I don't know. It
Speaker 1: might it might have been it was a it was
Speaker 1: a top rank Cremin, might even been Arizona or somebody
Speaker 1: like that. So we're storm the court. But then you know,
Speaker 1: of course we're saying it on the radio. Um do
Speaker 1: you have people on TV? Was like, wow, they're storming
Speaker 1: the court, and and then and then all of us
Speaker 1: who are on social media is like, why are we
Speaker 1: storming the court? It's like it has made no sense
Speaker 1: for us to storm the court because we're doing what
Speaker 1: we're supposed to do. We're supposed to win at home,
Speaker 1: and we're supposed to handle our business because where U
Speaker 1: c l A. We're not supposed to be storming courts.
Speaker 1: The only time you storm the court is a national championship.
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Speaker 1: with the pressure when you put those those letters on
Speaker 1: your chest, championship or bus. So you win one game
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Speaker 1: I think we got kind of used to getting the
Speaker 1: court stormed on us back in college. They you know
Speaker 1: Oregon when they beat us at Matt Court. They but
Speaker 1: we got a funny story like with Oregon storm to course.
Speaker 1: So you know how Mac Jones in that situation in Arizona,
Speaker 1: I was got me to thinking like matt um it
Speaker 1: t n um it got it got me to thinking
Speaker 1: about different moments and interaction with fans that you see
Speaker 1: l a basketball for after the elves, when you take
Speaker 1: a tough deal in a Tucson and in a Pullman
Speaker 1: or I never lost the Pullman, but we we I
Speaker 1: forget me for saying that. But when you take a
Speaker 1: tough else somewhere right, they stormed the court, Matt Court,
Speaker 1: that's where they storm your ass. So they stormed us
Speaker 1: in Matt Court. Literally, I'm like trying to shake the
Speaker 1: spot and get out of there. I turned and look
Speaker 1: and I see tires at me, himming dudes up dot
Speaker 1: dot dot dot making his way by by bye, by
Speaker 1: making his I was like, we put it like this,
Speaker 1: Tires got out of the crowd very easily and quickly,
Speaker 1: and I was surprised. I was like that, it was
Speaker 1: kind of like you and him when y'all raised that time,
Speaker 1: when he kind of gave you that look like Tracy,
Speaker 1: how do you get over here? That's how I looked
Speaker 1: at tires Bro. I looked at how you making through
Speaker 1: the crowd? Bro, Like what? But I saw how you
Speaker 1: made it through the crowd. I always respected that man
Speaker 1: ever since my brother. But but that LBC came out, Hey,
Speaker 1: the LB ceazy and you only saw it a couple
Speaker 1: of times. With times, you know, you only see it,
Speaker 1: you may see it twice your whole life. You only
Speaker 1: may see it twice. But then let the smooth taste
Speaker 1: fool you not at all. But but but my point
Speaker 1: is they had a reason. I felt like Oregon had
Speaker 1: a reason. We were top ranked team in the country.
Speaker 1: We were number one. When you're number one, like you know,
Speaker 1: you you know when people beat us when we're number one,
Speaker 1: I get it. I totally get it. But we're thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like right, But that's why I said
Speaker 1: we were number one, So it didn't make sense. Points,
Speaker 1: you know, um Arizona stage. They don't. They ain't been.
Speaker 1: They ain't been good since hardened, So you know them storming,
Speaker 1: and they're who they are anyway, and they're the rudest fans,
Speaker 1: and you know they they are they are, and and
Speaker 1: and the broadcast when you called it out, Um, it
Speaker 1: was people trying to act like that. That didn't happen
Speaker 1: like that. That Like the guy didn't get something thrown
Speaker 1: at him as he's taking a shot. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was, but two, but that's how
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's like you jumping. You guys
Speaker 1: are trying to act like Tracy some type of you
Speaker 1: said a homer for saying what he saw. And I
Speaker 1: was just like, I'm reading this stuff like what he
Speaker 1: can't report what he saw. Now, let me clarify, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna affect the end. We were already down three,
Speaker 1: Arizona State already did enough to win it. We were
Speaker 1: wishing on the star with a bad miss Peyton Watson
Speaker 1: turn around three like that, which was not gonna go.
Speaker 1: So didn't affect the game. No, But in any arena
Speaker 1: in America, if you throw anything on the floor, what
Speaker 1: happened the same attack on the house to now. Now,
Speaker 1: now let's play the whole scenario out. If there's a
Speaker 1: technical that's two shots and the ball and the ball
Speaker 1: with the same time on the clock down one. Do
Speaker 1: you think Bobby Herley is not gonna lose this ship
Speaker 1: and maybe get one. Yeah, something to think about. You
Speaker 1: might lose this ship and get attecked because something that
Speaker 1: he didn't see happen. So there's a whole lot of
Speaker 1: scenarios you can play out there. But didn't have an
Speaker 1: effect on Cayton Boston's shot going in. No, No it didn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't going to that was we're wishing on the
Speaker 1: start at that shot that was then to send it
Speaker 1: into another overtime. So no, it didn't affect the game. No,
Speaker 1: it didn't affect the out. But I just needed I
Speaker 1: just needed to clarify that what if that. Now I've
Speaker 1: been overseason, you've been overseeing you know how it is overseas.
Speaker 1: I've had water bottles, keys, coins, all kinds of stuff
Speaker 1: thrown at me, batteries there there's no regulations over there
Speaker 1: where they say don't throw stuff onto the floor, but
Speaker 1: here we don't do that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: we don't do that here. Now that you know it
Speaker 1: was a balled up a T shirt that hit him,
Speaker 1: knows about this bit? Now, did that hurt him? No? Shot? No?
Speaker 1: Is it supposed to happen? No, That's all I was saying, Tracy.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, what world are we living in
Speaker 1: where people are trying to defend fan behavior throwing stuff
Speaker 1: during game action at a college just just just aside
Speaker 1: from everything we've talked about, this thing about someone actually
Speaker 1: trying to rationalize that, that part of it, and then
Speaker 1: let's let's really keep it real. The last time, not
Speaker 1: the last time, but one of the last times we
Speaker 1: saw a fan throw something that didn't hurt the player.
Speaker 1: The players ran up in the stands and they was
Speaker 1: bank banking Cats in Detroit, in Detroit, Michigan, Albert Hills, Michigan,
Speaker 1: Malice in the Palace. But the cup didn't hurt. The
Speaker 1: cup didn't hurt. Now what if Payton got hit health
Speaker 1: it and went long beach on him? Right now, you're
Speaker 1: calling him a bad kid because oh, he's supposed to
Speaker 1: play this like God, not like like I know matter,
Speaker 1: I know, Roy, Yeah, just like he got a bad
Speaker 1: reputation off of that one incident. He's a great dude.
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, man, all it takes is one
Speaker 1: situation where it gets out of control and then they'll
Speaker 1: try to blame the dude being crazy. Oh he's a
Speaker 1: lunatic for going up in the stand. Shoot, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's there was U. Why do you think Russell's always
Speaker 1: getting into it with somebody? You talk? Because you tell
Speaker 1: us one of the worst places to play when you're
Speaker 1: an opposing team, because it's some of the things that
Speaker 1: they call you. You know what I'm saying, Russell's always
Speaker 1: getting into it with somebody in Utah, Utah and Arizona
Speaker 1: are they are the worst UH fans to go into
Speaker 1: their arena and play against because of some of the
Speaker 1: things that are said, possibly something being thrown at you. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't mind the you know, behind the curtain thing.
Speaker 1: That's cool, that's funny. You know, it's distracting unless you're
Speaker 1: keeping your focus. That's that's that's that's a cool thing
Speaker 1: for the students, and that's you know. And then and
Speaker 1: then if you know people hell, I've been saying, people
Speaker 1: called me all kind of names. Said I sapt that
Speaker 1: didn't bother me. You know what I'm saying, It didn't
Speaker 1: bother me. There chance they But you have a saying
Speaker 1: f you Tiger or f you Johnny. That's going too far, man,
Speaker 1: Don't you know what I mean? It's like, yeah, say
Speaker 1: they sucked. That's cool. They were used to being said
Speaker 1: that we sucked. But then start doing that stuff, and
Speaker 1: you've got people's parents understands fighting people after the game
Speaker 1: because they can't get out of the arena because they're
Speaker 1: out of control. There were there were some of our
Speaker 1: parents that were fighting people. I didn't know that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they got into it with some of these fans
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Yeah. Well yeah, and it looks it's it's unruly.
Speaker 1: It gets heated out there. There's no question the library
Speaker 1: to people don't understand when you you have and what
Speaker 1: and what people What people don't also want to understand
Speaker 1: is how civilized our fans are in Westwood. So it's
Speaker 1: their hands half the time, looks like but but but
Speaker 1: civil civilized? But Tracy, I mean, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't hear of of I can imagine. I cannot
Speaker 1: imagine any opposing team person to ever experience anything like
Speaker 1: what we have to experience when we go to Poem
Speaker 1: and Eugene corvallis Tucson. Like the stuff that's said, it's
Speaker 1: it's like it's lightweight, it's it's it's real serious, right
Speaker 1: they And so I'm not I'm not trying to I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to say mac Mac had right to do
Speaker 1: what he did. His response was horrible. He should probably
Speaker 1: should have really reconsidered doing that. If you're gotta do something,
Speaker 1: you know, you might as well. If you're gonna get
Speaker 1: caught up, you might, well, you know, get caught up.
Speaker 1: But now, but anyway, he should have just kept pushing.
Speaker 1: But keep your head down and keep walking through that.
Speaker 1: Being said, You're gonna be pissed off, but keep your
Speaker 1: head down and keep walking through that. Being saying. Fan
Speaker 1: behavior does need to be um defy, it needs to
Speaker 1: be regulations on. You can't just say whatever you want
Speaker 1: to these especially these college kids. There's a little different
Speaker 1: than projects, right right, Yeah, college kids. Like it's like
Speaker 1: even as a broadcaster, there's certain there's certain things I'll
Speaker 1: say about college kids because they're kids. They're not pro
Speaker 1: they're not being paid to play this game. So I'm
Speaker 1: I'm less harsh on college players, you know, because their
Speaker 1: kids and they're trying to figure it out. Now a
Speaker 1: pro getting paid a lot of money, you can you
Speaker 1: can be a little bit more direct and it maybe
Speaker 1: a criticism. But one thing about me though, is I
Speaker 1: always think back to when I played and what I
Speaker 1: like what I'm saying about another player. So I'm I'm
Speaker 1: always thinking about what I'm gonna say before I say it,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to offend other player number one,
Speaker 1: even if they're pro um, because I was there at
Speaker 1: one point. So I always think about what I said
Speaker 1: before I said. You said something interesting just about because
Speaker 1: I brought this up to Sean Farnham when I had
Speaker 1: him on the show. We were talking, I was asking Sean.
Speaker 1: I was like, Sean, are you gotta cover guys differently
Speaker 1: with now that they're able to get paid off the
Speaker 1: n i L. Or is this going to take a
Speaker 1: couple of years before we start to transition from amateur
Speaker 1: college kids to now n I L money getting you know,
Speaker 1: pseudo pros. How do you what are your thoughts on
Speaker 1: Tracy just how the n I L has either negatively
Speaker 1: or positively affected the college athletics well, well, first of all,
Speaker 1: I just thought we should have been getting something a
Speaker 1: long time ago. So so shout out and wait, wait,
Speaker 1: shout all they had Obanna for putting a certain reputation
Speaker 1: on the line so they can get his name, his
Speaker 1: name and it's black anything. You know how they didn't.
Speaker 1: You know how they're doing him too with the name.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So shout out to shout
Speaker 1: out to add for for putting his reputation on the line.
Speaker 1: Two for these kids to benefit from it. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: all for it. Um. There's been many nights where yes,
Speaker 1: full scholarship didn't pay for books. I'm very thankful for
Speaker 1: all of that, but there were there were nights I
Speaker 1: couldn't take my girlfriend to the movies or dinner, bro
Speaker 1: because I wrote, so it is where it is. The
Speaker 1: Brewing Gold card can only get you so much. Um.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, And I'm tired of youtotistics and pride, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um, the the we didn't get
Speaker 1: training table, I mean, things are a lot different now
Speaker 1: for the kids with the practice facilities, the food, the food,
Speaker 1: you know, the nutrition, the food that's there for them
Speaker 1: to take care of their bodies and stuff. And I'm
Speaker 1: happy you c l A did that. Man, you know
Speaker 1: they have you know, uh moving forward. It's also good
Speaker 1: for recruiting to to be able to show that you're
Speaker 1: up on what's going on practice facility wise, nutrition wise
Speaker 1: and all of that. So, uh, shout shout out to
Speaker 1: to them for doing that. But I mean, we had
Speaker 1: training table and I'm pretty sure you got this is
Speaker 1: the same thing for you guys. We had training table
Speaker 1: until football season was over. Then it was like you
Speaker 1: guys spent you know, and I'm like, wait a minute, football,
Speaker 1: you know, but but but you know, it's it's more
Speaker 1: of them, so they're trying to commentate. It was also
Speaker 1: during the era Let's keep it real and Athletic Department
Speaker 1: when they were football was they were rocking with football
Speaker 1: pretty heavily. Let's keeping our coach wasn't necessarily the most beloved,
Speaker 1: but that's for another podcast. I think I think that
Speaker 1: they're always rocking with football because football puts more butts
Speaker 1: and seats and they're trying to fill that rolls bow
Speaker 1: up and they're trying to they keep trying to build
Speaker 1: that program to be where basketball is or women's softball
Speaker 1: is and women's jump not us. Did you know where
Speaker 1: they win in national championships and stuff. But football players
Speaker 1: are gonna look at football schools. We're trying to be one,
Speaker 1: but that's not our tradition. So it's gonna always be
Speaker 1: a challenge to try to bring football to the forefront
Speaker 1: because that's not our tradition. I have we had great
Speaker 1: players come out of there. Absolutely, We've had some greatness
Speaker 1: come out to Joan Dude. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: my my my uncle, Chrisman. I mean, um, not Chris, Chris, Dad,
Speaker 1: James mccolleg school, Um, God rest his soul. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: there there were some great NFL guys, Eric Turner got
Speaker 1: drested soul, you know, Matt Marcus Patton, all those guys
Speaker 1: and Charles are. But for guys that I went to
Speaker 1: school with, you know, uh, Troy Aikman right before me.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of great football players that come through
Speaker 1: our school, but it's not a football school. So so
Speaker 1: guys are thinking second guests. Maybe we're second or third
Speaker 1: on people on the top guy's list because they're looking
Speaker 1: at traditionally the football policy. Yeah, so that's gonna always
Speaker 1: be a challenge for us. Yeah, it is, and I
Speaker 1: think that though the new athletic director, coupled with you know,
Speaker 1: this eight and fourth season and Chip Kelly's for year extension,
Speaker 1: I think that there's still gonna be some life there.
Speaker 1: We got everybody coming back, d J t uh Dt,
Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson, Robinson, d excuse me, d t R, all
Speaker 1: these dayn acronyms, and then uh Charbonnette, Zack Sharbinnett, Arnette,
Speaker 1: night Erde night Light Ski, Curly Harkatt. You know, I
Speaker 1: think he's a Johnson so I rock with So I'm
Speaker 1: rocked with. He kind of heavy, but now I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to the program getting back over. Yeah, yeah, those
Speaker 1: guys are. They're all coming back, so that's a good thing. Man.
Speaker 1: What's your football? The best? Man? And I hope they
Speaker 1: do well next year, you know, man, yeah, man, But man, hey,
Speaker 1: it's it's been a real conversation. Brother. Um. It's amazing
Speaker 1: to hear you talk about just your journey man and
Speaker 1: getting to the us A Hall of Fame. I've known
Speaker 1: you for years, and every time I talked to you
Speaker 1: always find out something kind of new and interesting about
Speaker 1: you that I didn't know from the time before. My brother,
Speaker 1: But hey, man, you're doing a great job this year
Speaker 1: with the Bruins. We're gonna be watching y'all closely, as
Speaker 1: you already know on the check in and uh, man,
Speaker 1: enjoy this Hall of Fame moment. Enjoy the glory from it, brother,
Speaker 1: because they can never take it away. Thank you, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you there's no feeling like it. I still
Speaker 1: bid goose bumps. I still you know, I'm glad I
Speaker 1: didn't have water works on the on the podium. I
Speaker 1: was really close. If I kept looking at my mom,
Speaker 1: I would have had it. Bro. I turned the focus.
Speaker 1: Mom was over. They're just going. And then when I'm done,
Speaker 1: this is a crazy When I'm done, I walked to
Speaker 1: my seat and my seven year old is I'm like,
Speaker 1: old is getting missed in? Here is getting right? Man?
Speaker 1: So you know, as I say again, man, it was.
Speaker 1: It was cool for them. Um. It's definitely an honor
Speaker 1: for me, um to to understand fully what it is
Speaker 1: to be a u c l A Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: and and it's really really humbling. Absolutely, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: U c l A Hall of Famer. Tracy Mary out,
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