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This is kJ 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:14.560 Live with Chris Johnson Allen and Chris is having conversations 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.000 with influencers in the sports world and entertainment in this strain. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:25.000 Now here's Chris Johnson. You're now tuned in the kJ Live. 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:30.400 Today's guests on the show is newly named u c 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.080 l L A Athletics Hall of Famer u c L 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.880 A Basketball Legend. Tracy Murray is in the building. T Murray, 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.959 what's up, Doc? You're doing on broad Day? Yeah, I'm 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.600 back on K Day Live. Man, I'm back, Dog, I'm back. 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.120 He was one of my first guests. You were one 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.840 of my best guests. You gave me so much good stuff. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.160 You've broken down about the team in the locker room 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:56.680 with kJ. I mean the poster, remember that, I mean 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:01.120 if that was funny, Dog, that really we had a 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.600 great episode. Man, Now you're you're a big reason why 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:06.800 this is the momentum. This thing really started to pick up. Man. 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.800 But man, let's talk about you for a second. Brother. 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.880 How do you feel about being named a U Athletics 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.200 Hall of Fame? Does it change the perception that you 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:22.480 have of yourself? You know, and you you know this 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.080 because you have confidence in what you've done in your career, 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.440 in your game. You you know, you know where you're 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:35.040 stand on where you should be. Um, it's a tremendous honor, 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:37.440 you know what I mean, that's an honor that you. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.520 I mean, how many people go into the Hall of Fame, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:47.200 the same hall of fame as Jackie Robinson, authors, John Wooden, 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:53.280 your dad, Kareem, I mean, the rest of my brewing brothers. 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.720 I mean, Jackie, Jordan, Curtsey come on, man and Myers 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:02.239 Drysdale come. I mean, like, it's it's so humbling, that 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.200 is emotional, you know, you just you just kind of 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.880 like right now I'm getting I'm getting goose bumps right 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.959 now just talking about it, just going through that whole process, 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.560 you know, and finding out to the lead up to 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:21.680 the night. As it got closer, I got more and 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.679 more nervous, I got more and more edgy. I got 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.480 more and more stressed. And then when you're there and 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.840 you're sitting there, you're hearing all these great inspiring speeches, 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.120 and the last thing you're thinking that I don't want 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.280 to mess this up, bro, you know. And then the 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.480 first thing they did was make a joke about Toby 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:44.040 having the record being up there over an hour. I 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:48.280 was there. I was there until we were spitting huh, unbelievable. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:56.160 I've never seen anything like Tolby didn't told me shot 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.880 it out. Everybody died. Yeah, man, you know what bro 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.040 I mean. But that's your moment, you know what I'm saying, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.320 and you don't know if you're gonna get that moment again. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.720 So you got people up there going off the dome, 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.600 and I'm like, I'm not a speech reader. I go 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.560 off the dome too, and I go with what I feel. 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.479 But I have to have some paper there to make 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:22.039 sure I don't forget anybody. I got an outline to 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.520 keep me on track, you know what I mean. I 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:27.120 don't have just a full blown speech. I gotta outline 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.520 to keep me on track. So I wanted to make 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:33.760 sure I got you know, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.560 I wanted to make sure that first and foremost. It 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:39.680 was difficult getting me into u c l A. Because 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:42.039 I was an athlete student I want a student athlete, 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:46.360 so they had, you know, Mike Signerheimer had to jump 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.640 through whoops to get me up in that piece, you know, 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.760 on the academic side, to convince people to give me 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.680 a chance. So I shouted him out. I shouted Mark 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.640 Della's out. I shouted, you know, all of these guys out, 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.200 Bill bend at It and Steve Rourke, you know, people 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:05.599 that made us look good. You know, without basketball, without 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.880 the media, how does the basketball get exposure. You know, 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.159 all of those people made us look good. So I 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.440 had to, you know, shout Mike would getting me in school. 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.800 I had um you know, through through all the ups 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.640 and downs of academics, you know him. I had to 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.640 shout out Mike Consists for for being there when I 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.800 came back fifteen years later, you know, afterwards, and you 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.560 know that's that's difficult, man, because you're the oldest dude 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.880 in the class in the morning with the students, the 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.520 regular studes, and then at night you're the youngest one 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.800 in the class with all the older old heads. You 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.200 know what I'm saying. It was. It was an experience, man. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.960 But you know, Mike consisus helped me through all of that. So, 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:47.880 you know, Coach Harrif was there. You know, I had 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.720 to shout him and the staff out. You know, I 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:54.320 shouted all of my teammates out, the M and M boys, 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.679 you know, all the way through O'Bannon, Tarvor and Ugly 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.000 and Zedek through to the one was like lou Ritchie, 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.719 you know, I have an appreciation for them. I shout 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:08.479 out the managers and and uh and the great Tony 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:11.640 spin No man because he kept us healthy. Bro. So 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:15.480 it's like there's a lot of people that you know, 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.159 and of course, last and not least, you know your family. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.840 That that's the one that that gets you emotional, that's 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.000 the one to get you choked up. We had the 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.119 five four with me, my mom, my dad, my brother, 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.320 and started with that. We're the ones that went through 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.680 the ground. We're the ones that went through the whole 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.520 career thing. But then you know we had to. This 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:36.640 was and even in the kind of kill the curtain 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:40.720 back a little bit for those who weren't there, my wife, 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:46.440 my kids, my son, uh and those who are whoever else, 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.599 my in laws and everybody else that was at the table. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.599 You know, you kind of pulling the curtain back on 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.320 Tracy Murray the basketball player, because they didn't know that guy. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.880 They know daddy, they know husband, they know you know 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:03.280 son in law, they don't know the murder the basketball player. Uh, 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.880 what's which is? You know? It was cool to see 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:11.080 them all enjoy the evening. What part of your U 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.920 c l A experience do you look back upon and 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.720 it gives you great pride or joy or you just 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.480 have like a great unbelievable feeling on the inside when 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.960 you think about it. Is there is there a certain moment? 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.800 Are there a series of moments? Is there a certain 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:27.880 experience associated with u c l A. You said a 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:29.680 basketball that you look back on it at all that 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:33.680 gives you that feeling outside of being a you know, 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.960 a husband and a father and you know a family 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:38.800 man right now, you know, because this is the best 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:40.880 time in my life. I mean seeing my kids grow 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.880 up and doing there every day right now, this is 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.240 the best time in my life. But the best time 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.200 my life before that was c l A. It wasn't 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.200 the league. Everybody's thinking this the league. It wasn't the league. 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.720 It was U c l A. My three years with 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:58.720 the guys that I was on the team with, we 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.000 had a ball all man and it was you know, 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.160 come on, you went through it, Bro. You know, it's 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:08.320 like you got access to everything being right there. Um, 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:13.000 you're going from a boy to a man. Um, you're 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.680 making your own decisions really for the first time in 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.080 your life. Without parents and influences you got, You're figuring 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:22.400 the ship out, so you know, I mean, it's fun 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.240 figuring it out. Bro, You're gonna make some mistakes, but 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.480 you yeah, yeah it is. But but then at the 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.480 same time you're gonna reel yourself in because you know 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:33.720 you've got responsibilities. You know, you know you gotta stay 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.520 on a certain path. So you know, it was it 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.920 was fun. Man. I have a lot of like even 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.120 not not just my teammates, Man, the people want to 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:46.800 freshman summer programs like those are my people. To this day, 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.439 I'm still in touch with him. We go golf and 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:51.560 we go we go over each other's houses. We chill 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.040 like I have a special bond man with those people 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.200 I went to school with here. Absolutely and when you 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.240 speak about sort of that the time of your life 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.160 where you're coming of age and you're making your own 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.480 decisions for the first time, you're figuring it out and 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.520 it just so happens. We experienced that with the backdrop 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.280 of Westwood. And when you say, l a basketball across 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.120 our chest, so that are I think our experiences is 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.840 very unique in that sense in that U. C. L. A. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:20.319 Westwood is sort of an epicenter for basketball and athletics 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.959 and life. So we kind of get used to being 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.559 treated a certain way when you're when you're in that 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.240 zone and in that mode. And then when I and 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.679 like you say when you talked about the league, well, 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.000 I have the overseas experience, and you know U c 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.439 l A steal to this day is the greatest experience. 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.080 And I think it's just to the points that you 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.679 make just for that reason, that come of age reason. Man, 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.240 that's awesome. And to see you get come full circle 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.880 and now named a Hall of Famer, bro, I mean, 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.600 there's no better feeling. Could Did you ever imagine when 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.400 you were younger, after your you know, fourteen years old, 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.040 you get the hip surgery. You're you're sitting in your 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.280 on the hospital bed after your surgery. The doctors are 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.160 telling you you may never play basketball. Can't in your 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.760 wildest dreams, Tracy Murray, did you ever think that you 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:09.240 would be on that stage the other night accepting that plaque? Brother, 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.920 Not at all, because just on a normal sense, not 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:19.480 not just on a on a on a basketball ending sense, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.240 you know, not, not not with the hip surgery, just 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.960 on a regular thought process. You're not thinking Hall of 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.280 Fame when you when you're out there grinding and you 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.880 play and you're thinking, I want to get to the league, 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.280 you know, or I want to achieve my dreams, you know. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.240 I mean, hall of fame doesn't even come in the mind. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.560 It doesn't even come into the mental picture, you know 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.679 what I mean. You just start paying attention to Hall 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:47.600 of Fame stuff when you're old and done and other 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:51.120 people start talking about other people like you're your fears 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.160 go in and it's like, oh too, this might be 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:58.360 a possibility of something else. But but I mean, in 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.319 that in that hospital bed man, all I was hoping 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:06.800 and praying for was a second chance. Somebody passed me 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.360 up and let me get back out there. I won't 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:12.760 take this game for granted again. M hmm, yeah, that 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:16.360 must I mean. And you have a very unique career 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.880 that since that three years of high school, three years 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.000 of college you did. You accomplished in three years of 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.199 high school. You accomplish in three years in college with 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.679 most cats don't accomplish in five years. You can read 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:28.320 shirt six years and don't be a top ten at 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.439 U c l A and from the three as a senior. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.080 I want to talk about the work, and this would 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:35.760 be my final thing on your Hall of Fame journe. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.640 I wanna talk about the work. What did it take? 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.640 The work, the daily grind, the Tracy Murray grind, the 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.760 stuff I grew up watching idolizing and I implemented in 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:45.760 my game. I want you to tell people, though, from 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.680 your words, what type of work did it take on 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.840 a daily basis to achieve the heights that you achieve? Tracy, Well, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.200 I'll tell you what price. It's. It's like you know 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.920 you and I remember your grind. I remember yours, and 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.920 you know that you were doing every day to get right. Um, 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:08.199 excuse me. Coming from a hip surgery, you have to 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.439 learn how to walk all over again. You know that. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.920 That's that's humbling, bro. You gotta learn how to walk 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.520 all over again. So then you turn a walk into 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.360 a run. You're running with a limp, So you turn 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.280 a walk with a limp, run with a limp into 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:29.160 run regularly, walk regularly. That's that's first and foremost. I 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.079 was already already had big feet, and I was already slow. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:36.160 I wasn't the quickest dude in the world anyway, So 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:41.079 now I gotta work that much harder to be quicker 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:46.000 than I was after the surgery. So you know how 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.480 you know, everybody that that's played this game for a 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.640 significant amount of time has been injured and had to 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.000 do rehab and come back and all of that. So 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.400 the rehab back then wasn't like what it is now. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:02.440 So it was different. It was just it was just okay, 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.760 figure this thing out. It wasn't like, okay, do this, 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.400 do that. We're gonna go over this exercise and this 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.760 is gonna strengthen this area up, which is gonna strengthen 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.080 this area up and then you'll be fine. It wasn't 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:16.720 none of that. People are so detailed now with rehab. 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:22.240 I didn't have that. So it was just regular stretching, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:28.679 leg waights, um ump stuff you did on your own 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.600 kind of My dad used he used a lot of 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.440 old school stuff that he used when when when he played, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.240 So it was you know, just regularly jump ropen, running 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.320 in the sand, running in the pool, uh, swimming, you know, 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:46.640 just to get your legs back strong and right. Uh 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:50.440 you know, squats and and and and uh, lunges and 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.760 you know, all the old school stuff. Bro. But but 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.240 I was like a fanatic though, because I didn't listen 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.559 to my dad before. I was just of the kids 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.079 that had a belly. I can shoot the ship out 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:10.240 of the ball, but I couldn't move. But I used 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:15.120 my shooting here right, So I used my my shooting 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.719 with my aid. But you know, once people say, oh 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:19.800 you can do is shoot, what else are you gonna do, 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.600 especially if you can't move. I get blocked shots because 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:28.280 I'm still long, but I couldn't guard. So athleticism, the 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.080 game was going more and more athletic. When when I'm 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:36.080 on a team when I'm thirteen years old with the 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:39.160 Derek Martin and the mental Butler and Mentell Butler was 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:43.840 a phenomenal athlete ben So when you see that, it's like, boy, 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.760 I got some work to do. I'm not. I'm not. 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.640 I'm not. I'm not gonna be that athletic. But I 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.880 gotta catch at least get half of the athleticism. So 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:57.560 that's when all the saying workouts and then jumping rope 0:14:57.840 --> 0:14:59.680 and all of that stuff. You know, the quicken the 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:04.280 feed up because I can always run fast forward beside 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:09.120 laterally I was slow, um so you know, uh, tires 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:12.960 can tell you how fast I was. The infamous step 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:18.920 show night. What happened? We're at at the shrine. At 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:23.480 the shrine auditorious, right, So it's it's you know, it's 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.840 falling there. It's a capacity and not letting us in 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.480 the whole splide outside me and and Ed was you 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.720 know he was still hopping around a little bit. Yeah 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:37.800 it's me. Yeah. So you know, we're all outside tarvar tires. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.680 We're all banging on doors. So I get let in 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.680 and all of a sudden we hear some shots. So 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.840 we're up the block. Yeah, Ed hurdles this guy in 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.240 a wheelchair and his leg is done. Hurdles the guy, 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.680 crazy dog. I'm like, damn, hurdle the wheelchair. So we 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.840 hit that corner. I'm heading up to this. I passed 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:03.800 tass like we get to the end of the black time, Like, 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:06.120 damn t Murray. I didn't know you were that fast. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:16.000 Put a bullet on my know how times are saying 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:20.680 it too. That's why I'm laughing. I turned the time, 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.040 I turned the tiss out of breath. I said, you 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:30.280 put a bullet on my ass. I'm real fast. Goldbody's 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.800 been that old Richard Pryor joke. When I mean, you know, 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:37.120 turn that hat backwards. Man. You you know what I'm 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:45.440 talking about, y'all go oh, that's so funny. So yeah, 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:49.360 so I mean running the floor straight on fast breaks, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.280 we're running for dunk. So you're hitting, you're hitting that lane, 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.240 you know, like, all right, who's going to dunk on that? Yeah? 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.440 A three on two, two on one drills was a 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:03.479 mom boy, because we're trying to bang on legendary legendary. Yeah. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.800 So that so I always could move forward, but side 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.239 to side I had to work on that absolutely, man, 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.000 And and you did it and you got it together. Brother. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:16.359 I mean, just congratulations on that career. Man. I wanted 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:18.760 to move on and talk about this, the current iteration 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.800 and some Bruins that may one day have their name 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:26.399 in the Hall of Fame. Uh. This year's team UM 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.840 as of late, have held the last three opponents under 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.679 fifty six points. It seems like they have recalibrated on 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.679 the defensive end after hitting a bad stretch with a 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.080 couple of bad losses. What are your thoughts on what 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:42.200 has happened defensively for the Bruins to change the time. 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.760 I think they're starting to tune up for March, you know, 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:51.840 because I don't know how you felt about about the season, 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:56.360 but I always felt with in a thirty game season, 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.879 we don't have that many games, so go hard all 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:04.520 the time. I think this generation feels like there's always tomorrow, 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:08.280 you know what I'm saying. They're watching guys, you know, 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.720 take breaks in the league, and they feel like they 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:16.120 can take nights off. And you don't have that many 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.280 days in college to be evaluated for the next level 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.240 to feel like you can take a night off. That's 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.880 why I don't think they understand. And I'm not I'm 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.280 not talking about from injury. If you hurt, your hurt, 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.720 but you can't be out there just okay, I'm not 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.399 gonna get my maximum to day. We're gonna just walk 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.159 and win this game. It doesn't work that way in 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.600 the pack, twep, you're gonna get stunned. People trying to 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.320 beat you. Yeah, you got u c l A across 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:45.320 your chest, come up, We'll hate you. So they're gonna 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.119 play their best game against you. And I keep telling 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.479 people all the time, I don't care if it's an 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:52.600 interview or if it's talking to one of these young cats. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:56.480 I'm like little fellas or whoever I'm talking to We're 0:18:56.480 --> 0:19:01.800 gonna get everybody's best shot. Whether it's sister, the poor, 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:06.640 or Washington State or anybody, We're gonna get their best shot. Yeah. 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.560 Ship califinally came in u c l A about seven 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.320 eight years ago when when our program was down and 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:16.919 got a w in Polly Pavilion. Yeah, that one of 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.679 the downtimes and in u c l A history. But 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:24.760 why because everybody you play is gonna get your best shot. 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:29.680 The Reeves, Nelson, uh, Josh Smith year, we go over 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:34.200 to Ontario, out in Ontario, rain over there and almost 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.639 loosed the San Bernardino because they got a bunch of 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:40.560 D one bounce back and they gave us their best shot. Yeah. 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:44.760 So it's like you gotta you gotta put when the 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:48.000 life come on, Man, you crossed those lines. You gotta 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.000 be ready. You gotta have your war paint on already 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.600 because people are gonna give you their best. And you 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:58.800 think Coach cronin Um turned up his intensity, turned up 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.120 his emphasis on the d interment or is it something 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.840 that he probably did. He probably did, because I mean 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.359 he he stresses it all the time and he tells 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:10.280 them all the time. But I think I think the 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.960 intensity has been up to last like three or four games. 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:18.160 They got to understand that there's no one guy on 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:22.119 this team that they say, Happa boy fellas, jump in 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.240 the backpack and let me carry the rest of the way. 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.520 There's nobody ever seem they can do that. I think 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:30.200 when U. C. L a. Is at their best is 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:33.439 when they're holding people in the fifties and they have 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.560 five players in double figures. Yes, that's when they're at 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:40.320 their best. It's not you know, two guys getting twenty something, 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:46.120 it's five, six guys double figures and they're locking up. 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:48.040 That's when they're at their best. That's what took them 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.840 from the playing game to the final four. Yeah, I 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:54.040 agree with that assessment. I think that from what I've 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:57.480 seen as of late versus early on in the season. 0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.600 I was in Vegas and I watched them up close 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.320 couple of times this year. I just see an increased 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.240 sense of urgency on the defensive end. I think people 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:09.080 have taken off their cool jackets. Now guys are getting 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.000 down in the stands. They're trying to pick up ninety 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.600 four feet. They're using their hands, their talk and switches 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:18.439 are hard and with purpose. Everybody's doing stuff with purpose. 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.680 And I'll tell you what Miles Johnson he when he 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:25.280 plays that big active game, whether it be crashing the glass, 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:27.560 trying to get tip dunk, whether it be challenges, showing 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.280 hard on screens and rolls. But his thing is his motor. 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.320 To me, when he does that, we are hard to 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:37.600 be Obviously. Jalen Clark has really stepped up his level. 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:43.000 I wanted to talk about him bro that that Ada 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.119 Wanda kid and I had a chance to do do 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.600 his game in high school and I was really sold 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.120 on him. And I was kind of gassed on him 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.439 because I envisioned him doing what he's doing now on 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:57.400 this level. The ability to handle the ball make decisions 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:00.560 is something I thought was underrated about Jay Clark. He's 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:02.199 one of the most versatile players in the country. What 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:06.520 do you think his upside is as far as a player. 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:10.560 I think it's upside. Its huge. The reason why the 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:15.240 reason why I say it is he competes defensively all 0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:18.920 the time. I called him the fireman for a reason. 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.840 He puts out fires. You can be on fire and 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:30.320 he'll sit over to you and it's extinguished. It's out there. 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:32.880 You know what I'm saying that's why I called him, 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:34.960 like when he was coming off the bed. If somebody's 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:38.679 fire was lit, then comes James. Here comes the fireman 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.879 to put out that fire. And then he doesn't. He doesn't, 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:45.080 and you can you can see even when he's in 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:47.600 the game, he put out the fire somebody else like 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:51.040 the fire he goes over that. It's like he's ships 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.720 and puts out fires the whole time. Now with a 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:59.560 healthy hootcast and Clark on the floor, that's lockdown city 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:04.159 and I was active. That's city. Yeah. Fox Sports Radio 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:07.080