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We trained Learning Partner. This is kJ 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: Live with Chris Johnson Allen and Chris is having conversations 20 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: with influencers in the sports world and entertainment in this strain. 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Now here's Chris Johnson. You're now tuned in the kJ Live. 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: Today's guests on the show is newly named u c 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: l L A Athletics Hall of Famer u c L 24 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: A Basketball Legend. Tracy Murray is in the building. T Murray, 25 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: what's up, Doc? You're doing on broad Day? Yeah, I'm 26 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: back on K Day Live. Man, I'm back, Dog, I'm back. 27 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: He was one of my first guests. You were one 28 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: of my best guests. You gave me so much good stuff. 29 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: You've broken down about the team in the locker room 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: with kJ. I mean the poster, remember that, I mean 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: if that was funny, Dog, that really we had a 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: great episode. Man, Now you're you're a big reason why 33 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: this is the momentum. This thing really started to pick up. Man. 34 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: But man, let's talk about you for a second. Brother. 35 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: How do you feel about being named a U Athletics 36 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? Does it change the perception that you 37 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: have of yourself? You know, and you you know this 38 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: because you have confidence in what you've done in your career, 39 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: in your game. You you know, you know where you're 40 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: stand on where you should be. Um, it's a tremendous honor, 41 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's an honor that you. 42 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean, how many people go into the Hall of Fame, 43 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: the same hall of fame as Jackie Robinson, authors, John Wooden, 44 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: your dad, Kareem, I mean, the rest of my brewing brothers. 45 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Jackie, Jordan, Curtsey come on, man and Myers 46 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: Drysdale come. I mean, like, it's it's so humbling, that 47 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: is emotional, you know, you just you just kind of 48 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: like right now I'm getting I'm getting goose bumps right 49 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: now just talking about it, just going through that whole process, 50 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, and finding out to the lead up to 51 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: the night. As it got closer, I got more and 52 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: more nervous, I got more and more edgy. I got 53 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: more and more stressed. And then when you're there and 54 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: you're sitting there, you're hearing all these great inspiring speeches, 55 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: and the last thing you're thinking that I don't want 56 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: to mess this up, bro, you know. And then the 57 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: first thing they did was make a joke about Toby 58 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: having the record being up there over an hour. I 59 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: was there. I was there until we were spitting huh, unbelievable. 60 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like Tolby didn't told me shot 61 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: it out. Everybody died. Yeah, man, you know what bro 62 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean. But that's your moment, you know what I'm saying, 63 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: and you don't know if you're gonna get that moment again. 64 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: So you got people up there going off the dome, 65 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not a speech reader. I go 66 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: off the dome too, and I go with what I feel. 67 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: But I have to have some paper there to make 68 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: sure I don't forget anybody. I got an outline to 69 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: keep me on track, you know what I mean. I 70 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: don't have just a full blown speech. I gotta outline 71 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: to keep me on track. So I wanted to make 72 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: sure I got you know, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 73 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that first and foremost. It 74 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: was difficult getting me into u c l A. Because 75 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: I was an athlete student I want a student athlete, 76 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: so they had, you know, Mike Signerheimer had to jump 77 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: through whoops to get me up in that piece, you know, 78 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: on the academic side, to convince people to give me 79 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: a chance. So I shouted him out. I shouted Mark 80 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: Della's out. I shouted, you know, all of these guys out, 81 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Bill bend at It and Steve Rourke, you know, people 82 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: that made us look good. You know, without basketball, without 83 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: the media, how does the basketball get exposure. You know, 84 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: all of those people made us look good. So I 85 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: had to, you know, shout Mike would getting me in school. 86 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: I had um you know, through through all the ups 87 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: and downs of academics, you know him. I had to 88 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: shout out Mike Consists for for being there when I 89 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: came back fifteen years later, you know, afterwards, and you 90 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: know that's that's difficult, man, because you're the oldest dude 91 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: in the class in the morning with the students, the 92 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: regular studes, and then at night you're the youngest one 93 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: in the class with all the older old heads. You 94 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It was. It was an experience, man. 95 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: But you know, Mike consisus helped me through all of that. So, 96 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, Coach Harrif was there. You know, I had 97 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: to shout him and the staff out. You know, I 98 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: shouted all of my teammates out, the M and M boys, 99 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 1: you know, all the way through O'Bannon, Tarvor and Ugly 100 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: and Zedek through to the one was like lou Ritchie, 101 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: you know, I have an appreciation for them. I shout 102 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: out the managers and and uh and the great Tony 103 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: spin No man because he kept us healthy. Bro. So 104 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: it's like there's a lot of people that you know, 105 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: and of course, last and not least, you know your family. 106 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: That that's the one that that gets you emotional, that's 107 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: the one to get you choked up. We had the 108 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 1: five four with me, my mom, my dad, my brother, 109 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: and started with that. We're the ones that went through 110 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: the ground. We're the ones that went through the whole 111 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: career thing. But then you know we had to. This 112 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: was and even in the kind of kill the curtain 113 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: back a little bit for those who weren't there, my wife, 114 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: my kids, my son, uh and those who are whoever else, 115 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: my in laws and everybody else that was at the table. 116 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: You know, you kind of pulling the curtain back on 117 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: Tracy Murray the basketball player, because they didn't know that guy. 118 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: They know daddy, they know husband, they know you know 119 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: son in law, they don't know the murder the basketball player. Uh, 120 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: what's which is? You know? It was cool to see 121 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: them all enjoy the evening. What part of your U 122 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: c l A experience do you look back upon and 123 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: it gives you great pride or joy or you just 124 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: have like a great unbelievable feeling on the inside when 125 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: you think about it. Is there is there a certain moment? 126 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: Are there a series of moments? Is there a certain 127 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: experience associated with u c l A. You said a 128 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: basketball that you look back on it at all that 129 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: gives you that feeling outside of being a you know, 130 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: a husband and a father and you know a family 131 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: man right now, you know, because this is the best 132 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: time in my life. I mean seeing my kids grow 133 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: up and doing there every day right now, this is 134 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: the best time in my life. But the best time 135 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: my life before that was c l A. It wasn't 136 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: the league. Everybody's thinking this the league. It wasn't the league. 137 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: It was U c l A. My three years with 138 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: the guys that I was on the team with, we 139 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: had a ball all man and it was you know, 140 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: come on, you went through it, Bro. You know, it's 141 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: like you got access to everything being right there. Um, 142 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: you're going from a boy to a man. Um, you're 143 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: making your own decisions really for the first time in 144 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: your life. Without parents and influences you got, You're figuring 145 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: the ship out, so you know, I mean, it's fun 146 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: figuring it out. Bro, You're gonna make some mistakes, but 147 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: you yeah, yeah it is. But but then at the 148 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: same time you're gonna reel yourself in because you know 149 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: you've got responsibilities. You know, you know you gotta stay 150 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: on a certain path. So you know, it was it 151 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: was fun. Man. I have a lot of like even 152 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: not not just my teammates, Man, the people want to 153 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: freshman summer programs like those are my people. To this day, 154 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: I'm still in touch with him. We go golf and 155 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: we go we go over each other's houses. We chill 156 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: like I have a special bond man with those people 157 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: I went to school with here. Absolutely and when you 158 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: speak about sort of that the time of your life 159 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: where you're coming of age and you're making your own 160 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: decisions for the first time, you're figuring it out and 161 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: it just so happens. We experienced that with the backdrop 162 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: of Westwood. And when you say, l a basketball across 163 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: our chest, so that are I think our experiences is 164 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: very unique in that sense in that U. C. L. A. 165 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: Westwood is sort of an epicenter for basketball and athletics 166 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: and life. So we kind of get used to being 167 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: treated a certain way when you're when you're in that 168 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: zone and in that mode. And then when I and 169 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: like you say when you talked about the league, well, 170 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: I have the overseas experience, and you know U c 171 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: l A steal to this day is the greatest experience. 172 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: And I think it's just to the points that you 173 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: make just for that reason, that come of age reason. Man, 174 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: that's awesome. And to see you get come full circle 175 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: and now named a Hall of Famer, bro, I mean, 176 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: there's no better feeling. Could Did you ever imagine when 177 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: you were younger, after your you know, fourteen years old, 178 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: you get the hip surgery. You're you're sitting in your 179 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: on the hospital bed after your surgery. The doctors are 180 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: telling you you may never play basketball. Can't in your 181 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: wildest dreams, Tracy Murray, did you ever think that you 182 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: would be on that stage the other night accepting that plaque? Brother, 183 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Not at all, because just on a normal sense, not 184 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: not just on a on a on a basketball ending sense, 185 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, not, not not with the hip surgery, just 186 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: on a regular thought process. You're not thinking Hall of 187 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Fame when you when you're out there grinding and you 188 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: play and you're thinking, I want to get to the league, 189 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, or I want to achieve my dreams, you know. 190 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: I mean, hall of fame doesn't even come in the mind. 191 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't even come into the mental picture, you know 192 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: what I mean. You just start paying attention to Hall 193 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: of Fame stuff when you're old and done and other 194 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: people start talking about other people like you're your fears 195 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: go in and it's like, oh too, this might be 196 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: a possibility of something else. But but I mean, in 197 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: that in that hospital bed man, all I was hoping 198 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: and praying for was a second chance. Somebody passed me 199 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: up and let me get back out there. I won't 200 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: take this game for granted again. M hmm, yeah, that 201 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: must I mean. And you have a very unique career 202 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: that since that three years of high school, three years 203 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: of college you did. You accomplished in three years of 204 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: high school. You accomplish in three years in college with 205 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: most cats don't accomplish in five years. You can read 206 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: shirt six years and don't be a top ten at 207 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: U c l A and from the three as a senior. 208 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the work, and this would 209 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: be my final thing on your Hall of Fame journe. 210 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: I wanna talk about the work. What did it take? 211 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: The work, the daily grind, the Tracy Murray grind, the 212 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: stuff I grew up watching idolizing and I implemented in 213 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: my game. I want you to tell people, though, from 214 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: your words, what type of work did it take on 215 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: a daily basis to achieve the heights that you achieve? Tracy, Well, 216 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what price. It's. It's like you know 217 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: you and I remember your grind. I remember yours, and 218 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: you know that you were doing every day to get right. Um, 219 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: excuse me. Coming from a hip surgery, you have to 220 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: learn how to walk all over again. You know that. 221 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: That's that's humbling, bro. You gotta learn how to walk 222 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: all over again. So then you turn a walk into 223 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: a run. You're running with a limp, So you turn 224 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: a walk with a limp, run with a limp into 225 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: run regularly, walk regularly. That's that's first and foremost. I 226 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: was already already had big feet, and I was already slow. 227 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't the quickest dude in the world anyway, So 228 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: now I gotta work that much harder to be quicker 229 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: than I was after the surgery. So you know how 230 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, everybody that that's played this game for a 231 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: significant amount of time has been injured and had to 232 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: do rehab and come back and all of that. So 233 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: the rehab back then wasn't like what it is now. 234 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: So it was different. It was just it was just okay, 235 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: figure this thing out. It wasn't like, okay, do this, 236 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: do that. We're gonna go over this exercise and this 237 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: is gonna strengthen this area up, which is gonna strengthen 238 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: this area up and then you'll be fine. It wasn't 239 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: none of that. People are so detailed now with rehab. 240 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: I didn't have that. So it was just regular stretching, 241 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: leg waights, um ump stuff you did on your own 242 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: kind of My dad used he used a lot of 243 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: old school stuff that he used when when when he played, 244 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: So it was you know, just regularly jump ropen, running 245 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: in the sand, running in the pool, uh, swimming, you know, 246 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: just to get your legs back strong and right. Uh 247 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: you know, squats and and and and uh, lunges and 248 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, all the old school stuff. Bro. But but 249 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: I was like a fanatic though, because I didn't listen 250 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: to my dad before. I was just of the kids 251 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: that had a belly. I can shoot the ship out 252 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: of the ball, but I couldn't move. But I used 253 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: my shooting here right, So I used my my shooting 254 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: with my aid. But you know, once people say, oh 255 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: you can do is shoot, what else are you gonna do, 256 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: especially if you can't move. I get blocked shots because 257 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm still long, but I couldn't guard. So athleticism, the 258 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: game was going more and more athletic. When when I'm 259 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: on a team when I'm thirteen years old with the 260 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: Derek Martin and the mental Butler and Mentell Butler was 261 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: a phenomenal athlete ben So when you see that, it's like, boy, 262 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: I got some work to do. I'm not. I'm not. 263 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not gonna be that athletic. But I 264 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: gotta catch at least get half of the athleticism. So 265 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: that's when all the saying workouts and then jumping rope 266 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: and all of that stuff. You know, the quicken the 267 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: feed up because I can always run fast forward beside 268 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: laterally I was slow, um so you know, uh, tires 269 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: can tell you how fast I was. The infamous step 270 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: show night. What happened? We're at at the shrine. At 271 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: the shrine auditorious, right, So it's it's you know, it's 272 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: falling there. It's a capacity and not letting us in 273 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: the whole splide outside me and and Ed was you 274 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: know he was still hopping around a little bit. Yeah 275 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: it's me. Yeah. So you know, we're all outside tarvar tires. 276 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: We're all banging on doors. So I get let in 277 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we hear some shots. So 278 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: we're up the block. Yeah, Ed hurdles this guy in 279 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: a wheelchair and his leg is done. Hurdles the guy, 280 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: crazy dog. I'm like, damn, hurdle the wheelchair. So we 281 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: hit that corner. I'm heading up to this. I passed 282 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: tass like we get to the end of the black time, Like, 283 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: damn t Murray. I didn't know you were that fast. 284 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: Put a bullet on my know how times are saying 285 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: it too. That's why I'm laughing. I turned the time, 286 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: I turned the tiss out of breath. I said, you 287 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: put a bullet on my ass. I'm real fast. Goldbody's 288 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: been that old Richard Pryor joke. When I mean, you know, 289 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: turn that hat backwards. Man. You you know what I'm 290 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: talking about, y'all go oh, that's so funny. So yeah, 291 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: so I mean running the floor straight on fast breaks, 292 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: we're running for dunk. So you're hitting, you're hitting that lane, 293 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, like, all right, who's going to dunk on that? Yeah? 294 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: A three on two, two on one drills was a 295 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:03,479 Speaker 1: mom boy, because we're trying to bang on legendary legendary. Yeah. 296 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: So that so I always could move forward, but side 297 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 1: to side I had to work on that absolutely, man, 298 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: And and you did it and you got it together. Brother. 299 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: I mean, just congratulations on that career. Man. I wanted 300 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: to move on and talk about this, the current iteration 301 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: and some Bruins that may one day have their name 302 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Uh. This year's team UM 303 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: as of late, have held the last three opponents under 304 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: fifty six points. It seems like they have recalibrated on 305 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: the defensive end after hitting a bad stretch with a 306 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: couple of bad losses. What are your thoughts on what 307 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: has happened defensively for the Bruins to change the time. 308 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: I think they're starting to tune up for March, you know, 309 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: because I don't know how you felt about about the season, 310 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: but I always felt with in a thirty game season, 311 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: we don't have that many games, so go hard all 312 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: the time. I think this generation feels like there's always tomorrow, 313 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They're watching guys, you know, 314 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: take breaks in the league, and they feel like they 315 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: can take nights off. And you don't have that many 316 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: days in college to be evaluated for the next level 317 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: to feel like you can take a night off. That's 318 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: why I don't think they understand. And I'm not I'm 319 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: not talking about from injury. If you hurt, your hurt, 320 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: but you can't be out there just okay, I'm not 321 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: gonna get my maximum to day. We're gonna just walk 322 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: and win this game. It doesn't work that way in 323 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: the pack, twep, you're gonna get stunned. People trying to 324 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: beat you. Yeah, you got u c l A across 325 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: your chest, come up, We'll hate you. So they're gonna 326 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: play their best game against you. And I keep telling 327 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: people all the time, I don't care if it's an 328 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: interview or if it's talking to one of these young cats. 329 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm like little fellas or whoever I'm talking to We're 330 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: gonna get everybody's best shot. Whether it's sister, the poor, 331 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: or Washington State or anybody, We're gonna get their best shot. Yeah. 332 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: Ship califinally came in u c l A about seven 333 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: eight years ago when when our program was down and 334 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: got a w in Polly Pavilion. Yeah, that one of 335 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: the downtimes and in u c l A history. But 336 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: why because everybody you play is gonna get your best shot. 337 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: The Reeves, Nelson, uh, Josh Smith year, we go over 338 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: to Ontario, out in Ontario, rain over there and almost 339 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: loosed the San Bernardino because they got a bunch of 340 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: D one bounce back and they gave us their best shot. Yeah. 341 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: So it's like you gotta you gotta put when the 342 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: life come on, Man, you crossed those lines. You gotta 343 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: be ready. You gotta have your war paint on already 344 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: because people are gonna give you their best. And you 345 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: think Coach cronin Um turned up his intensity, turned up 346 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: his emphasis on the d interment or is it something 347 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: that he probably did. He probably did, because I mean 348 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: he he stresses it all the time and he tells 349 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: them all the time. But I think I think the 350 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: intensity has been up to last like three or four games. 351 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: They got to understand that there's no one guy on 352 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: this team that they say, Happa boy fellas, jump in 353 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: the backpack and let me carry the rest of the way. 354 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: There's nobody ever seem they can do that. I think 355 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: when U. C. L a. Is at their best is 356 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: when they're holding people in the fifties and they have 357 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: five players in double figures. Yes, that's when they're at 358 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: their best. It's not you know, two guys getting twenty something, 359 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: it's five, six guys double figures and they're locking up. 360 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: That's when they're at their best. That's what took them 361 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: from the playing game to the final four. Yeah, I 362 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: agree with that assessment. I think that from what I've 363 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: seen as of late versus early on in the season. 364 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: I was in Vegas and I watched them up close 365 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: couple of times this year. I just see an increased 366 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: sense of urgency on the defensive end. I think people 367 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: have taken off their cool jackets. Now guys are getting 368 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: down in the stands. They're trying to pick up ninety 369 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: four feet. They're using their hands, their talk and switches 370 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: are hard and with purpose. Everybody's doing stuff with purpose. 371 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what Miles Johnson he when he 372 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: plays that big active game, whether it be crashing the glass, 373 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: trying to get tip dunk, whether it be challenges, showing 374 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: hard on screens and rolls. But his thing is his motor. 375 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: To me, when he does that, we are hard to 376 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: be Obviously. Jalen Clark has really stepped up his level. 377 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about him bro that that Ada 378 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: Wanda kid and I had a chance to do do 379 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: his game in high school and I was really sold 380 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: on him. And I was kind of gassed on him 381 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: because I envisioned him doing what he's doing now on 382 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: this level. The ability to handle the ball make decisions 383 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: is something I thought was underrated about Jay Clark. He's 384 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: one of the most versatile players in the country. What 385 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: do you think his upside is as far as a player. 386 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: I think it's upside. Its huge. The reason why the 387 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: reason why I say it is he competes defensively all 388 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: the time. I called him the fireman for a reason. 389 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: He puts out fires. You can be on fire and 390 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: he'll sit over to you and it's extinguished. It's out there. 391 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that's why I called him, 392 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: like when he was coming off the bed. If somebody's 393 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: fire was lit, then comes James. Here comes the fireman 394 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: to put out that fire. And then he doesn't. He doesn't, 395 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: and you can you can see even when he's in 396 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: the game, he put out the fire somebody else like 397 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: the fire he goes over that. It's like he's ships 398 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: and puts out fires the whole time. Now with a 399 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: healthy hootcast and Clark on the floor, that's lockdown city 400 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: and I was active. That's city. Yeah. Fox Sports Radio 401 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 402 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: all of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com 403 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: and within the I Heart Radio app. Search f s 404 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: R to listen live. 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We train, learn, and partner. 428 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: And Jill's doing in Jill's doing what he does in 429 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: his positions. He's just he's he's struggling offensively, but defensively. 430 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: He's always there. He's concessive shot. He's always in front 431 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: of his man. So could you buy those four gods 432 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: with tigers? Yeah. More defensively, absolutely, I can imagine it 433 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: and and I envisioned it. But then mccronin has some 434 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: good problems because now you still have a Peyton Watson, 435 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: you still have a Cary Riley, you still have these 436 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: other guys at your disposal. And what I love, what 437 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: I've loved about the last three to four games from 438 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: the u c l A. Bruins is the fact that 439 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: certain guys have started to get off, and the team 440 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: seems to be trying to get those guys off. It 441 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be no hate to rate out there. 442 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: It seems to be we're gonna share the sugar. This 443 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: is the best I feel like they've shared the ball. 444 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: Everybody's sharing the four years. They're trying to prove a point, 445 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: everybody trying to prove a point, the show everybody we 446 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: can move the ball. I mean, it's unbelievable, the ball movement, 447 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: the unselfishness, tracy, and then the defensive cohesion. But I'm 448 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: gonna tell you that people don't understand how important that 449 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: is when it comes to winning basketball because all it 450 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: takes is one bad selfish shot or play and then 451 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: the other person, all the people being on selfish look 452 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: at that shot like two man, when you are right, 453 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: bring the ball over here. I'm taking me a bad 454 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: one now because this dude took like two bad ones 455 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: real quick, and and and he get off the page 456 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: of what we are. Yeah, I mean it's happened to 457 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: all of all of our teams in the past, and 458 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: thank you. And that's the elephant in the room those 459 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: I think that that for us at U c l A. 460 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: When you're playing alongside so many other talented individuals that 461 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: are asked to sacrifice their game for the greater good 462 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: of the team, them shots. You can't be taking no 463 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: bad shots because now it's gonna spread like wildfire. So 464 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: that our year, my year, we lose to a Princeton 465 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: because that attitude was prevalent. However, the year prior we 466 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: win a championship because sharing the sugar just kind of 467 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: ran through our our whole system. And this year's Bruins 468 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: to me, they're sharing the sugar now. I have a 469 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: specific question about himI. Himie is kind of you know, 470 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: he's been up with the injuries. How how does he 471 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: get himself back going? What's the best way? Tree? It's 472 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: it's tough because you know Mickey's mentioned you know him 473 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: not practicing, So how how do you have a rhythm? 474 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of tough when when he's trying 475 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: to get healthy and he's not practicing, you know, to 476 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: to have a rhythm in the game, it's gonna be 477 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: inconsistent because you need those reps. You need that rhythm. 478 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: You need to be in tip top shape because I 479 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: don't think when when you're not practicing, you're not in 480 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: tip top shape. So so I think, yeah, game shape, Yeah, 481 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: the game shape is different, man. And I think Hammate's 482 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: explosiveness is not there. He's playing on two bad ankles. Bro, 483 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: both of us are. It's not like one is messed 484 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: up and okay, let me go explode off there. You 485 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: can take off on the right right, So I mean 486 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: both of them are messed up. So just his whole 487 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: it affects you defensively, affects you with your shot, It 488 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: affects you rebounded, you know, it affects you period whole game. 489 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: And and so I think he is trying to learn 490 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: how to play under the rim, right now yeah, block 491 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: out more pursuitor ball um in the post. Use your 492 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: body of shoulders the free up space so you can 493 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: get your shot off as a post bump and explode 494 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: over because he doesn't have that less east to west, 495 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: shifty between the legs stuff. Now more pump fake one 496 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: two pounds, get to Tracy Murray Special Chris Johnson's special 497 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: up fake and go see you guys later figuring out. 498 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: But but Tracy, you already know Peyton Watson. Payton Watson 499 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: though he's he's a kid that has so much talent. 500 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: So much has been said about the NBA this and that. 501 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: I wonder if that if well, nothing that I don't 502 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: wonder it. I know that that has been something that 503 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: obviously is on his mind. But I would love to 504 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: see him just kind of find his groove as we 505 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: go into March. He still has been contributing. He looks 506 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: solid when he's out there struggling a little bit with 507 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: his shot. I feel like he is going to be 508 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: essential for a deep March run. Yeah. But but see 509 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: what he's got to do is come in and lose 510 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: himself on the defensive end. Yeah, come out there with 511 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: Peyton White, come out there with with Jalen Clark. You 512 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: know him miles, their length, athleticism, the defensive ability to 513 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: keep people in front of him and harassing while they're 514 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: dribbling their long arms, and be able to post the 515 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: ball the way. That's how he can get involved. He 516 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: can create turnovers, get into the open court, go get 517 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 1: that law or throw it to him for a dunk boom, 518 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 1: and he's ready now turn around. That's how he can 519 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: impact the game because right now he's not a great shooter. 520 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: He's not strong enough to put us at the rim 521 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: through track it. So he's he's a work in progress. 522 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: I do love his ball hand and playmaking skills because 523 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: he can go by a guy. Once he's decided to 524 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: go by him, he goes buy him and he makes 525 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: the right play. He makes the right play, sees everything. 526 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: So I love that part of him, and that part 527 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: of him would be like it would be excellent on 528 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: the Nuke level because the floor is more wide open. 529 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: The chief are not chipping in the lay illegal defense. 530 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: But in this situation where people can play his zones 531 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: or they play that sagging man, the man where everybody 532 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: would be in the pay if you can't not done 533 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: the jump shot, how can you get there? So that 534 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: if there's two things that he needs to work on, 535 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: and I know his game twenty five pounds, but he's 536 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: really got to work on strength and and uh and 537 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, just being able to finish at the rim 538 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: maybe dunk on some people. Um and his shot man. 539 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: He gotta get up eight hundred two thousand shots today. 540 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: Game speed, not not just you know, getting him up 541 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: cool ways. Game speed, because when you're in games, if 542 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: you're going game speed outside of the game, the game 543 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: speed is no problem and you have your your your 544 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: release point together to where you can knock down shots 545 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. But I watched him a lot, 546 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: and I try to talk to him a lot, you know, 547 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: because I know he's discouraged. I know that he's thinking 548 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: about the next level. He should only be thinking about 549 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: the n C Double A title right now, one game 550 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: by game, that's the only thing he should be thinking 551 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: about right now. But I think there's so much noise 552 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: outside of the u c l A circle with his 553 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: family telling League League League that he's thinking about that, 554 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: and it's putting excess pressure on him that he doesn't need. 555 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: He needs to just go hoop right now, there's already 556 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: enough pressure to play with. There were four letters across 557 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: your check. But now you're thinking about the league too, 558 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: and he's will have stuff that you need to work on. 559 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: So you know, at the end of the day, you know, yeah, 560 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean just game speed. If he can practice on 561 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: game speed. Um. Yeah, shots in the game, it's gonna 562 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: be the same. Your release point is the same. You're 563 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: shooting this now consistently, the same as opposed to take 564 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: in you know, the cool one month shots. You know 565 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: that's not the same shot you're gonna be shooting in 566 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: the game. How you expect to dot that shot down. 567 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: So once you understand that work ethic part of your shot, 568 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: then his shot can be consistent, which is gonna open 569 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: up his driving lanes and his playmaking ability and his 570 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: strength being in the waiverman's gonna help him finish out 571 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: the rim. Now you've got a totally different patent watching. 572 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: I just think that people outside the circle just need 573 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: to leave alone, let him go through his journey. Yeah. Absolutely. 574 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: And David Singleton though, was somebody that I feel like 575 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: has the work ethic and has honed his his craft 576 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: and dedicates his time in the gym since I've known him, 577 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: since he's been about eighth grade. He was he used 578 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: to be on the same team as my son, so 579 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: I got to watch his growth and journey. And what 580 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: I did know about David, he was gonna always be 581 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: in the gym with his dad. At any gym around 582 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: the country, around the city, around the state, you're gonna 583 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: see them to getting some shots up, probably around four 584 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: thirty five o'clock in the morning. And all that work 585 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: now is paying dividends to him. He has been huge 586 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: for the Bruins. If he continues to shoot the basketball 587 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: like this, to stretch the floor and be a threat, 588 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: I think the possible. I think a deep run in 589 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: March is imminent for the Bruins. Absolutely, when you have 590 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: that type of threat coming off the bench and he 591 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: plays defense, and you know, he's really sure with the ball. 592 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: He's too sure with the ball. Some time to wear, 593 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you know, loosen up a little bit, 594 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, trying to make a play. But but he's 595 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: not trying to turn the ball over, you know what. 596 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, yeah, but so so. 597 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: But I mean and and you know, he's not his 598 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: conventional his form is not convinced. You know, he's kind 599 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: of slingshots that thing right, you know, but that's his 600 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: rhythm and that's his I mean, you don't get that right, 601 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: knock that down right, it's going down so so so 602 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: it's like he shoots his shot the same way game speed. Yeah, 603 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: that's why it goes. Absolutely, that's the person on the 604 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: team that he should talk to. Absolutely. Absolutely. Finally, Cody 605 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: Riley Tiger campbell Um two pillars of the program. Solid 606 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: guys that play their roles to the t and they 607 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: sort of lead without really saying too much. Is that 608 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: an accurate assessment of Tiger and Cody? I think so. 609 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: I mean they lead by their play. Tiger has been 610 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more vocal this year with a certain things, 611 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: but that is accurate. Both of them lead. They don't 612 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: say too much. They just go out there and they play. 613 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: I still think Cody is not all the way back 614 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: yet from that injury at the beginning. And let's you know, 615 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: if you rewind the season injuries, COVID, all kinds of 616 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: stuff is just right when we start getting there, boom, 617 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: something happened. Right when we start getting there, boom, something happens. 618 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes that's the things that you need 619 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: to get you over the hull. Now, I I still 620 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: see Cody kind of lumbering up the court. When he 621 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: was at his best last year, he was a little 622 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: his feet were a little bit lighter than than than 623 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: they are now. I see lumbering. He was a little 624 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: bit like he was able to step out on picking rolls, 625 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: keep guys in front of him. He was able to 626 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: face people up, knocked down the jumper if they went 627 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: for it, then he'd go to the hole and spin 628 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: on him and lay the ball up. He hasn't gotten 629 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: that quickness and his feet on as light as they 630 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: were post season last year yet. So maybe he's not 631 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 1: in the shape that he should be in yet. Maybe 632 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: he's getting there. Maybe he'll get there at the right time. 633 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: But if he does, to add along with miles of 634 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: uh activity and what he does Tiger's leadership, knocking down 635 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: threes this year at a clip, I think that's that's 636 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: what was missing from Tiger. Yeah, just jump shooting. Now 637 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: he No, he can do what he can do, yeah, 638 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: because you have to honor that. Yeah. And he's and 639 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: he's not as much as a defensive liability as he was. 640 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 1: He's actually gotten tons better to keeping guys in front. 641 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: He's making it right, he's using his head, he's using 642 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: anticipation a lot better this season. I think though, in 643 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 1: terms of when we talk about Cody, and and and 644 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: and himI, and as far as injuries this late in 645 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: the season, I feel like they just have to find 646 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: a groove to where they can contribute, however, the best 647 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: of their ability. I remember my junior year, Tracy. I 648 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: played with bolt spurs and my right foot the whole season. 649 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: I had a down year. I leven again. I was 650 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: eleven points a game, just a bad from the field, 651 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: just a bad year. But I contributing come terment time 652 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: because I knew where to get in where I could 653 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: fit in. You know, ten points, eight points here, six boards, play, 654 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: some tough defense, couple of key plays, get us still here. 655 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: I think the Saints could be said for Cody in 656 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: him me. If they're not gonna be a right now 657 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: and we still gotta play basketball, just find a way 658 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: to help the team. Call it a day and keep 659 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: it pushing. Don't go outside of your game, you know, 660 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: don't try to be something that guy that you were, 661 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: because you really can't do that same stuff. Take what 662 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: the defense keids. You make it easy defense rebound, take 663 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: your open shots. And if you put the ball on 664 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: the deck, put the ball on the deck anticipating the 665 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: double team is coming and looking for those guys. Yes, 666 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: be ready to pick it up and pass quickly. It's 667 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: it's an art. It's an art for that. I had it. 668 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: I had it down since I did that first dribble. 669 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking for somebody to pass two. I ain't trying 670 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: to yo yo. And you're not trying to split the 671 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: defenders because those defenders are coming over quick. So I mean, 672 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: and if you don't have that the push off like 673 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: you normally do, you're not splitting it like is used 674 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: to splitting it. Now they're getting you're in closing the gaps. 675 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: So now he's got to look for people earlier code 676 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: he's used to post him up and spending fast. That 677 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 1: double team is there and and he's struggling with trying 678 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: to get the ball up on the backboard or climing 679 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: the defenders. He might need to face up in jab, 680 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: you know, back to the basket, face up, in jab, 681 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: keep him off, face up. Now you can shoot. Now 682 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,800 Speaker 1: you can see everything. You know do to Tim duncan 683 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, face up him back down 684 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: when he had to, but he mostly faced up so 685 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: he can see the double teams coming. And you're saving 686 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,959 Speaker 1: you're saving energy that way as well, without that show 687 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, you're saving your shoulder, 688 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: you're saving you know everything, bro. Yeah, you don't have 689 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: to lumber up the court as much if you're not 690 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: carrying people on your in the pain all the time, 691 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: getting tired. And yeah, let me ask you this, Chris, 692 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: because I feel a certain way go ahead. How do 693 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: you feel when you're big man is always on the ground. Um, 694 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a frustrating site to see, but it 695 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: just really depends on what type of production, Like did 696 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: he just pin it and fall down? Is he getting 697 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: a tip or deflection? Is he falling down somebody and 698 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: fall down? If he's not doing none of that, he 699 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: falling down, get your ass something right, right right? Or 700 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: or if he's taking a charge you can take that. 701 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: I'll take to be rustling around with somebody or tossling 702 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: around with somebody and you're always on the ground. I 703 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: mean that bothers me because it makes your team looks soft. 704 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: If you're big man is always on the ground, it does, 705 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 1: it does make him look soft. And but you know, 706 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: if he's gonna be on the ground, we gotta figure 707 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: out a way to maximize that. If you know he's 708 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: gonna be one of them type of dude, Tracy just 709 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: go end up on the ground, we gotta we gotta 710 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: figure out to be able to get something out of him. 711 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: He's gotta give us eight to ten points if he's 712 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: gonna be on the ground, like, you gotta what is 713 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: he like? He can't just be be on the ground? Guy, 714 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: that's not his value to our life, bro. But this 715 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: is my question. Is he on the ground for being 716 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: thrown on the ground. I don't think so, not, not, 717 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: not at two six. I think he's on the ground 718 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: because of maybe flopping trying to get a call. And 719 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: they're never they're never gonna allow somebody six a six 720 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: nine two six five to get a flop call on 721 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: the ground. That's not gonna happen. So you gotta you 722 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: gotta stay in your ground, and you gotta man up 723 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: and keep your ballot. Stop him right right? I mean, 724 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing against too many guys that 725 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 1: are severer than him. Yeah, yeah, because I think he's strong. 726 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: There's something to be saying. Also for you trying to 727 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: use your head, trying to play the cat and mouse 728 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: game as you as you know, and sometimes you can't 729 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: get up vertically and you need to you know, X 730 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: out that guy or neutralize somebody. You know, that's the 731 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: flop game. You know, let's get a foul, let's do this. 732 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: But when you start doing it too much and when 733 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: you end up on the ground of the time, you 734 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 1: may want to reconsider that that strategy. Right, and and 735 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: and as I said again, it's not the flop game 736 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: as far as taking a charge. It's like you're getting 737 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: tangled up with the guy and then you're on the ground. 738 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: You know. That's yeah, that's that's the part because now 739 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, you're on the ground, why isn't he 740 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: on the ground. If y'all both need to be on 741 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: the ground, like like the Maleman and Rodman at that time, 742 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: there you go, that's what needs to happen. You're pulling me, 743 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 1: I'm pulling you trying to get up. It's better be 744 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: something because it ain't just me. Bro Ye. I'll tell 745 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: you what that Colorado game was a crazy one to 746 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: watch because you had him and Batty, both strong bodies, 747 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: but they both flopped like hell. So you start one 748 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: flopping the other one flopping on this and then guys 749 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: are in danger. Every time those big two dudes were 750 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: flopping because knees and shins. It's like it was a 751 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: mess down there. Bro spoken like a true hooper, worried 752 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: about the knees because you flopping. I mean, that's some 753 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: real basketball stuff, like you don't hurt me, and that's 754 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: what we really I mean, I really would be piste 755 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: off at a cat and probably like you know, like 756 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: an Alma Givens or and I can wank. Was I 757 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: fall I'm like, dog, don't you can't be falling dog six, 758 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: y'all big old six and eleven dude, because you're gonna 759 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: fall in at my leg and I'm gonna be how 760 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: strong I was. He got to be on the g 761 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: he following with the arms flail into so you know 762 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: it was a whole My former teammate, I did. Did 763 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: you play with Ike too? Ike was on our visit. 764 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: I didn't play with I was on our visit. We 765 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: hosted It's Going and I came in shut that's my man. 766 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: Big Ike's in Thailand doing his thing. Tracy, I think 767 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: big Olds in San Francisco. My man are up in 768 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. But Tray, do you think who do 769 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: you think is the biggest sort of I guess the 770 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: threat for the Pac twelve getting that auto bid in 771 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: the tournament to the Bruins. Which team is the biggest 772 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,399 Speaker 1: threat the biggest threat in the Pac twelve tournament getting 773 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 1: the auto um to the Bruins. You know what I'm saying. 774 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: I think it's USC Man. The reason why I say 775 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: it because they're big. They're the biggest team in the nation, 776 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: just about on the other side of Arizona UM. We've 777 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: beaten the Arizona before, but we lost the sc last 778 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: five terms. So I think they're the biggest threat because 779 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: they have their war paint on. They know it's a 780 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: robbery game. They know that their second class citizens. When 781 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 1: it comes to basketball. To u c l A, it's 782 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: kind of like you c l A football to them, 783 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 1: Why is you sel a football beating them? Because they 784 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: have this for ball tradition and we're trying to fight 785 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: for respect. It's a flip flop in basketball, So they're 786 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: constantly grinding, fighting for respect even though they're in the 787 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: top twenty all year. Like I thought, it was unnecessary 788 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: to storm the court. We're not number one, first of all, 789 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: second of all, act act like you you've won before. 790 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: You guys been winning for the last few years now. 791 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: There's no need to storm the court. So you know 792 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that we weren't doing it to them 793 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: because we expect the win. Have we ever stormed the 794 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: court in probably civilion against anybody? Tracy? Did you get 795 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: everything we did at one time? Because it was fashionable 796 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 1: to storm the court at one point where kids were 797 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: doing it all the time. Who don't I don't remember 798 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: who were store in the court. Again, it was a 799 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: big win. But it might have I don't know. It 800 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: might it might have been it was a it was 801 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: a top rank Cremin, might even been Arizona or somebody 802 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: like that. So we're storm the court. But then you know, 803 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: of course we're saying it on the radio. Um do 804 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: you have people on TV? Was like, wow, they're storming 805 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: the court, and and then and then all of us 806 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: who are on social media is like, why are we 807 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 1: storming the court? It's like it has made no sense 808 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: for us to storm the court because we're doing what 809 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: we're supposed to do. We're supposed to win at home, 810 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: and we're supposed to handle our business because where U 811 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 1: c l A. We're not supposed to be storming courts. 812 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: The only time you storm the court is a national championship. 813 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Do you know how it 814 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: is that U c l A. You come in there 815 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: with the pressure when you put those those letters on 816 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: your chest, championship or bus. So you win one game 817 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: during the year and you're gonna storm the court. 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They but 854 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: we got a funny story like with Oregon storm to course. 855 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: So you know how Mac Jones in that situation in Arizona, 856 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: I was got me to thinking like matt um it 857 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,399 Speaker 1: t n um it got it got me to thinking 858 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,399 Speaker 1: about different moments and interaction with fans that you see 859 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: l a basketball for after the elves, when you take 860 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,280 Speaker 1: a tough deal in a Tucson and in a Pullman 861 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: or I never lost the Pullman, but we we I 862 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: forget me for saying that. But when you take a 863 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: tough else somewhere right, they stormed the court, Matt Court, 864 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: that's where they storm your ass. So they stormed us 865 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: in Matt Court. Literally, I'm like trying to shake the 866 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: spot and get out of there. I turned and look 867 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: and I see tires at me, himming dudes up dot 868 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: dot dot dot making his way by by bye, by 869 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: making his I was like, we put it like this, 870 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: Tires got out of the crowd very easily and quickly, 871 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 1: and I was surprised. I was like that, it was 872 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: kind of like you and him when y'all raised that time, 873 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: when he kind of gave you that look like Tracy, 874 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: how do you get over here? That's how I looked 875 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: at tires Bro. I looked at how you making through 876 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 1: the crowd? Bro, Like what? But I saw how you 877 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: made it through the crowd. I always respected that man 878 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: ever since my brother. But but that LBC came out, Hey, 879 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: the LB ceazy and you only saw it a couple 880 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,919 Speaker 1: of times. With times, you know, you only see it, 881 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 1: you may see it twice your whole life. You only 882 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: may see it twice. But then let the smooth taste 883 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,760 Speaker 1: fool you not at all. But but but my point 884 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: is they had a reason. I felt like Oregon had 885 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: a reason. We were top ranked team in the country. 886 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: We were number one. When you're number one, like you know, 887 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: you you know when people beat us when we're number one, 888 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: I get it. I totally get it. But we're thirteen fourteen. 889 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: It's kind of like right, But that's why I said 890 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: we were number one, So it didn't make sense. Points, 891 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 1: you know, um Arizona stage. They don't. They ain't been. 892 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: They ain't been good since hardened, So you know them storming, 893 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: and they're who they are anyway, and they're the rudest fans, 894 00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: and you know they they are they are, and and 895 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: and the broadcast when you called it out, Um, it 896 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 1: was people trying to act like that. That didn't happen 897 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,879 Speaker 1: like that. That Like the guy didn't get something thrown 898 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: at him as he's taking a shot. That's what I'm saying. 899 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: And that's what I was, but two, but that's how 900 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's like you jumping. You guys 901 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: are trying to act like Tracy some type of you 902 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: said a homer for saying what he saw. And I 903 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 1: was just like, I'm reading this stuff like what he 904 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: can't report what he saw. Now, let me clarify, it's 905 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 1: not gonna affect the end. We were already down three, 906 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: Arizona State already did enough to win it. We were 907 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: wishing on the star with a bad miss Peyton Watson 908 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: turn around three like that, which was not gonna go. 909 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: So didn't affect the game. No, But in any arena 910 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: in America, if you throw anything on the floor, what 911 00:50:54,160 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: happened the same attack on the house to now. Now, 912 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 1: now let's play the whole scenario out. If there's a 913 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: technical that's two shots and the ball and the ball 914 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: with the same time on the clock down one. Do 915 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 1: you think Bobby Herley is not gonna lose this ship 916 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: and maybe get one. Yeah, something to think about. You 917 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: might lose this ship and get attecked because something that 918 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: he didn't see happen. So there's a whole lot of 919 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,839 Speaker 1: scenarios you can play out there. But didn't have an 920 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:37,800 Speaker 1: effect on Cayton Boston's shot going in. No, No it didn't. 921 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't going to that was we're wishing on the 922 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: start at that shot that was then to send it 923 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: into another overtime. So no, it didn't affect the game. No, 924 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: it didn't affect the out. But I just needed I 925 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,879 Speaker 1: just needed to clarify that what if that. Now I've 926 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,799 Speaker 1: been overseason, you've been overseeing you know how it is overseas. 927 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,400 Speaker 1: I've had water bottles, keys, coins, all kinds of stuff 928 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: thrown at me, batteries there there's no regulations over there 929 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: where they say don't throw stuff onto the floor, but 930 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: here we don't do that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, 931 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: we don't do that here. Now that you know it 932 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: was a balled up a T shirt that hit him, 933 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 1: knows about this bit? Now, did that hurt him? No? Shot? No? 934 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: Is it supposed to happen? No, That's all I was saying, Tracy. 935 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, what world are we living in 936 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,720 Speaker 1: where people are trying to defend fan behavior throwing stuff 937 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,240 Speaker 1: during game action at a college just just just aside 938 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,720 Speaker 1: from everything we've talked about, this thing about someone actually 939 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 1: trying to rationalize that, that part of it, and then 940 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: let's let's really keep it real. The last time, not 941 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: the last time, but one of the last times we 942 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 1: saw a fan throw something that didn't hurt the player. 943 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: The players ran up in the stands and they was 944 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: bank banking Cats in Detroit, in Detroit, Michigan, Albert Hills, Michigan, 945 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 1: Malice in the Palace. But the cup didn't hurt. The 946 00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 1: cup didn't hurt. Now what if Payton got hit health 947 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 1: it and went long beach on him? Right now, you're 948 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: calling him a bad kid because oh, he's supposed to 949 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 1: play this like God, not like like I know matter, 950 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: I know, Roy, Yeah, just like he got a bad 951 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 1: reputation off of that one incident. He's a great dude. 952 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: It's like, come on, man, all it takes is one 953 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 1: situation where it gets out of control and then they'll 954 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: try to blame the dude being crazy. Oh he's a 955 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: lunatic for going up in the stand. Shoot, I mean, 956 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,320 Speaker 1: there's there was U. Why do you think Russell's always 957 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: getting into it with somebody? You talk? Because you tell 958 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: us one of the worst places to play when you're 959 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: an opposing team, because it's some of the things that 960 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: they call you. You know what I'm saying, Russell's always 961 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 1: getting into it with somebody in Utah, Utah and Arizona 962 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: are they are the worst UH fans to go into 963 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: their arena and play against because of some of the 964 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: things that are said, possibly something being thrown at you. Now, 965 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: I don't mind the you know, behind the curtain thing. 966 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 1: That's cool, that's funny. You know, it's distracting unless you're 967 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: keeping your focus. That's that's that's that's a cool thing 968 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: for the students, and that's you know. And then and 969 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: then if you know people hell, I've been saying, people 970 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: called me all kind of names. Said I sapt that 971 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: didn't bother me. You know what I'm saying, It didn't 972 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: bother me. There chance they But you have a saying 973 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: f you Tiger or f you Johnny. That's going too far, man, 974 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: Don't you know what I mean? It's like, yeah, say 975 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,240 Speaker 1: they sucked. That's cool. They were used to being said 976 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 1: that we sucked. But then start doing that stuff, and 977 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: you've got people's parents understands fighting people after the game 978 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 1: because they can't get out of the arena because they're 979 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: out of control. There were there were some of our 980 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 1: parents that were fighting people. I didn't know that, Yeah, 981 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: because they got into it with some of these fans 982 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Yeah. Well yeah, and it looks it's it's unruly. 983 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: It gets heated out there. There's no question the library 984 00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 1: to people don't understand when you you have and what 985 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,760 Speaker 1: and what people What people don't also want to understand 986 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: is how civilized our fans are in Westwood. So it's 987 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: their hands half the time, looks like but but but 988 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: civil civilized? But Tracy, I mean, I don't. I don't. 989 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't hear of of I can imagine. I cannot 990 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:21,359 Speaker 1: imagine any opposing team person to ever experience anything like 991 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: what we have to experience when we go to Poem 992 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: and Eugene corvallis Tucson. Like the stuff that's said, it's 993 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: it's like it's lightweight, it's it's it's real serious, right 994 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,359 Speaker 1: they And so I'm not I'm not trying to I'm 995 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 1: not trying to say mac Mac had right to do 996 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: what he did. His response was horrible. He should probably 997 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: should have really reconsidered doing that. If you're gotta do something, 998 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: you know, you might as well. If you're gonna get 999 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: caught up, you might, well, you know, get caught up. 1000 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: But now, but anyway, he should have just kept pushing. 1001 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: But keep your head down and keep walking through that. 1002 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 1: Being said, You're gonna be pissed off, but keep your 1003 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 1: head down and keep walking through that. Being saying. Fan 1004 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 1: behavior does need to be um defy, it needs to 1005 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 1: be regulations on. You can't just say whatever you want 1006 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,479 Speaker 1: to these especially these college kids. There's a little different 1007 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: than projects, right right, Yeah, college kids. Like it's like 1008 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,359 Speaker 1: even as a broadcaster, there's certain there's certain things I'll 1009 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 1: say about college kids because they're kids. They're not pro 1010 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: they're not being paid to play this game. So I'm 1011 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm less harsh on college players, you know, because their 1012 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 1: kids and they're trying to figure it out. Now a 1013 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 1: pro getting paid a lot of money, you can you 1014 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 1: can be a little bit more direct and it maybe 1015 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: a criticism. But one thing about me though, is I 1016 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: always think back to when I played and what I 1017 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: like what I'm saying about another player. So I'm I'm 1018 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 1: always thinking about what I'm gonna say before I say it, 1019 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 1: because I don't want to offend other player number one, 1020 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: even if they're pro um, because I was there at 1021 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: one point. So I always think about what I said 1022 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 1: before I said. You said something interesting just about because 1023 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 1: I brought this up to Sean Farnham when I had 1024 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: him on the show. We were talking, I was asking Sean. 1025 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: I was like, Sean, are you gotta cover guys differently 1026 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 1: with now that they're able to get paid off the 1027 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 1: n i L. Or is this going to take a 1028 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 1: couple of years before we start to transition from amateur 1029 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: college kids to now n I L money getting you know, 1030 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: pseudo pros. How do you what are your thoughts on 1031 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: Tracy just how the n I L has either negatively 1032 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: or positively affected the college athletics well, well, first of all, 1033 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,440 Speaker 1: I just thought we should have been getting something a 1034 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 1: long time ago. So so shout out and wait, wait, 1035 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: shout all they had Obanna for putting a certain reputation 1036 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: on the line so they can get his name, his 1037 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 1: name and it's black anything. You know how they didn't. 1038 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: You know how they're doing him too with the name. 1039 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. So shout out to shout 1040 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 1: out to add for for putting his reputation on the line. 1041 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: Two for these kids to benefit from it. Um, I'm 1042 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 1: all for it. Um. There's been many nights where yes, 1043 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: full scholarship didn't pay for books. I'm very thankful for 1044 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 1: all of that, but there were there were nights I 1045 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 1: couldn't take my girlfriend to the movies or dinner, bro 1046 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 1: because I wrote, so it is where it is. The 1047 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: Brewing Gold card can only get you so much. Um. 1048 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah right, And I'm tired of youtotistics and pride, you 1049 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um, the the we didn't get 1050 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: training table, I mean, things are a lot different now 1051 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: for the kids with the practice facilities, the food, the food, 1052 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, the nutrition, the food that's there for them 1053 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: to take care of their bodies and stuff. And I'm 1054 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: happy you c l A did that. Man, you know 1055 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: they have you know, uh moving forward. It's also good 1056 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 1: for recruiting to to be able to show that you're 1057 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 1: up on what's going on practice facility wise, nutrition wise 1058 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: and all of that. So, uh, shout shout out to 1059 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 1: to them for doing that. But I mean, we had 1060 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: training table and I'm pretty sure you got this is 1061 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 1: the same thing for you guys. We had training table 1062 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: until football season was over. Then it was like you 1063 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 1: guys spent you know, and I'm like, wait a minute, football, 1064 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: you know, but but but you know, it's it's more 1065 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,919 Speaker 1: of them, so they're trying to commentate. It was also 1066 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: during the era Let's keep it real and Athletic Department 1067 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 1: when they were football was they were rocking with football 1068 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: pretty heavily. Let's keeping our coach wasn't necessarily the most beloved, 1069 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 1: but that's for another podcast. I think I think that 1070 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 1: they're always rocking with football because football puts more butts 1071 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 1: and seats and they're trying to fill that rolls bow 1072 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: up and they're trying to they keep trying to build 1073 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:58,840 Speaker 1: that program to be where basketball is or women's softball 1074 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: is and women's jump not us. Did you know where 1075 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,320 Speaker 1: they win in national championships and stuff. But football players 1076 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: are gonna look at football schools. We're trying to be one, 1077 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: but that's not our tradition. So it's gonna always be 1078 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 1: a challenge to try to bring football to the forefront 1079 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: because that's not our tradition. I have we had great 1080 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 1: players come out of there. Absolutely, We've had some greatness 1081 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 1: come out to Joan Dude. You know what I mean, 1082 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: my my my uncle, Chrisman. I mean, um, not Chris, Chris, Dad, 1083 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: James mccolleg school, Um, God rest his soul. Um. You know, 1084 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 1: there there were some great NFL guys, Eric Turner got 1085 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: drested soul, you know, Matt Marcus Patton, all those guys 1086 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 1: and Charles are. But for guys that I went to 1087 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 1: school with, you know, uh, Troy Aikman right before me. 1088 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of great football players that come through 1089 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: our school, but it's not a football school. So so 1090 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: guys are thinking second guests. Maybe we're second or third 1091 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 1: on people on the top guy's list because they're looking 1092 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: at traditionally the football policy. Yeah, so that's gonna always 1093 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 1: be a challenge for us. Yeah, it is, and I 1094 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: think that though the new athletic director, coupled with you know, 1095 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 1: this eight and fourth season and Chip Kelly's for year extension, 1096 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: I think that there's still gonna be some life there. 1097 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: We got everybody coming back, d J t uh Dt, 1098 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson, Robinson, d excuse me, d t R, all 1099 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 1: these dayn acronyms, and then uh Charbonnette, Zack Sharbinnett, Arnette, 1100 01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: night Erde night Light Ski, Curly Harkatt. You know, I 1101 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 1: think he's a Johnson so I rock with So I'm 1102 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 1: rocked with. He kind of heavy, but now I'm looking 1103 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 1: forward to the program getting back over. Yeah, yeah, those 1104 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: guys are. They're all coming back, so that's a good thing. Man. 1105 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,920 Speaker 1: What's your football? The best? Man? And I hope they 1106 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 1: do well next year, you know, man, yeah, man, But man, hey, 1107 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 1: it's it's been a real conversation. Brother. Um. It's amazing 1108 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 1: to hear you talk about just your journey man and 1109 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: getting to the us A Hall of Fame. I've known 1110 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 1: you for years, and every time I talked to you 1111 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: always find out something kind of new and interesting about 1112 01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: you that I didn't know from the time before. My brother, 1113 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 1: But hey, man, you're doing a great job this year 1114 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 1: with the Bruins. We're gonna be watching y'all closely, as 1115 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 1: you already know on the check in and uh, man, 1116 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 1: enjoy this Hall of Fame moment. Enjoy the glory from it, brother, 1117 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 1: because they can never take it away. Thank you, Bro, 1118 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you there's no feeling like it. I still 1119 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 1: bid goose bumps. I still you know, I'm glad I 1120 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: didn't have water works on the on the podium. I 1121 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,439 Speaker 1: was really close. If I kept looking at my mom, 1122 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 1: I would have had it. Bro. I turned the focus. 1123 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,919 Speaker 1: Mom was over. They're just going. And then when I'm done, 1124 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,800 Speaker 1: this is a crazy When I'm done, I walked to 1125 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:56,440 Speaker 1: my seat and my seven year old is I'm like, 1126 01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:03,959 Speaker 1: old is getting missed in? Here is getting right? Man? 1127 01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: So you know, as I say again, man, it was. 1128 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 1: It was cool for them. Um. It's definitely an honor 1129 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:16,200 Speaker 1: for me, um to to understand fully what it is 1130 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: to be a u c l A Hall of Famer 1131 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 1: and and it's really really humbling. Absolutely, ladies and gentlemen, 1132 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 1: U c l A Hall of Famer. Tracy Mary out, 1133 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 1: are you agile thinking of becoming agile in your career, 1134 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 1: business and running project engagements. 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