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Speaker 1: Your tuned about drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back by Dale he Is,

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, and Matt. We're gonna see at least two

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Speaker 1: more quarterbacks added to the starting nas this year. Sam

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Speaker 1: how is going to start for the Washington Commanders who

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Speaker 1: are now eliminated, which Ron Rivera didn't know that they

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Speaker 1: were eliminated. I get you. You have blinders on as

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Speaker 1: a coach. You're just trying to win the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: your your main You're thinking going into that game against

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns last week, We're just gonna win this game.

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Speaker 1: You're not thinking about what happens if you lose. So

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Speaker 1: the people killing him about that, I get it. You

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Speaker 1: should know, but it's not the end of the world.

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Speaker 1: It kind of had a McNabb didn't know a game

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Speaker 1: can ended the tie type of field to it. There's

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Speaker 1: that that's kind of a bad field. But your job

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Speaker 1: is a score touchdowns. Your job is to win, and

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Speaker 1: you know that's what he was focused on. It all

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Speaker 1: makes sense now. Yeah, one game Chicago is is sitting

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Speaker 1: down justin fields. You had a chance to set the

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Speaker 1: rushing rushing record for quarterbacks attainable to start Nathan Peterman

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Speaker 1: and the tank. That's essentially yeah, which is good for

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Speaker 1: the Steelers folks, you know, yeah if they so, if

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Speaker 1: they lose on Sunday and Houston wins against Sam Ellen's,

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Speaker 1: you're in Chicago or Indianapolis, I should say, and the

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Speaker 1: favored and their favor not by a little either more

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Speaker 1: than three is it's more than that's like four and

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Speaker 1: a half. If they do that the Bears, then you

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Speaker 1: have the number one overall pick, and then therefore the

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Speaker 1: number one pick in the second round, which belongs to

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh stealer, which would be the thirty second overall pick,

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Speaker 1: which is tremendous, so worse the Steelers picking thirty three.

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Speaker 1: The difference two and thirty three is not much, but

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Speaker 1: you've got the that's phenomenal. That pick. Going into that

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Speaker 1: second day, they're going to field a lot of calls. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be one of our favorite draft day moments.

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Speaker 1: Think they'll field a lot of calls if it's too

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Speaker 1: But let's say there's a quarterback sitting there that didn't

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Speaker 1: go in the first round, and there probably will be

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Speaker 1: that somebody says, well, we got we gotta go up

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Speaker 1: and get this kid. They could move back. Let's say

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Speaker 1: they go back six six spots and get a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of picks, your second and a third. This year

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Speaker 1: you might get a first real package. Yeah you might.

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Speaker 1: Somebody might say, you know what, we'll give you a

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Speaker 1: We'll give you a next year's one in this year's

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Speaker 1: two to move up to. We need a quarterback. We

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Speaker 1: got shut out in free agency. We gotta get a

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Speaker 1: quarterback here. I know some people are upset about boys

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Speaker 1: Steers aren't picking in the top ten anymore. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: get that it's better. This is a better outcome, without question.

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Speaker 1: But that extra second round pick is gonna make your

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Speaker 1: and I mocks drafts a blast. And not to mention

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Speaker 1: our draft coverage when we're like live on the air

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Speaker 1: and that night leading up to the I mean, every

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Speaker 1: pick is going to be super crucial. Like that's that's

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Speaker 1: a rare position for us and the Steelers to be it.

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Speaker 1: I told you yesterday it was I was waiting for

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Speaker 1: you to come in and I was just messing around

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Speaker 1: on the Pro Football Focus mock drafter. Yeah, because you

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Speaker 1: can make trades. Is like, so every time my pick

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Speaker 1: came up, I traded back where I traded for picks

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Speaker 1: next year, So you got a bunch of future picks, right.

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Speaker 1: So I ended up drafting, like there were two times

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Speaker 1: when I didn't, nobody made me an offer for the picks.

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Speaker 1: I drafted two guys and ended up with seven team

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Speaker 1: picks next year, like three first rounders and four second rounders.

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Speaker 1: And you know, yeah, people don't think about that though.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna entertain offers all night long

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Speaker 1: there will be teams that like two players or whatever. No,

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Speaker 1: to negotiate. It's on a fifteen minute' clock. You're fielding

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Speaker 1: offers from ten teams instead of one or two, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, and everybody now talks about

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Speaker 1: Matt that fifth year option. I'm of the belief that

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Speaker 1: Let's say, let's just say he's a starter for you.

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Speaker 1: After year three or after year two, he's a starter,

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Speaker 1: just an average starter doesn't go to Pro Bowls or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. You've got to it's basically the transition

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Speaker 1: tag that you've got to pay him, which is substantial, substantial.

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Speaker 1: If he goes to a Pro Bowl, then it becomes

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Speaker 1: the franchise tag number. I know everyone's killing the Raiders

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Speaker 1: this year. How could you not a franchise or you know,

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Speaker 1: gave him the fifth year to Josh Jacobs. He's leading

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Speaker 1: Before that, I bet he's gone to a Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I thought about who this year,

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Speaker 1: which means right, like so that was not a super

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Speaker 1: cheap deal for them. The fifth year option is not

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Speaker 1: as great as people think. No, not not what it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: That's just an no brainer option guys because they're expensive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know, um, now you like it, quarterback, You

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Speaker 1: like if those guys go to Pro but that means

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Speaker 1: they were they've been good earlier. Yeah, it was a

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Speaker 1: good pick. But let's be honest, I was going to

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl. Isn't what it used to be either

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Speaker 1: a high bar either. I do think if you want

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Speaker 1: those type of things, they're clear starter in place. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so to two more quarterbacks start this week, that brings

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Speaker 1: the number to what I say, sixties six I think

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Speaker 1: sixties six seven. Yeah, yeah, you were actually off last

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Speaker 1: week with that numbers because it was sixty four going

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Speaker 1: tied after this week with the seven strike here right

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Speaker 1: for the most quarterbacks starting games in the league. That

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Speaker 1: multiple quarterbacks that year, right, Like so the strike year.

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Speaker 1: and then they want to strike right. Yeah, then Steve

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Speaker 1: the reason it was only sixty two at that point

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Speaker 1: reason why points are down. Oh absolutely. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: no consistency at quarterback. Again, there's not a single team

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Speaker 1: going into week the eighteen of the NFL season that

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Speaker 1: a lot of games scoring kind of last week they

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Speaker 1: Steelers situation, people are killing the steel Well, they're still

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Speaker 1: in the average seventeen and a half points per game.

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Speaker 1: You've started the rookie quarterback most of the year. Yah,

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Speaker 1: and Ms Robiskuy is not a superstar either. But if

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Speaker 1: Kenny Picket is four in quarterback ep A. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: He's around a lot of brand name guys, including Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: And we said this many times going into the year

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Speaker 1: he's ascending. Though I bet he ends up well, I

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Speaker 1: it's supposed to be better than just a quarterback rating.

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Speaker 1: any Yeah, Josh Allen's at seventy point five. He's too.

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Speaker 1: No one's gonna fight you there. Jalen Hurts is three

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Speaker 1: Then you've got Geno Smith at sixty two point six.

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Speaker 1: fifty five point six. Yeah. Trevor Lawrence is then at

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Speaker 1: he's sixteen. Justin Fields is at seventeen at fifty three

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady at fifty one point nine is eighteen. Kyler

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Speaker 1: Then you get Kenny Pickett at twenty two at forty

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Speaker 1: Wow Cousins moments he's at forty eight point nine. I

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Speaker 1: the guys after picket, So Tanny Hills forty nine point seven,

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Speaker 1: down to Baker Mayfield at seven. So that's a big difference.

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