WEBVTT - Camping Out: Predictions, Surprises and More!

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<v Speaker 1>Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler and now your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 3>Today is Thursday, April thirteenth, twenty twenty three. We are

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks out, fourteen days exactly from the NFL Combine

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<v Speaker 3>in Kansas City. As the draft is woolen along.

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<v Speaker 4>My I literally twitched a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Why why was that the sound? We should be excited.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pumped. We should be pumped for this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Miller time. Beemer. I don't believe you, Honestly, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't believe that you're not ready, because every time we

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<v Speaker 3>talk about a specific player, we have video coverage of

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<v Speaker 3>him up on the board.

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<v Speaker 2>Every every single thing trying back here, we're trying well,

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<v Speaker 2>you do a great job. And because of that, we're

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<v Speaker 2>actually gonna reward Beamer.

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<v Speaker 3>In the last segment, We're gonna let him lead to

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<v Speaker 3>tell me more with his with some of the prospects

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<v Speaker 3>that he's had. We're gonna have a Beamer's choice, tell

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<v Speaker 3>me more. Oh no, in the back. So that'll be

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<v Speaker 3>our third segment today, Leap.

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<v Speaker 5>That's got me terrified, Yeah, because I want to do

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<v Speaker 5>a stump the Beam. You know, can we stump him

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<v Speaker 5>if he doesn't have during during our weekend draft coverage?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he not have tape on these guys?

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<v Speaker 5>He's probably gonna ask us players that he's putting in

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<v Speaker 5>like number three hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>We're like, I haven't seen this guy. Thanks a lot, Beam.

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<v Speaker 2>Then that's when we were sort of the beast. I

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<v Speaker 2>love you. There you go. I like it. How's everybody

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<v Speaker 2>doing doing well? Who'd you watch last night? Brian? Did

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<v Speaker 2>you watch anybody?

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<v Speaker 6>Let's see who I did watch last night, because there

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<v Speaker 6>were several guys that I watched last night and I

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<v Speaker 6>know it did Eric Smith. The other day, I finally

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<v Speaker 6>got around to my the Missouri uh, the Missouri defensive

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<v Speaker 6>end McGuire. We talked about him at all, Isaiah McGuire.

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<v Speaker 6>Isaiah McGuire, so yeah, let me let me get.

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<v Speaker 2>He watched him last night as well, sir. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a tweeener, isn't he? He is?

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<v Speaker 7>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 6>To me, I think he could play defensive end. I

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<v Speaker 6>think that he's one of those guys that when you

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<v Speaker 6>when you watch him play, he's six y four, he's

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<v Speaker 6>to sixty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that's how I would.

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<v Speaker 6>Say he's He definitely has that NFL ready frame and

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<v Speaker 6>he's thick, he's got length. Uh, he could his initial

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<v Speaker 6>I know Aish is really big on this. When you

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<v Speaker 6>start talking about defensive lineman, that hand, the shock that

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<v Speaker 6>you have the ability to control.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>He is all about getting up the field. That is

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<v Speaker 6>what he absolutely really wants to do. He's not really

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<v Speaker 6>a guy that has I don't think a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>really nifty type pass rush moves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's more of a bull rush kind of a guy.

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<v Speaker 6>He's going to take the tackle, he's going to try

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<v Speaker 6>and walk him and uh, you know, you gotta be

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<v Speaker 6>He's got to be a little careful in the run

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<v Speaker 6>game because you will you'll see him get driven out

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<v Speaker 6>of gaps a little bit. With the way he plays

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<v Speaker 6>for six four two sixty eight, you would think he'd

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<v Speaker 6>be a little bit more stouter at the point of attack.

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<v Speaker 6>But the majority of host rushes, like I say, are

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<v Speaker 6>bull rushes. And he gets to it, you know, that way,

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<v Speaker 6>but he does. He wants to get up the field.

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<v Speaker 6>He wants to chase the ball. He could finish when

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<v Speaker 6>he gets in position, and the linked I think is super,

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<v Speaker 6>super impressive, and that's why I think that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 6>are looking at This was a late add to me

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<v Speaker 6>because I didn't have this guy initially. And I started

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<v Speaker 6>talking to some scout guys around the league and they're like,

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<v Speaker 6>what do you think of the maguire kid from Missouri?

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<v Speaker 2>And it was like.

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<v Speaker 6>Aisha when she takes her little notes and writes guys down.

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<v Speaker 6>I did the same thing on this guy, and this

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<v Speaker 6>is what this is what I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>I love everything you said at the length to me.

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<v Speaker 5>When he uses his arms and he's able to extend

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<v Speaker 5>in that bull rush, I mean, that's really what he

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<v Speaker 5>loves to do. He plays with a lot of power.

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<v Speaker 5>But Brian's absolutely right in terms of the gap integrity.

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<v Speaker 5>He can get caught a little bit upfield because to

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<v Speaker 5>his point, he's always trying to rush up and I

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<v Speaker 5>think sometimes his rush can kind of get a little

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<v Speaker 5>wide of the quarterback at times.

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<v Speaker 2>But there is a lot to like high upside player.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's got the prototypical size and athleticism for

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<v Speaker 5>the position. I'm a fan of HEAs I mean in

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<v Speaker 5>the fourth round range. If you don't end up taking

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<v Speaker 5>an end and you want one there and you've kind

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<v Speaker 5>of filled some of your other spots, maybe he's one

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<v Speaker 5>of the higher rated players on your board.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a lot of upside with him.

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<v Speaker 6>See that's the guy too again, excuse me, sure real quick,

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<v Speaker 6>that's the guy that you fear about missing that all

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<v Speaker 6>of a sudden he gets picked and you should have

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<v Speaker 6>watched it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're watching some seventh round guy that's probably not

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<v Speaker 2>going to get picked. You know, that's how you have

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<v Speaker 2>to use your time.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, the scouting world, the media scouts sometimes

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<v Speaker 6>are behind the real scouts.

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<v Speaker 2>And luckily that you know, when I was fortunate enough

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<v Speaker 2>to work with some real scouts and there's like, no, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to watch the scout. Yeah, you gotta go wch.

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<v Speaker 5>I was glad you recommended him because he was a

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<v Speaker 5>fun watch, especially against Brodery Jones and that game against

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<v Speaker 5>Rorty about that show and they had a good battle.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't have a whole bunch of implanty y'all said

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<v Speaker 8>everything y'all need to say about him.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was going to say, when.

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<v Speaker 8>You talk about his length and his arms, I wrote

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<v Speaker 8>down has to find consistent leverage.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just because, like you.

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<v Speaker 8>Guys mentioned, sometimes he is so trying to get upfield

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<v Speaker 8>that he can get overpowered. I've seen it a couple

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<v Speaker 8>of times, and he's not not powerful, like he has power.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just that the leverage thing. Sometimes. I like how

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<v Speaker 4>he disengages.

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<v Speaker 8>That's one of my favorite things about him, is how

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<v Speaker 8>he disengages and how he wants to disengage, Like he's

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<v Speaker 8>trying to get these guys.

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<v Speaker 4>He tossed the guy a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with those arms.

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<v Speaker 5>It's when he plays with his he uses his reach

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<v Speaker 5>to his advantage, and he doesn't do it enough. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>when he's able to extend and then scrape off, that's

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<v Speaker 5>when he's kind of at his best. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 5>to ask you guys, because I was watching Andrew Vore.

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<v Speaker 5>He's the USC guard who had that unfortunate towards a right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where would you guys pick him? Because he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>a heck of a football player, man.

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<v Speaker 4>I would just pick him.

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<v Speaker 2>We're at huh, what do you mean just whenever?

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<v Speaker 4>Noah, I don't know about I wouldn't be afraid for

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<v Speaker 4>the cowboys. I don't know by everyboyoo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but with.

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<v Speaker 8>This train of staff that they have here and stuff,

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<v Speaker 8>I would not be afraid to pick him.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe in the coming off a c O.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, al, maybe in the fourth yeaheah. I think that's fair,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think that to me.

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<v Speaker 6>There used to be a time in the uh in

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<v Speaker 6>the drafting back in the day, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>if they'd do it as much anymore. My last room

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<v Speaker 6>I sat in was two thousand and five, but we

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<v Speaker 6>used to do this. The fourth round was like the

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<v Speaker 6>criminal injured ground round if you were a criminal, if

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<v Speaker 6>you're a criminal, just being honest, you know, just being honest.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where Brian would have gotten picked.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, this is but the fourth round was always for

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<v Speaker 6>the criminal guys and the injured guys. You know, if

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<v Speaker 6>you had something where you were thinking, Okay, something happened,

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<v Speaker 6>but we need to give this guy his due, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Where would you know that that?

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<v Speaker 6>Now that you know, you bring up an interesting point

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<v Speaker 6>because and I used to work criminals, so it sounds

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<v Speaker 6>terrible and I'm about to say a player's name, but

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<v Speaker 6>this is where a guy like Lyle Collins comes into play. Okay, so,

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<v Speaker 6>all of a sudden, Lyle Collins is in a draft

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<v Speaker 6>and Lyle Collins's first round ability coming out of LSU,

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<v Speaker 6>and then all of a sudden things started popping up

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<v Speaker 6>hanging over his head about potential criminal issues, and all

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<v Speaker 6>of a sudden, now everybody's sending their security people to

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<v Speaker 6>Baton Rouge to figure out what's going on, and nobody

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<v Speaker 6>could really get a handle on it. So you didn't

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<v Speaker 6>want to select Lyle Collins if you didn't have all

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<v Speaker 6>the information. And so then it turned into, well, let's

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<v Speaker 6>just go after him as a free agent.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see. You know, we're not you know, no harm,

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<v Speaker 2>no foul here.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, if we get beat on this, if it

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<v Speaker 6>works out, if it doesn't work out, we don't lose anything.

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<v Speaker 6>So but there was a time, like I said, where

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<v Speaker 6>we would sit there in the fourth round and if

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<v Speaker 6>you knew all the information, but we're just a little bit,

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<v Speaker 6>just a little bit, you know, maybe a little bit hesitant,

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<v Speaker 6>but you're like, now we need to take this guy.

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<v Speaker 6>That worth round was always the medical and always that

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<v Speaker 6>round where you you did that, but Lyle was one

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<v Speaker 6>of those guys that you didn't have all the information

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<v Speaker 6>to put him up on the board with confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>And where by no means calling Andrew voorh he's a

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<v Speaker 3>criminal and compares to criminals.

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<v Speaker 2>In the medicals.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just I'm sorry that I'm just being I'm being

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<v Speaker 6>really honest about how scouting works. Sure, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>and these teams say that they don't you know, it's

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<v Speaker 6>in those war rooms you say things. I live this,

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm just giving you an idea. Yeah, am I

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<v Speaker 6>calling these guys criminals? No, they're criminal things that they

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<v Speaker 6>might have done right, some background stuff, background stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's one of those guys. Man.

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<v Speaker 5>I think for the Cowboys, he's interesting to consider because

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<v Speaker 5>you look at the guard position, like maybe he doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>play for you this year, so is he going to

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<v Speaker 5>come in and help right away? But the future of

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<v Speaker 5>Zach Martin? How many more years is you going to play?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want to be able to take a guy

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<v Speaker 5>who might be a Day two pick and most raps

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<v Speaker 5>could be a second rounder and you're able to get

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<v Speaker 5>him early day three because of the injury and he

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<v Speaker 5>falls because to me, the way that he's able to

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<v Speaker 5>run block, the way that he's constantly able to finish blocks.

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<v Speaker 5>He's always turning those legs driving blockers back. I think

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<v Speaker 5>he's run blocking's better than his past blocking. But he's

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<v Speaker 5>super technical. He's very consistent. You know exactly what you're getting.

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<v Speaker 5>And the ACL injuries I don't think scared teams as

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<v Speaker 5>much as they used to.

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<v Speaker 8>I was about to say, if you the Cowboys you like, well,

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know what that's going like right now, but

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<v Speaker 8>I will say, whatever Terrence Steele is doing, hey Andrew,

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<v Speaker 8>can y'all get together and talk about it or whatever

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<v Speaker 8>the case may be and see if we can get

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<v Speaker 8>him on the same regiment, because I mean, yeah, acls

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<v Speaker 8>are slowly but surely. I remember growing up when I

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<v Speaker 8>would see a guy terr at ACL in NFL, I

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<v Speaker 8>felt like his.

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<v Speaker 7>Career was over.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I felt like his career was done.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think that modern technology, also modern medicine and

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<v Speaker 8>just fantastic training, different regiments and stuff are starting to

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<v Speaker 8>allow players.

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<v Speaker 4>To come back earlier.

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<v Speaker 8>What would what would his timeline, well, the normally normal

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<v Speaker 8>a CL timeline, What are you looking at possibly getting boy?

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<v Speaker 3>He he would be If so, he tore it at

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<v Speaker 3>the combine, that's early March, like late February.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you would have him for the year. No, No,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be sometime in the middle of.

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<v Speaker 6>This is this is this is a pick and stash

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<v Speaker 6>is what this is. This is a pick and stash.

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<v Speaker 3>See, and I think with that I would be comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>in the fifth give me a give.

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<v Speaker 2>Me a fifth round pick. And if that's the case.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a two time All American and he played

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<v Speaker 3>a ton of games for USC. He started as a

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<v Speaker 3>freshman and continued through the COVID year and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>He was voted the best blocker in the PAC twelve. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you can see it.

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<v Speaker 6>It's called the excuse me, I think it's called the

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<v Speaker 6>Morris Trophy that they give you the best blocker in

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<v Speaker 6>the in the PAC twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean he's he's.

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<v Speaker 6>Everything you really talk about in an offensive lineman. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>he's he's made a bunch of starts.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He is. The thing that he might struggle with a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit is and I don't know if you noticed this,

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<v Speaker 2>he gets a little top heavy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the way he play, and so you wonder if

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<v Speaker 6>if you become. If you're a top heavy player, are

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<v Speaker 6>you gonna be able to recover.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that against better competition? Are you gonna be able?

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<v Speaker 6>And not that the Pac twelve plays bad football, They've

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<v Speaker 6>got outstanding players, but are you going to be able

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<v Speaker 6>to recover if you get a little top heavy, if

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<v Speaker 6>you get off balance and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. That's the thing that.

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<v Speaker 6>I only worry about him, But man, he is. This

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<v Speaker 6>guy is a blue collar, hard working guy. That I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>the knee been, the foot quickness. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>things about him that you can surely like.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that I need to go look at.

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<v Speaker 3>But about Vorhee specifically, because I watched his twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>two tape and he's solid. He's a solid player. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought the top heaviness was there. I thought the way

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<v Speaker 3>that he reset was kind of iffy at times. But

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<v Speaker 3>from a most from a footwork standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a good blocker.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing I heard.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that his twenty one tape was better than his

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two tape. And I have not watched his twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one tape yet, okay, and I heard it was much better.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's something that we look into. Hey, maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>pushed his great up in the fourth round. This guy, though,

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<v Speaker 3>does have a history of knee problems.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So I mean, so if you go back and

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<v Speaker 6>you check his medical stuff, he's had a foot problem,

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<v Speaker 6>he's had a knee problem. I'm sure he's played through

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of things. And I think at twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 6>he had a meniscus tear that he was dealing with too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I did so, So you know, you're talking about a

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<v Speaker 6>guy that as an offensive lineman that the wear and

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<v Speaker 6>tear on these guys is not great. You know, are

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<v Speaker 6>you drafting a guy that's always going to be dealing

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<v Speaker 6>with injuries like that?

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<v Speaker 4>There's knees that's something to look at.

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<v Speaker 8>And then also too, just it sounds like the conversation

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<v Speaker 8>of age has been a thing also through this this

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<v Speaker 8>draft in particular, And so, yeah, being a five year

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<v Speaker 8>starter is great, But then when you possibly I missed

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<v Speaker 8>this year, first year, how old is he gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be twenty five and a half by the

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<v Speaker 2>time he sees his first.

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<v Speaker 4>NFL And I wonder if that matters to any of these.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's a that's something that I remember because we

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<v Speaker 6>drafted when I was here, we drafted Terrence Newman out

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<v Speaker 6>of Kansas State, and he was an older corner and

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<v Speaker 6>everybody's like, why would you take an older corner?

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<v Speaker 2>And then he played like eighteen years. He played till

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<v Speaker 2>he was forty. Yeah, played eighteen years or something. That

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<v Speaker 2>was crazy with Terrence.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think what's going to happen is we're going

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<v Speaker 6>to see a cycle because of the COVID seasons and

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<v Speaker 6>people going back. So I have a feeling people are

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<v Speaker 6>going to say, oh, he's an older player. Well, half

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<v Speaker 6>the damn draft is older too, because the guys that

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<v Speaker 6>came back and the inns allowed them to take that

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<v Speaker 6>extra year.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're going to see some It was a corner, that's.

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<v Speaker 6>A it was a five year starter that I looked

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<v Speaker 6>at the other day. But you know, there's, like I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 6>there's there's these guys that you know, we're playing forty

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<v Speaker 6>fifty games, you know, because yeah, because well somebody was

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<v Speaker 6>looking at.

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<v Speaker 3>But Entrey Braswell from a cornerback spot, was born in

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<v Speaker 3>ninety eight, so he's going to be twenty five very soon.

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<v Speaker 6>I saying, the COVID seasons, it'll catch back up to

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<v Speaker 6>where they will.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they no longer have the option.

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<v Speaker 6>But we're going to get through that cycle of those

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<v Speaker 6>older players and then they're gonna be through.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have some five and six year guys playing.

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<v Speaker 3>You also add in the new element of the nil

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<v Speaker 3>and how college athletes, collegiate athletes, athletes can make money, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>while playing willing to stay, so it makes it more

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<v Speaker 3>enticing to stick around until their senior year. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to leave as juniors, they don't have to leave

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<v Speaker 3>as red shirt sophomores. They can stick around and make

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<v Speaker 3>their money at the collegiate level as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Aisha, Let's let's hear about somebody else that you watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to try.

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<v Speaker 3>My goal today is just to talk prospects. I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to be war room. Let's do this prospects out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a ton of Twitter on the twenty that

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<v Speaker 3>are specifically tell me more. And then we'll get to

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<v Speaker 3>beamer in that third seven as well. So who did

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<v Speaker 3>you watch most recently?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, last night I watched j Brown from Penn State. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I hadn't gotten a chance to look at him. I

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<v Speaker 8>mentioned no girls talk, boys talk that I feel like

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<v Speaker 8>safety is something that we have just totally neglected to

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<v Speaker 8>talk about just because we don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 8>It's I think we don't consider it a need for

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<v Speaker 8>the Cowboys right like early in the draft. But it

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<v Speaker 8>is somewhere that I think they could address. But I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like he's so active. He's an electric player, Like

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<v Speaker 8>there's an energy to him. He's so willing to help

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<v Speaker 8>defending the run too, and I love that about I

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<v Speaker 8>love that about him. They use him in blitzing situations

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<v Speaker 8>because he can get there. He has the speed and

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<v Speaker 8>the tenacity. I think that his sideline, the sideline can

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<v Speaker 8>improve as far as coverage, But coming downhill, I mean's

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<v Speaker 8>he's disrespectful, disrespectful. I think that I misspoke because I

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<v Speaker 8>said that I liked JL Skinner. I felt like he

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<v Speaker 8>kind of was more like a Donald. I see a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of Donald and this guy and the way he

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<v Speaker 8>plays and how vicious he plays.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a tone setter in the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he had Skinner right well, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I just I feel like with this guy, just

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<v Speaker 8>kind of in comparison to when I when I saw

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<v Speaker 8>Donovan coming out, I was like, Okay, just God's great downhill,

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<v Speaker 8>but I didn't know if it's coveragability fantastic. I think

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<v Speaker 8>Jo has better coveragability than what I thought Donovan had

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<v Speaker 8>coming out.

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<v Speaker 4>In my opinion.

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<v Speaker 8>But anyway, I feel like he impacts the game. I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like he impacts the game because he's so willing

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<v Speaker 8>to be everywhere and it's hard to get him off

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<v Speaker 8>the field.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's one thing I'm noticing about a lot.

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<v Speaker 8>Of these players that are good. They have this thing

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<v Speaker 8>where they're like, especially DB's, They're like, I want to

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<v Speaker 8>play Nickel, I want to be able to play in

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<v Speaker 8>the box. I want to be able to because they

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<v Speaker 8>don't want to come off the field. And he's one

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<v Speaker 8>of those guys. Listening to some of his interviews too,

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<v Speaker 8>he does not want to come off the field, so

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<v Speaker 8>he's trying to do as much as he can do.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got that dog in him.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think his angles.

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<v Speaker 8>I think the further away he gets from the line

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<v Speaker 8>of scrimmage, his angles.

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<v Speaker 4>Can get a little questionable.

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<v Speaker 8>But that's normal, right, I think, no offense, But I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like those are things that safeties have to come

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<v Speaker 8>and continue to learn. But one hundred and twenty two

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<v Speaker 8>tackles and ten picks in two seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Is nasty. Always around the line.

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<v Speaker 6>He completely nailed him seriously, and I mean, I mean

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<v Speaker 6>the first line out of I think is a much

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<v Speaker 6>better down player than he is back. He does his

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<v Speaker 6>to always want to be around the ball, and he's

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<v Speaker 6>got a career of being around the ball, and you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he's aggressive to a faulty, you know, And there's some

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<v Speaker 6>times where he plays like it's a fire drill where

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<v Speaker 6>he's just kind of running around all over the place

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<v Speaker 6>and you're thinking, like is he really seeing what's going on?

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<v Speaker 6>But then he kind of figures it out and then

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<v Speaker 6>he gets over to the ball. I think the body

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<v Speaker 6>control and balance is going to have to improve a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit at coverage, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that's his best suit.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I's right put him down the box, let

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<v Speaker 6>him tackle, let him like turn people over down there

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<v Speaker 6>and be the physical player.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, he is. He is a He's one of those.

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<v Speaker 6>Guys that kind of thrives in chaos, is what I

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<v Speaker 6>put about him as a safety.

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<v Speaker 5>I was a fan of his, but I think we're

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<v Speaker 5>all coming back to the possibly nervous about him and coverage.

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<v Speaker 5>Like you could see he can get exposed when he's

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<v Speaker 5>asked to flip his hips and cover downfield, so he's

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<v Speaker 5>at his best downhill filling against the run. But for

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<v Speaker 5>the Cowboys, I do think they seem to always be

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<v Speaker 5>looking at these safeties, right because DQ, at least while

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<v Speaker 5>he's been here. And you can always have coaching turnover.

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<v Speaker 5>We know that, So I don't know that you should

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<v Speaker 5>always draft for a specific system or coach. But he

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<v Speaker 5>likes using multiple safeties, and he'll use his safety as

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<v Speaker 5>a linebacker. And Jaiir Brown is kind of one of

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<v Speaker 5>those guys that he could fill, you know, in nickel

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<v Speaker 5>dime packages. He could be essentially a sublimebacker. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 5>because he's best when he's closer to the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 5>And I did put as well, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 5>weren't able to resign because I watched him before the

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<v Speaker 5>Donovan Wilson deal got done, if you couldn't re sign donoh,

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<v Speaker 5>he's a guy that could be a replacement there. So

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with you one hundred percent on h Myisha.

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<v Speaker 2>So does the length worry you at all?

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<v Speaker 3>He's five foot eleven even two oh three, And I

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<v Speaker 3>mean we were talking about JL Skinner Skinner's a different

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<v Speaker 3>body type in terms of a safety because Jae Skinner's

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<v Speaker 3>six foot four, two ten.

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<v Speaker 2>So would you put Jay R.

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<v Speaker 3>Brown up there with the Skinners and the Johnson's and

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<v Speaker 3>the battles that we've kind of mentioned in the top

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<v Speaker 3>echelon of that safety class or is he in another tier?

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<v Speaker 2>Should kind of stack him?

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<v Speaker 8>I think it me personally, it depends on what you

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<v Speaker 8>need him to come in and do. I now, and

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<v Speaker 8>we understand that the big nickel is something that a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of teams are starting to revert to.

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<v Speaker 4>Just given the fact that I just feel.

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<v Speaker 8>Like, well, I will say the Cowboys luxury that they

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<v Speaker 8>have with their safeties is not the norm. I don't

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<v Speaker 8>feel like it's the norm to be like, oh let

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<v Speaker 8>me put three safeties out there. So for the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 8>he would fit. Now, if you want your safety to

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<v Speaker 8>do more cover stuff, then maybe not. Maybe if it

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<v Speaker 8>just I think it depends on the system.

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<v Speaker 2>Personally, that makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's he's in line with his Skinner for me,

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<v Speaker 5>like I might have him a little bit a little

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<v Speaker 5>bit better than Skinner in certain areas.

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<v Speaker 2>Certain areas, Yeah, for me, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Mean, because there's certain strength that I think Skinner has

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<v Speaker 5>over Brown, but there's certain where I would take Brown

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<v Speaker 5>over Skinner. I think overall, I might like Brown a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit more than I like Skinner. So I think

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<v Speaker 5>he's right in that same top, same conversation. That's a

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<v Speaker 5>propis top.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred, Brown eighty two, Skinner eighty eight.

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's I think there's a difference between the

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<v Speaker 6>two players, and and I'm not a I have Skinner

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<v Speaker 6>Brown in the same round. Yeah, where, but I would

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<v Speaker 6>take Brown over Skinner on my board.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting because we've been very high on Skinner throughout

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<v Speaker 3>and that's not pushing Skinner, but that's that shows just

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<v Speaker 3>how high we are on Dyer Brown and what he

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<v Speaker 3>brings to the table. Yep, Zach, you got a player.

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<v Speaker 5>So I did watch the Miszoo kid, I watched war

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<v Speaker 5>He's how about Trade Dean, the safety from Florida. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen split opinions on him. Okay, so Trade Dean's

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<v Speaker 5>not a guy. He's a Day three pick for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, He's a guy that you know, maybe maybe they

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<v Speaker 5>end up a fifth, sixth rounder. I've got a six

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<v Speaker 5>round grade on him because I think this dude's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be a special teamer and then he's going to

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<v Speaker 5>have to end up competing to get on the field

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<v Speaker 5>as a starting safety. But he's got the football blood

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<v Speaker 5>lines his cousin Amad Black, which drafted by the Bucks

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<v Speaker 5>in the fifth round in twenty eleven. He's another guy

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<v Speaker 5>much like we were just talking about with jayuy Brown.

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<v Speaker 5>He's constantly around the football. He led the team in tackles.

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<v Speaker 5>He can cover tight ends. I think he moves really well,

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<v Speaker 5>looks fluid. He's got a smooth backpedal. I would like

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<v Speaker 5>to see him break on the football a little bit quicker.

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<v Speaker 5>He's going to be in position to make plays, but

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<v Speaker 5>he doesn't quite close fast enough when he gets play recognition.

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<v Speaker 2>He might be a tick late, but he's athletic.

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<v Speaker 5>He's tough, he's willing to hit, can step in and

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<v Speaker 5>cover the slot and carry receivers downfield. Now, he didn't

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<v Speaker 5>test great at the combine, but he looks a lot

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<v Speaker 5>more athletic and fast on tape. He will over pursue,

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't always finish, so I think special teams he's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be an immediate starter, but he's probably going to

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<v Speaker 5>be a backup safety. Initially, and then we'll see how

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<v Speaker 5>his career develops, if he can end up being a starter.

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<v Speaker 5>But I like Trayding. I mean he's a guy that

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<v Speaker 5>also you talk about a safety that's always around the football,

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<v Speaker 5>he goes and finds it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he's one of those guys that, to me, you're right,

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<v Speaker 6>he doesn't play as fast, but when you look at

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<v Speaker 6>the testing numbers, he's got elite numbers. When it comes

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<v Speaker 6>to like three cone drills and stuff like that, he's

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<v Speaker 6>got twenty five on the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's like verticals D he's got.

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<v Speaker 6>If you have quickness, if you have strength, he's got

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<v Speaker 6>recognition too. He just doesn't have really good time speed,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. So that's the thing about him. I think

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<v Speaker 6>the thing is, you know, the length, the toughness, the

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<v Speaker 6>movement part of him, I think is pretty good with him.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're telling me that he's got the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to the redirection skills and stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Like that because of the three cones and the shuttles

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<v Speaker 6>and stuff like that, that's something that a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>these NFL teams look at. They look at those shuttle numbers,

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<v Speaker 6>they look at the three If a guy doesn't run fast,

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<v Speaker 6>they're like well, okay, it's not like he's deficient in

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<v Speaker 6>all these areas. But I think you got him right

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<v Speaker 6>where you do in the sixth round. Yeah, I totally

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<v Speaker 6>agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, did you get to see him at all?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a little bit. You're not a big fan, No,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a fan. I just think he has normal safety stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, well he did nothing to like, did wow you

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<v Speaker 2>in any way?

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<v Speaker 8>I mean no, I thought I thought he was decent.

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<v Speaker 8>What I'm saying is is like even his deficiencies to me, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Understand.

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm trying to find the balance and evaluate and like,

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<v Speaker 8>is this something he can get better at?

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<v Speaker 4>Is this is this? I asked myself the ceiling.

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<v Speaker 8>For a safety and most of his weaknesses besides like

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<v Speaker 8>the lack of burst that I see him have sometimes,

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<v Speaker 8>or lack of like aks I have to he has

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<v Speaker 8>sometimes are normal things to me.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I think we talked about angles, just he's

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<v Speaker 4>a tackling machine.

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<v Speaker 8>But you ain't gonna make every single one of them.

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<v Speaker 8>So yeah, no, I like his I like his range

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<v Speaker 8>for the most part. I like his range.

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<v Speaker 4>And he looks the part, like you said, he looks

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<v Speaker 4>the part. He looks like a guy. But I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't with the testing.

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<v Speaker 8>You think the testing is gonna help make him drop

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<v Speaker 8>because I feel like what I saw in film was

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<v Speaker 8>different than when I saw testing.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, I agree, the test, the testing, the testing is

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<v Speaker 6>going to give him a chance to be drafted, probably

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<v Speaker 6>earlier than we have him on our boards.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. But that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>The thing if he was running a four to six,

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<v Speaker 6>and then it was also the testing numbers were poor,

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<v Speaker 6>then you you would probably say he's he's undraftable.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I mean, well, he ran a four s.

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<v Speaker 3>He went ran a four to seven five, which is

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<v Speaker 3>not good, not good safety.

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<v Speaker 5>But he looks to me he played faster when I

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<v Speaker 5>watched him, and they do have him play in covering

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<v Speaker 5>the slots, and I think that he can cover tight ends.

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<v Speaker 5>I think for safeties now, when you're looking at him,

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<v Speaker 5>especially this tight end classes we've talked about it, that's

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<v Speaker 5>super important. Like if you have a safety that you

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<v Speaker 5>don't think can come up and cover a tight end,

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<v Speaker 5>that's gonna be a liability in your defense.

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<v Speaker 4>How can I just that's not a fast time for seek.

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<v Speaker 2>No as bad, not at all terrible. All the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of his numbers and Brian brought this up. The rest

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<v Speaker 2>of his numbers are fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Vertical was thirty six and a half, which is the like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's above average score. You've got ten or ten zero

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<v Speaker 3>zero four broad jump. You've got a four to two

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<v Speaker 3>six and four broad is what?

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<v Speaker 2>That was? Decent? Yeah, that's sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to think of how to say that

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<v Speaker 3>without having the scouting number on there. But the uh,

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers outside of the forty were okay. And then

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<v Speaker 3>he went to his prota and he ran a four

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<v Speaker 3>to six eight. Yeah, but his ten yard split was

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<v Speaker 3>worse than it was at the combine, so it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really help out his case a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But trading is.

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<v Speaker 3>The curious case of the safety position here. In twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three, all right, well we come back. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>do some twitter on the twenty including a ton of questions.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had four or five questions about a fullback. What

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<v Speaker 2>See you out there, crawfish and that stuff too. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>there you go, crawfish. Nice, see you out there, there

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<v Speaker 2>you go. Yeah, we'll see you out there. Those tight

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<v Speaker 2>ends April thirty first or whatever it is. Huh, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you feel abou those tight ends? Man, don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Washington is offa's board done out of the out of

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<v Speaker 2>the question.

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<v Speaker 8>I was saying that that might also, that might be

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<v Speaker 8>a deterrent for some of these I hear you.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish there was I wish, But I also don't

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<v Speaker 2>wish there was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Mic that was hot in like in the break, just

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<v Speaker 3>to see the conversation. That's what I'm saying. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>wish because we would not have jobs. But if we

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<v Speaker 3>had job, I mean, if we were able to keep

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<v Speaker 3>think it'd be great, be awesome. All right, stop stop talking,

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<v Speaker 3>shut your mouth, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a ton of questions on some Twitter. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's okay. We'll get back after it next week. You're good,

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<v Speaker 2>You're good.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a ton of questions on Twitter on the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty with the fullback position, and there was one that

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<v Speaker 3>specifically has peaked the interest of Cowboys Nation. His name

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<v Speaker 3>is Hunter lip Key from North Dakota State. That's how

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<v Speaker 3>you say it, Hunter lip Key. But he's from the Bison,

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<v Speaker 3>North Dakota State. Decent player. Has anybody watched him? Anybody

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<v Speaker 3>think about how he could fit into this mold because

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<v Speaker 3>Mike McCarthy has been known to love himself some fullbacks,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is one that some people have as high

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<v Speaker 3>as the fourth or fifth round.

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<v Speaker 4>What I've heard about him, I have not watched him

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<v Speaker 4>myself yet.

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<v Speaker 5>I probably saw a little bit of him when I

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<v Speaker 5>was watching Cody malk Yeah, okay, but you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know what, to me, it's funny that you say this

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<v Speaker 6>about the fullback and we should probably may I know me,

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<v Speaker 6>I should probably do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I have not seen this guy play no.

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<v Speaker 6>Either, and and to me, it's it's one of those

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<v Speaker 6>things where here I am, I'm preaching about your missing

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<v Speaker 6>guys or whatever, and I don't know, I don't He

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 6>uses a fullback, right, he ain't picking a full back

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<v Speaker 6>in the fourth round.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I just don't see that. Are you drafting

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>a full back or is that a UFA guy? Well?

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 6>Right, it might be a thing where you're looking like

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 6>you say, you're looking at trades and stuff in the

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 6>sixth and seventh round. And I'm not trying to make

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 6>excuses why I didn't see the guy. But right now

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 6>I'm sitting there trying to figure out you know, twenty

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 6>two running backs probably need to figure out one full back.

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>I can probably need to do one or two kickers.

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<v Speaker 5>Too, Brian, you know this better than us. When's the

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 5>last time the Cowboys selected a full back?

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Right? I don't know if they I don't think they

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.479
<v Speaker 2>have to. Maybe like Robert Newhouse.

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we're trying to cram and get I'm trying to

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 5>get to a minimum of two. You need to look

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 5>at the I'll look at Hunter Lipkey tonight.

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:45.959
<v Speaker 2>You need Yeah. Absolutely.

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 3>Here's here's my scouting report that I had on him

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 3>for the draft magazine because I liked him at the

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Combine or not the Combine.

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, the Senior Bowl and the Senior Bowl tape

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:56.240
<v Speaker 2>that he was at the Senior Bowl and Mobile. He

0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>was pretty impressive. I said.

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 3>He moves exceptionally well without the ball in his hands,

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 3>takes the right angles to make a block in space,

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 3>and he runs crisp routes and keeps his footwork contained

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 3>as he gets moving.

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Can nearly play every position behind the line of scrimmage,

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>except for quarterback, of course.

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 3>But I said, when he has the ball in his hands,

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 3>there's just no yards after the catch factor whatsoever. He'll

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 3>labor into defenders instead of trying to avoid them. He

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 3>also gets pushed off the line of scrimmage by bigger

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 3>defenders when he tries to set a block whenever he

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have momentum behind him.

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 2>So whenever he's just at the line of scrimmage, he's

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 2>coming up.

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 3>He needs a head of steam to really latch onto

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 3>a defender and let him ride backwards. Said not not

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 3>a tight end contingency. He runs the routes, He's able

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:39.719
<v Speaker 3>to create a little bit of separation, but as soon

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 3>as he catches the ball like he's sitting duck, that's about.

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 8>It, which makes me sad because I actually did. I

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 8>glanced at him and I said, lateral quickness question mark

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 8>so that's kind of him.

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>It's not good, I know.

0:31:55.360 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 8>And then injury bug I said, hurt guy a couple.

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 4>I think he's had a surgery, he had.

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 3>A left shoulder, he missed the final five games of

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 3>this past year, and he had some sort of undisclosed

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.720
<v Speaker 3>injury in twenty twenty through the COVID year.

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 8>And the only thing and it really like Kyle, you

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 8>made some good points about him, just kind of what

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 8>you saw from him. When you guys go back and see,

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 8>I'm sure you will talk about it. But when the

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 8>only reason I would take a fullback in like the

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 8>fourth or something, you looking at a use check. Everybody

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 8>and their mama, Yeah, wants to find the next Kyle

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 8>use check. And with the lack of lateral quickness, it

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 8>kind of takes that away. I don't think that use

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 8>check is just but the fact that you can use

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:41.719
<v Speaker 8>him in so many different ways and an open space,

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 8>not just coming downhill all the time. It's not always

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 8>just him coming downhill. So I feel like that lessens

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 8>his his I don't like the s well, I don't

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 8>like the stock word, but his draft stock. With the

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 8>fact that there's not use check like qualities all the

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 8>way around it. If I'm gonna take if I'm gonna

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 8>draft a fullback in this game, he gotta have got to.

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Have some of that.

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 5>I want a freak athlete that can be a mismatch

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 5>for you. They can get involved in the passing game.

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 5>He's also going to be a good blocker. I mean,

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 5>I I like the question because I think it's challenging.

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 5>It's challenging me to be more like, all right, let

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 5>me pay more attention to the fullback position, because that's

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 5>one that I think we kind of gloss over.

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 2>When I know I do. I do every time. I

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 2>do every time. I wasn't even having him on there.

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 6>Now I do it every time because to me, like

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 6>I said, you get affected by there's other ways to.

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Get around not I'm sure.

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 6>If somebody said, hey, you've seen this kid from North

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 6>Dakota State at the fullback, that's you know, like, oh

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 6>no I haven't. Oh well you need to watch him

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 6>that kind of thing. There you go, you know, and

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 6>I I do. I mean I feel like that somebody

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 6>could take it. I will say this, if he has

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 6>a history of shoulder problems and he's a fullback, you're out.

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 6>You're not going to be not going to be considered

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 6>very high because that to me, I mean, that's that's

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 6>your whole that's your livelihood.

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 2>You were going to be a battering ram at the

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>point of attack. And if you're dealing with shoulder and.

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 6>Neck issues as a fullback, that's not gonna get you

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 6>on many, many, many drafts.

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 5>I think some of the other fullbacks that we we'd

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 5>look at, Javon Williams junior Southern Illinois is a senior

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 5>Ioways got a kid, Monte Pottobomb that could be under consideration.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 5>But again, I don't know if these guys are gonna

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 5>get drafted. They might be undrafted for rookie free agents

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 5>that the Cowboys could end up bringing in. And maybe

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:21.799
<v Speaker 5>Lipkey is a guy that does. But I'll watch him tonight.

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 5>I'll take a look at lip Key.

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:26.399
<v Speaker 3>I've heard Jack's Deneen was kind of impressive from Kansas State.

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 3>That's another fullback that could kind of be in that

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.800
<v Speaker 3>that realm. All of these guys are probably undrafted free agents.

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Except for lip Key. I think he's the only draft

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 2>that's take a look out. And Cowboys Twitter has been

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>on them.

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 3>They've they've sent multiple questions about lip key because you

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 3>look at John.

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 5>Coon who is so good in Green Bay with Mike McCarthy.

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 5>So I can see McCarthy maybe wanting to get a

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:48.359
<v Speaker 5>full back and one that he likes a lot.

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 4>And trust yeah, no more, no more tight ends.

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 5>As no more you know, the h Ben McGovern package,

0:34:57.600 --> 0:34:58.320
<v Speaker 5>the whole package.

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:00.399
<v Speaker 8>Can we see that completely go with I We'll say

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 8>that sometimes it was it was successful when there was

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 8>a tight end.

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but maybe team switched to doing something like that.

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 4>But that's kind of actually gotta make you kind of

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 4>sad because growing up, fullback was a thing.

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, man, Well there was.

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 4>A part, there was a part of it.

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.120
<v Speaker 8>There was a point in football that fullback was like

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 8>if you didn't have one, it was looked at it

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 8>as a weak point in.

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 4>Your own game. And so now that the games transition to.

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 6>What's so spread right, Well, this this organization has a

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:26.320
<v Speaker 6>great history of fullbacks.

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I went all the way back to Robert Newhouse in

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 2>the seventies.

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 6>You know, Darryl Johnston, you know what he's done through

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 6>his the Super Bowl runs and stuff like that. So

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, absolutely, it's a it's a it's a depending

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 6>on how your scheme is and how you run the ball.

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 6>You know that's that could be a that could be

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.400
<v Speaker 6>a big reason why you have success doing it all.

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Right, next Twitter on the twenty question, tell me more

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 3>about Jackson player, defensive tackle out of Baylor. Has anybody

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 3>seen Jackson player? If you haven't, well we can move

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 3>on to the next name. Anybody seen him? You got him?

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 3>You're a Baylor guy. I am a Baylor guy. But

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 3>if you got him, go don't have him. He actually

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 3>went to my high school. I will tell you he's

0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 3>still Waco Midway grad. I watched a lot of uh sika,

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 3>yeah from from Baylor. I watched a lot of him,

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.720
<v Speaker 3>and I just kind of caught a glimpse of Jackson player.

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know a ton about him, even though he

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 3>did go to my high school. Uh what about Kayu

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Blue Kelly from Stanford. Now now we're cooking, Now you're cooking.

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 3>Now we're cooking. Uh yeah, this is uh yeah.

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:33.399
<v Speaker 6>Stanford was not very good uh at football this year,

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 6>and that was that was one of the reasons why

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 6>my buddy Dave Shaw uh resigned. So but he you know,

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:42.879
<v Speaker 6>they do they every once in a while. Stanford will

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.479
<v Speaker 6>put in a They do have a great history of

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 6>being able to come up with these guys that that are.

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 6>You know, like with with Shaw, they were super super,

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 6>super tough. I'm trying to get to my notes. Here

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 6>may our our system here at the Cowboys, we're having

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 6>our internet crusty over ky Do you have you seen

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:03.720
<v Speaker 6>this player what's the name Kyu Blue?

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kye Blue Kelly. Yeah at the corner. Yeah, good player.

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 12>Uh.

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Now him versus Jordan Addison, I've got him right here,

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 2>then go for it, go for it. Then I'll fill

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 2>in the Yeah.

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 6>He's a thin looking player on tape and super competitive

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 6>in the way he plays. Uh, but he'll line up

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.839
<v Speaker 6>on both sides of the field. He's comfortable playing at

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 6>depth or playing up tight. You can he can run

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 6>with this guy. He has really good hand use and

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 6>skill to maintain his position while moving. I thought he

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 6>did a really nice job of reading the route as

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 6>it developed. He tracks the ball well enough, has a

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 6>feel for how to high point or play in the

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.240
<v Speaker 6>air with his or he could play with his off hand.

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 13>Uh.

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 2>You know there were times where he was denying the football. Uh.

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 6>It's the thing that he showed the ability that he

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 6>could be a physical tackler and he's more willing to

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 6>throw his body around to bring a ball carrier down.

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.720
<v Speaker 6>But sometimes he doesn't wrap up. It's just like throwing,

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 6>you know, throwing his body in there.

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:55.879
<v Speaker 2>Uh he did. He did try and tackle.

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 6>You watch him against Jordan Addison from USC and Addison

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 6>did break free from him for a touchdown.

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 2>But that was it.

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 6>I thought he had a smooth, relaxed pedal playing off.

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 6>He can really come out of his break when driving.

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 6>Type of player that can carry his man all of

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 6>a field. He does compete, and yeah, I think that's

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 6>the thing. That's probably his best trade of base six

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 6>one one ninety one two. So there's a that's the

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:17.879
<v Speaker 6>redeeming quality about him as well.

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 5>Not he had really good closing speed to make plays

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 5>against screens and hot routes. You can tell opposing offenses

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:24.279
<v Speaker 5>showed a lot of respect to him.

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 2>They didn't want to challenge him a lot.

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 5>Now he will get blocked, but he's competing like he's

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 5>constantly fighting back. He'll get shoved, he's gonna shove right back.

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 5>He's got some dog in him at corner, which I'm.

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Always looking for.

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 5>I think he can improve as a tackler. You mentioned

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 5>he got beat down field against Addison. I saw that

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 5>as well. He did give up some plays. I think

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 5>he lacks elite speed for the position. I think he's

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 5>at his best when he can get physical with the receiver.

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:47.240
<v Speaker 2>He stays in phase a little bit better.

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 5>He'll give up some inside leverage, so he can be

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 5>susceptible to some inbreaking routes, but he doesn't get fooled

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 5>by a lot of jukes and dance moves at the

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 5>line of scrimmage. He's got clean feet off the line.

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 5>As one of the notes that I put. I think

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 5>he's anyway, he's probably a third round range for me.

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 5>Is Kyu Blue Kelly. If you end up not taking

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 5>a corner, you know day one and then you're looking

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 5>at day two if you want to go tight end

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:10.759
<v Speaker 5>in the second round where we think there's going to

0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:13.320
<v Speaker 5>be a run or another position, Kyu Blue Kelly is

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 5>a good corner and take in round three.

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I'd be very happy with him.

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 6>He now got one hundred and forty two guys I've stacked,

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 6>and so he's number ninety nine on my board, so

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:24.879
<v Speaker 6>he's right inside the top one hundred for.

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Me right inside there, Kyu Blue Kelly to keep it.

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:32.040
<v Speaker 2>And the name's great. It is a great name. What

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>about City?

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:37.040
<v Speaker 3>So, speaking of a great name, City so offensive guard

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 3>from Eastern Michigan. Peter wanted to know a little bit

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 3>more about that Pete Small School offensive guard. I think

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:44.120
<v Speaker 3>I got this guy done.

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you could talk about him if feeling.

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I have not seen him. So I got two guys

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 2>that I need to watch the night. That's a part

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.200
<v Speaker 2>of the reason. Like I just want to throw names out.

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Then we got hopefully you throw names out that we've seen. Sorry,

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying City. So what you got? Brian?

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<v Speaker 6>He was the starter at left guard for the Eastern

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 6>Michigan e He's a massive man.

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 2>He tested very well.

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 6>At the combine, and the numbers don't always translate into

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 6>the film study. I would not call him a fluid mover,

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 6>but he's powerful. He can get movement when he comes

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 6>off the ball. His mass is difficult for opponents to

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 6>deal with. Keeps the feet moving at contact in the

0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 6>running game adequate to find the targets on those short pools.

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 2>He uses that full extension. He'll roll his hips to

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:24.840
<v Speaker 2>set his anchor. When he's bull rushed.

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 6>His punch is generally accurate and well timed. He pops

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 6>into a straight leg attack sometimes off the snap. You

0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:34.799
<v Speaker 6>got to be worried about him being a little tall,

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 6>but you know, there's some angle issues that he has

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 6>and he's you know, the body control for the extension

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 6>of the block could be a little bit of a

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.439
<v Speaker 6>problem for him. So, you know, he played a ton

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 6>of snaps at Eastern Michigan. He was He's a Canadian kid,

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 6>so he's gonna need I think he's going to need

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 6>some serious technique work.

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.279
<v Speaker 2>But size makes him worth the shot.

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I also say he said he played a

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 4>lot of snaps. I had that he's durable. He's durable,

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 4>like the guy play. He played a lot while he

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 4>was there. He didn't have a lot of injuries.

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 8>And then you mentioned the guard slash tackle flex with him,

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 8>which is important as well. I felt like he was

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 8>really stout at the point of attack. Like you were

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 8>talking about his vicious his punch is it's pretty vicious,

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 8>but I also felt like I'm seeing what else here. Oh,

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 8>I didn't like that he oversets.

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 4>He sets Okay, he.

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:25.760
<v Speaker 6>Has to almost compensate because he's probably when you overset.

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 6>You're probably a little bit worried about speed or him

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 6>having to deal with.

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 8>That's more because to me of his feet, more because

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 8>of his feet, not his hands. So again things he

0:41:36.000 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 8>can work on. Him and John Gains U.

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:40.440
<v Speaker 9>C l A.

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<v Speaker 4>I see a lot of similarities in their play.

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 8>They both, if I'm not mistake, and test it pretty

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 8>well at the combine. So those are two gentlemen that

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.160
<v Speaker 8>I wanted to bring up today anyway because they were

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 8>a little farther down the guard depth chart. But I

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 8>know that there's a possibility that we maybe are looking.

0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 3>At that tell me a little bit about Gains because

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 3>if the Cowboys don't go guard early, that could be

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 3>a big time pick up in the middle rounds for sure.

0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 4>On let me get onim.

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 6>I got him if you want to, all right, John

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 6>Gains at UCLA, he's the left guard for the Bruins.

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 6>He appears to be much larger and thicker on tape

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:18.800
<v Speaker 6>than his three to ozho three is what he weighs.

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.759
<v Speaker 6>He tested as the best guard at the combine, but

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 6>again he doesn't really play as well as he tested

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 6>their times where he's off balance, he struggles to keep

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:29.800
<v Speaker 6>his feet the body control and balance could be a

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 6>little bit all over the place with this guy. He

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.280
<v Speaker 6>tends to struggle on the second level when he's asked

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:37.840
<v Speaker 6>to get in those positions. He does have some stoutness

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 6>as a pass protector, but the more that he has

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:44.080
<v Speaker 6>to move, the more trouble he has staying connected with

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:44.760
<v Speaker 6>the rusher.

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:45.480
<v Speaker 8>Uh.

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:49.240
<v Speaker 6>He looked like a highly intelligent player and assignment sound

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 6>type of a guy. He started at center, at guard,

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 6>at tackle, you know, so you kind of like him

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 6>for the flexibility.

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 2>I feel like he could.

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 6>Find the targets and stuff like that, But again it's

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 6>that sustain with him hitting those landmarks and things like that.

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 6>His I think that, you know, you watch him, he

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 6>tends to slide off opponents in the running.

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Game for you know, for the way that he blocks.

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of what I think about John.

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 6>I like the fact that he could play all three

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 6>spots that position flex hest. He's got some, but like

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 6>I said, there's a little bit of that where the technique.

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Stuff is going to be a little bit of an

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 2>issue for him.

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 8>It's so crazy that you mentioned that he tested better

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 8>than any guard at the combine, and I.

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 4>Feel like.

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:39.800
<v Speaker 8>He's he showed like speed and athleticism and all this stuff,

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:43.000
<v Speaker 8>but like you said, like it isn't something that just translates.

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 8>It translates, but it doesn't because you need more power.

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 4>And I don't think that he plays I know that's

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 4>your thing.

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 8>I don't think he plays with as much power as City,

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 8>so especially in the run game now, I think his

0:43:53.760 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 8>past past game sets are far better. And I feel

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:00.479
<v Speaker 8>like in a zone scheme he might work, but his.

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 4>Hands are low.

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, his hands aren't good.

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.359
<v Speaker 8>His hands are low a lot, and that's why he's

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:07.200
<v Speaker 8>late with his punch a lot of the time.

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 4>And I didn't like that. I didn't like that at all.

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 8>So yeah, those are like like we were talking about,

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.760
<v Speaker 8>those are two dudes. Though that I was like, maybe

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:18.879
<v Speaker 8>with some coaching and some you know some, I feel

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:19.439
<v Speaker 8>like there's more.

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 4>There's more upside with City.

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 2>I've got I've got both of them in the fifth.

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 6>I have gains over the top of so okay, you think,

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 6>so okay, and I got me in the fifth and

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:32.719
<v Speaker 6>but they both fall, they're both likely fall. Well, they'll

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:35.200
<v Speaker 6>be in the one fifty range for me when I'm

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 6>starting to stack them.

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't have them yet. In my in my one

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:39.760
<v Speaker 2>fifty mixed process.

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:42.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but the thing about because say I'm worried about

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 6>having to add a full back or some sure bs

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:45.399
<v Speaker 6>like that.

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 2>But uh, you know, let's go all that.

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.320
<v Speaker 6>You know, now you get to a certain point you're like, Okay,

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to look at a player that's going

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 6>to be.

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 2>In the top one fifty. I just don't feel like that.

0:44:57.560 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 6>I just don't feel like So I've got to a

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 6>point where got him stack but fifth round games, sal

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:04.239
<v Speaker 6>that's on of how it got him right there.

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've got another guy you're speaking of upside but

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 3>also still kind of a bit of a risky pick

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:13.760
<v Speaker 3>just because of some of his past Zach Evans running

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:15.839
<v Speaker 3>back from Ole Miss. And I know Zach knows this

0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:17.759
<v Speaker 3>guy because well, you and I used to cover him

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 3>in the studio back when he was playing high school

0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 3>ball in Texas. But he went to Ole Miss, started

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.400
<v Speaker 3>at CCU, was there for a couple of seasons, transferred

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.080
<v Speaker 3>to ole Miss, thinking that was his best shot to

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.760
<v Speaker 3>get to the NFL. Tell me more about Zach Evans

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:31.200
<v Speaker 3>and what he brings to the football field.

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 5>It's kind of mean, stiff, army hits the whole. I

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 5>mean with with vengeance. There's not a lot of wasted

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 5>motion with him. He doesn't dance around. He's got impressive

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 5>acceleration in the open field. I think he fits best

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 5>in an outside zone scheme. I think he'd work really

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 5>well in San Francisco or in Miami. You know that

0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 5>that kind of system where we've seen like a Raheem

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 5>Mostert or North Texas Owe Jeff Wilson have success. He's

0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 5>a good safety net out of the backfield. You don't

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:58.279
<v Speaker 5>see a lot of route combination from him like you

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 5>would a Kenny McIntosh Georgia, but he's safe. You can

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.800
<v Speaker 5>check it down to him in the in the flats.

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 5>You rarely see him get knocked backwards. He plays behind

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 5>his pads. He lowers his shoulder to finish runs, much

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 5>like like we've seen here with Ezekiel Elliott over his career.

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes would like to see him make the first guy

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:20.360
<v Speaker 5>miss more, but he's overall a very solid runner runner.

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 5>He did have a fumble when I watched him against

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 5>Troy where he breaks a tackle in the backfield and

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 5>another defender knocks the ball out from the backside. So

0:46:28.040 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 5>he might need to improve you know, the possession and

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 5>ball security a little bit.

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 2>But I mean Zach Evans is a heck of a player.

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:36.399
<v Speaker 5>You see the talent, but you do need to make

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.760
<v Speaker 5>sure he checks off all the background and personality traits

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 5>that you want, because that's been something that's carried on.

0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 5>He's played three different teams in college and that was

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 5>an issue for him. He got benched in the state

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 5>championship game when he was in high school.

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 6>This guy's player one oh one on my board, and

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 6>I'll say this about him. He is not afraid to

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 6>lower that shoulder and deliver a below. He was always

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 6>plowing for extra yards. He's got some run where he

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.600
<v Speaker 6>was able to grab the edge, but I think he's

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 6>kind of a little bit more of an inside runner

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 6>and he locates the hole, makes the cut. He runs

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 6>with some power. He could be a hard guy to

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.839
<v Speaker 6>bring down. I felt like he had a little bit

0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 6>more power than he did speed. You saw some long runs,

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 6>but not game breaking type runs. I just don't think

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 6>he has that type of speed. But the balance was

0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:24.840
<v Speaker 6>really good. There's a snap or two where he was

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 6>able to jump over a defender. He had some carries

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 6>where he breaks tackles in the open field. I did

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:30.960
<v Speaker 6>not see.

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I was maybe the games.

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:35.360
<v Speaker 6>I was looking at Auburn, Arkansas, Kentucky catching the football

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.120
<v Speaker 6>and stuff like that. You guys would have to help

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 6>me on that one, but that I noticed. But when

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 6>the ball did come his way, he was able to

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:43.240
<v Speaker 6>make the catches.

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 2>So you know, he's impressive with the bulk and the power.

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 2>He's a type of back that just kind of wears

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 2>you down with the way that he runs. He absolutely does.

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 2>He gets better as the game goes on.

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I said he was decisive.

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:57.719
<v Speaker 8>Again, don't know if those are the right worst to use,

0:47:57.719 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 8>but he's a decisive, decisive runner.

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 4>He sees it. He's gonna go. He's gonna take some risks,

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:03.280
<v Speaker 4>he's gonna take some chances.

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 8>He's gonna try to make he's he's and like you said,

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 8>he's not gonna try to make a lot of guys miss.

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 4>He's decisive. He's like, no, this is it for me.

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to I'm running the exactly absolutely. And one

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 4>thing that I also to how did y'a feel about

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 4>him in past?

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 5>Bro when he wants to, I think you can do it.

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 5>There's just times. I think he makes some business.

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:26.880
<v Speaker 2>That's a great way to put it.

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:29.760
<v Speaker 8>Yeah's starting to make now Like it's it's super cliche,

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 8>but I'm starting to make a bigger deal out of

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:35.320
<v Speaker 8>pass pro in this league now with back because even

0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 8>more than actually I want to say two three years ago,

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:40.799
<v Speaker 8>Like it matters because of how much the balls being

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 8>passed around.

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Like you're well for your ability to stay on the

0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:45.279
<v Speaker 2>field too. Yeah, you're looking for a three down back.

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, with the offensive line play, you need a guy

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 8>that's gonna And that's one of the things that I

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 8>kind of was like a ship strip. And then, like

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 8>you said, the off the field stuff is things that

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 8>you want to check out on. But he was a

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:59.919
<v Speaker 8>thirty visit if he was a guy that reportedly rather

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:03.120
<v Speaker 8>a thirty visit, So maybe the Cowboys are looking at

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 8>maybe taking a chance on the dude or just seeing

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<v Speaker 8>what he got because he is that powerful dip your shoulder,

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<v Speaker 3>And you do your background work and you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>see what type of guy he is, bring him in,

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<v Speaker 3>have him one on one, and kind of have do

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<v Speaker 3>your due diligence, and that's what that scouting department across

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<v Speaker 3>the way has been very good at over the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years. All Right, when we come back, it's

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<v Speaker 3>and we've got Chris Beam in the back who has

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<v Speaker 3>done an absolutely fantastic job with.

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<v Speaker 2>His team of let's say b roll scouts. How about

0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:14.279
<v Speaker 2>we put it that way, They're b roll Scouts, The

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<v Speaker 2>Beam Roll, the Beam Roll Beam. I like that, the

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<v Speaker 2>Beam Roll.

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<v Speaker 3>He's put together hundreds and I mean hundreds of highlight

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<v Speaker 3>tapes over the last couple of weeks. So over these

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<v Speaker 3>last couple of minutes of the show, we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>him choose to tell me more about these specific players.

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<v Speaker 3>And I believe, Beamer, You're gonna start with one that

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<v Speaker 3>has a connection inside the building.

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<v Speaker 13>Right I am, because I'm gonna start with duce Vaughan

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<v Speaker 13>And here's his burell, his bureau.

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<v Speaker 2>Running back from Kansas State. Gosh, he's amazing. You like,

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<v Speaker 2>you like, what what do you do with duce Von?

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, so small, you're forty times you're in a four

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<v Speaker 13>or five seven or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, but it seems like he makes plays all over

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<v Speaker 2>the field. Oh he does. What do you do with

0:52:56.800 --> 0:52:58.839
<v Speaker 2>duce Von? See here's the issue with Deuce.

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<v Speaker 5>We were just talking about the pass blocking, right, Duz

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 5>Fawn's not gonna give you that. But Duce Vaughn is

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<v Speaker 5>just a playmaker. I mean he can you talk about

0:53:08.440 --> 0:53:10.239
<v Speaker 5>a guy who can make plays. He would have been

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<v Speaker 5>your prototypical I think third down back and several years

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<v Speaker 5>ago where you were talking about a guy who can

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<v Speaker 5>make plays out of the backfield.

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<v Speaker 2>He can catch it. I mean, he's capable of running.

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<v Speaker 5>Routes from the slot. You see him do that at

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<v Speaker 5>Kansas at Kansas State. He's elusive. He carried a massive

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<v Speaker 5>workload in college. So despite the size, to me, durability

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<v Speaker 5>is not a question. But he's just you blink and

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:38.799
<v Speaker 5>oh my gosh, I mean his start stop quickness just

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:41.879
<v Speaker 5>jumps off the charts, low center of gravity obviously because

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:44.479
<v Speaker 5>he's smaller, so he's difficult to see. I think there's

0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 5>sometimes maybe he'll try and break a run outside, or

0:53:48.160 --> 0:53:50.839
<v Speaker 5>he'll take angles where you're thinking, no, no, just cut

0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 5>that up there instead, and he leaves some yards on

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:56.480
<v Speaker 5>the field. But you watch Duzvaughan, he might be one

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:59.160
<v Speaker 5>of the most exciting players to study in the entire

0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:01.759
<v Speaker 5>draft clots. It's the size that's gonna knock him. And

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<v Speaker 5>then you mentioned Aesha the pass blocking ability. I don't

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 5>think he's got that.

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<v Speaker 8>The only thing that's to me that would knock him

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:10.480
<v Speaker 8>is the size. Yeah, like right, I mean when you

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<v Speaker 8>look at the player and with the player is capable

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:16.080
<v Speaker 8>of the receiving, capability to speed the burst. He's a

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.319
<v Speaker 8>former soccer player, so he's a guy that has a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of durability and awareness and a vision awareness intelligence,

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:24.960
<v Speaker 8>and he's an intelligent guy and even to a point

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<v Speaker 8>to where he avoids similar to to Zeke, how Zeke

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<v Speaker 8>didn't like, he avoids a lot of the low hits

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<v Speaker 8>that people try to take on him because he's just

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<v Speaker 8>aware of where he is on the field.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I that to me, the only thing that's gonna.

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<v Speaker 8>Limit limit him, or people will be nervous about is

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:42.880
<v Speaker 8>his size and the durability because of the size or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, I think you can basically make great

0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 6>points about him as a player. I think you have

0:54:47.719 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 6>to have a plan for if you draft him. You

0:54:50.800 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 6>have to have a plan of when you watch on tape,

0:54:53.520 --> 0:54:56.280
<v Speaker 6>the offensive coordinators and the running back coaches and those guys,

0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:58.840
<v Speaker 6>they're like, Listen, he could fit into this package.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could watch Kansas State tape and figure

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<v Speaker 2>out ways to use him. Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And I love his toughness. I love how elusive he is.

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:10.400
<v Speaker 6>I think there's an advantage to him being short. Actually,

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:13.720
<v Speaker 6>when you do talk about him running behind bigger NFL

0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:16.359
<v Speaker 6>offensive line, see and it's hard to see, and all

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:18.359
<v Speaker 6>of a sudden he squirts out the other side. It's

0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:21.520
<v Speaker 6>already a six yard game. The guy catches the ball. Well,

0:55:21.760 --> 0:55:24.759
<v Speaker 6>he's super tough, comes from a football family, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, there's so many positive things. Listen, Let's not

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<v Speaker 6>act like he's not the only short productive player in

0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 6>this draft. No, all we've done is watch short productive players.

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<v Speaker 6>Flowers Dell, you know this guy right here. I mean

0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:42.000
<v Speaker 6>that's that's what you have to do. You have to

0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:44.120
<v Speaker 6>have a vision and an idea for what you want

0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:46.359
<v Speaker 6>to do with this kid. And he plays big time

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<v Speaker 6>football and has been productive doing it.

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<v Speaker 5>And we talked about yesterday the returning ability. Yeah, dou Sponzie,

0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:54.359
<v Speaker 5>I that can give you that if you want him

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<v Speaker 5>to be a kick and a punt returner. I believe

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:57.440
<v Speaker 5>he could be very successful with that.

0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:02.160
<v Speaker 8>And also you mentioned, I mean super important for running back.

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 8>His ball security is top nine impressing, it's top notch.

0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:08.600
<v Speaker 8>He's talked about how much he how much work he's

0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:11.160
<v Speaker 8>put into it, and just to add that to the

0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:12.880
<v Speaker 8>trifecta of the things he does.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Yeah, he's in the zero percentile in height and

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 3>arm length, he's in the one percentile in weight, and

0:56:21.000 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 3>he's in the thirty and thirty two percentile in bench

0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:26.239
<v Speaker 3>press and broad jumps, and I draft the heck out

0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:26.480
<v Speaker 3>of him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you look at the tape, and the tape

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:29.200
<v Speaker 2>is magnificent.

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<v Speaker 6>Figured out. These coaches make millions of dollars. You know,

0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:35.640
<v Speaker 6>don't tell me the kid can't play. I watched him

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 6>play at Kansas State and he could play, and so

0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:40.719
<v Speaker 6>you know, kind of figured out. But then again, you know,

0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:43.840
<v Speaker 6>Bill Parcells is in my ear going you draft an exception.

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 6>You have a team full of exceptions. I think this

0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:47.319
<v Speaker 6>is a good exception to have.

0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:48.040
<v Speaker 2>There you go.

0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 6>I would I would absolutely like to have this exception

0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:50.960
<v Speaker 6>two more points.

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 3>And this backs up the durability that you guys are

0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:55.440
<v Speaker 3>talking about, and Zach brought it up initially two hundred

0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 3>and thirty five carries in twenty one. He followed that

0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:01.280
<v Speaker 3>up with two hundred and ninety three carries in twenty

0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 3>twenty two. That's nearly three hundred carries in a collegiate

0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:05.960
<v Speaker 3>football season.

0:57:06.239 --> 0:57:07.239
<v Speaker 2>That's unbelievable.

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 3>How much of a durable running back he is and

0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:12.200
<v Speaker 3>how much they utilized him at Kansas State led the

0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 3>Big Twelve in all purpose yards in twenty one, and

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 3>he led the FBS in all purpose yards in twenty

0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:17.560
<v Speaker 3>twenty two.

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 2>He can play go get you a guy. What's next

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:21.000
<v Speaker 2>on our list? Beamer?

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:24.320
<v Speaker 13>My second player is a Division Division two Player of

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:26.160
<v Speaker 13>the Year, which is Caleb Murphy.

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:32.240
<v Speaker 6>Oh, this is uh fairst State, right, Fairest State, first.

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:33.560
<v Speaker 2>State, Farris State.

0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay, you're going about bulldogs, right, Yeah, You're about

0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 6>to see some pretty crazy.

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh, this guy was.

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 6>He set a record for sacks in that division. And

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 6>what's interesting about this cat. He was two hundred and

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:50.040
<v Speaker 6>fifty four pounds at the combine and on his pro

0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 6>day he weighed two hundred and sixty three pounds, is

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.720
<v Speaker 6>what he did. And you could see right there when

0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:58.280
<v Speaker 6>you're watching, if you're able to the highlights of him,

0:57:58.320 --> 0:58:00.880
<v Speaker 6>he has the ability to get around blockers and get

0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:03.680
<v Speaker 6>around him quickly and kind of leaves them in their dust.

0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 6>In the way he plays. He's a really really good

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 6>finisher around the ball. You know, you could see the

0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:11.480
<v Speaker 6>ability to chase there's the dip and then now get

0:58:11.520 --> 0:58:15.360
<v Speaker 6>to the quarterback balls on the ground. You know, if

0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 6>he has a little bit of a weakness, they kind

0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:20.680
<v Speaker 6>of talk about his playing strength is what they do.

0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:23.400
<v Speaker 2>So to me, I would be a little bit mindful

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 2>about that.

0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:25.680
<v Speaker 6>You know, let's see if he's going to able to

0:58:25.720 --> 0:58:27.560
<v Speaker 6>get around some of these NFL.

0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 2>We'll be all watching preseason games.

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:30.880
<v Speaker 6>It'll be in the fourth quarter and all of a sudden,

0:58:30.920 --> 0:58:33.400
<v Speaker 6>this kid will come flying because the tackles are not

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:35.600
<v Speaker 6>very good and maybe that's where he has an effect.

0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:37.440
<v Speaker 6>But I kind of feel like the fact that he

0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:40.000
<v Speaker 6>went from two fifty four to two sixty three. He

0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:42.120
<v Speaker 6>feels like he needs to get a little bit bigger

0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:45.120
<v Speaker 6>for the position, but the numbers are surely there for him.

0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:48.400
<v Speaker 3>So what do they always say about these Division two

0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Division three prospects?

0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:52.360
<v Speaker 2>They better look like a man amongst boys. Well, they

0:58:52.400 --> 0:58:55.120
<v Speaker 2>better walk on water, something I always did. That's another

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 2>one too.

0:58:55.680 --> 0:58:57.439
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And then you know, but this guy, like I said,

0:58:57.480 --> 0:58:59.840
<v Speaker 6>he's been to a couple of different schools, Grand Valley

0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:02.240
<v Speaker 6>Date and now with Fair State, and you know he

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:04.440
<v Speaker 6>dealt with the COVID thing and the pandemic can when

0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:06.840
<v Speaker 6>they played that in that division of football, they just

0:59:06.880 --> 0:59:08.160
<v Speaker 6>totally canceled the season.

0:59:08.240 --> 0:59:10.280
<v Speaker 2>So he lost that right there. But you know, you

0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:11.120
<v Speaker 2>could see right here.

0:59:11.200 --> 0:59:13.280
<v Speaker 6>I mean he he is a very very productive player,

0:59:13.280 --> 0:59:15.960
<v Speaker 6>There's no question about that. You know, he's again it's

0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:18.320
<v Speaker 6>going to be about figuring out, you know, developing some

0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:21.200
<v Speaker 6>pass rush moves and and finding a way to use

0:59:21.280 --> 0:59:23.720
<v Speaker 6>his link and that quickness that he has to be

0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:25.520
<v Speaker 6>able to finish like he did at this level.

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<v Speaker 3>He was able to finish those former accountants off pretty yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>significantly against the Colorado School of.

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<v Speaker 8>Mines out there to talk about him that bad because

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<v Speaker 8>I think he played against Cody Milkol a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll talk about in the draft.

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<v Speaker 5>Six fumble recoveries last year and then he had four

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<v Speaker 5>recoveries as a junior.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he is always around the football. Keep an

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<v Speaker 2>eye on Caleb Murphy. There's a name that you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think you would hear in the draft process. How about

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<v Speaker 2>that one more Beamer? We got time or one more

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<v Speaker 2>before you? I think you will actually kick us off

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<v Speaker 2>the air. Oh we got all day this? Oh let's go,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, we got a couple more.

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<v Speaker 6>Wait a minute, you got you got guys that have

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<v Speaker 6>to do a radio showing afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm gonta give you.

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<v Speaker 13>The only reason I'm going to do this guy is

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<v Speaker 13>because every time he catches a testdown, he always tells

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<v Speaker 13>the dB that he's too small. So this is gonna

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<v Speaker 13>be Grant Dubas from Charlotte Wide Receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Grant Dubo's from Charlotte All Conference USA. Couple different times,

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<v Speaker 3>I like what he brings to the table. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to pull up my notes on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold up, I'm looking again. I've got I've got computer

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<v Speaker 2>slowness of myself. He's a boy.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to see him actually in person against North

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<v Speaker 5>Texas a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>He makes some plays down the field. He kind of feasted.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, Jalen Darden was an absolute star in the game

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<v Speaker 5>as well. But I mean, he's a guy that just

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<v Speaker 5>makes a ton of plays down the.

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<v Speaker 2>Field, testdown, catch with watch, he just throws up little boy.

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<v Speaker 6>It minds me a little bit of what Jalen Tolbert

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<v Speaker 6>did with at South Alabama last year. He was always

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<v Speaker 6>kind of talking about, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's another one. Watched this.

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<v Speaker 13>He's gonna look at this guy and go, yeah, buddy, yeah,

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<v Speaker 13>Well he's gonna celebrate too on you.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, like you say when you watch the

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<v Speaker 6>highlights of him playing here, the guy has got he's

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<v Speaker 6>got the size.

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<v Speaker 2>He clearly has the size.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, and and that's something that you know

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<v Speaker 6>in this draft we talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>How many bring it up again, how many small.

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<v Speaker 6>Wide receivers the tall wide receivers we talk We don't

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<v Speaker 6>talk nearly enough about uh mingos and guys like that.

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<v Speaker 6>A guy at Tennessee uh that plays opposite Chillman. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>we're not talking about guys that have that that size

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<v Speaker 6>and that length and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Great job right there at justin to a ball thrown

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<v Speaker 2>over his head.

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<v Speaker 5>He always catches it and you're too small.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yellow crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what jumped off the page. But that's but that.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're looking for, like you say, this is where

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<v Speaker 6>you start to find where are these where are the guys?

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<v Speaker 6>If you're one of those teams, it's looking for a

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<v Speaker 6>receiver with length and productivity and the ability to adjust.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this is the type of guy.

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<v Speaker 6>That that you know, people will go and work on

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<v Speaker 6>and say, okay, we'll get you know, why are we

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<v Speaker 6>looking at all these short guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Well here, okay, well let me give you a tall guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's here's a guy that actually has some really some

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<v Speaker 6>good production for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's a topic of conversation next week because we

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<v Speaker 3>have talked about some of these smaller receivers and how

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<v Speaker 3>much it is a change in philosophy. What about the

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<v Speaker 3>guys we're not talking about that or maybe not as

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<v Speaker 3>technically sound as some of these smaller white outs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but they are the size of advances to have the

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<v Speaker 3>size advantage to their to their game.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just crazy, how many how much things have changed.

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<v Speaker 8>It's true, I felt like at one point in time,

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<v Speaker 8>if you didn't have a fifty to fifty ball guy

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<v Speaker 8>on your in your receiving core, you were you were wrong, right, And.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean maybe that's still the case. But it's just

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<v Speaker 4>it's just crazy to think that this is not what

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<v Speaker 4>you're looking.

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<v Speaker 2>For, the true possession type of receiver.

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<v Speaker 8>Possession receiver fifty to fifty, you know, adjust to the

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<v Speaker 8>ball like that's you want that. But you may have

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<v Speaker 8>one of those guys in your receiving corps were in

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<v Speaker 8>that multiple.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you need speed, got to have to get that speed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that team speed is huge. We've seen that as

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<v Speaker 3>an emphasis lately. All Right, that is it for us

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<v Speaker 3>today on the Draft show.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to look at fullbacks tonight. I got to

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<v Speaker 2>look at some fullbacks.

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<v Speaker 3>Hunter lib Key out of North Dakota State, maybe uh

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb Murphy a rusher from Farris State as well. But

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<v Speaker 3>we've got a couple to keep an eye on. Got

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<v Speaker 3>through fourteen prospects today. Everybody that's pretty good. Let's go

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<v Speaker 3>and deep dies on all of them too. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris in the middle of that fullback segment told us

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<v Speaker 3>the last time the Cowboys drafted a fullback Sean Chappis

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<v Speaker 3>twenty eleven, seventh round.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, George Japhis, that was the last time. Some thin

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<v Speaker 2>too long ago. I mean that's twelve years ago now,

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<v Speaker 2>but still not too bad. Sean Chappis, Sean Chappish.

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<v Speaker 6>There you go, probably teaching pee somewhere, Bryant.

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<v Speaker 3>We have three more ship pew, three more shows until drafted.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Three shows and we've got some surprises in

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<v Speaker 2>every one of the shows. We're gonna have some fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh these next three shows.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be a lot of fun the next couple weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>But we are closing in two weeks away today from

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL fail Draft for Chris Beam and his beamroll

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<v Speaker 3>for Brian brought us at Weldschuck, I Usha Morrison, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle Yoma saying so long. We'll see you next week

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