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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 2: Tyler and now your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Today is Thursday, April thirteenth, twenty twenty three. We are

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Speaker 3: two weeks out, fourteen days exactly from the NFL Combine

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Speaker 3: in Kansas City. As the draft is woolen along.

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Speaker 4: My I literally twitched a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Why why was that the sound? We should be excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm pumped. We should be pumped for this.

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Speaker 2: It's Miller time. Beemer. I don't believe you, Honestly, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't believe that you're not ready, because every time we

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Speaker 3: talk about a specific player, we have video coverage of

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Speaker 3: him up on the board.

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Speaker 2: Every every single thing trying back here, we're trying well,

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Speaker 2: you do a great job. And because of that, we're

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Speaker 2: actually gonna reward Beamer.

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Speaker 3: In the last segment, We're gonna let him lead to

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Speaker 3: tell me more with his with some of the prospects

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Speaker 3: that he's had. We're gonna have a Beamer's choice, tell

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Speaker 3: me more. Oh no, in the back. So that'll be

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Speaker 3: our third segment today, Leap.

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Speaker 5: That's got me terrified, Yeah, because I want to do

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Speaker 5: a stump the Beam. You know, can we stump him

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Speaker 5: if he doesn't have during during our weekend draft coverage?

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Speaker 2: Does he not have tape on these guys?

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Speaker 5: He's probably gonna ask us players that he's putting in

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Speaker 5: like number three hundred.

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Speaker 2: We're like, I haven't seen this guy. Thanks a lot, Beam.

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Speaker 2: Then that's when we were sort of the beast. I

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Speaker 2: love you. There you go. I like it. How's everybody

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Speaker 2: doing doing well? Who'd you watch last night? Brian? Did

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Speaker 2: you watch anybody?

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Speaker 6: Let's see who I did watch last night, because there

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Speaker 6: were several guys that I watched last night and I

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Speaker 6: know it did Eric Smith. The other day, I finally

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Speaker 6: got around to my the Missouri uh, the Missouri defensive

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Speaker 6: end McGuire. We talked about him at all, Isaiah McGuire.

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Speaker 6: Isaiah McGuire, so yeah, let me let me get.

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Speaker 2: He watched him last night as well, sir. He's a

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Speaker 2: bit of a tweeener, isn't he? He is?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 6: To me, I think he could play defensive end. I

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Speaker 6: think that he's one of those guys that when you

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Speaker 6: when you watch him play, he's six y four, he's

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Speaker 6: to sixty eight.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that's how I would.

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Speaker 6: Say he's He definitely has that NFL ready frame and

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Speaker 6: he's thick, he's got length. Uh, he could his initial

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Speaker 6: I know Aish is really big on this. When you

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Speaker 6: start talking about defensive lineman, that hand, the shock that

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 6: He is all about getting up the field. That is

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Speaker 6: what he absolutely really wants to do. He's not really

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Speaker 6: a guy that has I don't think a lot of

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Speaker 6: really nifty type pass rush moves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's more of a bull rush kind of a guy.

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Speaker 6: He's going to take the tackle, he's going to try

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Speaker 6: He's got to be a little careful in the run

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Speaker 6: of gaps a little bit. With the way he plays

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Speaker 6: for six four two sixty eight, you would think he'd

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Speaker 6: But the majority of host rushes, like I say, are

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Speaker 6: but he does. He wants to get up the field.

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Speaker 6: He wants to chase the ball. He could finish when

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Speaker 6: he gets in position, and the linked I think is super,

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Speaker 6: super impressive, and that's why I think that the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: are looking at This was a late add to me

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Speaker 6: talking to some scout guys around the league and they're like,

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Speaker 6: what do you think of the maguire kid from Missouri?

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Speaker 2: And it was like.

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Speaker 6: Aisha when she takes her little notes and writes guys down.

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Speaker 6: I did the same thing on this guy, and this

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Speaker 2: I love everything you said at the length to me.

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Speaker 5: When he uses his arms and he's able to extend

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Speaker 5: But Brian's absolutely right in terms of the gap integrity.

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Speaker 5: He can get caught a little bit upfield because to

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Speaker 2: But there is a lot to like high upside player.

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Speaker 5: I think he's got the prototypical size and athleticism for

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Speaker 5: the position. I'm a fan of HEAs I mean in

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Speaker 5: the fourth round range. If you don't end up taking

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of upside with him.

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Speaker 6: See that's the guy too again, excuse me, sure real quick,

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Speaker 2: But you're watching some seventh round guy that's probably not

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Speaker 2: going to get picked. You know, that's how you have

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Speaker 2: to use your time.

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Speaker 6: And you know, the scouting world, the media scouts sometimes

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Speaker 2: And luckily that you know, when I was fortunate enough

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Speaker 2: you got to watch the scout. Yeah, you gotta go wch.

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Speaker 5: I was glad you recommended him because he was a

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Speaker 5: fun watch, especially against Brodery Jones and that game against

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Speaker 5: Rorty about that show and they had a good battle.

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Speaker 8: I didn't have a whole bunch of implanty y'all said

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Speaker 4: But I was going to say, when.

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Speaker 8: You talk about his length and his arms, I wrote

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Speaker 8: down has to find consistent leverage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just because, like you.

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Speaker 8: Guys mentioned, sometimes he is so trying to get upfield

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Speaker 4: It's just that the leverage thing. Sometimes. I like how

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Speaker 8: That's one of my favorite things about him, is how

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Speaker 4: He tossed the guy a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with those arms.

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Speaker 5: It's when he plays with his he uses his reach

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Speaker 5: He's the USC guard who had that unfortunate towards a right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where would you guys pick him? Because he's he's

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Speaker 2: a heck of a football player, man.

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Speaker 4: I would just pick him.

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Speaker 2: We're at huh, what do you mean just whenever?

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Speaker 4: Noah, I don't know about I wouldn't be afraid for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but with.

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Speaker 8: This train of staff that they have here and stuff,

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Speaker 2: This is where Brian would have gotten picked.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is but the fourth round was always for

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Speaker 6: but we need to give this guy his due, you know.

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Speaker 2: Where would you know that that?

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Speaker 6: Now that you know, you bring up an interesting point

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Speaker 6: because and I used to work criminals, so it sounds

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Speaker 6: this is where a guy like Lyle Collins comes into play. Okay, so,

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Speaker 6: and Lyle Collins's first round ability coming out of LSU,

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Speaker 2: Let's see. You know, we're not you know, no harm,

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Speaker 2: no foul here.

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Speaker 6: So but there was a time, like I said, where

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Speaker 6: That worth round was always the medical and always that

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Speaker 3: And where by no means calling Andrew voorh he's a

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Speaker 3: criminal and compares to criminals.

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Speaker 2: In the medicals.

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Speaker 6: I'm just I'm sorry that I'm just being I'm being

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Speaker 6: really honest about how scouting works. Sure, and you know,

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Speaker 6: and these teams say that they don't you know, it's

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Speaker 6: in those war rooms you say things. I live this,

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Speaker 6: So I'm just giving you an idea. Yeah, am I

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Speaker 6: calling these guys criminals? No, they're criminal things that they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of those guys. Man.

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Speaker 5: I think for the Cowboys, he's interesting to consider because

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Speaker 5: you look at the guard position, like maybe he doesn't

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Speaker 5: play for you this year, so is he going to

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Speaker 5: come in and help right away? But the future of

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Speaker 5: Zach Martin? How many more years is you going to play?

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Speaker 5: Do you want to be able to take a guy

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Speaker 5: who might be a Day two pick and most raps

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Speaker 5: could be a second rounder and you're able to get

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Speaker 5: him early day three because of the injury and he

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Speaker 5: falls because to me, the way that he's able to

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Speaker 5: He's always turning those legs driving blockers back. I think

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Speaker 5: he's run blocking's better than his past blocking. But he's

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Speaker 5: super technical. He's very consistent. You know exactly what you're getting.

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Speaker 5: And the ACL injuries I don't think scared teams as

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Speaker 8: I was about to say, if you the Cowboys you like, well,

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Speaker 8: I don't know what that's going like right now, but

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Speaker 8: I will say, whatever Terrence Steele is doing, hey Andrew,

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Speaker 7: Career was over.

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Speaker 4: To come back earlier.

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Speaker 8: What would what would his timeline, well, the normally normal

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Speaker 3: He he would be If so, he tore it at

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Speaker 6: This is this is this is a pick and stash

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Speaker 3: See, and I think with that I would be comfortable

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Speaker 2: Me a fifth round pick. And if that's the case.

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Speaker 3: It was a two time All American and he played

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Speaker 2: He was voted the best blocker in the PAC twelve. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean you can see it.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean he's he's.

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Speaker 6: Everything you really talk about in an offensive lineman. I mean,

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Speaker 2: He is. The thing that he might struggle with a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the way he play, and so you wonder if

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Speaker 6: And not that the Pac twelve plays bad football, They've

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. That's the thing that.

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Speaker 6: I only worry about him, But man, he is. This

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Speaker 6: guy is a blue collar, hard working guy. That I mean,

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Speaker 2: One thing that I need to go look at.

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Speaker 3: But about Vorhee specifically, because I watched his twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: The one thing I heard.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's something that we look into. Hey, maybe we

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Speaker 6: Okay, So I mean, so if you go back and

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Speaker 6: he's had a knee problem. I'm sure he's played through

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Speaker 6: I did so, So you know, you're talking about a

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Speaker 4: There's knees that's something to look at.

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Speaker 8: And then also too, just it sounds like the conversation

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Speaker 8: this year, first year, how old is he gonna be.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be twenty five and a half by the

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Speaker 4: NFL And I wonder if that matters to any of these.

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Speaker 6: That's that's a that's something that I remember because we

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Speaker 6: everybody's like, why would you take an older corner?

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Speaker 2: And then he played like eighteen years. He played till

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Speaker 2: he was forty. Yeah, played eighteen years or something. That

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Speaker 6: And I think what's going to happen is we're going

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Speaker 6: the damn draft is older too, because the guys that

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Speaker 2: So you're going to see some It was a corner, that's.

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Speaker 6: A it was a five year starter that I looked

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Speaker 3: But Entrey Braswell from a cornerback spot, was born in

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Speaker 6: I saying, the COVID seasons, it'll catch back up to

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Speaker 2: You know, they no longer have the option.

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Speaker 6: But we're going to get through that cycle of those

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have some five and six year guys playing.

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Speaker 3: You also add in the new element of the nil

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Speaker 3: have to leave as juniors, they don't have to leave

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Speaker 2: Aisha, Let's let's hear about somebody else that you watch.

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Speaker 2: I want to try.

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Speaker 3: My goal today is just to talk prospects. I just

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Speaker 3: I've got a ton of Twitter on the twenty that

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Speaker 3: beamer in that third seven as well. So who did

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, last night I watched j Brown from Penn State. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 8: I hadn't gotten a chance to look at him. I

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 8: It's I think we don't consider it a need for

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Speaker 8: is somewhere that I think they could address. But I

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Speaker 8: there's an energy to him. He's so willing to help

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Speaker 8: the tenacity. I think that his sideline, the sideline can

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Speaker 8: he's disrespectful, disrespectful. I think that I misspoke because I

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Speaker 8: said that I liked JL Skinner. I felt like he

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Speaker 4: He's a tone setter in the same.

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Speaker 2: I think he had Skinner right well, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I just I feel like with this guy, just

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Speaker 8: but I didn't know if it's coveragability fantastic. I think

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Speaker 4: In my opinion.

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Speaker 4: And that's one thing I'm noticing about a lot.

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Speaker 2: He's got that dog in him.

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Speaker 4: I think his angles.

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Speaker 8: But that's normal, right, I think, no offense, But I

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Speaker 6: He completely nailed him seriously, and I mean, I mean

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that's his best suit.

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Speaker 6: I think I's right put him down the box, let

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Speaker 2: But man, he is. He is a He's one of those.

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Speaker 5: I was a fan of his, but I think we're

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Speaker 5: Like you could see he can get exposed when he's

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Speaker 5: Donovan Wilson deal got done, if you couldn't re sign donoh,

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Speaker 5: he's a guy that could be a replacement there. So

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Speaker 5: I agree with you one hundred percent on h Myisha.

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Speaker 2: So does the length worry you at all?

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Speaker 3: He's five foot eleven even two oh three, And I

444
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Speaker 3: mean we were talking about JL Skinner Skinner's a different

445
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Speaker 3: body type in terms of a safety because Jae Skinner's

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Speaker 3: six foot four, two ten.

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Speaker 2: So would you put Jay R.

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Speaker 3: Brown up there with the Skinners and the Johnson's and

449
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Speaker 3: the battles that we've kind of mentioned in the top

450
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Speaker 3: echelon of that safety class or is he in another tier?

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Speaker 2: Should kind of stack him?

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Speaker 8: I think it me personally, it depends on what you

453
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Speaker 8: need him to come in and do. I now, and

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Speaker 8: we understand that the big nickel is something that a

455
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Speaker 8: lot of teams are starting to revert to.

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Speaker 4: Just given the fact that I just feel.

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Speaker 8: Like, well, I will say the Cowboys luxury that they

458
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Speaker 8: have with their safeties is not the norm. I don't

459
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Speaker 8: feel like it's the norm to be like, oh let

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Speaker 8: me put three safeties out there. So for the Cowboys,

461
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Speaker 8: he would fit. Now, if you want your safety to

462
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Speaker 8: do more cover stuff, then maybe not. Maybe if it

463
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Speaker 8: just I think it depends on the system.

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Speaker 2: Personally, that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 5: I think he's he's in line with his Skinner for me,

466
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Speaker 5: like I might have him a little bit a little

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Speaker 5: bit better than Skinner in certain areas.

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Speaker 2: Certain areas, Yeah, for me, I.

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Speaker 5: Mean, because there's certain strength that I think Skinner has

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Speaker 5: over Brown, but there's certain where I would take Brown

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Speaker 5: over Skinner. I think overall, I might like Brown a

472
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Speaker 5: little bit more than I like Skinner. So I think

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Speaker 5: he's right in that same top, same conversation. That's a

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Speaker 5: propis top.

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Speaker 2: One hundred, Brown eighty two, Skinner eighty eight.

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Speaker 6: I think there's I think there's a difference between the

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Speaker 6: two players, and and I'm not a I have Skinner

478
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Speaker 6: Brown in the same round. Yeah, where, but I would

479
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Speaker 6: take Brown over Skinner on my board.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting because we've been very high on Skinner throughout

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Speaker 3: and that's not pushing Skinner, but that's that shows just

482
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Speaker 3: how high we are on Dyer Brown and what he

483
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Speaker 3: brings to the table. Yep, Zach, you got a player.

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Speaker 5: So I did watch the Miszoo kid, I watched war

485
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Speaker 5: He's how about Trade Dean, the safety from Florida. Okay,

486
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Speaker 5: I've seen split opinions on him. Okay, so Trade Dean's

487
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Speaker 5: not a guy. He's a Day three pick for me.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 5: Right, He's a guy that you know, maybe maybe they

490
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Speaker 5: end up a fifth, sixth rounder. I've got a six

491
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Speaker 5: round grade on him because I think this dude's going

492
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Speaker 5: to be a special teamer and then he's going to

493
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Speaker 5: have to end up competing to get on the field

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Speaker 5: as a starting safety. But he's got the football blood

495
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Speaker 5: lines his cousin Amad Black, which drafted by the Bucks

496
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Speaker 5: in the fifth round in twenty eleven. He's another guy

497
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Speaker 5: much like we were just talking about with jayuy Brown.

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Speaker 5: He's constantly around the football. He led the team in tackles.

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Speaker 5: He can cover tight ends. I think he moves really well,

500
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Speaker 5: looks fluid. He's got a smooth backpedal. I would like

501
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 5: to see him break on the football a little bit quicker.

502
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 5: He's going to be in position to make plays, but

503
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Speaker 5: he doesn't quite close fast enough when he gets play recognition.

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Speaker 2: He might be a tick late, but he's athletic.

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Speaker 5: He's tough, he's willing to hit, can step in and

506
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 5: cover the slot and carry receivers downfield. Now, he didn't

507
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 5: test great at the combine, but he looks a lot

508
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Speaker 5: more athletic and fast on tape. He will over pursue,

509
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Speaker 5: doesn't always finish, so I think special teams he's going

510
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Speaker 5: to be an immediate starter, but he's probably going to

511
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Speaker 5: be a backup safety. Initially, and then we'll see how

512
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Speaker 5: his career develops, if he can end up being a starter.

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Speaker 5: But I like Trayding. I mean he's a guy that

514
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Speaker 5: also you talk about a safety that's always around the football,

515
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Speaker 5: he goes and finds it.

516
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's one of those guys that, to me, you're right,

517
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 6: he doesn't play as fast, but when you look at

518
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Speaker 6: the testing numbers, he's got elite numbers. When it comes

519
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Speaker 6: to like three cone drills and stuff like that, he's

520
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Speaker 6: got twenty five on the bench.

521
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Speaker 2: So he's like verticals D he's got.

522
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Speaker 6: If you have quickness, if you have strength, he's got

523
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Speaker 6: recognition too. He just doesn't have really good time speed,

524
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Speaker 6: you know. So that's the thing about him. I think

525
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Speaker 6: the thing is, you know, the length, the toughness, the

526
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 6: movement part of him, I think is pretty good with him.

527
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Speaker 2: And if you're telling me that he's got the ability

528
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Speaker 2: to the redirection skills and stuff.

529
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Speaker 6: Like that because of the three cones and the shuttles

530
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Speaker 6: and stuff like that, that's something that a lot of

531
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Speaker 6: these NFL teams look at. They look at those shuttle numbers,

532
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Speaker 6: they look at the three If a guy doesn't run fast,

533
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Speaker 6: they're like well, okay, it's not like he's deficient in

534
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Speaker 6: all these areas. But I think you got him right

535
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Speaker 6: where you do in the sixth round. Yeah, I totally

536
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Speaker 6: agree with that.

537
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Speaker 2: Okay, did you get to see him at all?

538
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit. You're not a big fan, No,

539
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Speaker 4: I'm a fan. I just think he has normal safety stuff.

540
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Speaker 2: Like, well he did nothing to like, did wow you

541
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Speaker 2: in any way?

542
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Speaker 8: I mean no, I thought I thought he was decent.

543
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Speaker 8: What I'm saying is is like even his deficiencies to me, I.

544
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Speaker 4: Understand.

545
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Speaker 8: So I'm trying to find the balance and evaluate and like,

546
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Speaker 8: is this something he can get better at?

547
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Speaker 4: Is this is this? I asked myself the ceiling.

548
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Speaker 8: For a safety and most of his weaknesses besides like

549
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Speaker 8: the lack of burst that I see him have sometimes,

550
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Speaker 8: or lack of like aks I have to he has

551
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Speaker 8: sometimes are normal things to me.

552
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Speaker 4: And like I think we talked about angles, just he's

553
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Speaker 4: a tackling machine.

554
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Speaker 8: But you ain't gonna make every single one of them.

555
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Speaker 8: So yeah, no, I like his I like his range

556
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Speaker 8: for the most part. I like his range.

557
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Speaker 4: And he looks the part, like you said, he looks

558
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Speaker 4: the part. He looks like a guy. But I don't.

559
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Speaker 4: I didn't with the testing.

560
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Speaker 8: You think the testing is gonna help make him drop

561
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Speaker 8: because I feel like what I saw in film was

562
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Speaker 8: different than when I saw testing.

563
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Speaker 6: Right, I agree, the test, the testing, the testing is

564
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Speaker 6: going to give him a chance to be drafted, probably

565
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Speaker 6: earlier than we have him on our boards.

566
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Speaker 2: You know. But that's what I'm saying.

567
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Speaker 6: The thing if he was running a four to six,

568
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Speaker 6: and then it was also the testing numbers were poor,

569
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Speaker 6: then you you would probably say he's he's undraftable.

570
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Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, well, he ran a four s.

571
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Speaker 3: He went ran a four to seven five, which is

572
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Speaker 3: not good, not good safety.

573
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Speaker 5: But he looks to me he played faster when I

574
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Speaker 5: watched him, and they do have him play in covering

575
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Speaker 5: the slots, and I think that he can cover tight ends.

576
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Speaker 5: I think for safeties now, when you're looking at him,

577
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Speaker 5: especially this tight end classes we've talked about it, that's

578
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Speaker 5: super important. Like if you have a safety that you

579
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 5: don't think can come up and cover a tight end,

580
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 5: that's gonna be a liability in your defense.

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Speaker 4: How can I just that's not a fast time for seek.

582
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Speaker 2: No as bad, not at all terrible. All the rest

583
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Speaker 2: of his numbers and Brian brought this up. The rest

584
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Speaker 2: of his numbers are fine.

585
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Speaker 3: Vertical was thirty six and a half, which is the like,

586
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Speaker 3: that's above average score. You've got ten or ten zero

587
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Speaker 3: zero four broad jump. You've got a four to two

588
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Speaker 3: six and four broad is what?

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Speaker 2: That was? Decent? Yeah, that's sorry.

590
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Speaker 3: I was trying to think of how to say that

591
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Speaker 3: without having the scouting number on there. But the uh,

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Speaker 3: the numbers outside of the forty were okay. And then

593
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Speaker 3: he went to his prota and he ran a four

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Speaker 3: to six eight. Yeah, but his ten yard split was

595
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Speaker 3: worse than it was at the combine, so it didn't

596
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Speaker 3: really help out his case a whole lot.

597
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Speaker 2: But trading is.

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Speaker 3: The curious case of the safety position here. In twenty

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Speaker 2: Washington is offa's board done out of the out of

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Speaker 2: the question.

658
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Speaker 8: I was saying that that might also, that might be

659
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Speaker 8: a deterrent for some of these I hear you.

660
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: Some people some cod.

661
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: I wish there was I wish, But I also don't

662
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: wish there was a.

663
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 3: Mic that was hot in like in the break, just

664
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 3: to see the conversation. That's what I'm saying. I don't

665
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: wish because we would not have jobs. But if we

666
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Speaker 3: had job, I mean, if we were able to keep

667
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: our jobs and have that behind the scenes content, I

668
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: think it'd be great, be awesome. All right, stop stop talking,

669
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: shut your mouth, all right.

670
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: We had a ton of questions on some Twitter. So

671
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: that's okay. We'll get back after it next week. You're good,

672
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: You're good.

673
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: We had a ton of questions on Twitter on the

674
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: twenty with the fullback position, and there was one that

675
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: specifically has peaked the interest of Cowboys Nation. His name

676
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: is Hunter lip Key from North Dakota State. That's how

677
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: you say it, Hunter lip Key. But he's from the Bison,

678
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: North Dakota State. Decent player. Has anybody watched him? Anybody

679
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: think about how he could fit into this mold because

680
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy has been known to love himself some fullbacks,

681
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: and this is one that some people have as high

682
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: as the fourth or fifth round.

683
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: What I've heard about him, I have not watched him

684
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: myself yet.

685
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 5: I probably saw a little bit of him when I

686
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 5: was watching Cody malk Yeah, okay, but you.

687
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 6: Know what, to me, it's funny that you say this

688
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 6: about the fullback and we should probably may I know me,

689
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 6: I should probably do this.

690
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: I have not seen this guy play no.

691
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 6: Either, and and to me, it's it's one of those

692
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 6: things where here I am, I'm preaching about your missing

693
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 6: guys or whatever, and I don't know, I don't He

694
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 6: uses a fullback, right, he ain't picking a full back

695
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 6: in the fourth round.

696
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just don't see that. Are you drafting

697
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: a full back or is that a UFA guy? Well?

698
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 6: Right, it might be a thing where you're looking like

699
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 6: you say, you're looking at trades and stuff in the

700
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 6: sixth and seventh round. And I'm not trying to make

701
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 6: excuses why I didn't see the guy. But right now

702
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 6: I'm sitting there trying to figure out you know, twenty

703
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 6: two running backs probably need to figure out one full back.

704
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: I can probably need to do one or two kickers.

705
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 5: Too, Brian, you know this better than us. When's the

706
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 5: last time the Cowboys selected a full back?

707
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Speaker 2: Right? I don't know if they I don't think they

708
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 2: have to. Maybe like Robert Newhouse.

709
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're trying to cram and get I'm trying to

710
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 5: get to a minimum of two. You need to look

711
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 5: at the I'll look at Hunter Lipkey tonight.

712
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 2: You need Yeah. Absolutely.

713
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: Here's here's my scouting report that I had on him

714
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: for the draft magazine because I liked him at the

715
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: Combine or not the Combine.

716
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: Excuse me, the Senior Bowl and the Senior Bowl tape

717
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: that he was at the Senior Bowl and Mobile. He

718
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: was pretty impressive. I said.

719
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: He moves exceptionally well without the ball in his hands,

720
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: takes the right angles to make a block in space,

721
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: and he runs crisp routes and keeps his footwork contained

722
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: as he gets moving.

723
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: Can nearly play every position behind the line of scrimmage,

724
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: except for quarterback, of course.

725
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: But I said, when he has the ball in his hands,

726
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: there's just no yards after the catch factor whatsoever. He'll

727
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 3: labor into defenders instead of trying to avoid them. He

728
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: also gets pushed off the line of scrimmage by bigger

729
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: defenders when he tries to set a block whenever he

730
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: doesn't have momentum behind him.

731
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: So whenever he's just at the line of scrimmage, he's

732
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: coming up.

733
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 3: He needs a head of steam to really latch onto

734
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: a defender and let him ride backwards. Said not not

735
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: a tight end contingency. He runs the routes, He's able

736
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 3: to create a little bit of separation, but as soon

737
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: as he catches the ball like he's sitting duck, that's about.

738
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 8: It, which makes me sad because I actually did. I

739
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 8: glanced at him and I said, lateral quickness question mark

740
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 8: so that's kind of him.

741
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: It's not good, I know.

742
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 8: And then injury bug I said, hurt guy a couple.

743
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: I think he's had a surgery, he had.

744
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: A left shoulder, he missed the final five games of

745
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: this past year, and he had some sort of undisclosed

746
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: injury in twenty twenty through the COVID year.

747
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 8: And the only thing and it really like Kyle, you

748
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 8: made some good points about him, just kind of what

749
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 8: you saw from him. When you guys go back and see,

750
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 8: I'm sure you will talk about it. But when the

751
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 8: only reason I would take a fullback in like the

752
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 8: fourth or something, you looking at a use check. Everybody

753
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 8: and their mama, Yeah, wants to find the next Kyle

754
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 8: use check. And with the lack of lateral quickness, it

755
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 8: kind of takes that away. I don't think that use

756
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 8: check is just but the fact that you can use

757
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 8: him in so many different ways and an open space,

758
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 8: not just coming downhill all the time. It's not always

759
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 8: just him coming downhill. So I feel like that lessens

760
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 8: his his I don't like the s well, I don't

761
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 8: like the stock word, but his draft stock. With the

762
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 8: fact that there's not use check like qualities all the

763
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 8: way around it. If I'm gonna take if I'm gonna

764
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 8: draft a fullback in this game, he gotta have got to.

765
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: Have some of that.

766
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 5: I want a freak athlete that can be a mismatch

767
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 5: for you. They can get involved in the passing game.

768
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 5: He's also going to be a good blocker. I mean,

769
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 5: I I like the question because I think it's challenging.

770
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: It's challenging me to be more like, all right, let

771
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 5: me pay more attention to the fullback position, because that's

772
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 5: one that I think we kind of gloss over.

773
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: When I know I do. I do every time. I

774
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: do every time. I wasn't even having him on there.

775
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 6: Now I do it every time because to me, like

776
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 6: I said, you get affected by there's other ways to.

777
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: Get around not I'm sure.

778
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 6: If somebody said, hey, you've seen this kid from North

779
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 6: Dakota State at the fullback, that's you know, like, oh

780
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 6: no I haven't. Oh well you need to watch him

781
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 6: that kind of thing. There you go, you know, and

782
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 6: I I do. I mean I feel like that somebody

783
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 6: could take it. I will say this, if he has

784
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 6: a history of shoulder problems and he's a fullback, you're out.

785
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 6: You're not going to be not going to be considered

786
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 6: very high because that to me, I mean, that's that's

787
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 6: your whole that's your livelihood.

788
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: You were going to be a battering ram at the

789
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: point of attack. And if you're dealing with shoulder and.

790
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 6: Neck issues as a fullback, that's not gonna get you

791
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 6: on many, many, many drafts.

792
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 5: I think some of the other fullbacks that we we'd

793
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 5: look at, Javon Williams junior Southern Illinois is a senior

794
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 5: Ioways got a kid, Monte Pottobomb that could be under consideration.

795
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 5: But again, I don't know if these guys are gonna

796
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 5: get drafted. They might be undrafted for rookie free agents

797
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 5: that the Cowboys could end up bringing in. And maybe

798
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 5: Lipkey is a guy that does. But I'll watch him tonight.

799
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 5: I'll take a look at lip Key.

800
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 3: I've heard Jack's Deneen was kind of impressive from Kansas State.

801
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: That's another fullback that could kind of be in that

802
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 3: that realm. All of these guys are probably undrafted free agents.

803
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: Except for lip Key. I think he's the only draft

804
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: that's take a look out. And Cowboys Twitter has been

805
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: on them.

806
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: They've they've sent multiple questions about lip key because you

807
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: look at John.

808
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 5: Coon who is so good in Green Bay with Mike McCarthy.

809
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 5: So I can see McCarthy maybe wanting to get a

810
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 5: full back and one that he likes a lot.

811
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 4: And trust yeah, no more, no more tight ends.

812
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 5: As no more you know, the h Ben McGovern package,

813
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 5: the whole package.

814
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 8: Can we see that completely go with I We'll say

815
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 8: that sometimes it was it was successful when there was

816
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 8: a tight end.

817
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, but maybe team switched to doing something like that.

818
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: But that's kind of actually gotta make you kind of

819
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 4: sad because growing up, fullback was a thing.

820
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, Well there was.

821
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 4: A part, there was a part of it.

822
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 8: There was a point in football that fullback was like

823
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 8: if you didn't have one, it was looked at it

824
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 8: as a weak point in.

825
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: Your own game. And so now that the games transition to.

826
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 6: What's so spread right, Well, this this organization has a

827
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 6: great history of fullbacks.

828
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: I went all the way back to Robert Newhouse in

829
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: the seventies.

830
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 6: You know, Darryl Johnston, you know what he's done through

831
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 6: his the Super Bowl runs and stuff like that. So

832
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 6: you know, absolutely, it's a it's a it's a depending

833
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 6: on how your scheme is and how you run the ball.

834
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

835
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 6: You know that's that could be a that could be

836
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 6: a big reason why you have success doing it all.

837
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: Right, next Twitter on the twenty question, tell me more

838
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: about Jackson player, defensive tackle out of Baylor. Has anybody

839
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: seen Jackson player? If you haven't, well we can move

840
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: on to the next name. Anybody seen him? You got him?

841
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: You're a Baylor guy. I am a Baylor guy. But

842
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: if you got him, go don't have him. He actually

843
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: went to my high school. I will tell you he's

844
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: still Waco Midway grad. I watched a lot of uh sika,

845
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 3: yeah from from Baylor. I watched a lot of him,

846
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 3: and I just kind of caught a glimpse of Jackson player.

847
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: I don't know a ton about him, even though he

848
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: did go to my high school. Uh what about Kayu

849
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: Blue Kelly from Stanford. Now now we're cooking, Now you're cooking.

850
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: Now we're cooking. Uh yeah, this is uh yeah.

851
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 6: Stanford was not very good uh at football this year,

852
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 6: and that was that was one of the reasons why

853
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 6: my buddy Dave Shaw uh resigned. So but he you know,

854
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 6: they do they every once in a while. Stanford will

855
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 6: put in a They do have a great history of

856
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 6: being able to come up with these guys that that are.

857
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 6: You know, like with with Shaw, they were super super,

858
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 6: super tough. I'm trying to get to my notes. Here

859
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 6: may our our system here at the Cowboys, we're having

860
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 6: our internet crusty over ky Do you have you seen

861
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 6: this player what's the name Kyu Blue?

862
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kye Blue Kelly. Yeah at the corner. Yeah, good player.

863
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 12: Uh.

864
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: Now him versus Jordan Addison, I've got him right here,

865
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: then go for it, go for it. Then I'll fill

866
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: in the Yeah.

867
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 6: He's a thin looking player on tape and super competitive

868
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 6: in the way he plays. Uh, but he'll line up

869
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 6: on both sides of the field. He's comfortable playing at

870
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 6: depth or playing up tight. You can he can run

871
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 6: with this guy. He has really good hand use and

872
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 6: skill to maintain his position while moving. I thought he

873
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 6: did a really nice job of reading the route as

874
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 6: it developed. He tracks the ball well enough, has a

875
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 6: feel for how to high point or play in the

876
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 6: air with his or he could play with his off hand.

877
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 13: Uh.

878
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: You know there were times where he was denying the football. Uh.

879
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 6: It's the thing that he showed the ability that he

880
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 6: could be a physical tackler and he's more willing to

881
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 6: throw his body around to bring a ball carrier down.

882
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 6: But sometimes he doesn't wrap up. It's just like throwing,

883
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 6: you know, throwing his body in there.

884
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: Uh he did. He did try and tackle.

885
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 6: You watch him against Jordan Addison from USC and Addison

886
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 6: did break free from him for a touchdown.

887
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: But that was it.

888
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 6: I thought he had a smooth, relaxed pedal playing off.

889
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 6: He can really come out of his break when driving.

890
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 6: Type of player that can carry his man all of

891
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 6: a field. He does compete, and yeah, I think that's

892
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 6: the thing. That's probably his best trade of base six

893
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 6: one one ninety one two. So there's a that's the

894
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 6: redeeming quality about him as well.

895
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: Not he had really good closing speed to make plays

896
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 5: against screens and hot routes. You can tell opposing offenses

897
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 5: showed a lot of respect to him.

898
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: They didn't want to challenge him a lot.

899
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 5: Now he will get blocked, but he's competing like he's

900
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 5: constantly fighting back. He'll get shoved, he's gonna shove right back.

901
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 5: He's got some dog in him at corner, which I'm.

902
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: Always looking for.

903
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 5: I think he can improve as a tackler. You mentioned

904
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 5: he got beat down field against Addison. I saw that

905
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 5: as well. He did give up some plays. I think

906
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 5: he lacks elite speed for the position. I think he's

907
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 5: at his best when he can get physical with the receiver.

908
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 2: He stays in phase a little bit better.

909
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 5: He'll give up some inside leverage, so he can be

910
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 5: susceptible to some inbreaking routes, but he doesn't get fooled

911
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 5: by a lot of jukes and dance moves at the

912
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. He's got clean feet off the line.

913
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 5: As one of the notes that I put. I think

914
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 5: he's anyway, he's probably a third round range for me.

915
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 5: Is Kyu Blue Kelly. If you end up not taking

916
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 5: a corner, you know day one and then you're looking

917
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 5: at day two if you want to go tight end

918
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 5: in the second round where we think there's going to

919
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 5: be a run or another position, Kyu Blue Kelly is

920
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 5: a good corner and take in round three.

921
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: I'd be very happy with him.

922
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 6: He now got one hundred and forty two guys I've stacked,

923
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 6: and so he's number ninety nine on my board, so

924
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 6: he's right inside the top one hundred for.

925
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: Me right inside there, Kyu Blue Kelly to keep it.

926
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: And the name's great. It is a great name. What

927
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: about City?

928
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: So, speaking of a great name, City so offensive guard

929
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: from Eastern Michigan. Peter wanted to know a little bit

930
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: more about that Pete Small School offensive guard. I think

931
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: I got this guy done.

932
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you could talk about him if feeling.

933
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: I have not seen him. So I got two guys

934
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: that I need to watch the night. That's a part

935
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: of the reason. Like I just want to throw names out.

936
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: Then we got hopefully you throw names out that we've seen. Sorry,

937
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm trying City. So what you got? Brian?

938
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 6: He was the starter at left guard for the Eastern

939
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 6: Michigan e He's a massive man.

940
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: He tested very well.

941
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 6: At the combine, and the numbers don't always translate into

942
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 6: the film study. I would not call him a fluid mover,

943
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 6: but he's powerful. He can get movement when he comes

944
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 6: off the ball. His mass is difficult for opponents to

945
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 6: deal with. Keeps the feet moving at contact in the

946
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 6: running game adequate to find the targets on those short pools.

947
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: He uses that full extension. He'll roll his hips to

948
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: set his anchor. When he's bull rushed.

949
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 6: His punch is generally accurate and well timed. He pops

950
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 6: into a straight leg attack sometimes off the snap. You

951
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 6: got to be worried about him being a little tall,

952
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 6: but you know, there's some angle issues that he has

953
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 6: and he's you know, the body control for the extension

954
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 6: of the block could be a little bit of a

955
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 6: problem for him. So, you know, he played a ton

956
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 6: of snaps at Eastern Michigan. He was He's a Canadian kid,

957
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 6: so he's gonna need I think he's going to need

958
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 6: some serious technique work.

959
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: But size makes him worth the shot.

960
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I also say he said he played a

961
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 4: lot of snaps. I had that he's durable. He's durable,

962
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: like the guy play. He played a lot while he

963
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 4: was there. He didn't have a lot of injuries.

964
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 8: And then you mentioned the guard slash tackle flex with him,

965
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 8: which is important as well. I felt like he was

966
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 8: really stout at the point of attack. Like you were

967
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 8: talking about his vicious his punch is it's pretty vicious,

968
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 8: but I also felt like I'm seeing what else here. Oh,

969
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 8: I didn't like that he oversets.

970
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: He sets Okay, he.

971
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 6: Has to almost compensate because he's probably when you overset.

972
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 6: You're probably a little bit worried about speed or him

973
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 6: having to deal with.

974
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 8: That's more because to me of his feet, more because

975
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 8: of his feet, not his hands. So again things he

976
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 8: can work on. Him and John Gains U.

977
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 9: C l A.

978
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 4: I see a lot of similarities in their play.

979
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 8: They both, if I'm not mistake, and test it pretty

980
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 8: well at the combine. So those are two gentlemen that

981
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 8: I wanted to bring up today anyway because they were

982
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 8: a little farther down the guard depth chart. But I

983
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 8: know that there's a possibility that we maybe are looking.

984
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: At that tell me a little bit about Gains because

985
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: if the Cowboys don't go guard early, that could be

986
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: a big time pick up in the middle rounds for sure.

987
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 4: On let me get onim.

988
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 6: I got him if you want to, all right, John

989
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 6: Gains at UCLA, he's the left guard for the Bruins.

990
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 6: He appears to be much larger and thicker on tape

991
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 6: than his three to ozho three is what he weighs.

992
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 6: He tested as the best guard at the combine, but

993
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 6: again he doesn't really play as well as he tested

994
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 6: their times where he's off balance, he struggles to keep

995
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 6: his feet the body control and balance could be a

996
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 6: little bit all over the place with this guy. He

997
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 6: tends to struggle on the second level when he's asked

998
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 6: to get in those positions. He does have some stoutness

999
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 6: as a pass protector, but the more that he has

1000
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 6: to move, the more trouble he has staying connected with

1001
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 6: the rusher.

1002
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 8: Uh.

1003
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 6: He looked like a highly intelligent player and assignment sound

1004
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 6: type of a guy. He started at center, at guard,

1005
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 6: at tackle, you know, so you kind of like him

1006
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 6: for the flexibility.

1007
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: I feel like he could.

1008
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 6: Find the targets and stuff like that, But again it's

1009
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 6: that sustain with him hitting those landmarks and things like that.

1010
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 6: His I think that, you know, you watch him, he

1011
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 6: tends to slide off opponents in the running.

1012
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: Game for you know, for the way that he blocks.

1013
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: So that's kind of what I think about John.

1014
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 6: I like the fact that he could play all three

1015
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 6: spots that position flex hest. He's got some, but like

1016
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 6: I said, there's a little bit of that where the technique.

1017
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: Stuff is going to be a little bit of an

1018
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: issue for him.

1019
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 8: It's so crazy that you mentioned that he tested better

1020
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 8: than any guard at the combine, and I.

1021
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 4: Feel like.

1022
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 8: He's he showed like speed and athleticism and all this stuff,

1023
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 8: but like you said, like it isn't something that just translates.

1024
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 8: It translates, but it doesn't because you need more power.

1025
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 4: And I don't think that he plays I know that's

1026
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: your thing.

1027
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 8: I don't think he plays with as much power as City,

1028
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 8: so especially in the run game now, I think his

1029
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 8: past past game sets are far better. And I feel

1030
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 8: like in a zone scheme he might work, but his.

1031
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: Hands are low.

1032
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, his hands aren't good.

1033
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 8: His hands are low a lot, and that's why he's

1034
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 8: late with his punch a lot of the time.

1035
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 4: And I didn't like that. I didn't like that at all.

1036
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 8: So yeah, those are like like we were talking about,

1037
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 8: those are two dudes. Though that I was like, maybe

1038
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 8: with some coaching and some you know some, I feel

1039
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 8: like there's more.

1040
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 4: There's more upside with City.

1041
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 2: I've got I've got both of them in the fifth.

1042
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 6: I have gains over the top of so okay, you think,

1043
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 6: so okay, and I got me in the fifth and

1044
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 6: but they both fall, they're both likely fall. Well, they'll

1045
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 6: be in the one fifty range for me when I'm

1046
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 6: starting to stack them.

1047
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: I don't have them yet. In my in my one

1048
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 2: fifty mixed process.

1049
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, but the thing about because say I'm worried about

1050
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 6: having to add a full back or some sure bs

1051
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 6: like that.

1052
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, let's go all that.

1053
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 6: You know, now you get to a certain point you're like, Okay,

1054
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 6: I'm not going to look at a player that's going

1055
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 6: to be.

1056
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: In the top one fifty. I just don't feel like that.

1057
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 6: I just don't feel like So I've got to a

1058
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 6: point where got him stack but fifth round games, sal

1059
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 6: that's on of how it got him right there.

1060
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got another guy you're speaking of upside but

1061
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: also still kind of a bit of a risky pick

1062
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 3: just because of some of his past Zach Evans running

1063
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 3: back from Ole Miss. And I know Zach knows this

1064
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: guy because well, you and I used to cover him

1065
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: in the studio back when he was playing high school

1066
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: ball in Texas. But he went to Ole Miss, started

1067
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: at CCU, was there for a couple of seasons, transferred

1068
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: to ole Miss, thinking that was his best shot to

1069
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 3: get to the NFL. Tell me more about Zach Evans

1070
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: and what he brings to the football field.

1071
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 5: It's kind of mean, stiff, army hits the whole. I

1072
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 5: mean with with vengeance. There's not a lot of wasted

1073
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 5: motion with him. He doesn't dance around. He's got impressive

1074
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 5: acceleration in the open field. I think he fits best

1075
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 5: in an outside zone scheme. I think he'd work really

1076
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 5: well in San Francisco or in Miami. You know that

1077
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 5: that kind of system where we've seen like a Raheem

1078
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 5: Mostert or North Texas Owe Jeff Wilson have success. He's

1079
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 5: a good safety net out of the backfield. You don't

1080
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 5: see a lot of route combination from him like you

1081
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 5: would a Kenny McIntosh Georgia, but he's safe. You can

1082
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 5: check it down to him in the in the flats.

1083
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 5: You rarely see him get knocked backwards. He plays behind

1084
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 5: his pads. He lowers his shoulder to finish runs, much

1085
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 5: like like we've seen here with Ezekiel Elliott over his career.

1086
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 5: Sometimes would like to see him make the first guy

1087
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 5: miss more, but he's overall a very solid runner runner.

1088
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 5: He did have a fumble when I watched him against

1089
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 5: Troy where he breaks a tackle in the backfield and

1090
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 5: another defender knocks the ball out from the backside. So

1091
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 5: he might need to improve you know, the possession and

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00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 5: ball security a little bit.

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00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: But I mean Zach Evans is a heck of a player.

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00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 5: You see the talent, but you do need to make

1095
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 5: sure he checks off all the background and personality traits

1096
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 5: that you want, because that's been something that's carried on.

1097
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 5: He's played three different teams in college and that was

1098
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 5: an issue for him. He got benched in the state

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00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 5: championship game when he was in high school.

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00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 6: This guy's player one oh one on my board, and

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00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 6: I'll say this about him. He is not afraid to

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00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 6: lower that shoulder and deliver a below. He was always

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00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 6: plowing for extra yards. He's got some run where he

1104
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 6: was able to grab the edge, but I think he's

1105
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 6: kind of a little bit more of an inside runner

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00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 6: and he locates the hole, makes the cut. He runs

1107
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 6: with some power. He could be a hard guy to

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00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 6: bring down. I felt like he had a little bit

1109
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 6: more power than he did speed. You saw some long runs,

1110
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 6: but not game breaking type runs. I just don't think

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00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 6: he has that type of speed. But the balance was

1112
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 6: really good. There's a snap or two where he was

1113
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 6: able to jump over a defender. He had some carries

1114
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 6: where he breaks tackles in the open field. I did

1115
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 6: not see.

1116
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was maybe the games.

1117
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 6: I was looking at Auburn, Arkansas, Kentucky catching the football

1118
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. You guys would have to help

1119
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 6: me on that one, but that I noticed. But when

1120
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 6: the ball did come his way, he was able to

1121
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 6: make the catches.

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00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: So you know, he's impressive with the bulk and the power.

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00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: He's a type of back that just kind of wears

1124
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: you down with the way that he runs. He absolutely does.

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00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: He gets better as the game goes on.

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00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said he was decisive.

1127
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 8: Again, don't know if those are the right worst to use,

1128
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 8: but he's a decisive, decisive runner.

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00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 4: He sees it. He's gonna go. He's gonna take some risks,

1130
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 4: he's gonna take some chances.

1131
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 8: He's gonna try to make he's he's and like you said,

1132
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 8: he's not gonna try to make a lot of guys miss.

1133
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 4: He's decisive. He's like, no, this is it for me.

1134
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to I'm running the exactly absolutely. And one

1135
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 4: thing that I also to how did y'a feel about

1136
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 4: him in past?

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00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 5: Bro when he wants to, I think you can do it.

1138
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 5: There's just times. I think he makes some business.

1139
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it.

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00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 8: Yeah's starting to make now Like it's it's super cliche,

1141
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 8: but I'm starting to make a bigger deal out of

1142
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 8: pass pro in this league now with back because even

1143
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 8: more than actually I want to say two three years ago,

1144
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 8: Like it matters because of how much the balls being

1145
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 8: passed around.

1146
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: Like you're well for your ability to stay on the

1147
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: field too. Yeah, you're looking for a three down back.

1148
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, with the offensive line play, you need a guy

1149
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 8: that's gonna And that's one of the things that I

1150
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 8: kind of was like a ship strip. And then, like

1151
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 8: you said, the off the field stuff is things that

1152
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 8: you want to check out on. But he was a

1153
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 8: thirty visit if he was a guy that reportedly rather

1154
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 8: a thirty visit, So maybe the Cowboys are looking at

1155
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 8: maybe taking a chance on the dude or just seeing

1156
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 8: what he got because he is that powerful dip your shoulder,

1157
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 8: I'm gonna make you pay runner, and I that's something

1158
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 8: that maybe you're lacking right now.

1159
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Speaker 3: And you do your background work and you kind of

1160
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 3: see what type of guy he is, bring him in,

1161
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: have him one on one, and kind of have do

1162
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Speaker 3: your due diligence, and that's what that scouting department across

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Speaker 3: the way has been very good at over the last

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Speaker 3: couple of years. All Right, when we come back, it's

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Speaker 3: Beemer's choice. We're gonna have him give us some tell

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Speaker 3: me more. We're gonna get to some more prospects. We've

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Speaker 3: already hit ten so far in this show. It's deep

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Speaker 3: dives into prospects here on the Draft Show.

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Speaker 3: Brian brought us, Zach Wilchuck Aisham Morrison, I'm Kyle Yeomans,

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Speaker 3: and we've got Chris Beam in the back who has

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Speaker 3: done an absolutely fantastic job with.

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Speaker 2: His team of let's say b roll scouts. How about

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Speaker 2: we put it that way, They're b roll Scouts, The

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Speaker 2: Beam Roll, the Beam Roll Beam. I like that, the

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Speaker 2: Beam Roll.

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Speaker 3: He's put together hundreds and I mean hundreds of highlight

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Speaker 3: tapes over the last couple of weeks. So over these

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00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: last couple of minutes of the show, we're gonna have

1221
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: him choose to tell me more about these specific players.

1222
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 3: And I believe, Beamer, You're gonna start with one that

1223
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: has a connection inside the building.

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Speaker 13: Right I am, because I'm gonna start with duce Vaughan

1225
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 13: And here's his burell, his bureau.

1226
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: Running back from Kansas State. Gosh, he's amazing. You like,

1227
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: you like, what what do you do with duce Von?

1228
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 13: Okay, so small, you're forty times you're in a four

1229
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 13: or five seven or something like that.

1230
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: Yep, but it seems like he makes plays all over

1231
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: the field. Oh he does. What do you do with

1232
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: duce Von? See here's the issue with Deuce.

1233
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 5: We were just talking about the pass blocking, right, Duz

1234
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 5: Fawn's not gonna give you that. But Duce Vaughn is

1235
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 5: just a playmaker. I mean he can you talk about

1236
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 5: a guy who can make plays. He would have been

1237
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 5: your prototypical I think third down back and several years

1238
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 5: ago where you were talking about a guy who can

1239
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 5: make plays out of the backfield.

1240
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 2: He can catch it. I mean, he's capable of running.

1241
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 5: Routes from the slot. You see him do that at

1242
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 5: Kansas at Kansas State. He's elusive. He carried a massive

1243
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 5: workload in college. So despite the size, to me, durability

1244
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 5: is not a question. But he's just you blink and

1245
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, I mean his start stop quickness just

1246
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 5: jumps off the charts, low center of gravity obviously because

1247
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,479
Speaker 5: he's smaller, so he's difficult to see. I think there's

1248
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 5: sometimes maybe he'll try and break a run outside, or

1249
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 5: he'll take angles where you're thinking, no, no, just cut

1250
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 5: that up there instead, and he leaves some yards on

1251
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 5: the field. But you watch Duzvaughan, he might be one

1252
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 5: of the most exciting players to study in the entire

1253
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 5: draft clots. It's the size that's gonna knock him. And

1254
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 5: then you mentioned Aesha the pass blocking ability. I don't

1255
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 5: think he's got that.

1256
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 8: The only thing that's to me that would knock him

1257
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 8: is the size. Yeah, like right, I mean when you

1258
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 8: look at the player and with the player is capable

1259
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 8: of the receiving, capability to speed the burst. He's a

1260
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 8: former soccer player, so he's a guy that has a

1261
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 8: lot of durability and awareness and a vision awareness intelligence,

1262
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 8: and he's an intelligent guy and even to a point

1263
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 8: to where he avoids similar to to Zeke, how Zeke

1264
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 8: didn't like, he avoids a lot of the low hits

1265
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 8: that people try to take on him because he's just

1266
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 8: aware of where he is on the field.

1267
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: And so I that to me, the only thing that's gonna.

1268
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 8: Limit limit him, or people will be nervous about is

1269
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 8: his size and the durability because of the size or whatever.

1270
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think you can basically make great

1271
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 6: points about him as a player. I think you have

1272
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 6: to have a plan for if you draft him. You

1273
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 6: have to have a plan of when you watch on tape,

1274
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 6: the offensive coordinators and the running back coaches and those guys,

1275
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 6: they're like, Listen, he could fit into this package.

1276
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you could watch Kansas State tape and figure

1277
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 2: out ways to use him. Yeah, you know.

1278
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 6: And I love his toughness. I love how elusive he is.

1279
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 6: I think there's an advantage to him being short. Actually,

1280
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 6: when you do talk about him running behind bigger NFL

1281
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 6: offensive line, see and it's hard to see, and all

1282
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 6: of a sudden he squirts out the other side. It's

1283
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 6: already a six yard game. The guy catches the ball. Well,

1284
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 6: he's super tough, comes from a football family, you know.

1285
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 6: I mean, there's so many positive things. Listen, Let's not

1286
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 6: act like he's not the only short productive player in

1287
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 6: this draft. No, all we've done is watch short productive players.

1288
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 6: Flowers Dell, you know this guy right here. I mean

1289
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 6: that's that's what you have to do. You have to

1290
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 6: have a vision and an idea for what you want

1291
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 6: to do with this kid. And he plays big time

1292
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 6: football and has been productive doing it.

1293
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 5: And we talked about yesterday the returning ability. Yeah, dou Sponzie,

1294
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 5: I that can give you that if you want him

1295
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 5: to be a kick and a punt returner. I believe

1296
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 5: he could be very successful with that.

1297
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 8: And also you mentioned, I mean super important for running back.

1298
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 8: His ball security is top nine impressing, it's top notch.

1299
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 8: He's talked about how much he how much work he's

1300
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 8: put into it, and just to add that to the

1301
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 8: trifecta of the things he does.

1302
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, he's in the zero percentile in height and

1303
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 3: arm length, he's in the one percentile in weight, and

1304
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: he's in the thirty and thirty two percentile in bench

1305
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 3: press and broad jumps, and I draft the heck out

1306
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 3: of him.

1307
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you look at the tape, and the tape

1308
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: is magnificent.

1309
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 6: Figured out. These coaches make millions of dollars. You know,

1310
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 6: don't tell me the kid can't play. I watched him

1311
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 6: play at Kansas State and he could play, and so

1312
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 6: you know, kind of figured out. But then again, you know,

1313
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 6: Bill Parcells is in my ear going you draft an exception.

1314
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 6: You have a team full of exceptions. I think this

1315
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 6: is a good exception to have.

1316
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: There you go.

1317
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 6: I would I would absolutely like to have this exception

1318
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 6: two more points.

1319
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 3: And this backs up the durability that you guys are

1320
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 3: talking about, and Zach brought it up initially two hundred

1321
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 3: and thirty five carries in twenty one. He followed that

1322
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 3: up with two hundred and ninety three carries in twenty

1323
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: twenty two. That's nearly three hundred carries in a collegiate

1324
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 3: football season.

1325
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: That's unbelievable.

1326
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: How much of a durable running back he is and

1327
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: how much they utilized him at Kansas State led the

1328
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 3: Big Twelve in all purpose yards in twenty one, and

1329
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 3: he led the FBS in all purpose yards in twenty

1330
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 3: twenty two.

1331
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: He can play go get you a guy. What's next

1332
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: on our list? Beamer?

1333
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 13: My second player is a Division Division two Player of

1334
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 13: the Year, which is Caleb Murphy.

1335
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 6: Oh, this is uh fairst State, right, Fairest State, first.

1336
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: State, Farris State.

1337
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, you're going about bulldogs, right, Yeah, You're about

1338
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 6: to see some pretty crazy.

1339
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: Uh, this guy was.

1340
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 6: He set a record for sacks in that division. And

1341
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 6: what's interesting about this cat. He was two hundred and

1342
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 6: fifty four pounds at the combine and on his pro

1343
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 6: day he weighed two hundred and sixty three pounds, is

1344
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 6: what he did. And you could see right there when

1345
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 6: you're watching, if you're able to the highlights of him,

1346
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 6: he has the ability to get around blockers and get

1347
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 6: around him quickly and kind of leaves them in their dust.

1348
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 6: In the way he plays. He's a really really good

1349
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 6: finisher around the ball. You know, you could see the

1350
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 6: ability to chase there's the dip and then now get

1351
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 6: to the quarterback balls on the ground. You know, if

1352
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 6: he has a little bit of a weakness, they kind

1353
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 6: of talk about his playing strength is what they do.

1354
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: So to me, I would be a little bit mindful

1355
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: about that.

1356
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 6: You know, let's see if he's going to able to

1357
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 6: get around some of these NFL.

1358
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: We'll be all watching preseason games.

1359
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 6: It'll be in the fourth quarter and all of a sudden,

1360
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 6: this kid will come flying because the tackles are not

1361
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 6: very good and maybe that's where he has an effect.

1362
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 6: But I kind of feel like the fact that he

1363
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 6: went from two fifty four to two sixty three. He

1364
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 6: feels like he needs to get a little bit bigger

1365
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 6: for the position, but the numbers are surely there for him.

1366
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 3: So what do they always say about these Division two

1367
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 3: Division three prospects?

1368
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: They better look like a man amongst boys. Well, they

1369
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: better walk on water, something I always did. That's another

1370
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 2: one too.

1371
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, And then you know, but this guy, like I said,

1372
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 6: he's been to a couple of different schools, Grand Valley

1373
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 6: Date and now with Fair State, and you know he

1374
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 6: dealt with the COVID thing and the pandemic can when

1375
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 6: they played that in that division of football, they just

1376
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 6: totally canceled the season.

1377
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 2: So he lost that right there. But you know, you

1378
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: could see right here.

1379
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 6: I mean he he is a very very productive player,

1380
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 6: There's no question about that. You know, he's again it's

1381
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 6: going to be about figuring out, you know, developing some

1382
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 6: pass rush moves and and finding a way to use

1383
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 6: his link and that quickness that he has to be

1384
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 6: able to finish like he did at this level.

1385
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 3: He was able to finish those former accountants off pretty yeah,

1386
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 3: significantly against the Colorado School of.

1387
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 8: Mines out there to talk about him that bad because

1388
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,959
Speaker 8: I think he played against Cody Milkol a couple of times.

1389
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.

1390
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 8: We'll talk about in the draft.

1391
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 5: Six fumble recoveries last year and then he had four

1392
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 5: recoveries as a junior.

1393
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: I mean he is always around the football. Keep an

1394
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: eye on Caleb Murphy. There's a name that you didn't

1395
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 2: think you would hear in the draft process. How about

1396
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: that one more Beamer? We got time or one more

1397
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: before you? I think you will actually kick us off

1398
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: the air. Oh we got all day this? Oh let's go,

1399
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: all right, we got a couple more.

1400
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, you got you got guys that have

1401
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 6: to do a radio showing afternoon.

1402
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonta give you.

1403
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 13: The only reason I'm going to do this guy is

1404
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 13: because every time he catches a testdown, he always tells

1405
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 13: the dB that he's too small. So this is gonna

1406
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 13: be Grant Dubas from Charlotte Wide Receiver.

1407
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 3: Okay, Grant Dubo's from Charlotte All Conference USA. Couple different times,

1408
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 3: I like what he brings to the table. I'm trying

1409
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 3: to pull up my notes on him.

1410
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: Hold up, I'm looking again. I've got I've got computer

1411
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: slowness of myself. He's a boy.

1412
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 5: I got to see him actually in person against North

1413
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 5: Texas a couple of years ago.

1414
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: He makes some plays down the field. He kind of feasted.

1415
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 5: Now, Jalen Darden was an absolute star in the game

1416
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 5: as well. But I mean, he's a guy that just

1417
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 5: makes a ton of plays down the.

1418
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: Field, testdown, catch with watch, he just throws up little boy.

1419
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 6: It minds me a little bit of what Jalen Tolbert

1420
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 6: did with at South Alabama last year. He was always

1421
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 6: kind of talking about, you know, and.

1422
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: Here's another one. Watched this.

1423
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 13: He's gonna look at this guy and go, yeah, buddy, yeah,

1424
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 13: Well he's gonna celebrate too on you.

1425
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 6: Well, you know, like you say when you watch the

1426
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 6: highlights of him playing here, the guy has got he's

1427
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 6: got the size.

1428
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: He clearly has the size.

1429
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 6: And you know, and and that's something that you know

1430
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 6: in this draft we talk about that.

1431
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: How many bring it up again, how many small.

1432
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 6: Wide receivers the tall wide receivers we talk We don't

1433
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 6: talk nearly enough about uh mingos and guys like that.

1434
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 6: A guy at Tennessee uh that plays opposite Chillman. You know,

1435
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 6: we're not talking about guys that have that that size

1436
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 6: and that length and stuff like that.

1437
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: Great job right there at justin to a ball thrown

1438
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: over his head.

1439
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 5: He always catches it and you're too small.

1440
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yellow crazy.

1441
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: That's what jumped off the page. But that's but that.

1442
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 6: If you're looking for, like you say, this is where

1443
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 6: you start to find where are these where are the guys?

1444
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 6: If you're one of those teams, it's looking for a

1445
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 6: receiver with length and productivity and the ability to adjust.

1446
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: You know, this is the type of guy.

1447
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 6: That that you know, people will go and work on

1448
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 6: and say, okay, we'll get you know, why are we

1449
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 6: looking at all these short guys?

1450
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: Well here, okay, well let me give you a tall guy.

1451
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 2: You know.

1452
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 6: Here's here's a guy that actually has some really some

1453
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 6: good production for you.

1454
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 3: Maybe that's a topic of conversation next week because we

1455
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 3: have talked about some of these smaller receivers and how

1456
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 3: much it is a change in philosophy. What about the

1457
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,439
Speaker 3: guys we're not talking about that or maybe not as

1458
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 3: technically sound as some of these smaller white outs. Yeah,

1459
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 3: but they are the size of advances to have the

1460
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 3: size advantage to their to their game.

1461
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 4: That's just crazy, how many how much things have changed.

1462
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 8: It's true, I felt like at one point in time,

1463
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 8: if you didn't have a fifty to fifty ball guy

1464
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 8: on your in your receiving core, you were you were wrong, right, And.

1465
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 4: I mean maybe that's still the case. But it's just

1466
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 4: it's just crazy to think that this is not what

1467
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 4: you're looking.

1468
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: For, the true possession type of receiver.

1469
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 8: Possession receiver fifty to fifty, you know, adjust to the

1470
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 8: ball like that's you want that. But you may have

1471
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 8: one of those guys in your receiving corps were in

1472
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 8: that multiple.

1473
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 4: Now you need speed, got to have to get that speed.

1474
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that team speed is huge. We've seen that as

1475
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,919
Speaker 3: an emphasis lately. All Right, that is it for us

1476
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 3: today on the Draft show.

1477
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: You got to look at fullbacks tonight. I got to

1478
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: look at some fullbacks.

1479
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 3: Hunter lib Key out of North Dakota State, maybe uh

1480
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: Caleb Murphy a rusher from Farris State as well. But

1481
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: we've got a couple to keep an eye on. Got

1482
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 3: through fourteen prospects today. Everybody that's pretty good. Let's go

1483
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 3: and deep dies on all of them too. By the way,

1484
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 3: Chris in the middle of that fullback segment told us

1485
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 3: the last time the Cowboys drafted a fullback Sean Chappis

1486
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 3: twenty eleven, seventh round.

1487
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, George Japhis, that was the last time. Some thin

1488
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 2: too long ago. I mean that's twelve years ago now,

1489
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: but still not too bad. Sean Chappis, Sean Chappish.

1490
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 6: There you go, probably teaching pee somewhere, Bryant.

1491
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 3: We have three more ship pew, three more shows until drafted.

1492
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: That's it. Three shows and we've got some surprises in

1493
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: every one of the shows. We're gonna have some fun.

1494
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: Oh these next three shows.

1495
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a lot of fun the next couple weeks.

1496
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: But we are closing in two weeks away today from

1497
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 3: the NFL fail Draft for Chris Beam and his beamroll

1498
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 3: for Brian brought us at Weldschuck, I Usha Morrison, I'm

1499
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 3: Kyle Yoma saying so long. We'll see you next week

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01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 3: on the Draft Show presented by Miller Life.

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01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,720
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01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,840
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