1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News Headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: Kel's We Can Review with Ryan kel Kelly and now 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Here's Kel. Hungarian fish scientists produced a brand new species 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: while encouraging a sexual reproduction and sturgeon. The new species 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: is a hybrid between a Russian sturgeon and another ancient fish, 6 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: the American paddlefish or spoonbill. This hybrid with the ancient 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: origin is of course named the sturtle fish. I'm not 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: sure what's more disturbing the act of creating new species 9 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: when so many sturgeon and paddlefish species are critically endangered, 10 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: or the mental image brought about by a group of 11 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: scientists performing the act of quote, encouraging a sexual reproduction. 12 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure about you, but my mind doesn't wander 13 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: to anything scientific when I hear the sentence we were 14 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: encouraging a sexual reproduction, define encouraging. Russian sturgeons, specifically those 15 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: from the Caspian Sea, have been on the decline for decades. 16 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: The fish are highly prized for their row, which is 17 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: lightly brined with salt at the peak of egg development, 18 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: turning eggs into caviare. If you want a couple of 19 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: fun caviare facts. One way that folks harvesting caviare find 20 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: that the eggs are at peak development is by using ultrasound. 21 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: There are many ways to extrude the row, one of 22 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: which is gently massaging the fish. And don't go just 23 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: throwing the word cavea around. If you are not talking 24 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: eggs from fish belonging to the family a seppense saraday, 25 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: which is sturgeon, or polodont today, which is paddlefish, you 26 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: just aren't talking caviaar. You may be talking about tasty, 27 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: slightly salted eggs that came from fish, but they are 28 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: caviare substitutes, not caviare. It's a fake. Now, on a 29 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: personal note, I've separated salmon row and small mouth bass 30 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: row and trout row from their skeins, rents them, soaked 31 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: them in a salt solution, and found them all to 32 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: be very good eating, but probably much more visually appealing 33 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: than tasty. The United States banned the import of beluga 34 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: caviare from the Caspian Sea in two thousand five, over fishing, 35 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: as well as habitat destruction in the way of pollution, 36 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: had taken its toll on the population. Currently beluga sturgeon 37 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: is listed by the i U c N as critically endangered. 38 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Despite this, starting in about two thousand and seven, there 39 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: has been some legal trade of black sea and Caspian 40 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: sea caviare. If you are a caviar eater, don't despair, 41 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: Just try to do your research and see if you 42 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: can is yours from sustainable stocks here in the US. 43 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Paddlefish or spoonbill or Polodon spafula. That's spafula, not spatula. 44 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: But if you're familiar with the paddlefish, if it were 45 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: Polodon spatula, that would be very fitting. As we have 46 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: covered before, this prehistoric spoonbill has a bill or paddle 47 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: or rostrum that can be about a third of its 48 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: entire body length, sticking up where its nose would be. 49 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: They date back about a hundred and twenty five million 50 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: years and are found throughout the Mississippi and Missouri River drainages. 51 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Some folks even called these freshwater sharks because of their 52 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: shark like tail and the fact that their body is 53 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: cartilaginous no bones about it. Although the paddle fish has 54 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: been greatly reduced in number, it can still be found 55 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: in twenty two states and fished for in some capacity 56 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: in thirteen of those twenty two states. In fact, in 57 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: the state of Oklahoma, new paddlefish angling world record was 58 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: just caught. You can get all the details at the 59 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: meat eater dot com or on Spencer New Heart Road 60 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: on that one. In a quick recap for you, suffice 61 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: it to say that this fish was bigger than any 62 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: previously caught by whopping two pounds eleven ounces means of 63 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: take the angling in this case and in most cases 64 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: when you're talking paddlefish is snagging. That's using a big 65 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: treble hook, a little bit of weight, and you're ripping 66 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: that treble hook through the water hoping to snag a battlefish. 67 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Paddlefish eat by straining zooplankton and phytoplankton out of the water, 68 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 1: meaning that they have your typical like straining means of 69 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: eating right. They open a huge wide mouth, they filter 70 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: feed all these little tiny animals and miniature crustaceans through 71 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: their gills, through their gill rakers, and trap that food 72 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: as they move. And nobody's making any sort of like 73 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: conventional tackle that has a big enough hook to land 74 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: a possibly hundred forty pound fish while representing a miniature crustacean. 75 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 1: Now here's some unsubstantiated evidence from a fellow I trust 76 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: who has caught on a fly rod to paddlefish, and 77 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: while he was in the boat, his friend next to 78 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: him caught two paddlefish. This was blow a damn on 79 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: an unnamed river that I can't tell you about, but 80 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: they did it consistently enough to where they were catching 81 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: paddlefish that we're eating their flies. Now again, if you 82 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: ever take a look at the picture one of these things, 83 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: they have like a giant bucket trap mouth. Right they're 84 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: going to filter a huge volume of water. So it 85 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: is very conceivable that as they're down there, especially in 86 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: the river and moving water situation, that they're lined up 87 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: and those big bucket miles could quite possibly just be 88 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: harder to avoid than not, or they just eat more 89 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: than we think of. Imagine that anyway, you shouldn't be 90 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: catching any stirtle fish in the future, as are under 91 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: lock and key in an aquaculture facility. I think the 92 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: likely benefit to this particular man made hybrid species is 93 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: a less expensive caviar. Hybrid caviar, which does exist, is 94 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: typically less expensive than straight sturgeon row. In this case, 95 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: you have a sturgeon like fish that is eating zoo 96 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: plankton like a paddlefish, which costs way way less than 97 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: your typical sturgeon diet would, which is good news for 98 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: you egg eaters. Thinks never did like him much. This 99 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: week the Great American Outdoors Act the Crime Desk, a 100 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: new desk that I'm kind of tinkering with calling the 101 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: that Sucks Desk, as we'll be talking parasites, get it, 102 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: and so much more. But first I'm gonna tell you 103 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: about my week. My week, and this podcast is sponsored 104 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: by Steel Power Equipment. There happens to be some new 105 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: construction going on next to me, and I heard the 106 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: unmistakable rumble of a dependable steel chainsaw right out my window, 107 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: so I went to take a look. I found a 108 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: fella in my backyard using a steel chainsaw to cut 109 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: through a stack of BC eyes, which are floor joyce. 110 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: You use these joys to span gaps between load bearing walls. 111 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: Then you lay your OSB or sheeting of some sort 112 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: on top of that, and then eventually you clean that 113 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: sheeting off of all the sawdust and old nails and 114 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: screws and chew spit, and then you put yourn actual 115 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: nice flooring on top of that. That's how you frame 116 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: a house. Kids. Here's something I didn't know until just 117 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: now in my pursuit of providing accurate information to all 118 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: of you. The floor joist is an eye joist constructed 119 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: by Boise cascade, which is where the be, the C 120 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: and the eye come from. So it's Boise cascade, I joyce. 121 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: Whereas we way back when when I was swinging a 122 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: hammer on the job site, always called the d C 123 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: I S, which I suppose is kind of correct, but 124 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: it would have been way more accurate to call them, 125 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: I joyce. This is not a big deal, but this 126 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: is just one of those moments in life when you 127 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: find out that you were going along with something for 128 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: a long time and it you know it was kind 129 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: of a lie, kind of like calling Cow's deer CU's deer. 130 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: Arizona Game and Fish Department Wildlife Science coordinator Jim Heffelfinger 131 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: lays that argument out in such a way where if 132 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: you are a CU's person, well you're wrong. We haven't 133 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: done any listener emails lately, so we'll catch up on 134 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: the mailpile before we move on. First, I want to 135 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: talk about spbs or soft plastic baits. You may not 136 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: fish with these, but you probably know what they are. 137 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: Molded plastic baits that resemble anything from frogs to crave 138 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: fished worms and salamanders, basically anything of fish could think 139 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: of eating. UH. Fella named Joe write Sam says, it 140 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: seems odd that we're worried about pastic in the ocean 141 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: and other bodies of water, but here we are throwing 142 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 1: plastic baits into lakes all the time. Are these baits 143 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: a special plastic that degrades faster? Well? I dug into 144 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: this one a bit. It turns out the state of 145 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: Maine at one point had proposed legislation that would make 146 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: the use of spbs soft plastic bait it's illegal. If 147 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: you go to Keep America Fishing dot org, you can 148 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: look at a pretty good overview of the history of 149 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: the litigious nature of this uh situation. Uh folks like 150 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: Joe asking the question, and then somebody thinking that, yeah, 151 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: that does make sense, and then they propose a rule 152 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: change or regulation change, and then it shows how folks 153 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: kind of smack that down. I reached out to Berkeley 154 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: Power Bait through phone and email, couldn't get anybody to 155 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: pick up the phone all week, and whoever is responding 156 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: to email isn't great at reading the actual question. So 157 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't have any specifics as to the rate at 158 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: which a paddle tail or twist tail or gulp minno 159 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: bio degrades. I will tell you that I caught some 160 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: really nice blue gill and a few croppy on a 161 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: gulp minno just last week while I was in Minnesota 162 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: filming for the new DOS boat season. So yes, I 163 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: have been using a twister tail grub from time to time. Anyway, 164 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: throwing plastic and rivers is not good. The American Sport 165 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: Fishing Association seems to recognize this, but at the same 166 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: time they show that there are no comprehensive studies showing 167 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: that these soft plastic baits are killing fish or even 168 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: really hurting them. Fish either agurgitata bait or pass it 169 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: all the way through the system as in you know, 170 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: they poop it out. The s A has put their 171 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: efforts into angler outreach and education, telling folks to throw 172 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: your spbs away or recycle them instead of throwing them overboard. 173 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: To add on to this and my experience, you have 174 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: a pretty darned good idea as to win a tail 175 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: or A whole bait is going to come off your 176 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: hook uck. So instead of casting again and giving a 177 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: fish that that opportunity to swallow that plastic grub, you 178 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: just swap it out for a fresh one, instead of 179 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: allowing it to go into the river system or lake 180 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: or ocean or what have you. This is not a stretch. 181 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: This is not a big ask for folks buying these baits, 182 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: as they're kind of spendy already. Don't act like you're 183 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: saving cash by fishing everyone until it falls off the hook. Remember, 184 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: my angling friends, if you throw these baits, these plastic 185 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: baits into the river or even on the bank, and 186 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: some shore bird or fish species of concern eventually washes 187 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: up with one jammed in their gullet. The difference between 188 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: a fisher person's piece of plastic and just a random 189 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: litter bugs piece of plastic is the fisher person's piece 190 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: of plastic. Everyone can tell who that belonged to. It 191 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: belonged to a fisher person who was, you know, trying 192 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: to dupe a fish unmistakable. We know where it came from. 193 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: And to the non angling public, it doesn't matter if 194 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: you don't even use that stuff. If you like the 195 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: leech and lead method or floral carbon and fly. These 196 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: folks who don't fish just think of fisher person as 197 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: a fisher person as a fisher person. So pack it 198 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: in and pack it out. Not a big gask and uh, 199 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, for you pro litter folks who love this 200 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: microplastic talk, who will undoubtedly right in about how you 201 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: don't litter, you'd never even consider it. But throwing plastic 202 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: in the river or lake or the ocean isn't a 203 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: big deal. And the fact that folks consumer credit cards 204 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: worth of plastic er month isn't anything worth talking about. 205 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: Just pick up your trash. Moving on the Eastern Arctic, 206 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: killer whales were historically found throughout the eastern shore of 207 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: Canada down to about Boston. Now, however, killer whale sightings. 208 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: The killer whale is a tooth the whale that can 209 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: grow to twenty two ft in length and about twelve 210 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: thousand pounds. They're extremely rare. A few quick searches on 211 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: this topic bring up a really interesting fishing report of 212 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: one fisherman who's been fishing out of Boston for thirty 213 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: five years who was seen two in all of his 214 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: time fishing, some hoaxes, some mistaken identities, and a few 215 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: bum links, so not all that much. There was a 216 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: cool story about how maners back in the eighteen hundreds 217 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: used to complain that there were so many killer whales 218 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: that the killer whales would interfere with their attempts to 219 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: drive blackfish onto the shore for harvest, which, you know, 220 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: says that there were a lot of killer whales and 221 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: Maine in the eighteen hundreds. Well listener named Kyle got 222 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: a video from some childhood friends who are lobster fishermen 223 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: in Maine who filmed one this past Monday off of 224 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: the coast of Jonesport. I could say more about this, 225 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: but Kyle's buddy in the video says it best. When 226 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: looking at the unmistakably tall dorsal fin of a killer whale, 227 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: he just stay, it's a frigging killer whale, which of 228 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: course convinced me that this was at least Maine. Other 229 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: than that, I cannot attest to the location. I'll tell 230 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: you we were filming up in Southeast Alaska one year 231 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: for the Meat Eator TV show. I was hunting blacktail 232 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: with vortexas Mark Boardman, and we were going to this 233 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: spot that required getting out real early in boats, and 234 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: none of Steve's boats have any legal running lights, so 235 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: you gotta wait for the sunlight to come up, and 236 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: you just kind of creep out of the bay as 237 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: the sun comes up on top of that. Once he 238 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: got out of the cove and through the pass, the 239 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: strait that led to this island that we were hunting 240 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: was full of logs, so you had to kind of, 241 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, take your time, even though you didn't want to. Well, 242 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: one morning, it is crystal clear, we're running out to 243 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: our spot, the caesar dead calm, and I start seeing 244 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: spouts the whales clearing their blow holes from a long 245 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: way off, and that mist is just catching the early light. 246 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: Eventually I see that we could get too close, as 247 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: we're both going through the pass at the aim time, 248 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: and being as I had camera crew with me, I 249 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: didn't want to break any laws that I knew or 250 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: didn't know about, you know, the Marine Mammals Act. So 251 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: I cut the engine and gladed to a stop a 252 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: long way from the pot of whales. Soon the other boat, 253 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: captained by Janice pateel Us, caught up to us and stopped. 254 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: The next thing that happened was truly amazing. I'll never 255 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: forget it. This pot of killer whales, instead of just 256 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: running through the pass, turned and came right to us 257 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: kind to investigate. Just as we drifted there on the 258 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: open ocean, they slid right in between our two sixteen 259 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: foot aluminum skiffs. The distance between the two boats, I 260 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: remember thinking, was like an underhand toss of a beer 261 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: from one boat to the next. You can judge me 262 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: on that later, but that's what came to me at 263 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: that time. The other thing that struck me was the 264 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: calf in that group. The smallest member of the killer 265 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: whale group definitely weighed more than either one of our 266 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: boat's engine gear people, and it would have been so 267 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: so simple for anyone of those whales to just, you know, 268 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: rub shoulders with the boat and just swamp us. I'll 269 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: never forget that. I could have walked over to Janice's 270 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,119 Speaker 1: boat on the back of killer whales. And my response 271 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: at the end of this awe inspiring encounter was not 272 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: exactly the same, but kind of similar to Kyle's Buddy 273 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: and Maine. You kind of just get left going man, 274 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: freaking killer whales. So thanks for sending that in Kyle. Last, 275 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: but not least, if you've been paying attention at all, 276 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: you've noticed all sorts of conservation groups celebrating the House 277 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: of Representatives have passed the Great American Outdoors Act by 278 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: a margin of three ten to one oh seven. The 279 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: Senate passed the Great American Outdoors Act by a margin 280 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: of seventy three to twenty five. Now that these boats 281 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: are behind us, all we need is President Trump to 282 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: sign this pack kids into law. The reason that people 283 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: are so excited is conservation work is tedious. It takes 284 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: a lot of work. How much Well, just take one 285 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: part of the Great American Outdoors Act, which is full 286 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: and permanent funding for the Land and Water Conservation Fund, 287 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: a program that takes an excise tax on offshore oil 288 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: and gas drilling. The American taxpayers aren't on the hook 289 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: for this one. It was established in nineteen sixty five. 290 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: That's fifty five years ago, and for fifty five years 291 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: folks in the conservation world have been advocating their butts 292 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: off for full and permanent funding, which has never happened. 293 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: There is cause to celebrate, just briefly, because there's plenty 294 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: of work left to do. I do want to take 295 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: a moment here. There's some strong opponents, lifelong opponents to 296 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: funding the land and water conservation funding, and one of 297 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: them's robbed Bishop. Another one is uh oddly enough Utah 298 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: senator named Mike Lee, who that guy didn't like anything. 299 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: And they like to spend this funding of LWCF. In 300 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: this statement that says mandatory spending on acquiring new land 301 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: for the federal government, it's patently false. What they're saying 302 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: is completely wrong. There are some occasions where LWCF acquires 303 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: brand new land, but those same funds are available for 304 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: such a giant range of access programs that just the 305 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: bulk purchase of land is just a part of it. 306 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: And to narrow it down to just saying this is 307 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: what it does, It just makes the government by land 308 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: would be as accurate as saying all l w CF 309 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: does is make the government partially fund baseball diamonds, which 310 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: is something that it does, or all it does. All 311 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: LWCF does is make the government partially fund bike paths 312 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: to the tune of nine million dollars a year. It's 313 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: kind of true, but it's not the whole picture. These 314 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: guys know what it does. They just don't like it. 315 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: They also live in a state that has over public 316 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: land that that state benefits greatly from. The recreational economy 317 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: in the state of Utah is absolutely bonkers. All you 318 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: gotta do the next time you have to connect through 319 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: the Salt Lake City Airport is look at how they 320 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: advertise the state of Utah. They don't advertise private land. 321 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: They advertise all the national parks, all the national monuments. 322 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: They advertise the outdoor recreational activities on public land. These 323 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: guys are having their cake and eating it too. We're 324 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: gonna move off that ramp and I'm just gonna tell 325 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: you that there's more work to do. Okay. Thank you 326 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: very very much for picking up the phones, writing emails, 327 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: and hounding your state senators, your congressional representatives on behalf 328 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: of the Great American Outdoors Act. Thank you. Thank you. 329 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: Now the up the phone and thank those people. Make 330 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: sure that they hear you say, hey, thank you very much. 331 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: This stuff is very important to me. You did a 332 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: great job on either co signing or voting for the 333 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: Great American Outdoors Act. Then when that sunk in, say 334 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: I got one more thing for you. I need you 335 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: to co sponsor or vote for the Recovering America's Wildlife Act. 336 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: Let them know that what is so cool about the 337 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: Recovering America's Wildlife Act is that every state has submitted 338 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: a list of wildlife and plant species that have the 339 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: greatest conservation needs. We just got a package through the 340 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: House and Senate that provides for a lot of human 341 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: stuff deferred maintenance in parks on US Forest Service land, 342 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: on BLM land, US fishing wildlife land, as well as 343 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: funding through the Land and Water Conservation Fund for access 344 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: projects like parks and baseball diamonds and bike paths and 345 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: ease months and boat ramps. Now it's time to give 346 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: our wildlife a funding boost as well. You supported the 347 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: Great American Outdoors Act again, Thank you so much. You 348 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: know how easy it is to write an email or 349 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: call the switchboard at two oh two two to four 350 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: three one two one, So just do it again. This 351 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: is your call to action. Moving on to the things 352 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: that sucked desk parasites, that is, the Chinese liver fluke 353 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: is a parasitic flatworm that humans can get real familiar 354 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: with by eating raw or undercooked fish. How familiar well, 355 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: like the name suggests, liver flukes end up inhabiting your liver, 356 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: bile duct, and gall bladder. In one recent case in China, 357 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: a Mr Z had liver flukes and habit his liver 358 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: for over four months. Over the course of four months, 359 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: his resident flat worms had essentially emptied out the left 360 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: lobe of his liver, leaving only a pus filled sack 361 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: and thousands of eggs in the form of ciss behind 362 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: in the cavity. If you have ever heard my buddy 363 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Stephen Ronella talk about this type of thing, it does 364 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: sound very similar to trichinosis, only the cycle in this 365 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: case was likely free swimming flatworm ciss in fresh water, 366 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: which attached themselves to a snail, which eventually hatched more 367 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: free swimming ciss that attached and fed upon a freshwater fish. 368 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: That freshwater fish was then eventually caught and consumed by Mr. Z. 369 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: The ciss then free swam through his gut to his bile, ducks, 370 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: and liver, where they ate and laid eggs waiting to 371 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: be eaten again. I'm find it just threw up at 372 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: my mouth a little bit, so I guess what I'm 373 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: saying is sometimes that sign that says fresh fish shouldn't 374 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: be as tempting as the one that says, briefly, flash 375 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: frozen fresh fish. That's the risk of freshwater ceviche folks. 376 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: According to the c d C Center for Disease, can 377 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: roll left unchecked, and given that you survive infections, flatworm 378 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: ciss can last thirty years in the human gut. In 379 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: Airbnb terms, you'd be a super host. Effective medication is available. 380 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: The case of Mr Z was greatly exacerbated due to 381 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: the fact that he waited four months before seeking medical attention, 382 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: and again, freezing or cooking fish will kill the parasite, 383 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: which literally means you can have it both ways. Brother. 384 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: Moving on to the ever popular law enforcement desk, West 385 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: Virginia natural Resources officers cited a man for illegally fishing 386 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: on private property which he illegally accessed on a private road. 387 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: The property was thoroughly posted. In fact, the individual had 388 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: forgotten his kayak paddle and used one of the private 389 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: property signs to paddle his kayak around while fishing that morning. 390 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: He was sighted and stated that the fishing had been productive. 391 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: Jumping over to Florida, Alude tenant with the Walton County 392 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: Jail has resigned after she and her husband were recently 393 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: caught outside of Argyle, Florida, by the Florida Fish and 394 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: Wildlife Commission, shooting at a robotic Dear decoy at night 395 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: out of a vehicle. The husband told f w c 396 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: C that he knew something was wrong, as he rarely 397 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: ever misses. Now, just so you know, typically when you miss, 398 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: or if you are in the position of let's say, 399 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: teaching someone how to shoot, you look for inconsistencies. You'd 400 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: kind of like figure out what the excuses are, right, 401 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: so you can hone in on what the actual problem is. 402 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: You know, were you shooting the same rifle, same cartridge, 403 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: what were the shooting conditions. Once all that's established, then 404 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: you can figure out what the situation is. So when 405 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: this fellow says he rarely ever misses, is he really 406 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: saying that typically when he's driving at night on a road, 407 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: he rarely ever misses from a vehicle on a highway. 408 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: Three times as the couple turned around to investigate the 409 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: robotic decoy and f WCC officer apparently heard the sure 410 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: shot husbands say quote that Dear Sure was pretty thanks 411 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: for sending that one in. Mason, good luck this season. 412 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 1: Jumping over to the I told you so days. Remember 413 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: when you folks made statements like if everyone did that, 414 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: then there would be nothing left. For instance, if everyone 415 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: threw a rock in the Grand Canyon, or if everyone 416 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: picked an apple, or if everyone picked a flower out 417 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: of the field. Well you know they were right, not entirely, 418 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: but they did and do have a point. People cannot 419 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: help themselves. Cuba boasts, among many boasts, it's capable of 420 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: boasting the greatest diversity of snails in the world, snails 421 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: of all shapes and sizes, ranging from meduscule it's a 422 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: large brown opaque, and of course to a critically endangered 423 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: Cuban snail, the painted snail. The painted snail has a 424 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: beautiful shell, is multicolored and glossy, and highly sought after 425 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: by collectors, to the point where all six species of 426 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: painted snail are listed as critically endangered. They're factors such 427 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: as habitat and global warming, but one hard to ignore 428 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: a factor is Cuban officials keep finding snail shells in 429 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: people's pockets. On top of that, they have found an 430 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: intricate network of snail shell exporters. According to National Geographic 431 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: between two thousand twelve and two thousand, sixteen, Cuban customs 432 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: seized more than twenty three thousand shells in fifteen seizures, 433 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: all headed for the US. Now, twenty three thousand shells 434 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: sounds like a lot, but really it's just a fraction 435 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: of what is going on. The writer of this nag 436 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: O piece, Bruno Dimici, personally inspected a couple's collection in Cuba. 437 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: The couple had intended these shells for sale in their home. 438 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: They had at least thirty thousand snail shells. If you 439 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: look at what gets the most attention on the endangered 440 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: species list, it is almost always something large or large 441 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: with teeth. The grizzly bearers stayed on the endangered species 442 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: list for a long time. For example, I find it 443 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: important to include the pocket sized creators too, and to 444 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: note that these snails likely developed their multicolored and vibrant 445 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: scheme to deter predation until people came along and thought, boy, 446 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: that's pretty That's all I've got for you this week. 447 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. As always, let me know 448 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: what I'm getting right, what I'm getting wrong, and what's 449 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: going on in your neck of the woods by writing 450 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: in to ask cal that's a s k C A 451 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: L at the meat eater dot com. Thanks again and 452 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you next week.