1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Howers at the 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. I ain't messing around. That's it. That's it, 6 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: and we're not messing around here on Talking Cowboys. It 7 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: is gameboy, it is Giants Week, and might this be 8 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: not D Day but E Day? Here Star in Frisco, 9 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Bill Jones, Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, Brian brought us and 10 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: here we are. It's the two nineteen regular season. And 11 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: that was Jerry Jones on the flagship station one O 12 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: five three the Fan this morning. Mickey, he's not messing around, No, 13 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: he's not. And they read him this long winding tweet 14 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: from a fan and they were saying, this is kind 15 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: of representative of what everybody's thinking out there, that this 16 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: is a really good Cowboys team. You got an easy 17 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: schedule to start the season. We need everybody there, So 18 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Jerry needs to quit messing around and get Zeke signed. 19 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: So is this day? Yeah, that was saved up, didn't you. 20 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: I just thought of it. I mean, look, I'll believe 21 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: it when I see it. But based on the latest reports, 22 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: they're trying to push to get this done. He's flying 23 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: back reportedly from Cabo to be present in case they 24 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: get it done. And I think we had a mail 25 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: back question this morning Brian about how much time would 26 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: he need to be able to play. Well, they got 27 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: one padded practice tomorrow and he hasn't practiced since minicamp 28 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: in mid June. It'd be, you know, it'd be great 29 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: if you could get him in here and have him 30 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: do that and try to get him ready for the Giants. 31 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: It's asking a lot for him to have to sign 32 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: and play, Yeah, I really do, you know, And just 33 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: studying the Giants a little bit the last couple of days, 34 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: they should be able to beat the Giants. They should. 35 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: The Giants don't match up as well with them as 36 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: some other teams down the road that we'll see. But 37 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: if they can get him signed, get him going, and 38 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: then find a way to get him ready again, I 39 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: just think that this week would be difficult. But knowing him, 40 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: he'll probably try and play if he gets in. But 41 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: I think week two would be more realistic if that 42 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: was me. I think that though, is the fear that 43 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: that Twitter had that led to what Jerry said at 44 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: the beginning is as much as on paper it looks 45 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: like the Cowboys have the better team than the Giants. 46 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: Fans out there are fearful, or at least that tweeter 47 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: is fearful that you need to put your best foot 48 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: forward and don't mess around. Well, you're better not be 49 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: messing around, because you know what, I bet somebody in 50 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety three thought, without em and Smith here, they 51 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: had an easy opener with the Washington Redskins, and then 52 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: they go and give up thirty five points and to 53 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: a team that only ended up winning four games that year. 54 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: So I don't subscribe to any theory about this is 55 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: an easy one. We can hold people out, especially how 56 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: long you guys have been covering this team. How much 57 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: of a crapshoot Division games are. Now, that's what you 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: start off with the season, two straight division games. I 59 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: don't expect him to go out there and play forty snaps. 60 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: But if he gets into practice tomorrow, and I doubt 61 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: they put him in pads anyway, they're going to ease 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: him back in, but by Sunday afternoon, maybe he gets 63 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: twenty snaps. Maybe you put him out there and give 64 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: the Giants something else to think about if he gets 65 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: signed in time. But that's another story. It's interesting because 66 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: we've seen him play on little to no practice time, 67 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: you know, like his rookie year, he missed most of preseason. 68 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: He got but he got a little bit of work. 69 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, he was wondering week to week whether 70 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: he's going to play or not. But he had some background. 71 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: He went to camp, you know, he was in pad something. 72 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: Sure is this is unprecedented for him as much as 73 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: we think he's a professional in terms of getting himself 74 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: ready's body ready to play, I'm with you. I mean 75 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: it's you don't want to risk risk him getting out 76 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: there having no football activity and then something happened where 77 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: he gets hurt, you know, and they will be Well. 78 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: That's why I think tomorrow's the deadline. Yeah, if he 79 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: doesn't get here tomorrow, then I'm not playing him. Like 80 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: if he signs on Friday or Saturday. This isn't like 81 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: Michael Irvin signing on what was it, Thursday before the 82 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: Monday night season opener, and then he went out and played. Sure. 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: Do you think Zeke feels like this is the deadline now? 84 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: His deadline's three o'clock Saturday. Why explain that one? Because 85 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: if he's not signed by them, he doesn't get paid 86 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: for the week. Yeah, if he gets if he signs 87 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: at two o'clock, he gets his game check. Yeah. I 88 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: think this is I think this is more about Ezekiel 89 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: at now realizing that, you know, the Joneses are going 90 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: to dig in and they haven't dug in like the 91 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers have. At least they're talking to Zeke. 92 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: At least they're talking about trying to create some type 93 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: of new deal for him. You know, at least they're 94 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: having dialogue. I don't see the Chargers at all. But 95 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: I think it's also to me about more about Zeke. 96 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: Sam Listen, I've it's all right, it's time for me 97 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: to start playing football. You know, I've got to figure 98 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: out how is it under the current situation it is 99 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: under a new deal. I think that I think there's 100 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: a sense of urgency now with his side. Uh, you know, 101 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: the Joneses have pretty much said, Okay, this is what 102 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: we'll try and do, We'll try and work with you. 103 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: We've said it all along. You know, we're going to 104 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: talk about Lyle Collins here in a little bit, and 105 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: we've kind of always said the doors open. The cap 106 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: guys said this, that door is open. If you're willing 107 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: to deal with us, we'll deal with you. And we've 108 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: seen that now the last couple of the deals that 109 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: they've done, there hasn't been a pecking order. No, it's 110 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: just you know, I mean, I mean the whole thing 111 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: with Lyle Collins, it's you know, Lyle Collins basically left, 112 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: in my opinion, left about five million dollars a year 113 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: on the on the you know, on the table if 114 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: you look at where where his floor could have been 115 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: for where if he'd got to free agency. You know, 116 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: if this thing turns into where it's say it's a 117 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: ten million dollars year thing, the Cowboys got a heck 118 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: of a deal if that's but we'll see, we'll see 119 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: what the number is. But Lyle Collins is a fifteen 120 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: million dollar year tackle in my opinion, he really is. 121 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: And so if if he came in and said, all right, 122 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna do, is I'm gonna sign 123 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm happy about being here. Then good for him, Good 124 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. They've got a deal done, and I 125 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: think that's kind of where they're at right now. See. 126 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: I think what everybody needs to remember on this whole 127 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: deal is the Cowboys want to do this deal with Zeke. Absolutely, 128 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: they want to do it. They don't have to do it. No, 129 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: they could wait three more years if they wanted to. 130 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: So it was kind of their idea to get this 131 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: done ahead of time. So the hold up is obviously 132 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: what the other side's asking for. They don't. They don't 133 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: they don't want to make them sit. The Chargers now, 134 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: I think want to make Melvin Gordon site. It doesn't 135 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: sound like they have any interests in signing them, so 136 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: it's time to It's time to get in. And the 137 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: other thing is, if you remember last year, when you 138 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: know when guys hold out, Earl Thomas held out the 139 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: same way Zeke did, and on Wednesday of the season opener, 140 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: he showed up without a new deal, by the way, 141 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: because he was going to lose five hundred thousand dollars, 142 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: and he saved face by saying, I am invested in 143 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: my teammates. I didn't want to leave my teammates down, 144 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: and he came in hat in hand and played the 145 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: season out. So it's time. There are some I'm checking 146 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: Twitter myself, and there are there's some chatter out there 147 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: that they could be close on a deal. I'll just 148 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: put it that way. We've heard that a lot lately. 149 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think there's any question there's been 150 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: progressed in the last few days to try to get this. Nicky, 151 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: you're kind of our resident cap guy, and I'm not 152 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: asking for a number, I'm asking you. Do you feel 153 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: like it was the difference between the way the contract 154 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: was structured that maybe they were looking for more upfront 155 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: money and the Cowboys are trying to backload this a 156 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: little bit more. Do you think that's kind of what 157 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: the hold up is on this? Not necessarily, because what 158 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 1: teams have been doing lately with the signing bonus is 159 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: the signing bonus has been smaller, and they've been giving 160 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: roster bonuses that have been guaranteed, right, and so to 161 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: help with the guarantee money that doesn't affect the base salaries. Basically, 162 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: what they're doing is saying we're gonna have these guarantees 163 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: over so many years. Like a lot of these contracts, 164 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: the guarantees have been three or four years, not five 165 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: or six, right, And so some of the guaranteed came 166 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: in roster bonuses that were guaranteed the first the second year, 167 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: and then the third and fourth years. They were guaranteed 168 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: three days into the first league year. So they've been 169 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: kind of messing that around so they can keep the 170 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: base salaries a little bit more reasonable, because what they 171 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: want to do is they don't want that pro ration 172 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: hitting big at the end of the contract. They would 173 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: rather big salaries at the end of the contract. If 174 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: this if okay, then if my next question to the 175 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: panel then or to you, Mickey, then since you do 176 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: understand this and you have a good handle on this 177 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: with the fact that his off the field stuff, would 178 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: you rather have a frontloaded contract with him or a 179 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: backloaded contract? I would rather have frontloaded. But see, you 180 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: have to be careful with the base salaries because they 181 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: can only increase fifteen percent percent rule, right, is that 182 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: we're thteen percent each year. You can increase the did 183 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: I say fifteen or thirty? Now you said I just 184 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: said thirty. I thought it was fifteen percent. That could 185 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: only increase the base salaries that much per year, So 186 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: you got to be careful and where you start that 187 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: base salary. And again, his if it's a five year deal, 188 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: it's probably going to be a seven year deal, because 189 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: he's got two years left on the contract sure worth 190 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: what like twelve thirteen million. So they'll they'll throw him 191 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: some signing bonus for this year and they'll reduce his 192 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: base salary and then he'll get And that's the way 193 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: they did. What was the other contract they kept the 194 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: smith the fifth year deal, the fifth year that they 195 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: picked up, they kept that the same. Okay, So that's 196 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: the way they've been doing these contracts. Now. The difference 197 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: and the thing with Leale Collins is, you know, he 198 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: had a six point five six point five two million 199 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: base salary this year with a two point five million 200 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: dollars escalator. So by signing him to a long term 201 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: deal and giving him whatever the signing bonus was and 202 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: pro rating that over the length of the contract, they 203 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: reduced his supposedly reduced his cap hit for this year 204 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: by five point seven million dollars, which means there's more 205 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: money in there. And that's one of the things we 206 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: talked about trying to get a Mari's deal done at 207 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: some point is if you could, then that would lower 208 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: his base outelyificantly for twenty nine. Seeing the difference is 209 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: would dak it's going to increase it because he's only 210 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: countant right now point one two million against the cabin. 211 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and say what's being reported by Pro 212 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: Football Talk out there. It's unconfirmed getting initial chatter of 213 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,239 Speaker 1: a Zeke deal being done six years, ninety million dollar extension, 214 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: extension extension? Who reported that Pro Football Talk? So now 215 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: it's gone to seven. It was seven before, now it's 216 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: eight because it's six years through twenty twenty rest of 217 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: his career, right yew And again the reason I asked 218 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: that I was trying to think of because of his 219 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: off the field stuff or the things that you've had 220 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: to deal with. If you gave him the money later, 221 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: could you get out of a deal if you gave 222 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: him the money now have less to Yeah, that's what 223 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Right if you tried to, if you tried 224 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: to backload this deal on him and he doesn't, you know, 225 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: you need a reason if to get out. That's why 226 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: we think because to your point, like we've seen deals 227 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: around the league and Cowboys in the past, where yeah, 228 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: it looks he's got an usual off the field problem. 229 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: It looks like a lot of years, but really when 230 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: you look at the structure of it, maybe it's a 231 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: three year deal. So he's just got to see where 232 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: the guarantees run out. Because you're probably right because the 233 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: last couple of years you can put a balloon amount 234 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: they should never get to, or if you get there, 235 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: you're going to restructure it. Jerry was asked, is the 236 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: off the field stuff a concern in these negotiations recently 237 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: and he said, no, but it is something that he's 238 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: had in the past, and I don't know if it's 239 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: that's one question I have and they've been tight lipped 240 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: on this, but like, has that been part of the 241 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: negotiation where that, you know, maybe he'd that it's an 242 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: issue for him like I'm I'm not I don't need 243 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: protect I don't need you to protect yourself against me, 244 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, and potential issues down the road. Yeah, that 245 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: adds another layer to these. You know, he's he's unusual 246 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: in that regard because he does have run ins, you know, 247 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: with the Commissioner's office, whether it's his fault or not. 248 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: But you know, but you don't get If you do, 249 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: you don't get paid, So it really he's a moot point. Yeah, 250 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: but I was just thinking about if they had to 251 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: get out of the deal. That's what I was thinking of, Like, 252 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: just get out completely, get out deal completely, if something 253 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: were to happen. And you know, again, I'm not again 254 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: everybody out there has probably accused me right now of 255 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: not liking Seeks. That's not the case. I've been one 256 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: of the few guys that say to pay the man. 257 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: But I also understand though that the team's thought about, Okay, 258 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: if something does happen, you do not want to owe 259 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: a bunch of money on the cap cap money thing is. 260 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: You know, Mickey will come on and tell well, he's 261 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: a thirteen million dollar cap hit. It's kind of like Taco, 262 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, when we were talking about talking about releasing Taco. 263 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: Mickey's telling you in right, so he's guaranteed three and 264 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: a half million dollars. That don't tell me that doesn't 265 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: play into what's going on. He's absolutely right, And so 266 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: are you in a situation with Zeke. If something happens, 267 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: can you structure to get out of it? If it 268 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: in fact, that does happen. That's only if as a protection, 269 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: as I'm saying right now, So anyway, it looks like it. 270 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: And in fact, the fact that Jerry on the radio 271 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: this morning set he was hopeful, that was a very 272 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: positive sign. Yeah, And I've been saying Tuesday, the week 273 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: of the first game, So here we are. I think 274 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: people were saying that July twenty fifth, when the team 275 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: arrived for training camp. The deadline on this thing is 276 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: because three o'clock on Tuesday, Do I get an extension 277 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: to September three? Yes? Rob, No, because it's real now. 278 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: They're getting back to practice, they're in pads tomorrow, and 279 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: the Giants are staring him right in the face. And 280 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: the other thing on Bill's point about three o'clock, because 281 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: they'll have to make room on the fifty three, right, 282 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: somebody's got to go. And if the person's on the 283 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: fifty three after three o'clock on Tuesday, he gets paid 284 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: for this week regardless if he's here, if he doesn't play, 285 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: he gets paid his weekly salary. So you might say, well, 286 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: that's only thirty forty thousand, but every dollar counts against 287 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: this salary cap. It makes a difference. So we're sitting 288 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: here checking Twitter. There any minute bill, but there's a 289 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: there are players on the team also checking Twitter until 290 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: three o'clock this afternoon, especially if you're expendable exactly. That's 291 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: what That's what I mean. 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We're 330 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: going to get into these New York football giants as 331 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: the week goes on. But it's getting some business taken 332 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: care of today. That has been the hot topic around 333 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: these parts. And of course we await news on Ezekiel 334 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: Elliott perhaps being well. He's on his way back here 335 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: according to reports, and we'll see what happens later today 336 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: as far as him perhaps getting signed and then being 337 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: out on the practice field tomorrow as the Cowboys will 338 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: have there. They worked out yesterday. But the game week 339 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: officially begins on Wednesday. For any team playing on a 340 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Sunday in the league. We're now, you know, in Chicago 341 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: and Green Bay, it's Friday, they're playing. They're playing on 342 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,959 Speaker 1: Thursday night. That's try this one hundredth season of National 343 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: Football League action gets underway as they honor the one 344 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: hundredth year. All right, let's honor else a little bit. 345 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 1: I've said it's E Day. Well, let's started out as 346 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: ELC Day. As well, and Lyle Collins. He has posted 347 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: on Instagram a picture of him signing his contract and 348 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: saying that he is a cowboy, fertile and good for him. Yes, 349 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: and I think he's very smart on his part too myself, 350 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: if he wants to be a cowboy for life. Yeah. 351 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: It's funny how round draft time we were saying, oh, 352 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if we could, they could get him 353 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: resigned next year when he's set to be an understricted 354 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: free agent, and Connor McGovern wasn't drafted solely for that purpose. 355 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: But then you're thinking, oh, maybe he's a guy could 356 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: move into guard. You kick Connor Williams out at right 357 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: tackle next year. Well, Nole Collins is your is your 358 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: right tackle for the foreseeable future here? Yeahle Collins is 359 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: developing into a top flight tackle. If you if you 360 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: ask me about the way he's playing, the toughness he 361 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, you talk about just the guys that on 362 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: that offensive line, him Frederick Martin Smith. I mean that's 363 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: a that's a one of the better lines in the league. 364 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: And to have him as at right tackle as he 365 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: continues to improve, and you know, he did the right 366 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: thing as you guys were saying, he wants to be here. 367 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: He made a deal. He went in there and told 368 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, hey, I'm willing to listen to what you 369 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: have to offer, and here's what i'd like, you know, 370 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: and these guy guys are smart, they'll make these things work, 371 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: and they did with him. And you know, I'm one 372 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: of these guys that believed if you took this year 373 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: and then watch Lyle Collins hit free agency, he would 374 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: have got paid very handsomely. And the fact that he 375 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: took a deal that was friendly he believed to himself 376 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: and to the football team. Credit to both of them 377 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: forgetting that done. And it's good that he's part of 378 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: this because I believe he will continue to develop into 379 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: again a top flight right tackle. And he get his 380 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: money early. That means something. Plus you've got now you've 381 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: got some security too at that position. That's why I 382 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: thought everybody was wasting a lot of words and breath 383 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: on this, overthinking the draft choice of McGovern, who kind 384 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: of fell in the Cowboys lap. That wasn't their idea 385 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: and it certainly won their idea to move to Connor 386 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: Williams to right tackle and let this guy walk and 387 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: obviously not since they signed him, well, I didn't go 388 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: to a five year extension and worth reportedly fifty million 389 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: with thirty five million guaranteed. Obviously you want to keep him, 390 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: and they are keeping him. But if he were to 391 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: get to the open market next year, you don't know 392 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: what he could command and whether they could afford it. 393 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: So if it worked out a right year, yeah he was, 394 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: they were probably gonna have to let him go. But again, 395 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything I seen early you convince 396 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: him to stay. Yeah, And Brian said it that he 397 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: came to them and said I want to be here. 398 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: And you know what, it kind of reminds me of 399 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: the Jalen thing because Jalen talked about how they took 400 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: a chance on me injured. Well, the Cowboys signed Lyle 401 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: Collins and some of the most unprecedented circumstances undrafted a 402 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: first round talent, and I believe two years ago they 403 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: rewarded him with a two year extension, got back some 404 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: of the money he lost so much money not getting drafted. 405 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: And I'm sure he feels loyal to this team for 406 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: what they did there. And you know, he talked to 407 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: the media yesterday a little bit he talked to us. 408 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: Not he didn't break any news on this, but he said, 409 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, the coaching I've gotten here, starting with Frank 410 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: Pollard to Mark Lumbo, he just he thinks it's really 411 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: helped him progress as a player, and he clearly wants 412 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: to be part of this organization. I think these guys 413 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: jail and they see the youth and the talent on 414 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: this team, and they see something special that could be 415 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: brewing here, and they want to say. I just think 416 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: they see money. Now, money now means something. Would you 417 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: want to resign on a bad team just to get money? 418 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? Now I don't. I don't know. I 419 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: think I think that's the arrow pointing up for this organization. 420 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: Is another reason for these guys to want to buy 421 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: in long But you would hope so, yeah, I mean 422 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: you could. He could very well have said I'll just 423 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: play this out if people are on a bad team 424 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: and say I'll get as much money as I can 425 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: next year. Would it would be interested to see his 426 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: thirty five million reported guaranteed on what's that? How many 427 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: years that spread out over? Because the deal with clotting 428 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: this year would be six, So it'll be interested and 429 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: see how that's spring you think Amari Cooper wants his money. 430 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: He was asked he was asked the status of his 431 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: nosing because you know what, he knows he's gonna make 432 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: fourteen million this year thirteen nine. Right, But so the 433 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: incentive would be, what's my signing bonus? Sure is my 434 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: signing bonus is going to be fourteen million, And I 435 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: get it right now. I don't have to wait till 436 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: December till you know. Only thing about Lyle is that 437 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: is he's from this part of the country, okay, And 438 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: so from that standpoint, a family standpoint, he wants to 439 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: be in this part of the country. Okay. The other 440 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: thing is where I give him a lot of credit, 441 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: is him understanding what he is. Yes, okay, he is 442 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: a right tackle. In this league, the left tackles get 443 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: the humongous contracts. Okay. Now he could play it out 444 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: and see what the market is out there for maybe 445 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: and some team might give him a shot to play 446 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: left tackle and pay him left tackle money because he 447 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: did it a lot in college, right, Right. But but 448 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: I think he looks at himself, he understands it. He 449 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: sees that I'm playing for the Dallas Cowboys and the 450 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: opportunities that represents, much like with Jalen Smith on a 451 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: very good Cowboys team, what that could mean in terms 452 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: of more money coming in whatever, and just having that 453 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: stability in his life that okay, I know, I am here, okay, 454 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: and I think I think there's there's value in that. 455 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: And I give him credit for making a mature decision 456 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: when once they came to these terms on it, you know, 457 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: and I bet he still is somewhat grateful that after 458 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: what happened when he was a rookie and the Cowboys 459 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: couldn't redo his contract till after two years, and they 460 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: didn't have to do it because it was a three 461 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: year deal, but Jerry did what he thought was the 462 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: right thing, and they redid the deal after two years 463 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: and gave him a two year extension on what he 464 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: didn't make that first two the total opposite of the 465 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: running back, right, if you look at should be grateful, 466 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: well the deal the thing I was gonna Cooper. I mean, 467 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If if if again and people 468 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: out there think I'm bashion Zeke, I'm not bashion Zeke. 469 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, if if you talk about players 470 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: that should be grateful for opportunity, should be grateful for 471 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, for what they've done for guys having your back. 472 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: This this running back really wasn't very grateful. Now he's 473 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: he's you know, he is what he is because he's 474 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: a he's an elite player, don't get me wrong. But 475 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: if there's anybody that should be appreciate what this owner 476 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: tried to do for him, it's this guy. And I 477 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: don't think he has I really don't, or the agent 478 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: has it yep, or he doesn't, hasn't told the agent, 479 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: hey let's do this. Yeah, and he should and maybe 480 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: he has yeah. Yeah. I think I think this could 481 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: have been I think this deal with with Zeke could 482 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: have been done if Zeke would have reported. I really do. 483 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: I think that they could have worked this out with 484 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: him playing, practicing being part of all this. I think 485 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones Jerry Jones are reasonable in that way. You know, 486 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: he's like, hey listen, this is where I'm Matt, can 487 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: you help me here? You know, because Jerry Stephen did, 488 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: they did have his back when you know, I said 489 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: it earlier. I don't know what I said on this show. 490 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: I said on one of these radio shows I was 491 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: on that. You know, you look at Jerry Jones went 492 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: after the commissioner on behalf of Ezekiel Elliott. Think about that, 493 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: he's trying to take down the commissioner of the National 494 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: Football League. That was a that was a bizarre season 495 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: and bizarre stretch of weeks. Like I said earlier, we're 496 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: like he didn't know whether he was eligible to play 497 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: up until Friday, and then he'd played, you know, and yeah, 498 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: and they had his back the whole way. A lot 499 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: of its business Brian, as you know, he's twenty four. Yeah, 500 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: he's looking at it probably and saying, if I have 501 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: another two years on my deal and play those out, 502 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: that's another five hundred, six hundred carries on my tread 503 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: on the tires, and I'm older and I want to 504 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: cash in while I'm at the top of the when 505 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: the Cowboys wanted him to cash in. I'm not saying that. 506 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying what he probably is thinking business wise. 507 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: I understand, I understand, you know, and look, it looks 508 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: like eventually they'll get there. But it would have been 509 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: nice to Brian's point to have him in camp and 510 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: have him We're not discussing how much time he needs 511 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: to be able to play in a game, they'd have 512 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: got this done. I would like to know how how 513 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: far apart they were in the negotiations, because I had 514 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: a giggle that I didn't get to use on the 515 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: pregame show when we had Michael Irvin on, and I 516 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: went back and looked when he held out all of 517 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: training camp and signed the Thursday before the Monday night opener, 518 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: and it came down to they were one hundred and 519 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a partner. And really, when you look 520 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: at it, if it turns out that these unconfirmed reports 521 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: of six year, ninety million dollar extension, it is right. 522 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: It right where anyone could have seen it was going 523 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: to wind up. Yeah, you know that generally is yeah. 524 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: Is it just the path that we took to get 525 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: there wasn't the ideal path, especially if you know, and 526 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys love Ezekie Elliott and they do, they really do. 527 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: I mean, but they also were in a tough spot 528 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: because of drafting so well, and they've got guys to sign. 529 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: They also couldn't just say, like, you know, the Rams 530 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: just rolled over on Todd Gurley to me, they rolled 531 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: over you know, they're moving from Saint Louis. All. I know, 532 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: it happened last year. I get that. But they just 533 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: rolled over on that deal, you know. And now and 534 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: then you know, the Rams are going to give me 535 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: a situation. They've got a bunch of young players that 536 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna have to take care of themselves, 537 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, that Gurly deal is not 538 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: going to look as good to them, and all it's 539 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: going to be, you know, oh, well we need to 540 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: do something here. So I just, you know, I understand 541 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: what I understand what the Joneses did, because if they 542 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: if they roll on this deal, they just rolled over, 543 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: then they're gonna have a whole bunch of their players 544 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: trying to do the same thing as Zeke elity and 545 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: you can't do that. You just can't do that. But 546 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: the Girly deal a year ago, where he was at 547 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: the exact same point in his contract that Zeke is 548 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: right now. Sure, that's what gave the Zeke camp conviction 549 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: that this is what we can do right now. Yeah. Yeah, 550 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: sometimes it works and Melvin and sometimes it doesn't. Yeah, 551 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: it depends in you know, the bottom line is Cowboys 552 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: need Zeke, you know, there's no question they need Zeke. 553 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean if they've said that, if if you're gonna, 554 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: if you're going to get to where you need to be, 555 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: you need him. Now, let's see what Kellen Moore does. 556 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: Everybody out there who is analytics guys, and I'm not 557 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: an analytics guy. I don't know if anybody in this 558 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: room is an analytics guy. I do know though, that 559 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: with my own eyes, I see what he does for 560 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: this football team. I see how he can affect games. 561 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna see a guy this weekend for the Giants 562 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: that can affect games the way he plays. That's sae 563 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: Quon Barkley. So don't tell me elite players can't make 564 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: a difference in these games. And if you're th out 565 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: there and say, oh well, they could just go on 566 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: and do so. She don't need running backs. It's not important. Okay, fine, 567 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: whatever you whatever you want to say, it's great. But 568 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: we don't know what Kellen Moore is, how Kellen Moore 569 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: is gonna call these games. We really don't. We've watched 570 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: thirty practices, we've seen four preseason games. Might have a 571 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: little a bit of an idea, but Kelly Moore might 572 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: say Okay, we're gonna be very very play action heavy. 573 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna be very much try and throw 574 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: the football and first down and stuff so which we 575 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: haven't seen before. So to me, you know, if you 576 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: sit there, oh, they can live without the running back. 577 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: What you know, that's that's that's just not accurate. That 578 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: is just not This team needs this running bay win 579 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: six games without him in twenty seventeen and it was 580 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: a challenge. Man, those I think that what they lose 581 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: and then and everybody argue. Everyone will say, oh, he 582 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: only averages five yards to carry. You can throw the 583 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: ball again eight yards to pass. You know, it's it's 584 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 1: it's it's on and on and on. I'm not an 585 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: analytics guy. And folks, if you're out there and you 586 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: love analytics, good congratulations, But also look at the eye test. 587 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: Just sit down and just watch the damn game. Who 588 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: said that, By the way, somebody said that we well 589 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: before you. Okay, I'm just telling you though, that that's 590 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: where it's right, that's where that's where this this guy 591 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: accounts for two thousand yards of your offense, no question, Jo, 592 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: go try and replace that. Yeah. I love Tony Pollard. 593 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm glad they have him, But don't go try and 594 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: replace two thousand yards. Go out and try and replace 595 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: a guy that could blitz pick up and guy could 596 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: catch the screen and go sixty yards. You know, that's 597 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: my eyes. That's my eyes. 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I was looking to 658 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: see if you had any of their built, so maybe 659 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: to get black dot com and get your sixty five 660 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: dollars purchase in by eleven fifty nine tonight. At the 661 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: same time they announced Zeke. That's right, fifty nine tonight 662 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: could be joy. Epstein tweeted if Ezekiel, if Ezekiel Elliot 663 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: hold out ends today, there will be something wonderfully biblical 664 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: about the cowboys running back, wandering and hold out wilderness 665 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: for forty days in forty nine. Hasn't been forty days. 666 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: I guess it's been forty days and forty nine. Good job, 667 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: there you go. You know, we haven't had an opportunity. 668 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: As we've talked about Zeke a lot and LC a 669 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: lot over the first half hour of this edition of 670 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. We haven't talked about the fact number one, 671 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: we are going to be in this time slot eleven 672 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: am Central Time throughout the season, followed immediately by the 673 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: break right, absolutely eleven forty five. Okay, so keep that 674 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,720 Speaker 1: in mind as we go forward throughout this a regular season. 675 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: We also haven't had an opportunity to talk about what 676 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 1: happened over the weekend, which is this roster got put together. 677 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, take that takes. It takes all around on 678 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: what happened as this roster got or is getting finalized 679 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: at three o'clock this afternoon. I don't think there were 680 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: really many surprises at all, and I think a lot 681 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: of it has to do with just the depth on 682 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: the team. You kind of had a feeling, give or 683 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: take a couple of spots who was gonna make it, 684 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: and you know guys that probably would have made it anyway, 685 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: or on injured reserve or on pup like a Noah Brown. 686 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: So it kind of sorted things out that way. I mean, 687 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: it's there was not a whole lot of suspense. I 688 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: think there was maybe more suspense on who was going 689 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: to make the practice squad after guy's cleared waiver. I 690 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: didn't see Brandon Night making this team. I'm sorry, Yeah, 691 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: that's right. I just can't. I can't. I can't go there. 692 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: And you know, and and we kind of talked about 693 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: what was going on, the fact they couldn't figure out 694 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: what happened at safety. Yeah, that that was another thing. 695 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: And maybe it had something to do with injury, maybe 696 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: with Cabon Frasier. The fact that they went five and five, 697 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: I think tells you, you know, that they had problems 698 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: figuring out what was going on at safety. Maybe again, 699 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: maybe because of because of Thotovan Wilson's injury, they had 700 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: to carry the extra guy for a for a This 701 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: first couple of weeks might be the case, but I 702 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: didn't see Brandon Knight making the spell. Let's just remember, 703 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: within two weeks, two more guys have to go. So 704 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: Brandon might in the thinking might be somebody might take 705 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: him on a Sunday, But by Friday, your roster's already 706 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: sure fifth finalized for that first game, and if you 707 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: pick him up then you owe him three games on 708 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: the roster, right, so they may be thinking that might 709 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: be a way to get him from the roster to 710 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: the practice squad. Yeah, because I'm agree with you that 711 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: that that might be the only one I was going. 712 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: I was going nine offensive line and they ended up 713 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: with eleven. I mean I was a little surprised. They 714 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: don't have it, they don't have an extra tackle. But 715 00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: it's ten now right? Well, yeah, yeah, recalled I r 716 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: it was a little surprised they cut Jordan Seun running back, 717 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: but then they wound up bringing him back yesterday. So 718 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: how about no love for Mike White, not even for 719 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: the practice squad? For the practice squad? Did someone else 720 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: him not seen it? I mean they lost the Justin Phillips, 721 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: the linebacker to the Oakland Raiders. Did they he went 722 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: to the Raiders practice squad productive? But yeah, he was 723 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: producted the preseason. Did they lose him or did they 724 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: not want to sign him? Well, I'm just saying they 725 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: just want he went he found us no, because if 726 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: the Raiders really wanted him, they could pay him more 727 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: than eight thousand dollars a week. I'm sure I don't 728 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: know what they're paying him, but he's no longer here. 729 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: He's an open that That was my point. Yeah, you 730 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: would have thought that he would have been a Devin 731 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: Smith made the team. We all felt like he earned 732 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: that spot. They cut Cedric Wilson. You know, we thought 733 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: maybe they'd keep six receivers. I mean, there's just there 734 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot of suspense here. Wilson's on the 735 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: practice squad by the way I was. You know, it's 736 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: weird how we always kind of go into this, and 737 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: maybe it's because you're so focused on the team you're 738 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: dealing with, but you're thinking, Okay, there's no way that 739 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna make it through. There's no way this 740 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 1: guy's gonna make it through. There's no way this guy's 741 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: gonna make it through. Heck, every one of their guys 742 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: made it through. That just shows these teams like their 743 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: own guys. Now. I will give Will McClay credit for this, 744 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: though he signed a tight end on the practice squad 745 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: that wasn't here, and he went for the quarterback that 746 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: wasn't here. That to me, is a good thing. If 747 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: you're a team that will sign yeah, if you're a 748 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: team that will sign seven of your own and three 749 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: of somebody else's, that's evaluation right there. That's just not 750 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: being married to Justin Phillips and Mike White and those 751 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: guys like that. Even though justin Phillips, I felt like 752 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: deserved to be on at least on the practice squad here. 753 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 1: You know, well, how about Nate hallt Nate Hall didn't 754 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: make it on the practice squad either, Buffalo Buffalo practice squad. Yeah, 755 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying here, That's what I'm saying here. 756 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: He was, you know, here's there was a there were 757 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: several guys. How about the tight end Cody McElroy. Kind 758 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 1: of thought maybe Cody McElroy might have a chance to develop, 759 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: But no, he didn't make it. He didn't he it 760 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: was it was waived injured. Yeah, he's gonna be Yeah, exactly. 761 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: Jalen Guyden's not on this practice squad. They went out 762 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: and signed Vientel Bryant. Yeah, from what Cincinnati he was 763 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati's camp. I think that had more to do 764 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: with Guyden's understanding of the offense or lack of That's 765 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: kind of the impression that I got that there were Yeah, 766 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: the talent is clearly there. Does he fully get what 767 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: they're doing? That was that was a big question right there. 768 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: So with with Mike White, they basically traded off fifth 769 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: round picks right because the guy they signed was a 770 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: fifth round pick this year by the Eagles, right, And 771 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,399 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that about him. He started fifty three 772 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: consecutive games at Northwest Shore. It did ten record and 773 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: tied to Power Five Conference record for consecutive starts, but 774 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: he didn't make it there, so I think, and so 775 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, we know everything we need to know 776 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: about my White. Let's take a look at this guy. 777 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: We liked him in the draft, and obviously they weren't 778 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: going to pick him because of Mike White being you 779 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: know what, he fell victim too. I think in Philadelphia though, 780 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: is Sudfeld's injury, yes, because they they're keeping Sudfeld, but 781 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: they couldn't have. They couldn't have. Basically they were gonna 782 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: have to keep four quarterbacks if they were going to 783 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: keep their draft pick, because they signed Josh McCown and 784 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: they let Cody Kessler go and so, but Sudfeld does 785 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: not have a season ending injury. He had a broken 786 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: wrist first preseason game, and so you're not keeping four quarterbacks. Absolutely, 787 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: So that credit the Cowboys there again on that one 788 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: is picking up that guy and at least take taking 789 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 1: a good look at him and see what he's got 790 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: and there's something to be said for being a four 791 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: year starter and having that at Northwestern. No matter where 792 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: you're playing, right, there's a there's a track record of 793 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: guys with a lot of snaps in college being able 794 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: to do something. Yeah, some of these guys ended up 795 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: with for two dis injuries too, Like yeah, Noah Brown 796 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: was they wanted to keep them, but they were able 797 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: to keep him on pup And the same thing with 798 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: Jalen Jelks and john Vay Johnson because I bet if 799 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: Johnson wasn't hurt, I don't know if he would have. 800 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: I think I think Johnson might have made the practice 801 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: Johnson had been on the practice squad. They moved on 802 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: from Guyton, right, But yeah, that was clear. But the 803 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: D line kind of got sorted out with injury Daniel 804 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: Ross on injured reserve. You cut Daniel Wise and brought him. 805 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: It's a rotator cuff, right, yes, Ross Ross? Yeah, Yeah, 806 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: So all right, two minute arding goes to both benches. 807 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: Here what you got the final two minutes As we 808 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: look ahead to the rest of this day and the 809 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: Giants coming here this week. I like the fact that 810 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: everybody practiced that was supposed to practice Yester, all the 811 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,959 Speaker 1: guys you thought of. It was nice to see Zack 812 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: Martin out there, Tyren Smith out there. Uh, you know, 813 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see how they incorporate 814 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 1: Byron Jones and Byron Jones was running with the twos. 815 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: That mean Anthony Brown if they go the way that, 816 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: if they go a week that way, then likely, uh, 817 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown could be your starter right cornerback with uh 818 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: with across from a woozy les Dan. Don't you think 819 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: that's smart for the guy coming off the hip and 820 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: haven't been able to do that much. Oh, No, it's 821 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: absolutely And you know, and we might get a situation 822 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 1: too where we see with with with Barkley being the 823 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: type of player he is was receiver, could we see 824 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: another thing where Jordan Lewis takes that takes that Alvin 825 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: Kamara role. Something to keep an eye on, maybe, you know, 826 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: hint or snoop around see if that's the case at all. 827 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: Anybody else got anything here? No, I was gonna echo 828 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: the wit and the guys that were injured that they 829 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: said would all be ready to go by the start 830 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: of the season. I think ten guys if you include 831 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence and Tyrone Crawford. All those guys were back 832 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 1: practicing yesterday in some form or fashion. Uh, the entire 833 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: offensive line back in order, Sean Lee back out there. 834 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: Um so yeah, I think that Annamari Cooper out absolutely now. 835 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: Didn't do a lot, but it's first practice, you ease 836 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: them in. So I think that was very significant in 837 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: the usterria getting ready for that first game. And now 838 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: we wait some more. Yep, Zeke Watch continues forty days, 839 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 1: forty nights. Will it be a forty first night? And 840 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: one thing that I take out of this edition of 841 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys, we are not messing around right. We'll talk 842 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 1: at you again tomorrow. This has been a production of 843 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.