WEBVTT - The Tudor Dixon Podcast: Understanding Iran's Nuclear Threat with Bryan Dean Wright 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:03.920 Hey, everyone, thanks for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:06.880 We are going to talk Iran today because obviously there's 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.879 so much going on, and I saw this guy out 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:12.000 there in the social media world. I'm like, this guy 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.160 sounds like he knows what he's talking about. So I 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.040 started to do like some internet stalking. I'm just being 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.959 really honest now, and I find out that he does, 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:22.040 so I asked him to come on. His name is 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.239 Brian Dean Wright. You may know him because he is 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.760 the host of The Right Report and he is a 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:31.800 former CIA ops officer. So thanks for joining me today. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.360 It's a pleasure to be internet stocked and be with 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:34.920 you today. 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.720 I'm glad I did because I think you've done such 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:43.360 a great job of breaking everything down. And it's important 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:45.680 because I noticed that you're breaking down some of this, 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:50.519 like these radical Republicans that are out there that are 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.920 spewing this anti Semitism and they're just like causing division 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:55.480 and you're. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:57.920 Just sort of putting them in their place. So tell 0:00:57.960 --> 0:00:59.120 me about that a little bit. 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.520 Well, we have seen this splintering of the MAGA coalition 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.560 as it were, and look, the president want a tremendous 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:08.720 victory at last November with a lot of different kinds 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.120 of people, and we're now seeing that, I think, play 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.160 out in this debate, and unfortunately, we're starting to see 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.080 a lot of really ugly trolls out there that are 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.600 pushing some really terrible stuff. Look, this debate about what 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.480 we should do in Iran, it's incredibly, incredibly complicated, very nuanced. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.520 There's lots of pros and cons to all of it. 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.240 And that's what I'm trying to do with my podcast. 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.080 Hopefully we can do that today with your listeners and 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:34.480 we can have a really good, professional adult conversation because 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:36.400 matters of war and peace should be that. And right 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.200 now online you're just getting a bunch of trolls and 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.960 clickbait or trying to make money, and it really is unbecoming, 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:45.319 not just of those of us that do this work, 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.200 but for the republic. I mean, that's such a cliche 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:49.320 thing to say, don't in a. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.880 Very scary situation to just be throwing this information around it. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.720 I mean, between what we've seen online and what we've 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.600 seen out of even I don't know if you saw 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.160 would be Goldberg thing on the view, but this is 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.120 like a there's a lot of I hate to use 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.720 the word misinformation, but there's a lot of naivete when 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.120 it comes to what Iran really is, and I think 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:14.320 the American people don't realize how serious the situation is. 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.919 And I think there's also some confusion because it's like, hey, 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.400 with the Rock, we were told there were weapons of 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.760 mass destruction and there weren't. So everybody is very, for 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:25.520 lack of a better term, gun shy about this. But 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.960 now we've heard this report that President Trump has been 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.200 in and out of the situation room all day. He 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.640 is looking at having an answer on this in the 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.320 next couple of weeks. So what is your take on that? 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.200 So let's start with this. President Trump has been engaged 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.400 involved with the US government in different ways for over 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.360 twenty years, not just currently as president or when he 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.560 had his first term, but even before that. This man 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.720 is somebody who's been involved and I can't go into details, 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.360 but he has been involved in America's national security for 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.360 a long long time. So he's bringing a sober perspective 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.079 and sometimes a lot of people don't understand. So I'll 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.359 just lead that a little bit mysterious, But the point. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.399 Is it's a little bit mysterious. 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.839 The man cares about this country and he has worked 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:06.320 for it for a long time. So what he's doing 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.840 is he's sitting down with his team and he's looking 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:10.240 at the pros and cons of what we should do 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:14.960 in Iran, especially that Fourtoho facility that of course is 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:16.960 about three hundred and some odd feet below the ground, 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.600 probably holding a lot of centrifugus and potentially some very 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.239 highly enriched uranium that makes no sense of you on 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.120 a peaceful program, all parts of sixty plus percent enrichment. 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.200 So the President is saying, all right, on one hand, 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:29.959 I clearly have run on and made clear to the 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.480 American people for years that Iran should not have a 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:36.960 nuclear weapon. That facility would almost certainly advance that. And oh, 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.920 by the way, Iranian nuclear scientists have said, we have 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:42.640 all of the is like putting the analogy they used 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.920 was making a car. They said, we have all the 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.000 parts to make the car, we just have to decide 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.640 to make it. Okay, Well, this is clearly not a 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.520 civilian program. Exclusively, they're playing there a little bit fast 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:54.520 and loose with their words. 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.480 So the president actually, let me stop you there for 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:56.920 a second. 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.760 A civilian program would be something more like energy, right, 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.000 I think think that's something for those of us who 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:02.360 are not. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.240 In the world of war. Thank you, Okay, all right, 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:06.320 I just wanted to clarify. 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.960 And that's like a three to five percent enrichment. So 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.800 when you look at sixty that's where people are saying, 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:13.080 why would you be at that level? 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:13.720 Is that correct? 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.919 Yeah, thank you for clarifying. So, a civilian nuclear program, 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.200 and there are some more advanced reactors that you can 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.719 get above five percent, but not much beyond that. So 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.720 three to five percent if you want a civilian nuclear 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:28.000 program to produce electricity or something called medical isotopes that 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.440 they will use in medicine, you're not looking for much 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.040 beyond five percent. Yeah, there's some that you might get 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.440 up into the ten twelve percent. Anything beyond that you 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.760 are clearly going towards weapons grade. There's no civilian reason 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.800 to have it. So when you do what Iran is doing, 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:47.480 which is sixty plus percent, they're very clearly going up 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.440 to the line. As CIA director Ratcliff said today, it's 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.560 like a football team going down the field and they're 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:55.520 about the five yard line. They can't credibly claim that 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.240 they're not interested in going into the end zone. They're 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.400 making very clear that that's the direction and they want 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.320 to go. So I think that's the sober part of 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.800 the analysis that we need to understand that President Trump 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.440 appreciates and understands, and he's sitting down with this team 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.440 also knowing I don't want to go into it yet 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.479 now the Middle Eastern War. He said that to the team. 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.040 I know folks on his team who have repeated that 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.240 to me. He's aware. He's also communicating to leaders in 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.640 the Middle East, you know, Arab governments, and saying, this 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.520 is your backyard. What do you want from me? What 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.919 you want from us? So the president has a very 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:26.960 very sober team. He has a very sober mind. He 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.880 cares about this country, and I'm not seeing that really 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.960 reflect that on a lot of social media stuff. It's 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:35.240 just flim flamm And so I really do tip my 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.119 hat to the president. He's doing what he always does, 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:41.559 which is, you know, unlike President Roosevelt, who spoke softly 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.040 and carried a big stick, Trump yells and carries a 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.880 two by four. And so he is ratcheting up some 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.720 of his rhetoric. He's trying to push the Iyatola into 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.880 a deal, you know, and still offering a peace proposal. 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.000 He's said that in fact today, but he's very clearly 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.960 moving assets from the US has Nimitz planes. He said 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.839 very clearly the has got a surrendering step down. He's 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.440 using this mix to try to find a peaceful outcome, 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.240 but always giving himself that option because we have got 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.480 to deal with this nuclear issue. That the Ratians are 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.760 playing fast and lose with their rhetoric. They know what 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.880 they're doing, and so does everybody. Ask Well, it's. 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.080 Interesting because as I'm watching this, you know, you would 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.560 kind of expect the Democrats to come out and be 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:22.440 screaming and yelling this doesn't exist. I think that people 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.000 have gotten caught up on regime change quite a bit 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.200 and thinking that that might be Donald Trump's next step. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.560 And I think he's been fairly clear that's not what 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.359 he's looking at. And I think that's kind of the 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:37.240 that's become the talking point on social media, is the 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:39.159 United States going to go in and try to remove 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.839 a leader and have a regime change again and lead 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.440 to another twenty year war and all of that. But 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.080 I haven't I've been kind of interested that the leaders 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.640 of the Democrat Party whoever, we consider those these days, 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:54.960 but they haven't been really vocal saying no, no, there's 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.040 no nuclear possibilities there. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.520 Yeah, so they must know something. 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.720 Yeah. Look, the CIA had a closed door session today 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:07.400 classified assessment, talking to our policymakers on the House and 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:10.880 the Senate side about what exactly we know. Additionally, we 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.960 should bring in other intelligence agencies in their assessments. No 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.520 doubt those are being provided this morning and throughout today 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.000 from the Austrians, for example, who say that no, in fact, 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.720 the Iranians do have an advanced nuclear weapons program right now, 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.280 unlike the CIA, which says no, no, they abandoned it 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.760 back in two thousand and three, maybe two thousand and nine. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.360 So there's some division there amongst what intelligence experts have 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.360 to say. And I think that's something else that the 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.440 President said the other day when he was talking about 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.559 somebody who respects very much Tulci Gabbert, the Office Director 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.640 of National Intelligence, the OD and I chief saying well, 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.800 I don't care, not necessarily about what she has to say, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.320 but what the intel community has to say, because there 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:52.800 is no the intel there is intelligence of different quality 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.800 and characteristics that I can lean on but it's not 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:57.480 going to be directive. It's not going to tell me 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.960 what to do. And I think that behind closed door, 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.760 you're seeing some Democrats who still have a few functioning 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.360 brain cells, who are saying to the White House, we 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.560 appreciate the nuance here we might not say in public. 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:09.680 And I think that that's why some of them are 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.520 keeping a little bit quiet today. 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.200 And you say that as someone who used to be 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.440 a Democrat twenty years. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.640 Yeah, I was Democrat for twenty years. 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:20.560 I think that's interesting. 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:23.880 And certainly we've seen that on for both parties, where 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.560 it's been you know, my party left me story. But 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.920 right now it seems a lot like Democrats are trying 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.480 to figure out where they stand. And you I believe 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.120 the people you're talking about right now are kind of 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:40.160 the historical Democrat, the more moderate Democrat. And you know, 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.000 we see obviously what's happening in New York City right now, 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.960 where we've got this radical socialist that is openly saying 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.360 he's going to bring socialism to New York and you've 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.599 had Obama's people come out and say this would be catastrophic. 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.880 So it is interesting in this crisis moment to see 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.120 this sort of quietness coming from the party, and like 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.600 you said, people behind the scenes, probably with cooler minds, 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:08.480 saying Okay, this is no longer political games. We are 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:10.960 now in a situation where we have to make a 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.600 true decision. And I think that was sort of a 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:15.960 moment for what you talked about with Tulsea Gabbard. That 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:17.760 was a moment for the media to seize on this 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.080 and say, oh, he's out of step with his cabinet, 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.640 and you have the Director of National Intelligence saying no, 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.560 this isn't the case. You broke that down on social 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.680 media in a unique way where you talked about the 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.600 different levels of intelligence, and I think, like I said, 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.440 as a civilian on the outside, I go, man, they 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:35.319 get intelligence. 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:36.959 That must mean intelligence. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.600 That the definition of the word means, you know, this 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:43.200 is smart stuff, so that must be right. But you're 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.960 you make a great point that you get something. You 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:47.839 have to kind of read between the lines and not 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:51.040 everything is just straightforward and clear. 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:53.680 Well, I will tell you, having done the work of 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.120 intelligence for many, many years, there anytime anyone says, well 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.480 the intelligence says, it just makes me cringe because what 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:03.079 you can say is, look, we have degrees of confidence 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.920 in certain sources that we work with for a certain 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.839 period of time. Some of them are all pointing the 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.040 arrow in one direction that we think Iran does or 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.520 does not have a nuclear program or whatever it may be. 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.880 But maybe we have some contrarian intelligence, or we have 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.040 some sources that we really like and trust to say 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:22.280 the opposite. So that leaves a degree of confidence that 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.280 we can't say it's high. You can only see medium 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.320 or maybe just low. And then in this world of 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.760 artificial intelligence and digital exhaust where you can manipulate truth 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.480 so easily, it's becoming even more difficult to know for 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.040 sure whether not the intelligence that you get is accurate. 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.520 In fact, that is actually played a really surprising role 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:42.120 in the war in Iran over the past five days. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.160 One of the most underreported facts of how Israels managed 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:48.800 to just wipe out Iran's leadership is they send people 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:50.960 into Iran a couple of months ago sort of collecting 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.760 digital exhaust, which is basically like if I wake up 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.360 in the morning and I use my phone and I 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.680 use an alarm, then I go on and check my 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.839 email and send text messages. All that that's creating data 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.760 about who I am. Where I'm scary what I'm sending. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.800 And they did it around all kinds of facilities around 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.600 or on, and they figured out who the raning senior 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.720 leaderships were or military leadership, what time they got to work, 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.520 what time they went to lunch, one time they went 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.720 out to go for a jog. And that's how they 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.240 were able to kill so many of them. Was collecting 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.080 all of this digital intelligence or digital exhaust we all 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.000 leave behind every day. So that's going to think I'd 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.520 be one of the things that is so underappreciated now. 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.640 But I guarantee you the CIA and Pentagon are digging 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:33.959 into about Holy smokes, this going to hit us and 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.760 our leadership too. So the point is the world of 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.760 intelligence trying to understand the decipher what truth and what's not, 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.080 what your vulnerabilities might be. Really, it's not just about 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.800 the intel. It's about judgment and discernment. And that's what 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.920 we're asking President Trump to do as he is doing 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:50.760 and picking up the phone and talking to Arab leaders, 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.160 not just net Yahood Israel. That kind of discernment is 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:55.480 what we're looking for in a commander in chief, and 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:56.160 that's what he's doing. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.160 Well, that's an interesting point that it's not you know, 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.600 I think the most people are saying he's just in 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.480 lockstep with notting Yahoo, but he is talking to the 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.600 entire Middle East. And this is what I keep telling people. 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.440 I'm like, you have to understand when you hear that 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:14.199 they're the world's leading state sponsor of terror. They are 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.199 funding all of these groups. And the reason they were 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.800 able to fund these to a higher level is really 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.640 if you look at what Joe Biden's administration did. They 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.760 took off those sanctions, they allowed that money to be 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:29.160 released to them. Once Iran has money. People don't understand 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.640 the country is so much different than the United States. 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.319 They're not helping the people, they're not feeding the poor. 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.520 It's not like there's no charity there. They are funding terror. 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.640 So when you see Hamas and has a lot of 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.600 these groups they are going in and they are being 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.000 funded by Iran. And that's why the whole Middle East 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:51.640 actually has a vested interest in seeing this go a 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:52.439 certain direction. 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.000 Yeah, let me just underline that for US. A couple 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.200 of months ago, United Kingdom they arrested a terror cell 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:03.160 for Iranian nationals who pretended to be migrants crossing the 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.839 English channel as illegal aliens they crossed over, they set 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.360 up a sell and there were hours away from bombing 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:13.040 UK targets to include the Israeli embassy in London. So 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:18.040 that is how the Iranian regime operates. They're very, very savvy. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.600 They use sabotage teams, which, just to pause for a moment, 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.360 oh nine million illegals across our southern border. Might there 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.640 have been a few sabotage teams in that group. So 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:32.200 the point is Iran is a very very aggressive country. 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.360 They used terror. They have done so for decades since 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.800 their revolution in nineteen seventy eight. They've had a couple 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.120 of very key foreign policy goals. One is destroying Israel. 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.120 The second is destroying America. So we know that is 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:45.040 true as well. 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.920 Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:53.920 a Tutor Dixon podcast. Is something that I've been talking 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.960 about as I've been traveling around Michigan is all of 0:13:57.000 --> 0:13:59.640 these things that you hear the President talking about the 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:04.160 whole America First concept, they all intertwine and you brought. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.000 Up all of the people that have crossed our borders. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.199 And I've been trying to explain this to people. I'm like, Look, 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.400 he has to make sure that we are safe, that 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.160 people in the Middle East are safe, and that we 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.560 are safe from Iran, because we had an open door 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.000 for four years, an open door that was not vetting anyone. 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:21.680 And while they told. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.440 You that that was nice, I don't know if these 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.240 people were useful idiots or what the plan was there 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.080 that they were just late letting the door go wide open. 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.080 And I say that because an administration is not just 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.080 a president, it is so many advisors, so many people 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.440 who said, yeah, leave the doors open, knowing. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:39.240 That things like this happen. 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.360 And I've said to them, you have no idea how 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.840 many bad guys came across. I hadn't heard that story 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:47.080 about the UK. That is what could happen here in 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.120 the United States precisely. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.960 Look, it is so self evident, and it was over 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.800 the past four years. And folks like yourself and myself 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.680 and others who could just use common sense and say 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.000 that even atzer point one percent of the nine plus 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.280 million are the bad guys, that's a lot of bad guys. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.280 It only took nineteen to bring down a bunch of 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.560 beautiful buildings of ours in New York and Washington, DC 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.600 and in the field of Pennsylvania back in nine to eleven. 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.520 So it's a very real threat. Yes, you're absolutely right. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.280 It happened a couple of months ago in the UK. 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.520 We almost came very very close to a lot of 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.160 folks being there, and so this is a very important 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.200 threat when we have to start thinking about this stuff abroad. 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.040 But it's also important I want to just to honor 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.320 something that you said. There are a lot of people 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.840 out there, especially and I would say our generation and 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.240 young men especially, who have had to fight these warriors 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.320 who are now in their thirties and forties and are 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.840 looking to yet another Middle Eastern possible conflict, and they're like, oh, 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:39.760 wait a minute, I'm losing an arm, I've already lost, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.560 I've lost a leg, I've lost my mind because PTSD, 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.080 I'm not sending my son over there. I am not 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:47.680 doing this again. So I think it's very very fair 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.000 for the American people to say we've done foreign entanglements 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:56.080 for twenty twenty five years, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, beyond 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:00.480 no more. That's fair and that's what President Trump, Commander 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.080 Chief has to demonstrate to the American people that I 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.600 know the past, but we have today and we have 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.600 a future, and we have to tackle this threat as 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.520 much as the past that may advise us not to that. 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.960 You said, good reachable people can still say no, we shouldn't. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.200 Yeah, but you make such a good point because our 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:20.800 generation people leapt into service. They just as soon as 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:24.000 nine to eleven happened, they were like, absolutely, sign me up. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.880 And we had not We had our parents had seen Vietnam. 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.200 We had not seen Vietnam, so we had not really 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:34.680 seen a significant war. And there was this patriotism of 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.080 I've got to protect the United States. I'm going to 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.960 step in, and that war was never ending, and then 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.440 the way it did end was so traumatic. And you 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.640 make the point that the military today is not what 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:50.920 it was, certainly not what it was years in years past. 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.160 I mean now we are wounded from what we've sent 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:59.240 to Ukraine. We are looking at this situation with fewer recruits, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.440 roots that are out of shape. We've had a struggle 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.560 to morale was at an all time low and Donald 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.439 Trump took office. We've struggled to recruit people into the military. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.840 And then you see you have this. 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.760 Military parade to celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:19.840 of the birth of our US Armed forces, and you 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:24.480 have a public shaming of that. It's like you have 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:29.840 to have you have to honor your military, might you 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.919 have to honor the people who put their lives on 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:32.480 the line. 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.200 Well, celebrating two hundred and fifty years ago, the fact 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.000 that this country wouldn't exist without the army, right, that's 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.200 certainly something to celebrate. You know, look that the data 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.520 show that this country has a serious problem with patriotism. 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.639 It's still pretty strong within the Republicans and independence, so 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.520 when you start getting left, it's gone. So yeah, that factors, 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.360 I think into you know, can you rally a nation 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.400 around a cause when so many people in this country 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.200 hate it and so many country folks in this country 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.840 hate our founders in call our history read you know, 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:02.840 white supremacy and all the rest of it. It's just 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.160 really absurd. We lived in a tough time, so yeah, 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.520 it's when you're going to go to war or the 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:10.240 potential of it, you've got to make the case. But 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.520 you got to have an American people who believe that 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.240 this country and its values are worth fighting for. And 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:16.760 we have a lot of folks who don't. 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.879 I think you recently referenced maybe it was Gavin Newsom 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.600 saying something about America not being great, and it reminded 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:25.600 me of do you remember that show the Newsroom when 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.800 they did at the beginning of the Newsroom, they came 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.119 out and this woman or they asked the question, like, 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.320 what's the greatest country? And this girl says America, and 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.040 then he goes on this long rant about why America 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.679 is not the greatest country. And this was just lauded 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:42.560 as like this amazing monologue. This was like something that 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.000