Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, thanks for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.
Speaker 1: We are going to talk Iran today because obviously there's
Speaker 1: so much going on, and I saw this guy out
Speaker 1: there in the social media world. I'm like, this guy
Speaker 1: sounds like he knows what he's talking about. So I
Speaker 1: started to do like some internet stalking. I'm just being
Speaker 1: really honest now, and I find out that he does,
Speaker 1: so I asked him to come on. His name is
Speaker 1: Brian Dean Wright. You may know him because he is
Speaker 1: the host of The Right Report and he is a
Speaker 1: former CIA ops officer. So thanks for joining me today.
Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to be internet stocked and be with
Speaker 2: you today.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I did because I think you've done such
Speaker 1: a great job of breaking everything down. And it's important
Speaker 1: because I noticed that you're breaking down some of this,
Speaker 1: like these radical Republicans that are out there that are
Speaker 1: spewing this anti Semitism and they're just like causing division
Speaker 1: and you're.
Speaker 3: Just sort of putting them in their place. So tell
Speaker 3: me about that a little bit.
Speaker 2: Well, we have seen this splintering of the MAGA coalition
Speaker 2: as it were, and look, the president want a tremendous
Speaker 2: victory at last November with a lot of different kinds
Speaker 2: of people, and we're now seeing that, I think, play
Speaker 2: out in this debate, and unfortunately, we're starting to see
Speaker 2: a lot of really ugly trolls out there that are
Speaker 2: pushing some really terrible stuff. Look, this debate about what
Speaker 2: we should do in Iran, it's incredibly, incredibly complicated, very nuanced.
Speaker 2: There's lots of pros and cons to all of it.
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm trying to do with my podcast.
Speaker 2: Hopefully we can do that today with your listeners and
Speaker 2: we can have a really good, professional adult conversation because
Speaker 2: matters of war and peace should be that. And right
Speaker 2: now online you're just getting a bunch of trolls and
Speaker 2: clickbait or trying to make money, and it really is unbecoming,
Speaker 2: not just of those of us that do this work,
Speaker 2: but for the republic. I mean, that's such a cliche
Speaker 2: thing to say, don't in a.
Speaker 1: Very scary situation to just be throwing this information around it.
Speaker 1: I mean, between what we've seen online and what we've
Speaker 1: seen out of even I don't know if you saw
Speaker 1: would be Goldberg thing on the view, but this is
Speaker 1: like a there's a lot of I hate to use
Speaker 1: the word misinformation, but there's a lot of naivete when
Speaker 1: it comes to what Iran really is, and I think
Speaker 1: the American people don't realize how serious the situation is.
Speaker 1: And I think there's also some confusion because it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: with the Rock, we were told there were weapons of
Speaker 1: mass destruction and there weren't. So everybody is very, for
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, gun shy about this. But
Speaker 1: now we've heard this report that President Trump has been
Speaker 1: in and out of the situation room all day. He
Speaker 1: is looking at having an answer on this in the
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. So what is your take on that?
Speaker 2: So let's start with this. President Trump has been engaged
Speaker 2: involved with the US government in different ways for over
Speaker 2: twenty years, not just currently as president or when he
Speaker 2: had his first term, but even before that. This man
Speaker 2: is somebody who's been involved and I can't go into details,
Speaker 2: but he has been involved in America's national security for
Speaker 2: a long long time. So he's bringing a sober perspective
Speaker 2: and sometimes a lot of people don't understand. So I'll
Speaker 2: just lead that a little bit mysterious, But the point.
Speaker 3: Is it's a little bit mysterious.
Speaker 2: The man cares about this country and he has worked
Speaker 2: for it for a long time. So what he's doing
Speaker 2: is he's sitting down with his team and he's looking
Speaker 2: at the pros and cons of what we should do
Speaker 2: in Iran, especially that Fourtoho facility that of course is
Speaker 2: about three hundred and some odd feet below the ground,
Speaker 2: probably holding a lot of centrifugus and potentially some very
Speaker 2: highly enriched uranium that makes no sense of you on
Speaker 2: a peaceful program, all parts of sixty plus percent enrichment.
Speaker 2: So the President is saying, all right, on one hand,
Speaker 2: I clearly have run on and made clear to the
Speaker 2: American people for years that Iran should not have a
Speaker 2: nuclear weapon. That facility would almost certainly advance that. And oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, Iranian nuclear scientists have said, we have
Speaker 2: all of the is like putting the analogy they used
Speaker 2: was making a car. They said, we have all the
Speaker 2: parts to make the car, we just have to decide
Speaker 2: to make it. Okay, Well, this is clearly not a
Speaker 2: civilian program. Exclusively, they're playing there a little bit fast
Speaker 2: and loose with their words.
Speaker 3: So the president actually, let me stop you there for
Speaker 3: a second.
Speaker 1: A civilian program would be something more like energy, right,
Speaker 1: I think think that's something for those of us who
Speaker 1: are not.
Speaker 3: In the world of war. Thank you, Okay, all right,
Speaker 3: I just wanted to clarify.
Speaker 1: And that's like a three to five percent enrichment. So
Speaker 1: when you look at sixty that's where people are saying,
Speaker 1: why would you be at that level?
Speaker 3: Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for clarifying. So, a civilian nuclear program,
Speaker 2: and there are some more advanced reactors that you can
Speaker 2: get above five percent, but not much beyond that. So
Speaker 2: three to five percent if you want a civilian nuclear
Speaker 2: program to produce electricity or something called medical isotopes that
Speaker 2: they will use in medicine, you're not looking for much
Speaker 2: beyond five percent. Yeah, there's some that you might get
Speaker 2: up into the ten twelve percent. Anything beyond that you
Speaker 2: are clearly going towards weapons grade. There's no civilian reason
Speaker 2: to have it. So when you do what Iran is doing,
Speaker 2: which is sixty plus percent, they're very clearly going up
Speaker 2: to the line. As CIA director Ratcliff said today, it's
Speaker 2: like a football team going down the field and they're
Speaker 2: about the five yard line. They can't credibly claim that
Speaker 2: they're not interested in going into the end zone. They're
Speaker 2: making very clear that that's the direction and they want
Speaker 2: to go. So I think that's the sober part of
Speaker 2: the analysis that we need to understand that President Trump
Speaker 2: appreciates and understands, and he's sitting down with this team
Speaker 2: also knowing I don't want to go into it yet
Speaker 2: now the Middle Eastern War. He said that to the team.
Speaker 2: I know folks on his team who have repeated that
Speaker 2: to me. He's aware. He's also communicating to leaders in
Speaker 2: the Middle East, you know, Arab governments, and saying, this
Speaker 2: is your backyard. What do you want from me? What
Speaker 2: you want from us? So the president has a very
Speaker 2: very sober team. He has a very sober mind. He
Speaker 2: cares about this country, and I'm not seeing that really
Speaker 2: reflect that on a lot of social media stuff. It's
Speaker 2: just flim flamm And so I really do tip my
Speaker 2: hat to the president. He's doing what he always does,
Speaker 2: which is, you know, unlike President Roosevelt, who spoke softly
Speaker 2: and carried a big stick, Trump yells and carries a
Speaker 2: two by four. And so he is ratcheting up some
Speaker 2: of his rhetoric. He's trying to push the Iyatola into
Speaker 2: a deal, you know, and still offering a peace proposal.
Speaker 2: He's said that in fact today, but he's very clearly
Speaker 2: moving assets from the US has Nimitz planes. He said
Speaker 2: very clearly the has got a surrendering step down. He's
Speaker 2: using this mix to try to find a peaceful outcome,
Speaker 2: but always giving himself that option because we have got
Speaker 2: to deal with this nuclear issue. That the Ratians are
Speaker 2: playing fast and lose with their rhetoric. They know what
Speaker 2: they're doing, and so does everybody. Ask Well, it's.
Speaker 1: Interesting because as I'm watching this, you know, you would
Speaker 1: kind of expect the Democrats to come out and be
Speaker 1: screaming and yelling this doesn't exist. I think that people
Speaker 1: have gotten caught up on regime change quite a bit
Speaker 1: and thinking that that might be Donald Trump's next step.
Speaker 1: And I think he's been fairly clear that's not what
Speaker 1: he's looking at. And I think that's kind of the
Speaker 1: that's become the talking point on social media, is the
Speaker 1: United States going to go in and try to remove
Speaker 1: a leader and have a regime change again and lead
Speaker 1: to another twenty year war and all of that. But
Speaker 1: I haven't I've been kind of interested that the leaders
Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party whoever, we consider those these days,
Speaker 1: but they haven't been really vocal saying no, no, there's
Speaker 1: no nuclear possibilities there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they must know something.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, the CIA had a closed door session today
Speaker 2: classified assessment, talking to our policymakers on the House and
Speaker 2: the Senate side about what exactly we know. Additionally, we
Speaker 2: should bring in other intelligence agencies in their assessments. No
Speaker 2: doubt those are being provided this morning and throughout today
Speaker 2: from the Austrians, for example, who say that no, in fact,
Speaker 2: the Iranians do have an advanced nuclear weapons program right now,
Speaker 2: unlike the CIA, which says no, no, they abandoned it
Speaker 2: back in two thousand and three, maybe two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2: So there's some division there amongst what intelligence experts have
Speaker 2: to say. And I think that's something else that the
Speaker 2: President said the other day when he was talking about
Speaker 2: somebody who respects very much Tulci Gabbert, the Office Director
Speaker 2: of National Intelligence, the OD and I chief saying well,
Speaker 2: I don't care, not necessarily about what she has to say,
Speaker 2: but what the intel community has to say, because there
Speaker 2: is no the intel there is intelligence of different quality
Speaker 2: and characteristics that I can lean on but it's not
Speaker 2: going to be directive. It's not going to tell me
Speaker 2: what to do. And I think that behind closed door,
Speaker 2: you're seeing some Democrats who still have a few functioning
Speaker 2: brain cells, who are saying to the White House, we
Speaker 2: appreciate the nuance here we might not say in public.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's why some of them are
Speaker 2: keeping a little bit quiet today.
Speaker 1: And you say that as someone who used to be
Speaker 1: a Democrat twenty years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was Democrat for twenty years.
Speaker 3: I think that's interesting.
Speaker 1: And certainly we've seen that on for both parties, where
Speaker 1: it's been you know, my party left me story. But
Speaker 1: right now it seems a lot like Democrats are trying
Speaker 1: to figure out where they stand. And you I believe
Speaker 1: the people you're talking about right now are kind of
Speaker 1: the historical Democrat, the more moderate Democrat. And you know,
Speaker 1: we see obviously what's happening in New York City right now,
Speaker 1: where we've got this radical socialist that is openly saying
Speaker 1: he's going to bring socialism to New York and you've
Speaker 1: had Obama's people come out and say this would be catastrophic.
Speaker 1: So it is interesting in this crisis moment to see
Speaker 1: this sort of quietness coming from the party, and like
Speaker 1: you said, people behind the scenes, probably with cooler minds,
Speaker 1: saying Okay, this is no longer political games. We are
Speaker 1: now in a situation where we have to make a
Speaker 1: true decision. And I think that was sort of a
Speaker 1: moment for what you talked about with Tulsea Gabbard. That
Speaker 1: was a moment for the media to seize on this
Speaker 1: and say, oh, he's out of step with his cabinet,
Speaker 1: and you have the Director of National Intelligence saying no,
Speaker 1: this isn't the case. You broke that down on social
Speaker 1: media in a unique way where you talked about the
Speaker 1: different levels of intelligence, and I think, like I said,
Speaker 1: as a civilian on the outside, I go, man, they
Speaker 1: get intelligence.
Speaker 3: That must mean intelligence.
Speaker 1: That the definition of the word means, you know, this
Speaker 1: is smart stuff, so that must be right. But you're
Speaker 1: you make a great point that you get something. You
Speaker 1: have to kind of read between the lines and not
Speaker 1: everything is just straightforward and clear.
Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you, having done the work of
Speaker 2: intelligence for many, many years, there anytime anyone says, well
Speaker 2: the intelligence says, it just makes me cringe because what
Speaker 2: you can say is, look, we have degrees of confidence
Speaker 2: in certain sources that we work with for a certain
Speaker 2: period of time. Some of them are all pointing the
Speaker 2: arrow in one direction that we think Iran does or
Speaker 2: does not have a nuclear program or whatever it may be.
Speaker 2: But maybe we have some contrarian intelligence, or we have
Speaker 2: some sources that we really like and trust to say
Speaker 2: the opposite. So that leaves a degree of confidence that
Speaker 2: we can't say it's high. You can only see medium
Speaker 2: or maybe just low. And then in this world of
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence and digital exhaust where you can manipulate truth
Speaker 2: so easily, it's becoming even more difficult to know for
Speaker 2: sure whether not the intelligence that you get is accurate.
Speaker 2: In fact, that is actually played a really surprising role
Speaker 2: in the war in Iran over the past five days.
Speaker 2: One of the most underreported facts of how Israels managed
Speaker 2: to just wipe out Iran's leadership is they send people
Speaker 2: into Iran a couple of months ago sort of collecting
Speaker 2: digital exhaust, which is basically like if I wake up
Speaker 2: in the morning and I use my phone and I
Speaker 2: use an alarm, then I go on and check my
Speaker 2: email and send text messages. All that that's creating data
Speaker 2: about who I am. Where I'm scary what I'm sending.
Speaker 2: And they did it around all kinds of facilities around
Speaker 2: or on, and they figured out who the raning senior
Speaker 2: leaderships were or military leadership, what time they got to work,
Speaker 2: what time they went to lunch, one time they went
Speaker 2: out to go for a jog. And that's how they
Speaker 2: were able to kill so many of them. Was collecting
Speaker 2: all of this digital intelligence or digital exhaust we all
Speaker 2: leave behind every day. So that's going to think I'd
Speaker 2: be one of the things that is so underappreciated now.
Speaker 2: But I guarantee you the CIA and Pentagon are digging
Speaker 2: into about Holy smokes, this going to hit us and
Speaker 2: our leadership too. So the point is the world of
Speaker 2: intelligence trying to understand the decipher what truth and what's not,
Speaker 2: what your vulnerabilities might be. Really, it's not just about
Speaker 2: the intel. It's about judgment and discernment. And that's what
Speaker 2: we're asking President Trump to do as he is doing
Speaker 2: and picking up the phone and talking to Arab leaders,
Speaker 2: not just net Yahood Israel. That kind of discernment is
Speaker 2: what we're looking for in a commander in chief, and
Speaker 2: that's what he's doing.
Speaker 1: Well, that's an interesting point that it's not you know,
Speaker 1: I think the most people are saying he's just in
Speaker 1: lockstep with notting Yahoo, but he is talking to the
Speaker 1: entire Middle East. And this is what I keep telling people.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you have to understand when you hear that
Speaker 1: they're the world's leading state sponsor of terror. They are
Speaker 1: funding all of these groups. And the reason they were
Speaker 1: able to fund these to a higher level is really
Speaker 1: if you look at what Joe Biden's administration did. They
Speaker 1: took off those sanctions, they allowed that money to be
Speaker 1: released to them. Once Iran has money. People don't understand
Speaker 1: the country is so much different than the United States.
Speaker 1: They're not helping the people, they're not feeding the poor.
Speaker 1: It's not like there's no charity there. They are funding terror.
Speaker 1: So when you see Hamas and has a lot of
Speaker 1: these groups they are going in and they are being
Speaker 1: funded by Iran. And that's why the whole Middle East
Speaker 1: actually has a vested interest in seeing this go a
Speaker 1: certain direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me just underline that for US. A couple
Speaker 2: of months ago, United Kingdom they arrested a terror cell
Speaker 2: for Iranian nationals who pretended to be migrants crossing the
Speaker 2: English channel as illegal aliens they crossed over, they set
Speaker 2: up a sell and there were hours away from bombing
Speaker 2: UK targets to include the Israeli embassy in London. So
Speaker 2: that is how the Iranian regime operates. They're very, very savvy.
Speaker 2: They use sabotage teams, which, just to pause for a moment,
Speaker 2: oh nine million illegals across our southern border. Might there
Speaker 2: have been a few sabotage teams in that group. So
Speaker 2: the point is Iran is a very very aggressive country.
Speaker 2: They used terror. They have done so for decades since
Speaker 2: their revolution in nineteen seventy eight. They've had a couple
Speaker 2: of very key foreign policy goals. One is destroying Israel.
Speaker 2: The second is destroying America. So we know that is
Speaker 2: true as well.
Speaker 3: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
Speaker 3: a Tutor Dixon podcast. Is something that I've been talking
Speaker 3: about as I've been traveling around Michigan is all of
Speaker 3: these things that you hear the President talking about the
Speaker 3: whole America First concept, they all intertwine and you brought.
Speaker 1: Up all of the people that have crossed our borders.
Speaker 1: And I've been trying to explain this to people. I'm like, Look,
Speaker 1: he has to make sure that we are safe, that
Speaker 1: people in the Middle East are safe, and that we
Speaker 1: are safe from Iran, because we had an open door
Speaker 1: for four years, an open door that was not vetting anyone.
Speaker 3: And while they told.
Speaker 1: You that that was nice, I don't know if these
Speaker 1: people were useful idiots or what the plan was there
Speaker 1: that they were just late letting the door go wide open.
Speaker 1: And I say that because an administration is not just
Speaker 1: a president, it is so many advisors, so many people
Speaker 1: who said, yeah, leave the doors open, knowing.
Speaker 3: That things like this happen.
Speaker 1: And I've said to them, you have no idea how
Speaker 1: many bad guys came across. I hadn't heard that story
Speaker 1: about the UK. That is what could happen here in
Speaker 1: the United States precisely.
Speaker 2: Look, it is so self evident, and it was over
Speaker 2: the past four years. And folks like yourself and myself
Speaker 2: and others who could just use common sense and say
Speaker 2: that even atzer point one percent of the nine plus
Speaker 2: million are the bad guys, that's a lot of bad guys.
Speaker 2: It only took nineteen to bring down a bunch of
Speaker 2: beautiful buildings of ours in New York and Washington, DC
Speaker 2: and in the field of Pennsylvania back in nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: So it's a very real threat. Yes, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: It happened a couple of months ago in the UK.
Speaker 2: We almost came very very close to a lot of
Speaker 2: folks being there, and so this is a very important
Speaker 2: threat when we have to start thinking about this stuff abroad.
Speaker 2: But it's also important I want to just to honor
Speaker 2: something that you said. There are a lot of people
Speaker 2: out there, especially and I would say our generation and
Speaker 2: young men especially, who have had to fight these warriors
Speaker 2: who are now in their thirties and forties and are
Speaker 2: looking to yet another Middle Eastern possible conflict, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I'm losing an arm, I've already lost,
Speaker 2: I've lost a leg, I've lost my mind because PTSD,
Speaker 2: I'm not sending my son over there. I am not
Speaker 2: doing this again. So I think it's very very fair
Speaker 2: for the American people to say we've done foreign entanglements
Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five years, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, beyond
Speaker 2: no more. That's fair and that's what President Trump, Commander
Speaker 2: Chief has to demonstrate to the American people that I
Speaker 2: know the past, but we have today and we have
Speaker 2: a future, and we have to tackle this threat as
Speaker 2: much as the past that may advise us not to that.
Speaker 2: You said, good reachable people can still say no, we shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you make such a good point because our
Speaker 1: generation people leapt into service. They just as soon as
Speaker 1: nine to eleven happened, they were like, absolutely, sign me up.
Speaker 1: And we had not We had our parents had seen Vietnam.
Speaker 1: We had not seen Vietnam, so we had not really
Speaker 1: seen a significant war. And there was this patriotism of
Speaker 1: I've got to protect the United States. I'm going to
Speaker 1: step in, and that war was never ending, and then
Speaker 1: the way it did end was so traumatic. And you
Speaker 1: make the point that the military today is not what
Speaker 1: it was, certainly not what it was years in years past.
Speaker 1: I mean now we are wounded from what we've sent
Speaker 1: to Ukraine. We are looking at this situation with fewer recruits,
Speaker 1: roots that are out of shape. We've had a struggle
Speaker 1: to morale was at an all time low and Donald
Speaker 1: Trump took office. We've struggled to recruit people into the military.
Speaker 3: And then you see you have this.
Speaker 1: Military parade to celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary
Speaker 1: of the birth of our US Armed forces, and you
Speaker 1: have a public shaming of that. It's like you have
Speaker 1: to have you have to honor your military, might you
Speaker 1: have to honor the people who put their lives on
Speaker 1: the line.
Speaker 2: Well, celebrating two hundred and fifty years ago, the fact
Speaker 2: that this country wouldn't exist without the army, right, that's
Speaker 2: certainly something to celebrate. You know, look that the data
Speaker 2: show that this country has a serious problem with patriotism.
Speaker 2: It's still pretty strong within the Republicans and independence, so
Speaker 2: when you start getting left, it's gone. So yeah, that factors,
Speaker 2: I think into you know, can you rally a nation
Speaker 2: around a cause when so many people in this country
Speaker 2: hate it and so many country folks in this country
Speaker 2: hate our founders in call our history read you know,
Speaker 2: white supremacy and all the rest of it. It's just
Speaker 2: really absurd. We lived in a tough time, so yeah,
Speaker 2: it's when you're going to go to war or the
Speaker 2: potential of it, you've got to make the case. But
Speaker 2: you got to have an American people who believe that
Speaker 2: this country and its values are worth fighting for. And
Speaker 2: we have a lot of folks who don't.
Speaker 1: I think you recently referenced maybe it was Gavin Newsom
Speaker 1: saying something about America not being great, and it reminded
Speaker 1: me of do you remember that show the Newsroom when
Speaker 1: they did at the beginning of the Newsroom, they came
Speaker 1: out and this woman or they asked the question, like,
Speaker 1: what's the greatest country? And this girl says America, and
Speaker 1: then he goes on this long rant about why America
Speaker 1: is not the greatest country. And this was just lauded
Speaker 1: as like this amazing monologue. This was like something that
Speaker 1: college students should listen to because it was so incredible.
Speaker 3: And it was the worst thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So why did nine million plus people come
Speaker 2: under Joe Biden? Why do they try to flood into
Speaker 2: this awful, disgusting nation if it's really that on?
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, very good point.
Speaker 2: So look, yeah, there are governors Gavin Newsom has said this.
Speaker 2: We also have a governor, a former governor Cuomo of
Speaker 2: New York who said America is not going to be
Speaker 2: great because it's never been that great. This is a
Speaker 2: very consistent message by Democrats in this country. They hate it,
Speaker 2: they think it's awful. They make that case more than
Speaker 2: you know. We are an imperfect union and we've got
Speaker 2: work to do, but it's a pretty darn good place
Speaker 2: and I am so glad to be here. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to be in Iran. I wouldn't want to be
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: But but okay, so that's you have Woopy Goldberg who
Speaker 1: comes out and says that Iran living in Iran is
Speaker 1: the equivalent of black people living in the United States.
Speaker 1: And people were like, oh, we can't say anything about this,
Speaker 1: because you know, if you don't know.
Speaker 3: The life, what it's like to live as a black person.
Speaker 1: And I give Alyssa Farres some credit in this because
Speaker 1: she tried to say, gosh, you know, there was a
Speaker 1: time when you could say that that could potentially have
Speaker 1: been true. But today, in twenty twenty five, I don't
Speaker 1: think you understand what happens to people in Iran. And
Speaker 1: I I've studied the country over the past few years,
Speaker 1: and a lot of what was happening. Gosh, it probably
Speaker 1: was in twenty nineteen and twenty eighteen when they were
Speaker 1: murdering the women in the streets for taking off their
Speaker 1: hit job. And you would see young men who, if
Speaker 1: they at all spoke spoke against the government, they were
Speaker 1: hung in the streets. And I think that the American
Speaker 1: people cannot understand that type of oppression and that type
Speaker 1: of fear that the people live in constantly. But Democrats
Speaker 1: will openly say, oh, it's the same. But that's so
Speaker 1: it's not only belittling to the United States. It it's
Speaker 1: so uneducated and it is so manipulative to the American
Speaker 1: people to not understand who you are really dealing with
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 2: You have to have so much wealth or power, so
Speaker 2: much a sort of bourgeois status to sit in your
Speaker 2: Upper East Side Manhattan studio like will Be and look
Speaker 2: down to the people and say, oh, it's so hard
Speaker 2: being me. It's so come on, now, come on now.
Speaker 2: You can't say that in a country that has given
Speaker 2: you so much to then just throw rocks at it
Speaker 2: all the time. You can call it imperfect, and you should.
Speaker 2: The founders did founders acknowledge that, and we all have
Speaker 2: a challenge to make it a more perfect union. So
Speaker 2: there's nothing shocking about it. It's just so wildly disappointing
Speaker 2: and really infuriating to hear folks like will Be Goldberg
Speaker 2: say things like that. When I tell you if she
Speaker 2: were to live in Iran or North Korea or any
Speaker 2: of these China. These places are not nice if you
Speaker 2: like liberty. They're lovely if you like tyranny. But if
Speaker 2: you've traveled abroad, or even if you haven't, you just
Speaker 2: pick up a book in a magazine and you appreciate
Speaker 2: what's going on in some of these countries. You are
Speaker 2: just so grateful that you live here, and why nine
Speaker 2: million people try to come under Joe Biden and did oh?
Speaker 1: I mean so, I met a woman who had been
Speaker 1: taken hostage by the government in Iran, and they had
Speaker 1: these I don't even know how to describe it.
Speaker 3: They had these torture cells where.
Speaker 1: You had to be crouching to be able to sit
Speaker 1: in a cell, and if your head at any point,
Speaker 1: so you had to be sitting on your rear end
Speaker 1: with your knees up and your arms wrapped around your
Speaker 1: knees so and with your head down or else because
Speaker 1: if your head went above the wall, they beat you
Speaker 1: with a cane and people would just be and you.
Speaker 1: And she said she was there for over one hundred days,
Speaker 1: and somehow she got out of that situation. Most people
Speaker 1: didn't live the horrific forms of torture for just saying
Speaker 1: they want freedom. The horrific forms of torture that you
Speaker 1: would as an American, you would if you ever saw
Speaker 1: that in the United States of America, My gosh, it
Speaker 1: would be so foreign to us.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, this also goes back about three months when
Speaker 2: Representative AOC of New York, you know, the illustrious socialist,
Speaker 2: said that Actually I'm going to paraphrase what she said,
Speaker 2: but this is pretty accurate. She said, Look, America may
Speaker 2: be in decline, but because America is so bad in
Speaker 2: so many ways, maybe that client is a good thing.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a good thing, and maybe some of the
Speaker 2: ashes something better it can arise. That's a pretty accurate
Speaker 2: paraphrase of what she said. So that's really the Whoopie Goldberg,
Speaker 2: the AOC, the Democrat. Frankly, the leftist view of this
Speaker 2: country is it's bad, it's irredeemable. It's never been that great,
Speaker 2: so let's tear it down and build something else.
Speaker 3: That is something that I've heard, not just from Democrats.
Speaker 1: And I had a conversation the other night here in
Speaker 1: Michigan with a person on County Commission and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, if we were to bring in some businesses
Speaker 1: into our town that had high paying positions, we would
Speaker 1: our town would be in a much better position because
Speaker 1: they what they've done here is they've brought in a
Speaker 1: bunch of build a bunch of low income housing, and
Speaker 1: then they made the downtown this great area for you
Speaker 1: have a social district that you can walk around and drink,
Speaker 1: and all these new mom and pop restaurants have come
Speaker 1: in that nobody's going to because the reality is that
Speaker 1: when everybody's housing is paid for and there's no jobs,
Speaker 1: they can actually afford to go out to eat. And
Speaker 1: I said, if we were to try to focus on
Speaker 1: bringing in high paying jobs, it would, you know, raise
Speaker 1: a lot of issues. A lot of issues would go
Speaker 1: away because once people can pay for things and you
Speaker 1: have competition, and then other companies have to pay higher wages,
Speaker 1: Like a lot of these questions of whether people can
Speaker 1: buy housing, whether people can go out and eat, whether
Speaker 1: people can spend and you get more sales tax, those
Speaker 1: are taken off the table because you suddenly have competition
Speaker 1: and people are making money. And he was like, we
Speaker 1: don't want people, so what he said, I'm sorry, why
Speaker 1: did you build the downtown the way you did with
Speaker 1: the social district and everything. What do you mean, well,
Speaker 1: we don't want to be like any of these other
Speaker 1: towns that are on the water where people it's just
Speaker 1: for us. And then said we've rezoned so that we
Speaker 1: can have a whole sporting section. I said, well, okay,
Speaker 1: so are these paid programs? Oh? Yeah, the kids can
Speaker 1: come and do this and that. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: who's going.
Speaker 3: To pay for it?
Speaker 1: Like, come on, how did we get to this point
Speaker 1: where we think everything is free and everything should be
Speaker 1: a joyful place where we can go out and drink
Speaker 1: and listen to music, but we're not going to worry
Speaker 1: about working.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a little bizarre. I got to tell you.
Speaker 2: There was some think about the tarf wors, you know,
Speaker 2: in President Trump, you know, trying to recent global relations
Speaker 2: in the US A kondom with tariffs. The BBC interviewed
Speaker 2: a mother and a son in Michigan and they asked
Speaker 2: if they supported it, and their response by the mother
Speaker 2: was so apoignant. She said, you know, I don't know
Speaker 2: if this is going to work out well for us,
Speaker 2: but what I know is nobody else's fighting for us.
Speaker 2: What I know is that our towns aren't sick or
Speaker 2: aren't healthy anymore. We're sick. The son talked about his
Speaker 2: friends who were in their thirties and in their forties,
Speaker 2: who are broken. Something has happened in our lifetime, yours
Speaker 2: in mind, over the past forty some odd years, something horrible,
Speaker 2: I think has happened to a lot of hounds, especially
Speaker 2: out in Michigan, but well beyond the working class. And
Speaker 2: I think that the President, when we think about Iran,
Speaker 2: he knows that a lot of working class kids would
Speaker 2: have to be involved in possible war in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: He's very aware of that, and that's why his reflex
Speaker 2: is to avoid war. So I think that's why he's
Speaker 2: still open to a peace deal with Tearran, even at
Speaker 2: this late hour. And yet he still is resolutely, i think,
Speaker 2: pretty consistently saying, look that the tariffs are about resetting
Speaker 2: this economy for places like you just described. So it's
Speaker 2: not just open to the people in the capitol like
Speaker 2: for some sort of Hollywood movie. We're all the fancy,
Speaker 2: they're rich and the powerful, get all the spoils, and
Speaker 2: everybody else lives out in one of the districts and
Speaker 2: cuts timber or mine's coal. And I think that that
Speaker 2: is what you're speaking about, which is really a disconnect
Speaker 2: between our friends and family that maybe we have wealth,
Speaker 2: but there are a lot of folks who don't, and
Speaker 2: it is not a lovely place if we end up
Speaker 2: the only ones who are wealthy and a lot of
Speaker 2: other folks are down in the gutty. That's just not
Speaker 2: a country you want to be a part of. We
Speaker 2: need a robust middle class, and I think that's part
Speaker 2: of what the present's trying to do with his hair switch. Again,
Speaker 2: we're getting little off topic, but the point is you're
Speaker 2: absolutely right. I think it all ties in together.
Speaker 3: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on
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Speaker 1: You make such a good point about President Trump because
Speaker 1: I think when I mean, if we look back at
Speaker 1: when he was campaigning, people said he's unhinged, you'll never know,
Speaker 1: he can't have the nuclear codes, blah blah blah. But
Speaker 1: what you just said about here, he is taking time
Speaker 1: to really think about this, making a clear decision.
Speaker 3: He's in and out of the situation room.
Speaker 1: There's been discussions of who's been in and out of
Speaker 1: the situation room with him, but he came out and
Speaker 1: he made it very clear, this is a decision we
Speaker 1: will make over time.
Speaker 3: There is no split second decisions. There's no irrational decisions.
Speaker 3: I mean, look at we have.
Speaker 1: I believe that if you look back at the Biden
Speaker 1: administration and how they left Afghanistan, that was an irrational
Speaker 1: decision because it was like, oh, this is the date
Speaker 1: we're out. Doesn't matter if we're prepared, doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: where we have the air force based secure, We're just
Speaker 1: we're just going to blindly adhere to this date without
Speaker 1: any planning. That's not what you're seeing with Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: He's very calculated in making sure that the American people
Speaker 1: are taking care of And it reminds me, honestly, of
Speaker 1: the day he was shot and he stood up and
Speaker 1: he looked out at the crowd and said, keep going.
Speaker 1: You know, fight, fight fight. It wasn't about him. That
Speaker 1: is in your character. You can't fake that. And I
Speaker 1: think you make a great point. Is right now he's
Speaker 1: not faking that. He is making sure he is very
Speaker 1: very clear with the decision that's going to be made. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, he's walking a very fine line, isn't he. He
Speaker 2: knows that the American people and his political base don't
Speaker 2: want war in the Middle East. He also knows, and
Speaker 2: he has run on the fact that we don't need
Speaker 2: more nuclear weapons in this world, and we need fewer
Speaker 2: countries with those weapons. He's been very consistent on that
Speaker 2: as well. He also knows that our military is struggling.
Speaker 2: He knows that we are thirty six trillion dollars in debt.
Speaker 2: He knows that our supply chains rebuild our military or weak.
Speaker 2: He knows that our greatest threat is China. He is
Speaker 2: trying to walk a very clear line here, trying to
Speaker 2: accomplish a lot of very difficult things in one fell swool,
Speaker 2: and it's top. He's in a very top position. So
Speaker 2: rather than to throw an arrow at the guy, actually
Speaker 2: I salute him and I pray for.
Speaker 3: I love that well. I'm glad that it's him.
Speaker 1: I trust that he is working with great people, and
Speaker 1: like you said, it's a very fine line. There's no
Speaker 1: clear answer, and I think prayer is absolutely the right thing.
Speaker 3: You bet well.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for talking with us today. Brian Dean, right,
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