1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, thanks for joining us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: We are going to talk Iran today because obviously there's 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: so much going on, and I saw this guy out 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: there in the social media world. I'm like, this guy 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: sounds like he knows what he's talking about. So I 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: started to do like some internet stalking. I'm just being 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: really honest now, and I find out that he does, 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: so I asked him to come on. His name is 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: Brian Dean Wright. You may know him because he is 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: the host of The Right Report and he is a 11 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: former CIA ops officer. So thanks for joining me today. 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to be internet stocked and be with 13 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: you today. 14 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm glad I did because I think you've done such 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: a great job of breaking everything down. And it's important 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: because I noticed that you're breaking down some of this, 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: like these radical Republicans that are out there that are 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: spewing this anti Semitism and they're just like causing division 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: and you're. 20 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 3: Just sort of putting them in their place. So tell 21 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: me about that a little bit. 22 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: Well, we have seen this splintering of the MAGA coalition 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: as it were, and look, the president want a tremendous 24 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: victory at last November with a lot of different kinds 25 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: of people, and we're now seeing that, I think, play 26 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: out in this debate, and unfortunately, we're starting to see 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: a lot of really ugly trolls out there that are 28 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: pushing some really terrible stuff. Look, this debate about what 29 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: we should do in Iran, it's incredibly, incredibly complicated, very nuanced. 30 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: There's lots of pros and cons to all of it. 31 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: And that's what I'm trying to do with my podcast. 32 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: Hopefully we can do that today with your listeners and 33 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: we can have a really good, professional adult conversation because 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: matters of war and peace should be that. And right 35 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: now online you're just getting a bunch of trolls and 36 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: clickbait or trying to make money, and it really is unbecoming, 37 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: not just of those of us that do this work, 38 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: but for the republic. I mean, that's such a cliche 39 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: thing to say, don't in a. 40 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: Very scary situation to just be throwing this information around it. 41 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: I mean, between what we've seen online and what we've 42 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: seen out of even I don't know if you saw 43 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: would be Goldberg thing on the view, but this is 44 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: like a there's a lot of I hate to use 45 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: the word misinformation, but there's a lot of naivete when 46 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: it comes to what Iran really is, and I think 47 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: the American people don't realize how serious the situation is. 48 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: And I think there's also some confusion because it's like, hey, 49 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: with the Rock, we were told there were weapons of 50 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: mass destruction and there weren't. So everybody is very, for 51 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, gun shy about this. But 52 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: now we've heard this report that President Trump has been 53 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: in and out of the situation room all day. He 54 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: is looking at having an answer on this in the 55 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. So what is your take on that? 56 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: So let's start with this. President Trump has been engaged 57 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: involved with the US government in different ways for over 58 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: twenty years, not just currently as president or when he 59 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: had his first term, but even before that. This man 60 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: is somebody who's been involved and I can't go into details, 61 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: but he has been involved in America's national security for 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: a long long time. So he's bringing a sober perspective 63 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 2: and sometimes a lot of people don't understand. So I'll 64 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: just lead that a little bit mysterious, But the point. 65 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 3: Is it's a little bit mysterious. 66 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 2: The man cares about this country and he has worked 67 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: for it for a long time. So what he's doing 68 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: is he's sitting down with his team and he's looking 69 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: at the pros and cons of what we should do 70 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: in Iran, especially that Fourtoho facility that of course is 71 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: about three hundred and some odd feet below the ground, 72 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: probably holding a lot of centrifugus and potentially some very 73 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 2: highly enriched uranium that makes no sense of you on 74 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: a peaceful program, all parts of sixty plus percent enrichment. 75 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: So the President is saying, all right, on one hand, 76 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 2: I clearly have run on and made clear to the 77 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: American people for years that Iran should not have a 78 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: nuclear weapon. That facility would almost certainly advance that. And oh, 79 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: by the way, Iranian nuclear scientists have said, we have 80 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: all of the is like putting the analogy they used 81 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: was making a car. They said, we have all the 82 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: parts to make the car, we just have to decide 83 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: to make it. Okay, Well, this is clearly not a 84 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: civilian program. Exclusively, they're playing there a little bit fast 85 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: and loose with their words. 86 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: So the president actually, let me stop you there for 87 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: a second. 88 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: A civilian program would be something more like energy, right, 89 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: I think think that's something for those of us who 90 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: are not. 91 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: In the world of war. Thank you, Okay, all right, 92 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: I just wanted to clarify. 93 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: And that's like a three to five percent enrichment. So 94 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: when you look at sixty that's where people are saying, 95 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: why would you be at that level? 96 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: Is that correct? 97 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for clarifying. So, a civilian nuclear program, 98 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: and there are some more advanced reactors that you can 99 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: get above five percent, but not much beyond that. So 100 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: three to five percent if you want a civilian nuclear 101 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: program to produce electricity or something called medical isotopes that 102 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: they will use in medicine, you're not looking for much 103 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: beyond five percent. Yeah, there's some that you might get 104 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: up into the ten twelve percent. Anything beyond that you 105 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: are clearly going towards weapons grade. There's no civilian reason 106 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: to have it. So when you do what Iran is doing, 107 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: which is sixty plus percent, they're very clearly going up 108 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: to the line. As CIA director Ratcliff said today, it's 109 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: like a football team going down the field and they're 110 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: about the five yard line. They can't credibly claim that 111 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: they're not interested in going into the end zone. They're 112 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: making very clear that that's the direction and they want 113 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: to go. So I think that's the sober part of 114 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: the analysis that we need to understand that President Trump 115 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: appreciates and understands, and he's sitting down with this team 116 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: also knowing I don't want to go into it yet 117 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: now the Middle Eastern War. He said that to the team. 118 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: I know folks on his team who have repeated that 119 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: to me. He's aware. He's also communicating to leaders in 120 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: the Middle East, you know, Arab governments, and saying, this 121 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: is your backyard. What do you want from me? What 122 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 2: you want from us? So the president has a very 123 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: very sober team. He has a very sober mind. He 124 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: cares about this country, and I'm not seeing that really 125 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: reflect that on a lot of social media stuff. It's 126 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: just flim flamm And so I really do tip my 127 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 2: hat to the president. He's doing what he always does, 128 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 2: which is, you know, unlike President Roosevelt, who spoke softly 129 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: and carried a big stick, Trump yells and carries a 130 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: two by four. And so he is ratcheting up some 131 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: of his rhetoric. He's trying to push the Iyatola into 132 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: a deal, you know, and still offering a peace proposal. 133 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: He's said that in fact today, but he's very clearly 134 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: moving assets from the US has Nimitz planes. He said 135 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: very clearly the has got a surrendering step down. He's 136 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: using this mix to try to find a peaceful outcome, 137 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: but always giving himself that option because we have got 138 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: to deal with this nuclear issue. That the Ratians are 139 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: playing fast and lose with their rhetoric. They know what 140 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: they're doing, and so does everybody. Ask Well, it's. 141 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: Interesting because as I'm watching this, you know, you would 142 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: kind of expect the Democrats to come out and be 143 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: screaming and yelling this doesn't exist. I think that people 144 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: have gotten caught up on regime change quite a bit 145 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: and thinking that that might be Donald Trump's next step. 146 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: And I think he's been fairly clear that's not what 147 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: he's looking at. And I think that's kind of the 148 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: that's become the talking point on social media, is the 149 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: United States going to go in and try to remove 150 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: a leader and have a regime change again and lead 151 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: to another twenty year war and all of that. But 152 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: I haven't I've been kind of interested that the leaders 153 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: of the Democrat Party whoever, we consider those these days, 154 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: but they haven't been really vocal saying no, no, there's 155 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: no nuclear possibilities there. 156 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they must know something. 157 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, the CIA had a closed door session today 158 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: classified assessment, talking to our policymakers on the House and 159 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: the Senate side about what exactly we know. Additionally, we 160 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: should bring in other intelligence agencies in their assessments. No 161 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: doubt those are being provided this morning and throughout today 162 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: from the Austrians, for example, who say that no, in fact, 163 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: the Iranians do have an advanced nuclear weapons program right now, 164 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: unlike the CIA, which says no, no, they abandoned it 165 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: back in two thousand and three, maybe two thousand and nine. 166 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: So there's some division there amongst what intelligence experts have 167 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: to say. And I think that's something else that the 168 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: President said the other day when he was talking about 169 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 2: somebody who respects very much Tulci Gabbert, the Office Director 170 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: of National Intelligence, the OD and I chief saying well, 171 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: I don't care, not necessarily about what she has to say, 172 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: but what the intel community has to say, because there 173 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: is no the intel there is intelligence of different quality 174 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: and characteristics that I can lean on but it's not 175 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: going to be directive. It's not going to tell me 176 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: what to do. And I think that behind closed door, 177 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: you're seeing some Democrats who still have a few functioning 178 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: brain cells, who are saying to the White House, we 179 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: appreciate the nuance here we might not say in public. 180 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: And I think that that's why some of them are 181 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: keeping a little bit quiet today. 182 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: And you say that as someone who used to be 183 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: a Democrat twenty years. 184 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was Democrat for twenty years. 185 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: I think that's interesting. 186 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: And certainly we've seen that on for both parties, where 187 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: it's been you know, my party left me story. But 188 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: right now it seems a lot like Democrats are trying 189 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: to figure out where they stand. And you I believe 190 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: the people you're talking about right now are kind of 191 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: the historical Democrat, the more moderate Democrat. And you know, 192 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: we see obviously what's happening in New York City right now, 193 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: where we've got this radical socialist that is openly saying 194 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: he's going to bring socialism to New York and you've 195 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 1: had Obama's people come out and say this would be catastrophic. 196 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: So it is interesting in this crisis moment to see 197 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: this sort of quietness coming from the party, and like 198 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: you said, people behind the scenes, probably with cooler minds, 199 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: saying Okay, this is no longer political games. We are 200 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: now in a situation where we have to make a 201 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: true decision. And I think that was sort of a 202 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: moment for what you talked about with Tulsea Gabbard. That 203 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: was a moment for the media to seize on this 204 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: and say, oh, he's out of step with his cabinet, 205 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: and you have the Director of National Intelligence saying no, 206 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: this isn't the case. You broke that down on social 207 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: media in a unique way where you talked about the 208 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: different levels of intelligence, and I think, like I said, 209 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: as a civilian on the outside, I go, man, they 210 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: get intelligence. 211 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 3: That must mean intelligence. 212 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: That the definition of the word means, you know, this 213 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: is smart stuff, so that must be right. But you're 214 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: you make a great point that you get something. You 215 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: have to kind of read between the lines and not 216 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: everything is just straightforward and clear. 217 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you, having done the work of 218 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 2: intelligence for many, many years, there anytime anyone says, well 219 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: the intelligence says, it just makes me cringe because what 220 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 2: you can say is, look, we have degrees of confidence 221 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: in certain sources that we work with for a certain 222 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 2: period of time. Some of them are all pointing the 223 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: arrow in one direction that we think Iran does or 224 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: does not have a nuclear program or whatever it may be. 225 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: But maybe we have some contrarian intelligence, or we have 226 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: some sources that we really like and trust to say 227 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: the opposite. So that leaves a degree of confidence that 228 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: we can't say it's high. You can only see medium 229 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: or maybe just low. And then in this world of 230 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence and digital exhaust where you can manipulate truth 231 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: so easily, it's becoming even more difficult to know for 232 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: sure whether not the intelligence that you get is accurate. 233 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: In fact, that is actually played a really surprising role 234 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: in the war in Iran over the past five days. 235 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: One of the most underreported facts of how Israels managed 236 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: to just wipe out Iran's leadership is they send people 237 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: into Iran a couple of months ago sort of collecting 238 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: digital exhaust, which is basically like if I wake up 239 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: in the morning and I use my phone and I 240 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: use an alarm, then I go on and check my 241 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: email and send text messages. All that that's creating data 242 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: about who I am. Where I'm scary what I'm sending. 243 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: And they did it around all kinds of facilities around 244 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: or on, and they figured out who the raning senior 245 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: leaderships were or military leadership, what time they got to work, 246 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: what time they went to lunch, one time they went 247 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: out to go for a jog. And that's how they 248 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: were able to kill so many of them. Was collecting 249 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: all of this digital intelligence or digital exhaust we all 250 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: leave behind every day. So that's going to think I'd 251 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: be one of the things that is so underappreciated now. 252 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: But I guarantee you the CIA and Pentagon are digging 253 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: into about Holy smokes, this going to hit us and 254 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: our leadership too. So the point is the world of 255 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: intelligence trying to understand the decipher what truth and what's not, 256 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: what your vulnerabilities might be. Really, it's not just about 257 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: the intel. It's about judgment and discernment. And that's what 258 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: we're asking President Trump to do as he is doing 259 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: and picking up the phone and talking to Arab leaders, 260 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: not just net Yahood Israel. That kind of discernment is 261 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: what we're looking for in a commander in chief, and 262 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: that's what he's doing. 263 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: Well, that's an interesting point that it's not you know, 264 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: I think the most people are saying he's just in 265 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: lockstep with notting Yahoo, but he is talking to the 266 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: entire Middle East. And this is what I keep telling people. 267 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, you have to understand when you hear that 268 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: they're the world's leading state sponsor of terror. They are 269 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: funding all of these groups. And the reason they were 270 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: able to fund these to a higher level is really 271 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: if you look at what Joe Biden's administration did. They 272 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: took off those sanctions, they allowed that money to be 273 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: released to them. Once Iran has money. People don't understand 274 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: the country is so much different than the United States. 275 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: They're not helping the people, they're not feeding the poor. 276 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: It's not like there's no charity there. They are funding terror. 277 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: So when you see Hamas and has a lot of 278 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: these groups they are going in and they are being 279 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: funded by Iran. And that's why the whole Middle East 280 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: actually has a vested interest in seeing this go a 281 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: certain direction. 282 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me just underline that for US. A couple 283 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: of months ago, United Kingdom they arrested a terror cell 284 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: for Iranian nationals who pretended to be migrants crossing the 285 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 2: English channel as illegal aliens they crossed over, they set 286 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: up a sell and there were hours away from bombing 287 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: UK targets to include the Israeli embassy in London. So 288 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: that is how the Iranian regime operates. They're very, very savvy. 289 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: They use sabotage teams, which, just to pause for a moment, 290 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: oh nine million illegals across our southern border. Might there 291 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: have been a few sabotage teams in that group. So 292 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 2: the point is Iran is a very very aggressive country. 293 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: They used terror. They have done so for decades since 294 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: their revolution in nineteen seventy eight. They've had a couple 295 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: of very key foreign policy goals. One is destroying Israel. 296 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: The second is destroying America. So we know that is 297 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: true as well. 298 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 299 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: a Tutor Dixon podcast. Is something that I've been talking 300 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: about as I've been traveling around Michigan is all of 301 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: these things that you hear the President talking about the 302 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: whole America First concept, they all intertwine and you brought. 303 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: Up all of the people that have crossed our borders. 304 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: And I've been trying to explain this to people. I'm like, Look, 305 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: he has to make sure that we are safe, that 306 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: people in the Middle East are safe, and that we 307 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: are safe from Iran, because we had an open door 308 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: for four years, an open door that was not vetting anyone. 309 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: And while they told. 310 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: You that that was nice, I don't know if these 311 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: people were useful idiots or what the plan was there 312 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: that they were just late letting the door go wide open. 313 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: And I say that because an administration is not just 314 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: a president, it is so many advisors, so many people 315 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: who said, yeah, leave the doors open, knowing. 316 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: That things like this happen. 317 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: And I've said to them, you have no idea how 318 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: many bad guys came across. I hadn't heard that story 319 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: about the UK. That is what could happen here in 320 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: the United States precisely. 321 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: Look, it is so self evident, and it was over 322 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: the past four years. And folks like yourself and myself 323 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: and others who could just use common sense and say 324 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: that even atzer point one percent of the nine plus 325 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: million are the bad guys, that's a lot of bad guys. 326 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: It only took nineteen to bring down a bunch of 327 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: beautiful buildings of ours in New York and Washington, DC 328 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: and in the field of Pennsylvania back in nine to eleven. 329 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: So it's a very real threat. Yes, you're absolutely right. 330 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: It happened a couple of months ago in the UK. 331 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: We almost came very very close to a lot of 332 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: folks being there, and so this is a very important 333 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: threat when we have to start thinking about this stuff abroad. 334 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: But it's also important I want to just to honor 335 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: something that you said. There are a lot of people 336 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: out there, especially and I would say our generation and 337 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: young men especially, who have had to fight these warriors 338 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: who are now in their thirties and forties and are 339 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: looking to yet another Middle Eastern possible conflict, and they're like, oh, 340 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: wait a minute, I'm losing an arm, I've already lost, 341 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: I've lost a leg, I've lost my mind because PTSD, 342 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: I'm not sending my son over there. I am not 343 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 2: doing this again. So I think it's very very fair 344 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: for the American people to say we've done foreign entanglements 345 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty five years, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, beyond 346 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: no more. That's fair and that's what President Trump, Commander 347 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: Chief has to demonstrate to the American people that I 348 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: know the past, but we have today and we have 349 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: a future, and we have to tackle this threat as 350 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: much as the past that may advise us not to that. 351 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: You said, good reachable people can still say no, we shouldn't. 352 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you make such a good point because our 353 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: generation people leapt into service. They just as soon as 354 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: nine to eleven happened, they were like, absolutely, sign me up. 355 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: And we had not We had our parents had seen Vietnam. 356 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: We had not seen Vietnam, so we had not really 357 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: seen a significant war. And there was this patriotism of 358 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: I've got to protect the United States. I'm going to 359 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: step in, and that war was never ending, and then 360 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: the way it did end was so traumatic. And you 361 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: make the point that the military today is not what 362 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: it was, certainly not what it was years in years past. 363 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean now we are wounded from what we've sent 364 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: to Ukraine. We are looking at this situation with fewer recruits, 365 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: roots that are out of shape. We've had a struggle 366 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: to morale was at an all time low and Donald 367 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: Trump took office. We've struggled to recruit people into the military. 368 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: And then you see you have this. 369 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: Military parade to celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary 370 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: of the birth of our US Armed forces, and you 371 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: have a public shaming of that. It's like you have 372 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: to have you have to honor your military, might you 373 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: have to honor the people who put their lives on 374 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: the line. 375 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: Well, celebrating two hundred and fifty years ago, the fact 376 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: that this country wouldn't exist without the army, right, that's 377 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: certainly something to celebrate. You know, look that the data 378 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: show that this country has a serious problem with patriotism. 379 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: It's still pretty strong within the Republicans and independence, so 380 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: when you start getting left, it's gone. So yeah, that factors, 381 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 2: I think into you know, can you rally a nation 382 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 2: around a cause when so many people in this country 383 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 2: hate it and so many country folks in this country 384 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: hate our founders in call our history read you know, 385 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: white supremacy and all the rest of it. It's just 386 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 2: really absurd. We lived in a tough time, so yeah, 387 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: it's when you're going to go to war or the 388 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 2: potential of it, you've got to make the case. But 389 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: you got to have an American people who believe that 390 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: this country and its values are worth fighting for. And 391 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: we have a lot of folks who don't. 392 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: I think you recently referenced maybe it was Gavin Newsom 393 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: saying something about America not being great, and it reminded 394 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: me of do you remember that show the Newsroom when 395 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: they did at the beginning of the Newsroom, they came 396 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: out and this woman or they asked the question, like, 397 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: what's the greatest country? And this girl says America, and 398 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: then he goes on this long rant about why America 399 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: is not the greatest country. And this was just lauded 400 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: as like this amazing monologue. This was like something that 401 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: college students should listen to because it was so incredible. 402 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: And it was the worst thing I've ever heard. 403 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So why did nine million plus people come 404 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: under Joe Biden? Why do they try to flood into 405 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: this awful, disgusting nation if it's really that on? 406 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, very good point. 407 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: So look, yeah, there are governors Gavin Newsom has said this. 408 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: We also have a governor, a former governor Cuomo of 409 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: New York who said America is not going to be 410 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 2: great because it's never been that great. This is a 411 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 2: very consistent message by Democrats in this country. They hate it, 412 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: they think it's awful. They make that case more than 413 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 2: you know. We are an imperfect union and we've got 414 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: work to do, but it's a pretty darn good place 415 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: and I am so glad to be here. I wouldn't 416 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: want to be in Iran. I wouldn't want to be 417 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: for you. 418 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: But but okay, so that's you have Woopy Goldberg who 419 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: comes out and says that Iran living in Iran is 420 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: the equivalent of black people living in the United States. 421 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: And people were like, oh, we can't say anything about this, 422 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: because you know, if you don't know. 423 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: The life, what it's like to live as a black person. 424 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: And I give Alyssa Farres some credit in this because 425 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: she tried to say, gosh, you know, there was a 426 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: time when you could say that that could potentially have 427 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: been true. But today, in twenty twenty five, I don't 428 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: think you understand what happens to people in Iran. And 429 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: I I've studied the country over the past few years, 430 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: and a lot of what was happening. Gosh, it probably 431 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: was in twenty nineteen and twenty eighteen when they were 432 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: murdering the women in the streets for taking off their 433 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: hit job. And you would see young men who, if 434 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: they at all spoke spoke against the government, they were 435 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: hung in the streets. And I think that the American 436 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: people cannot understand that type of oppression and that type 437 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: of fear that the people live in constantly. But Democrats 438 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: will openly say, oh, it's the same. But that's so 439 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: it's not only belittling to the United States. It it's 440 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: so uneducated and it is so manipulative to the American 441 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: people to not understand who you are really dealing with 442 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: in the world. 443 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 2: You have to have so much wealth or power, so 444 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: much a sort of bourgeois status to sit in your 445 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: Upper East Side Manhattan studio like will Be and look 446 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: down to the people and say, oh, it's so hard 447 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: being me. It's so come on, now, come on now. 448 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: You can't say that in a country that has given 449 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 2: you so much to then just throw rocks at it 450 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: all the time. You can call it imperfect, and you should. 451 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 2: The founders did founders acknowledge that, and we all have 452 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: a challenge to make it a more perfect union. So 453 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: there's nothing shocking about it. It's just so wildly disappointing 454 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: and really infuriating to hear folks like will Be Goldberg 455 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: say things like that. When I tell you if she 456 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: were to live in Iran or North Korea or any 457 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: of these China. These places are not nice if you 458 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: like liberty. They're lovely if you like tyranny. But if 459 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: you've traveled abroad, or even if you haven't, you just 460 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: pick up a book in a magazine and you appreciate 461 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: what's going on in some of these countries. You are 462 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 2: just so grateful that you live here, and why nine 463 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 2: million people try to come under Joe Biden and did oh? 464 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: I mean so, I met a woman who had been 465 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: taken hostage by the government in Iran, and they had 466 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: these I don't even know how to describe it. 467 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 3: They had these torture cells where. 468 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: You had to be crouching to be able to sit 469 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: in a cell, and if your head at any point, 470 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: so you had to be sitting on your rear end 471 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: with your knees up and your arms wrapped around your 472 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: knees so and with your head down or else because 473 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: if your head went above the wall, they beat you 474 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: with a cane and people would just be and you. 475 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: And she said she was there for over one hundred days, 476 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: and somehow she got out of that situation. Most people 477 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: didn't live the horrific forms of torture for just saying 478 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: they want freedom. The horrific forms of torture that you 479 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: would as an American, you would if you ever saw 480 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: that in the United States of America, My gosh, it 481 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: would be so foreign to us. 482 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, this also goes back about three months when 483 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: Representative AOC of New York, you know, the illustrious socialist, 484 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: said that Actually I'm going to paraphrase what she said, 485 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: but this is pretty accurate. She said, Look, America may 486 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: be in decline, but because America is so bad in 487 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 2: so many ways, maybe that client is a good thing. 488 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a good thing, and maybe some of the 489 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: ashes something better it can arise. That's a pretty accurate 490 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: paraphrase of what she said. So that's really the Whoopie Goldberg, 491 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: the AOC, the Democrat. Frankly, the leftist view of this 492 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: country is it's bad, it's irredeemable. It's never been that great, 493 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: so let's tear it down and build something else. 494 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: That is something that I've heard, not just from Democrats. 495 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: And I had a conversation the other night here in 496 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: Michigan with a person on County Commission and I said, 497 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: you know, if we were to bring in some businesses 498 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: into our town that had high paying positions, we would 499 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: our town would be in a much better position because 500 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: they what they've done here is they've brought in a 501 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: bunch of build a bunch of low income housing, and 502 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: then they made the downtown this great area for you 503 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: have a social district that you can walk around and drink, 504 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: and all these new mom and pop restaurants have come 505 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: in that nobody's going to because the reality is that 506 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: when everybody's housing is paid for and there's no jobs, 507 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: they can actually afford to go out to eat. And 508 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: I said, if we were to try to focus on 509 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: bringing in high paying jobs, it would, you know, raise 510 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: a lot of issues. A lot of issues would go 511 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: away because once people can pay for things and you 512 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: have competition, and then other companies have to pay higher wages, 513 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: Like a lot of these questions of whether people can 514 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: buy housing, whether people can go out and eat, whether 515 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: people can spend and you get more sales tax, those 516 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: are taken off the table because you suddenly have competition 517 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: and people are making money. And he was like, we 518 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: don't want people, so what he said, I'm sorry, why 519 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: did you build the downtown the way you did with 520 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: the social district and everything. What do you mean, well, 521 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: we don't want to be like any of these other 522 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: towns that are on the water where people it's just 523 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: for us. And then said we've rezoned so that we 524 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: can have a whole sporting section. I said, well, okay, 525 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: so are these paid programs? Oh? Yeah, the kids can 526 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: come and do this and that. And I said, well, 527 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: who's going. 528 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: To pay for it? 529 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: Like, come on, how did we get to this point 530 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: where we think everything is free and everything should be 531 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: a joyful place where we can go out and drink 532 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: and listen to music, but we're not going to worry 533 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: about working. 534 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's a little bizarre. I got to tell you. 535 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: There was some think about the tarf wors, you know, 536 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: in President Trump, you know, trying to recent global relations 537 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: in the US A kondom with tariffs. The BBC interviewed 538 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: a mother and a son in Michigan and they asked 539 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: if they supported it, and their response by the mother 540 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: was so apoignant. She said, you know, I don't know 541 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 2: if this is going to work out well for us, 542 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: but what I know is nobody else's fighting for us. 543 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: What I know is that our towns aren't sick or 544 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: aren't healthy anymore. We're sick. The son talked about his 545 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 2: friends who were in their thirties and in their forties, 546 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: who are broken. Something has happened in our lifetime, yours 547 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: in mind, over the past forty some odd years, something horrible, 548 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: I think has happened to a lot of hounds, especially 549 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: out in Michigan, but well beyond the working class. And 550 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: I think that the President, when we think about Iran, 551 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: he knows that a lot of working class kids would 552 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: have to be involved in possible war in the Middle East. 553 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: He's very aware of that, and that's why his reflex 554 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: is to avoid war. So I think that's why he's 555 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: still open to a peace deal with Tearran, even at 556 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: this late hour. And yet he still is resolutely, i think, 557 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: pretty consistently saying, look that the tariffs are about resetting 558 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 2: this economy for places like you just described. So it's 559 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: not just open to the people in the capitol like 560 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: for some sort of Hollywood movie. We're all the fancy, 561 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: they're rich and the powerful, get all the spoils, and 562 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 2: everybody else lives out in one of the districts and 563 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 2: cuts timber or mine's coal. And I think that that 564 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: is what you're speaking about, which is really a disconnect 565 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: between our friends and family that maybe we have wealth, 566 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: but there are a lot of folks who don't, and 567 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: it is not a lovely place if we end up 568 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: the only ones who are wealthy and a lot of 569 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 2: other folks are down in the gutty. That's just not 570 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,479 Speaker 2: a country you want to be a part of. We 571 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: need a robust middle class, and I think that's part 572 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: of what the present's trying to do with his hair switch. Again, 573 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: we're getting little off topic, but the point is you're 574 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: absolutely right. I think it all ties in together. 575 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 576 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 577 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: You make such a good point about President Trump because 578 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: I think when I mean, if we look back at 579 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: when he was campaigning, people said he's unhinged, you'll never know, 580 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: he can't have the nuclear codes, blah blah blah. But 581 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: what you just said about here, he is taking time 582 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: to really think about this, making a clear decision. 583 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 3: He's in and out of the situation room. 584 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: There's been discussions of who's been in and out of 585 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: the situation room with him, but he came out and 586 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: he made it very clear, this is a decision we 587 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: will make over time. 588 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 3: There is no split second decisions. There's no irrational decisions. 589 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: I mean, look at we have. 590 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: I believe that if you look back at the Biden 591 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: administration and how they left Afghanistan, that was an irrational 592 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: decision because it was like, oh, this is the date 593 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: we're out. Doesn't matter if we're prepared, doesn't matter if 594 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: where we have the air force based secure, We're just 595 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: we're just going to blindly adhere to this date without 596 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: any planning. That's not what you're seeing with Donald Trump. 597 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: He's very calculated in making sure that the American people 598 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: are taking care of And it reminds me, honestly, of 599 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: the day he was shot and he stood up and 600 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: he looked out at the crowd and said, keep going. 601 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: You know, fight, fight fight. It wasn't about him. That 602 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: is in your character. You can't fake that. And I 603 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: think you make a great point. Is right now he's 604 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: not faking that. He is making sure he is very 605 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: very clear with the decision that's going to be made. Yeah. 606 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 2: Look, he's walking a very fine line, isn't he. He 607 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: knows that the American people and his political base don't 608 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: want war in the Middle East. He also knows, and 609 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: he has run on the fact that we don't need 610 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: more nuclear weapons in this world, and we need fewer 611 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: countries with those weapons. He's been very consistent on that 612 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: as well. He also knows that our military is struggling. 613 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: He knows that we are thirty six trillion dollars in debt. 614 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: He knows that our supply chains rebuild our military or weak. 615 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: He knows that our greatest threat is China. He is 616 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 2: trying to walk a very clear line here, trying to 617 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: accomplish a lot of very difficult things in one fell swool, 618 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: and it's top. He's in a very top position. So 619 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: rather than to throw an arrow at the guy, actually 620 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: I salute him and I pray for. 621 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: I love that well. I'm glad that it's him. 622 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: I trust that he is working with great people, and 623 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: like you said, it's a very fine line. There's no 624 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: clear answer, and I think prayer is absolutely the right thing. 625 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 3: You bet well. 626 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for talking with us today. Brian Dean, right, 627 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: tell us where people can find your show, because you 628 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: have a show, right. 629 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: I do. I do a five day week podcast morning 630 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: news podcast. We go around America and around the world. 631 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: We talk a lot about global stuff, but domestic policies too. 632 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: It airs at three am Eastern Time, which is pretty 633 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: dark early for most folks, so that's good. 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