1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: What's up. He's Trevor Rosenthal. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: I'm Katie Wu. Welcome back to Cardinal Territory, Trevor. I 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: feel like I haven't seen you in a thousand years, 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: but it's really only been a week. 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: How are you well, Katie. Good to see I'm glad 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 3: you missed me. That makes me feel good. How's how's 7 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 3: our show doing? I mean, we're still in business, so 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: must be doing all right. 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: Dude, We're doing okay. 10 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: We are doing okay, and that's I think the bar right, like, 11 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: just do okay. And again, unfortunately, our loyal listeners and viewers, 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: we still don't have any news for you, but that's okay. 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: What's really being tested is the creativity between you and 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: I for this podcast, because we are rapidly running out 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 2: of new topics. But the good news is is as 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: of our record day Monday, January twenty seventh, two weeks 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: from today, I will be heading to Jupiter for the 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: start of spring training. 19 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: So baseball season is very near. 20 00:00:55,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: I personally don't feel like it is, Trevor, do you. 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: I mean, the gauge for me was always the Super Bowl. 22 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: So now that we're through the league championships and the 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: Super Bowls in a couple of weeks. Now, that was 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: always the gauge. So the fact that the next football 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: game is the Super Bowl. I mean, you know, as 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 3: a baseball player going in the off season, like once 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: the Super Bowls being played, you're like you're sitting there 28 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: with your buddies and having a good time. You're like, 29 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: all right, this is gonna be maybe the last time 30 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: I'm this relaxed for the next eight months. So the 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, Yeah, I mean, it's around the corner. We're 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: getting there. 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: I know, it's so scary. 34 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: First of all, January has seemed like eight weeks long. 35 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: But I think one of the reasons why I don't 36 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: feel like baseball season is so soon is because there 37 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: are so many free agents still unsigned, like Pete Alonso, 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: who knows Alex Bregman. 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: That's been a big thing. 40 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: We've been monitoring Jack Flaherty, former Cardinal still not signed 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: and all these big names. I mean, we're used to 42 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: it now with baseball. Maybe those off season editions kind 43 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: of trickling into January. But I think we're doing the 44 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: sport in disservice by having so many free agents unclaimed 45 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: with two weeks to go until pitchers and catchers. So 46 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: maybe that's why I think there's just so many things 47 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: still undecided in baseball in general, but especially for the Cardinals, 48 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: where I'm like, no, we can't really be this close, 49 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: can we? 50 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? I agree. I mean baseball has does a lot 51 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: of things, well, free agent signings is not one of them. 52 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: It's kind of frustrating to sit here and have so 53 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: many guys still on the market, so many guys, Like 54 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: we could start a whole other league with these free 55 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: agents that are available and. 56 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: Be a good league. 57 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: It'd be like a pretty good team, I think. 58 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: I think, so we could compete. 59 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something, But since we're so close to baseball, 60 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: and granted these rosters are going to change before opening Day, 61 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: figured we might as well preview the always interesting, definitely 62 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: not normal National League Central. Of all the divisions in baseball, 63 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: I think the Ennell Central has been the least competitive 64 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: in a grand scheme of things, but very competitive within 65 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 2: its own division because you you have a five teams 66 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: that are between eighty to ninety wins each year, and 67 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: the NL Central's postseason success over the last five or 68 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: six years has not been great. I don't even think 69 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: a team from the NL Central has gotten out of 70 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: the first round of playoffs since twenty twenty, so. 71 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: That's not good. 72 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: But if you're the Saint Louis Cardinals and you're sitting 73 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: here saying we want to compete next year. 74 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: Good news. You can probably still compete in the division. 75 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: Now. Is there a difference between competing in the NL 76 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: Central and competing in Major League Baseball at large? Yes, 77 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: we know this, but anything to sneak into the expanded playoffs. 78 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: So let's break into the NL Central. 79 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: We'll start first with the Milwaukee Brewers, so have no 80 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: fear of Cardinals fans. The Cardinals are not the only 81 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: team that have not signed a free agent to a 82 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: major league contract. The Brewers have not either, and they've 83 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: lost two key pieces to last year's division winning club. 84 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: Devin Williams trade into the Yankees and William Johmas signed 85 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: a free agent Cup Track in San Francisco. Now, when 86 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Brewers here, I like their pitching. 87 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: Brandon Woodchuf's coming back, Freddy Parolta will be their ace. 88 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: Nesta Cortes is a Brewer. I forgot about that. I'm 89 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: sure they'll be able to figure him out because they 90 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: do that with every one of their pitchers. The Brewers 91 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: have significant starting pitching depth, and that is a strength. 92 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: Noble Adamas hurts he was a catalyst for them last year, 93 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: but William contraras he can mash. I like their outfields, 94 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: Christian Yellwich when healthy, just going through at Jacksonurio of 95 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 2: course exciting young talent, But when I'm looking at the Brewers, 96 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: there are not a lot of household names other than 97 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: that Juey Ortiz can play that really jump out at me. However, 98 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: given what the Brewers have done over the last four 99 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: years through out of four division titles, and the reigning 100 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: National League Manager of the Year Pet Murphy, who I 101 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 2: know you're a fan of Trevor, it kind of just 102 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: seems like they're. 103 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: Gonna figure it out. 104 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: They're going to figure out a way to be at 105 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: the top of the division because they always do. 106 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I mean, those are definitely some piece 107 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: is that will Well well, they're gonna miss. But listening 108 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 3: to you and and Kyle talking the last episode and 109 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: kind of dissecting players and looking at metrics and statistics, 110 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: there's one thing that you guys said that kind of 111 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 3: took me by surprise. You talked about like the makeup 112 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: and the personalities of players, and that's something you said, 113 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 3: it k It gets overlooked. It's really hard to quantify. 114 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: But for me, that's why I like a guy like 115 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: Pat Murphy so much. He brings obviously a unique skill set, 116 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 3: being so successful at Arizona State and and now coming 117 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: off a yeah there we go that hits home coming 118 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: off the NL Manager of the Year award. He's obviously 119 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: doing something right over there. And I spent a little 120 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: time with Milwaukee. I didn't make it on the field, 121 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: but I was in the clubhouse, in the organization around 122 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: the team, and they do a really good job. I 123 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: think they have a great fan base. You know, Milwaukee 124 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: supports the sports teams very well, and for whatever reason, 125 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: I mean, Milwaukee, like you said, has been able to 126 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: figure it out. And I would imagine in a division 127 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: where there's not really any teams pulling away in terms 128 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: of the offseason and making signings, they're still going to 129 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: be right in the mix. You know, ten ten games 130 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: about everybody else the second place teams last year. So 131 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: but I don't know. Adamis is a good player. Williams 132 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: phenomenal pitcher, phenomenal bullpen piece, good additions for the Yankees 133 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: with him. But yeah, we'll see. 134 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: It's frustrating to me, not really frustrating. It's perplexing to 135 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: me how the Brewers just keep getting away with this 136 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: because last. 137 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: Year they cut payroll. 138 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: Craig Council like pulled the rug out from everyone and 139 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: was like, see, yah, I'm going to Chicago and they. 140 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: Weren't supposed to be that good. 141 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: And then their rotation was absolutely decimated by injuries early 142 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: on in the year, and they responded by going virtually 143 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: uncontested on top of the NAL Central standings for the 144 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: entire year. And I think a lot of that has 145 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: to do with Pat Murphy. They had a really dynamic club. 146 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: What I remember about the Brewers and watching them against 147 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: the Cardinals the twenty times or whatever they played, was 148 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: they were just so athletic and they got on base 149 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: and they ran, and I think that's some old school 150 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: baseball from Pat Murphy there. They definitely had the pieces 151 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: to do it. Like I said, a lot of the 152 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 2: names on the forty man roster or the projected opening 153 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: day roster aren't like household names. There aren't guys that 154 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: you like, pay a ticket to go see Like again, 155 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: Joey Orts is a good player, But if you're not 156 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: a Brewers fan, you're not throwing your money to go 157 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: watch Joey Orts play. But that's what the Brewers do 158 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: really well, and they consistently get away with it. So yes, 159 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: it's if you're a Milwaukee Brewers fan. It is definitely 160 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: really tough to see Willie Domas and Devin Williams go, 161 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: but you can take some comfort in knowing ay, the 162 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: rest of the division hasn't done that much either, and 163 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: b the Brewers are still the favorites because of their 164 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: track record over the last four years. 165 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: It's athleticism. 166 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: Man, When you have a roster like the Brewers last year, 167 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: you can win a lot of ball games in ways 168 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: that a lot of people don't really think. So that's 169 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: a that's the Brewers. Hopefully Brewers fans have more things 170 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: to talk about. Feel like they're very similar with the Cardinals. 171 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: But one team that's had a lot to talk about, 172 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: especially lately, the Chicago Cubs. And yes, I know this 173 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: is a Cardinals podcast, but we have to give credit 174 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: where credit is due. 175 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 1: I think the Cubs have had a good off season 176 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: so far. 177 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: Yes, they traded Cody Bellinger, but that was something that 178 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: I think was kind of expected that they were going 179 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: to do, and they did it relatively early. But more 180 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 2: if you're looking at not the Pirates hold on the Cubs, 181 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: they had the big trade of obviously acquiring Kyle Tucker, 182 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: and even though this trade is not official yet, they 183 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: did a trade for Ryan Presley as well. They signed 184 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: Matt Boyd some rotation depth piece, and Ezac Partis has 185 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: gone as well part of that Kyle Tucker trade. So 186 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: looking at the Cubs roster right now, I like the 187 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: Cubs rotation. Here's my confession. I'm a huge Showda girl. 188 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: He's arguably maybe. 189 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: My favorite picture at least in the National League in 190 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: the game. I think he is so fun, so dynamic. 191 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna check my bias because it was up to me, 192 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: he'd be number one in my power rankings. But even 193 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: with that aside, I like Justin Steele, Jamison Taion, and 194 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: I think again Matthew Boyd as at depth piece. That's 195 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: a solid rotation for the NL central. The bullpen obviously 196 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: is going to be much better with Ryan Presley potentially 197 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: being their closer. Nate Pearson's a good setup guy. And 198 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: then I'm looking at the roster here the position players, 199 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: and I'm not seeing outside of Kyle Tucker a lot 200 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: of thump. And I think that's the main concern for 201 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: the Cubs. For me is I think they have the 202 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: pitching lockdown. Kyle Tucker again, great trade. What else can 203 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: they do here to make sure that their lineup has 204 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: the offensive production that they need? 205 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like I like the I like Presley a lot. 206 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: I thought that. I mean's he's no Ryan Helsley. The 207 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: Cardinals definitely win in that category. And it's not even 208 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: it's not even really close. But when you look at 209 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: their you know, when you add a guy like Presley, 210 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: he just notches everybody down another slot. And it seems 211 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: like I think they saw that maybe they were a 212 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 3: runner up in the in the Tanner Scott sweepstakes, and 213 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: so I'm I'm happy that they made that addition because frankly, 214 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: they kind of needed it and the need they needed it, 215 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: and they have a young prospect that I'm excited to 216 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: watch pitches here. The Porter Hodge he filled in late 217 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: in the late in the late innings last year, and 218 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: so giving him a guy like that that's really their 219 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 3: closer for the future, potentially giving him a little bit 220 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: of leeway and bringing a guy like Presley. I'm excited 221 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: for that. 222 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, it's not like the Cubs are going 223 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: to be bad. I think the way that the rosters 224 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: are constructed from all five teams right now, the Cubs 225 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: would maybe have the advantage. They are still in the 226 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: mix for Alex Bregman from what we've seen on the reporting. 227 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: If they happened to land both Tucker and Bregman, then 228 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: I think they automatically go to number one in our 229 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: power rankings, and that'd be a huge addition for them. 230 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: You're suddenly not worried about the offense all that much anymore. 231 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: And look, it's not like guys like Dancy Swanton and 232 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: Nico Horner can't produce. 233 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: They can. 234 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: It's just slug matters so much in the game now 235 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: and to have that reliant on Kyle Tucker is not 236 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: my favorite thing in the world. 237 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: I do think the Cubs have. 238 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: A pretty underrated player in Pete crow Armstrong. I think 239 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: he got a little bit of love last season, but 240 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: my prediction for the Chicago Cubs is that he will 241 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: break out next year, But I mentioned to see what 242 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: the Cubs do up until our opening day at least, 243 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: because I do think that they are players for Alex Bregman. 244 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: So we'll see. 245 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 2: And they've been active, right you said it, Tanner Scott, 246 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: they were runner ups. They've definitely tried to spend. I 247 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: think they're in a similar place with the Cardinals on 248 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: their payroll, but they've certainly done a much better job 249 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: of spending, considering the Cardinals haven't spent at all. So 250 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: I'm not out on the Cubs, I think so far. 251 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: And we'll get to the Reds and the Pirates. The 252 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: Cubs have had a pretty formidable off season and have 253 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,239 Speaker 2: certainly done enough to increase. 254 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: Their chances to win the division. 255 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 2: If you are an organization like the Chicago Cubs, so 256 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: much history, you play in a great city, you should 257 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: be trying to win as often as possible. So Jeed Hoyer, 258 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: I think has done a nice job so far in 259 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: his building. For the twenty twenty five roster coming up, 260 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: we have maybe the most terrifying part of the job. 261 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 2: We have to hear from our friends at HelloFresh. 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I'm a fan of HelloFresh too. 295 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: I love HelloFresh. 296 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: It is, it's nice. We had to cook some some 297 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: things too. We give some mess instructions. 298 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, when you're on the road 299 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: all the time. I'm I okay, Look, I live across 300 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: the street from a grocery store, so it's really. 301 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: Not that difficult. 302 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: But just to come home and have something in my 303 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: fridge and it's healthy and it's good game changer, so 304 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: big hello fresh people over here. 305 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: Okay, let's get back to it. Let's talk about the Reds. 306 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:21,359 Speaker 1: They're interesting. 307 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: At the end of the twenty twenty four season, they 308 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: canned David Bell. They brought in Terry Francona, So that 309 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: was already I thought exciting or interesting because I didn't 310 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: really know where Terry Francona stood on returning to managing. 311 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: Obviously a very. 312 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: Accomplished manager, very respected throughout the game, and as someone 313 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: who doesn't watch a lot of American League Baseball, I 314 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: didn't really get a chance to see what he did 315 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: and how he managed with the Guardians. So I'm excited 316 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: to see how that changes how the Reds play next year. 317 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: This year, whatever, they made some key ads early on. 318 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: They got Brady Singer from the Royals in a trade 319 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: that sent Johnathan India to Kansas City. They resigned Nick 320 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: Martinez and traded for Gavin Lux. Losing India I think 321 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: is not as big of a deal as it might 322 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: seem because they have so much infield depth. Looking at 323 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: the Reds Now, I think what plagued them early in 324 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: the year was they just got slammed with injuries. So 325 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: you're looking at guys these young players like Spencer Steer, 326 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: Matt McClain, nouelbe Marte is back from his suspension, Ellie 327 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: de la Cruz, Christian and Cardosian Strand. These are all 328 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: players that I think have really high ceilings. But what 329 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: I like about the Reds the most is their rotation. 330 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: Hunter Green is a dude, Brady Singer will slot right 331 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: in there, probably number two, and then you have Nick 332 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: Martinez for the experience. 333 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: Andrew Abbott is a guy. Graham Ashcraft. I swear the 334 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals see him like thirty times a year. 335 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: It's not even mathematically possible, but he pitches against them 336 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: all the time, and he's got nasty stuff. 337 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: So I always get excited about the. 338 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: Reds because I feel like they just have so many 339 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: young pieces that they will take off, but then every 340 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: year they don't. So I'm not quite sure how to 341 00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: feel about them. 342 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like too with their with their infield 343 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: outfield position players. Looks like some flexibility too, which you know, 344 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: mixing a guy like Francona who's got a lot of 345 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: experience having some young flexibility, good starting rotation. Looks like 346 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: a decent, decent bullpen. There's there's some guys out there. 347 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of Amelia Pagon and I think 348 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: he can be a good leader, good veteran presence in 349 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: that bullpen. But yeah, so a mix of you know, 350 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: a veteran leader and Terry Francona and some of this 351 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 3: flexibility and I mean Ellie Day Ellie Day La Cruz 352 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: is so fun to watch, what a what a cool player. 353 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: And we still have all these free agents a bit available. Ky, 354 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: we're gonna have to like maybe recap on this or 355 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: re up our review in a couple of weeks. 356 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: Well that's gonna be timely because the Cardinals probably still 357 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: won't have done anything, so we're gonna need new material. 358 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: So when we run back this exact same episode in 359 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 2: three weeks, just just roll with it. 360 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: Part two to an update. Yeah, I like the Reds. 361 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: I like what you said their versatility. 362 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 2: They certainly have the lineup to essentially roll out two 363 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: different types depending on your opposing starter. And again, versatility 364 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: depth that all comes into especially this day and age 365 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: and the way the game is played now that translates 366 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: to wins. 367 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: The Brewers do a good job of this, So. 368 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm cautiously optimistic about the Reds and we'll see. And 369 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: another thing about that that playing in Cincinnati is you're 370 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 2: basically playing in this miniature ballpark. 371 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: So even if you have like average power. Those balls 372 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: are gonna fly. 373 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 2: So I'm not I'm again cautiously in on Cincinnati. Let 374 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 2: me tell you an organization I'm caught like, not in 375 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: at all. 376 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm sorry. 377 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: Every year I want to get excited about the Pirates, 378 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: and they have a fantastic rotation. 379 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: Paul Skeens, we. 380 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 2: Know what he is, Mitch Keller, Jared Jones, these are 381 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: guys that people should get behind. Bailey Falters done some 382 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: nice work, and Johann Oviedo former Cardinals, should be a 383 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: contender for that fifth spot. And with all due respect 384 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: to Andrew McCutcheon, who I am a huge fan of 385 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: even growing up as a teenager in college. 386 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: I love watching Angel McCutcheon. 387 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: Nothing really else in that on that roster excites me. Yes, 388 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 2: I think O'Neil Cruz and Kabrian Hayes are extreme talents 389 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: and I like watching them play baseball, But this is 390 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: not a roster I can get excited about. 391 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 392 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: Their day is still coming, that's for sure. They very 393 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: much have committed to the draft and development phase of 394 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: building an organization, and they just happened to be stuck 395 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 3: there for a little while. But maybe Paul Skeens is 396 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: the light. Maybe he's a crack in the surface, and 397 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: maybe this year we'll see some young studs start to emerge. 398 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: I hope. 399 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: So I will say I like going a panc park. 400 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: It's a very picturesque ballpark. I love the little bar 401 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: across the street called Redbeards. 402 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: Fantastic. I've never had a bad night at Red Beards. 403 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 2: But what was so cool is after you go to 404 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: these Cardinals Pirates games and you're in Pittsburgh for seven 405 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: to eight games the year, you get accustomed to the 406 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: kind of environment there. You're talking like eight ten thousand fans. 407 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: If it's a day game, forget about it. It's an 408 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: empty ballpark. But I was in Pittsburgh in August for 409 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: a Paul Skeene's home start on a Tuesday night, and 410 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: it was electric. It was like a two to one 411 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: ball game. Skins is about to go into the nine 412 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: for the first time, and the Cardinals did win, but 413 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: that crowd was invested in every single pitch, and I 414 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 2: got me thinking like, this could be Pirates baseball because 415 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: the fans will show up. I mean, Paul Skans. Even 416 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 2: if you're a casual sports fan in general, you're gonna 417 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: go on to pay to see that. But watching the 418 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: city show up on a Tuesday night, the stands were 419 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: all black and yellow. It was a really fun atmosphere 420 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: that I hadn't seen at P and C Park in August, 421 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: maybe ever on this job. 422 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: So I want that for Pittsburgh. 423 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: I want them to be that excited fan base where 424 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 2: you go out and you pack the house on a Tuesday, 425 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: that's when baseball is at its best. I just think 426 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: they're a little far from that. 427 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, when Andrew McCutchen is your key signing of the 428 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 3: off season. Andrew Cutch is great, like you said, great player, 429 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 3: great human being, but he is far from his prime. 430 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: So it would be nice. I mean, if we could 431 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 3: relive the glory days, go back to your high school years, Katie, 432 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: and get that Pirates roster, I think we have a 433 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: lot more excited. That'd be a more exciting roster to 434 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 3: have behind a guy like Paul Skins than we're what 435 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: we're looking at right now. 436 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: It's just if their game plan is that their starting 437 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: rotation and their bullpen. 438 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: Their bullpen is not bad. 439 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: I know David Benner had a down hear there is 440 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: this believer and I'm like fifty percent sure. I'm saying 441 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 2: his name right, Carmen Litzinski. He's nasty. If he's on 442 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: a higher like a bigger team, bigger market, we're talking 443 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: about him, he's I think a very underrated piece. I 444 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 2: remember he came out and just threw gas and walked 445 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: into Olie Marml's office and he was like, what the 446 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 2: heck was that talking about the reliever. 447 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I don't know, he was. He was disgusting. 448 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: So I don't want to be a true, like a 449 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: total Pirates hater. But if their plan is to essentially 450 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: their pitching staff allowed two runs a game and they 451 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: win three two, that's sure, because I don't think they 452 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 2: have an offense that's going to give them anything more 453 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 2: than that. 454 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 3: Well, I guess we have to see if the Cardinals 455 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: can do more than that also, So yeah, you're. 456 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: All right about that. 457 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: That's my biggest question for the Cardinals. 458 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: Obviously we're not going to preview them here because we 459 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 2: preview them every episode. But I'm torn on this. The 460 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: Cardinals won eighty three games last year with the second 461 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: worst offense in the National League. They were right around 462 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: the same as the Miami Marlins, which is hard to do. 463 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: It's actually impressive to be that bad. 464 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: But again, they won eighty three games. They did that 465 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: half with an electric bullpen. 466 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about the Hellsley Kitchridge, Jojo Romeril Combo, 467 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: and I think Olie Marmel, Dusty Blake, the bullpen catchers 468 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: did a wonderful job and that cohesiveness in the bullpen 469 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: and making sure that these guys were used effectively. But 470 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: if the Cardinals hit just a little better, if they 471 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: hit league average, I think they win five to six 472 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: more games, and all of a sudden, you're talking about rivalry, 473 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: and you know, the Brewers the top of the division 474 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: or maybe even sneaking into that wildcard spot. So do 475 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 2: I think the Cardinals can contend in the division? 476 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: I do. 477 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: Do I understand fans frustrations that competing in the NAL 478 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: Central is not like competing for a legit World Series. 479 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 2: I do, and I agree with you. But I think 480 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 2: with the expanded playoffs, you've seen a lot of teams 481 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: this division, in particular, hoping that eighty five wins will 482 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 2: get you in, and in years past it has most 483 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: of the time. So the Cardinals are not my pick 484 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 2: to win the division. That's not to say that I 485 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: don't believe that they can compete in it. 486 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: Again, I do, but my pick, I'm torn. 487 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Brewers because they have the track record 488 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: and it's been their division since twenty twenty one. Really, 489 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: but I would not be surprised Cardinals fans don't habe 490 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: if the Cubs make a legitimate run with the way 491 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: that the rosters stand currently as of today, is this. 492 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 3: My turn is? But is this my turn to pick? 493 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 494 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: Before people like start turning off the camera because I 495 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: said Cubs. 496 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: Well, the Cubs do make a compelling argument. I'm mainly 497 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: because I'm a big fan of Kyle Tucker. Watching him 498 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: in Houston. He is insane. I mean, he's like the 499 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: real deal, power hitting, left handed, left handed batter. But 500 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 3: I mean you make a good point, Katie, Like going 501 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: from the worst hitting team in the league to just 502 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: the middle of the pack. I mean that's at least 503 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: five games, maybe more. Maybe the Cardinals do have a chance. 504 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: Maybe we should listen to these this this excitement that 505 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 3: that's around the team. Maybe I'm gonna go with the Cardinals. 506 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: We're winning we're winning the division this year, Katie. I'm 507 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: riding I'm riding this this positive train. I'm not getting 508 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: off it. This is only the second week since I've 509 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: gotten on it. So I have to remain on the 510 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: positive train. The Cardinals, We're gonna make this adjustment. We 511 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 3: got a new hitting coach, got some new philosophies. Jordan Walker. 512 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 3: This is his year. You'll that. I mean, you're dreaming 513 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 3: about that every single night, right, I mean, so yeah, 514 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: let's go. We're gonna We're gonna surprise some people. 515 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: All right. So you lasted much longer on the positivity 516 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: trade than I did. I think I lasted three days. 517 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: And to be clear, I'm not like negative. I'm not 518 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: going into Jupiter like, oh my gosh, blowed this place up. 519 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: Of course not. 520 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to be objective and reasonable. But uh, 521 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: there has to be a good cop bad cop. So 522 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: I'll gladly for this role. 523 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: Again. 524 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: I don't think it's impossible, but a lot of things 525 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: have to go right. It's a lot of ifs, it's 526 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: a lot of players taking a step up. It's if 527 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: Jordan Walker hits the way that they think he does, 528 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: if Nolan Gorman can get that Shrek out right down, 529 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: if Lars new Bark can stay healthy, if our starting 530 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 2: pitching prospects pan out, then we'll have a shot. It's 531 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: a lot of ifs, but there are a lot of 532 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: ifs on the four other teams as well. So I've 533 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: long named the NL Central the the UH Division of Mediocre, 534 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: and I hope I'm wrong, but I will say I 535 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 2: think it'll be compelling baseball in the division because all 536 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: these teams currently constructed look like they could be like 537 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: eighty wins, eighty five wins on a good one, but 538 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 2: also like seventy losses. I'm sorry, seventy five wins if 539 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: they have like the reverse effect of their season. 540 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: So I just don't know. 541 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 2: I don't know anything. 542 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: Trevor's that's what we should get out of this episode. 543 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. 544 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 3: You know, Katy, you know more than me, but I 545 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 3: get the benefit of the doubt. I'm not the pro here. 546 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: You've been doing this, You've been digging in deep for 547 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: a long time, and I agree. I mean, Chicago on paper, 548 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: they look pretty good. So we're gonna have our work 549 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 3: cut out for us. But that's what the season's for. 550 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: It'll be fun and soon we will have everyday baseball action. 551 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: And I am excited, honestly to go to spring training 552 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 2: and see where each player is at. You know, we 553 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: talked to most of them at winter warm up, but 554 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: it's different when you walk into Roger Dean and that 555 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: clubhouse that they still haven't remodeled that's allegedly coming and 556 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: just kind of seeing those guys so their first bullpens 557 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: and seeing it's like a different. 558 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: Kind of mentality. 559 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 2: So excited to see the position battles, Excited to see 560 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: how a lot of the young guys I think are 561 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: going to be forming the bullpen, and that to me 562 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: is exciting because I think that's where the most opportunity 563 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 2: is is for these young players, is the bullpen. 564 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: So we'll see how it goes from there. 565 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: And you know what, when we do this exact same 566 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: episode in four weeks, because things will have undoudly changed, 567 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: maybe I'll have a different opinion. Right now, I'm riding 568 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 2: with the Brewers and your team, Cardinals, you're a good form. 569 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 3: Are we going to see Aeronado in spring training? What's 570 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: your Have you shifted? 571 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: No? I still think we're going to see him. 572 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: I think we're going to see it. 573 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: I just don't see Alex Bregman's siding before spring training starts. 574 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: And you know, obviously we know Scott Boris does not 575 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 2: mind taking negotiations until late February early March. He's been 576 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: the best for his client. I don't know comments there, 577 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: but yeah, and I don't think that's going to be 578 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: good for anyone because what it absolutely is going to do, 579 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 2: it's gonna put Nolan in a bad spot. The Cardinals 580 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: have tried to trade him for four months and now 581 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: he has to come to Jupiter after Moe has said 582 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: multiple times how much he does not want him here, 583 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: and he's gonna have. 584 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: To answer a bunch of tough questions. 585 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: And I think no one just wants to play baseball, 586 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: So wouldn't be the best case scenario for anyone involved, team, player, 587 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 2: you name it. But I still think we'll see him now. 588 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: The question for me is will he be here at 589 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 2: the end of spring training, And that's where I think 590 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 2: we'll have a different answer. 591 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: But again, the Nolan's. 592 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 2: Situation, despite having zero traction, my opinion changes on it 593 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: all the time, so I'm sure next week I have 594 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 2: a completely different aspect on. 595 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 5: It, for sure. 596 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: Well, what about what about Wilson Contraras. So this thought 597 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: came to my mind recently. Was it last year or 598 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 3: the year before where they said, oh, Contras is not 599 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: catching anymore, he's playing first base, and then a few 600 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: weeks after that he was catching again. What are the 601 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: chances we see Wilson Contrasts behind the plate this year? Oh? 602 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: See when I asked Mo that in November and he 603 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 2: said close to zero and paraphrasing, but it was clear 604 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 2: that that wasn't a plan for him. So he's gonna 605 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: bring his gear just in case. That's what he said 606 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 2: at winter warm up. But I think it would have 607 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: things have to go seriously wrong for us to the 608 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: Controrasts behind the plate. 609 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: But you can't pretty ball. 610 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: As we know, because I would not have expected Wilson 611 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: Contraras to be moved to first base five weeks into 612 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 2: his Cardinal's tenure when they signed him for eighty seven 613 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: million dollars to catch. 614 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's fun. 615 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: It's always fun covering this organization and figuring out what 616 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: exactly they're doing. 617 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 3: Well, we throw Aeronauto in the mix, and this is 618 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 3: why I was thinking of it. If Aeronauda is taking 619 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: up the spot at third base, and they want to 620 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: get somebody else in playing time. And then all of 621 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: a sudden, you know, maybe it looks appealing to put 622 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: Contrasts back behind the plate to open up first base 623 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 3: for another player. 624 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's what I thought was going to happen in 625 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: the first place. I thought Alec Burlson when the Cardinals 626 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: told Paul Goalshmi at the end of the year they 627 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: weren't going to bring him back. I thought Burlson was 628 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: going to take over a first base And I know 629 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: that Burley is a bat first guy, but first base 630 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: seems the most logical position for him other than DH 631 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: And then Conturers moved to first base, and I was like, 632 00:28:59,200 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: what does. 633 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: That mean for Burlison? 634 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: And this goes back to last last week's episode where 635 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: there are just so many supplementary pieces and not a 636 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: clear way to use them consistently. That's another thing I'll 637 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: be monitoring in spring training. And look at you, Trevor, 638 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: getting me excited to go back to work. 639 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: Well, my last question is what is the issue with 640 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 3: Cantras's behind the plane? Like he seems from my perspective, 641 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 3: like a guy that I would want to throw to, 642 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 3: Like he seems like a pretty good catcher. 643 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: Well he's a gamer, right, But the big thing that 644 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: for the Cardinals and for Wilson was prolonging his health. 645 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: So in May last year we saw the incident where 646 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: he broke his hand out stretching to receive the ball 647 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: without six eight weeks and then was heard again on 648 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: hip being hit by pitch. That's more of a freak accident. 649 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 2: As Contrarast gets into his mid thirties, they want him 650 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: to stay as healthy as possible. Having two young catchers 651 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: and Evon Herrera and Pedro Pahaz made them more comfortable 652 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: in moving him to first base. 653 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: They really like Contraras's. 654 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 2: Bat in the lineup, and we saw it last year 655 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: when he was injured that offense really took a die 656 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: if it was not good. 657 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: So it's twofold. It allows better. 658 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: Uh more consistent playing time for Paz and Herrera, but 659 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: it also should keep Contraras, or at least they hope 660 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: it will keep him more healthy. 661 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: Look, there are a lot of things to get into. 662 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: When we actually get to pictures and catchers and looking 663 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: at rosters and position battles, we'll see we will see. 664 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 3: Just I just picture that we're going to walk up. 665 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: You're gonna walk up to the six pack on day 666 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: one of spring training and Quinn Matthews is going to 667 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 3: be throwing a bullpen to Wilson Contrera's and you're just 668 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: gonna have to throw all your notes out the window. 669 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: Nothing will compare to when I think it was twenty 670 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: twenty two. The lockout had just ended, but we were 671 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: already there for the minor league camp. So they opened 672 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: the complex for us, and the first day of like 673 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: everyone reporting, and no one's had any talk with any 674 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: players because they couldn't during the lockout. If you were 675 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: medical personnel from the team, you could not talk to 676 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: the players. And I look at the little chart, you 677 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: know how they stapleed the schedule to the wall, and 678 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm looking at every picture and I don't see Jack 679 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: Flaherty and I was like, okay. So I go walking 680 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: in the office and I get a bunch of non 681 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 2: answers is what I call them, And I was like, oh, 682 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 2: you guys are bad liars. 683 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: And what do we find out? The next day? 684 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: Jack Clarty and Alex Rays are hurt, and it's news 685 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: to the Cardinals because they had no idea because they 686 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 2: couldn't really talk to him, and nothing surprises me anymore 687 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: after that. Really, it's you're never bored covering major League baseball. 688 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: You are never bored, especially covering the Saint Louis Cardinals, 689 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: and I'm lucky to do so, and I'm lucky to 690 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: hang out with you. 691 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: This is the best part. 692 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: Hey, same here, Katie. I feel the same way. I'm 693 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 3: getting more and more excited about this every single day, 694 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: and especially I mean, once we have some like baseball 695 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: to cover, I'm going to be more excited. So it's 696 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: been a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you for considering me 697 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: for this too. I mean, you've had on some great 698 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 3: guests when I'm not here, but I feel lucky. I'm 699 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: the regular, and I feel fortunate that you thought of 700 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: me for this to help you out. O. 701 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: No, it's because, like I said, I told you this before. 702 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: We follow each other on Instagram and you're always doing podcasts. 703 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: I'm an avid Instagram story watcher and listening to your stuff, 704 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, this guy can bring it. And 705 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: I don't have any experience as a major league pitture obviously, 706 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: and I think that's so valuable when you're talking about 707 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: the game Look, I can sit here and give you 708 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: the reasoning behind a transaction or a pitchy move or 709 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 2: playing time, but you can offer real time experience that 710 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 2: I cannot. And it's I'm so excited when we have 711 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 2: actual games to break down to hear your perspective on 712 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: a decision or how a player handles something. See now, okay, 713 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: I'm in a better mood, better attitude. Now you have 714 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: me pumped up for my workout because both this is 715 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: a healthy podcast here on Cardinal Territory. Both Trevor and 716 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: I are going to the gym after this because we're 717 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: healthy and we're fit, right, and. 718 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: Then we're going to eat our Hello fresh meal to 719 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 3: end our day before we get our recovery. 720 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: All right, this is Cardinal Territory. You can follow us 721 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: on Twitter. You can like and subscribe to our page 722 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 2: on YouTube, find us Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts. 723 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: We'll have another episode for you at the end of 724 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: the week, and soon we'll start ramping up to three 725 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: times a week. I don't know exactly when, but it's 726 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: on my list of things to figure out, so hopefully 727 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: I will actually do that for Trevor Resenthal I'm Katie 728 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: Wu thanks for watching. 729 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: We'll talk soon.