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Speaker 1: Taking a Walk Nashville.

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Speaker 2: If that is something that you feel is important to you,

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Speaker 3: Inkley, Hi, this is Sarah Harrelson, your host of Taking

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Speaker 3: a Walk in Nashville Today. I am sitting down with

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Speaker 3: Nashville songwriter Adam Wright to talk about his new album,

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Speaker 3: Nature of Necessity. Join me as we unfold his journey

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Speaker 3: from Georgia Roots to pursuing a music dream with his wife, Shannon.

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Speaker 3: Adam Wright is a twice Grammy nominated songwriter, singer, producer,

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Speaker 3: and musician and is signed with Carnival Music. His songs

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Speaker 3: have been recorded and performed by artists such as Alan Jackson,

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Speaker 3: Leanne Wollmack, John Legend, Brandy Clark, Trisha Yearwood, and Garth Brooks,

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Speaker 3: just to name a fuel. Let's take a walk with

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Taking a Walk Nashville with your hosts singer

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Speaker 1: songwriter Sarah Harrelson.

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Speaker 3: So, Adam, thank you so much for being on Taking

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Speaker 3: a Walk Nashville today. Your songs have been recorded by

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Speaker 3: Nashville giants like Garth Brooks, Alan Jackson, Leon Wilmack, and

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Speaker 3: one of my favorites, Brandy Clark. Can you just start

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Speaker 3: by telling listeners how you got your start in songwriting

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Speaker 3: and where you're from.

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Speaker 2: Originally, I'm from Nonon, Georgia, which when I was growing

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Speaker 2: I heard I started as a piano player, I guess,

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Speaker 2: And we didn't know anybody in Austin, so we moved

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Speaker 2: And that's a you know, no matter how much you

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And it sounds like you grew up around

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Speaker 3: Well, I love that you brought that up because I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's really they're geared towards the ownership of

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Speaker 3: Right, you definitely have to wear a lot of hats

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Speaker 2: And this collection, like all records, to me, I think

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Speaker 2: particularly Dreamer and the Realist and Heaven When I Die

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Speaker 3: This they do. Yeah, it's I think it's beautifully pieced together.

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Speaker 2: But I also think his figure looms so large over

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Speaker 2: So that something making messes. I make noise and messes,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's wrong with me, but you've definitely

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Speaker 3: Their voices are so beautiful on the album. And you

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Speaker 2: I love both of them so much, and they were

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And where in Nashville did you record this album.

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Speaker 2: It's East Irish. It used to be the House of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a it's a great studio. And your new

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Speaker 2: I am, yeah, and probably not as many as my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all on adamwrightsongs dot com. And you know,

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Speaker 3: So we're on taking a walk in Nashville. So I

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Speaker 2: Let's see in Nashville. See, I live just outside in

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Speaker 2: lot when we lived on that side of town. That's

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Speaker 3: Can I always rely on my husband because he's run

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Speaker 2: You get lost. I took a bike up there one

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Speaker 3: All of the little buildings that were I know a

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, condo city. They see.

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Speaker 3: Well, Adam, thank you so much for being on taking

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Speaker 3: a walk Nashville today. Everyone, I should go check out

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Speaker 3: your new album, Nature of Necessity. And find your website

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Speaker 3: for your upcoming shows. Thank you for being on today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Sarah, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to Taking a Walk Nashville with singer

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