WEBVTT - Kelly Packard Meets World 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:24.160 So one of my favorite current artists is this singer 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.240 songwriter named John Craigie. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:26.840 Do you guys know. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.680 He's amazing, He's awesome. I've seen him a couple of 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:35.239 times a concert. I'm gonna see him coming up. You 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.720 would you would hate him, Danielle. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.000 Seeing Bob Dylan esque. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:41.319 Yes, Scott it. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.880 Very much in the Bob Dylan, in the Bob Dylan mold, 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.479 but very self consciously so. I mean even has a 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.680 song called too Much Dylan. Okay, Anyway, he put on 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:55.160 an album like two years ago called mermaid Salt, which 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.800 is just brilliant and beautiful. The lyrics are insane and 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.440 it's like a it's a great vibe. I just spent 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.600 like my entire summer listening to it that year and 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:08.080 like great album. So I highly recommend that. But I 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.920 discovered him a few years ago through this song that 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:17.120 he has. It's a from a live album called Opening 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.479 for Steinbeck and the first song is the song called 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.800 Dissecting the Bird and it starts to just. 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.120 Be called all for Rider. Every thing you said so 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:27.600 far is so Rider strong. 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:28.480 It's unbelieve. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:29.320 Oh my god. 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:33.520 Yes, here's the thing. He's he's he's he's become a 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.039 very serious songwriter. And it's like I said, the lyrics 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.679 are incredible and deep and nice, but he's actually very funny, 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:43.160 and he has an on stage presence it's really reminiscent 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:47.240 of Mitch Hedberg. He has this sort of like really clever, 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.600 witty asides that he just sort of throws out there 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:55.760 and just it kills. So he's he's hysterical and he 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.960 this song, Dissecting the Bird starts off and it's the 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.560 opening of this concert that he's doing, and you know, 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.480 the music starts and the first verse is all about 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:09.640 how nervous he is to be singing and that he 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.359 doesn't feel prepared and he knows his voice isn't very 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.520 good and he's afraid his fly is open, and you 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.480 can hear the audience like kind of laughing, like is 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.639 this is this part of the song? Say what is this? 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:21.920 And then he drops into the chorus and the chorus 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:26.160 is you're doing it wrong, dissecting the bird, trying to 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.760 find the song. It's a miracle that we're here at all, 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:31.760 and it's like, wow, that's kind of cool. And then 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:33.520 he goes into the second verse and it's all about 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.680 how he takes it to like, I can't believe I'm 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.359 singing in front of you people, Like my last job 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:42.760 was picking up trash in a parking lot. Nobody would 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.760 watch me do that. I'm so lucky that you're here 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.360 to listen to me sing, you know. And then he 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.399 goes into the verse again like you're doing it wrong, 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:52.720 dissecting the bird, trying to find the song. It's a 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:54.960 miracle that we're here at all. And the audience is 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:56.680 like starting to go on his side. You can hear 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.399 them like, oh okay. And then he just goes into 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.720 this amazing verse where he takes it all the way 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:07.000 back to you know, the human history and world events 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.400 that have led us to be here in this moment, 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.880 and it gets more and more like poetic and beautiful, 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:16.000 where he's like, you know, all these things had to happen, 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:20.000 like diseases and cells, and your parents at some point 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.800 had to meet and stay together just long enough to 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.280 make some love and give you a name, and you know, 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.240 now you're here, and it's just like and he goes 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.280 into this thing where it's like in the audience is 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.880 just so with him, and then he brings back the chorus, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.040 which is you know, you're doing it wrong, dissecting the 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.920 bird trying to find the song, and it's hysterical and 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.760 kind of strangely beautiful and wonderful and all the things 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:42.840 that I love it. And it was the first song 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.520 I ever heard of his that got me into him. Anyway, 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.440 I hadn't heard it for years, and then I heard 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:52.760 it just the other day, and suddenly I could I 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.000 was listening to it in the framework of this podcast, 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:00.840 you know, and this tendency that we have because of 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.600 what we're doing to be you know, dissecting boy meets 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.600 World and pulling it apart. And in a way, it's 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:09.960 the same thing, right we're dissecting the bird, trying to 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:14.160 find the song, and I suddenly could just hear this, 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.120 this this journey that this song goes on in the 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.200 context of like what we're doing. And in the same way, 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:24.200 we're like nervous about our performances, we're critical of ourselves, 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.600 and then we also have this other side, like in 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.920 his second verse, where we're like, but you know what's amazing, 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.960 like that we had this hit show and that anybody's 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.600 listening to us, And anyway, you guys should go listen 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.960 to it. I recommend it to all of our listeners too, 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.719 And it's just like I just it was. It was 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.560 so funny to re encounter this song and be like, yeah, 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:48.480 this is much much like this song in our experience 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.560 with this podcast. Like it's a miracle that we're here, 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.320 you know, and like we get over analytical, we get 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.039 we were hard on ourselves, we're hard on the show, 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.880 but like I am so grateful and so happy and 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.680 like it's it. It truly is so heartwarming that we 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.080 get to do this and we're going to continue to 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.760 dissect the bird. But you know, there really is a 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.680 song that that that was there and then you know, 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.719 the Boy Meets World is great and this podcast is 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.360 so great and our listeners are amazing. Yes, it's it's 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.080 something if anybody wants to hear a funny and good song, 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.480 it's a it's a it's a journey. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:22.960 It's fun. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:24.720 Oh, I'm going to have to go take a listen 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:25.000 to that. 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:26.760 I was worried that you were going to say, so 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.000 we're doing it wrong and this will be our last episode. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.840 The reason we do the podcast. You're the one who 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.839 came up with the idea. At any point, you could 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:37.920 pull the plug, I guess, so, you. 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:42.800 Know, no, that's the thing. It's like, you know, we're 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:48.640 all we're doing is Monday Morning quarterbacking. Yeah, yeah, metaphors 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.760 trying here you go. Yeah, and you know, so it's 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.880 always there's always this tension here. But I just I 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:55.280 you know. 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.880 I would I would add one caveat to that. We're 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:03.640 Monday Morning quarterbacking our own quarterback performance, which is different. 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.000 It's different than sitting there and watching a game that 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:07.719 you were sitting on your couch you had nothing to 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:09.800 do with, and then money moon a quarterbacking. We are 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:14.440 overly critical and overly harsh, but we're criticizing ourselves, which 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.440 I think is a little bit different than just Strand. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:19.840 Enter team. Absolutely absolutely, and we. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.280 Could be overly harsh with that, but I think we 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.080 get a little bit of a break because it is 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:26.040 that we're analyzing something that we've done totally. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.000 So yeah, but the only reason we get to even 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:33.359 do that is because, yeah, and also just that you know, 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.279 our fans are willing to come along with us, you 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.560 know that. Yet people have endured, like you know, all 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.359 these thirty years, you know, with Boy Meets World and 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.880 shared it with their kids or their friends and their communities. 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.200 And now that's this community that we have with this podcast. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.000 It's so heartwarm and it's so wonderful. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.320 I was worried start a season five. I'll be honest, 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:52.800 I was. 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.640 I was getting worried, and now I'm getting more hopeful again. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.320 I think, yeah, we we you know, the shows and 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:01.400 flows like any good show. 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:01.800 Again. 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.160 We also as as the resident TV lover here and 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:09.039 not I wouldn't say expert, but real TV lover, just 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.800 getting into the category of having a show that lasts 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:16.200 this long and so rare that being able to say, hey, 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.720 we did one hundred and fifty eight amazing episodes that 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:20.520 no one in the history of television has ever been 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:21.040 able to say that. 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.920 There's no such thing. It doesn't exist. 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.760 There's bad episodes of Friends, the Office, Seinfeld, you name it. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.560 There's episodes. That's just the way it is. So we 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.200 might be overly harsh on it, but that's what. 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.320 We do what we're here for. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:35.440 Oh yeah, it's fun. 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.360 And I got to listen to Bob Dylan, the new 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:42.400 Bob Dylan Guy, Johnny Kraeger, John Craigie Craigie, John Craig's amazing. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.960 Well, thank you for being here for this episode of 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.240 Podmeets World. I'm Daniel Vishel, I'm Right or Strong, and 0:07:49.280 --> 0:08:05.720 I'm Wilfred. The landscape of nineties family television was, at 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.840 its core pretty simple. You had your Saturday morning cartoons 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.040 Bobby's World, Recess or Rugrats, and then you had your 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:16.120 primetime family sitcoms Full House, Family Matters or Yes, Boy 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:20.400 Meets World. But then there was something else, something completely different, 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:25.160 a hybrid of sorts, the Saturday morning family sitcom, the 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.120 urducan of Kids. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.360 TV, Yeah, Fish Steakins. 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:28.880 Yes. 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.160 And this week we are talking to one of the 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.160 true pioneers of this combo. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.040 And it's a long time coming. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.480 Because she's a familiar face to our rewatch, appearing three 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.840 times on Boy Meets World in season one as Tracy 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.760 in Model Family and It's a Wonderful Night, then returning 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.240 for season two as Candy for the Hectic Thrilla in Phila. 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:52.880 For those keeping score at home, she is not in 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.160 the three timers club since she was named Tracy twice, 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.959 but she is the first inductee into a totally different 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.000 club that we're excited to announce during this episode. 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:04.160 Today. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.560 Further extending her nineties legacy. She'd appear on The Wonder Years, 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:11.040 Step by Step and Blossom, then became a series regular 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.160 on the iconic Baywatch, donning the red swimsuit for three 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:18.080 seasons as lifeguard April Gaminski. But it was her time 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.839 on the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell that was 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.400 California Dreams, a spiritual Sister to Save by the Bell 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.640 that was part of the TNBC Saturday morning block and 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.400 would forever cement her into the Decades Hall of Fame. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:33.600 She was the bass player for the fictional titular band 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.720 Tiffany and Smith for five seasons, and it's still a real, 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.480 if you know you know type of fandom, so much 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.720 so that they recently reunited for two very special nights 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.760 to perform as a real band, singing songs from the 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.120 original show that fans still remembered. 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:52.320 Every word too. 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.839 Does actually play their instruments and sing Yes, I had 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.000 no idea, I don't know. 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:58.520 By the fact did that. 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:02.960 The show is complete, unstreamable in twenty twenty four, and 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.720 people still knew all the words. Oh yeah, let that 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.920 sing in so please Welcome to Pod Meets World. The 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:15.360 three B Queen Bass, Baywatch and Boy Meets World. It's 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:23.480 Kelly Packard. Y guys, Oh my gosh, so good to see. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.520 You, see you, Thanks for having me. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.440 So we just talked about in your intro that you 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.520 guys recently did two nights where you performed as a 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:34.160 real band. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:36.480 Boy did did you. 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.319 All play your instruments back in the day? Did you 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.880 guys all like, were you guys a real band? 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.240 No? So we that was not us playing the instruments. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.920 However, Brentley could play the guitar that well and better, 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.280 but the rest of us could not. I was faking 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:55.240 playing the bass, but I'm definitely us singing. 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.080 H We are so happy to have you as you 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.840 were one of our favorite faces to see during seasons 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.640 one and two of our rewatch, and we know that 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:07.400 you've been, you know, recently revisiting your childhood acting as well. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:11.400 So you are a perfect fit for our podcast. So 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.960 let's start with you being on Boy Meets World. You 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:19.079 appeared on three episodes as two different characters, a bit 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:20.600 of a write of passage for our show. 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:24.199 Do you remember any of the auditions? 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.480 I vaguely remember the auditions, but I know when the 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.680 first audition happened. I just know how excited I was 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.760 because I loved the show, and when I booked that, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.440 I was like awesome. And then I obviously left an 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:39.560 impression because they just kept asking me back and I 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:40.760 found that flattering. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.720 So and you had already at the time, by the 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.320 time you came to us on Boy Meets World, you 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.280 had already guest starred on Wonder Years, Blossom and Step 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.640 by Step. Were you just doing like endless rounds of 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:53.120 auditions during that time? 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:53.960 You know? 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.520 Yes, I started when I was eight years old, and 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.280 the auditions that I did from eight to thirty team 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:03.640 would blow your minds. But then when I turned thirteen, 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.000 things just kind of started happening, and I started getting 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.240 guest spots on things like Wonder Years, in Blossom and 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:12.040 Baywatch and then you guys, and so it just from 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.319 then on, I didn't really have to audition as much. 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.600 I still did have to audition, but as much as 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:18.480 when I was younger. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.520 So do you remember joining our show for a week? 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:24.640 Did you enjoy being a guest star on Boy Meets 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.040 World very much? 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.480 I didn't obviously get quite as close to you, Danielle 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.160 and you writer, but Will and I. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:33.000 Got pretty close. 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.679 We were really friends, and so we just hit it 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.440 off from the first time I was on, and so 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.760 I was exciting to go back and see him every time. 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.679 It was well, I also remember you were also you 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.320 came on on. The first episode we did together. Was 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:51.040 kind of a hectic week because it started with I 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:52.959 wish I'd remember his name was the first time Marsden 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.960 came on and was he replaced the sod. We had 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.760 rehearsed all week long with one person playing Eric's best friend, 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:05.440 and then like the day of the shoot, Marsden came 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.000 in and took the job over. So we kind of 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.280 all looked at each other like, all right, we're doing 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.199 this again, and we had to re rehearse everything and 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.360 kind of get it back into our feet again with 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:18.360 a whole I mean, Jason brings a whole different energy 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.200 to the set. So it was kind of like, oh, okay, well, 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:23.319 I guess we're doing it. 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:24.520 We're ratchet it up. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:25.839 And not starting out all over. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.319 It was we really did, and. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:32.280 I think he came in the day of the shoot. Yeah, right, yeah, 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:34.360 so we were kind of it was thrown on our 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:35.160 feet right away. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.880 Yeah, but he's such a professional I don't know that 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:39.960 anybody else could have really done that besides him. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:41.520 So yeah, dout great. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.199 Yeah, So you do not know this, but we are 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.960 here to commemorate a mind blowing achievement you pulled off 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.720 in the nineties, and you, I think, are the only 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.760 person we know to have accomplished this feat. You played 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.400 Susan Fisher on The Wonder Years, a love interest for 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.040 Kevin arn't Old, played by Fred Savage, and then you 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.680 came to Boy Meets World as Tracy, the love interest 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:11.880 of Ben Savage, officially making you the only temptress for 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:13.920 both Savage brothers. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.200 Really, that's funny. 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.840 Would you like to give an acceptance speech of any kind? 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.720 Or it's those Savage boys that just kept meet you 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:28.880 working and I open everything. No, I think actually, if 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.240 I'm not mistaken, because I was thinking about it, and Tracy, 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.920 I think was more was the love interest of you 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.720 will and then Andy was Ben right? 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.040 And I think you're right. Yes, I think you're right. 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.640 I found that interesting that I had you know that 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.440 I that I grew up enough in what a year 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.920 that I was old enough to date you exactly? 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:54.000 That funny? 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:58.080 That is funny, man. I remember you and I we 0:14:58.120 --> 0:14:58.520 got along. 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.880 You're right, we got along very very well, and then 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.640 I was just so nervous around you for the next 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:05.560 couple episodes. 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.120 I just remember being very, yeah, very nervous around you 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:09.800 for the next couple episodes. Yeah. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.320 Your first episode was Model Family, which, as Will was mentioning, 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.600 you're in the infamous lobster costume scene at the mall. 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:22.000 Uh do you remember working with the lobster suit and 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:22.840 the dunk tank. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.160 I do remember thinking the dunk take was pretty funny, 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:27.320 but yeah, it was. 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:27.640 It was. 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.760 It was a small it was a small part in 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.880 that particular one, but yeah, I remember it being funny. 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.880 I remember the laughs that got from they got from 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:38.160 the writers, which I thought was funny. 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:42.400 It's obviously their idea exactly right, Yeah, right, but it was. 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.320 It was definitely over the top, which I was already 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:44.680 used to. 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.480 So do you remember Kathy Ireland at all? 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:51.080 I do. I remember meeting her, and I remember being 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.880 excited about meeting her, and then I forgot that I 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:54.840 met her until many. 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:56.640 Years later, and I was like, oh, yeah, I was 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:58.360 the same. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:01.000 With the third episode that I did. There were some 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.720 pretty big names on that episode, and I was. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.480 Yeah, yo, yep. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:11.240 That's by far our craziest episode stars just packing it in. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.320 Yeah, and I forgot about mean even I was like, what, Yeah. 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:18.040 I remember when we were shooting the lobster scene. 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.760 So they put me in the lobster suit, and then 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:22.960 they put me up on the seat to go into 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.320 the dunk tank and then had to keep me there 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.320 because taking me down between takes or do it was 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:28.960 just too difficult. 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:30.720 So I just had to sit there and I. 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.640 Was getting super hot, and I was sweating profusely, and 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.760 my face turned bright red. And they pulled the kind 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.520 of the curtain away, and I remember just looking at you, Kelly. 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.160 And your face. You were like, oh my god. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.680 I remember you specifically mouthing like, oh my god, like 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:49.720 you thought I was going to pass out. It was 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.080 like you were I saw on your face. I was like, oh, 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.640 she's legit, worried about how I look right now. This 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:59.520 can't be good. So, yeah, that's such a distinct memory 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:00.240 of that episode. 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.640 Even if nobody else was, I was looking out for you. 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:03.080 Yeah. 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.200 I appreciate that. Thank you so sweet. 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:10.080 So your second episode was also still in the first season. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.720 You were still the character of Tracy's but it was 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.280 the episode It's a Wonderful Night, And now Jason and 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.640 Eric basically steal their parents' car for a double date 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.399 with you and the same other pretty girl from the 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.439 Model Family episode. This is another big set piece with 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.160 a high concept. Do you remember that episode? 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.280 So I do. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.679 All I really remember about that episode was you know, 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.679 playing the mean girl, and I like, you know, I 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.760 thought that was so fun because I hadn't played that yet. 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.520 But yeah, no, I remember. So the guy. 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.800 I was excited because the guy that played the owner 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:44.200 of the. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.359 You know they, John Gibb. 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.480 Yeah, so he was in Revenge of the Nerds. 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.920 Yeah, I mean, I'm a huge I'm a geek when 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:53.960 it comes to meeting people like that. 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:55.840 So I remember being very excited about that. 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:57.720 Do you remember we talked to him for a while. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.399 We were asking him all like the Revenge of the 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.480 Nerds question and he loved talking about it. So we 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.320 sat there with him for like an hour, just throwing 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.000 Revenge in the Nerds questions at him. 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.480 Yeah, do you remember that? And I was very excited 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:10.000 to meet him. 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:16.040 So your third episode that we mentioned somehow another massive 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:20.399 set piece, this time in season two, The Thrilla in Philla, 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:25.480 which involved a wrestling match with Big Bad Vader Robert 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:30.080 goolay yasmin Belief Blake sent it in a singlet and 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.040 a young Adam Scott. 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.240 So in this one is now where you. 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.840 Are apparently a different character and you are Corey's new 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:43.639 jock girlfriend he needs to impress, named Candy. I have 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:47.320 no idea how you ended up on three totally unhinged episodes. 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:54.000 Did you have to audition for Candy or do you 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:55.320 think did you just get the call? 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.320 I think I just got the call at that point. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.560 I don't remember auditioning for it at all. And so 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.680 when I all the script and saw what I was playing, I'm. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:02.600 Like, yes, this is fun. 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:04.920 Yeah, so much fun. 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:05.879 Yeah. 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.399 Do you remember anything about the wrestling ring or the 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.520 you know anything about that's those scenes. 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:13.000 I just remember that it was a big ordeal. It 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.399 took a long time. There was a lot of waiting 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.320 because they were doing lighting and it was hot. I 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:19.880 remember that, and. 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.520 Then they just they literally would bring like Robert Leigh 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:24.760 on like last minute because he was such a big star. 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:27.760 It was so awesome. 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.320 But yeah, no, I just remember it took a long time. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:31.160 It was do you. 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:34.760