Speaker 1: So one of my favorite current artists is this singer
Speaker 1: songwriter named John Craigie.
Speaker 2: Do you guys know.
Speaker 1: He's amazing, He's awesome. I've seen him a couple of
Speaker 1: times a concert. I'm gonna see him coming up. You
Speaker 1: would you would hate him, Danielle.
Speaker 3: Seeing Bob Dylan esque.
Speaker 4: Yes, Scott it.
Speaker 1: Very much in the Bob Dylan, in the Bob Dylan mold,
Speaker 1: but very self consciously so. I mean even has a
Speaker 1: song called too Much Dylan. Okay, Anyway, he put on
Speaker 1: an album like two years ago called mermaid Salt, which
Speaker 1: is just brilliant and beautiful. The lyrics are insane and
Speaker 1: it's like a it's a great vibe. I just spent
Speaker 1: like my entire summer listening to it that year and
Speaker 1: like great album. So I highly recommend that. But I
Speaker 1: discovered him a few years ago through this song that
Speaker 1: he has. It's a from a live album called Opening
Speaker 1: for Steinbeck and the first song is the song called
Speaker 1: Dissecting the Bird and it starts to just.
Speaker 5: Be called all for Rider. Every thing you said so
Speaker 5: far is so Rider strong.
Speaker 4: It's unbelieve.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yes, here's the thing. He's he's he's he's become a
Speaker 1: very serious songwriter. And it's like I said, the lyrics
Speaker 1: are incredible and deep and nice, but he's actually very funny,
Speaker 1: and he has an on stage presence it's really reminiscent
Speaker 1: of Mitch Hedberg. He has this sort of like really clever,
Speaker 1: witty asides that he just sort of throws out there
Speaker 1: and just it kills. So he's he's hysterical and he
Speaker 1: this song, Dissecting the Bird starts off and it's the
Speaker 1: opening of this concert that he's doing, and you know,
Speaker 1: the music starts and the first verse is all about
Speaker 1: how nervous he is to be singing and that he
Speaker 1: doesn't feel prepared and he knows his voice isn't very
Speaker 1: good and he's afraid his fly is open, and you
Speaker 1: can hear the audience like kind of laughing, like is
Speaker 1: this is this part of the song? Say what is this?
Speaker 1: And then he drops into the chorus and the chorus
Speaker 1: is you're doing it wrong, dissecting the bird, trying to
Speaker 1: find the song. It's a miracle that we're here at all,
Speaker 1: and it's like, wow, that's kind of cool. And then
Speaker 1: he goes into the second verse and it's all about
Speaker 1: how he takes it to like, I can't believe I'm
Speaker 1: singing in front of you people, Like my last job
Speaker 1: was picking up trash in a parking lot. Nobody would
Speaker 1: watch me do that. I'm so lucky that you're here
Speaker 1: to listen to me sing, you know. And then he
Speaker 1: goes into the verse again like you're doing it wrong,
Speaker 1: dissecting the bird, trying to find the song. It's a
Speaker 1: miracle that we're here at all. And the audience is
Speaker 1: like starting to go on his side. You can hear
Speaker 1: them like, oh okay. And then he just goes into
Speaker 1: this amazing verse where he takes it all the way
Speaker 1: back to you know, the human history and world events
Speaker 1: that have led us to be here in this moment,
Speaker 1: and it gets more and more like poetic and beautiful,
Speaker 1: where he's like, you know, all these things had to happen,
Speaker 1: like diseases and cells, and your parents at some point
Speaker 1: had to meet and stay together just long enough to
Speaker 1: make some love and give you a name, and you know,
Speaker 1: now you're here, and it's just like and he goes
Speaker 1: into this thing where it's like in the audience is
Speaker 1: just so with him, and then he brings back the chorus,
Speaker 1: which is you know, you're doing it wrong, dissecting the
Speaker 1: bird trying to find the song, and it's hysterical and
Speaker 1: kind of strangely beautiful and wonderful and all the things
Speaker 1: that I love it. And it was the first song
Speaker 1: I ever heard of his that got me into him. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard it for years, and then I heard
Speaker 1: it just the other day, and suddenly I could I
Speaker 1: was listening to it in the framework of this podcast,
Speaker 1: you know, and this tendency that we have because of
Speaker 1: what we're doing to be you know, dissecting boy meets
Speaker 1: World and pulling it apart. And in a way, it's
Speaker 1: the same thing, right we're dissecting the bird, trying to
Speaker 1: find the song, and I suddenly could just hear this,
Speaker 1: this this journey that this song goes on in the
Speaker 1: context of like what we're doing. And in the same way,
Speaker 1: we're like nervous about our performances, we're critical of ourselves,
Speaker 1: and then we also have this other side, like in
Speaker 1: his second verse, where we're like, but you know what's amazing,
Speaker 1: like that we had this hit show and that anybody's
Speaker 1: listening to us, And anyway, you guys should go listen
Speaker 1: to it. I recommend it to all of our listeners too,
Speaker 1: And it's just like I just it was. It was
Speaker 1: so funny to re encounter this song and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is much much like this song in our experience
Speaker 1: with this podcast. Like it's a miracle that we're here,
Speaker 1: you know, and like we get over analytical, we get
Speaker 1: we were hard on ourselves, we're hard on the show,
Speaker 1: but like I am so grateful and so happy and
Speaker 1: like it's it. It truly is so heartwarming that we
Speaker 1: get to do this and we're going to continue to
Speaker 1: dissect the bird. But you know, there really is a
Speaker 1: song that that that was there and then you know,
Speaker 1: the Boy Meets World is great and this podcast is
Speaker 1: so great and our listeners are amazing. Yes, it's it's
Speaker 1: something if anybody wants to hear a funny and good song,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a journey.
Speaker 6: It's fun.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going to have to go take a listen
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 7: I was worried that you were going to say, so
Speaker 7: we're doing it wrong and this will be our last episode.
Speaker 3: The reason we do the podcast. You're the one who
Speaker 3: came up with the idea. At any point, you could
Speaker 3: pull the plug, I guess, so, you.
Speaker 1: Know, no, that's the thing. It's like, you know, we're
Speaker 1: all we're doing is Monday Morning quarterbacking. Yeah, yeah, metaphors
Speaker 1: trying here you go. Yeah, and you know, so it's
Speaker 1: always there's always this tension here. But I just I
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: I would I would add one caveat to that. We're
Speaker 5: Monday Morning quarterbacking our own quarterback performance, which is different.
Speaker 5: It's different than sitting there and watching a game that
Speaker 5: you were sitting on your couch you had nothing to
Speaker 5: do with, and then money moon a quarterbacking. We are
Speaker 5: overly critical and overly harsh, but we're criticizing ourselves, which
Speaker 5: I think is a little bit different than just Strand.
Speaker 4: Enter team. Absolutely absolutely, and we.
Speaker 5: Could be overly harsh with that, but I think we
Speaker 5: get a little bit of a break because it is
Speaker 5: that we're analyzing something that we've done totally.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but the only reason we get to even
Speaker 1: do that is because, yeah, and also just that you know,
Speaker 1: our fans are willing to come along with us, you
Speaker 1: know that. Yet people have endured, like you know, all
Speaker 1: these thirty years, you know, with Boy Meets World and
Speaker 1: shared it with their kids or their friends and their communities.
Speaker 1: And now that's this community that we have with this podcast.
Speaker 1: It's so heartwarm and it's so wonderful.
Speaker 4: I was worried start a season five. I'll be honest,
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 5: I was getting worried, and now I'm getting more hopeful again.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, we we you know, the shows and
Speaker 5: flows like any good show.
Speaker 7: Again.
Speaker 5: We also as as the resident TV lover here and
Speaker 5: not I wouldn't say expert, but real TV lover, just
Speaker 5: getting into the category of having a show that lasts
Speaker 5: this long and so rare that being able to say, hey,
Speaker 5: we did one hundred and fifty eight amazing episodes that
Speaker 5: no one in the history of television has ever been
Speaker 5: able to say that.
Speaker 4: There's no such thing. It doesn't exist.
Speaker 5: There's bad episodes of Friends, the Office, Seinfeld, you name it.
Speaker 5: There's episodes. That's just the way it is. So we
Speaker 5: might be overly harsh on it, but that's what.
Speaker 1: We do what we're here for.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 5: And I got to listen to Bob Dylan, the new
Speaker 5: Bob Dylan Guy, Johnny Kraeger, John Craigie Craigie, John Craig's amazing.
Speaker 7: Well, thank you for being here for this episode of
Speaker 7: Podmeets World. I'm Daniel Vishel, I'm Right or Strong, and
Speaker 7: I'm Wilfred. The landscape of nineties family television was, at
Speaker 7: its core pretty simple. You had your Saturday morning cartoons
Speaker 7: Bobby's World, Recess or Rugrats, and then you had your
Speaker 7: primetime family sitcoms Full House, Family Matters or Yes, Boy
Speaker 7: Meets World. But then there was something else, something completely different,
Speaker 7: a hybrid of sorts, the Saturday morning family sitcom, the
Speaker 7: urducan of Kids.
Speaker 4: TV, Yeah, Fish Steakins.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 7: And this week we are talking to one of the
Speaker 7: true pioneers of this combo.
Speaker 3: And it's a long time coming.
Speaker 7: Because she's a familiar face to our rewatch, appearing three
Speaker 7: times on Boy Meets World in season one as Tracy
Speaker 7: in Model Family and It's a Wonderful Night, then returning
Speaker 7: for season two as Candy for the Hectic Thrilla in Phila.
Speaker 7: For those keeping score at home, she is not in
Speaker 7: the three timers club since she was named Tracy twice,
Speaker 7: but she is the first inductee into a totally different
Speaker 7: club that we're excited to announce during this episode.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 7: Further extending her nineties legacy. She'd appear on The Wonder Years,
Speaker 7: Step by Step and Blossom, then became a series regular
Speaker 7: on the iconic Baywatch, donning the red swimsuit for three
Speaker 7: seasons as lifeguard April Gaminski. But it was her time
Speaker 7: on the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell that was
Speaker 7: California Dreams, a spiritual Sister to Save by the Bell
Speaker 7: that was part of the TNBC Saturday morning block and
Speaker 7: would forever cement her into the Decades Hall of Fame.
Speaker 7: She was the bass player for the fictional titular band
Speaker 7: Tiffany and Smith for five seasons, and it's still a real,
Speaker 7: if you know you know type of fandom, so much
Speaker 7: so that they recently reunited for two very special nights
Speaker 7: to perform as a real band, singing songs from the
Speaker 7: original show that fans still remembered.
Speaker 3: Every word too.
Speaker 1: Does actually play their instruments and sing Yes, I had
Speaker 1: no idea, I don't know.
Speaker 3: By the fact did that.
Speaker 7: The show is complete, unstreamable in twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 7: people still knew all the words. Oh yeah, let that
Speaker 7: sing in so please Welcome to Pod Meets World. The
Speaker 7: three B Queen Bass, Baywatch and Boy Meets World. It's
Speaker 7: Kelly Packard. Y guys, Oh my gosh, so good to see.
Speaker 2: You, see you, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 7: So we just talked about in your intro that you
Speaker 7: guys recently did two nights where you performed as a
Speaker 7: real band.
Speaker 3: Boy did did you.
Speaker 7: All play your instruments back in the day? Did you
Speaker 7: guys all like, were you guys a real band?
Speaker 2: No? So we that was not us playing the instruments.
Speaker 8: However, Brentley could play the guitar that well and better,
Speaker 8: but the rest of us could not. I was faking
Speaker 8: playing the bass, but I'm definitely us singing.
Speaker 7: H We are so happy to have you as you
Speaker 7: were one of our favorite faces to see during seasons
Speaker 7: one and two of our rewatch, and we know that
Speaker 7: you've been, you know, recently revisiting your childhood acting as well.
Speaker 7: So you are a perfect fit for our podcast. So
Speaker 7: let's start with you being on Boy Meets World. You
Speaker 7: appeared on three episodes as two different characters, a bit
Speaker 7: of a write of passage for our show.
Speaker 3: Do you remember any of the auditions?
Speaker 8: I vaguely remember the auditions, but I know when the
Speaker 8: first audition happened. I just know how excited I was
Speaker 8: because I loved the show, and when I booked that,
Speaker 8: I was like awesome. And then I obviously left an
Speaker 8: impression because they just kept asking me back and I
Speaker 8: found that flattering.
Speaker 7: So and you had already at the time, by the
Speaker 7: time you came to us on Boy Meets World, you
Speaker 7: had already guest starred on Wonder Years, Blossom and Step
Speaker 7: by Step. Were you just doing like endless rounds of
Speaker 7: auditions during that time?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 8: Yes, I started when I was eight years old, and
Speaker 8: the auditions that I did from eight to thirty team
Speaker 8: would blow your minds. But then when I turned thirteen,
Speaker 8: things just kind of started happening, and I started getting
Speaker 8: guest spots on things like Wonder Years, in Blossom and
Speaker 8: Baywatch and then you guys, and so it just from
Speaker 8: then on, I didn't really have to audition as much.
Speaker 8: I still did have to audition, but as much as
Speaker 8: when I was younger.
Speaker 3: So do you remember joining our show for a week?
Speaker 7: Did you enjoy being a guest star on Boy Meets
Speaker 7: World very much?
Speaker 8: I didn't obviously get quite as close to you, Danielle
Speaker 8: and you writer, but Will and I.
Speaker 2: Got pretty close.
Speaker 8: We were really friends, and so we just hit it
Speaker 8: off from the first time I was on, and so
Speaker 8: I was exciting to go back and see him every time.
Speaker 5: It was well, I also remember you were also you
Speaker 5: came on on. The first episode we did together. Was
Speaker 5: kind of a hectic week because it started with I
Speaker 5: wish I'd remember his name was the first time Marsden
Speaker 5: came on and was he replaced the sod. We had
Speaker 5: rehearsed all week long with one person playing Eric's best friend,
Speaker 5: and then like the day of the shoot, Marsden came
Speaker 5: in and took the job over. So we kind of
Speaker 5: all looked at each other like, all right, we're doing
Speaker 5: this again, and we had to re rehearse everything and
Speaker 5: kind of get it back into our feet again with
Speaker 5: a whole I mean, Jason brings a whole different energy
Speaker 5: to the set. So it was kind of like, oh, okay, well,
Speaker 5: I guess we're doing it.
Speaker 4: We're ratchet it up.
Speaker 1: And not starting out all over.
Speaker 4: It was we really did, and.
Speaker 5: I think he came in the day of the shoot. Yeah, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: so we were kind of it was thrown on our
Speaker 5: feet right away.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but he's such a professional I don't know that
Speaker 8: anybody else could have really done that besides him.
Speaker 2: So yeah, dout great.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So you do not know this, but we are
Speaker 7: here to commemorate a mind blowing achievement you pulled off
Speaker 7: in the nineties, and you, I think, are the only
Speaker 7: person we know to have accomplished this feat. You played
Speaker 7: Susan Fisher on The Wonder Years, a love interest for
Speaker 7: Kevin arn't Old, played by Fred Savage, and then you
Speaker 7: came to Boy Meets World as Tracy, the love interest
Speaker 7: of Ben Savage, officially making you the only temptress for
Speaker 7: both Savage brothers.
Speaker 2: Really, that's funny.
Speaker 3: Would you like to give an acceptance speech of any kind?
Speaker 8: Or it's those Savage boys that just kept meet you
Speaker 8: working and I open everything. No, I think actually, if
Speaker 8: I'm not mistaken, because I was thinking about it, and Tracy,
Speaker 8: I think was more was the love interest of you
Speaker 8: will and then Andy was Ben right?
Speaker 4: And I think you're right. Yes, I think you're right.
Speaker 8: I found that interesting that I had you know that
Speaker 8: I that I grew up enough in what a year
Speaker 8: that I was old enough to date you exactly?
Speaker 2: That funny?
Speaker 4: That is funny, man. I remember you and I we
Speaker 4: got along.
Speaker 5: You're right, we got along very very well, and then
Speaker 5: I was just so nervous around you for the next
Speaker 5: couple episodes.
Speaker 4: I just remember being very, yeah, very nervous around you
Speaker 4: for the next couple episodes. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Your first episode was Model Family, which, as Will was mentioning,
Speaker 7: you're in the infamous lobster costume scene at the mall.
Speaker 7: Uh do you remember working with the lobster suit and
Speaker 7: the dunk tank.
Speaker 8: I do remember thinking the dunk take was pretty funny,
Speaker 8: but yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 8: It was a small it was a small part in
Speaker 8: that particular one, but yeah, I remember it being funny.
Speaker 8: I remember the laughs that got from they got from
Speaker 8: the writers, which I thought was funny.
Speaker 2: It's obviously their idea exactly right, Yeah, right, but it was.
Speaker 2: It was definitely over the top, which I was already
Speaker 2: used to.
Speaker 3: So do you remember Kathy Ireland at all?
Speaker 8: I do. I remember meeting her, and I remember being
Speaker 8: excited about meeting her, and then I forgot that I
Speaker 8: met her until many.
Speaker 2: Years later, and I was like, oh, yeah, I was
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 8: With the third episode that I did. There were some
Speaker 8: pretty big names on that episode, and I was.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yo, yep.
Speaker 1: That's by far our craziest episode stars just packing it in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I forgot about mean even I was like, what, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I remember when we were shooting the lobster scene.
Speaker 5: So they put me in the lobster suit, and then
Speaker 5: they put me up on the seat to go into
Speaker 5: the dunk tank and then had to keep me there
Speaker 5: because taking me down between takes or do it was
Speaker 5: just too difficult.
Speaker 4: So I just had to sit there and I.
Speaker 5: Was getting super hot, and I was sweating profusely, and
Speaker 5: my face turned bright red. And they pulled the kind
Speaker 5: of the curtain away, and I remember just looking at you, Kelly.
Speaker 4: And your face. You were like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: I remember you specifically mouthing like, oh my god, like
Speaker 5: you thought I was going to pass out. It was
Speaker 5: like you were I saw on your face. I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: she's legit, worried about how I look right now. This
Speaker 5: can't be good. So, yeah, that's such a distinct memory
Speaker 5: of that episode.
Speaker 2: Even if nobody else was, I was looking out for you.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Thank you so sweet.
Speaker 7: So your second episode was also still in the first season.
Speaker 7: You were still the character of Tracy's but it was
Speaker 7: the episode It's a Wonderful Night, And now Jason and
Speaker 7: Eric basically steal their parents' car for a double date
Speaker 7: with you and the same other pretty girl from the
Speaker 7: Model Family episode. This is another big set piece with
Speaker 7: a high concept. Do you remember that episode?
Speaker 2: So I do.
Speaker 8: All I really remember about that episode was you know,
Speaker 8: playing the mean girl, and I like, you know, I
Speaker 8: thought that was so fun because I hadn't played that yet.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I remember. So the guy.
Speaker 8: I was excited because the guy that played the owner
Speaker 8: of the.
Speaker 3: You know they, John Gibb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was in Revenge of the Nerds.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I'm a huge I'm a geek when
Speaker 8: it comes to meeting people like that.
Speaker 2: So I remember being very excited about that.
Speaker 4: Do you remember we talked to him for a while.
Speaker 5: We were asking him all like the Revenge of the
Speaker 5: Nerds question and he loved talking about it. So we
Speaker 5: sat there with him for like an hour, just throwing
Speaker 5: Revenge in the Nerds questions at him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you remember that? And I was very excited
Speaker 2: to meet him.
Speaker 7: So your third episode that we mentioned somehow another massive
Speaker 7: set piece, this time in season two, The Thrilla in Philla,
Speaker 7: which involved a wrestling match with Big Bad Vader Robert
Speaker 7: goolay yasmin Belief Blake sent it in a singlet and
Speaker 7: a young Adam Scott.
Speaker 3: So in this one is now where you.
Speaker 7: Are apparently a different character and you are Corey's new
Speaker 7: jock girlfriend he needs to impress, named Candy. I have
Speaker 7: no idea how you ended up on three totally unhinged episodes.
Speaker 1: Did you have to audition for Candy or do you
Speaker 1: think did you just get the call?
Speaker 8: I think I just got the call at that point.
Speaker 8: I don't remember auditioning for it at all. And so
Speaker 8: when I all the script and saw what I was playing, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, yes, this is fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so much fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Do you remember anything about the wrestling ring or the
Speaker 7: you know anything about that's those scenes.
Speaker 2: I just remember that it was a big ordeal. It
Speaker 2: took a long time. There was a lot of waiting
Speaker 2: because they were doing lighting and it was hot. I
Speaker 2: remember that, and.
Speaker 8: Then they just they literally would bring like Robert Leigh
Speaker 8: on like last minute because he was such a big star.
Speaker 4: It was so awesome.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I just remember it took a long time.
Speaker 1: It was do you.
Speaker 5: Remember Yasmine Bleef being there because she doesn't remember being there.
Speaker 8: I swear to you I don't and to the point
Speaker 8: where I would have talked to her about it on
Speaker 8: the show or when we went to Dubai together. I
Speaker 8: did not remember that she had that little bit on
Speaker 8: it isn't that fun?
Speaker 3: Wait, you went to Dubai with Yasmine Bleef?
Speaker 2: I did. I did.
Speaker 8: When I first got Baywatch, we did this celebrity Arabian
Speaker 8: adventure in Dubai and she and I were co hosts
Speaker 8: with Jason Hervey and.
Speaker 2: I think Ricky rick Ca. Ricky her boyfriend at.
Speaker 8: The time, and so we all went to Dubai together,
Speaker 8: and I swear to I remembered that we were on
Speaker 8: Boyman's World together.
Speaker 2: I would have talked to.
Speaker 3: Her about it.
Speaker 7: Well, I only wish you did, because she would have
Speaker 7: said I was not on it.
Speaker 5: She she has she said several times I was not
Speaker 5: on that show, and we're like, you realized we were
Speaker 5: actually taping it.
Speaker 7: Right, I mean, I would like to go on the
Speaker 7: record to give her some cut her some slack and
Speaker 7: say I also.
Speaker 3: Didn't remember being in that episode. I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: not in that episode.
Speaker 7: And then everyone was like, you're sitting right there, You're you,
Speaker 7: that's you, And I'm like, oh, that is me.
Speaker 1: So she might also not remember Dubai though.
Speaker 2: So right, yeah, no.
Speaker 1: I mean the reality she was probably on set for
Speaker 1: forty five minutes. She probably just showed up. They rushed
Speaker 1: her in. It was a big guest star. She was like,
Speaker 1: what am I doing? What is the show? Wake out
Speaker 1: with Adam Scott and then get out?
Speaker 6: Yeah, rightly, so funny.
Speaker 7: Well, before we put you into totally insane situations for
Speaker 7: Boy Meets World, you were cast a star in a
Speaker 7: beloved Saturday morning sitcom called California Dreams, part of NBC's
Speaker 7: strategy to repeat the success of Saved by the Bell. Now,
Speaker 7: when it came to auditioning, were they looking to put
Speaker 7: together an actual band? I know you said you didn't
Speaker 7: actually play the bass, So what was your audition like
Speaker 7: for that? And did they care at all that you
Speaker 7: didn't play the instruments?
Speaker 8: So yes, they from the get go, you had to
Speaker 8: be able to sing, okay, to be even auditioned. So
Speaker 8: I could sing. I wasn't great at singing, but I
Speaker 8: could sing. So I went in for the audition and
Speaker 8: I had nine auditions total, five of which were in
Speaker 8: the music studio.
Speaker 2: Wow. First two totally great, like I had fun.
Speaker 8: But I remember being there with Jenny, who has had
Speaker 8: come from Miss Saigone to give you an.
Speaker 2: Idea her voice, and I was like, oh, what am
Speaker 2: I doing here?
Speaker 8: And then Heidi came in and sang like a Whitney
Speaker 8: song and I was like, hey, just get me out
Speaker 8: of here. I do, but anyway, I sang the first
Speaker 8: two times and then the third and fourth time that
Speaker 8: I went in, I had strep throat and I want
Speaker 8: to say, like mono, I had no no, and I
Speaker 8: just remember thinking, please see past this, Please see past this.
Speaker 2: And sure enough we did see past it.
Speaker 8: And my producer was so grateful that I actually could sing,
Speaker 8: because all he remembered was that audition where I was like, ah,
Speaker 8: it sounded like I kind of do now. But anyway,
Speaker 8: so it was very important to them that we sang.
Speaker 8: And the day that I signed my NBC contract, I
Speaker 8: also signed a contract with MCA, so it was really
Speaker 8: a dream come true.
Speaker 7: Oh cool, Yeah, that's unbelievable. And this was a large
Speaker 7: ensemble cast of young actors. Did you guys all get
Speaker 7: along immediately?
Speaker 2: We did. We did. We were all young and stupid,
Speaker 2: but yes we did.
Speaker 8: I consider them still family, but at the time it
Speaker 8: was literally like we were being thrown together with our
Speaker 8: brothers and sisters.
Speaker 2: So just which you guys, can I'm sure relate?
Speaker 4: Where did you film?
Speaker 2: We?
Speaker 8: So we started at NBC, which was awesome because we
Speaker 8: were right next to Fresh Prince. I would go over
Speaker 8: to the Night Show like all kinds of fun stuff,
Speaker 8: and then we switched to Gower for the last two seasons.
Speaker 4: Gotcha?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 7: Some of the folklore of the Sacred Saved by the
Speaker 7: Bell is about how they all dated each other.
Speaker 3: Was that the same thing over on the California Dream Set?
Speaker 2: Oh? I can't speak for anyone else. Okay, Yes, there was.
Speaker 8: Some messing around. I wouldn't say dating. I would not
Speaker 8: say dating. However, I'm proud to say I did date
Speaker 8: Mark Paul for two weeks to fame. But so they
Speaker 8: were shooting next door on New Class and so we
Speaker 8: kind of got to know each other and dated for
Speaker 8: a whopping two weeks.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's a long time in the business.
Speaker 2: It's a long time.
Speaker 3: That's a long time. Exactly how old were you?
Speaker 1: How old were you at this point.
Speaker 4: Were you eighteen or were you still?
Speaker 2: I was? No, was I over eighteen when I met
Speaker 2: Mark Paul.
Speaker 8: I don't think I was. I think I was still seventeen.
Speaker 8: So I had just turned seventeen when I got.
Speaker 7: The part we love Mark Paul around here akaa James Vanderbates.
Speaker 4: James Baker.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Mark Paul was so good on Dawson's Creek that
Speaker 5: it's like we still we still talk about.
Speaker 4: It to this day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did not say that.
Speaker 5: Oh no, we did, Daniel. I did say that to him.
Speaker 5: That was part of this. Happened mid interview.
Speaker 7: Well, to make it worse, I had asked him, does
Speaker 7: he ever get mistaken for someone else? Because we all sometimes,
Speaker 7: you know, we're all told oh I loved you on
Speaker 7: Full House or oh I loved you on shows we
Speaker 7: were never on. So I asked him if that ever
Speaker 7: happens to him, and he said he gets mistaken for
Speaker 7: James Vanderbek and I was like, oh, I don't really
Speaker 7: see it. And then later was like, I saw a
Speaker 7: great social media clip of you and he was like,
Speaker 7: that was James Anderby, that was James.
Speaker 4: She literally did it mid interview. It was I couldn't
Speaker 4: have been scripted any better than it was.
Speaker 3: The most cringe moment.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really.
Speaker 2: He's a good sport.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yea, he is.
Speaker 3: He is a very good sport. He's been very kind
Speaker 3: to me about that.
Speaker 7: So most of the songs for California Dreams were composed
Speaker 7: by Steve Tyrrell, who is a Grammy winner for his
Speaker 7: work with Rod Stewart. He produced Hooked on a Feeling
Speaker 7: and rain Drops Keep Falling on My Head, both of
Speaker 7: which are bops. But most importantly, he wrote how do
Speaker 7: You Talk to an Angel? By The Heights aka Jamie Walters,
Speaker 7: which should have won him the pullitzer.
Speaker 4: Did you do you know who else was in that band? Who?
Speaker 4: Alex Day's heir? He was on the Heights? Yes, he's
Speaker 4: on the Hikes.
Speaker 5: That was where Alex was was was one of the
Speaker 5: members of the band that sings how do you Talk
Speaker 5: to an Angel? Yeah, that's that's our connection with the
Speaker 5: Heights baby. Oh yeah. And he did not like when
Speaker 5: I sung that song to him. I will tell you
Speaker 5: I went up to him on time. I was like,
Speaker 5: how do you talk? He's like no, I was like, oh, go.
Speaker 1: Same on it? Or did he just play an instrument.
Speaker 5: I said, well, no, he's part of the like he's
Speaker 5: part of the band in the Heights, so it was
Speaker 5: he was on the show as part of the band.
Speaker 4: So I was one of like their hit songs. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he did not like me singing it to him.
Speaker 7: Kelly, did you like the music from the show back
Speaker 7: when you were filming?
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 8: And it's really funny because we've done these reunion concerts
Speaker 8: and the music really stands up, like there are several
Speaker 8: songs that I could hear on the radio today. It's
Speaker 8: really impressive. I didn't love my songs because I got
Speaker 8: the more bubblegum type songs. I always wanted Heidi's songs.
Speaker 8: So now for these concerts, I kind of do that.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I'm taking that one get hers.
Speaker 2: But no, it's really good music.
Speaker 8: And the theme song, I think it's been like named
Speaker 8: like top five most memorable theme songs.
Speaker 5: I can see that. I can totally see that. That
Speaker 5: makes sense. It is one of those the second you
Speaker 5: hear it, you know what it is.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, at least a certain age group or my kids,
Speaker 8: because watch it now.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, how old are your kids?
Speaker 2: So I have four?
Speaker 8: I range you from twenty all the way down to
Speaker 8: my youngest just turned twelve. Of you today, today's your birthday, Happy.
Speaker 4: Birthday, every birthday.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 7: What do they think about seeing you on TV? What
Speaker 7: do they think about your career?
Speaker 2: Well, luckily I was on shows that they can watch,
Speaker 2: and they love California Dreams. They kind of know it
Speaker 2: inside and out.
Speaker 8: They know it better than I do, to be honest,
Speaker 8: And they call Michael uncle Michael, they call Jenny and Jenny.
Speaker 2: They don't know any different.
Speaker 4: And it's cool.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And it's been really fun doing these concerts because
Speaker 8: they get to see me in this.
Speaker 2: Light that they don't know me as right.
Speaker 8: So New York, we're up on stage singing and they
Speaker 8: were just like, what's happening?
Speaker 2: That's my mom?
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: So fun.
Speaker 7: We're going to get to the reunion shows soon. But
Speaker 7: first I want to know, do you have a favorite
Speaker 7: California Dreams episode?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question. Probably.
Speaker 8: Well that's a trick question because there was one where
Speaker 8: I got to do the classic Jesse span out, you know,
Speaker 8: when she was on like meds or whatever.
Speaker 2: I was on steroids, Tiffany. That one was fun, you know,
Speaker 2: play a little different something.
Speaker 8: But I loved the ones where people would not realize that,
Speaker 8: like we were laughing throughout the entire episode. So there's
Speaker 8: one called Elu Shoe Flu where Michael dressed us up
Speaker 8: as a germ and it was so stupid that we
Speaker 8: just we keep our pants laughing and so those degrees that,
Speaker 8: and I can watch that episode and see all of
Speaker 8: us laughing and they couldn't cut it out.
Speaker 3: Couldn't couldn't edit around it.
Speaker 7: Wait, I have to know, well what you're doing on
Speaker 7: staircu thank you, thank you to the steroids press.
Speaker 4: It's so many questions, So thank you Danielle.
Speaker 8: Because Tiffany played volleyball guys, and so to get your
Speaker 8: edge at volleyball, Sly gave her some steroids and then
Speaker 8: I got addicted to them and had a rooid rage
Speaker 8: in the whole nine yards.
Speaker 2: Yes, good, it really was good. I can't stand watching
Speaker 2: it because I'm like.
Speaker 3: Oh God, that was terrible, But it happens. What happens
Speaker 3: in your rage.
Speaker 8: I throw all the dishes off the table, I pin
Speaker 8: Sly up to the locker.
Speaker 2: Totally believable. So yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4: Wow, Thank thank you Danielle.
Speaker 8: I needed to know that you guys remember your I
Speaker 8: want to say he was assistant director, may have directed then.
Speaker 2: But Patrick Maloney, do you guys remember him?
Speaker 4: Of course?
Speaker 2: It's he was our director.
Speaker 8: For two years on California Dreams, and he actually came
Speaker 8: to the last reunion concerts. So I just remember that
Speaker 8: connection and knowing that he was with you guys as well.
Speaker 4: That's really cool. I forget.
Speaker 5: I don't think he actually ever directed an episode on
Speaker 5: the show.
Speaker 4: Okay, but he was.
Speaker 5: I forget what Patrick did, I don't remember, but super
Speaker 5: nice guy and was there all the time, Like I
Speaker 5: think he was there all seven years.
Speaker 2: He might have been like an ad at the time.
Speaker 8: I can't remember, but I just I remember seeing him
Speaker 8: there and then when he came to wait, I know you.
Speaker 4: So yeah, he's a good guy.
Speaker 5: So I should probably tell you that I had just
Speaker 5: moved out to Los Angeles when I did not live
Speaker 5: there long, and you were like one of my first
Speaker 5: crushes when I first moved out to LA I should
Speaker 5: probably I should admit that since you're here. It's yeah,
Speaker 5: I have to tell you. I was what seventeen and
Speaker 5: you were the California girl. It was so so different
Speaker 5: and you guys ever hang out on that side set.
Speaker 8: So I will say I the crush was reciprocated and
Speaker 8: what happened with us and this is the God's honest truth.
Speaker 8: So I was on the first episode and I want
Speaker 8: to say in that moment, I had a boyfriend. But
Speaker 8: then when I went back on again, I was like,
Speaker 8: I'm single, I'm single, and he had a girlfriend.
Speaker 4: Literally kept we kept crossing paths.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, yeah, And so I think that's how it
Speaker 8: went down, and it was really sad.
Speaker 4: I think so too.
Speaker 3: I think it's a tragedy.
Speaker 4: The timing just never worked out.
Speaker 5: But we always we hung out on set and we
Speaker 5: had a lot of fun and you were You were
Speaker 5: always just so nice to me and I very much.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: It's so sweet.
Speaker 7: Well, while researching, we did notice that Fergie appeared on
Speaker 7: California Dreams, as did Tara Reid and Jamie Kennedy. So
Speaker 7: I believe they all tie for most nineties, but were
Speaker 7: any of them most fun?
Speaker 8: I do remember that I don't think I said a
Speaker 8: word to Fergie because I was a fan of hers,
Speaker 8: not as Fergie.
Speaker 2: She wasn't Fergie at the.
Speaker 8: Time, right, Yeah, So I lived on Kids Incorporated.
Speaker 2: Growing up, she was on the show. I was just like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I could.
Speaker 8: I don't think I said a word to her, which
Speaker 8: is again really dumb looking back.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I tell my kids that all the time.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, Fergie is on our show.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we go way back.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Kids Incorporated was a great people for people of a
Speaker 5: certain age. Kids Incorporated was super important. Yes, that was
Speaker 5: a great show. Yes, Oh, such a good show.
Speaker 4: Did you watch three two one Contact as a little
Speaker 4: kid too?
Speaker 2: That one does not ring a bell?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, three two one Contact is another great show.
Speaker 5: That's early early, that's like I was probably five or six. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and that was Hey, that was a great show as well.
Speaker 2: I was watching Jim at five and six.
Speaker 9: I love Jem truly outrageous, great show, great space coaster.
Speaker 4: Yes, of course, okay, good, it's just so funny.
Speaker 3: So when the show ends, do you keep in touch
Speaker 3: with everyone?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: We did.
Speaker 8: We Jenny was in my wedding, Michael came to my wedding,
Speaker 8: William came to my wedding. I stayed in touch with
Speaker 8: everybody except Diana. We kind of lost touch. So when
Speaker 8: I saw her last October. That was really lovely because
Speaker 8: I hadn't seen her since the show rapped. And then
Speaker 8: Jay Jayce moved to Australia probably like five after five
Speaker 8: years after we wrapped, so we kind of lost track
Speaker 8: of him. So getting to see those guys again was
Speaker 8: really fun because I hadn't seen them since we wrapped.
Speaker 8: But Michael, Jenny, Will, Brent were all still really close
Speaker 8: and Heidi. I still talk to Heidi all the time.
Speaker 4: Where was the reunion that you guys did? Where was this?
Speaker 8: So the first one we did was twenty twenty, literally
Speaker 8: the month before COVID happened. That's why I remember it
Speaker 8: so well in LA and it was a huge success,
Speaker 8: so we were like, this is awesome, we should do
Speaker 8: this again. Well, COVID hit and so the last one
Speaker 8: we did was in October of last year, so twenty
Speaker 8: twenty three. We did that in New York and it
Speaker 8: was a success, but it didn't have the same feeling
Speaker 8: as that first one, like a lot of things changed
Speaker 8: during COVID. It just kind of yeah, people a little
Speaker 8: you know, not so sure to.
Speaker 2: Go out still, I don't know.
Speaker 8: But then our last one was just in what are
Speaker 8: we in? So march back in La or May, I
Speaker 8: can't remember. It was recent. These months are going together?
Speaker 1: How did it come together?
Speaker 4: Whose idea was it?
Speaker 1: How did you get the gang back together?
Speaker 2: That is a really good story because it was actually
Speaker 2: my idea, only because only because Jenny and I were
Speaker 2: at a concert.
Speaker 8: I will leave the band unnamed, but it's a very
Speaker 8: well known girl band and they didn't sound great, and
Speaker 8: I was like, we would sound ten times better than them,
Speaker 8: That's literally what I said.
Speaker 2: I was like, we could do this, We could totally
Speaker 2: do this, and she's like, well, we could, but we'd
Speaker 2: have to produce it ourselves, and so that just she
Speaker 2: has a producer's mind.
Speaker 1: I do not.
Speaker 8: But she took on the reins and we produced the
Speaker 8: whole thing ourselves, the first one, second one as well,
Speaker 8: and then the third one. Finally, someone in Atlantic City
Speaker 8: was like, yeah, we'll pay, Yeah, we'll bring you out.
Speaker 2: So if it's anymore, we would like somebody else to do.
Speaker 2: The producer right got to work.
Speaker 4: So all of this came from you all going to
Speaker 4: the Go Gos.
Speaker 10: No they were sorry, but I will say who it
Speaker 10: was because that would be but they were, Yes, they
Speaker 10: were a popular eighties nineties girl band and they did
Speaker 10: not sound good.
Speaker 5: So we do this, but you're gonna but you're gonna
Speaker 5: do another one because this is definitely something I want
Speaker 5: to go see.
Speaker 2: Oh good, Well, we are talking about it, but.
Speaker 8: Again, okay, we need somebody else to fund it because
Speaker 8: for me and Jenny, it was just so much work
Speaker 8: that I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Take that on again.
Speaker 7: Well, the creators, Brett Dewey and Ronald Solomon, have you
Speaker 7: guys reconnected with them with them at all time?
Speaker 2: This just through Instagram and social media to them, and
Speaker 2: they are always so supportive and just so sweet. When
Speaker 2: we post something, they're like, oh, you guys are the best.
Speaker 2: You know, it's really cool.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, we the three of us, know firsthand
Speaker 7: that even at the end of the day, none of
Speaker 7: this could happen without the nostalgic desire of fans. So
Speaker 7: this has been very cathartic for us to regroup and
Speaker 7: talk about our past together. You guys are actually performing
Speaker 7: the songs, so it must.
Speaker 3: Feel just very wild. What is that experience like for you?
Speaker 2: It's really it is wild.
Speaker 8: And I feel like we sound almost better than we
Speaker 8: did back then, and that with the fact that we
Speaker 8: can pull it off is pretty awesome. I again, the
Speaker 8: music stands the test of time.
Speaker 2: It's still really great. And I think if it was
Speaker 2: re released, I think it would be successful, which is
Speaker 2: crazy thirty years later, you know.
Speaker 7: And so you guys aren't playing the instruments. You have
Speaker 7: a band playing the instruments, and you are doing the singing.
Speaker 2: Yes, except Brentley.
Speaker 8: Brentley did do the lead guitar on cast concerts, okay.
Speaker 1: And how many songs are there? How deep is the catalog?
Speaker 2: Forty nine forty nine?
Speaker 3: I believe you have fifty songs?
Speaker 1: And so are there some that you will never play
Speaker 1: because you're like, I don't like this one?
Speaker 4: Or yeah, what's your what's your saint? Stephen?
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a couple. There's one that I sang called
Speaker 8: into the Tube. I mean the name says enough.
Speaker 2: It's like a surf song. It's just really bad. We
Speaker 2: would never.
Speaker 3: Play that, Okay.
Speaker 2: But yeah, for the most part, the rest are pretty great.
Speaker 8: And the fans are so funny because if they know
Speaker 8: our music, they know it and so watching them sing
Speaker 8: all the lyrics at that last concert was just.
Speaker 2: Like, Wow, you know this better than I do. Oh, crazy.
Speaker 5: So I've seen episodes of California Dreams. I haven't seen
Speaker 5: them all, but was there a new song every episode?
Speaker 2: Pretty don close.
Speaker 8: We did seventy five episodes, so there couldn't have been
Speaker 8: one every episode, but I would say every other.
Speaker 2: I mean based on the.
Speaker 4: Map, yeah, geez.
Speaker 2: So we would go in.
Speaker 8: The band would go in like an hour early on
Speaker 8: blocking days specifically and go over the music because we
Speaker 8: would oftentimes just be hearing it because if it was
Speaker 8: one person recording it, they would just go to the
Speaker 8: studio right, So we would all hear it the first
Speaker 8: time on set and then just kind of get to
Speaker 8: know it.
Speaker 2: And it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: Do you have your lyrics memorized or do you have
Speaker 1: to use a teleproger?
Speaker 2: You know, I have all mind memories.
Speaker 8: In fact, I have mind memorized Jenny's memorize because I
Speaker 8: was literally going like this part of the concert telling
Speaker 8: her so of her lyrics, and William got sick and
Speaker 8: couldn't do the one.
Speaker 2: I did his rap, Like I kind of know everybody's.
Speaker 3: Oh so funny awesome.
Speaker 7: I mean you talking about the audience knowing all the words.
Speaker 7: The show is not even the streaming why why is
Speaker 7: it not possible to stream California Dreams.
Speaker 8: So the only thing that makes sense, because it does
Speaker 8: not make sense, especially for Peacock not to have it.
Speaker 2: That's where we were. Yes, the only thing that I
Speaker 2: can think of is there is some sort of music.
Speaker 4: Has to be, has to be, the licensing has to be.
Speaker 8: And that makes sense to me because when they remastered
Speaker 8: bay Watch two hundred episodes, they had to go in
Speaker 8: and redo all the music on Baywatch. So that's the
Speaker 8: only thing I can think of. It's the only thing
Speaker 8: that makes sense. I have gotten zero answers from anybody.
Speaker 8: But that's what makes sense to me, is that somebody
Speaker 8: else music and they're not.
Speaker 4: That's what it is.
Speaker 5: Somebody, some other company owned the music, which he'll pay
Speaker 5: for the show. So the show is owned by somewhere
Speaker 5: in The music has to be. You're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 2: It's got to be too easy to stream the show.
Speaker 4: And Saved by the Bell is out there, right, you
Speaker 4: can stream Save by the Bell.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm saying. We you know, we were
Speaker 2: on their network for five years. There's no reason.
Speaker 4: You're right, it's got to be. The music has to be,
Speaker 4: so we'll see.
Speaker 2: We'll see what they next time?
Speaker 3: Will you cover how do you talk to an angel?
Speaker 2: For us? You sure can would sing that so well?
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, I'm sure. Well I'm gonna be in your
Speaker 4: next concert.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna you're just gonna hear dead silence and you
Speaker 5: just can't hear me go sing into the tube though, too.
Speaker 2: Oh there.
Speaker 7: So I wanted to talk to you about Baywatch. You
Speaker 7: had appeared as many characters on that show over the years,
Speaker 7: but eventually, for seasons eight and nine, you became a
Speaker 7: head lifeguard.
Speaker 3: April Gaminsky. Am I saying that right?
Speaker 2: Correct? Good job?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 7: Who I found this online and tell me if I
Speaker 7: get it wrong. Suffered a mental breakdown after a pregnant
Speaker 7: woman's husband drowns.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was a good episode.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well was that and the steroid use?
Speaker 8: No, no, that I totally forgot about that episode. But
Speaker 8: yeah I had to cry in the shower and Carmen
Speaker 8: Electric was consoling me.
Speaker 2: I forgot about that episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah wait, I'm sorry. I need to stop you again
Speaker 4: real quick. You did a scene where car An.
Speaker 5: Electra Is is consoling you in the shower.
Speaker 2: Shower. Yeah, so now you'll watch it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just such a stream.
Speaker 1: Where's stream?
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, We're all right, you got it?
Speaker 3: Hello, they were in the red bathing suits in the shower.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I've never seen an episode of Baywatch in my life.
Speaker 5: California drums, Yes, but I haven't seen an episode of
Speaker 5: Baywatch in my life.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you might be one of the only people.
Speaker 7: Was there an insane amount of pressure to stay in
Speaker 7: shape for that kind of show?
Speaker 8: Looking back, yes, I was kind of naive to it
Speaker 8: because I was then like I am now, I just
Speaker 8: don't work.
Speaker 2: Out very well.
Speaker 8: But yeah, looking back, I realized, oh, yeah, that was
Speaker 8: I thought. I look back and I thought I was
Speaker 8: fat on the show. It's just fine, I'm sorry. At
Speaker 8: the time, I thought I was right and to look
Speaker 8: like that in a red swimsuit again. But no, there
Speaker 8: clearly was a lot of pressure just by the women
Speaker 8: that were around you. And then I know that there
Speaker 8: was limitations on craft service, so clearly people had problems.
Speaker 8: And I remember I was on the show the first
Speaker 8: time when I was thirteen, so thirteen years old, and
Speaker 8: I remember saying to Erica Lenyak how beautiful she was
Speaker 8: and how I loved her body, like the thirteen I
Speaker 8: think of my thirteen year old or twelve year old
Speaker 8: was soon to be thirteen, and like I was, I
Speaker 8: was absorbed with that and looking at that, looking like that,
Speaker 8: and it's crazy, crazy to think. And there was clauses
Speaker 8: in our contract that said we couldn't gain any weight.
Speaker 8: I do remember that, couldn't make any physical changes really
Speaker 8: at all. And there were some women that struggled with that.
Speaker 4: So well, yeah, because they're human.
Speaker 3: I mean, my god, right, oh, I know, I know
Speaker 3: it's we got to.
Speaker 5: Talk to you about how we looked her, about our hair,
Speaker 5: stuff like that, but there was I mean, I can
Speaker 5: speak for myself. There's no clause in my contract about
Speaker 5: how I looked. I mean, I can certainly say.
Speaker 2: That though every week.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean I will say we all had,
Speaker 7: without realizing it necessarily, we all had morality contracts.
Speaker 3: Oh you know, there were there were.
Speaker 7: There's morality clauses in our that if we ever did
Speaker 7: something maybe illegal, or.
Speaker 4: Something arrested or got arrested or did.
Speaker 7: Something something that they could say, you are no longer
Speaker 7: a good representation for our company and we can let
Speaker 7: you go.
Speaker 8: So that makes sense though, Yeah, yeah, weren't you ABC Family?
Speaker 2: You weres family, right, we were ABC? Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 2: that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes.
Speaker 7: What was it like behind the scenes being such a
Speaker 7: fixture of Americana and dealing with egos and actors who
Speaker 7: at times were larger than life.
Speaker 2: Again, looking back, it was crazy. I just remember.
Speaker 8: I remember my husband coming down to the set in
Speaker 8: our I think we had a Honda Civic maybe maybe
Speaker 8: a Honda Accord.
Speaker 2: And he parks it next to my trailer and then
Speaker 2: incomes Nick. He's six in his Ferrari next dots and
Speaker 2: there's like.
Speaker 3: Really, could you pop somewhere else else?
Speaker 2: But no?
Speaker 8: And then I do remember too the stories that Carmen
Speaker 8: used to tell.
Speaker 2: We would all just sit around and look at her like.
Speaker 8: Wow, You've lived the greatest life, you know, And so yeah,
Speaker 8: I looking back, it's crazy how much went on on
Speaker 8: that show. And I was disliked by a couple of
Speaker 8: cast members because I was always positive and happy and
Speaker 8: just kind of my mom.
Speaker 2: And I remember being.
Speaker 8: Told to sit, dare you my perky aa you know down?
Speaker 2: And I was like okay, and I just kept smiling,
Speaker 2: like what am I going to do? You know?
Speaker 8: So there was a lot of egos, a lot of
Speaker 8: you know, especially my first year because there were I
Speaker 8: want to say, twelve castmates.
Speaker 2: And then my second year I made the cut.
Speaker 8: The Baywatch blood Bath they called it because it was
Speaker 8: just it went down to just me and then two
Speaker 8: other girls came on.
Speaker 2: So that was but the first year, lots of personalities.
Speaker 4: The bay Watch Bloodbath.
Speaker 2: They called it a.
Speaker 1: Wow and then how much in the show lasted one
Speaker 1: more year and they moved.
Speaker 2: They moved to Hawaii, and that was kind of my
Speaker 2: way to get out.
Speaker 8: I thought in my head, I thought the show was
Speaker 8: going to be done because Hasselhoff was leaving, so I
Speaker 8: got out on my contract.
Speaker 5: Was this around the Baywatch night's time. They tried that
Speaker 5: for a while too.
Speaker 2: That was during our show.
Speaker 8: That was yeah, So that was yeah, my seasons they
Speaker 8: were filming Baywatch Nights at the same time.
Speaker 3: Do your kids watch Baywatch?
Speaker 2: They do.
Speaker 8: There's luckily my character was wholesome and easy, you know,
Speaker 8: nothing crazy to watch, so yeah, they've seen it.
Speaker 2: They've all seen it, and it's funny.
Speaker 8: Streams now, at least on our Samsung TV, there's a
Speaker 8: whole channel devoted to Baywatch.
Speaker 2: So even I will turn it on and be like
Speaker 2: is this my season and all? You know?
Speaker 8: And because I was four different characters on that show,
Speaker 8: I spent one night going through every episode trying to
Speaker 8: find my old episodes.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I don't suggest that that's a lot of work.
Speaker 4: Wait, so you're four different characters on Baywatch.
Speaker 5: You're essentially three different characters on Boy is four on
Speaker 5: one show.
Speaker 4: The most you've ever done is Baywatch? Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 4: just looked at it.
Speaker 8: I looked at it at that as a positive thing.
Speaker 8: They must have really sure be back on these things.
Speaker 7: Exactly, absolutely, And Baywatch appears to be finding itself back
Speaker 7: in pop culture with Nicole Eggert and Jeremy Jackson's documentary
Speaker 7: that You Appear in after Baywatch Moment in the Sun,
Speaker 7: as well as a reboot being developed for Fox by
Speaker 7: a former Boy Meets World writer, actually Laura Olsen and
Speaker 7: Pamela Anderson making a big comeback in the upcoming Naked
Speaker 7: Gun reboot.
Speaker 3: Is there room for Baywatch in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2: I think so?
Speaker 8: And I remember we there was oh gosh, we're talking
Speaker 8: twenty twelve. We all got together and tried to come
Speaker 8: up with some sortain my guy, some sort of scenarios
Speaker 8: we could all reunite, and we came up with a
Speaker 8: concept called the B Team, and we talked about it
Speaker 8: literally yesterday, I kid you not on text, going we
Speaker 8: re bring out the B Team Now that all this
Speaker 8: stuff is shotter.
Speaker 2: Stuff, I'm like, I don't see why not.
Speaker 8: We're only twelve years older now, but sure, really be
Speaker 8: the B Team?
Speaker 3: What is the documentary like?
Speaker 2: So, you know, Bless their hearts.
Speaker 8: They started very small and it was going to be
Speaker 8: just like a one episode. They talked I was one
Speaker 8: of the first ones they talked to, and there was
Speaker 8: maybe five or six of us, and then he went
Speaker 8: on for the last four years and ended up interviewing everyone,
Speaker 8: including Pam, including Hastle. He did not get Jason, but
Speaker 8: they they made it this huge thing. So now it's
Speaker 8: a four parter. My part is this small because I'm
Speaker 8: just I think in the first one. But it's really cool.
Speaker 8: It's just behind the scenes of everything more so than
Speaker 8: just they watch but everything nineties because people really connect
Speaker 8: to that still and the culture around it.
Speaker 2: And Pam was just you know, larger than life personality.
Speaker 2: So it was a man, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 8: And I haven't even seen it yet, but I think
Speaker 8: I think that it airs the twenty eighth if I'm
Speaker 8: not mistaken of this month great.
Speaker 7: And finally, while watching these Boy Meets World episodes and
Speaker 7: seeing young Kelly on screen thirty years ago, if you
Speaker 7: could say one thing to her, what would it be?
Speaker 2: Wow? I guess it would just be to.
Speaker 8: You know, just know that everything that I manifested for
Speaker 8: my life happens, and that because I always always wanted
Speaker 8: to be a wife, a mother, and here I am,
Speaker 8: and that the business will always be there, and so
Speaker 8: it's okay to take a break, which is essentially what
Speaker 8: I've done. So yeah, because in the moment you're like, oh,
Speaker 8: I have to make the money, I have to do this,
Speaker 8: I have to work. I have to and no, no,
Speaker 8: I've been very well taken care of and things have
Speaker 8: gone the way they're supposed to.
Speaker 4: So oh that's great.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for spending your time with us today, Kelly.
Speaker 7: It's so great to see you be reunited, see your
Speaker 7: smiling face. We will look forward to seeing you at
Speaker 7: another California Dreams Live show, hopefully someone else under.
Speaker 2: Just for you, guys, do.
Speaker 1: You like a slow acoustic version for me? She's done
Speaker 1: at the piano and like a really sad surfer version.
Speaker 2: Because she would.
Speaker 1: Still be terrible.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Kelly, thank you for joining us. Always so
Speaker 7: great to see you.
Speaker 2: For having me, You guys, and all you as well.
Speaker 7: You and your family as well. Bry I do remember
Speaker 7: so much that she was such a it's funny that
Speaker 7: she talked about it on Baywatch, that annoying people. I
Speaker 7: remember her being the most positive, upbeat.
Speaker 5: Always a smile on her face, hard worker, never late,
Speaker 5: never missed a mark, never missed the line.
Speaker 4: She was just Yeah, she was really cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah so crazy guys. Should we should we start a band?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 5: I want to play the I want to play the
Speaker 5: cowbell taking the Will Ferrell parts world.
Speaker 4: Okay, so we'll get another singer.
Speaker 3: Writer can play the piano, the piano.
Speaker 4: You play the piano before all of our live shows.
Speaker 3: They're nice, you can like, actually you can play the piano.
Speaker 1: Figuring it out?
Speaker 4: What are you going to do, Danielle.
Speaker 3: All sing, all sing?
Speaker 7: I know, yeah, it's not gonna be great, but you
Speaker 7: know it'll it'll, it'll pass.
Speaker 5: I want to play the Glockenspiel. It's gonna We're gonna
Speaker 5: be a piano Glockenspiel trio.
Speaker 4: That's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 9: Okay, what are we calling ourselves? H we'll brain start
Speaker 9: Shady melons. I like the shady melons.
Speaker 4: Shady melons isn't bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty good. All right.
Speaker 7: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode
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