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Speaker 1: He's amazing, He's awesome. I've seen him a couple of

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Speaker 7: Podmeets World. I'm Daniel Vishel, I'm Right or Strong, and

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Speaker 7: I'm Wilfred. The landscape of nineties family television was, at

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Speaker 7: Because she's a familiar face to our rewatch, appearing three

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Speaker 7: Did you enjoy being a guest star on Boy Meets

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Speaker 8: I didn't obviously get quite as close to you, Danielle

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Speaker 5: It was well, I also remember you were also you

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Speaker 4: We're ratchet it up.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but he's such a professional I don't know that

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So you do not know this, but we are

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Speaker 2: Really, that's funny.

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Speaker 3: Would you like to give an acceptance speech of any kind?

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Speaker 8: Or it's those Savage boys that just kept meet you

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Speaker 4: And I think you're right. Yes, I think you're right.

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Speaker 8: I found that interesting that I had you know that

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Speaker 2: That funny?

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Speaker 4: That is funny, man. I remember you and I we

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Speaker 5: You're right, we got along very very well, and then

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Speaker 7: Your first episode was Model Family, which, as Will was mentioning,

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Speaker 7: Uh do you remember working with the lobster suit and

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Speaker 8: I do remember thinking the dunk take was pretty funny,

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Speaker 2: It's obviously their idea exactly right, Yeah, right, but it was.

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Speaker 2: Years later, and I was like, oh, yeah, I was

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Speaker 8: With the third episode that I did. There were some

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yo, yep.

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Speaker 1: That's by far our craziest episode stars just packing it in.

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Speaker 4: I remember when we were shooting the lobster scene.

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Speaker 4: So I just had to sit there and I.

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Speaker 5: Was getting super hot, and I was sweating profusely, and

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Speaker 4: And your face. You were like, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Even if nobody else was, I was looking out for you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So your second episode was also still in the first season.

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Speaker 2: So I do.

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Speaker 8: All I really remember about that episode was you know,

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Speaker 8: I was excited because the guy that played the owner

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Speaker 3: You know they, John Gibb.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was in Revenge of the Nerds.

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Speaker 2: So I remember being very excited about that.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember we talked to him for a while.

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Speaker 5: We were asking him all like the Revenge of the

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Speaker 7: So your third episode that we mentioned somehow another massive

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Speaker 7: Are apparently a different character and you are Corey's new

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Speaker 1: Did you have to audition for Candy or do you

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Speaker 8: I think I just got the call at that point.

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Speaker 2: Like, yes, this is fun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so much fun.

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Speaker 7: Do you remember anything about the wrestling ring or the

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Speaker 2: I just remember that it was a big ordeal. It

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Speaker 8: Then they just they literally would bring like Robert Leigh

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Speaker 4: It was so awesome.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I just remember it took a long time.

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Speaker 1: It was do you.

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Speaker 5: Remember Yasmine Bleef being there because she doesn't remember being there.

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Speaker 3: Wait, you went to Dubai with Yasmine Bleef?

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Speaker 2: I did. I did.

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Speaker 8: When I first got Baywatch, we did this celebrity Arabian

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Speaker 2: I would have talked to.

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Speaker 7: Well, I only wish you did, because she would have

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Speaker 5: She she has she said several times I was not

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Speaker 7: Right, I mean, I would like to go on the

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Speaker 3: Didn't remember being in that episode. I was like, I'm

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Speaker 7: And then everyone was like, you're sitting right there, You're you,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, rightly, so funny.

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Speaker 7: Well, before we put you into totally insane situations for

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Speaker 7: together an actual band? I know you said you didn't

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Speaker 7: actually play the bass, So what was your audition like

445
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 7: for that? And did they care at all that you

446
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 7: didn't play the instruments?

447
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 8: So yes, they from the get go, you had to

448
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 8: be able to sing, okay, to be even auditioned. So

449
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 8: I could sing. I wasn't great at singing, but I

450
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 8: could sing. So I went in for the audition and

451
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Speaker 8: I had nine auditions total, five of which were in

452
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Speaker 8: the music studio.

453
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Speaker 2: Wow. First two totally great, like I had fun.

454
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Speaker 8: But I remember being there with Jenny, who has had

455
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 8: come from Miss Saigone to give you an.

456
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 2: Idea her voice, and I was like, oh, what am

457
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 2: I doing here?

458
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 8: And then Heidi came in and sang like a Whitney

459
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 8: song and I was like, hey, just get me out

460
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 8: of here. I do, but anyway, I sang the first

461
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Speaker 8: two times and then the third and fourth time that

462
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 8: I went in, I had strep throat and I want

463
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 8: to say, like mono, I had no no, and I

464
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 8: just remember thinking, please see past this, Please see past this.

465
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Speaker 2: And sure enough we did see past it.

466
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Speaker 8: And my producer was so grateful that I actually could sing,

467
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 8: because all he remembered was that audition where I was like, ah,

468
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 8: it sounded like I kind of do now. But anyway,

469
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 8: so it was very important to them that we sang.

470
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Speaker 8: And the day that I signed my NBC contract, I

471
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 8: also signed a contract with MCA, so it was really

472
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 8: a dream come true.

473
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Speaker 7: Oh cool, Yeah, that's unbelievable. And this was a large

474
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,400
Speaker 7: ensemble cast of young actors. Did you guys all get

475
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 7: along immediately?

476
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Speaker 2: We did. We did. We were all young and stupid,

477
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 2: but yes we did.

478
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Speaker 8: I consider them still family, but at the time it

479
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 8: was literally like we were being thrown together with our

480
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 8: brothers and sisters.

481
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Speaker 2: So just which you guys, can I'm sure relate?

482
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Speaker 4: Where did you film?

483
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: We?

484
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 8: So we started at NBC, which was awesome because we

485
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 8: were right next to Fresh Prince. I would go over

486
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 8: to the Night Show like all kinds of fun stuff,

487
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 8: and then we switched to Gower for the last two seasons.

488
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Speaker 4: Gotcha?

489
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 6: Okay?

490
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: Wow?

491
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 7: Some of the folklore of the Sacred Saved by the

492
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 7: Bell is about how they all dated each other.

493
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Speaker 3: Was that the same thing over on the California Dream Set?

494
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: Oh? I can't speak for anyone else. Okay, Yes, there was.

495
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 8: Some messing around. I wouldn't say dating. I would not

496
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Speaker 8: say dating. However, I'm proud to say I did date

497
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 8: Mark Paul for two weeks to fame. But so they

498
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 8: were shooting next door on New Class and so we

499
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Speaker 8: kind of got to know each other and dated for

500
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Speaker 8: a whopping two weeks.

501
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 3: Wow, it's a long time in the business.

502
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: It's a long time.

503
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Speaker 3: That's a long time. Exactly how old were you?

504
00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: How old were you at this point.

505
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Speaker 4: Were you eighteen or were you still?

506
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 2: I was? No, was I over eighteen when I met

507
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 2: Mark Paul.

508
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Speaker 8: I don't think I was. I think I was still seventeen.

509
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 8: So I had just turned seventeen when I got.

510
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 7: The part we love Mark Paul around here akaa James Vanderbates.

511
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Speaker 4: James Baker.

512
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Mark Paul was so good on Dawson's Creek that

513
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 5: it's like we still we still talk about.

514
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 4: It to this day.

515
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did not say that.

516
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 5: Oh no, we did, Daniel. I did say that to him.

517
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 5: That was part of this. Happened mid interview.

518
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 7: Well, to make it worse, I had asked him, does

519
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 7: he ever get mistaken for someone else? Because we all sometimes,

520
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 7: you know, we're all told oh I loved you on

521
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 7: Full House or oh I loved you on shows we

522
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 7: were never on. So I asked him if that ever

523
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 7: happens to him, and he said he gets mistaken for

524
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 7: James Vanderbek and I was like, oh, I don't really

525
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 7: see it. And then later was like, I saw a

526
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 7: great social media clip of you and he was like,

527
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 7: that was James Anderby, that was James.

528
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 4: She literally did it mid interview. It was I couldn't

529
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Speaker 4: have been scripted any better than it was.

530
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Speaker 3: The most cringe moment.

531
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

532
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, really.

533
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 2: He's a good sport.

534
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yea, he is.

535
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 3: He is a very good sport. He's been very kind

536
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: to me about that.

537
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 7: So most of the songs for California Dreams were composed

538
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 7: by Steve Tyrrell, who is a Grammy winner for his

539
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 7: work with Rod Stewart. He produced Hooked on a Feeling

540
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 7: and rain Drops Keep Falling on My Head, both of

541
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 7: which are bops. But most importantly, he wrote how do

542
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 7: You Talk to an Angel? By The Heights aka Jamie Walters,

543
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 7: which should have won him the pullitzer.

544
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 4: Did you do you know who else was in that band? Who?

545
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: Alex Day's heir? He was on the Heights? Yes, he's

546
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 4: on the Hikes.

547
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 5: That was where Alex was was was one of the

548
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 5: members of the band that sings how do you Talk

549
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 5: to an Angel? Yeah, that's that's our connection with the

550
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 5: Heights baby. Oh yeah. And he did not like when

551
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 5: I sung that song to him. I will tell you

552
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Speaker 5: I went up to him on time. I was like,

553
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 5: how do you talk? He's like no, I was like, oh, go.

554
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: Same on it? Or did he just play an instrument.

555
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 5: I said, well, no, he's part of the like he's

556
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 5: part of the band in the Heights, so it was

557
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 5: he was on the show as part of the band.

558
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 4: So I was one of like their hit songs. Yeah,

559
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 4: he did not like me singing it to him.

560
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 7: Kelly, did you like the music from the show back

561
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 7: when you were filming?

562
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: I did.

563
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Speaker 8: And it's really funny because we've done these reunion concerts

564
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 8: and the music really stands up, like there are several

565
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 8: songs that I could hear on the radio today. It's

566
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 8: really impressive. I didn't love my songs because I got

567
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 8: the more bubblegum type songs. I always wanted Heidi's songs.

568
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 8: So now for these concerts, I kind of do that.

569
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Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I'm taking that one get hers.

570
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: But no, it's really good music.

571
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Speaker 8: And the theme song, I think it's been like named

572
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 8: like top five most memorable theme songs.

573
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Speaker 5: I can see that. I can totally see that. That

574
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 5: makes sense. It is one of those the second you

575
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: hear it, you know what it is.

576
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, at least a certain age group or my kids,

577
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 8: because watch it now.

578
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, how old are your kids?

579
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: So I have four?

580
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 8: I range you from twenty all the way down to

581
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 8: my youngest just turned twelve. Of you today, today's your birthday, Happy.

582
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: Birthday, every birthday.

583
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 2: Thank you.

584
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 7: What do they think about seeing you on TV? What

585
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 7: do they think about your career?

586
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 2: Well, luckily I was on shows that they can watch,

587
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: and they love California Dreams. They kind of know it

588
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: inside and out.

589
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 8: They know it better than I do, to be honest,

590
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 8: And they call Michael uncle Michael, they call Jenny and Jenny.

591
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: They don't know any different.

592
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 4: And it's cool.

593
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, And it's been really fun doing these concerts because

594
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 8: they get to see me in this.

595
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: Light that they don't know me as right.

596
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 8: So New York, we're up on stage singing and they

597
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 8: were just like, what's happening?

598
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: That's my mom?

599
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 7: You know.

600
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: So fun.

601
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 7: We're going to get to the reunion shows soon. But

602
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 7: first I want to know, do you have a favorite

603
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 7: California Dreams episode?

604
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question. Probably.

605
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 8: Well that's a trick question because there was one where

606
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 8: I got to do the classic Jesse span out, you know,

607
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 8: when she was on like meds or whatever.

608
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: I was on steroids, Tiffany. That one was fun, you know,

609
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: play a little different something.

610
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 8: But I loved the ones where people would not realize that,

611
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 8: like we were laughing throughout the entire episode. So there's

612
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 8: one called Elu Shoe Flu where Michael dressed us up

613
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 8: as a germ and it was so stupid that we

614
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 8: just we keep our pants laughing and so those degrees that,

615
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 8: and I can watch that episode and see all of

616
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 8: us laughing and they couldn't cut it out.

617
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 3: Couldn't couldn't edit around it.

618
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 7: Wait, I have to know, well what you're doing on

619
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Speaker 7: staircu thank you, thank you to the steroids press.

620
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 4: It's so many questions, So thank you Danielle.

621
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 8: Because Tiffany played volleyball guys, and so to get your

622
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 8: edge at volleyball, Sly gave her some steroids and then

623
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 8: I got addicted to them and had a rooid rage

624
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 8: in the whole nine yards.

625
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: Yes, good, it really was good. I can't stand watching

626
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 2: it because I'm like.

627
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 3: Oh God, that was terrible, But it happens. What happens

628
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 3: in your rage.

629
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 8: I throw all the dishes off the table, I pin

630
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 8: Sly up to the locker.

631
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: Totally believable. So yeah, I love it.

632
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 4: Wow, Thank thank you Danielle.

633
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 8: I needed to know that you guys remember your I

634
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 8: want to say he was assistant director, may have directed then.

635
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: But Patrick Maloney, do you guys remember him?

636
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: Of course?

637
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: It's he was our director.

638
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 8: For two years on California Dreams, and he actually came

639
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 8: to the last reunion concerts. So I just remember that

640
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 8: connection and knowing that he was with you guys as well.

641
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 4: That's really cool. I forget.

642
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 5: I don't think he actually ever directed an episode on

643
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 5: the show.

644
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: Okay, but he was.

645
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 5: I forget what Patrick did, I don't remember, but super

646
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 5: nice guy and was there all the time, Like I

647
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 5: think he was there all seven years.

648
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: He might have been like an ad at the time.

649
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 8: I can't remember, but I just I remember seeing him

650
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 8: there and then when he came to wait, I know you.

651
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, he's a good guy.

652
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 5: So I should probably tell you that I had just

653
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 5: moved out to Los Angeles when I did not live

654
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 5: there long, and you were like one of my first

655
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 5: crushes when I first moved out to LA I should

656
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: probably I should admit that since you're here. It's yeah,

657
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 5: I have to tell you. I was what seventeen and

658
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 5: you were the California girl. It was so so different

659
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 5: and you guys ever hang out on that side set.

660
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 8: So I will say I the crush was reciprocated and

661
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 8: what happened with us and this is the God's honest truth.

662
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 8: So I was on the first episode and I want

663
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 8: to say in that moment, I had a boyfriend. But

664
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Speaker 8: then when I went back on again, I was like,

665
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 8: I'm single, I'm single, and he had a girlfriend.

666
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 4: Literally kept we kept crossing paths.

667
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, yeah, And so I think that's how it

668
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 8: went down, and it was really sad.

669
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: I think so too.

670
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: I think it's a tragedy.

671
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 4: The timing just never worked out.

672
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 5: But we always we hung out on set and we

673
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 5: had a lot of fun and you were You were

674
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 5: always just so nice to me and I very much.

675
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

676
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: It's so sweet.

677
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 7: Well, while researching, we did notice that Fergie appeared on

678
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 7: California Dreams, as did Tara Reid and Jamie Kennedy. So

679
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 7: I believe they all tie for most nineties, but were

680
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 7: any of them most fun?

681
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 8: I do remember that I don't think I said a

682
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 8: word to Fergie because I was a fan of hers,

683
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 8: not as Fergie.

684
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: She wasn't Fergie at the.

685
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 8: Time, right, Yeah, So I lived on Kids Incorporated.

686
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: Growing up, she was on the show. I was just like,

687
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I could.

688
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 8: I don't think I said a word to her, which

689
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 8: is again really dumb looking back.

690
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, I tell my kids that all the time.

691
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, Fergie is on our show.

692
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we go way back.

693
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 8: Yeah.

694
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 5: Kids Incorporated was a great people for people of a

695
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 5: certain age. Kids Incorporated was super important. Yes, that was

696
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 5: a great show. Yes, Oh, such a good show.

697
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: Did you watch three two one Contact as a little

698
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 4: kid too?

699
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 2: That one does not ring a bell?

700
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, three two one Contact is another great show.

701
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 5: That's early early, that's like I was probably five or six. Yeah,

702
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 5: and that was Hey, that was a great show as well.

703
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: I was watching Jim at five and six.

704
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 9: I love Jem truly outrageous, great show, great space coaster.

705
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: Yes, of course, okay, good, it's just so funny.

706
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: So when the show ends, do you keep in touch

707
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: with everyone?

708
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

709
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: We did.

710
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 8: We Jenny was in my wedding, Michael came to my wedding,

711
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 8: William came to my wedding. I stayed in touch with

712
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 8: everybody except Diana. We kind of lost touch. So when

713
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 8: I saw her last October. That was really lovely because

714
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 8: I hadn't seen her since the show rapped. And then

715
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 8: Jay Jayce moved to Australia probably like five after five

716
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 8: years after we wrapped, so we kind of lost track

717
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 8: of him. So getting to see those guys again was

718
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 8: really fun because I hadn't seen them since we wrapped.

719
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 8: But Michael, Jenny, Will, Brent were all still really close

720
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 8: and Heidi. I still talk to Heidi all the time.

721
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 4: Where was the reunion that you guys did? Where was this?

722
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 8: So the first one we did was twenty twenty, literally

723
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 8: the month before COVID happened. That's why I remember it

724
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 8: so well in LA and it was a huge success,

725
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 8: so we were like, this is awesome, we should do

726
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 8: this again. Well, COVID hit and so the last one

727
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 8: we did was in October of last year, so twenty

728
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 8: twenty three. We did that in New York and it

729
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 8: was a success, but it didn't have the same feeling

730
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 8: as that first one, like a lot of things changed

731
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 8: during COVID. It just kind of yeah, people a little

732
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 8: you know, not so sure to.

733
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: Go out still, I don't know.

734
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 8: But then our last one was just in what are

735
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 8: we in? So march back in La or May, I

736
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 8: can't remember. It was recent. These months are going together?

737
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: How did it come together?

738
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 4: Whose idea was it?

739
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: How did you get the gang back together?

740
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: That is a really good story because it was actually

741
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: my idea, only because only because Jenny and I were

742
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 2: at a concert.

743
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 8: I will leave the band unnamed, but it's a very

744
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 8: well known girl band and they didn't sound great, and

745
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 8: I was like, we would sound ten times better than them,

746
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 8: That's literally what I said.

747
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: I was like, we could do this, We could totally

748
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: do this, and she's like, well, we could, but we'd

749
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: have to produce it ourselves, and so that just she

750
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: has a producer's mind.

751
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: I do not.

752
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 8: But she took on the reins and we produced the

753
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 8: whole thing ourselves, the first one, second one as well,

754
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 8: and then the third one. Finally, someone in Atlantic City

755
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 8: was like, yeah, we'll pay, Yeah, we'll bring you out.

756
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: So if it's anymore, we would like somebody else to do.

757
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: The producer right got to work.

758
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 4: So all of this came from you all going to

759
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 4: the Go Gos.

760
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 10: No they were sorry, but I will say who it

761
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 10: was because that would be but they were, Yes, they

762
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 10: were a popular eighties nineties girl band and they did

763
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:38,479
Speaker 10: not sound good.

764
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 5: So we do this, but you're gonna but you're gonna

765
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 5: do another one because this is definitely something I want

766
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 5: to go see.

767
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: Oh good, Well, we are talking about it, but.

768
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 8: Again, okay, we need somebody else to fund it because

769
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 8: for me and Jenny, it was just so much work

770
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 8: that I don't want to.

771
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: Take that on again.

772
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 7: Well, the creators, Brett Dewey and Ronald Solomon, have you

773
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 7: guys reconnected with them with them at all time?

774
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: This just through Instagram and social media to them, and

775
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: they are always so supportive and just so sweet. When

776
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 2: we post something, they're like, oh, you guys are the best.

777
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's really cool.

778
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 7: Well, you know, we the three of us, know firsthand

779
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 7: that even at the end of the day, none of

780
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 7: this could happen without the nostalgic desire of fans. So

781
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 7: this has been very cathartic for us to regroup and

782
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 7: talk about our past together. You guys are actually performing

783
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 7: the songs, so it must.

784
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 3: Feel just very wild. What is that experience like for you?

785
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: It's really it is wild.

786
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 8: And I feel like we sound almost better than we

787
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 8: did back then, and that with the fact that we

788
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 8: can pull it off is pretty awesome. I again, the

789
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 8: music stands the test of time.

790
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: It's still really great. And I think if it was

791
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: re released, I think it would be successful, which is

792
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: crazy thirty years later, you know.

793
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 7: And so you guys aren't playing the instruments. You have

794
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 7: a band playing the instruments, and you are doing the singing.

795
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: Yes, except Brentley.

796
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 8: Brentley did do the lead guitar on cast concerts, okay.

797
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: And how many songs are there? How deep is the catalog?

798
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 2: Forty nine forty nine?

799
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: I believe you have fifty songs?

800
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: And so are there some that you will never play

801
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: because you're like, I don't like this one?

802
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 4: Or yeah, what's your what's your saint? Stephen?

803
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a couple. There's one that I sang called

804
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 8: into the Tube. I mean the name says enough.

805
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: It's like a surf song. It's just really bad. We

806
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: would never.

807
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: Play that, Okay.

808
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, for the most part, the rest are pretty great.

809
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 8: And the fans are so funny because if they know

810
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 8: our music, they know it and so watching them sing

811
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 8: all the lyrics at that last concert was just.

812
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: Like, Wow, you know this better than I do. Oh, crazy.

813
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 5: So I've seen episodes of California Dreams. I haven't seen

814
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 5: them all, but was there a new song every episode?

815
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: Pretty don close.

816
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 8: We did seventy five episodes, so there couldn't have been

817
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 8: one every episode, but I would say every other.

818
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: I mean based on the.

819
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: Map, yeah, geez.

820
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: So we would go in.

821
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 8: The band would go in like an hour early on

822
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 8: blocking days specifically and go over the music because we

823
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 8: would oftentimes just be hearing it because if it was

824
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 8: one person recording it, they would just go to the

825
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 8: studio right, So we would all hear it the first

826
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 8: time on set and then just kind of get to

827
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 8: know it.

828
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 2: And it's kind of crazy.

829
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 4: Man.

830
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: Do you have your lyrics memorized or do you have

831
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: to use a teleproger?

832
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: You know, I have all mind memories.

833
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 8: In fact, I have mind memorized Jenny's memorize because I

834
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 8: was literally going like this part of the concert telling

835
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 8: her so of her lyrics, and William got sick and

836
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 8: couldn't do the one.

837
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: I did his rap, Like I kind of know everybody's.

838
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 3: Oh so funny awesome.

839
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 7: I mean you talking about the audience knowing all the words.

840
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 7: The show is not even the streaming why why is

841
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 7: it not possible to stream California Dreams.

842
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 8: So the only thing that makes sense, because it does

843
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 8: not make sense, especially for Peacock not to have it.

844
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: That's where we were. Yes, the only thing that I

845
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 2: can think of is there is some sort of music.

846
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: Has to be, has to be, the licensing has to be.

847
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 8: And that makes sense to me because when they remastered

848
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 8: bay Watch two hundred episodes, they had to go in

849
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 8: and redo all the music on Baywatch. So that's the

850
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 8: only thing I can think of. It's the only thing

851
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 8: that makes sense. I have gotten zero answers from anybody.

852
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 8: But that's what makes sense to me, is that somebody

853
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 8: else music and they're not.

854
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 4: That's what it is.

855
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 5: Somebody, some other company owned the music, which he'll pay

856
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 5: for the show. So the show is owned by somewhere

857
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 5: in The music has to be. You're one hundred percent right.

858
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: It's got to be too easy to stream the show.

859
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 4: And Saved by the Bell is out there, right, you

860
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: can stream Save by the Bell.

861
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm saying. We you know, we were

862
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: on their network for five years. There's no reason.

863
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 4: You're right, it's got to be. The music has to be,

864
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 4: so we'll see.

865
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: We'll see what they next time?

866
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: Will you cover how do you talk to an angel?

867
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 2: For us? You sure can would sing that so well?

868
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, I'm sure. Well I'm gonna be in your

869
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: next concert.

870
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: I'm gonna you're just gonna hear dead silence and you

871
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 5: just can't hear me go sing into the tube though, too.

872
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 2: Oh there.

873
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 7: So I wanted to talk to you about Baywatch. You

874
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 7: had appeared as many characters on that show over the years,

875
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 7: but eventually, for seasons eight and nine, you became a

876
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 7: head lifeguard.

877
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 3: April Gaminsky. Am I saying that right?

878
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: Correct? Good job?

879
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: Okay?

880
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 7: Who I found this online and tell me if I

881
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 7: get it wrong. Suffered a mental breakdown after a pregnant

882
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 7: woman's husband drowns.

883
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was a good episode.

884
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well was that and the steroid use?

885
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 8: No, no, that I totally forgot about that episode. But

886
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 8: yeah I had to cry in the shower and Carmen

887
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 8: Electric was consoling me.

888
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: I forgot about that episode.

889
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: Yeah wait, I'm sorry. I need to stop you again

890
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 4: real quick. You did a scene where car An.

891
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 5: Electra Is is consoling you in the shower.

892
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: Shower. Yeah, so now you'll watch it.

893
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just such a stream.

894
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: Where's stream?

895
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, We're all right, you got it?

896
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 3: Hello, they were in the red bathing suits in the shower.

897
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 5: Sorry, I've never seen an episode of Baywatch in my life.

898
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 5: California drums, Yes, but I haven't seen an episode of

899
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 5: Baywatch in my life.

900
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, you might be one of the only people.

901
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 7: Was there an insane amount of pressure to stay in

902
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 7: shape for that kind of show?

903
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 8: Looking back, yes, I was kind of naive to it

904
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 8: because I was then like I am now, I just

905
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 8: don't work.

906
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 2: Out very well.

907
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 8: But yeah, looking back, I realized, oh, yeah, that was

908
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 8: I thought. I look back and I thought I was

909
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 8: fat on the show. It's just fine, I'm sorry. At

910
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 8: the time, I thought I was right and to look

911
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 8: like that in a red swimsuit again. But no, there

912
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 8: clearly was a lot of pressure just by the women

913
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 8: that were around you. And then I know that there

914
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 8: was limitations on craft service, so clearly people had problems.

915
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 8: And I remember I was on the show the first

916
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 8: time when I was thirteen, so thirteen years old, and

917
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 8: I remember saying to Erica Lenyak how beautiful she was

918
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 8: and how I loved her body, like the thirteen I

919
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 8: think of my thirteen year old or twelve year old

920
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 8: was soon to be thirteen, and like I was, I

921
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 8: was absorbed with that and looking at that, looking like that,

922
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 8: and it's crazy, crazy to think. And there was clauses

923
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 8: in our contract that said we couldn't gain any weight.

924
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 8: I do remember that, couldn't make any physical changes really

925
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 8: at all. And there were some women that struggled with that.

926
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 4: So well, yeah, because they're human.

927
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: I mean, my god, right, oh, I know, I know

928
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 3: it's we got to.

929
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 5: Talk to you about how we looked her, about our hair,

930
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 5: stuff like that, but there was I mean, I can

931
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 5: speak for myself. There's no clause in my contract about

932
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 5: how I looked. I mean, I can certainly say.

933
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: That though every week.

934
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 7: But yeah, I mean I will say we all had,

935
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 7: without realizing it necessarily, we all had morality contracts.

936
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 3: Oh you know, there were there were.

937
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 7: There's morality clauses in our that if we ever did

938
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 7: something maybe illegal, or.

939
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 4: Something arrested or got arrested or did.

940
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 7: Something something that they could say, you are no longer

941
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 7: a good representation for our company and we can let

942
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 7: you go.

943
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 8: So that makes sense though, Yeah, yeah, weren't you ABC Family?

944
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: You weres family, right, we were ABC? Yeah, yeah, so

945
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 2: that makes sense.

946
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes.

947
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 7: What was it like behind the scenes being such a

948
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 7: fixture of Americana and dealing with egos and actors who

949
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 7: at times were larger than life.

950
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: Again, looking back, it was crazy. I just remember.

951
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 8: I remember my husband coming down to the set in

952
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 8: our I think we had a Honda Civic maybe maybe

953
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 8: a Honda Accord.

954
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: And he parks it next to my trailer and then

955
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: incomes Nick. He's six in his Ferrari next dots and

956
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: there's like.

957
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: Really, could you pop somewhere else else?

958
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: But no?

959
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 8: And then I do remember too the stories that Carmen

960
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 8: used to tell.

961
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: We would all just sit around and look at her like.

962
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 8: Wow, You've lived the greatest life, you know, And so yeah,

963
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 8: I looking back, it's crazy how much went on on

964
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 8: that show. And I was disliked by a couple of

965
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 8: cast members because I was always positive and happy and

966
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 8: just kind of my mom.

967
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: And I remember being.

968
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 8: Told to sit, dare you my perky aa you know down?

969
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: And I was like okay, and I just kept smiling,

970
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 2: like what am I going to do? You know?

971
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 8: So there was a lot of egos, a lot of

972
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 8: you know, especially my first year because there were I

973
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 8: want to say, twelve castmates.

974
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 2: And then my second year I made the cut.

975
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 8: The Baywatch blood Bath they called it because it was

976
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 8: just it went down to just me and then two

977
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 8: other girls came on.

978
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: So that was but the first year, lots of personalities.

979
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: The bay Watch Bloodbath.

980
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: They called it a.

981
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: Wow and then how much in the show lasted one

982
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: more year and they moved.

983
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: They moved to Hawaii, and that was kind of my

984
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: way to get out.

985
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 8: I thought in my head, I thought the show was

986
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 8: going to be done because Hasselhoff was leaving, so I

987
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 8: got out on my contract.

988
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 5: Was this around the Baywatch night's time. They tried that

989
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 5: for a while too.

990
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: That was during our show.

991
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 8: That was yeah, So that was yeah, my seasons they

992
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 8: were filming Baywatch Nights at the same time.

993
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: Do your kids watch Baywatch?

994
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 2: They do.

995
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 8: There's luckily my character was wholesome and easy, you know,

996
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 8: nothing crazy to watch, so yeah, they've seen it.

997
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: They've all seen it, and it's funny.

998
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 8: Streams now, at least on our Samsung TV, there's a

999
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 8: whole channel devoted to Baywatch.

1000
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: So even I will turn it on and be like

1001
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: is this my season and all? You know?

1002
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 8: And because I was four different characters on that show,

1003
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 8: I spent one night going through every episode trying to

1004
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 8: find my old episodes.

1005
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I don't suggest that that's a lot of work.

1006
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 4: Wait, so you're four different characters on Baywatch.

1007
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 5: You're essentially three different characters on Boy is four on

1008
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 5: one show.

1009
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 4: The most you've ever done is Baywatch? Yeah, okay, I

1010
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: just looked at it.

1011
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 8: I looked at it at that as a positive thing.

1012
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 8: They must have really sure be back on these things.

1013
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 7: Exactly, absolutely, And Baywatch appears to be finding itself back

1014
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 7: in pop culture with Nicole Eggert and Jeremy Jackson's documentary

1015
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 7: that You Appear in after Baywatch Moment in the Sun,

1016
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 7: as well as a reboot being developed for Fox by

1017
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 7: a former Boy Meets World writer, actually Laura Olsen and

1018
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 7: Pamela Anderson making a big comeback in the upcoming Naked

1019
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 7: Gun reboot.

1020
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: Is there room for Baywatch in twenty twenty four?

1021
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: I think so?

1022
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 8: And I remember we there was oh gosh, we're talking

1023
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 8: twenty twelve. We all got together and tried to come

1024
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 8: up with some sortain my guy, some sort of scenarios

1025
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 8: we could all reunite, and we came up with a

1026
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 8: concept called the B Team, and we talked about it

1027
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 8: literally yesterday, I kid you not on text, going we

1028
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 8: re bring out the B Team Now that all this

1029
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 8: stuff is shotter.

1030
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: Stuff, I'm like, I don't see why not.

1031
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 8: We're only twelve years older now, but sure, really be

1032
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 8: the B Team?

1033
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: What is the documentary like?

1034
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: So, you know, Bless their hearts.

1035
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 8: They started very small and it was going to be

1036
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 8: just like a one episode. They talked I was one

1037
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 8: of the first ones they talked to, and there was

1038
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 8: maybe five or six of us, and then he went

1039
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 8: on for the last four years and ended up interviewing everyone,

1040
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 8: including Pam, including Hastle. He did not get Jason, but

1041
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 8: they they made it this huge thing. So now it's

1042
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 8: a four parter. My part is this small because I'm

1043
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 8: just I think in the first one. But it's really cool.

1044
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 8: It's just behind the scenes of everything more so than

1045
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 8: just they watch but everything nineties because people really connect

1046
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 8: to that still and the culture around it.

1047
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: And Pam was just you know, larger than life personality.

1048
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: So it was a man, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be good.

1049
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 8: And I haven't even seen it yet, but I think

1050
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 8: I think that it airs the twenty eighth if I'm

1051
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 8: not mistaken of this month great.

1052
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 7: And finally, while watching these Boy Meets World episodes and

1053
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 7: seeing young Kelly on screen thirty years ago, if you

1054
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 7: could say one thing to her, what would it be?

1055
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: Wow? I guess it would just be to.

1056
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 8: You know, just know that everything that I manifested for

1057
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 8: my life happens, and that because I always always wanted

1058
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 8: to be a wife, a mother, and here I am,

1059
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 8: and that the business will always be there, and so

1060
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 8: it's okay to take a break, which is essentially what

1061
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 8: I've done. So yeah, because in the moment you're like, oh,

1062
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 8: I have to make the money, I have to do this,

1063
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 8: I have to work. I have to and no, no,

1064
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 8: I've been very well taken care of and things have

1065
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 8: gone the way they're supposed to.

1066
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 4: So oh that's great.

1067
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for spending your time with us today, Kelly.

1068
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 7: It's so great to see you be reunited, see your

1069
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 7: smiling face. We will look forward to seeing you at

1070
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 7: another California Dreams Live show, hopefully someone else under.

1071
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 2: Just for you, guys, do.

1072
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: You like a slow acoustic version for me? She's done

1073
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: at the piano and like a really sad surfer version.

1074
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 2: Because she would.

1075
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: Still be terrible.

1076
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's.

1077
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 7: Thank you, Kelly, thank you for joining us. Always so

1078
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 7: great to see you.

1079
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: For having me, You guys, and all you as well.

1080
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 7: You and your family as well. Bry I do remember

1081
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 7: so much that she was such a it's funny that

1082
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 7: she talked about it on Baywatch, that annoying people. I

1083
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 7: remember her being the most positive, upbeat.

1084
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 5: Always a smile on her face, hard worker, never late,

1085
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 5: never missed a mark, never missed the line.

1086
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 4: She was just Yeah, she was really cool.

1087
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah so crazy guys. Should we should we start a band?

1088
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's awesome.

1089
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 5: I want to play the I want to play the

1090
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 5: cowbell taking the Will Ferrell parts world.

1091
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 4: Okay, so we'll get another singer.

1092
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: Writer can play the piano, the piano.

1093
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 4: You play the piano before all of our live shows.

1094
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: They're nice, you can like, actually you can play the piano.

1095
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: Figuring it out?

1096
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 4: What are you going to do, Danielle.

1097
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 3: All sing, all sing?

1098
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 7: I know, yeah, it's not gonna be great, but you

1099
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 7: know it'll it'll, it'll pass.

1100
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 5: I want to play the Glockenspiel. It's gonna We're gonna

1101
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 5: be a piano Glockenspiel trio.

1102
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 4: That's what we're gonna do.

1103
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 9: Okay, what are we calling ourselves? H we'll brain start

1104
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 9: Shady melons. I like the shady melons.

1105
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 4: Shady melons isn't bad.

1106
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty good. All right.

1107
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 7: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode

1108
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 7: of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us

1109
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 7: on Instagram pod Meets World Show. You can send us

1110
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 7: your emails pod meets World Show at gmail dot com

1111
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 7: and we have merch.

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Speaker 4: How do you talk to some now? No? Sorry, y'all.

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Speaker 7: Podmeetsworldshow dot com writer send us out.

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Speaker 1: We love you all, pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is

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Speaker 1: an iHeart podcast producer hosted by Danielle Fischel, Wilfridell and

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Speaker 1: Ryder Strong. Executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman. Executive

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Speaker 1: in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor, Taras Sudbach, producer,

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Speaker 1: Maddy Moore, engineer and Boy Meets World superman Easton Allen.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow

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Speaker 1: us on Instagram at podmets World Show, or email us

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Speaker 1: at Podmeats World Show at gmail dot com.