1 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Good morning, peepsend Welcome to OOKF Daily with me your 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: girl Danielle Moody recording from the home Bunker. The first, folks, 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: I want to start off today mentioning something that I 4 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: actually did not really cover in depth last week at all, 5 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: which is President Biden joining the picket line of the 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: UAW in Michigan and the media's false equivalency that they 7 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: were running with Donald Trump going to some auto body 8 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: shop filled with people who were not actual auto workers 9 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: in an attempt to do what he does really well, 10 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: which is take away media attention and create a false equivalency. 11 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: The fact that a sitting president of the United States 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: stood with union workers and told them that they deserve 13 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: their fair share after his administration, the Obama administration bailed 14 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: out right the auto industry, right, our tax dollars bailed 15 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: those motherfuckers out that now a decade later, they are 16 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: making record profits and yet fail to pay their workers. 17 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: And so what I want to make people aware of 18 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: is that we are living at a time when workers 19 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: actually have the power and recognize their power, regardless of 20 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: the billionaires that are doing interviews and saying things to 21 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: the effect of, well, we need unemployment to be at 22 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: fifty percent so that they feel the pain and they 23 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: remember who's in charge. Those are words that come out 24 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: of the mouths of people who think that they are 25 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: literally masters right, commanding their plantation, and not seeeos who 26 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: are afforded the lifestyle that they've become accustomed to because 27 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: of the people that they employ. That this idea of 28 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: a trickle down has never has never happened, never, not 29 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: one fucking time. There is no trickle down because when 30 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: the money goes to the top, guess where it is 31 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: forwarded at the fucking top. And then the attitude of 32 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: those people and their callousness is like let them eat cake. Right, 33 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: So the fact that Joe Biden would show up and 34 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: support workers and support unions should show a stark contrast 35 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: to the Republican Party that is about greed and is 36 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: about cruelty. That is it. There is no large distinction 37 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: between oh well, Republicans and Democrats. They do the same thing. 38 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: They fucking don't, right, And Donald Trump's fraudulent you know, 39 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: misstep that was uncovered by the Detroit News just shows 40 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: you who the Republican Party is. They lie, and they 41 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: cheat and they steal in order to make you believe 42 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: that they give a shit, right, and they don't. Everything 43 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: that they do is like play acting, and so it 44 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: is important for us to make the distinction that when 45 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: we see true acts of leadership, like what Joe Biden 46 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: showed us last week, that those are the things that 47 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: we should be holding on to. I don't give a 48 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: fuck how old Joe Biden is. What matters to me 49 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: is that he has dedicated his life to public service 50 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: and that he has exceeded my expectations as being President 51 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: of the United States during one of our most fractious 52 00:03:53,400 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: times that this country has seen in fifty years. And 53 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: so I don't care if Joe Biden is eighty, because 54 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: what I do know is that he's not a criminal. 55 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: What I do know is that he's not cruel. What 56 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: I do know is that he's not a bigot. What 57 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: I do know is that he's not a liar. And 58 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 1: those are the qualities that we should be looking for 59 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: in anyone that is going to lead this country. Everything 60 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: else is fluff and bullshit. This isn't a horse race 61 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: that we are watching. We are not betting, because if 62 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: Trump were to win, or any Republican were to win, 63 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: the American people and the world loses. The stakes are 64 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: too high for the kind of bullshit that we are 65 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: continuing to see in corporate media. Coming up next, dear friends, 66 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: my conversation with Chris Scott, who is leading a really 67 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: important organization which is the Advance the Electorate Pack. And 68 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: this is what this pack is doing, Political Action Committee. 69 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: They are working to build a more inclusive democracy by recruiting, training, 70 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: and electing the next generation of progressive Democratic candidates and operatives. 71 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: And the pack's focus, folks, this is why this is interesting, 72 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: is that their focus is on statewide judicial and legislative races. 73 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: For too long, I have said on this show and 74 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: so many others that Democrats focus solely on the presidency, 75 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: or they focus solely on Congress. And what we have 76 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: seen over the past years is just how much power 77 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: the states actually have and how much power the judiciary has. 78 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: And so by focusing right the electoral measures on these places, 79 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: we can ensure right that progress isn't just about who 80 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: is inside of the White House or who is in 81 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: the Congress or the Senate, but who is sitting on 82 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: the bench and who is running for local office in 83 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: statewide office, because that matters. So coming up next my 84 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: conversation with Chris Scott. Folks, I am very happy to 85 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: welcome to Woke a f daily Chris Scott, who is 86 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: in charge of they head of a new progressive Democratic 87 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: pack entitled Advance the Electorate. And Christopher, you are working 88 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: on what many have talked about and referred to as 89 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: the new American Majority right and getting the new American 90 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: majority to have a stake in the shift in our 91 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: shifting electorate, particularly at a time when we are seeing 92 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: Republican forces try and rewrite will not try they have 93 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: rewritten our judiciary that they have essentially tried to overturn 94 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: free and fair elections. And your pack, this pack is 95 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: specifically focused on statewide judicial and legislative races. Give us 96 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: the reason behind this and just bring us up to 97 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: speed on what it is folks need to understand about 98 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: the work that Advanced the Electorate pack is doing well. 99 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: I think, for one, and thank you for having me 100 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: on today, Danielle. I think for one, when me and 101 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: Christine created a pack, it was with the idea of 102 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: a lot of the work that needs to be done 103 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: to defend our depocrasy starts. 104 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: At the state level. In the first place, I think 105 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: when you look at what. 106 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: Republicans have gone and done and always been ahead of 107 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: the curve with us, it's with those judicial races, which 108 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: is how they've now stacked the Supreme Court because they 109 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: intentionally focused on building and bench. And then when you 110 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: look at the state legislatures, you look at you know, 111 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: where abortion rights, where voting rights are getting attacked. They're 112 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: getting attacked in state legislatures, which is something that typically 113 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: a lot of packs focus on just the congressional and 114 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: as Democrats, we get decimated sometimes, especially in the South, 115 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: when it comes to those state legislative races. And so 116 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: both me and Christine have an extensive experience and winning 117 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: those type of races. But they're also the races that 118 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: we know are going to be the most important if 119 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 2: we're actually going to be able to progress our democracy 120 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: the way that America should be progressing at this point 121 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: in its history. 122 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: You know now, for we know that for decades, right 123 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: the Republican Party has understood the importance of the judiciary. 124 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: Just you know, this week there is reporting once again 125 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: out of Politico about uh my favorite evil villain, UH 126 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: Leonard Leo uh and the federal and the Federalist Society 127 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: UH and his work with Supreme Court Justice's wife Ginny Thomas, 128 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas's wife UH in order to essentially turn America 129 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: into their Christo fascist Disneyland. This is what I refer 130 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: to it as. And so the means that they have right, 131 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: the Federalist Society is backed by billions of dollars. They 132 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: have billion dollar benefactors, multiple Harlan Crowe being only one 133 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: of them, my other favorite super villain on the on 134 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: the right, only one of them. Talk to me about 135 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: the kind of resources that your initiative and this initiative 136 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: in general to try and come back, because this is 137 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: not just a informational campaign. You're talking about working against 138 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: multi billion dollar machines that have been in place for decades. 139 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: Well, again, we were very intentional in how we even 140 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 2: formed this pack in the first place. So we are 141 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: a hybrid pack, which means immediately out the gate, we can. 142 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: Both endorse and we can play with our superpack as well. 143 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: When you talk about judicial and legislative races oftentime, Republicans 144 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: have enormous superpacks to. 145 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: Fund these races. 146 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: Oftentimes Democrats do not invest the same I think every 147 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: now and then you get a race like we had 148 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. 149 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: Are weer this here? 150 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: But oftentimes that's not the case. Then when you talk 151 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 2: about if it's a candidate of color that is running 152 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: for one of these races, how much less money is 153 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: invested to them, even on the hearts side of what 154 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: their campaign can receive directly, it's just it's outrageous, but 155 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: it's not surprising at this point. So again, for us, 156 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: we have to be very intentional. We want to be authentic. 157 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: We want to create something that feels and looks different 158 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: than politics as usual, because you know, the run and 159 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: the male line and the Democratic Party is oftentimes you 160 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: want to engage black and brown and young voters two 161 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: three months out from the election when you need to vote. 162 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: But this work. 163 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 2: If you really want to change the trajectory that we're going, 164 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: you have to do that work all year round, and 165 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: you have to invest not just in the voters, but 166 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: be willing to invest in the candidates that look like 167 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: the base of your party. 168 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: What do you think is the biggest misconception that voters 169 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: have about the judiciary, about what it is that they 170 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: need to under stand and where their power lies. Right, 171 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: Because you know. Again, I take case in point as 172 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: to what is happening in Florida right with the governor's 173 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: ability to just up and move a district attorney because 174 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: he doesn't like them because they are a Democrat, a 175 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: duly elected district attorney. You see that with the changes 176 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: that were made in the Georgia Legislator, with a bill 177 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: that was just signed by Governor Brian Kemp that also 178 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: gave Republicans the ability in their supermajority to remove a 179 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: district attorney. Now he has come out and said that, oh, 180 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: this isn't about Fani and we're not going to remove 181 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: her because of the case against Donald Trump and his 182 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: eighteen other co defendants in the Rico case there. But 183 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: talk to me about the misconception that voters have in 184 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: terms of their power, and then how you can use 185 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: the cases that I've just mentioned, these issues that I've 186 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: just mentioned that people are now starting to connect the 187 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: dots like, wait a minute, I voted for this person 188 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: and now they can be boots it out and I 189 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: got no say it though, and there's no recourse. So 190 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: speak on that. 191 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: Well, I want to start with I'm not sure if I. 192 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: Would even call it a misconception as to I think 193 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: a lot of people just aren't educating and they're not 194 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 2: knowledgeable about it. I think for years in our politics 195 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: and intentionally done course, especially from a Republican, we like 196 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: to see electorate overall, our Republicans like to see an 197 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: uneducated electorate. And so if you don't even know how 198 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: that position could possibly impact you until it's too late, 199 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: you can't really do anything to stop it. And so 200 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: in the case of judicial races, I don't think people 201 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: were really paying attention. You know, everybody knows the Supreme Court, 202 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: but when you really start looking again over the last 203 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: two years and people are waking up to see, oh 204 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: my god, my rights are being taken away. And you know, 205 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: I thought my congress member fought for this, and I 206 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 2: thought this as a congressional bill. Why is the state 207 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: able to rekill this right? Or why can the court 208 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: say that we're not going to enforce the fact that 209 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: we should have fair districts in the state. I mean, 210 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: you look at Ohio and North Carolina right now, what 211 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: Republicans have done there with redistrict and essentially telling the court, hey, 212 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: we're not actually going to redraw these maps. And why 213 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: because both of those states have court seats that are 214 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: up in twenty twenty four that they're hoping to win, 215 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: so then they don't actually have to do the thing 216 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: that they're constitutionally bound to do. 217 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like one, Christopher, you do in 218 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: the Lord's work here right, like because you know it 219 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: is it is you right inside of this organization trying 220 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: to work inside of the rule of law right and 221 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: prepare and educate a constituency that has been purposefully lied 222 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: to right and made to feel powerless. Yes at a 223 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: time when their power and their vote is more important 224 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: than ever. And so it's like, just speak, you speak 225 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: to us about the the I guess the weight of 226 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: what it is that you're combating against. Because the people, 227 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: the opposition that we're talking about, they're pressing our constitution 228 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: right to its breaking point. And it's it's kind of 229 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: hard to continue to be on the up and up 230 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: and follow the rules when the other side is like, 231 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: what rules are you referring to? 232 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: Well, I think, for one, from the outset me and Christine, 233 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: this has really been our lifeblood work and our careers 234 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: up to this point. I think from all the work 235 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: she's done and electoral politics dedicated towards the Latino community. 236 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: My history working unapologetically for black organizations and younger organizations. 237 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: I think you have to be very intentional. You have 238 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: to be very sturdy at this time. And it's the 239 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: thing of when we created this is for the fact 240 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 2: that this work always needs to be done. But oftentimes 241 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: when it comes to funding this work, this is the 242 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: first thing that gets cut from any type of national pack. 243 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: It's the first thing that often gets underfunded at a 244 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: state party as well. And so for us, we know 245 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 2: it's a huge task, but also somebody still has. 246 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: To do it. We are not getting a better place. 247 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: We see Republicans more progressively after black men, after Latino men. 248 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: We have to And I keep saying the word intentional, 249 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: but I cannot stress enough. I think Democrats too often 250 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: aren't intentional with our work. And I think particularly for 251 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: progressive especially in the grassroots. 252 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: We've always been very intentional on how we plan. 253 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: I think it goes back to even old bombing campaign 254 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: days when you saw how organizing revolutionized politics. 255 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 3: So definitely immense, right, but it has to be done. 256 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: And it's everything that I've given up in my career 257 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 2: up to this point in the first place, do. 258 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: You think you know that people are more conscious to 259 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: and woke to the ways that this Republican Party is 260 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: trying to dissuade their power and trying to abuse the 261 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: judicial system. Because I asked this because you know, we 262 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: just a couple of what is it last month celebrated 263 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: or acknowledged the sixty year anniversary of the March on Washington, Right, 264 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: And we know that if you're really truly thinking about 265 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: what it means to live inside of a democratic society, 266 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: America has only been a democracy for the last sixty years, right, 267 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: Like that, that's very real. We don't say that enough. Right, 268 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: the mainstream definitely doesn't say it. He talks to, Oh, 269 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: America's been this great democracy. We're about to celebrate two 270 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years. And I'm like, first of all, 271 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: we may not make it. And second, the two hundred 272 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: and fifty years for who? And so when we think 273 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: about the last sixty years and really understand that it 274 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: was not just the vote that got you know, Black 275 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: Americans their rights as citizens of this country, that it 276 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: was the judiciary system. When we're looking at the integration 277 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: of schools, when we're looking at the voting Rights Bill. 278 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: When we're looking at all of these things, it went 279 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: through the courts, Republicans knew that. So in your opinion, right, like, 280 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: if Republicans knew that, oh my goodness, the judiciaries actually 281 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: working equitably right in terms of hearing these cases and 282 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: changing changing America suit by suit over the last sixty years. 283 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: What would in Democrats have then doubled down sixty years ago, 284 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: Christopher and been like, voting alone in presidential elections in 285 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: off cycle elections is not what is bringing America to 286 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: a more just place? 287 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: Well, I think it starts with again, Republicans plan long term. 288 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: Democrats oftentimes in the past sixty years planned short term. 289 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: We plan for the presidential We don't do a good 290 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: job of Advessican in the midterm or even in the 291 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 2: more local year. 292 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 3: That makes a difference when you're talking about voters, when or. 293 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: Not they're walking, they're paying attention to what the Republican Party. 294 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 3: Is doing right now? 295 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: How many voters really can even afford to take a 296 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: right from their everyday life to worry about whether or 297 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 2: not this impacts them. And so when we're talking about 298 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: how we're trying to change the trajectory of how people 299 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: vote and how they engage overall. 300 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 3: After that they've. 301 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: Been intentionally marginalized and systematically removed over time. That takes 302 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: a lot of money, That takes a lot of resources 303 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: to one rebuild that trust for people to have faith 304 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: in the political system in itself. And then it takes authenticity, 305 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: and then that means coming around when it's not just 306 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: election time, that means you know, if we're looking at 307 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: the presidential I got to applaud VP heras that she's 308 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: doing this college tour right now. That's what the administration 309 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: should be doing more of. Oftentimes, when Democrats lose, it's 310 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: not because they haven't done anything at all, it's that 311 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: we haven't messaged to our base what we've actually done. 312 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: Republicans always do that well. I think when we do 313 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: that well, we get results like Michigan and Pennsylvania in 314 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: last year's midterm. When we don't, we get Virginia in 315 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. That's literally how clearly it looks at 316 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: this point, and our politics are just getting more and 317 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: more polarized. There's not decorum, especially on the other side anymore. 318 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: And you know, we're really in the fight for our lives, 319 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: and it's not just going to be this cycle. I 320 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: think we're going to have a couple more cycles where 321 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: we're really battling out this ideology of whether or not 322 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: we're going to make this constitution actually look and represent 323 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: everybody who it should represent. 324 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: What do you hear from candidates right from folks that 325 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: you are endorsing about their desires in this time to 326 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: kind of enter into this really dangerous political environment. Because 327 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: let's be clear, you know, uh it was it was 328 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago on MSNBC and I forgive 329 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: me because I can't remember the name of the judge 330 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: who lost her son, right, Her son was murdered by 331 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: a man that came looking for her, and she warned 332 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: on the show that, like this is just the beginning, 333 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: right that the way that we've just been notified that 334 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: Fanie willis her entire family and staff have been docked 335 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: by a Russian intel site and there's no way for 336 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: the Justice Department to bring that information down her private information, 337 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: and so it is becoming increasingly more dangerous to enter 338 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: into this field. So what are you hearing from folks 339 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: that are showing the courage and the temerity to continue 340 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: to run. 341 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 2: They want support, and they want support early. They want 342 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: to feel like they have a community. I think when 343 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: you talk about why we focus on the type of 344 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: candidates that we focus on, both me and Christine have 345 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 2: seen through our years that candidates having a cohort of 346 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: other candidates running in races like them, it does help 347 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 2: them feel better. They're able to share ideas, They're able 348 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: to share a strategy. I think about particularly DA races, 349 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: and I've worked for a couple in my career. Those 350 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: are probably some of the most vicious. 351 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: Races I've ever seen, where they. 352 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 2: Get really personal nasty, even in democratic primary, particularly against 353 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: candidates of color and women of color when they're running 354 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: for seats, and so if we're asking them to be 355 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: vigilant and stand and keep running for. 356 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 3: These seats because the community meets to. 357 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: See more of unapologetic into candidates running, and we also 358 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: have to be prepared to support them early and often 359 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: throughout the entire process and make sure that they know 360 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: that they're not going at it. 361 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: A long well. My last a question for you is 362 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: how do you well, it's a two parter one, how 363 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: do you stay hopeful during this time? During you know, 364 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: the launch of this really important pack. And then two, 365 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: please tell people who are listening how they can get involved, 366 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: because that is a question that I get asked all 367 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: the time. What can I do? So I want to 368 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: give you the opportunity to speak on that. 369 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 3: Well, for me, everything starts with my faith. 370 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: I'm a firm believer that keeps me grande even when 371 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: times are rough out here. But also again, the work 372 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: has to be done, and I would rather be the 373 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: one handling it than leave it up to chance. That's 374 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: how I was raised. You know, you want and you 375 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: hope for support, but also you have to be prepared 376 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: to carry it away until extra support comes along or 377 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: it doesn't come at all. And so it's bigger than me, 378 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: and that makes it a lot easier to do this 379 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: work when you can always keep in mind that it's 380 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: bigger than you and you're doing it for the right reasons. 381 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: For anybody that wants to support and help this work, 382 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: they can go to www dot eight ataction dot org. 383 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: You can sign up to get involved and whether or 384 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: not you want to sign up for volunteer opportunities. But 385 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 2: of course, early on, being a progressive org, we largely 386 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: rely on grassroots support as well, So we definitely those 387 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: five to twenty five dollars donations really make a difference 388 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: early on, especially being a business founded by two people 389 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 2: of color, when I don't have to explain that oftentimes 390 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 2: we have to do two and three times over and 391 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: know every the writing is on the wall for this work, we. 392 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 3: Still have to prove ourselves even more even with the 393 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 3: record that we have. 394 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: Well, Christopher, I appreciate you making the time for wok 395 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: F and for the work that you're doing, and I 396 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: hope that you will come back and join us again. Folks, 397 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: a organization is advance the electorate pack and do do 398 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: absolutely check it out and lend your support any way 399 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: that you can appreciate you. That is it for me today, 400 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: dear friends on wok F as always power to the 401 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: people and to all the people. Power, get woke and 402 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: stay woke as fuck.