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Speaker 1: Give me the music. Wine Down with Janet Kramer and

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio podcast, Mike, do you want to do that?

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Speaker 1: It's like it's claim to fame. Oh I got Easton

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Speaker 1: Are Sweet? Producer left it in and he's like, Babe, babe,

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Speaker 1: did you heard that? East left my braining? The biggest

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Speaker 1: thing I was worried about wasn't about anything I said.

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Speaker 1: It was the last ten seconds of the whole second

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Speaker 1: d just give me one more. I love it. Jenn.

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Speaker 1: You're like a worker. Be over there, what are you doing? Well?

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Speaker 1: It was really funny this morning. I was packing my

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Speaker 1: car up to get into work, and my phone was

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Speaker 1: in my pocket, and all of a sudden I heard

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Speaker 1: my sister saying, are you trying to call me? Are

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Speaker 1: you trying to call me? But there I but face

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Speaker 1: timed her so she saw a nice picture of your butt.

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Speaker 1: It was so funny. So she was actually weaving on

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Speaker 1: this loomb. She was making this beautiful wall art. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm ordering one and I'm going to learn to do it. Um.

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Speaker 1: Our grandmother was a master weaver. Like she used to

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Speaker 1: weave pretty wall art. So for those of you that

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Speaker 1: can't see, I see there's like a lot on Etsy,

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Speaker 1: like the real pretty like Macromay. We So this is

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Speaker 1: what she was doing and our other sister does it too.

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Speaker 1: When they got into like this argument because the one

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Speaker 1: sister thought the other one was copying her. And so

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Speaker 1: my one sister, Rachel I was talking to this morning.

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Speaker 1: She said, you should order one because it makes you, like,

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Speaker 1: it makes me feel closer to Grandma, like you're doing

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Speaker 1: something that she really loves, and you get to be

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Speaker 1: really creative. And it's like, I don't know, I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of scared because I don't want to be picking. No.

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Speaker 1: I well I do. I'm afraid that the other sister

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Speaker 1: will get mad. And I'm now weaving. But then I

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Speaker 1: got to work and I was like, I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to I'm allowed to order a room if you want

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Speaker 1: to weave. Yeah, do you? Yeah? So I did it.

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Speaker 1: I just ordered. It'll be here next Thursday, and so

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be weaving all weekend. I have no

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Speaker 1: idea how to do it. Will you make me a

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Speaker 1: weave for the like Jolie's room, Yes, make something cute?

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Speaker 1: I will. That will be my first one. What if

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Speaker 1: we hate the weave them? Mike, Like, that's going to

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Speaker 1: be awkward. Then she comes over to see they's like, not,

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Speaker 1: it's not up to do. That's the worst of his

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Speaker 1: My aunt oh got pretty God, she's out listing right now,

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Speaker 1: Like I pray, I'm like sledding a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: have to. She doesn't even know the podcast. But let's

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Speaker 1: just say someone like drew something and it's like, send

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Speaker 1: me a picture of where you put it. And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I think I threw it all in the trash kill. No, no,

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Speaker 1: you didn't. You're always to keep that. The person comes over,

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Speaker 1: story it's put it away bad. I mean he threw

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Speaker 1: think I might have left it at my mom's and

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Speaker 1: then like the dog might have eaten it or something

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Speaker 1: like something like homework. I don't god, I feel it's

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Speaker 1: just like she's very like, oh my god. I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm already like the black sheet. But that side of

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Speaker 1: the family, so it's fine. I'm so just like go

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Speaker 1: down hill, but like I will, I will not come

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Speaker 1: here rescue. You are doing this on your own, you know. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't even think my dad knows

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Speaker 1: I have a podcast. I don't know, but I just

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Speaker 1: I feel very like black Sheet, but that side of

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Speaker 1: the family. So it's just she's very artistic, Like I mean,

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Speaker 1: She's an incredible artist. But like it's just a different style.

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Speaker 1: just you know, and she's always like, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna stop. I'm stopping. I'm just stopping. I'm talking now,

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Speaker 1: my clothes. But you know what, I'm like, I'm already

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Speaker 1: far gone on that side, Like they just think I'm

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Speaker 1: like a lost cause. So can you give us an update.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you're feeling. I'm feeling pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I'm still nauseous at night, but I'm feeling I'm I

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Speaker 1: haven't peeped in like a couple of weeks, which is

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Speaker 1: maternity clothes from Julie? I kept some maternity close you did, Yes,

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Speaker 1: But what I'm really excited about is about thrown Up

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Speaker 1: because it's it's basically consignment but like good good clothing,

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Speaker 1: I love off It's amazing. But again, like Michael's always like,

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Speaker 1: why are you buying that for Jolie when She's going

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Speaker 1: that she's going to grow. I'll grow it. Once you

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Speaker 1: and he totally skips the sizes. Oh my god, that's jastic. Well.

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Speaker 1: an extra thirty percent off today. Okay, So from our

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Speaker 1: last show, we had John Edward on and he started

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Speaker 1: there were Me, Mike and General all texting and it

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Speaker 1: could be really cool to get like an astrolog drawing

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Speaker 1: because I kind of want to know more about my signs.

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Speaker 1: Mike has no idea. We started reading some about his

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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm doing great? How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I've got my husband Michael in the room,

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Speaker 1: We got a whole bunch of people having a party.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally. And um, I will I will start

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Speaker 1: think it's weird that it's like you, you go off

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Speaker 1: don't have to believe I tell everybody this. You don't

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Speaker 1: You don't have to even Oh my god, he's such

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Speaker 1: Fantastic won over already you're on speed dial from Mike. Now,

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Speaker 1: because you get so excited and my writer, am I right?

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Speaker 1: you've got so much fire, Janna, you get so enthusiastic

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Speaker 1: and he'll talk when he's in the mood. That's the

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Speaker 1: thing about Mike. He'll start going. You just can't push him.

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Speaker 1: a camera in my house? There's a camera just behind you. Look,

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Speaker 1: don't not just kidding. This is very predictable, and it's

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Speaker 1: So your chances are fascinating because it could easily be

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Speaker 1: he's one is a sad squares. She might can detach

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Speaker 1: So are you dancing or clashing? Right now? We're dancing,

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Speaker 1: But when we clash, it's like divorce layers. Yeah, for

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Speaker 1: for me, well, it's just it's like when we we love,

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Speaker 1: the wall. It's very passionate. It's like our our couple

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Speaker 1: of therapist is like it's you know, no one wants

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Speaker 1: guys go at each other. Yeah, and and this is

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Speaker 1: that is you, because you're so passionate. He would be

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Speaker 1: much more detached if you want. It's great talking to Deborah,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you have a great I wish you

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Speaker 1: could see no victory dance, but you're bringing him light.

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Speaker 1: So without you around, yeah, be far more detached and

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Speaker 1: that Mike might come back, come back. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: fall in love with themselves stop judging over being on

423
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 1: her show. We appreciate it so much. And you are

424
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: a beautiful light and something. You want me to tell

425
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: you what your destiny is, you have to call me again.

426
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 1: Deals I She's awesome, Mike, you were like about to cry. No,

427
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: it's true. I did feel some you know, salty discharge

428
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: coming out of my eyes. I don't know what you

429
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: call those things, but I'm not used to it, um whatever.

430
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: But then I will say, after thinking about then my

431
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: skepticism comes into play, which part in a sense of Okay,

432
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: she knew she's coming on the show. Did she like Google?

433
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: She saw in two thousand sixteen that this stuff happened,

434
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: and she just decided to say, hey, and two sixteen,

435
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: your life changed. I don't think so. I don't either. Yeah,

436
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: but she doesn't seem like the googling time, No, not

437
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 1: at all. She seems like she just sounds had two

438
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: names in an emails like right, let me do their

439
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: charge exactly. Yeah, and the information that we sent in

440
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: about where we're born in place and all that stuff.

441
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: And then she then she charted out where all the

442
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: planets were and then dissected them and evaluated them. That

443
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: sends it to you, guys, so you can read it

444
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: if you have you ever written a comprehensive astrological report

445
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: on your So I had one done and it came

446
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: in a book and it was so spot on. It

447
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: was the most amazing thing to read about yourself and go,

448
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's me, Oh my god, oh my god.

449
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 1: Like you just you're in awe. I mean, she nailed

450
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: literally everything that she talked about with Jane and I.

451
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: And it wasn't it wasn't subjective, it wasn't based on

452
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: a point of view or anything. It was black and

453
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: white like that is kind of how we are. There

454
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: was no subjectiveness to it. It was fascinating in it well,

455
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: and she couldn't have googled that, oh, not at all,

456
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: So that the only thing that had me skeptical was

457
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: the whole thing about change. But I mean, even like

458
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: the secret Keeper and you know, it's to be honest.

459
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: Like that's the biggest thing issue my entire life is honesty,

460
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: which sucks, but which is why it's I mean, shoot,

461
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 1: last night I was you know, J and I are

462
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: checking in and I had to be honest about something.

463
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: It's like pulling tee sometimes. Yeah, I mean it literally

464
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: was like it took him like five minutes to tell

465
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: me his like his lie of the day. And I'm like, like,

466
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: it's incredible the fear that comes over you. Yeah, it

467
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: wasn't even that. That wasn't even a lie. It was

468
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: just omission thus far, something that happened in the morning

469
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: that I hadn't told her yet that I needed to,

470
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: and it was just by the end of the day

471
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: it was just eat me alive. And it was just

472
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: so hard because my fear around telling the truth and

473
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: the repercussions that might come from that so ingrained in

474
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: me for so long in my life that I'm still

475
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: trying to practice to get out of that. And so

476
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: she talks about the honesty and the secret keeping, and

477
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: I think, Hi, that's it, that's that's crazy. I loved it.

478
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: You guys work so hard on the relationship. No, just

479
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: you guys are so committed. You guys are going to

480
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: I don't care what the charts say. You guys are

481
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: going to make good. Anybody who's that committed to growing together. Yeah,

482
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: but taking the time to check in with each other

483
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: at night, you guys, you guys are in it for

484
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: the long haul. I will say like if like, I mean,

485
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: I agree, but I would say, like if something were

486
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: to happen, like, no one could say we didn't try

487
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: at this point, it's not like, oh that's just another

488
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: like celebrity relationship that you know what it's like. No,

489
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: we like people would be like they thought they tried,

490
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: and that is like something that I can you can

491
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: look us at. Yeah, and again what I said to

492
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: what I wanted to say to Jolie, like I tried,

493
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: and you tried, Like we've were trying. So um, we

494
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: actually have a couple of therapy after this, so it's

495
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: probably better we do the podcast than couples. Sometimes after

496
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: couples we don't talk. But no, we've ben we've done

497
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: really well after couples. It's because of the place that

498
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: we're getting with communication and growing. And but I would

499
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: imagine you need some time in space after sometimes sometimes

500
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: we need it just depends or do you drive separately? Well,

501
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: we live walking distance, so sometimes like he'll drive home

502
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: and I'll walk home or vice versa. Yeah, So, but lately,

503
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: like we've done well, like usually it's one of us

504
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: leaping before the other person, like starving out of the room.

505
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, therapists been high fiveing us on the way out, guys,

506
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: and so we'll see. But you're so tell me about

507
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: your psychology, because that's something where if I was to

508
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: ever go back to school, that would be what I

509
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: want to to study. And I'm just so afraid of

510
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: like them the classes to get there, like math and stuff,

511
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: because I'm stupid, so well, I don't know, like the

512
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: time stated. So my undergrad is when I had most

513
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: of my math and statistics, and then in my graduate

514
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: program I chose to um work on a qualitative thesis

515
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: instead of a quantitative qualitative is experience based on experience.

516
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: So when you're doing your research, you interview maybe ten

517
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: to fifteen people who have all had a similar experience,

518
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: and then find the themes and those experience. Maybe it's

519
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: Greef for insecurity or spiritual awakening, whatever it might be.

520
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: Quantitative is when you do all the numbers and you're

521
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: just crunching statistics. And that's dreadful for me because I'm

522
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: not good with numbers. So I decided I went for

523
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: a master's in clinical Psychology humanistic which is UM. It's

524
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: has a lot of mysticism in it, and that's why

525
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: I was drawn to it. Of course, uh intuition, dream,

526
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: dream analysis. It's more about being and you know, finding

527
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: how to be in the world. Do you take clients

528
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: or is it I used to I years ago, over

529
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, Over twenty years ago, I UM. I

530
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: used to work with teenage girls who lived in residential

531
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: facilities and I loved working with them. And then I

532
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: also used to administer and evaluate all of the psychologically

533
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: like psychologicals for criminal and family court. So I would

534
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: test everyone involved in the case, evaluate write reports, and

535
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: then I would go testify. So and I was really

536
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: young to be doing that, but it was a really

537
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: great experience. That's really cool. And do you mess up?

538
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't because I have so many friends who use

539
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: me as a therapist. So I still get that, like

540
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: us on the show, like your our therapist, at least

541
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: one phone call or I get a text or you know.

542
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: So I always say, like even in my Instagram handle,

543
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: I think it says in therapist to money because because

544
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: I am of the people. But I will probably you know,

545
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: maybe when I'm sixty. Yeah, maybe I'll open an office

546
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: start taking clients again. When when when it needs your

547
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: needs feeding in the soul, then yeah, do it. But

548
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: the one thing I loved working on my master's in

549
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: clinical second, I did go post um postgrad two like

550
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: five classes away from my society. I just I stopped

551
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: when I was um, when I had Rocco, I loved.

552
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: You have to do your work to become a therapist.

553
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: You have to deal with all of your issues, so

554
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: you have to face everything because you can't go into

555
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: a room and be unhealthy. Yeah, and trying to try

556
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: to give other people advice, right, Yeah, that makes so

557
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: much sense. That makes a lot of sense. Not that

558
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: I have I'm not saying I have no issues. I've

559
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: got issues. Of course, we all have issues. That's a

560
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: thing you can't you have to work out, like the

561
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: trauma maybe or childhood stuff like to understand and go

562
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: through and absolutely, yeah that makes sense. A quick just

563
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: a quick explanation on you said dream analysis. So is

564
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: it like I know, like Janice Google, she's a Google machine,

565
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: um where you know it's like, oh, I how to

566
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: dream about polar bears and that means some crazy thing

567
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: like is it that simple or it's not that simple.

568
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: What I always tell people is keep a journal next

569
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: to your bad if you wake up in the middle

570
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: of the night and you know you been dreaming, right

571
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: down everything you possibly can. It doesn't even have to

572
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: be legible. It can just be bullet points. It can

573
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: be white blanket it was cold outside, you know whatever.

574
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: I had blue on um or in the morning. Just

575
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: take a couple minutes before you jump out of bed.

576
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm guilty of totally just jumping out of bed. And

577
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: when you have kids, you that's what you do. Take

578
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes and try and remember your dreams.

579
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: I remembered my dream last night. But maybe you can,

580
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: like try and help me break down Yeah, I have

581
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: like very vivid dreams when I'm pregnant. It's just it's nuts.

582
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean it seems so real. So this is so random.

583
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: But we were at Julianne Huff's house and or the

584
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: husband Brooks. I mean we we've never hung out with

585
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: them ever. I've only known her from when she was

586
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: the judge Dancing at the Stars and I was on

587
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: the show. You and I were there, babe, and we

588
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: had a couple of therapy that we needed to go to,

589
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: but we were having so much fun at their house

590
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: that we decided to stay. And You're like, oh, we'll

591
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: just I'll text in and Tom. We're just going to

592
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: do like an hour. But it was like snowing, so

593
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,239
Speaker 1: we went. So we were we were we were like

594
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: sliding down this hill, but then all of a sudden

595
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: it turned into like a water park and Jolie was

596
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: there with us, like she she came. So that was

597
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: my dream, like we were hanging out it Like what

598
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: do you idolize the relationship between those two? I think

599
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: there I told this is where I ran into her

600
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: at UM I get my hair at nine one and

601
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: um we were sitting next to each other at the

602
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: sink bowls, and I was like, you guys are just

603
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: so cute together, Like he loves you, you love him

604
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: like you guys like from what I say on Instagram,

605
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: like they have like an amazing relationship. So maybe like

606
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to stay to like hang out with them,

607
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: to like have that rub rub off on us, because

608
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: couples therapy was involved in that as well. Sometimes they're

609
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: really easy to dive sack and other times you have

610
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: to you know, go through and really pick up the themes. Yeah, like, oh,

611
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: I must have been feeling insecure. Yeah, you know, oh

612
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: it's snowing, which could mean you know, blurry vision or

613
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: treacherous roads or but then you're on the water slide

614
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: and you're happy slide water park, so weird. Michael. Do

615
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: you remember any of your dreams sately? I mean the

616
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: last one I had. If I would have remembered every detail,

617
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: it could have been like a smash of the box

618
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: office aliens and explosions. And I think the most stereotypical

619
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: guy dream, Like I think I had like you know,

620
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: two guns and hands and like jumping over saving people.

621
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: So I think that was the last dream I remember.

622
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: And what does that mean is that just like a dude,

623
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: and you know, and sometimes they're just entertaining, right you

624
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: just you just have these dreams. You can't really explain them,

625
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: can you. Is it true that you really can't die

626
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: in your dream? It's every time I've almost died, I've

627
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: oken up. Oh, but I don't know. Interesting because I've

628
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: heard like if you do die like you, then you're dead. You.

629
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: That reminds me of going into the bathroom like in

630
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: third grade and turning off all the lights and going

631
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: bloody Mary, bloody hair because blood. Yeah, I don't think so.

632
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: By the way, you guys are all looking at me

633
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: because you probably wonder about my amazing hair and it

634
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: looks incredible. I take my extensions out and I've been

635
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Speaker 1: do you want to do the first email? Sure, let's

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Speaker 1: do it. Okay, So from Samantha, I can really resonate

721
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: with this email. I'm at the title. Think you have

722
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: no idea? My mother in law is uber crazy? Hey,

723
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: Pam kidding, I'm kidding. Wait, what who's your mother in law?

724
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: Was ex mother in law? I'm not going to say

725
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: her name. Okay, can we talk about it or know

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00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: for sure. So let me just before we do this

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Speaker 1: this I have so much experience eighteen nineteen years of

728
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Speaker 1: experience with us. So, I mean it started before we

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Speaker 1: were married. But she had an idea of who was

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Speaker 1: going to marry her son and it was not it

731
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: was not me. And so we had this huge Middle

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Speaker 1: Eastern wedding by the way, this is John story. And

733
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Speaker 1: she was supposed to she she was the mother's were

734
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Speaker 1: so brown or dark page or from Yeah, I gave

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Speaker 1: them many options. She showed me the dress that she

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Speaker 1: was going to quote unquote going to wear. But then

738
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Speaker 1: she showed up and all black to my wedding. I

739
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Speaker 1: didn't say a word to me, not one word all day.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it just went on and on

741
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Speaker 1: and on that I mean that that was the start

742
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: of that. That was what was the worst thing that

743
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: ever happened that she did. After we got married. She

744
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Speaker 1: come over to the house one day and UM told him, like,

745
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: she said, you should just come home and leave, get divorced.

746
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Speaker 1: I can tell you're not happy. You should be, yes,

747
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: And she was really she wouldn't call me by my

748
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: name she would say, you're like when she was talking

749
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: to her daughter, she would say, your brother's wife. You know,

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00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: she wouldn't address you, she wouldn't address me. Yeah, well

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00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: she must be happy now that you guys are divorced,

752
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: all right, I would imagine. I don't know. Those are

753
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Speaker 1: just a couple of the stories. Let's hearing. I should

754
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: have I should have been more aware before I got

755
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: married because she was acting the same way, and I

756
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: really should have taken note. Okay, because Samantha, I'm going

757
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: to read your email and then I'm going to give

758
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: you some advice. I'm getting married on August eleven to

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Speaker 1: my amazing fiance, Michael. We've been dating for three and

760
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: a half years, and I couldn't be happier his His mother,

761
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: on the other hand, is uber crazy. She constantly is

762
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: making all of my decisions about the wedding about her.

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00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: She cries to Michael about how terrible I am, but

764
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the family loves me. I don't know

765
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: what to do because I don't want Michael to feel

766
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: like he's stuck between me and his mother. But at

767
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: the same time, I feel like he needs to have

768
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: some loyalty towards me. I'm stuck and needs some of

769
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: your lovely advice, Samantha. He has to be on your side.

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00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: And yes, she is his mother, but you two are

771
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: getting married, and you two are going to be living

772
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Speaker 1: in a house and in the future raising children together,

773
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: and she has nothing to do about that. She is

774
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: the grandmother and she is the mother in law. It's

775
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: you two. You two are the team. You can be

776
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: gracious and sweet and kind to her, but he has

777
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: to be on your side because this will not end

778
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: if he's not on your side. She has the power.

779
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: I agree, Michael. What I will say, I totally agree

780
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: Jen and Janna. My advice here would be, Samantha, go

781
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: to Michael and tell him, how do you feel about

782
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: all this? Yeah, from a good place. Tell him kindly

783
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: request that he talks to his mother, but also tell

784
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: him if he does not not, then you will. And

785
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: if he does not, you go to your future mother

786
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: in law in a healthy way and say, what's going

787
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: on here? Be adults and ask her directly. It is

788
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: probably gonna make her super uncomfortable. It's probably gonna make

789
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: you super uncomfortable, but that's the only choice you have.

790
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: You can't Something has to be the adult here. Someone

791
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: has to Clearly she's not being so Samantha, you go

792
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: be the adult. You address it to her. I would

793
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: like to think I make up that she might have

794
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: a newfound respect for you, that you're stepping up and

795
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: being like, look, I'm marrying your son. What do we

796
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: have to do to work our relationship out? What is

797
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: your issue with me? What is the underlying meaning of this?

798
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: You're not going to lose your son. We're still gonna

799
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: be a part of the family. We're all we're all family. Now.

800
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere. But hold on a second. Though,

801
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: you had a hard time with your mom stepping aside

802
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: like from because you were a mama's boy. So I

803
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: mean you have to have some empathy for Michael being

804
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: Michael and understanding like that. That's hard. No, I do.

805
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 1: But this aspect, like this is extremes when it's selling

806
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: Pam like hated me or no, not at all. She

807
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: loves loves you and loves you, And it wasn't you know,

808
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: y'all's biggest thing was about like sharing holidays and stuff

809
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: like this, and her talking about Christmas. But and then

810
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: but then also you're saying you were talking about having

811
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: traditions for Fourth July and Thanksgiving. So it's like you

812
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: guys are both kind of playing your ground on what

813
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: you wanted to keep as a tradition that you were

814
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: both used to. So it's not like she hated you.

815
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: There's no animosity between and if there was stepped in, yeah, yeah,

816
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: my mom was like I reckon Jana and all this stuff,

817
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: then that had been one thing, but that was never

818
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: the case. So this is an extreme case that she

819
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: needs to address. And my only concern is that the

820
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: mother in law won't be the future mother in law

821
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: won't be aware enough. Absolutely, that's it's going to be

822
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: a struggle. It really is, Samantha. And I think it

823
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: is too because of the age of the adults. Like

824
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: even like when I've tried to talk to my mom,

825
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: it's like they don't it's like they didn't have and

826
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: not the therapy, but they don't know how to communicate.

827
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: I feel like to be um, you know, vulnerable, So

828
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: that's in to listen and to not get defensive. So

829
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: I think that that might be really hard for Symantha,

830
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: But just try to be the adults. Try to be

831
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: calm and know that you said all the things from

832
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: a good place and from a place of yeah, and

833
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: just be like, if they're what can I do to

834
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: like you? Know? It's not like you want to change

835
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: things to make her like you. But at the same time,

836
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: you don't want to have this going on for your

837
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: entire marriage, because that's being exhausting. It becomes a poison,

838
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 1: it really does. It becomes a poison. Well, I'm lucky

839
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: that I have Pam Howney. You want to read the

840
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: next one? Sure? This email is from Sarah Sarah, okay,

841
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: and there's another one Jane, which I think we should

842
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: read too. Okay, that's a good one for both of us.

843
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: All right, So from Sarah, my boyfriend is extremely insecure.

844
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: My boyfriend was previously cheated on by his X of

845
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: five years. Coming into our relationship sometime later, he continues

846
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: to be very insecure about anything and everything. For example,

847
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: I asked him if it's okay if I celebrated an

848
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: engagement dinner with two other girls. He responds, yes, of course, honey,

849
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: So I told them yes. Later he said he was

850
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: saying that sarcastically. Mind you, it's on a Thursday after work.

851
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: He proceeds to say, well, me and my buddy are

852
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: going out for pizza wings and beer. I don't care

853
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: if he does. However, we got into a huge argument

854
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: and I told him that if he cannot trust me

855
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: for something that's simple and small, then we shouldn't be together.

856
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm just exhausted with this. I need all hands on deck,

857
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: including Mike's, to get a man's perspective. All right, So

858
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: first things first is I don't think there's room for

859
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: sarcasm in a relationship when it comes to asking direct

860
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: questions and wanting direct answers. There, that's just that's a

861
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: cop out. That's that's bad communication. You're not gonna get

862
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: any think done. That builds resentment, that's miss communication, and

863
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: it's just it's just gonna cause a lot of issues. Yeah,

864
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: because he said yes, then it's like your girlfriends. And

865
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: then he's gonna make her feel bad by saying how sarcastic? Well,

866
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: how how is Sarah supposed to know you're being sarcastic?

867
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: You can't know. That's childhood. You can't be sarcastic in

868
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: that um And then and then him coming back and saying, well,

869
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,479
Speaker 1: I'm going out for pizza, you know, for pizza wings

870
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 1: and beer, and my buddies. That's just being childish, you said,

871
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: when you read it like it just seems immature. Ye.

872
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: And then but also you know, she says that they

873
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: got into a huge argument and that she says, I

874
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: if he cannot trust her with something that's simple, then

875
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be together. And that's where I'll get his back,

876
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: where I don't say, we'll just be careful minimizing his

877
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: feelings about something. Okay, So clearly he had he's had

878
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: issues with infidelity in previous relationship, and he's carrying that

879
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: into y'all's relationship, which is unfair. But everybody has her baggage, right,

880
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: everyone has their baggage. But him acting out around this

881
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: in a sense of just acting childish what I mean

882
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 1: like physically acting now, but acting childish and the mature

883
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: around this topic, minimizing his feelings around it is only

884
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: gonna make it worse because he's not feeling heart So

885
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: it's just going to take a sit down between you two, Sarah.

886
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: You tell him and validate his feelings of having fear

887
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: because of his past relationship history. Reassure him that you

888
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: love him and you would never even dream about doing

889
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: something to hurt him and then and then you know,

890
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: be like, how can we handle the situation in the future.

891
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: But the key is to validate his fears going into it,

892
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: because clearly through this example that is he's speaking from

893
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: a place of fear. That's it. I get that. But

894
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: what I'll disagree with with you, babe and agree with

895
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: Sarah is like something that is so small and simple

896
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: where it's like, like, that's so like I know, like

897
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying because we're like we're going

898
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: through it and stuff. But at the same time, I'm like,

899
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: if it's that's what they're arguing about, something that's so

900
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: like simple like that, it's like God, like, it's gonna

901
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: be exhausting move having moving forward with like other things well,

902
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: and what happens when the big stuff comes? Right? Yes,

903
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: I agree that I'm saying, example, nip this in the

904
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: butt now, because that's going to help you communicate better

905
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: when the big Yeah, But I do agree with you

906
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: with like, you know, not making it because to him,

907
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: it's not simple. It's a big not about the lamp

908
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: shade feeling, it's about something else. He doesn't know how

909
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: to articulate that to her because she has done nothing

910
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: to hurt him as far as we know, so he

911
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: just you know, you guys need to have an honest

912
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: conversation about that because it's coming from somewhere else. Just

913
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: like when Mike and I got into a fight. Um,

914
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: it's we got to fight over a lampshade, but it

915
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: wasn't about the lamp shade. It was about something else

916
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: that I was having issues about. So I'm always like,

917
00:50:53,040 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: it's not about the lamp shade, thade. Um. Before we

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Speaker 1: read you, guys, an email from Jane. This is a

945
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: good one. The title is we have similar stories, don't

946
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: dont done? Your story and mine are so similar with

947
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: a bit of an age difference. I'm a fifty year

948
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: old mother of two teenagers, married seventeen years, I was

949
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: the one who wanted sex more than my husband. My

950
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: husband confessed a year long affair with our mutual female friend.

951
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: Double portrayed, Yeah, working on our marriage, which is better

952
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: than ever even our sex life. Listen to episode four twice.

953
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 1: I cried both times. I'm sorry. I can completely relate

954
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: to all of your triggers and feelings after listening to

955
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: episode twelve, here's my question, how do you reconcile balance?

956
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: John Edwards comments about positive energy, what you put out

957
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: there is what you attract, arguing for the negative, which

958
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: is based on fear with these fears and triggers we

959
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: are experiencing after the infidelity. Wait, I don't understand that.

960
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: So she's asking, you know, John Edwards said, what you

961
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: put out you get back, So mind be mindful of

962
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: your thoughts. So she I think what she's asking is,

963
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm so worried that he's going to go have another

964
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: affair that am I putting that out there in the

965
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: universe and he's going to do it because that's the

966
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: energy and putting out I interpret another way where you

967
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: want to have, you know, positive thoughts to have a

968
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: positive life around you, right around yourself with that, But

969
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: you're naturally being the victim of this betrayal, You're going

970
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: to have those negative thoughts. So I think she's scared

971
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: of yes, you know, especially the same thing, having those

972
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: negative thoughts and creep in. Will that affect the positivity

973
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: the positive environment she's trying to create with her husband. Yeah,

974
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: And she goes on to say, I'm trying to create

975
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: a positive environment from healing from this infidelity, but am

976
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: getting bogged down by the trigger as fears and insecurities.

977
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: I feel as though I need to be constantly reminded

978
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: that I was the one who has chosen and why

979
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: that's not what I want to attract for the new

980
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: marriage that we are working towards. And and that's you know, Jane,

981
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: I can I can totally get the triggers and fears

982
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: and insecurities. And that's where you know your partner, like

983
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: Mike has done a good job now with doing and

984
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: he took a good year and a half to get

985
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: to the point where it's like they can um acknowledge

986
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: your triggers and fears and insecurity insecurities. But it's also

987
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: it's on us, Jane, to be able to let the

988
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: past be the past and it's hard, but not let

989
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: it bogged down out. It's okay. If it creeps in, um,

990
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: it still does for me, it might just not be

991
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: a minute now, maybe it's just a few seconds, and

992
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: then I say, Okay, that was the past, let's move forward.

993
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: What's the present. And so I'm just trying to stay

994
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: in the present and trying not to put that negative

995
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: and negative energy out there because we don't want that

996
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: person back in our life. For those right and you

997
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 1: can still, Jane, from from just the experience that Jane

998
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: and I have gone through, do you have every right

999
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: to have those negative feelings? You have every right to

1000
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: feel that way, to express those feelings now by by you, uh,

1001
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: I haven't trying to say that by articulating them in

1002
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: a healthy way to your husband, by coming to him

1003
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: and expressing, hey, I'm feeling this way. As opposed to

1004
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: being passive, aggressive, or holding things against him or being resentful,

1005
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: that's how that negativity is going to creep into your life.

1006
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: But if you have those negative feelings and talk about

1007
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: them in a healthy way, then I don't think that

1008
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: negativity creeps into the life around you because you're handing

1009
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: things in a positive, healthy way. I agree, you know,

1010
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: so I think that's the key, that's been the key

1011
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: for us um which neither of us do perfectly all

1012
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 1: the time, because everyone's going to bring in a negative

1013
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: energy we all have. Yeah, that's that's just human, whether

1014
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: there was infidelity, where we all have fears, whether it's

1015
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: work or relationships or like split money. Like, we all

1016
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: have our fears with all of our insecurities. That's how

1017
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: much we let them come in. And if we don't

1018
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,959
Speaker 1: speak on it, then it's going to continue to take

1019
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,479
Speaker 1: over what we really want, the positivity. It's all about

1020
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 1: being able to manage them in a healthy way. Yeah, yes, bam,

1021
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for listening though, Yeah, thank you Jane

1022
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: twice and all in so and I love too that

1023
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: we have such a wide range of listeners on the

1024
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: show from teenagers too. I'll be curious to know how

1025
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: recent the affair was. Yeah, but it's probably you know,

1026
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: at least our timeline, because they said their marriage has

1027
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: been better than ever even their sex life. You know,

1028
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: we're reaching that point. So they're working on it. They're

1029
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: working on it, and you guys, for your kids, and

1030
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: that's a great you know, I don't know when infidite

1031
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: had happened. But that's really great for the kids to

1032
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: see that they're working through it, right, because I mean,

1033
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: I remember my parents got divorced. I knew about the affair.

1034
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I basically caught my dad in the affair,

1035
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: and you know, they tried for maybe a month, but

1036
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: then my dad was in love with his affair girl.

1037
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: But it's like I saw, so I'm like that that

1038
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: is what I saw. That is what I saw men do.

1039
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: Like so it's like, but if I would have saw

1040
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: them work on it, then I maybe would have had

1041
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: a different perspective. So you saw that answer in which

1042
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: a lot of kids nowadays see because divorce raised No,

1043
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: it's more than that. More than that. I mean, that's

1044
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: insane that people just treat it like it's just a

1045
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: button that you just pushed. Well, I mean I can't talk.

1046
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,479
Speaker 1: I've been divorced twice. But I mean, like again, mine

1047
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: were like I was nineteen, went through a drive fay

1048
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: didn't even know the guy, and then the other one.

1049
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: You know, we were married for a week and you know,

1050
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: obviously now we're best friends, but you know this, those

1051
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: were just weddings or not even the first one wasn't

1052
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: even a wedding. It was literally drive through in Vegas.

1053
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Speaker 1: But like nineteen But I mean, I think a marriage

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00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: to me is you know what we're doing. We're working

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Speaker 1: on our marriage. It's it's a couple of years in.

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00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: It's we're like we're actively working. So that's why, like

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00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: I sometimes forget, you know, but yes, it's insane how

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00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: high rate. And I hate saying that because I mean,

1059
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: you're getting divorced. But it's like you tried too, though

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: I tried. We went to couples therapy and we are

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00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: just completely different people at different stages of awareness. But

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Speaker 1: but here's my thing, though we're gonna You're gonna be

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00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: on different stages though, like Mike and are, but you

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00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: don't where people don't grow. Yeah, I just continued continued

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00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: and continued to grow and and I try. I used to,

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Speaker 1: believe me a lot of tools in my tool kit,

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Speaker 1: and over the years, I pulled out every tool to

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Speaker 1: try and help facilitate growth. And it just wasn't recepted,

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00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, right, wasn't received right, And that's that's a

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Speaker 1: hard It's like, why would you want to stay in

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00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: the unhappy marriage? Right? Still the answer for some people

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00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: and that's okay. Well, yeah, it's just clearly there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people out there not doing the work, that's all.

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Speaker 1: But that with that, there's facts out there. I'm not percentage.

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Speaker 1: I'm really curious to actually know what it is. Someone

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00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: should Google. Look, I have my computer from one in

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Speaker 1: here in studio Google Studio. But yeah, I hope, I

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00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: hope Jane's kids are are able to see the positive.

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Speaker 1: And we don't know if they've kept it secret from

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Speaker 1: them or whatever. But regardless of whether the teenagers know

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00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: about or not, they're seeing their parents work on their marriage.

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Speaker 1: They don't have to know that it's through infidelity. I

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Speaker 1: have a question for you though, I mean, obviously for us,

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Speaker 1: it's on Google. So when Julie has Google, she can

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00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: like google it. Yeah, that's gonna be a tough day.

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Speaker 1: But I but and if it wasn't on Google, I

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01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: would want to tell her that when she's old enough

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01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: to understand, like if something was going on in her relationship,

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Speaker 1: like I would want her to understand like our dynamic

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01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: to show like that we fought for it and you know,

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Speaker 1: yes and no, and let me just say, let me

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01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: tell her the specifics would. It would all depend if

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Speaker 1: she was going through or son was going through a

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01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: tough situation with infidelity in relationship or something like that,

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Speaker 1: and the timing is right and they're of age to

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01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: really understand. I would be right there in line with

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01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: you to tell them together, Like when your parents were

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01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: talking about some stuff. It's like to me, I'm like,

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01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: that's some like that gives me encouragement to know that

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Speaker 1: they're like still married this long and they had like

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01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: a big issue, you know. But as the person who

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Speaker 1: done that, if you just wanted to tell Jolie or

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01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: tell not a spite, but just like the first issue

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Speaker 1: that she comes up with her first boyfriend and she's

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Speaker 1: fifteen and impressionable, and you say that you know, daddy

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Speaker 1: cheated on me, so it's okay, like you can get

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Speaker 1: stronger from this, And she's like, wait what because her

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01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: image of me is not that person, because you know

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01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: from the time you know now the only person, the

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Speaker 1: only dash who knows is the president carrying, affectionate, loving

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Speaker 1: father that I am now not the distant you know,

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Speaker 1: a piece of crap. So for me, I wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: that image tarnished unless it was something that she could

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Speaker 1: actually learn from. So what happens when she does google it?

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Speaker 1: I mean, granted we're still together, you know, because if

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Speaker 1: we're a divorce and it's like, well, obviously like she's

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Speaker 1: going to know, like there's issues together opimist Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like, you know, but if we're

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Speaker 1: when we're still together down the road and she does

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Speaker 1: like what happens, and that's fine, that's fine. She discovers

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Speaker 1: it and she wants to come. She might google it

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01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: at four I mean, god, kids are online now, and

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Speaker 1: she might and she probably will. That's probably how it's

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Speaker 1: going to happen. And that's fine. If she googles that.

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Speaker 1: Then we sit down and we had the discussion about

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01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: what happened to an extent, about how we fought through it.

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01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: You know, all the work that we put in. This

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Speaker 1: is the kind of work that relationships take. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: because we love you, Julian, we love your brother, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're going to do everything we possibly could to make

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Speaker 1: this work. And look at us we have. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: it's just coming from us an unsolicited manner when it's

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Speaker 1: not something relevant to a lesson she needs to learn.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think is the way to do it. Yeah, okay, John,

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Speaker 1: what'd you find? Good? God, this is the most comprehensive

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Speaker 1: study it even with like um the occupations that people

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01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: have that are most likely to get divorced. But I

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Speaker 1: was reading this in every thirteen seconds, there is a

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Speaker 1: divorce in America every thirteen seconds. Yes, that equates to

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Speaker 1: seventies seven divorces per hour, six thousand, six hundred and

1141
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: forty six divorces per day, forty six thousand, five hundred

1142
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: and twenty three divorces per week, and two million, four

1143
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: hundred nineteen thousand, one hundred ninety six divorces per year.

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Speaker 1: Rest there are nine divorces in the time it takes

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01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: for one couple to recite their wedding vows, which is

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01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: two minutes. People, nine divorces every two minutes. There's been

1147
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Speaker 1: three divorces since you started talking about this. Wow. Yeah,

1148
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: we need to divorce lawyers. Yeah right, yeah right, you're

1149
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: very aggressive. They are very aggressive. Are you kidding me?

1150
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: Every woman would hire Janna as Harry divorce lawyer and

1151
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: get them by the ball's second career hurts. That's I mean,

1152
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: that's sad. But but marriages are down to he says,

1153
01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: are they people are getting married like they used to?

1154
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: And I think that's okay. I always say I am

1155
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: Goldie hawnting it the rest of my life. See, I

1156
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: disagree with that they do. But I for some reason, like, Okay, Amy,

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01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: can we get Goldie hana on please? I want to

1158
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: ask her because I think for some people, yeah, it

1159
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: might work, but for me personally, it's I I do

1160
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: believe in the marriage. I do believe in that. What's

1161
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: that called like the foundation the sacrament of marriage? And

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01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: I think that's for me that's I just I couldn't

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01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: do that. I couldn't. I couldn't just be have a

1164
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: partner for the you know, if Michael and I were

1165
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: to get divorced, yeah, I mean I would want to

1166
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: get married again. Like even in my head, I'm like, no,

1167
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: I just I would just whatever. But for for what

1168
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: I want my kids to see and I don't know.

1169
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: I just believe in it. I believe in the spiritual union,

1170
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: whatever that may be in the future. I would love

1171
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: to have some incredible shaman do perform some incredible ceremony.

1172
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: But I don't feel like I need to go down

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01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: to the courthouse and get a piece of paper that's

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01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: stamped and gives me five days to get married. Yeah,

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01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just old school with that. Where are

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: you out of mike? Um, we have therapy, couple of

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01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: therapy and seven minutes okay, and then not answering that question. No, Yes,

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01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm old school. And my parents have been married

1179
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: for gosh, thirty probably close to thirty five years, um,

1180
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 1: And they've been the only ones that have either been

1181
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: married or remain married on both sides of my family,

1182
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: the only ones. And they are each one of four children,

1183
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: the only ones out of both sides of my family.

1184
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: So they have been the foundation for that, and they

1185
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: have been through their their crap, and so they have

1186
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: been a role model in a relationship since of that,

1187
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: and I strongly believe marriage because of them. And according

1188
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: to the study, your fourteen percent less likely to get

1189
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: divorced because of my parents, because of your parents. But

1190
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: then but then, like, okay, so I hear that. But

1191
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: then like, but then why didn't you like like why

1192
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: didn't you love our marriage? More? Like it depends on

1193
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: everyone still has issues, Like if you idle, I know,

1194
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: but I just for me, I'm like, if you idolize

1195
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: our marriage so much a lot more now in the

1196
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 1: place that I'm not right, I have a greater appreciation

1197
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: with what we're going through, with what they have because

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01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: we're in the trenches doing work, and I know my

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01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 1: parents were in the trenches doing work for a long

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01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: long time. So I see what we can have. And

1201
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: they're probably more in love now than they ever were. Right,

1202
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: and you too will are in will continue. But but

1203
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: I will say I do sig with Genda's sense of

1204
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: if that makes two people happy, well, of course, do

1205
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 1: whatever makes you happy. I'm just saying my personal opinion

1206
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: is I believe in marriage. My only fear with the

1207
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: Goldie Haunting it is someone um is one of the

1208
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 1: partners in that relationship or not. Maybe they're not being

1209
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: completely honest in genuine like maybe they do really want

1210
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: to get married, but their partner is so set on

1211
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: Goldie haunt in it that is the thing, um that

1212
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: they just conformed to that. So that's my only fear.

1213
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: Every both both parties would have to feel the same way,

1214
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: would have to feel safe, and there's not resentment under right. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So this has been an awesome show and I want

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Speaker 1: to thank Michael jen easton UM a huge thank you

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Speaker 1: for the record, Thank you Bristal Farms, because this whole

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Speaker 1: show I did with like cookie my teeth and I've

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Speaker 1: been like trying to pick it with my tongue the

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Speaker 1: whole time on my phone, like how many talcolate chips have? Myth?

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Speaker 1: But thank you having killing them? All right, baby, you

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Speaker 1: ready go to a couple of therapy. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Good buck, thanks bye? Would you ready go to it?