1
00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,400
Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight. From Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

2
00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:09,400
Speaker 2: I came a brief respite from the side games for

3
00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,319
Speaker 2: a moment, a diversion. If you will, you put your

4
00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,639
Speaker 2: wilderness survival skills. I mean you've done that as training.

5
00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,040
Speaker 2: You put them to the test on a TV show

6
00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,240
Speaker 2: and many of our listeners have probably seen way more

7
00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,520
Speaker 2: of you than they expected to see. The show is

8
00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,160
Speaker 2: called Naked and Afraid. Tell us about that experience.

9
00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done several survival shows, but yeah, Naked and

10
00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,560
Speaker 3: Afraid was actually a really profound experience for me. It

11
00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,120
Speaker 3: started off as a joke between buddies. I was I

12
00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,400
Speaker 3: would meet a Special Forces friend of mine at Barnes

13
00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,200
Speaker 3: and Noble to drink coffee and we would chat about

14
00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,280
Speaker 3: world events. You know, I'm a sy OP guy, he's

15
00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,320
Speaker 3: a SF guy, and so we just talk about all

16
00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,120
Speaker 3: the different things. And one day he had asked me

17
00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,360
Speaker 3: because he knew I was helping out at a survival school,

18
00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,959
Speaker 3: and he said, hey, you ever think about doing or

19
00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,800
Speaker 3: have you ever heard a show Naked and Frain And

20
00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,280
Speaker 3: I was like no, and he was like, you know,

21
00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,960
Speaker 3: it would be cool if you know more people of

22
00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,880
Speaker 3: color did things outdoors into what's like that? And I said, oh, okay,

23
00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,840
Speaker 3: I see where we're going with this, you know. So

24
00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,120
Speaker 3: it's just the way he and I joked, and you

25
00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,720
Speaker 3: know it was. It was on you know, two Alpha males.

26
00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,800
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I gotta go. I gotta go,

27
00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,559
Speaker 3: like apply now or see what this thing is all about.

28
00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:33,199
Speaker 4: So I did.

29
00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,520
Speaker 3: I figured I'd fell out an application just to show

30
00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,120
Speaker 3: him that I tried, and nothing happened. And sure enough,

31
00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,480
Speaker 3: these guys called me about two months later and said

32
00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,960
Speaker 3: we want you on the show. And I was like,

33
00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:48,000
Speaker 3: oh no, I gotta do it now. So so basically

34
00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,400
Speaker 3: that's how it happened. Oddly enough, though, I would end

35
00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,360
Speaker 3: up in India in the Himalaya Mountains and it.

36
00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:56,400
Speaker 4: Was freezing cold.

37
00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,320
Speaker 3: It was like thirty two or thirty three degrees at

38
00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,560
Speaker 3: night and about sixties just under sixty five degrees during

39
00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,320
Speaker 3: the day. And of course we're nanked and we're out

40
00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,080
Speaker 3: there with no clothing, no food, no water, no shelter.

41
00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,480
Speaker 3: We just got to figure it out. And the story

42
00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,320
Speaker 3: is the producer said. The story comes from the story

43
00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,800
Speaker 3: of Adam and Eve, one man, one woman out in

44
00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,359
Speaker 3: the middle of nowhere. How did they survive? And so

45
00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,560
Speaker 3: that's what gave them the idea for you know, the show.

46
00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,720
Speaker 3: And so I'm out there and I had this very

47
00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,800
Speaker 3: I had been dealing with PTSD without my awareness. I

48
00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,360
Speaker 3: didn't have a clear awareness that I had PTSD because

49
00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,200
Speaker 3: you know, of course you get out we're you know,

50
00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,040
Speaker 3: we're very mission oriented, and.

51
00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,160
Speaker 4: I'm the sign up guy.

52
00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,720
Speaker 3: Of course I understand psychology in my mind, you know,

53
00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,480
Speaker 3: like that's not going to happen to me, you know.

54
00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,760
Speaker 3: And now I'm in the middle of this of nowhere

55
00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,079
Speaker 3: in India, on the side of the Himalaya Mountains, and

56
00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,560
Speaker 3: I'm I have no distractions, I have nothing to keep

57
00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,000
Speaker 3: my mind off of the truth of the things that

58
00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,080
Speaker 3: I had gone through when I was overseas and I

59
00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,760
Speaker 3: saw people go through and nothing to hide me from that.

60
00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,720
Speaker 3: So it all came out and it was a profound

61
00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,880
Speaker 3: awakening for me while I was there, and I came

62
00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,600
Speaker 3: back and that's when I started my nonprofit to start,

63
00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,760
Speaker 3: you know, giving and providing wilderness, you know, excursions for

64
00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,880
Speaker 3: people and immersions to help them deal with PTSD and

65
00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,640
Speaker 3: emotional struggles that many people have.

66
00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,920
Speaker 2: Wow, Himalaya is thirty two degrees. You know, unlike Adam

67
00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,320
Speaker 2: and Eve, there's no fruit trees, there's no garden in him.

68
00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,000
Speaker 2: How did you do? Did you Okay?

69
00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

70
00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, we lasted to the end.

71
00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,360
Speaker 3: Man. I ate snails and worms and I dug hole

72
00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,080
Speaker 3: in the ground and that became my seat for well

73
00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,320
Speaker 3: and I drank out of ad and you know, and

74
00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,960
Speaker 3: that was that was my life for three weeks. I

75
00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,440
Speaker 3: lost forty pounds. It was it was wild, It was

76
00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,039
Speaker 3: absolutely wild. And then I went and did it again,

77
00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,360
Speaker 3: different on the second time, and then I did you know,

78
00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,599
Speaker 3: six or seven other different shows after that.

79
00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,760
Speaker 2: So, uh, with remote viewing would have been a skill

80
00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,520
Speaker 2: that would be useful and something like.

81
00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,040
Speaker 3: That, I think again, yes, with the intuition, like where

82
00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,960
Speaker 3: do you go for safety?

83
00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,719
Speaker 4: Shelter? Food, where can I find water?

84
00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,279
Speaker 3: You know? All these type of things were things that

85
00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,479
Speaker 3: my teacher told me.

86
00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,440
Speaker 4: My nijitsu teacher told me were parts.

87
00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:54,880
Speaker 3: Of these these these ancient or traditional cultures where they

88
00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,400
Speaker 3: just knew because I remember asking him. I was like

89
00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,120
Speaker 3: in one of his books books, he writes that he,

90
00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,160
Speaker 3: as an American, went into Japan and he was training

91
00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,200
Speaker 3: with these guys and they were running really late at

92
00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,640
Speaker 3: night and you know, they had stopped unbeknownst to him,

93
00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,720
Speaker 3: and he continued running and he ended up in this

94
00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,320
Speaker 3: in this waterway and he's sloshing around and they tell

95
00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,720
Speaker 3: him to be quiet, and he's like, well, I didn't

96
00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,280
Speaker 3: know the water was here because I can't see. It's

97
00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,440
Speaker 3: pitch black out here. And they said, oh, no, you

98
00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,480
Speaker 3: don't see it, you smell it. And I was like, well,

99
00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,000
Speaker 3: people actually smell water, da da dah, you know they can.

100
00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,480
Speaker 3: And he was like, well, that's this is where these

101
00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,080
Speaker 3: people lived. They had this heightened sense that we would

102
00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,920
Speaker 3: all have if we all had to rely on these

103
00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,839
Speaker 3: senses to find water and food. And that happened to

104
00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,320
Speaker 3: me on day seven of my journey. I was hearing

105
00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,279
Speaker 3: things while I was out on the inking and afraid.

106
00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,160
Speaker 3: I was hearing things, and I was like, what is happening?

107
00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,240
Speaker 3: Am I going crazy? And I happened to look down

108
00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,400
Speaker 3: and I saw this little beetle and it's movements and

109
00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,560
Speaker 3: what I was hearing were in tandem. They were together,

110
00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,160
Speaker 3: they were unified, they were synced up. And I was like,

111
00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,600
Speaker 3: I think I'm hearing that beetle moving right now, and

112
00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,479
Speaker 3: that's wild, you know. And I didn't say much to

113
00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,320
Speaker 3: anybody while I was there, because I didn't want to

114
00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,640
Speaker 3: be like I was crazy.

115
00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,760
Speaker 4: But that continued on.

116
00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,159
Speaker 3: You know, when you lack food, water, and shelter and

117
00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,880
Speaker 3: your body is in pure survival mode, all your senses

118
00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:37,040
Speaker 3: heighten and so I think these things like remote viewing

119
00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,440
Speaker 3: and all of the skills, all of the different capabilities

120
00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,520
Speaker 3: that we have start to, you know, become very valuable

121
00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,440
Speaker 3: when it comes down to our own survival.

122
00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,960
Speaker 2: So back to the Side Games. Where and when did

123
00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,920
Speaker 2: they take place? You've had obviously you've had one. You're

124
00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,280
Speaker 2: talking about bringing back people for a year later. Talk

125
00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,719
Speaker 2: about schedules and how people find out more.

126
00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, So this year actually we're only a week away.

127
00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:10,080
Speaker 3: So this upcoming Friday is SI Games number two in Charlotte,

128
00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,040
Speaker 3: North Carolina. So July thirty first through August second, at

129
00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,240
Speaker 3: the Weston Hotel in Charlotte. We're flying people in from

130
00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,520
Speaker 3: all over the world. It's going to be an amazing event.

131
00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,960
Speaker 3: Last year we did it in in Virginia, but this

132
00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,600
Speaker 3: year we're doing it in North Carolina. You know, to

133
00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:33,440
Speaker 3: pay homage to the Ryan Institute in JB. Rhyan, who

134
00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,160
Speaker 3: is a researcher at Duke university who did who was

135
00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,400
Speaker 3: really instrumental in bringing parapsychology and you know into the world.

136
00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,200
Speaker 3: And so that's why I wanted to definitely do it here.

137
00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,880
Speaker 3: And I live in North Carolina, so you know, I'm

138
00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,520
Speaker 3: just outside of Fort Bragg, so me being here is

139
00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,120
Speaker 3: also why I wanted to do it in North Carolina.

140
00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,000
Speaker 2: So we'll people from the first one come back to

141
00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:02,520
Speaker 2: this event.

142
00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have we have we call them perceptualists,

143
00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,200
Speaker 3: So we have perceptualists from the first event coming back

144
00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,240
Speaker 3: to compete in this one. Some of them are like

145
00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,640
Speaker 3: defending their title, right, it's not really defense. We just

146
00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,840
Speaker 3: have a lot of fun, but you know they are.

147
00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,960
Speaker 3: It's going to be a good time. And we have

148
00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,840
Speaker 3: five disciplines that everyone you know that people have to

149
00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,360
Speaker 3: do so remote viewings only want of the disciplines we

150
00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:32,600
Speaker 3: have remote viewing, we have dowsing, precognition, mindsight the ability

151
00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,840
Speaker 3: to see without your eyes, and psychokinesis the ability to

152
00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,559
Speaker 3: influence and move things with your mind. And so people

153
00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,360
Speaker 3: could be competing in all of those categories and we

154
00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,880
Speaker 3: have eight people competing in each category. So it's going

155
00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,960
Speaker 3: to be fantastic. And we have judges and commentators and

156
00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,079
Speaker 3: a host and a master of games, and I mean

157
00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,880
Speaker 3: it's wild, it's like a full on thing.

158
00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,800
Speaker 2: You know, maybe there should be a TV show, you

159
00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,600
Speaker 2: should talk to those naked and afraid people.

160
00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,120
Speaker 4: It's man, I am waiting.

161
00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:11,920
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for a network to decide, yes, we should

162
00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,880
Speaker 3: do that, and because I think it would make for

163
00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,160
Speaker 3: a great show. But then also for me personally, it's

164
00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,599
Speaker 3: about the inspiration.

165
00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:20,600
Speaker 1: Of it all.

166
00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,200
Speaker 3: And you know, one of the things I'm really happy

167
00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,240
Speaker 3: about with the Side Games this year is that we

168
00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,439
Speaker 3: you know, we we make space for youth, for kids,

169
00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,400
Speaker 3: because I think, you know, they're the future. And I

170
00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,360
Speaker 3: hear a lot of people talk about kids being in

171
00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,880
Speaker 3: the future or what we're going to do with the future.

172
00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,080
Speaker 3: But then when you look around, many of the folks

173
00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,360
Speaker 3: are like me, they're fifty or above, and they're not,

174
00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,640
Speaker 3: you know, twenty and below. And so then it's like, well,

175
00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,920
Speaker 3: if we're talking about the future, why don't we provide

176
00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,320
Speaker 3: a safe space for the future to come and explore.

177
00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,480
Speaker 3: And that's what we're doing. At the Side We have

178
00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,720
Speaker 3: the first kids panel. We have a thirteen year old

179
00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,839
Speaker 3: who will be on that panel, a nine year old

180
00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,960
Speaker 3: and a ten and a twelve year old, and they'll

181
00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,000
Speaker 3: all be talking about SI experiences from their perspective and

182
00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,080
Speaker 3: what they would like to see. And I think those

183
00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,160
Speaker 3: type of things are the things that we really need

184
00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,160
Speaker 3: to do if we want to see the world change

185
00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,280
Speaker 3: and really embrace what we understand about consciousness.

186
00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,600
Speaker 4: Because and to take that even a.

187
00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,000
Speaker 3: Step further, if we do have friends out there in

188
00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:34,400
Speaker 3: the UAP world who are flying around who have these capabilities,

189
00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,720
Speaker 3: they're probably waiting for us to, you know, see our

190
00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,360
Speaker 3: greater potentials be realized.

191
00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,640
Speaker 2: And graduate from high school, so we could talk to.

192
00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,880
Speaker 3: These basically, and we haven't really been doing that. You know.

193
00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,000
Speaker 3: It's been small pockets of us doing it behind closed

194
00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,640
Speaker 3: doors or at smaller or organizations here and there. But

195
00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,000
Speaker 3: this needs to be on a world scale, and that's

196
00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,240
Speaker 3: where the Side Games is headed. We want to be

197
00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,720
Speaker 3: the Psychic Olympics. We want to be all over the world.

198
00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,600
Speaker 3: Next year we're doing it in the US and in

199
00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,679
Speaker 3: the UK, and the following year we're looking at either

200
00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,280
Speaker 3: doing it in Mexico or Australia as at their location.

201
00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:22,520
Speaker 3: So we're already growing to new places, to different countries.

202
00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,520
Speaker 3: And that's the that's what we want to do.

203
00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,280
Speaker 2: The idea of starting with kids, you know, start the training,

204
00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:33,640
Speaker 2: the protocols, teaching to young people. I wonder if if

205
00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,120
Speaker 2: you spend your life, you start at an early age

206
00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,160
Speaker 2: and spend your life developing the skills that you become

207
00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,920
Speaker 2: super remote viewer by the time you're an adult. You know,

208
00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,680
Speaker 2: it's something that gets better with practice and age. I

209
00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,200
Speaker 2: imagine that's that's part of it.

210
00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you went a prize for that one,

211
00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,760
Speaker 3: because that's what that's the truth, that's the reality of it.

212
00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:54,960
Speaker 1: You know.

213
00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,280
Speaker 3: I've been saying that, like, what what would a world

214
00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,320
Speaker 3: be like if we had young folks who weren't aren't

215
00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,800
Speaker 3: told that they were crazy or made to feel bad

216
00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,439
Speaker 3: or shut down when they said they had an experience,

217
00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,640
Speaker 3: but they were embraced and they were mentored and guided

218
00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:16,880
Speaker 3: in an ethical way towards that greater potential. We'd probably

219
00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,040
Speaker 3: be looking at a more empathic society. One of the

220
00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,040
Speaker 3: things I see when I teach kids at my martial

221
00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,840
Speaker 3: arts school Psychokinesis, is once they realize that it's no

222
00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,760
Speaker 3: longer lip service to you are connected to everything. It's

223
00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,040
Speaker 3: not just an abstract idea. When they sit down and

224
00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,080
Speaker 3: they actually make something move with their mind. It speaks

225
00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,040
Speaker 3: very loudly to their inner spirit that you are connected

226
00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,720
Speaker 3: to that thing. Is the only way that you could

227
00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,040
Speaker 3: you could influence its movement is that you have to

228
00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,800
Speaker 3: be connected to it in some way that isn't you

229
00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,360
Speaker 3: just touching it. And that really strikes a person differently.

230
00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:02,000
Speaker 3: It forms their mind differently because now when you say

231
00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,600
Speaker 3: things like, hey man, what I'm doing to this person,

232
00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,199
Speaker 3: I'm actually doing to me, or when I hurt the world,

233
00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,880
Speaker 3: I'm hurting myself, that makes a lot more sense when

234
00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,920
Speaker 3: you when you had when you've had this training or

235
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,480
Speaker 3: had that experience. So I see it as a way

236
00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,079
Speaker 3: to make the world a better place by allowing us

237
00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,720
Speaker 3: to recognize how futile it is to think that we're.

238
00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,959
Speaker 4: Just these in these meat suits.

239
00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,720
Speaker 3: That are separate from one another, and we're just walking

240
00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,439
Speaker 3: around hurting each other, you know, just because it's all

241
00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,120
Speaker 3: about me, when in reality, it's really we And when

242
00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,680
Speaker 3: I do hurt someone else that that does come back

243
00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,280
Speaker 3: on me, and so it's best for me to not

244
00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,160
Speaker 3: do that, you know, And this is coming from you know,

245
00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,520
Speaker 3: I'm a warrior, I'm a protector, so you know, but

246
00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:52,080
Speaker 3: I truly believe that. You know, I'd rather be a

247
00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,680
Speaker 3: warrior and a gardener than in a garden than a

248
00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,560
Speaker 3: gardener in the war So I have those skills, but

249
00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,400
Speaker 3: ultimately I would love to just plant and see the

250
00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,920
Speaker 3: flowers grow, you know, I don't want to have to

251
00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,840
Speaker 3: use my warrior skill sets.

252
00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:11,160
Speaker 2: So of the of the five categories that you mentioned

253
00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,559
Speaker 2: at the side games, which one would be your best?

254
00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,880
Speaker 3: So I think the thing that I'm the best at

255
00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:23,200
Speaker 3: is psychokinesis. I thought it and and and and that's

256
00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,960
Speaker 3: because I have this uncanny ability to manifest what it

257
00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,920
Speaker 3: is that I intend to do in the world. And

258
00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,040
Speaker 3: now I've seen that in the psychokinesis realm is my

259
00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,880
Speaker 3: ability to move objects with my mind without touching them,

260
00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,040
Speaker 3: without using my hands, And that's that's really great.

261
00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:42,560
Speaker 4: Now.

262
00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,760
Speaker 3: I love remote viewing and I love mind sight. Those

263
00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,640
Speaker 3: are two that I really enjoy as well.

264
00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:49,800
Speaker 4: But the one that.

265
00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,760
Speaker 3: I'm able to do and I really really I enjoy

266
00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,480
Speaker 3: even more so than that those things, is psychokinesis. It's

267
00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,640
Speaker 3: just something really magical about intent for something an object

268
00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,720
Speaker 3: to move, and then seeing it move, you know, it's

269
00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,440
Speaker 3: just something wild about that for me and it's it's

270
00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,640
Speaker 3: very it's very powerful, and it changes. It changes people's

271
00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,680
Speaker 3: hearts and minds when they see it as well. I

272
00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,440
Speaker 3: think all the modalities do. As a matter of fact,

273
00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,480
Speaker 3: That's why I chose the five because as I was

274
00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,360
Speaker 3: going through my own journey, what I found was that

275
00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,560
Speaker 3: if you had one, the other ones tend to manifest.

276
00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:33,040
Speaker 3: So if you're psych if you have really quality psychokinesis skills,

277
00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,480
Speaker 3: then when I start teaching your remote viewing or mind sight,

278
00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,560
Speaker 3: they tend they tend to manifest very easy. And so

279
00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,800
Speaker 3: because you're already kind of have the foundation laid. And

280
00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,280
Speaker 3: so that's why I have those five modalities.

281
00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,720
Speaker 2: You're going to have to come out to Las Vegas.

282
00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,720
Speaker 2: We'll see if PK works on slot machines. I'm kidding

283
00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,520
Speaker 2: sort of, but entirely.

284
00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:54,760
Speaker 1: I think.

285
00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,760
Speaker 3: There's a guy named Joe Gallenberger. He made it. He

286
00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,320
Speaker 3: wrote a book called Liquid Luck, and now that's what

287
00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:07,720
Speaker 3: he did. He actually would organize these trips to Las

288
00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,800
Speaker 3: Vegas and they would win a bunch of money, and

289
00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,560
Speaker 3: they actually would have like certain deals with the casinos

290
00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,520
Speaker 3: like hey, we're not trying to steal our.

291
00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,600
Speaker 4: Your money or anything.

292
00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,280
Speaker 3: We'll pay at the bar, do whatever we have to

293
00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,760
Speaker 3: do in order to make this right so that you

294
00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,800
Speaker 3: guys don't feel slighted. And he would bring these groups

295
00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,640
Speaker 3: out there and they would play, and they would use

296
00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,720
Speaker 3: these techniques to actually influence their gaming.

297
00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,000
Speaker 2: I know that Hell put off it told me about

298
00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,480
Speaker 2: an experiment they did, I think in the silver market

299
00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,720
Speaker 2: that proved it could work. But he also said there

300
00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,280
Speaker 2: was sort of an unwritten rule, maybe from Ingo, that

301
00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,960
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be using these abilities for something like that

302
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,800
Speaker 2: to rig a lottery game or to predict a stock

303
00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,119
Speaker 2: price or something like that. Is that true?

304
00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely concur with that, and I do think

305
00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,960
Speaker 3: it was Ingo. I'm not one hundred percent sure, but

306
00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,960
Speaker 3: I remember when I tried to track down that you

307
00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,560
Speaker 3: know where who said that. I think it did come

308
00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,600
Speaker 3: back to Ango as well, and that's that, you know.

309
00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,960
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you said that this is the key

310
00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,720
Speaker 3: that we need to also be careful and mindful of.

311
00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,480
Speaker 3: If we're also if we're talking about a world where

312
00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,920
Speaker 3: everybody has psychic abilities and that they're actually able to

313
00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,720
Speaker 3: perform them, then we also need to be having a

314
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,120
Speaker 3: strong conversation about what are the ethical implications of that

315
00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,040
Speaker 3: you know, there's a there's a whole bunch of people

316
00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,560
Speaker 3: on YouTube right now who use their remote viewing to

317
00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,760
Speaker 3: remote view like celebrities and all these you know, alien

318
00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,320
Speaker 3: bases and all this stuff, right, And the downside to

319
00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,639
Speaker 3: that is that they are giving permission to their followers

320
00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,920
Speaker 3: to just remote view anyone at anywhere, at any time,

321
00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,320
Speaker 3: which isn't fair.

322
00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,359
Speaker 4: It invades people's sovereignty.

323
00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:57,399
Speaker 3: It's it's not a good use of agency. And if

324
00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,320
Speaker 3: you know me, coming from the background that I come from,

325
00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,600
Speaker 3: if I was to ask a person, would they'd like

326
00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,640
Speaker 3: me to set up cameras in their house and look

327
00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,760
Speaker 3: at them without their permission, they would say no.

328
00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,320
Speaker 4: But yet they feel like it's okay if they do

329
00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:10,240
Speaker 4: it in remote viewing.

330
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,439
Speaker 3: That is not okay, and it's something that really a

331
00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:14,840
Speaker 3: good discussion we need to have.

332
00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,040
Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at

333
00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,679
Speaker 1: oneam Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot com

334
00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:23,120
Speaker 1: for more