Speaker 1: There we go. We're getting better.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there playing with buttons and then I pop up,
Speaker 1: I'm great, How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm great, Thanks for doing this. I'm excited to meet you.
Speaker 1: Nice to meet you too.
Speaker 2: We are, I believe of the same generation. I came
Speaker 2: up watching your comedy, so I was super excited when
Speaker 2: you agreed to come on.
Speaker 1: All right, good good?
Speaker 2: Does anyone call you Scott? What do your friends call you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, my my grandmother still called me carrat Top.
Speaker 1: It was odd, but yes, mostly my friends. She say
Speaker 1: this is my grandson, Cara Top, and I'd say it's
Speaker 1: it's Scott's grandma. Never she never, she never got past that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, most most people friendly people. I know I'm
Speaker 1: with Scott.
Speaker 2: Yes, they do.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it used to be, you know, being in
Speaker 1: the before the internet was I would say Scott on
Speaker 1: the streak. You'd be like, oh, they must know me,
Speaker 1: they must be friends. And now it's like, oh they
Speaker 1: looked yuh kind of things.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so funny. Right, Okay, So do you like
Speaker 2: that the name carrat Tops stuck or is it like
Speaker 2: has it been a blessing?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like a blessing and a curse. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I could have had Queen Latifa, but I missed
Speaker 1: that opportunity, so I yeah, I know. I mean it's
Speaker 1: been my blessing. It works fine for me. I feel
Speaker 1: kind of you know, I've had it so long now
Speaker 1: the monikers, so I don't quite think anything different, Like
Speaker 1: if I had a choice to do it better, cooler
Speaker 1: one would I. I don't know. But the carrot top's good.
Speaker 1: Everybody brings me, you know, everyone with carrots, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, just having Easter like dinner. I had to
Speaker 1: bring a carrot cake and I said, I get it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is your holiday. You just passed
Speaker 2: your big holiday.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I didn't even think of that. Okay, wow,
Speaker 2: I didn't either.
Speaker 1: So they brought the cake and I said, oh, another
Speaker 1: caro cake? Thank you? Said like it's funny, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it's not that original. That's funny. Well, first
Speaker 2: of all, where do you live? You live in Vegas
Speaker 2: or you just go there for your I work.
Speaker 1: In Vegas and I have a house in Florida, so
Speaker 1: I go back and forth. But I'm mostly of my
Speaker 1: time is spent in Vegas because I work, you know,
Speaker 1: six nights a week, so most of the time is
Speaker 1: spent here in Vegas. But then on my holidays I
Speaker 1: go to Florida.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I just I was talking to Flavor,
Speaker 2: Flavor of all people who lives in Vegas, and I
Speaker 2: was thinking, now, do you see a lot of people
Speaker 2: you know in Vegas? Is it like a different version
Speaker 2: of la where you're just seeing like famous people.
Speaker 1: I know Flavor real well, he's always had the show,
Speaker 1: he comes out, he hangs out. I always see him around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we kind of you know, there's a little camaraderie among
Speaker 1: Vegas people. You know, I gotta get a bite to
Speaker 1: eat with Chris Angel or David Coppfield or whatnot.
Speaker 2: But there is a whole world though, there's like a
Speaker 2: like a like a subculture there of just like all
Speaker 2: these like a.
Speaker 1: Little bit of culture here. I mean not not not
Speaker 1: tremendous amounts, but you know, the Vegas community is cool
Speaker 1: and when everyone knows each other. It's a small town,
Speaker 1: especially all the entertainers, you know, we all know each other.
Speaker 1: So it's just fun.
Speaker 2: And you've been doing this for seventeen years in Vegas,
Speaker 2: this gig, like, how have you thought of stopping? Does it?
Speaker 2: Does it? Does it keep evolving? Like what's that experience?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the evolution is really the key to the whole show.
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's been that's only eighteen at the Luxe.
Speaker 1: Or prior to that, there was teneth the Mgum Grand
Speaker 1: and Wanted Ballet, so almost thirty almost thirty years in Vegas.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the show is definitely it's more fit. Seems
Speaker 1: to be more fun now for me than everyone was prior,
Speaker 1: just because they you know, I asked George Carnand this
Speaker 1: one time, I said, you know, what's it like to
Speaker 1: you know, finally get it, you know, to get it?
Speaker 1: And he said get what I said? You know, you know,
Speaker 1: you got your job, you got what you're doing. You
Speaker 1: get up there now it's more fun And he said,
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing. I'm always working. And I that
Speaker 1: was a question I asked in like twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: and I he's right, I mean I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I got the stage thing down more. But
Speaker 1: the idea of keeping the show fresh and keeping it
Speaker 1: going for all these years, more and more you got
Speaker 1: to evolve and make you know, new jokes, new contents.
Speaker 1: Always in reinventing yourself in the show, and I do
Speaker 1: it nightly.
Speaker 2: Like challenging yourself, you have to feel a little bit
Speaker 2: of pain and like be a little free.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I change it almost every night. Almost
Speaker 1: every night there's one even if it's one joke or
Speaker 1: one reference or one you know, when I'm talking about
Speaker 1: Tyson getting in the ring, when anything topical, it immediately
Speaker 1: goes into the show.
Speaker 2: Interesting because you could coast because it's not the same people.
Speaker 2: But as an artist, I want to like challenge yourself
Speaker 2: and just like do it differently. I've always found that interesting.
Speaker 2: I did stand up comedy one night in New York
Speaker 2: City at the New York Comedy Club, and I've always
Speaker 2: found it interesting that a comedian will go, you know,
Speaker 2: downstairs at the comedy seller and do with the act
Speaker 2: and then go upstairs next door, and it sought sort
Speaker 2: of sounds like the same act. And I've always wondered
Speaker 2: if anybody feels, I don't know, not like like a
Speaker 2: fraudulents about it. For example, you'll hear like Amy Schumer's
Speaker 2: on the Tonight Show and she's saying something and you
Speaker 2: but you just happen to have seen her show and
Speaker 2: it sounds like it's new when she's saying it to him,
Speaker 2: like it's something she just thought of, right, But so like,
Speaker 2: does anyone feel like Emperor has no close ish about
Speaker 2: that experience, because for me, I would feel weird. I
Speaker 2: feel weird when someone I'm sitting with hear me tell
Speaker 2: the same story to two people and it's not even
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and that comes. That does happen with comedy
Speaker 1: a lot. And that's why I think the process of
Speaker 1: them writing and keeping the show current fresh is one.
Speaker 1: That's one way to do it. And secondly, when I
Speaker 1: do shows like The Tonight Show and whatever shows now exist,
Speaker 1: you know, when I would do them, I couldn't do
Speaker 1: repeat stuff that I had already done in the show prior.
Speaker 1: So that was always a challenge too. It's supposed to
Speaker 1: something like me that did a lot of television, so
Speaker 1: I would always have to churn out news stuff because
Speaker 1: when they called, they said, you know, you want to
Speaker 1: do a set. I can't do the same set. So
Speaker 1: that would force me.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, they want exclusive content, that's a thing they
Speaker 2: asked what they want exclusive on?
Speaker 1: Their particular show. If I had done it on Jay Leno,
Speaker 1: they said, we just saw you do it on Jay.
Speaker 1: We don't want you to sorry, not in Jay. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't it wouldn't matter if you didn't get just their show.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to come back because I do this
Speaker 1: show a lot, so what they want to do. So
Speaker 1: but even my show here, like last night, I had
Speaker 1: a wonderful crowd. I got done and some people folks
Speaker 1: came back and they had seen the show exactly a
Speaker 1: year ago because it was her birthday. And she said,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the show has changed so much, like
Speaker 1: it changed so much, it is so much new. And
Speaker 1: I thought, that's the favorite thing to hear, you know
Speaker 1: from an audience members that want it's good and you
Speaker 1: to be good. But but you know that there is
Speaker 1: a lot of change and that people love that, like,
Speaker 1: well almost the whole show is new, like so they
Speaker 1: can and it's still good.
Speaker 2: It's good then, it's good now it's good different.
Speaker 1: Right, So it wouldn't And she even said it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been like even if you had done the same
Speaker 1: show I'd seen, it would have been funny. But and
Speaker 1: you Shure goes by sofa, I wouldn't have remembered it.
Speaker 1: So there's popped ups and downs of that too. I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of times show would moves fast, so
Speaker 1: they don't have time to remember. I don't even remember
Speaker 1: what beck I've done sometimes.
Speaker 2: Now, question because we're talking about like people who get
Speaker 2: Imposta or Emperor. Do you like think about if you
Speaker 2: think you're funny? Is it more of like a honed craft?
Speaker 2: Like are some people just funny on stage but they're
Speaker 2: not actually funny? Like what determines in your mind who
Speaker 2: you think is funny? Is it different? Is it all
Speaker 2: different styles? Because I know that I was reading that
Speaker 2: like your stereotypical style what people would say of yours
Speaker 2: is that you use props or like Kevin Neilan tells
Speaker 2: one long story or Jerry steinfeldt aggravated. Like, so what
Speaker 2: determines if someone's really funny? Because I've met stand ups
Speaker 2: that don't seem funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what I mean, I know a lot
Speaker 1: of them that aren't. Yeah, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: it definitely comes down to I don't know that I
Speaker 1: have friends in the business that I have been doing
Speaker 1: for a long time, and I'm always dumbfounded. I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily find them phony, but the crowd must, the people
Speaker 1: that book them must. I find things differently funny. And
Speaker 1: you mentioned the styles of comedy, like when my show
Speaker 1: is completely different than any than any of the comic
Speaker 1: so so if you see my showing, and I addressed
Speaker 1: it in the show, I said, people talk about who
Speaker 1: influenced me, and I said this is a good question
Speaker 1: because I have a weird show. And everybody laughed, and
Speaker 1: I said, who do you think influenced me? And I
Speaker 1: and I say certain names. They first I'll say Richard Pryor,
Speaker 1: and then I would say similar, right, and that gets
Speaker 1: a laugh because my show is not similar to Richard
Speaker 1: Pryor's at all. And then I say George carl and
Speaker 1: then they starts. I said that George Carlin was you know,
Speaker 1: if you break down my show, it's like almost exactly
Speaker 1: George Carlin, except because I don't do all props. I
Speaker 1: do a lot of stand up and the stories that
Speaker 1: he would say or it's kind of like how I
Speaker 1: wanted to write when I got into comedy. I wanted
Speaker 1: to be be like George Carlin. He was clever and
Speaker 1: he was observational, and he had these jokes. Now last night, funny,
Speaker 1: you should mention. I came home from work and I
Speaker 1: had my Instagram and I don't know, it's on a
Speaker 1: I didn't follow it. It was on a feed and
Speaker 1: it came up on Stephen Wright. Stephen Wright is another
Speaker 1: one of these guys who when you talk about different
Speaker 1: in styles, you know, some people think, you know, is
Speaker 1: he funny? And that's really I know, and that's really
Speaker 1: his his his stock, but he is so his his
Speaker 1: his delivery style. He said something like that won't give
Speaker 1: it justice, but he said he started by saying, it's
Speaker 1: a wonder a wonderful evening, What a wonderful night for
Speaker 1: an evening, you know, to pause, and he says, I was.
Speaker 1: I was hitchhiking one day and a hurst stopped and
Speaker 1: everyone kind of pauses, and he says, no, thanks pal,
Speaker 1: I'm not going that far. Like it's just brilliant.
Speaker 2: It's like brilliant said, it's subtle and quiet can be subtle.
Speaker 2: And he's my generation too.
Speaker 1: Ran it would work for him him and for his style.
Speaker 1: But if I try, you know, tried doing that and
Speaker 1: epic fail. So you know, I've got a style of speed.
Speaker 1: About my show that like he does. He has a
Speaker 1: style of speed, or as I was called a cadence.
Speaker 1: Everybody has a cadence. Seinfeld Seinfeld has a great cadence.
Speaker 1: And then you know it's and it's how, it's how,
Speaker 1: you know how other comics how they write jokes. I
Speaker 1: have piles of notes here. I write everything from observational
Speaker 1: stuff normally to you know, political you know, I do
Speaker 1: a thing about you know, Trump trying to find advice
Speaker 1: Bretton and I do a whole thing where behind me
Speaker 1: is a big screen and he's flips like faces like
Speaker 1: a like a game show. You know. It was mys
Speaker 1: my renume to find out and he goes that, you know,
Speaker 1: like the game show Do Do Do Do? Do Do
Speaker 1: Do Do? And it pops, it pops up on him.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be him, and I'm like, it's me.
Speaker 1: You know, are we gonna invade? I don't know, Are
Speaker 1: we gonna invade? What are we gonna do? I don't know?
Speaker 1: Should be called g what you call So it's him
Speaker 1: battling him, which he's kind of doing now. It's just
Speaker 1: and battling himself of everything. So it gets a great
Speaker 1: laugh and it's a. It's topical and it's current, and
Speaker 1: it's making fun of Trump and been in a fun
Speaker 1: way that people enjoy it.
Speaker 2: And you brought up TV and like the medium and
Speaker 2: what shows are left, which I like that you said
Speaker 2: that because I don't think that everybody, like people older
Speaker 2: like us, still think TV is TV, and I, for
Speaker 2: I evolved in the last year and a half just
Speaker 2: by accident. And really, once you once you take the
Speaker 2: blur off, you're like, direct to consumer content is the
Speaker 2: only way to do things, like meaning you could have
Speaker 2: an entire I haven people, I have an entire show
Speaker 2: on TikTok, Like not intentionally, but just like I'm eating dumplings,
Speaker 2: I'm putting my makeup on, like it's a tell it's
Speaker 2: the new television. And I just stop thinking, everybody.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, it really is. There's there's not. Really, there's not.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I watch more of tiktoks
Speaker 1: and more of a podcast than I do television period.
Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing I watched is my sports.
Speaker 1: You know, I get home from the show and I
Speaker 1: put on my sports and I go to dinner or
Speaker 1: eat by dinner and go to bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I don't even know. I'm stunned when
Speaker 2: I look at the tele I don't even know where
Speaker 2: to go, what to do what. I'm only on streamers
Speaker 2: and then you're not seeing the news like it's very jarring.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, you know it's interesting.
Speaker 2: It is very interesting because I just think a lot
Speaker 2: of people still are still like somebody was, I'm way
Speaker 2: more financially successful from an entertainment standpoint than when I
Speaker 2: was on television from from social media and someone was
Speaker 2: in Australia at an appearance I was at and they
Speaker 2: were like, oh, what are you gonna get back on TV?
Speaker 2: I'm like, never, I don't want to be in TV,
Speaker 2: like and Mark Cuban said, you know that Bravo I
Speaker 2: think it was. He was like, it's streamers for old people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what he said.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I was like, it's interesting. So the way you're talking now,
Speaker 2: like I'm vibing with what you're saying. Joke wise, it
Speaker 2: doesn't feel propish. Is that something you would pigeonholed into
Speaker 2: and people think that you still are like sitting there
Speaker 2: with a big tricycle on stage or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's still some props that are involved
Speaker 1: in the show. But there's definitely more stand up than
Speaker 1: there than there is props oriented, but there's an energy
Speaker 1: and there's no stylisis, So there's a lot there's a
Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of the big screen like
Speaker 1: I spoke about with the thing, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: that for a punchline as opposed to me holding up
Speaker 1: a prop. Now there's still are a few props, but
Speaker 1: way more like video talking to the video wall, you know,
Speaker 1: punchline to the crowd, video wall me and then and
Speaker 1: then a stand up just a story about you know,
Speaker 1: me looking like Sean White when I go snowboarding or something,
Speaker 1: and it'll be a whole story, you know.
Speaker 2: General wackiness that people might like. That is like the
Speaker 2: new version of props for you.
Speaker 1: Pigeon and I had no problem with people say hey,
Speaker 1: you know your problem the problem cound like, But then
Speaker 1: they see the show and they're like, you know, you're
Speaker 1: not really like a prop comic, You're kind of like
Speaker 1: just a comic. I'm like, yeah, which I had no
Speaker 1: problem being labeled a prop comic because that's how I
Speaker 1: got my start. But you have to evolve and stuff.
Speaker 1: But you know, the show definitely is still carrat top.
Speaker 1: It still has a prop oriented look to it. But
Speaker 1: people do comment on the fact that I talk a
Speaker 1: lot late and said last and I said, last time
Speaker 1: I have SA show, you were like running around. This
Speaker 1: time you did, you were just talking and telling stories.
Speaker 1: I liked it, so I was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2: It's funny that it's a world like my whole life.
Speaker 2: I've been attracted to comedy like SNL and I took
Speaker 2: classes of groundings in Second City, and I'm attracted to
Speaker 2: comedians in the past. I've just always been friendly with comedians.
Speaker 2: I you know, David Spade and Kevin Neil. I just
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. And even though I'm
Speaker 2: not one, I vibe with comedians. It is a world,
Speaker 2: and comedians are typically friends with other comedians. That is
Speaker 2: your friend group, like civilians or or you're both both.
Speaker 1: But I have a lot. I do enjoy the company
Speaker 1: of comics. I mean I do when I go to
Speaker 1: a room and there's full of comics. It's we were
Speaker 1: We had a thing last a couple of nights ago
Speaker 1: at the Tropic Canus closing, and so they had Brad
Speaker 1: Garrett and uh A whole bunch of comics over there,
Speaker 1: and I went over and just kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone just kind of you know, shot the ship and
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the room, which I never played
Speaker 1: that room. I never played the tropic Cannon, but but
Speaker 1: as a comedic clop with a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: you know, stuff that's no longer going to be there,
Speaker 1: and so it was nostalgic and it was so fun
Speaker 1: talking to you know, Brad Garrett can read a phone
Speaker 1: book and make you laugh. He's just a funny guy,
Speaker 1: and it was it was fun. Yeah, I love talking.
Speaker 1: I love comics of the bread and you work off,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're thinking of something and you immediately
Speaker 1: get you work off a bit and within seconds. You know,
Speaker 1: that's the old joke every comic, the ten comics go
Speaker 1: to lunch within the first someone at the tables and say,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use that, you know, because.
Speaker 2: You have to call. Does it breed insecurity and is
Speaker 2: it super competitive?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: I've never felt insecure on comedians some of the same
Speaker 1: profession I feel. I feel enlightened, I feel and I
Speaker 1: love and to be a comic, they all have to
Speaker 1: be smart and they all have to be a certain style,
Speaker 1: and I know you feed off that. It's great. I mean,
Speaker 1: David Spade and I sitting here at lunch would be
Speaker 1: would be phenomenal and we would and I would probably
Speaker 1: come up with ten minutes of material for the show.
Speaker 1: Just been funny and nice guy too, So.
Speaker 2: Totally I agree. He's I love him. He's a He's
Speaker 2: a cool guy and really really right. And is it
Speaker 2: exhausting though, because everyone always has to be on, like
Speaker 2: everything has to be something every second?
Speaker 1: You know a lot of times a lot of comics
Speaker 1: that you know, at the first few minutes of the
Speaker 1: lunch or the whatever that we're getting together is always
Speaker 1: you know, a little sticky probably and then usually it
Speaker 1: turns into for a bit just normal. Yeah. No one
Speaker 1: cuts up jokes and tries to do their bit, that's
Speaker 1: for sure, or we don't hang out those guys. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, someone like David Spader, Brad Gerett, you know,
Speaker 1: they're pros. They're not gonna sit down and and do
Speaker 1: shiit all day. They'll do it for a minute. Brad
Speaker 1: will come in and say, oh, nicest to you the
Speaker 1: thrift store. You're still doing good for you? You know,
Speaker 1: he right away to rip on me. You know, so
Speaker 1: you got the my hair, you see, I see you
Speaker 1: still got the convertible good, you know, just just think
Speaker 1: rip on me?
Speaker 2: And which is the bat? Have you been roasted?
Speaker 1: I've been roasted, yes, but not not not on the
Speaker 1: carrat top for first per se roast. But I've been
Speaker 1: on roast where I got roasted. Yes, got one was
Speaker 1: was flavor flav. I was on his roast and everybody
Speaker 1: was going after me, and I finally was my turn.
Speaker 1: I said, Hey, we're roasting him. What the jeez?
Speaker 2: You're very roastable, Yes I am. They love You're easy
Speaker 2: to cook. I'm easy to you lean meat, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. You're easy to cook, not a lot
Speaker 2: of fat Chris Row. When I was going up to
Speaker 2: do stand up, I was wise enough to text the
Speaker 2: or call the different comedians that I've met or know,
Speaker 2: and some of them I'm not like best friends with them.
Speaker 2: And I know Kevin Neil and we know each other
Speaker 2: for sure, but like we don't speak every day. And
Speaker 2: someone like him or Whitney or Kathy Griffin or whatever,
Speaker 2: a bunch of people. I just asked everyone for their advice,
Speaker 2: like what would be advice you would give. Ellen said
Speaker 2: to be funny, which I thought was really amazing and helpful,
Speaker 2: But everybody gave me like a different sort of set
Speaker 2: of rules. Chris Rocks jumps off the page because he said,
Speaker 2: make sure to have a beginning and an ending and
Speaker 2: the rest is just the flow. And he said it's
Speaker 2: an intimate sort of experience or sport, and to not
Speaker 2: bring a lot of people, which did it. I was
Speaker 2: attracted to. But Kathy Griffin was like, bring as many
Speaker 2: people as are going to make you feel good. And
Speaker 2: someone said use the microphone as a prop. Someone else
Speaker 2: said take away the stand like they were just things
Speaker 2: that I could then crowdsourcer, and then I end up
Speaker 2: deciding what I'm going to do. So even if someone's
Speaker 2: going to be at a wedding and they want to
Speaker 2: get up and give a non shitty toast, Like if
Speaker 2: I had called you, what would you have told me
Speaker 2: I'm going to do five minutes at the New York
Speaker 2: Comedy Club And what would have been like tenants that
Speaker 2: you would have said to me, Well, a.
Speaker 1: Lot of those would have been accurate. I would have said, well, first,
Speaker 1: if you've never done it before, I would I would say,
Speaker 1: go to a stage somewhere and pretend one or once
Speaker 1: or twice and just kind of get the feeling of
Speaker 1: going up there and doing exactly what they said. You know,
Speaker 1: there's I'm lucky, I'm I move around, so I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't hold the microphone. Never have I have a
Speaker 1: love because I'm okay, thanks. So I would figure out
Speaker 1: what's more comfortable first with the mic stand behind it,
Speaker 1: holding it, or take the mic stand and put a
Speaker 1: part and just hold the mic and reference them. You
Speaker 1: know the mics. I know a lot of comics that do.
Speaker 1: They they rest their arm under or they use it
Speaker 1: as a prop, you know, and they're driving the car
Speaker 1: and it's a stick shift or whatever they happen to be.
Speaker 1: That's the trump. Let's find Edw's vice president and I
Speaker 1: pull the thing. But Chris rock is right on point
Speaker 1: about beginning and end. That's that's the most important thing.
Speaker 1: You got to get the beginning down, because you've got
Speaker 1: to get the crowd right away and then you can
Speaker 1: and have fun with them, and then you got to
Speaker 1: get the way to get the hell out of there
Speaker 1: and and be that was called your closer. You have
Speaker 1: to have a good closer, so yeah, and and find
Speaker 1: out what it is that you're you specifically want to
Speaker 1: talk about in that ten minutes, because a lot if
Speaker 1: comics are all over the place and there they go
Speaker 1: up and they say, hey, I'm you know, I'm single
Speaker 1: and whenever I'm married to a guy and that, and
Speaker 1: then it's funny and then they go when they start
Speaker 1: talking about something. I don't know. I like a theme thing, yeah,
Speaker 1: non sec So I like a little bit for me,
Speaker 1: if it was a short amount of time, it would
Speaker 1: be a theme. Like my first gift bit I ever did,
Speaker 1: ever was the whole bit. It was ten minutes, was
Speaker 1: about stealing road signs, and so I will open up
Speaker 1: with a sign and then it was almost like a show.
Speaker 1: I just kept doing different road signs until I got done.
Speaker 1: And that was the That was the whole bit. But uh,
Speaker 1: and then the next time grew on it, I said,
Speaker 1: now it'll be stealing signs and other objects. So I said,
Speaker 1: now they did the signs, Hey how about this bank tube?
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, you're stealing bank
Speaker 1: tube and you know the airline oxygen mask on the plane.
Speaker 1: So it came up with My whole show is kind
Speaker 1: of like thievery but funny, like funny things to do
Speaker 1: with stone, stuff that you'd think. So so, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It just depends on what the style of comedy.
Speaker 2: Is and and and you're saying, it could be as
Speaker 2: niche as possible. You're standing at a wedding for three minute.
Speaker 2: It could be as niche as possible, as long as
Speaker 2: you just connect whatever that thread is back to whatever
Speaker 2: you're talking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it could be it could be a
Speaker 1: plan words, you know, you know, married to married to
Speaker 1: I'm saying, oh, married to Uh, you're single and married
Speaker 1: to a guy you might like to make any sense,
Speaker 1: you could do those kind of things where people like
Speaker 1: like Kevin neal and Ish he's great. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: Kevin's a brilliant comic and he's just funny. He's just funny,
Speaker 1: you know, He's.
Speaker 2: Just some people just have their essence is funny, right,
Speaker 2: you just hold them.
Speaker 1: We hope the MIC's funny, and you'll say, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just went to just hurt my knee playing basketball, not
Speaker 1: pro you know, and it's just funny, right.
Speaker 2: That's the essence of sonic. I guess it entails a
Speaker 2: lot of just the confidence in your own skin of standing.
Speaker 1: There absolutely confidence, And I would say to young comics
Speaker 1: years of practice. I know it sounds an odd thing,
Speaker 1: but like when young comics said, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do comedy, and they said, what do you advice? I see,
Speaker 1: find a stage time somewhere, like whether it's I mean,
Speaker 1: I worked in strip clubs, I worked in restaurants, I
Speaker 1: worked anywhere. So just find a place that will allow
Speaker 1: you to get on stage and work out your craft.
Speaker 1: Work out what you're going to do. That's the most important.
Speaker 1: Then you get you get down what your your stick,
Speaker 1: your style, and your because that's where you know, you
Speaker 1: learn even what your style is like. You know, your
Speaker 1: style might might be high energy, your style might be
Speaker 1: really mellow. Your style might be running all over the
Speaker 1: stage like I do.
Speaker 2: I think that's as important as what you're saying.
Speaker 1: My hair alone is Yeah, my hair alone is part
Speaker 1: of my product. I mean, you know, it's the look you.
Speaker 2: Know, yep, yep, yep. It's interesting who are your favorite comedians, like,
Speaker 2: who are you like into?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Growing up back then was George Carlin, Richard Pryor
Speaker 1: of course all the comics that worked on the Tonight
Speaker 1: show from Steve Martin to you know, Gary Shandling. My god,
Speaker 1: he was funny, but so many and Stephen Wright. You know,
Speaker 1: there's just so many comics that I would and what
Speaker 1: I liked about him too and was that they all
Speaker 1: really be. All the ones, you know, are all different,
Speaker 1: their style, what they talk about. You know. Then you
Speaker 1: get a Bill Maher who talks Bill Maher talks politics.
Speaker 1: But that's what makes him so different because you go
Speaker 1: see Bill Marry and you know he's gonna talk about that,
Speaker 1: and he's brilliantly smart about it. And then you go
Speaker 1: see you know, Howie and how he's just more goofy.
Speaker 1: And then you go see Carly and he's smart and angry,
Speaker 1: and you know, Jim Gaffigan is just goofy. So it's
Speaker 1: it's that's like it's like any kind of form of art,
Speaker 1: whether it be music or rock and roll. That's what
Speaker 1: makes it fun is the uniqueness of each act. You know,
Speaker 1: you can go to a comedy club and see twenty
Speaker 1: different comedies and they're all going to be different, all different,
Speaker 1: you hope.
Speaker 2: Yo, do you find the threat of cancelation that it's
Speaker 2: debilitating to have to even think about what you're going
Speaker 2: to say in this freedom not at all.
Speaker 1: No, you know, in some comics fight would agree with me.
Speaker 1: I've never written anything that wasn't or performing that was
Speaker 1: going to be in that category that makes sense, Like
Speaker 1: everything you're not risk.
Speaker 2: It's not risky. Just that's not what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: That's just not who you are, right, I've never.
Speaker 1: Been the old risky guy, joke guy. Now there's comics
Speaker 1: right now they're like, oh crap, Yeah, they can't write
Speaker 1: anything anymore. Probably they like their whole act is gone.
Speaker 1: They can't do it because that's how they wrote. I
Speaker 1: have things that are on the cusp of people. I
Speaker 1: mean I some of them are not in the show anymore.
Speaker 1: But I go back into my warehouse and I think,
Speaker 1: oh my god, not only was this a great joke
Speaker 1: and it killed for you, but I wonder if that
Speaker 1: would be considered okay now, Like it was funny then,
Speaker 1: and I did it on like Regis and Kathy Leave,
Speaker 1: and of course it was like pe it was PG clean,
Speaker 1: but now would it be h So I never really
Speaker 1: wrote jokes anyhow that we're gonna be that way. I've
Speaker 1: always tried to just keep it silly. Fun No, no,
Speaker 1: very politics, very light. And the only thing I do
Speaker 1: is is a horrible Trump impression. So it's what makes
Speaker 1: it funny because it's just so bad. It's bad that
Speaker 1: people the more I do it, the more they'll and
Speaker 1: I just pick a word and I just say, you
Speaker 1: know I made that. You know you just take coffee.
Speaker 1: I make coffe. It was deep, but there was no
Speaker 1: I make up.
Speaker 2: I want to come see your act. I love big
Speaker 2: I'm one of the few people that really like loves Vegas,
Speaker 2: and I want to come see your act. So in
Speaker 2: reading about you, for some reason, your financial situation is
Speaker 2: like newsworthy. People are surprised that you've made what they
Speaker 2: what they report a thing. And I'm not going to
Speaker 2: be like cry, I just mean you've made a lot
Speaker 2: of money. Is that from just consistent earning and the shows?
Speaker 2: Is it from investing? From from diversity? Is it something
Speaker 2: unexpected real estate? Like? Are you totally financially sound and
Speaker 2: you don't worry about money at all?
Speaker 1: No, it's from bank robbing. I have a lot of banks.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a skilled in and of itself.
Speaker 1: I think that answer to that question is yeah. Let
Speaker 1: mean just be the initial answer to that would be
Speaker 1: definitely longevity of and working for I haven't had a
Speaker 1: I haven't had a break since I started in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty five. And I mean when I mean a break like,
Speaker 1: I've never stopped doing shows. Now. The intensity of shows
Speaker 1: that I do now is more. I do six nights
Speaker 1: a week, four weeks, one week off, four weeks on
Speaker 1: an on average, this last month has been like seven
Speaker 1: eight weeks on. I've been and the week that I
Speaker 1: got off, I went on tour.
Speaker 2: So, so, are you a workaholic?
Speaker 1: No, I am looking forward to my next breakoff in Florida.
Speaker 1: I just I am a workaholic. So yes, I do.
Speaker 1: I do work. I work more than any of them
Speaker 1: my friends do. And you know the residency alone here
Speaker 1: in Vegas at the luxuries is you know, even a comic,
Speaker 1: even my comic friends like you six nights a week?
Speaker 2: My god, Wow, that sounds insane you because but is
Speaker 2: it that you love it? Is it that you Is
Speaker 2: there any fear of irrelevance? Is it any fear of
Speaker 2: financial descision?
Speaker 1: No? I think I Well, I love yeah, No, I
Speaker 1: love it and I and that's what the hotel wants.
Speaker 1: They want a full time guy, and I have no
Speaker 1: problem being the full time guy, but I do. I
Speaker 1: am the first one to tell you. You know, I
Speaker 1: get my week off, I'm gone and I need that
Speaker 1: to re energize. So but you know, we just did
Speaker 1: road shows and that was fun. But you know, you
Speaker 1: get a week off or you want to go on
Speaker 1: the road and do shows. I'm like, well, I'd rather
Speaker 1: go home. But then I also said, I haven't been
Speaker 1: on the road in a While'll get on a tour
Speaker 1: bus and do the whole nine yards. It was also
Speaker 1: good for me and my crew to kind of do
Speaker 1: that to keep your you know, like you said, the relevant,
Speaker 1: keep yourself working. You know, I work a lot here too.
Speaker 1: But the road shows are really challenging because you don't
Speaker 1: do the Vegas show when you're in Modesto. You know,
Speaker 1: you're in Modesto, California. You just walk o. Hey, it's
Speaker 1: good to be in Vegas, Like, huh, So.
Speaker 2: That's where you're exercising. That's where you're like exercising the
Speaker 2: muscle right.
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, And that's what made it makes it fun
Speaker 1: and it's challenging. You know, people are like they saw
Speaker 1: the show and they were like, wow, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a whole different that's a whole different show. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you got to remember.
Speaker 3: And kind of have an outline and you can balance
Speaker 3: in and out do something from the Begas Show, but
Speaker 3: it's got to have a theme that you know, you
Speaker 3: made it just for this town.
Speaker 1: So I go to town. I go into the town,
Speaker 1: and I and I spend I go get lunch somewhere,
Speaker 1: and then I take my crew and we go around
Speaker 1: and we take pictures and or videos of something in
Speaker 1: the town, and then we put it in the show.
Speaker 1: So the crowd goes crazy. You know.
Speaker 2: That's That's one of the things I was going to
Speaker 2: say before that I've noticed, like if I go do
Speaker 2: a speaking engagement for a thousand people, even though I'm
Speaker 2: quote unquote not in a comedian, if you bring up
Speaker 2: something that like you saw that day or that happened
Speaker 2: or it's happened in their town, they really just feel special.
Speaker 2: They love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they know that you went out of the way
Speaker 1: to Yeah, it's a special moment for them that you
Speaker 1: went out of the way to know about their town.
Speaker 2: And then it's fresh and then it's fresh.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: This is the age where for me it feels like
Speaker 2: you only want to do the things you want to do,
Speaker 2: but the tables are still hot, and you're realize that
Speaker 2: you're like not a barred time, but like a career
Speaker 2: being relevant for so many years. You wouldn't think that
Speaker 2: at your age or at my age, like you'd still
Speaker 2: be so in demand. So I feel like you kind
Speaker 2: of want to ride it because you know the tables
Speaker 2: will go cold and that's when you'll walk out. I mean,
Speaker 2: is that kind of Do you feel that way too?
Speaker 2: Like it's still going so I might as well. It's
Speaker 2: not gonna be going forever. Trees don't grow to the sky,
Speaker 2: so I might as well just you know, ride it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, and have fun. And that's that's what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say in my in my world, you know,
Speaker 1: and I say to myself almost every day similar things
Speaker 1: like you know, I'm fifty nine and I have six
Speaker 1: years left in the contract. It makes me sixty five
Speaker 1: when I get done with the contract. We just had
Speaker 1: a thing less time, I mean, and it's like would
Speaker 1: you sign again? I said, I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: there yet, Like you know, five years ago, when they
Speaker 1: asked me, I said, I'm not resigning when I turned fifty,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say fifty five, I was gonna not quit,
Speaker 1: but I was gonna slow down, like to speed them.
Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing that at fifty nine you have a
Speaker 2: contract till sixty five. Like I have to say, like,
Speaker 2: it's pretty that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: In frightening yeah yeah, but uh yeah, it's uh it's
Speaker 1: it's like Buddy Hackett, another great comic. I met him
Speaker 1: years and years ago and he was at the airport
Speaker 1: and I said, oh my god, I will bother you,
Speaker 1: but like Buddy Hackett, you know, like genius, right, And
Speaker 1: he said, uh, hey kid, you know carettop. But he
Speaker 1: was I don't know if he any think he knew
Speaker 1: who I was. But he said, uh, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you some advice and I said, oh please, I would
Speaker 1: love that. So he took a nap in the lounge
Speaker 1: at the airport and he wrote down the key to
Speaker 1: the Treasure is the treasure, and he gave it to
Speaker 1: me and I got on the plane. I was like,
Speaker 1: what is he drunk? And my friend said, what are
Speaker 1: you right? And I said, the key to the treasure
Speaker 1: is the treasure. And then my friend said oh no, actually,
Speaker 1: that's pretty profound. Try to figure out what that means.
Speaker 1: And I said, what do you means? He said, we'll
Speaker 1: break it down. I think I figured out. So I
Speaker 1: kept looking at it, and I said, I guess it's
Speaker 1: just so generalized. But the key to the treasure like
Speaker 1: the key to light, the key to what you're you want,
Speaker 1: key to what you're holding is what you're holding.
Speaker 2: So I looked at like, oh, the journey. It's about
Speaker 2: the journey, not the destination, is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, the key to the journey is the journey.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly how I took it. So I said, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: that's actually pretty cool. I enjoyed what you're doing right now.
Speaker 1: You're doing you're doing this. You you started doing this
Speaker 1: when you're like eighteen years old, and you're you actually
Speaker 1: you're doing what you wanted to. You're doing it. You
Speaker 1: pulled it off right, enjoying it. So that's what I
Speaker 1: try to figure every night when I go on stage.
Speaker 1: I try to put on course. Every comic says that,
Speaker 1: but not I know a call out of comics, dunt
Speaker 1: or entertainers for that matter. I'm very like, every show
Speaker 1: is the first time you've done it kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And the audience is savvy. They'll see through it. They
Speaker 1: know when you get up there and you're like last night,
Speaker 1: like having fun and really like the good, good girl
Speaker 1: in front of game me this beautiful carrot, diamond encrusted carrot,
Speaker 1: my logo and diamond crusted. It was beautiful. So I
Speaker 1: was a look at this. Look my fans did like
Speaker 1: how in the crowd was like, oh my god. You know,
Speaker 1: but if I had gotten that, I mean tossed it
Speaker 1: and said thanks for my fucking you know, you do
Speaker 1: very great. I mean really like wow, it took hours
Speaker 1: to make, you know, and it gives you a little
Speaker 1: little light, a little bit of fun, and you look
Speaker 1: out there and people are you know, some people the
Speaker 1: audience something else I learned about. You know, people could
Speaker 1: be going through really bad stuff. And that sounds like
Speaker 1: cliche and whatever, but I so many times I've come
Speaker 1: off stage and someone said, you know, I lost my
Speaker 1: dad today. Yeah, and I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 1: So I figured I'd go see you because you would
Speaker 1: make me laugh and I'm like wow, And a lot
Speaker 1: a lot of times that happens, or they just was
Speaker 1: two weeks before of them show. There's a meat great
Speaker 1: And this lady said, we're all there, and she said,
Speaker 1: should we tell you? And I said, tell me what
Speaker 1: they said? You know, last time we were here, Mom
Speaker 1: was here and she loved you and she here's a
Speaker 1: picture for her buying your T shirt. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I remember her. She was, well, she's no longer with us,
Speaker 1: and the reason we came is because of her that night,
Speaker 1: and you know, so we're here to celebrate her. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, it's nice to know that because you
Speaker 1: get out there, you kind of think of that when
Speaker 1: you're when you're doing it, like make it special, you.
Speaker 2: Know, individual moments of meaning. I was doing this appearance
Speaker 2: in Australia and in Melbourne a woman came up and
Speaker 2: she couldn't keep it together and she was crying and
Speaker 2: she had had a neurological issue and vertigo and all
Speaker 2: these things. She hadn't been able to leave for two years.
Speaker 2: And she's a massive fan. And she said that she
Speaker 2: wanted to get to New York at some point to
Speaker 2: see me when I had been speaking, but she felt
Speaker 2: that me coming to Australia was New York coming to her,
Speaker 2: and she hadn't left her house for two years, like
Speaker 2: and to take be present, to take that moment. And
Speaker 2: I ended up putting together a whole gift getting asking
Speaker 2: to get her information. She thought that she'd obviously never
Speaker 2: hear from me, and sent her this gift the next day,
Speaker 2: and like she posted about it and she couldn't believe it,
Speaker 2: and like different things, like I was at a restaurant
Speaker 2: last week and these two girls came up and the
Speaker 2: security person. One of them got a picture with me,
Speaker 2: and the security person you know, said to them, like
Speaker 2: and then they they left, And I've been thinking ever
Speaker 2: since about the poor other girl who didn't get the picture.
Speaker 2: It's not fair the one friend got to pay. Like
Speaker 2: I'll obsess over something so strange like that, like someone
Speaker 2: comes up your mid bite, You're like, do you mind
Speaker 2: if we just wait till I finished, you know, eating,
Speaker 2: and then you don't see them again, And then I
Speaker 2: feel bad that, like I should have just been like
Speaker 2: mid brock bite and taking a picture, even though it's
Speaker 2: fair to want to finish your meal. Like I'll think
Speaker 2: about things like that because it means so much to
Speaker 2: them in their day, and I don't want to make
Speaker 2: that other girl feel stupid she didn't get the picture.
Speaker 2: So it's weird the things that you'll like just like
Speaker 2: notice or think about and being present with those people
Speaker 2: that it does have a lot of meaning to your point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: very true, really really really interesting. Wow you are so
Speaker 2: I just love the show because like I get to
Speaker 2: you know, your carat top Like that's that's like two words.
Speaker 2: It's a name, it's a person I've seen in the past.
Speaker 2: It's the guy with the red hair, Like, wow, you
Speaker 2: know you're a comic now, I you know, feel like
Speaker 2: I know you. You're very deep and interesting and smart
Speaker 2: and sunny, so and nice. So I'm very grateful to
Speaker 2: meet you. And I'd love to come to your show
Speaker 2: when I come to Vegas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be super. I would love you to be there.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's fun just because the live show
Speaker 1: is so different than what people see on TV, which
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's not good or bad. It's just best.
Speaker 1: The number one comment like, man, I've always seen you
Speaker 1: and never seen you live. Well, I believed it's like
Speaker 1: an edge to it. It's a good energy.
Speaker 2: Because sometimes you have to be what they hire you
Speaker 2: to be, which is right. They want you to be
Speaker 2: what the people want you to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they mean every show would never let me do
Speaker 1: stand up? I mean never, right, I said, wouldn't that
Speaker 1: be funny? Jay, after all the years of doing that?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't really? Jane, I had no problem with it. It
Speaker 1: was the producer. That's the producer. I said, you know,
Speaker 1: I'd done this time. I show like thirty five times,
Speaker 1: and I said, I'm always on and I come out
Speaker 1: with my box. What if I came out and I
Speaker 1: have the box, I've done it, I don't but I
Speaker 1: don't open it, and the crowds like like waiting, and
Speaker 1: I'm just doing all my stand up and then's the
Speaker 1: last one. I go to pick it and I just
Speaker 1: shut the box and I go, all right, we'll see it.
Speaker 1: And it was going to be so called. Jane loved
Speaker 1: the idea, but the producers like, well, you know, I
Speaker 1: think they want to see the prompts. I go, the stories.
Speaker 1: You're going to be just as good as the props.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: But right, like I grew up with that. I know,
Speaker 2: like I grew up, I graduated, you know, you're allowed
Speaker 2: to evolve into something different. Lots. Yeah, that's yeah, that's
Speaker 2: why the Vegas Show sounds like it's great for you
Speaker 2: and you are private about your relationship, which I respect.
Speaker 2: You've never have you ever had you have kids? Or
Speaker 2: you never had kids?
Speaker 1: I have no kids.
Speaker 2: Okay. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything.
Speaker 1: If I do. Oh ship, where are they?
Speaker 2: I don't know, They're probably in the audience. And well,
Speaker 2: this is the redheads in the audience. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thanks for talking to me. I was
Speaker 1: excited about doing this.
Speaker 2: You were did you know who I was?
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I know all about you really, and
Speaker 1: you're very smart. On top of all that, too, you're
Speaker 1: very You're very smart, so I was excited.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I always wonder like, is this guy
Speaker 2: I can't even know who the hell I am? Like,
Speaker 2: why should you want me to be on the show?
Speaker 2: Oh good, okay, awesome. Well I'm gonna hit you up
Speaker 2: and it'll be such an interesting when I take a
Speaker 2: picture with you and Flavor Flavor, people like this is
Speaker 2: what you hang out with Carot's top.
Speaker 1: Flavor so unique, it's so great. No, I know people
Speaker 1: love that.
Speaker 2: I'm so cool. Awesome, all right, I'll see you soon.
Speaker 1: Serious, Thanks, thank you. Bye.
Speaker 2: Scott. Bye, Scott, I'm calling you, Scott.
Speaker 1: Yeah bye, Bethany. All right, cheers