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Speaker 1: to introduce this week's guest to you, but Morgan Debon,

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Speaker 1: the CEO of Blavity, is in the house. Morgan, how

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Speaker 1: many times you been on BA do you know?

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Speaker 2: At least two or three times?

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Speaker 1: Maybe your fourth time?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 1: Wow, I had forgotten how early in the game you

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Speaker 1: because when you're starting a podcast, I mean it's different now,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, we started this ten years ago and for

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Speaker 1: And I actually went back and I listened to don't

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Speaker 1: make that face, because you know what, I realized, you're

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Speaker 1: just the same.

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Speaker 2: Like I am the same, You just sound the same.

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Speaker 1: Your vibe is the same for change, yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: part of me is I just was like really impressed

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Speaker 1: hear that? Like what do you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think I am pretty much.

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Speaker 3: I've always lived by like a center of principles and

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Speaker 3: I always feel pretty comfortable with who I am. I

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Speaker 3: think the times in my life where I've been the

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Speaker 2: But like when I'm just me, then everything is much easier.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, and being around people like you, I

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Speaker 1: mean people like you, not to make you feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm putting you under a microscope, but I feel calm

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Speaker 1: with in your presence, and I'm someone who's like you know,

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Speaker 1: I maybe it's like a little bit I undiagnosed ADHD

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Speaker 1: like you are like the duck, calm on the surface,

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Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, but that seems to be like a

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Speaker 1: core of who you are. Where did that come from?

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Speaker 1: Like that inner sense of calm and self love. I

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Speaker 3: You know, I think that being grounded today is because

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Speaker 3: And so when there are situations that are not great,

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Speaker 3: when my life isn't going according to plan, when we

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Speaker 3: And I think for anybody who feels like wants to

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Speaker 3: Blavity, or you know, my partner Josh closed a huge

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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean a lot. Even though you at your

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Speaker 1: One of the things that you talked about on your

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Speaker 3: Is for me. This book is absolutely for you, someone

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very different than the business. I would

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Speaker 1: doing all I wanted to do. And the thing about

441
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Speaker 1: solopreneurship is it can be isolating, and especially being a

442
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Speaker 1: mom on top of that, like I don't really get

443
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Speaker 1: to connect with other other than like BA fam and

444
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Speaker 1: my family and my neighbors, not doing a lot of

445
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Speaker 1: connecting in person with peers, and so yeah, it was

446
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Speaker 1: just really I left there feeling extremely capable of doing

447
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Speaker 1: everything I wanted to do and saying it out loud

448
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Speaker 1: with Brown Ambition and turning it into like the media

449
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Speaker 1: juggernaut that I wanted to become. And yeah, I definitely

450
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Speaker 1: owe that to you and to Afrotech. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for thank you in advance, not in advance many belated

452
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Speaker 1: thank you for being You're right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that the power of your network

454
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Speaker 3: is one of the things that can propel you in

455
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Speaker 3: times when you're making those kinds of decisions like how

456
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Speaker 3: are we going to scale Brown ambition? What does broad

457
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Speaker 3: ambition three point out look like under Mandy's leadership?

458
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Speaker 2: What does it look like?

459
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Speaker 3: You have no one else to run things back besides

460
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Speaker 3: your own brain.

461
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Speaker 1: And you want the right people. You want someone who

462
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Speaker 1: you can call up and be like, hey, I'm facing

463
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Speaker 1: this problem and they're not going to tell you, well,

464
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Speaker 1: why don't you just not do it? It seems hard? That

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Speaker 1: seems hard. And the number of people who I've told

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Speaker 1: me this week to just go take a nap and

467
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Speaker 1: why don't you take something off your plate, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,

468
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Speaker 1: this is not here. This is not the time to

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Speaker 1: take things off the plate. I need a bigger plate,

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Speaker 1: that's what you mean, I need a bigger plate?

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, I think that's like one of the challenges

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Speaker 3: with the self care narrative and like the soft life narrative,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm actually not like super pro soft life, like

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Speaker 3: I'm pro proactive care, Like I'm pro don't get to

475
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Speaker 3: a place where you feel like your plate is overflowing

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Speaker 3: with work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not a like just do less like no,

478
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Speaker 2: like let me let me max out and still feel

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Speaker 2: good about it. Like how do you max out and

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Speaker 2: still get eight hours?

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Speaker 1: Mmmm? It's like becoming a better optimizing optimization.

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Speaker 3: Like, I just believe that that is possible. I believe

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Speaker 3: that you can use tools like AI. I believe that

484
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Speaker 3: you can make different choices with how you spend your

485
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Speaker 3: money to invest in things that are going to give

486
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Speaker 3: you your time back. Like I believe that there is

487
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Speaker 3: a way for you to have it all eventually.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you and Rachel Rogers next to each other. It's

489
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Speaker 1: like you ain't leaving that conversation without a nanny. It's

490
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Speaker 1: like a cleaning crew, a meal delivery, a chef. Like

491
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Speaker 1: you're going to invest in your.

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Speaker 2: Ste at GPT pro like, let's just start with TPT.

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Speaker 1: Pro like, okay, twenty bucks a month, who had it?

494
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Speaker 2: No, I want the next one up the Yeah there's

495
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Speaker 2: another level.

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Speaker 1: Oh damn.

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Speaker 3: But but the next level allows has an operator and

498
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Speaker 3: does all this stuff where you can do stuff for

499
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Speaker 3: you for you on your computer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to I want you to take me

501
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Speaker 1: through your day. I want you to tell me, like,

502
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Speaker 1: do you have a certain routine, how are you balancing

503
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Speaker 1: and checking things? And also who are the people that

504
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Speaker 1: are checking in with you and supporting you throughout the day, Like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my day.

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Speaker 3: I mean I have to say I live in a

507
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Speaker 3: state of privilege right now. So I don't want anyone

508
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Speaker 3: to hear this and be like, girl, you're doing too much.

509
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 3: That it's important for people to understand at a certain

510
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Speaker 3: level how much help we all really have behind the scenes,

511
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Speaker 3: because I didn't realize this until it was far too late,

512
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Speaker 3: that people have things like house managers and nannies and

513
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Speaker 3: all pairs, and they're have live live in nanny's or

514
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Speaker 3: rotational nannies where someone is working twenty four to seven

515
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Speaker 3: for a week, they're off and then another nanny comes

516
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Speaker 3: while they're off.

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Speaker 2: They have two full.

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Speaker 3: Time nannies, Like, I didn't know the game that people

519
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Speaker 3: were playing while everyone was telling us.

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Speaker 2: Just lean in, just lean in, just say yes. And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, ma'am, you didn't tell me what was going

522
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Speaker 2: on behind the scenes. It allowed you to lean in.

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Speaker 2: So that is my disclaim before I tell you my schedule.

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Speaker 1: Open that gate, baby, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it starts actually the night before.

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Speaker 3: So the night before, my virtual assistant Beth sends me

527
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Speaker 3: my schedule for the next day with any notes, pre

528
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Speaker 3: meeting notes, anything that I need to know mentally so

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Speaker 3: that I can prep for the next day. So every

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Speaker 3: meeting that I have, I have two calendar invites. I

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Speaker 3: have the actual calendar invite, and then I have the

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Speaker 3: notes for that meeting with any context like who introduced

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Speaker 3: me to that person, what are we supposed to be

534
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Speaker 3: talking about? Maybe prereads like all that stuff. Okay, I

535
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Speaker 3: sleep for at least eight hours a night. I need

536
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Speaker 3: a full night sleep, kind of girly. I wake up

537
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Speaker 3: between five thirty and six fifteen. I would say, I

538
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Speaker 3: don't wake up with an alarm. I kind of just

539
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Speaker 3: wake up based off of what my body needs. But

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Speaker 3: it's just pretty consistent. I wake up with the sun,

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Speaker 3: which is hard to do in the winter.

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Speaker 2: But you get about it.

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Speaker 1: Like nine, I go to.

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Speaker 3: Sleep between nine nine and ten. I'm sorry, yep, I

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Speaker 3: am not a night out. I'm a morning person, so

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Speaker 3: I'm highly productive in the morning. So I wake up

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Speaker 3: and typically I sit in bed and like get some

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Speaker 3: work done while i'm everything is still nice and warm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Course from there. My routine has changed now that I

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Speaker 3: have a son. Previously we would get up and go

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Speaker 3: to the gym. That does not happen. Now we get

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Speaker 3: up and we wait for him to wake up, wait

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Speaker 3: for him to wake up. Then's breakfast, So him and

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Speaker 3: I breakfast together, and usually I'm listening to some sort

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Speaker 3: of news CNBC typically just trying to make sure or

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Speaker 3: the New York Times Daily from the day before typically, so.

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Speaker 1: Some sort of info there up before the Daily comes out,

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Speaker 1: I believe.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know actually know what time the Daily

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Speaker 2: gets out, but it's.

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Speaker 1: Like six am.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so maybe maybe actually I could listen to

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Speaker 3: the to the current one, but I'm usually be behind.

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Speaker 1: I skip the depressing ones. I'm like, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to spend thirty minutes thinking about the state of the Union.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, no, that's the one I want to hear, because

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Speaker 3: I'm sure as hell was not able to form. Like

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Speaker 3: I'm married the first thirty minutes of pompous circumstances that

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Speaker 3: I'm out, I'm gonna go watch Paradise.

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Speaker 1: So then just finish that.

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Speaker 2: So good.

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Speaker 3: So then after the nanny arrives at around eight, not

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Speaker 3: around at eight. And we also have an ad pair,

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Speaker 3: So the odd pair now is up and online and

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Speaker 3: with him at seven, so basically between like I'm sitting

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Speaker 3: and eating with him, but she's still around in case

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Speaker 3: I need to, you know, have my.

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Speaker 2: Attention doing something else.

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Speaker 1: And nanny.

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Speaker 2: Have an AF pair and a nanny Now all.

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Speaker 1: Pair is great? Why? Why? Why both? What is that?

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Speaker 3: Because I travel so much now so his first year

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Speaker 3: of life I didn't travel or he came with me

585
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Speaker 3: because I was breastfeeding. Now that he's not attached to

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Speaker 3: the boob, mama is al okay, but overnight.

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Speaker 2: Or who's gonna watch him overnight?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Like all pair can only work ten hours a day,

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Speaker 3: which she doesn't. She works like six or seven hours

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Speaker 3: a day, and nanny could not work twenty four hours

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Speaker 3: straight like that would.

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Speaker 2: Be a lot.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha. So the nanny's rolling in to kind of pick up.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, well vice versa.

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Speaker 3: The pair the nanny's a primary, the all pair is

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Speaker 3: actually the gap closer.

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Speaker 1: Oh really okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because his language development, he's he's a talker, so

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Speaker 3: he needs someone who speaks really good English during the day.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, So where's the ope. Where'd you get your

602
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Speaker 1: pair from?

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Speaker 2: She's from Brazil?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Nice?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have I have friends. I have a friend

607
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Speaker 1: who has who has been has had a great experience

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Speaker 1: with all pairs.

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Speaker 2: She's great.

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Speaker 1: If I had the space, I totally have one. Because

611
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Speaker 1: they got to have their own Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They have their own room.

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Speaker 1: If you do it through like a reputable surface, which we.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kindly regulated actually.

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Speaker 1: As it yeah, as it should be to protect them,

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Speaker 1: it should be.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh yeah, check my background. But no, it's

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's great. Like he gets basically a

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Speaker 3: big sister playmate. And in those days where Josh and

620
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Speaker 3: I are both out of town, we have a stable

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Speaker 3: care system where the nanny's not being overworked and he's

622
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Speaker 3: able to have two people that he trusts with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, alrighty, So the Nanny's arriving, and where.

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Speaker 3: Danny's arriving, Mama's out, I'm out. So that's basically eight am.

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Speaker 3: I'm working Okay, so eight am or that would be

626
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Speaker 3: when I would go to the gym or plates. So

627
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Speaker 3: assume a day I'm not working out, then I'm doing

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Speaker 3: If it's day that I'm not working out, we would

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Speaker 3: go for a walk too if it's warm, so that

630
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Speaker 3: would be my little workout for the day.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm in the office. I'm out here in my.

632
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: Studio going through typically the like prepping again for meetings,

633
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: doing any prereads again that I didn't do the night before,

634
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: and then just getting to it.

635
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Speaker 2: Like depending on the day.

636
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Speaker 3: I see my days and I talk about this in

637
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: the book, but instead of context switching between all of

638
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: the businesses that I have throughout the day, Like Tuesdays

639
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: are Afrotech, so I meet with everybody on the afro

640
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: Tech team. I have the Afrotech sales team meeting. I'm

641
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: like reviewing all the Afrotech things. Mondays and Wednesdays are

642
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: Blavity Fest and Blabvity Media Group, so I meet with

643
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: the teams that way. Thursday and Friday are external. It's

644
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: like today we're recording this. It is an external conversation.

645
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 3: So I have five or six external meetings today, So

646
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: depending on the day, I kind of know what's going

647
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: to happen. And then I'm done with meetings by four

648
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 3: thirty five. And I what you're eating during the day, Oh,

649
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: I simple food, yes, early? Yeah, Lunch is usually like

650
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: tuna salad or egg salad.

651
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: And do you cook or do you have like a cook?

652
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: I don't have a cook right now, but I've had

653
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: seasons where I've had cooks and chefs.

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00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

655
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 3: So again, like I very much believe that my village

656
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: should be reflection on whatever season I'm in and when

657
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: I need. So there's been times where I had a

658
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: house manager and a chef, right, Langston, those two roles

659
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: now are his, Okay, so get her. I used to

660
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Speaker 3: have my call my house manager an adult nanny. She

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Speaker 3: would make sure I was taken care of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I fucking love an adult nanny. I need

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Speaker 1: my wife. I like a stereotypical sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Choose everything you know.

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Speaker 3: And then when when Langston was a super duper baby

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Speaker 3: and like really really sleeping a lot, then his nanny

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Speaker 3: was also a bit of an assistant and house manager

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Speaker 3: because he was sleep half the time she was here.

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Speaker 2: Now he's up and about.

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Speaker 3: He needs full time attention, right So I'm always reevaluating

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Speaker 3: what makes sense based off of the priority pillars that

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Speaker 3: I have, and then also what's going to allow me

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Speaker 3: to have the time and freedom to be able to

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Speaker 3: get to the next level of what I'm trying to do.

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Speaker 3: So right now, my focus is ensuring that I'm reaching

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Speaker 3: as many people as possible with these principles and frameworks

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Speaker 3: and methods and tools in the book. Second is to

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Speaker 3: make sure that the media business, which is the toughest

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Speaker 3: business to run in this type of economy, is stable

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Speaker 3: and slightly growing. I will settle for slightly growing in

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Speaker 3: this economy as long as we beat the market, I'm happy, okay.

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Speaker 3: And then my third priority is just like re establishing

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Speaker 3: and having time to envision what a new life looks

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Speaker 3: like for me now that I am a mother and

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Speaker 3: I am soon to be a wife and all of

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Speaker 3: these different things those require a new vision for my futures.

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Speaker 3: I'm just making more time for me to be quiet

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Speaker 3: and to think and to dream what the next five

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Speaker 3: ten years.

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Speaker 1: Looks like for me, Okay, can we peek through that

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Speaker 1: window for a second? Yeah, what do you think? What

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Speaker 1: do you see when you look at the next five

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Speaker 1: ten years.

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Speaker 3: Well, I you know, I'm eleven years in as the

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Speaker 3: CEO of Lavity. I think at some point I will

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Speaker 3: continue to work with my team for there to be

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Speaker 3: new leaders who take on the operating role. I will

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Speaker 3: always have an owner role, but there's a difference between

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Speaker 3: an owner operator and just an owner or an operator.

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Speaker 3: So I look forward to transitioning, I think, into being

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Speaker 3: more of an owner and less of a day to

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Speaker 3: day operator. I think the second thing is, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm really enjoying working with small businesses, and I really

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Speaker 3: enjoy helping entrepreneurs who are already doing well get to

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Speaker 3: the next level, like whether that's raised their first round

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Speaker 3: of funding, whether that's think about their own exit. You know,

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Speaker 3: I've bought three businesses in the last ten years, so

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Speaker 3: I know what it's like to go through an exit

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Speaker 3: and to be on the other side of integrating.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I want to be a.

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Speaker 3: Venture capitalist, but I do believe in like being a

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Speaker 3: good capitalist. In other words, maybe raising a fund and

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Speaker 3: investing in small businesses and helping middle market companies get

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Speaker 3: to the next level. So I think there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of different ways that I can take it. You know,

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Speaker 3: with more time, it will the opportunities will reveal themselves.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's yeah, excited for what comes next.

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Speaker 1: I also, you know, having been on the journey, like

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Speaker 1: just as a as a yeah, from the outside looking in,

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Speaker 1: it's been. It's fun. It's you're like a character in

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Speaker 1: a story that I mean, I know.

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Speaker 2: That you're a human beings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just think it's it's really Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a privilege to get to follow you on

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Speaker 1: that journey and like and every once in a while

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Speaker 1: check in, see what's happening, what's this new iteration of Morgan? Like,

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Speaker 1: and I just wish you so much luck with the

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Speaker 1: book and I hope it is as huge as it

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Speaker 1: deserves to be. I will be giving a copy to

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Speaker 1: multiple solopreneur friends of mine who I feel like need it.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, just let me know what Morgan coaching program

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Speaker 1: I can sign up for.

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Speaker 2: You can sign up for work Smart. We meet monthly.

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Speaker 3: We have so much fun and we usually have about

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fety people on the call.

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Speaker 2: We talk about whatever's going on in the world and

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Speaker 2: I just have people work through it.

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Speaker 1: Amazing. All right, Morgan, y'all go check out her book,

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Speaker 1: get pre order it now. I'm putting the link in

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Speaker 1: the show notes. And do you have a book website.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you do. Rewrite your rules dot com.

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Speaker 2: Rules dot com. There we go.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's how you know she was talking to Tiffany.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's got that book website.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I think you need the tenth step plan and I

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Speaker 2: shall follow it.

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Speaker 1: I mean it, it works, it works, all right, va fan.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, Morgan, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me Brown Ambition.

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Speaker 2: Mandy, thanks for having me. See y'all later. Bye,