WEBVTT - Ep. 137 – Closing credit cards to cancel debt? Not so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, watch it. Ah, this is Tiffany and Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have coffee today. I couldn't handle it extra

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<v Speaker 2>octave and we are around ambition round.

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<v Speaker 1>Ohday is Q two tax day for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh exciting?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it really was. I was like, so that's when

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you who are business owners, you know that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you're not a business owner, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>might know that the taxier for business owners is split

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<v Speaker 1>in two quarters, and a quarter is just three months

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<v Speaker 1>at a time. So first three months out of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>I paid my taxes and now the second three months

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<v Speaker 1>out of the year, which is what is that? So,

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny Fevry March, April, May June. So I have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay taxes on the income that I earned minus expenses

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<v Speaker 1>on April, May and June. So I met with my

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<v Speaker 1>my big accountant, Carlos. And Carlos and I were just

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<v Speaker 1>going over the numbers. It was you know, the business

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<v Speaker 1>is doing, you know well, but it's like one, paying

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<v Speaker 1>taxes it's not fun, but two as business grows. Manday,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, so for those who know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>I have three well, yes, three companies. I've got the

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<v Speaker 1>budgetist to the original company. I've got the Liverature Academy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my online school, and then I have a

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<v Speaker 1>marketing company. And so because I have three companies and

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<v Speaker 1>I have like folks that work for me that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of do work on all of the companies, payroll was

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<v Speaker 1>getting really crazy. And so Arloso, just give me some

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<v Speaker 1>really good advice about how to manage that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the next level of your business man, your media empire,

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<v Speaker 2>your bud just needs to empire.

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<v Speaker 1>What is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah interested about quarterly taxes? Because you know, I've always

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<v Speaker 2>heard that it's a good practice for entrepreneurs, small business owners,

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<v Speaker 2>self employed people basically to pay taxes quarterly. So what

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<v Speaker 2>do you do to prepare for that? Because even just

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<v Speaker 2>every three months, if you don't prepare for it could

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot of money. So, like, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing month to month to make sure you're ready for

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<v Speaker 2>that quarterly tax bill? And what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that actually entail? Do you keep it in

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<v Speaker 2>a separate account, does your accountant keep it? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>do automatic debits? How do you even like calculate? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>So many questions.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So, honestly, three years ago, well the first

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<v Speaker 1>three or four, maybe even five years of business. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have all of this, but now I have

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<v Speaker 1>my profit and laws statement for each of my three businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what Rachel does is that when it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for me to meet with Carlos every quarter, she combines

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<v Speaker 1>them into the quarterly statement and then that's what I bring. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>it's usually like like a one to two page paper

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<v Speaker 1>where it just looks like just like a I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>not an Excel spreadsheet, but just like like a word

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<v Speaker 1>doc in three columns, where it's like, this is how

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<v Speaker 1>much Tiffany made, this is how much she spent each

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<v Speaker 1>of these months, and this is what's left over, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is what kind of like the category she spent on.

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<v Speaker 1>And Carlos will review it. If something looks off, he

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<v Speaker 1>might say, you know you're missing this or something is

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<v Speaker 1>off or whatever, and then from that Carlos says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>based upon what you've made, this is what your taxes are.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he gives me some paper that basically says,

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<v Speaker 1>because my tax is the way I pay them, I

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<v Speaker 1>pay them as an individual, so my companies passed through

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<v Speaker 1>me and I because I own es Corpse, so well,

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<v Speaker 1>my companies are LLCs but I'm taxed as an X

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<v Speaker 1>corpse or an es corp is your tax like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of allocation, and so that means that I'm not self employed.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually work for my companies and so as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>I pay my taxes. And you really, once you reach

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<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of money, you have to pay requarter.

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<v Speaker 1>So what Carlos having to do when I first started

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<v Speaker 1>is I used to set aside twenty five percent of

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<v Speaker 1>every every time my companies paid me because that was enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when it wasn't enough, I had to set

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<v Speaker 1>up thirty five percent, and most recently, as of this year,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to start setting inside thirty five percent in

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<v Speaker 1>order to cover. And I honestly like I say that

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<v Speaker 1>in like an ALLY savings account, I'm not super fancy.

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<v Speaker 1>They have, you know, a decent interest rate for their savings.

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<v Speaker 1>And I look at my ALLY savings and I'm like, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>there's money there, Thank goodness, because I've been saving. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I pay online and that way the IRS doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>come for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that ALA account set up with your business entity

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<v Speaker 2>or do you personally? Is like your personal ALLY account.

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<v Speaker 1>My personal because one, this is money that been already

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<v Speaker 1>paid out to me so, and I don't. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>asked called the ally decease they had an allied business account,

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<v Speaker 1>they did it? They yeah, no they didn't. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just my person because like I'm at this point, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>paying these are this is personal taxes that I'm paying.

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<v Speaker 1>So now that I'm married, my husband no longer gets

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<v Speaker 1>a tax refund because our taxes are now jointly done together.

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<v Speaker 1>And so because because I'm married and because of him working,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually helps me save money on taxes. So I

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<v Speaker 1>asked Carlos what's better should we do? Married filing separately

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<v Speaker 1>or married filing jointly, and Carlos running both numbers and

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<v Speaker 1>found that I could save Like last year, I saved

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<v Speaker 1>like almost fifteen thousand dollars in real money and taxes

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<v Speaker 1>by filing jointly. And so we filed jointly. But he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get a tax refund anymore. So instead I know

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<v Speaker 1>what his refund would only be. So instead I just

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<v Speaker 1>break him off a little bit and was like, you know, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know you said.

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<v Speaker 2>You're nicer than me. I don't do that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well what we do is like he because now my

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<v Speaker 1>husband's getting good at it, where he has, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think normally his refund might be like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand dollars, so I would just be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's three thousand dollars. And he typically is like a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand for Supergirl, a thousand for savings, five hundred for fun,

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<v Speaker 1>and another five hundred for like paying down bill, so

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<v Speaker 1>he has like his own system. So but yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like at this, you know, but you saved me money,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't mind, you know, because if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>for him, I'd be paying an additional fifteen thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>real money, like actually writing an additional check for fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars because I pay taxes, doesn't get withdrawn from

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<v Speaker 1>my paycheck.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you watch a profit?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I have one?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you watch the profit on SANBC?

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched some of it, like I've watched like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>and why, I've caught a show or two.

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<v Speaker 2>What it's good Marcus lamonas he's just like this billionaire

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<v Speaker 2>who goes around helping struggling businesses while he scoops up

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<v Speaker 2>like forty to fifty percent of the equity in the process.

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<v Speaker 2>But now it's fascinating. It's like you get to watch

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<v Speaker 2>these businesses fail and he shows them what they're doing wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I learned a lot to learn a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more about business. I like it better than

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<v Speaker 2>Shark Tank. I feel like it really shows you the

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<v Speaker 2>day to day operations of running a business and what

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<v Speaker 2>can go wrong when people let themselves get in the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Shame No. I like I free Plug.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen like. I saw this one where it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a cookie lady and her son and that was

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<v Speaker 1>so good. I remember that one. I felt bad for

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<v Speaker 1>he because she said like a bad deal where someone

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<v Speaker 1>was going to own ninety percent of her company and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, how is that legal? You know

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<v Speaker 1>that you signed away ninety percent and she didn't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, I remember that one. Okay, maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 1>watch it more to get some more inspiration.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a recent one where it was a Atlanta

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<v Speaker 2>based company, so shout out to them. It was what

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<v Speaker 2>are they called Southern Comfort Foods or something they do

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<v Speaker 2>like Southern foods prepared and it's this it's a young

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<v Speaker 2>African American woman and her mom together running this business

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<v Speaker 2>out of the Squarehouse and they were part of Oprah's

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<v Speaker 2>favorite things and they had all this early sex and

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<v Speaker 2>then they were all of a sudden struggling, and turns

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<v Speaker 2>out that she has signed up for these short term

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<v Speaker 2>business loans, which I've been learning a lot more about recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you, I don't know if you've ever been in

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<v Speaker 2>a place, hopefully not where you've had to consider short

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<v Speaker 2>term business loans. They're terrible products. I mean, they are

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<v Speaker 2>really expensive. First of all. Sometimes the repayment terms are

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<v Speaker 2>like a week, a month, two months, six months. They're

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<v Speaker 2>really short term. And because there are such short term loans,

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<v Speaker 2>they put crazy interest rates on them, like double digit,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, forty percent. She had a forty percent loan

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<v Speaker 2>that she took out originally for fifty thousand dollars. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a balloon to like hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's nuts. And these products are out there, man, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>the more that we write about small business loans or

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<v Speaker 2>business loans in general, the more I'm just like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been wasting my time writing about payday loans like

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<v Speaker 2>business loans and merchant cash advances, these nasty products. That's

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<v Speaker 2>where it's at. So if you're out there and you're considering,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or if you have or you're considering, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taking out a business loan. I would love to get

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<v Speaker 2>more questions about that kind of stuff, because that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like young entrepreneurs can easily make like really

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<v Speaker 2>expensive mistakes that can haunt them forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I could see that I have.

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<v Speaker 2>I have it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the only one I ever took out was

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<v Speaker 1>from my ex boyfriend. He was the worst because.

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<v Speaker 2>You took out a business loan for your ex.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look though, this is like when I very first started.

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<v Speaker 1>We had just broken up, Like I broke up with

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<v Speaker 1>him because I was like I knew I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>pursue more in life, and I knew that he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be like barefoot and pregnant. But we tried to

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<v Speaker 1>remain cool for like two years, two or three years

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<v Speaker 1>after breaking up, and so he lent me money, like

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<v Speaker 1>to like buy like a laptop and stuff cause I

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<v Speaker 1>had lost my job at the time, so and then

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<v Speaker 1>to also helped me stay afloat with my with my

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<v Speaker 1>my my condo at the time. But meanwhile, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>really is it lending money because or is it payback?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I for six years we were together, I was

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<v Speaker 1>young and foolish and he was younger than I was,

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<v Speaker 1>so while he was in school, I was working, So

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<v Speaker 1>I used to pay for all the bills, so he

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<v Speaker 1>lived with me. I bought a condo, pay no mortgage,

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<v Speaker 1>pay no electricity, no water. I mean it was to

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<v Speaker 1>a point where he was literally like my child. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why I broke up with him is

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<v Speaker 1>because I remember one day we went to go get

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<v Speaker 1>like ice cream, and like, he ordered his ice cream

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<v Speaker 1>and walked away, and I remember thinking, like, what is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, I was like twenty eight or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, did I just bring my son

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<v Speaker 1>to get ice cream?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought like wow. I remember it was such

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<v Speaker 1>a good lesson because it wasn't all his fault. I

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<v Speaker 1>had turned it into this, you know, because I was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little older than him. I was like two

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<v Speaker 1>or three years older than him. I'm a little older

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<v Speaker 1>than him, and I'm more established, and when he gets

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<v Speaker 1>more established, he's gonna contribute. And it got to be

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it got to be bad. I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was so bad, only the only kind of bad that

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<v Speaker 1>you could do when you're in your twenties. I mean, Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>we used to go out to dinner, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>put money on the dining room table so he could

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<v Speaker 1>put in his wallet so we'd go out to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked like he paid. It was I know it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told myself, never eva again. So you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>my shock and surprise, you know. So he quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>let me money after we broke up for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a laptop, and maybe it was like three or

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred dollars, And of course I'm struggling to pay

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<v Speaker 1>it back because you know, I'm broke, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a job, so I you know, the business is doing

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<v Speaker 1>was doing. I can't even say okay. But then he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like demanded his money back because his new

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend needed a purse and he wanted to buy it

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<v Speaker 1>for her. Can you imagine it took everything in me

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<v Speaker 1>to be like kick Rocks, dude, like you owe me

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<v Speaker 1>your life, like you lived with me like a child

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<v Speaker 1>for like four years, and I paid for everything. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I said, I didn't want him to

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<v Speaker 1>have any tie to me, so I gave him a

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<v Speaker 1>little punk four hundred dollars back. But yeah, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure he and her get to enjoy watching me skyrocking

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<v Speaker 1>my way to the top. But no, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe that he asked for the money back and

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<v Speaker 1>had the nerve to tell me he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>use it to buy her a coach bag. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember being like, yo, I'm like eating and you

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<v Speaker 1>want you want your four hundred dollars back. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just it just was another like confirmation of

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<v Speaker 1>why he was not the one, the two, or the three,

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<v Speaker 1>and now Superman is the exact He's the exact opposite. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>although I make more, we live off his income and

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<v Speaker 1>save and invest. Mind, So it feels nice to have

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is a giver and not a taker.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen, right, Yes, you know what?

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<v Speaker 1>We forgot to hit up the social street.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're right, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So actually just one really cute one which I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was great. This young woman tweeted us. Her name is

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<v Speaker 1>Mish and her Twitter name is at the Underscore Tamish

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, praise report, I just made a final

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<v Speaker 1>payment on a personal loan. Exclamation, exclamation, so thankful for

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<v Speaker 1>the resources. An inspiration game from the b A podcast

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<v Speaker 1>cash Haag is a journey. I love that. And she

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<v Speaker 1>has this meme of like her with like this money

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<v Speaker 1>bag on her back and it says payment. I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought that that was awesome. Now paying off a loan

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<v Speaker 1>is it's honestly, it's awesome and so and then she

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<v Speaker 1>shout us out. She was like, if you're looking to

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<v Speaker 1>increase your financial literacy to be in a community with others,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, check out the Buganista and Brown Ambition. So

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>What was her name or her handle?

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<v Speaker 1>Her handle was at the Underscore t a m I s.

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<v Speaker 2>H tell me at girlfriends, yes, and if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to go to the Praise Report or just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to tell us it was so awesome. You

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say whatever. You know, you can tweet us.

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<v Speaker 1>We are at the b a podcast on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>And on Instagram. We're at brann Ambition podcast all one

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<v Speaker 2>word and I wanted to give a shout out to

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<v Speaker 2>our Instagram follower nothos and a not Chosen Day. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>she says. She shouted us out. On another podcast page.

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<v Speaker 2>She was asking for people to list their favorite podcasts,

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<v Speaker 2>and she says more hashtag brown Boost for the Budgetnista

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<v Speaker 2>and Mandy on at Brown Ambition podcast. Their podcast is

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<v Speaker 2>so beautiful and the Black Girl magic is so real.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I was like, thank you, you love us.

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<v Speaker 2>I love when they brag on us to other on

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<v Speaker 2>other people's pages.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I know. That is kind of fun. I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't write it, she wrote it. I'm just here

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<v Speaker 1>to gloat.

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<v Speaker 2>And one more from if this Instagram slash listener If

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<v Speaker 2>These Kinks Could Talk, she says, she posted her own

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<v Speaker 2>post shouting us out. She said, has should I get

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<v Speaker 2>your Financial Life Brand and Vision podcast. Thank you, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for creating this podcast. I learned something new

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<v Speaker 2>every day. If you're looking for financial guidance, check out

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast. Too Beautiful Soul sharing great information for free

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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine. That's how you know she listens because she

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<v Speaker 2>quotes one of your sayings.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I love the silmory love it now. That's awesome. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good little transition into brown boosts or

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<v Speaker 1>brown break. What's your finna do?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna boost this week me, So you want to

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<v Speaker 2>go first? Very optimistic? Yeah, I'm late. I'm late to

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<v Speaker 2>the party, but I'm going to do my boost this

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<v Speaker 2>week for YELP cash back. Oh I never heard of that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's been around since twenty seventeen, I started doing some

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<v Speaker 2>research because I wondered how long it's been since I've

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<v Speaker 2>been out of the loop. But Yelp, if you order

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<v Speaker 2>food on Yelp, because you know, you can actually order

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<v Speaker 2>takeout or delivery through the app, I think in most cities,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely in New York, and if you get enrolled, you

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<v Speaker 2>can earn up to ten percent cash back just for

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<v Speaker 2>ordering through the app. You link a credit card and

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<v Speaker 2>they just once a month deposit money into your account,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just awesome. So it's kind of like ebates,

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<v Speaker 2>but specifically for Yelp, and I've been using it ever

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<v Speaker 2>since we moved to our new neighborhood. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>restaurants near us participate, And yeah, I just made like

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<v Speaker 2>five bucks cash back on our dinner the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just checked my bank statement and I made

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<v Speaker 2>another two dollars cash back from Yelp. So it adds up.

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<v Speaker 2>And the beauty of it is that, at least in

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<v Speaker 2>my experience, so I have a cash back credit card

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<v Speaker 2>where I earn three points when I order from restaurants,

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<v Speaker 2>when I when I go to restaurants, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes these these like restaurant and food apps can be tricky,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes they do trigger the three points for restaurants

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<v Speaker 2>spending with credit cards, and sometimes they don't. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was just double checking because I was thinking, Man, if

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<v Speaker 2>I make five percent cash back by using Yelp cash

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<v Speaker 2>back plus three percent cash back by using this rewards

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<v Speaker 2>credit card, then I'm just almost saving ten percent of

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<v Speaker 2>my dinner, which is pretty dope. So I double checked

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<v Speaker 2>with my credit card and my Yelp grub Hub. They yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it counted as three points for every dollar I spent,

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<v Speaker 2>so I basically earned eight percent cash bag. Just dope.

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<v Speaker 1>That is dope. Honestly, cash back is like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the chocolate icing on a yellow cake. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>just get any better than that. It's the extra chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>chip in the chocolate chip cookie, an extra chocolate chunk

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<v Speaker 1>in a chocolate chip cookie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the pineapple jam and a Dominican birthday cake.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa, it is the.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl on your on your ding dong.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the strip in your in your in your payea. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like, I don't know when when people

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<v Speaker 1>don't decide it for cash back programs, I'm like, so

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't like money, so you just don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like money. Oh okay, No, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't even require that much work exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so awesome cash back programs like ebays, this

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<v Speaker 1>Yelp cash back. It's just literally live your life like

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<v Speaker 1>link whatever you have to link, and they live your

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<v Speaker 1>life and enjoy the fruits of your labor. So that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dope. And it's not something that I'm not shopping

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<v Speaker 2>to get the cash back. It's just like one I'm

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm gonna order from this trushaurant anyway, maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna use Yelp to do it, and maybe I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>a little money back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I'm saying exactly. Well, my Brown booths are

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<v Speaker 1>two people, one Brown Boosts for Damon Young. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever heard of Very Smart Brothers?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I love that website. They're really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>They are really funny. And he is I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say he's the CEO, but anyway, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a memoir coming out like he's super smart, super funny,

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<v Speaker 1>super woke, young Brown ambition and young man. And his

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<v Speaker 1>book is called What Doesn't Kill You Makes you blacker,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm like, thank god, I a memoir in Essays

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<v Speaker 1>by Damon Young. Honestly, I feel like this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a New York Times bestseller and it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be everything. So I'm excited. He is. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be on HarperCollins and so yeah, so fun facts, which

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you know what I'm gonna say it.

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<v Speaker 1>So remember I told you that the doctors the TV

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<v Speaker 1>show reached out to me.

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<v Speaker 2>The doctors, no, but yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like I said it maybe like an

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<v Speaker 1>episode or two ago. So anyway, the doctors reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to me, which is like, you know, one of these

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<v Speaker 1>daytime talk shows and like, you know, my dad loves it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so why do they reach out? And they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Damon Young, we saw your article in the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times about post traumatic broke syndrome. Would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>come on? I said, my name is not Daman Young.

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<v Speaker 2>But wait you snatched it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, but you know, I said, my name's not

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<v Speaker 1>Dami Young, but you know, like I mean, you're free

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<v Speaker 1>obviously to go with Daman Young. But this is Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>but I too talk about financial education. They're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>grandma on girl. So the lady wrote me back. She's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a DreamCatcher. I knew about you. She's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking about both of you and him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess when I press enter to you, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, so thanks Damon.

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<v Speaker 2>So is that why you're giving him the brown boos

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<v Speaker 2>because you feel guilty?

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<v Speaker 1>I do, and I'm like, sorry, but David honestly is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>He is like or slaying and yeah, just like living

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<v Speaker 1>his best life. But I just thought that was funny

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, oh, I didn't write that article,

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<v Speaker 1>but I could certainly speak to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, we need to have him on

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<v Speaker 2>the show because I think post traumatic broke syndrome is

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<v Speaker 2>a is. I don't even know what it is, but

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I suffer from it, so I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to talk to him about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, but you know what, I know people who

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<v Speaker 1>know him, so you never know. Maybe I'll reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to my connects and the thing to think I do.

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<v Speaker 1>And my second of brown booth is a the first

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<v Speaker 1>black woman to earn her PhD in nuclear engineering from MIT.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see this?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No?

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<v Speaker 1>So her name is Maria Marina Robinson Snowden. She became

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<v Speaker 1>the first black woman to earn a PhD in nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>engineering at MI T. MIT is like the smarty smarty

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<v Speaker 1>smarty school. It's like the school for the smarty smarties.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I just like like, According to her, her

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<v Speaker 1>degree was a culmination of eleven years a whole secondary study.

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<v Speaker 1>She was often the only black woman or a black

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<v Speaker 1>person in her nuclear engineering classes, but she took them

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<v Speaker 1>as an opportunity to represent and shine. And she actually,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was so sweet, this is why representation matters.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, I had a picture of Catherine Johnson on

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<v Speaker 1>my wall right after Hidden Figures came out because she

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the women. I don't know who played

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<v Speaker 1>Catherine Johnson and Hidden Figures Hudson, right, I think so,

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<v Speaker 1>And she said, because she was a role model for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, and I just thought that that was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like, people asked who her mole model was,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, you know, you pick and choose

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<v Speaker 1>from different places, and she was like, now she has

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<v Speaker 1>a tangible woman, Catherin Johnson, who was a mathematician and

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<v Speaker 1>a black woman killing it. So I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, and Marina Robinson and she is fly. So

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<v Speaker 1>you go ahead being the first black woman to earn

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<v Speaker 1>a PhD in nuclear engineering from MIT. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what you do with it, but I'm sure you used

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<v Speaker 1>to lay the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it sounds dangerous, so I'm glad that you're

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<v Speaker 2>on our side exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't forget that. SI cool. So that's my two great,

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<v Speaker 1>my two booths.

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<v Speaker 2>How positive we are today?

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<v Speaker 1>I know right, I don't know why because this weather

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<v Speaker 1>has be irritated. Question on, I'm sure we have some

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<v Speaker 1>great ones in the inbox. Anything good?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's get some questions. So if you guys want

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<v Speaker 2>to email us a question, you can hit us up

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<v Speaker 2>We love getting your questions, and this week we have

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<v Speaker 2>two great questions from some listeners. Question number one comes

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<v Speaker 2>from listeners Simone. Simone says, if you close your credit

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<v Speaker 2>card account and start to pay it off, does it

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<v Speaker 2>still add interest? My mom has a heavy balance on

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<v Speaker 2>a closed credit card and she needs to stop paying

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<v Speaker 2>the interest.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh child, if it was that easy, we'd all be

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<v Speaker 1>closed back right. No, girl, you will still have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay interests on that credit card. What it does do

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<v Speaker 1>is means that you can't continue to add charges, which

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<v Speaker 1>is good. But yes, like the credit card companies would

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<v Speaker 1>never because that's their bread and butter. They get paid

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<v Speaker 1>by charging you for still having a balance.

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<v Speaker 2>A better thing to do if your mom wants to

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<v Speaker 2>give herself extra time to pay off the card and

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<v Speaker 2>to save money on interest, is to look and see

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<v Speaker 2>if she qualifies for any good balance transfer options because

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<v Speaker 2>a balance What a balance transfer does is you open

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<v Speaker 2>up a different credit card with a zero percent intro

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<v Speaker 2>APR for twelve months or however long, and you use

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<v Speaker 2>that new credit card to pay to transfer the balance

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<v Speaker 2>from your old credit card onto it, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>have that period of time to pay it down without

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<v Speaker 2>having any interest. Because interest is what kills people because

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to get one step ahead, but then interest

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<v Speaker 2>is piling up and you're not actually making any progress.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would say look into balance transfer options. I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I can send you a link to a good page

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<v Speaker 2>with zero percent intro APR balance transfers. Just read the

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<v Speaker 2>fine print, because sometimes they say you have to you

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<v Speaker 2>have to actually complete the transfer within a certain number

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<v Speaker 2>of days, like forty five or sixty days in order

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<v Speaker 2>to qualify for the intro APR and then watch out

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<v Speaker 2>for deferred interest balance transfer options.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of sneaky. So they say we'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you zero percent for twelve months, what they mean is

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<v Speaker 2>in the fine print it'll say if you so much

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<v Speaker 2>as miss a single payment during that year, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't pay off the full balance by the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the twelve months, we're actually going to charge you

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<v Speaker 2>interest as if you were earning it for the full

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<v Speaker 2>year and tack it on to you to your transfer.

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<v Speaker 1>That sense don't make ident But honestly, I found my

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<v Speaker 1>very first well maybe not my very first, but I

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<v Speaker 1>found at the time of my balance transfer card actually

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<v Speaker 1>from magnify money dot com Woo woo, where Mandy works.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a great resource, honestly because you get to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I think I last time I remember, there

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<v Speaker 1>was like this sliding little like scale where you could

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<v Speaker 1>put in your your credit score and they would say

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<v Speaker 1>basically what you would be like cards that would be

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<v Speaker 1>good for you for balance trenchs or like you can

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<v Speaker 1>literally just a drop down menu like credit cards, which

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<v Speaker 1>credit card you are you looking for? You choose balance transfer,

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<v Speaker 1>you put in your your score, and literally sometimes Magna

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<v Speaker 1>Fund of Money will play you and be like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>ain't nobody giving you a balance tres for card? Which

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<v Speaker 1>I think is how Larry's But I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't think that's the exact language, but that's not.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's so funny. I was like, you know, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you got that, and then you know, but then if

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<v Speaker 1>your score is good, then you know, then it'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you like what cards would be more most likely to

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<v Speaker 1>get the yes from. So it's a really good resource.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to add a pop up video that comes

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<v Speaker 2>up every time someone has bad credit and puts their

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<v Speaker 2>puts their info, just of like your voice saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That, yeah, it would not be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that's a good point. Though. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>balance transfer cards do you require decent credit, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>mid six hundreds to get approved, So if you have

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<v Speaker 2>poor credit already, your options are more limited. But one

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<v Speaker 2>thing that you can do is look into personal loans

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<v Speaker 2>and use them to consolidate credit card debt, and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>also send a link because personal loans can be great,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's some bad ones out there, bad ones that

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<v Speaker 2>are almost as bad as payday loans. So we do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, a lot, a lot of reviews of different

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<v Speaker 2>personal loan companies, like every single one you can imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>So and we've actually found some good options for people

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<v Speaker 2>who have poor credit to so I'll I'll try and

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<v Speaker 2>post something in there too, But definitely, someone closing your

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<v Speaker 2>credit card is not going to fix it. It's only gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, put it out of sight, out of mind,

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<v Speaker 2>probably for you, but it's still going to be accruing.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell your mom to see if she qualifies for

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<v Speaker 2>any balance transfer options. And over and one last thing

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<v Speaker 2>with the balance transfer, So let's say it's only twelve months.

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<v Speaker 2>What you can do is set a reminder on your

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<v Speaker 2>calendar for eleven months and then say, okay, see if

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<v Speaker 2>you can qualify for another balance transfer option, and then

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<v Speaker 2>transfer that balance onto the new card, a different balance

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<v Speaker 2>transfer card. If you're approaching that twelve month period and

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<v Speaker 2>you look like you're not going to pay it off,

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<v Speaker 2>that's something that you can do as long as you're

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<v Speaker 2>not transferring funds to the same to a credit card

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<v Speaker 2>from the same bank. A lot of banks don't let

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<v Speaker 2>you do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, say, we got your girl, Well, we got your mama. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>When I learned about balance transfers, I was like, oh, hallelujah,

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<v Speaker 2>where was that when I was, you know, had my

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<v Speaker 2>little one thousand dollars student credit card and kept getting

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<v Speaker 2>eleven dollars finance charges every month. You can never pay

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<v Speaker 2>it down. Didn't know what I was doing then, But

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<v Speaker 2>when I know better, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you better exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how about one more question real quick? Yeah, let's

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<v Speaker 2>do it, Okay, listener, James, Oh hey, James, got a

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<v Speaker 2>man up in here.

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<v Speaker 1>What was our fake What was our guy name that

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<v Speaker 1>we had for Jamal?

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<v Speaker 2>Jamal? Yeah, we forgot about Jama. Yeah, I love that

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<v Speaker 2>named James. Okay. So, James says, I have almost fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars of student loan debt that I'm working to

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of. My wife and I have saved about

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and sixty thousand dollars, mostly saved by my

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<v Speaker 2>wife prior to our marriage. Other than our mortgage, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the only debt in our household. While discussing an

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<v Speaker 2>unrelated financial topic, my wife mentioned that she would be

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<v Speaker 2>hesitant to dip into one hundred and sixty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>long term saving for fear of weakening our long term

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<v Speaker 2>security to pay off that fifty thousand dollars of student

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<v Speaker 2>loan debt paying the student loan. If we paid our

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<v Speaker 2>student loan at the current pace we're on, we would

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<v Speaker 2>actually end up spending almost one hundred thousand dollars on

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<v Speaker 2>the loan after interest charges. Should we a fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars check and get that cleared up? Or just our

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<v Speaker 2>saving amount to pay it in installments? But attack it

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<v Speaker 2>with ferocity? This is an excellinquish it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, ooh, Jane, you sound like you're married to me,

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<v Speaker 1>So I too, I too, am a money hoarder because

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixty thousand dollars in cash and depending

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<v Speaker 1>on like what your lifestyle looks like. But for the

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<v Speaker 1>average person, that's really a lot of money to have

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<v Speaker 1>in a savings account.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if that's if and he didn't specify, but

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if that's like in a regular savings account,

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<v Speaker 2>or if he's including their retirement money in with that,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not you know, I mean, unless I mean

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<v Speaker 2>by all means you know, you can have that much

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<v Speaker 2>saved for the average person, I think it'd be a

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<v Speaker 2>little hard to imagine having that much in the bank.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if it's like, you know, a four one K,

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<v Speaker 2>but that that would change the answer a little bit differently.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe just for our questions, for our answers, we

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<v Speaker 2>can let's just let's just say that it's regular savings,

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<v Speaker 2>just like a regular checking a savings account versus a

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<v Speaker 2>four to one K.

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<v Speaker 1>So, well, one thing, I will so remember one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we learned from Angela that she said, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have the money to pay off an alump sum member,

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<v Speaker 1>you can negotiate down like up to fifteen fifteen one

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<v Speaker 1>five percent yep, saying hey, I've got it, So what

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<v Speaker 1>is what is fifteen percent? All fifty thousand? You know

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<v Speaker 1>how to do the massa good? Let me see, let

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<v Speaker 1>me get.

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<v Speaker 2>The five hundred. Ooh, did I do it right? I

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five hundred, seventy five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>So you could potentially save seventy five hundred by negotiating

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<v Speaker 1>saying I have a lump sum amount. So that's instead

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<v Speaker 1>of paying fifty thousand, you'd be paying minus seventy five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing on my part four forty two five, so

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be paying forty two thousand, five hundred dollars. So one,

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<v Speaker 1>you're saving that way, right. But two, my assumption is

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<v Speaker 1>that your student loan interest rate in this way you

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<v Speaker 1>can share with your wife is large. It's likely greater

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<v Speaker 1>than the interest that you're earning from your savings accoun

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say, for the sake of an argument, that

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<v Speaker 1>you have one hundred and sixty thousand dollars in a

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<v Speaker 1>savings account and it's yielding you right. I think right now,

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>allies giving you like well one point seventy five. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's like their interest rate and your student loans,

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<v Speaker 1>even on the low end, I highly doubt they're giving

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<v Speaker 1>you your interest rate with lower than this. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say it's four percent. So that means that you

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<v Speaker 1>are your student loans are costing you four percent while

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<v Speaker 1>your savings is only making you let's say about two percent.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're losing on that account. And then, like you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time you pay off your student loans that

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<v Speaker 1>you really have well have paid double So honestly, you

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<v Speaker 1>can share if you to me someone like your wife,

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<v Speaker 1>because I hold money too, because I'm I'm we have

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<v Speaker 1>way too much money in savings and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>let go of that. But what would help me is

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<v Speaker 1>to see the numbers in comparison, like, if we keep

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<v Speaker 1>the money here and work on and stay on your track,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what will actually be spending and have. And

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<v Speaker 1>if we if we make this decision and pay down

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<v Speaker 1>the student loan, that this is what we'll actually spend

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<v Speaker 1>in half. And what might help her is how quickly

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<v Speaker 1>can you get back to the one sixty because that

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<v Speaker 1>would help me a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, that's the question that our financial planners started

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<v Speaker 2>asking to help me get over that hurdle. Yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a hoarder. You know, this was the thing right before

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<v Speaker 2>we got Wait, when did I last summer? The summer

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<v Speaker 2>before we paid off and we paid off my husband's

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<v Speaker 2>student loan debt, it was about twenty thousand dollars and

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<v Speaker 2>that was you know, it was a joint effort, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the same position as his wife. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's and that's also a layer here that we haven't

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<v Speaker 2>talked about yet, is the fact that he says, it's

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 2>basically her money that she's say prior to their marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that that might be contributing to maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the little bit of a hesitancy, because when we paid

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 2>off my husband's debt, we were using money that I

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<v Speaker 2>had accumulated myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I got.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it wasn't it wasn't a huge mental block

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<v Speaker 2>for me using my need to pay off his student

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<v Speaker 2>loan debt, because I really do believe, you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you're married, you're you're you're merging finances, and his debt

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 2>was holding me back all of a sudden, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so I wanted to pay it off, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was eager to. But yeah, my our financial planner,

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<v Speaker 2>she started asking that question. Okay, well, let's be realistic. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it will put a dent in your savings now, but

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 2>how much longer? How much? How long would it take

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 2>you to get back to a place where you're replenishing

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>that And then she laid it out, oh, three months

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, six months or whatever, And then I'm thinking, Okay,

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 2>that's that's not that bad. It's not like we're never

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<v Speaker 2>going to start saving again. And if you got here once,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get there again. And I mean, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>would still have one hundred and ten thousand even if

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't get a fifteen percent discount, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you weren't able to you know, negotiate it down, although

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<v Speaker 2>you probably can, you'd still be left with over one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars in savings, which is phenomenal. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't you know, it's like TIF said, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to let the psychological hang up get in

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<v Speaker 2>the way of the pure math of it, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that it's costing you more money to keep the stet

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<v Speaker 2>on your balance sheet than it would be to pay

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<v Speaker 2>it down.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, move along, mass her to death. Just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, babe, honestly, here's some math. Here's some

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<v Speaker 1>more math. Here's a maths on top of math that

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<v Speaker 1>will help significantly. A friend of mine helped me with

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<v Speaker 1>that decision when we were deciding to buy the house cash,

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<v Speaker 1>because my husband was kind of like, well, it's up

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<v Speaker 1>to you, because you know, we were still really newly married,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like, that's your money. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>even though we were living off of his income, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, no, not really, because although it might

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<v Speaker 1>be my money we save and invest, Like if it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't for a living off your income, we wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>this money to save an invest But basically he left

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<v Speaker 1>it up to me, and so I called him a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of mine, Mark who owns he's a business owner

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<v Speaker 1>and owns several launder matchs in Charlottees and other businesses,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, what do you think you know? I

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<v Speaker 1>was asking my other like friends who are trusted their

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<v Speaker 1>financial advice, and he mastered me to death. Basically, he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, how quickly could you replace the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of your house, because I know you're nervous, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know, we did the math and I said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I could have this money back in my account in

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<v Speaker 1>under eight months, maybe sooner if I have a really

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<v Speaker 1>good month or two. And I said, he was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like it makes sense. It's not like it

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<v Speaker 1>would take you five years to get this money back

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<v Speaker 1>that within a year you'd be right back where you were.

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<v Speaker 1>And it helped me make the decision to yes, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's buy this home cash. So yeah, math is your

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<v Speaker 1>friend when you're afraid and you are suffering from post

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<v Speaker 1>traumatic broke syndrum, like me and Mandy math is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be your.

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<v Speaker 2>Friend, and consider if you don't, because sometimes when it's

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<v Speaker 2>coming from the person who wants some money, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand it, it's it's you love each other. But

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<v Speaker 2>it can be awkward and it can cause arguments when

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<v Speaker 2>you try to talk about money, even if you are

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<v Speaker 2>completely right, because I've been there, I'm always right about money, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but hiring a financial planner for a couple hundred bucks,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for you know, a couple hundred bucks, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to have someone look at our finances and then basically

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<v Speaker 2>tell husbe what everything that I had been saying. It

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<v Speaker 2>helped because it got it helped get have a third

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<v Speaker 2>party who was objective, independent, who you don't really know

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<v Speaker 2>so well, so you're not going to talk over them

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<v Speaker 2>and you listen like I feel like there was. It

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<v Speaker 2>really helped us communicate better, and we had someone who

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<v Speaker 2>was directing us versus us kind of arguing with one another.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, if you guys feel if you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you're not really if he's not really hearing you,

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<v Speaker 2>even when you bring the bring the math to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>After what Tiff and I have said, you know, consider

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 2>that as an option, you don't have to hire a

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 2>financial planner for forever. Get a fee only planner, you

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<v Speaker 2>know who charges you an hourly rate just to have

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<v Speaker 2>the same kind of conversation and see if that helps.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, so yeah, I think that's a really good

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<v Speaker 1>idea too. It is. That's why I ask you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I asked more because sometimes you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>It is hard to get past your own kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like wall, and it's hard to hear from someone. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like around the world are like rolling their eyes

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<v Speaker 1>because like somebody will tell me something and I'll come

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<v Speaker 1>home and be like, oh my god, superman. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking we should do this. He's like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'm like, did you you know I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>worst of that. I'm like, did you say that?

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<v Speaker 2>So were sounded better when someone else said it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah so yeah, so maybe you need to, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you are cool with her family, like tell my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, but yeah, those are really good. That was

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<v Speaker 1>really good advice. Manby.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you all right, well, thank thank you James, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for listening, get your wife to listen, bring her on

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<v Speaker 2>to the Brown Mission train. And to Simone, thanks for

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 2>your question too. Again, you guys hit us up at

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<v Speaker 2>Brownambission podcast dot com with your questions. We love taking them.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like you guys have been asking really

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<v Speaker 1>great questions. Sometimes I am always afraid every week, like

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:52.959
<v Speaker 1>are they going to be like the same questions? But nope,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, all these years later, you guys bring dope

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>and awesome questions.

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<v Speaker 2>So keep them coming, keep them coming, especially more. I

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 2>want more questions from small business owners and entrepreneurs. I

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>think that that's some of the most those are. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what I want to answer. That's what I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get into.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's oh yeah, yes, bring it on, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, miss Tiff, another fabulous show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and now it's signed to say goodbye to all

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<v Speaker 1>our companies. Name name that show, Mandy, let's see millennial.

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<v Speaker 1>Name the show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Mickey Mounce Club. This is why we need

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<v Speaker 2>insurance because you're gonna get a sued for the rights

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<v Speaker 2>for singing these songs I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't belong to us. Well, you know what, I only

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<v Speaker 1>did a line, and I think as long as you

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<v Speaker 1>sing it and we're not playing the actual recording, we

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<v Speaker 1>should be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, put me in my place.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy, I'm saying that, but I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds smart though, and you're not married to me,

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<v Speaker 2>so you obviously I trust you.

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<v Speaker 1>What I just said, that this is not from me,

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<v Speaker 1>well no,