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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Ziggura. Alright,

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Speaker 1: let's do Alive on the first Friday Miracle edition of

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Speaker 1: the program. I am merely Bo. You're on. He is

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Speaker 1: the great z Dude. What a time to be alive, dude?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Yeah? I look at this you're wearing. Can

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Speaker 1: we talk about this for a second. What you're wearing

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Speaker 1: right now? You look stunning. So for the longest time

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Speaker 1: we have I have seen in this building, um, people

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Speaker 1: you know walking around with fancy hoodies. Did nobody could

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Speaker 1: get We've been mocked. I've been You've been efforting for

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Speaker 1: what seems like nine months. Yeah you do, um. And

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Speaker 1: so I've seen all of this transpire and I feel

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Speaker 1: like we're it's almost the point now where the market

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Speaker 1: has been flooded a little bit with them. Um. And

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Speaker 1: so I just took banners into my own hands. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I know people who run clothing companies, and

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Speaker 1: I said, they have an NFL license, what do you say?

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Speaker 1: And so the good friends at Homage crushed it with

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Speaker 1: the run and elf it's ready to go. It would

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Speaker 1: be nice, but said Cleveland Browns Daily, Well, that that

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Speaker 1: would be next level. I don't know if they could

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Speaker 1: mask well, I think maybe they couldn't. Ask market those

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Speaker 1: nice little cherry set it up. So what I did

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Speaker 1: is I said, you know what I think, so you

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Speaker 1: will be able to buy these. I think August, you're

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Speaker 1: watching and it's right there living in color Dad, and

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Speaker 1: you're getting it right now. But I took care of you.

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Speaker 1: I took care of give a make sure that you

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Speaker 1: guys had had some gear. Tremendous human That's what I

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Speaker 1: take care of my friends. You know, we make sure everybody.

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Speaker 1: You know, you take care of you people. Um, what

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Speaker 1: I think would have been cool is if you gave

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Speaker 1: it to me, but then like just had it on

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Speaker 1: a dummy that was at the other end of the building.

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Speaker 1: I think that would have made a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: I think that would have been good, the idea on

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Speaker 1: a dummy, especially at the other end of the building.

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Speaker 1: That's your. Yeah, you can get a benefit out of

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Speaker 1: it because it's so far, but it's yours. It's here

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Speaker 1: for yours, right, No, there was, it's there for you.

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Speaker 1: It's there for you, but you can't. You can't wear it. No,

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Speaker 1: no benefits for you, benefits for you. You You just stay

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Speaker 1: right where you're at, but no in your mind that

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Speaker 1: that's yours. It's kind of like because I could see it,

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Speaker 1: could that, I could feel the warmth that it would

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Speaker 1: give me. Much like if there was a fan set

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Speaker 1: up in the parking lot over there, I would I

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Speaker 1: would maybe mentally feel the cold are because I could

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Speaker 1: see that it could see it's it's it's really mentally

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Speaker 1: wrapping your head. We're tricking your mind. What it is

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Speaker 1: you have to make you believe? I want to go

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Speaker 1: down this road today. I want to go down this road.

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Speaker 1: That's weird that you're getting defensive. I know why you're

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Speaker 1: getting defensive, right, What are you defensive about? Put you

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Speaker 1: to work all day tomorrow too? What do you defense?

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Speaker 1: I am doing work all day tomorrow as a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact, your version of a full day and everybody

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Speaker 1: else's version. God, buddy, listen, Pal, Remember, I think one

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Speaker 1: of my greatest contributions to your life, and I probably

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Speaker 1: have several, but I think my greatest contribution to your life.

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Speaker 1: You thought Pal was derogatory, It was right there that

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Speaker 1: one it was, no doubt, but you thought it was derogatory. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I love Pal, so I think it's a great fair.

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Speaker 1: It's an incredible term of endearment. It's you, it was,

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Speaker 1: it was. I don't know if you alone could have

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Speaker 1: convinced me, because you know, at times we can steal stories,

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Speaker 1: you can make things. But if you remember, it was

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Speaker 1: maybe one of the greatest tag teams of all time,

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Speaker 1: you and the great Coal also through an affectionate pal. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you together, that two of you, And then I

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Speaker 1: was like, Pal's in back, Baby's back in a big,

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Speaker 1: big way. But yeah, because it's really the way you

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Speaker 1: say it. It says a lot more than Pal. Oh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah, for sure. I think anytime it is

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Speaker 1: something that is uh, you know, written on a tombstone

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Speaker 1: of one William Billy Vonnie Billy the kid Pals has

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Speaker 1: he given up already? He's like, he's he's over. Did

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Speaker 1: you book a tea time? We have a flight? We

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Speaker 1: have logistics. There's no logistics. You're just getting on a plane.

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Speaker 1: You just drive over there. They put you on a tarmat.

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Speaker 1: Can you fly down? No? No, no, no no, no, that

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Speaker 1: what you're doing right as insulting to the Great Bryan's

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Speaker 1: who has gotten us all prepared and ready to go.

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Speaker 1: He's handled the logistics, he's booked the hotel, he's scheduled

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Speaker 1: the plane. Thing are you're just getting loading in its

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Speaker 1: stadium tonight? I'm currently dealing with that. You're loading in

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Speaker 1: its stadium. We don't play until Friday Giving. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: Mr Mellon is loading in tonight, so therefore we load

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Speaker 1: in tonight. Oh baby, I liked. I'm testing, testy, testy,

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Speaker 1: testing with a T proper t like when we uh

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Speaker 1: like eventually, when you know if we your weather delay

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Speaker 1: on Friday night, why would you eat to speak that

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Speaker 1: into existence? He's this is his new thing, he said,

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Speaker 1: I just want to film the girl's reaction. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: telling you something else, by the way, the idea that

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Speaker 1: can we take so much pleasure in your annoyance that

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Speaker 1: even something that will annoy him equally as much, he's

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Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice that just to stick it to you

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Speaker 1: on some sort of weather delay. I mean, think about

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Speaker 1: the incredible heel turn yesterday when he allowed Jake Trotter

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Speaker 1: to take credit for things that have been well documented

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Speaker 1: by me. The funny thing. And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I'm I might be mistaken on this, but in my

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Speaker 1: mind's eye, I feel like you de Earnest was here

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Speaker 1: before Jake was even I believe that you have that. Well,

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Speaker 1: he was here and I don't know Baker, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he was here, and year I remember

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Speaker 1: if Jake was year one or year two, Jacob. I

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Speaker 1: feel like we have been friends with Jake from the

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Speaker 1: second he got here and interviewing the Earnest when like

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Speaker 1: nobody even knew who the Earnest was in a training camp,

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Speaker 1: and I don't remember being friends with Jake, And if

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Speaker 1: around this show, anytime he'd like a microphone. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we know very well how you feel honest with you.

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Speaker 1: You're not You're not get no weather delay. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be afternoon. It's Florida, Florida. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a thunderst in his life right now. You'll feel like

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Speaker 1: him renting space. It's gonna feel like the world is

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Speaker 1: gonna end. It's gonna get dark, there's gonna be lightning.

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Speaker 1: because I'm gonna boy, and I'm in an environment to

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Speaker 1: you gotta hear the crowd noise? Did they get Lacey

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Speaker 1: an air conditioner. There's a vent in the back. Now.

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Speaker 1: I totally forgot this last year because I was trying

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Speaker 1: and I've totally forgot that. A pipe burst above us

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Speaker 1: But there's an there's a vent back there, but they

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Speaker 1: will not feel it. In the front row, you'll feel it.

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Speaker 1: I like that place. I haven't been in it in years,

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Speaker 1: but I do like the stadium, Like, yeah, it is

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Speaker 1: in like October November. It's awesome. Um, I've been to

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Speaker 1: the cocktail party. They're covered a lot of Jacksonville games

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Speaker 1: there when I was in Florida. I'm assuming it's been

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Speaker 1: than that, I think it's good. It is the most

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Speaker 1: frustrating thing is like they just the city doesn't even

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Speaker 1: and you're struggling to find somewhere to go at eight

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Speaker 1: am for a one o'clock kick. Well, so there's a Truman.

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Speaker 1: So when I was down there covering that, that was um,

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Speaker 1: that would have been Brunnell Taylor like that into David

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Speaker 1: cocktail party there, and that's a different animal. And that's

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Speaker 1: something that when they put that team in Jacksonville, they

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Speaker 1: makes no sense. Who represents more at the cocktail party? Smith,

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Speaker 1: it's legit. Split counts. The count's already it's talking. I

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Speaker 1: saw him in the cafe the other day. I said,

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Speaker 1: that stadium. Well, which is crazy because when I was there,

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Speaker 1: they never won Florida one like nineteen out of twenty years,

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Speaker 1: and then George has been really good in the last

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Speaker 1: ten years. Florida sucked after urban Um. But no, it's

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Speaker 1: awesome and the party afterwards is great, and so I

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Speaker 1: It just isn't something that they've been able to land

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Speaker 1: school it is not I've sat in the upper deck, yeah,

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Speaker 1: is no bad seat. True, it's really good. It's good

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Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me at all. I mean, we have

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Speaker 1: a trophy in here. We won that one. This was

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Speaker 1: biggest crowd, highest attendance percentage home and away combined. Browns

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Speaker 1: games ninety nine point two, Patriots second, five, Rams one

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Speaker 1: never they didn't spend much time on the play. It

425
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Speaker 1: was number four. A lot of coaches was mostly coaches

426
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Speaker 1: number four. I think it was a four or five

427
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Speaker 1: is a single digit number. Receiver caught a lot of

428
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Speaker 1: the balls that were happening, and I don't think Jamison

429
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Speaker 1: Williams is involved yet, Like I'm surprised. And to introduce him,

430
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Speaker 1: I saw he's wearing nine. He called staffords that he

431
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Speaker 1: could wear it. But um, so I assume that that's DJ.

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Speaker 1: That's I thought so, But I again, I don't know

433
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Speaker 1: if because we haven't gotten you know, we haven't gotten

434
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Speaker 1: into that yet with the with the Detroit Lions. But yeah,

435
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Speaker 1: very coach focused, very good. The other thing that I

436
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Speaker 1: would say is that is a markedly different training camp

437
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Speaker 1: from ours. Do I mean they were decapitating each other,

438
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: that's correct, And then he gives the speech about why

439
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Speaker 1: it's necessary in his view, and then he's emotional saying

440
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Speaker 1: all I do is think about you guys, That's all

441
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Speaker 1: I do. And I was like, that is so different,

442
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: so different, and listen, you can win both ways. Of course,

443
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Speaker 1: this isn't. This isn't something where it's like this is

444
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Speaker 1: the only way. There's a million different ways to win

445
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: in this thing is a lot different than this. I want.

446
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Speaker 1: I just am so curious to know, like where they're

447
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Speaker 1: at health, wise because just some of the clips they

448
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Speaker 1: showed were for like head hunting hits, like hits that

449
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Speaker 1: you would probably get certainly get a flag for. There

450
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: was one where receiver went over the middle and got

451
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Speaker 1: absolute smoked by his own teammate like that, in this practice,

452
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Speaker 1: I think you'd be throwing I didn't you be out?

453
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Speaker 1: You're done, You're not, You're not doing it anymore, no way, no,

454
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Speaker 1: how so, yeah smoked. I thought that was an interesting thing.

455
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Speaker 1: And you go and you look at the approaches the preseason, right,

456
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: the Rams played nobody, they win the super Bowl. That

457
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean playing nobody guarantees you in the super Bowl.

458
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Speaker 1: It just means that this time of year, however, you

459
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Speaker 1: prepares how your team is gonna go after it. And And

460
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Speaker 1: I think for a Lions team, it makes some sense

461
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Speaker 1: to get like that and have that sense of urgency

462
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Speaker 1: because you know you're coming off of what were they

463
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Speaker 1: two and fifteen three and fourteen, three and four. You

464
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Speaker 1: don't want to start slow again. And they remember they

465
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Speaker 1: lost a lot of stupid games and a lot of

466
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Speaker 1: close games. A lot of close games. Yeah, they were

467
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Speaker 1: in a lot of them. They had just weird things

468
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Speaker 1: happened to him like field goals at the Tucker one

469
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Speaker 1: after the fact that he is in the fourth quarter

470
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Speaker 1: and overtime he's fifty eight for his last fifty eight. Yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: Like that's nuts. That is a ludicrous stat There was

472
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Speaker 1: something that Campbell said, it's funny. I tell it to

473
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Speaker 1: the intern Stevie take notes. This is important. I always

474
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Speaker 1: said this all my interns and he said it last

475
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Speaker 1: night and it was spot on. You have to be

476
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Speaker 1: honest to yourself and who you are. That was an

477
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Speaker 1: incredibly authentic view into Dan Campbell to coach, he's not

478
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Speaker 1: changing who he is, and he even talked about that

479
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Speaker 1: with his staff, like with the with the one coach

480
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Speaker 1: had had the long hair and he was gonna cut

481
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Speaker 1: his hair and no, no no, no, that's who you are,

482
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Speaker 1: Like I'm highering that, Like that's critical whether you do this,

483
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Speaker 1: whatever you do, you gotta be you. You can't put

484
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Speaker 1: on some act because eventually the act is viewed as

485
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Speaker 1: as one that is fraudulent. It's not fraud You are

486
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Speaker 1: who you are, and clearly from the Deuce Staley school

487
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Speaker 1: thinks that's exactly who is. Do you feel like and

488
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Speaker 1: this struck me watching a lesson. I think they kind

489
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Speaker 1: of look somewhat the same. Obviously Staley is a little

490
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Speaker 1: thicker they feel. I feel like they conduct themselves d

491
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Speaker 1: I feel like Douce Staley and Steve Smith like may

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Speaker 1: share some type of d n A, like there is

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Speaker 1: holy hell they have to be cut. I didn't put

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Speaker 1: that together until you said it, and then as soon

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Speaker 1: as you said, before you even said Steve's name, that's

496
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Speaker 1: who I said. I didn't even think about it last night.

497
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Speaker 1: I'm like, this is what Steve Smith would be doing.

498
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Speaker 1: It's exactly what he would be doing. And if they

499
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Speaker 1: were on the same staff, I feel like they would

500
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Speaker 1: end up like Glenn Aaron. Glenn is a calm, really

501
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Speaker 1: calm dude, like when he was mocking like his writing, Yeah,

502
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: you're not writing anything, and he's like, why are you

503
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Speaker 1: circlings like like a vulture. I'm just circling you because

504
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna die soon. Like dude, Saley, I think at

505
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Speaker 1: one point would want him to fight because where else

506
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Speaker 1: is he gonna get the Yeah, it's funny. I don't know. Um,

507
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Speaker 1: I have no idea, you know, none of us know

508
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Speaker 1: any idea. I like them, I like their team before

509
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Speaker 1: all of this, I like their team anyway, I like,

510
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: I thought that they could take a step and maybe

511
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: I think they're definitely clearly better in Chicago, and I

512
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: think they have a chance to be better than Minnesota.

513
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: We'll see, but this is this is potentially be an

514
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: all time hard knocks. It's important to thing about the coach.

515
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Speaker 1: The last time that I felt like a coach was

516
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Speaker 1: featured that much and and it turned out I think

517
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Speaker 1: to almost maybe end his coaching cruise Mike Smith in

518
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta one where you're like, this guy just is

519
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Speaker 1: zero rutal, but he was everywhere. He was everywhere and

520
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: always felt like they We're like, hey, hey, look this

521
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Speaker 1: ain't it. This is not gonna work. This was the

522
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Speaker 1: opposite very much. It was great, really really good. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, we have an idea of who you

524
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: will see from the Jacksonville perspective on Friday night. We

525
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Speaker 1: will get into that a little bit, hopefully by the

526
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Speaker 1: end of the show. Have a pretty good idea who

527
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Speaker 1: we're going to see for us. We're taking a break.

528
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Speaker 1: We're gonna do it right now. What a banker for

529
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Speaker 1: us been trying? Thirty minute bomb? Did he get his takedown?

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Speaker 1: His notes? That's the most important note I can give you, Stevie,

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Speaker 1: that's the most important note. Um. All right, so we

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Speaker 1: got we got a lot of fun on the program.

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538
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Speaker 1: time color analyst on the radio networks, Danny Long signed

545
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Speaker 1: the legendary Jim Donovan. You get Trevor Lawrence. You're gonna

546
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Speaker 1: get Trevor Lawrence, buddy, and we got him last year

547
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville for but you're getting him. I'm getting Yeah,

548
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: You're getting him. Yeah, I'm excited about it. This is

549
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: really cool. So you get Lawrence, you get Ettie in uh.

550
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson saying a couple others, some other starters are

551
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: gonna play on Friday as well, Peterson saying he's playing

552
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: to play them a couple of series, nothing to do crazy,

553
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: nothing too long. We want to get the field of game,

554
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: get him in there and get them working in game situations. Yeah,

555
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: I'm curious fun to see what ultimately our plan is

556
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: going to be and how the Browns are gonna approach

557
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: this particular game. And I'm hopeful we'll get that information

558
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: sometime relatively soon. But it wouldn't surprise me at all,

559
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: given the nature of this camp, given the nature that

560
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: every of everything that's happening like, it would not surprise

561
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: me at all to see Deshaun Watson, and it would

562
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: not surprise me to see some of the starters. I

563
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: think that you can probably everybody in their head if

564
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: you said, all right, here's eight guys that are going

565
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: to play, you can probably figure out who that would be.

566
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Speaker 1: But I think that because I think we want to

567
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: we want to play, you got to see some football,

568
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: and I think it's a good distraction for this team.

569
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's eight or not just

570
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: throwing out a name. But I think like people that

571
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Speaker 1: you would say rap and bubble rap, I think there's

572
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: probably a pretty good chance that you will see those

573
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Speaker 1: people in bubble Rap. Okay, I'm just writing down. Well,

574
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: we know you won't see Denzel. Uh No, No, I

575
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Speaker 1: just want to I just want to run my list

576
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Speaker 1: by you as you said that, Okay, um, I feel

577
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Speaker 1: like this is final answer. I rushed the last two miles. Jadevion, Chubb,

578
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Speaker 1: Denzel None. I mean I would imagine a Mari No probably,

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Speaker 1: I mean, my god, I wouldn't even have a Mari

580
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Speaker 1: do anything. I would literally put him on a treadmill

581
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: and that's I wouldn't even have him near a human.

582
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Speaker 1: Those are the names that certainly in the running game,

583
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Speaker 1: So then that those would be the five that I

584
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Speaker 1: would say. No, I was I almost put Jacoby on it,

585
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Speaker 1: but I'm not. I don't know how this is gonna

586
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Speaker 1: go with because I don't who knows what's going to

587
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: happen with you, Sean. We could have finalities. I wonder

588
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: if Jacoby and and Deshan will be binary, like you're

589
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: only gonna put them out behind a certain offensive line. Yeah,

590
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: so if it's a DeShawn, then maybe they wouldn't beach Kobe.

591
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: If it's Jacoby, then there wouldn't be de Sean like

592
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: it over extend the reps of the wine the other

593
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Speaker 1: three I thought of, And this is where it got tricky,

594
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Speaker 1: Like I would, I don't think Conklin, you haven't done

595
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Speaker 1: anything nothing, So he's not Joel. Do we need to

596
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: see Joel? But I just wonder if you, if you

597
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: if Watson's in there, you probably want Joel in there.

598
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 1: But because they're going to play their guys right there,

599
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: you do not need to see You don't need to

600
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Speaker 1: see it ninth year. No, No, clearly not all pro.

601
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Speaker 1: And then I put j Okay, but I don't know

602
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: about that. You want you Okay to play? You want

603
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: him to play? I think he wants. So who's the eight? No? No,

604
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Speaker 1: if we were eight, who would be your who would

605
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Speaker 1: be your eighth? If you you had no problem with

606
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Speaker 1: all of I said, yeah, if it was eight, I

607
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Speaker 1: would probably add. And this is solely based on what

608
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Speaker 1: happened on Monday that he didn't finish practice, or on

609
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: Tuesday he didn't yesterday. These days, I don't know what

610
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: Tuesday Greg didn't finish practice, okay, So I would Jay

611
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: okay and Greg out if if I were doing and

612
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: then another guy that I would consider as a possible

613
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: would be John. I don't think you need John Johnson

614
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: out there, but if you wanted to give it a go, yeah,

615
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: like a walks just coming back. Do you need a

616
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: walk out there for this? Probably not. I think you

617
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Speaker 1: know you've got. I don't need to see anything for

618
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Speaker 1: Miles Jadavion, Nick Chubb, Denzel Warda, Marii Cooper for the

619
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Speaker 1: entire preseason. I don't need to see Kareem either person

620
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Speaker 1: me personally. No, it's just yeah, no, that's true. Keep

621
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Speaker 1: Kareem out and then you just go get forward to

622
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: carries Ford and Dearnest you're right by the way and

623
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Speaker 1: John Kelly. Yeah that's true. Yeah you don't need him. Yeah,

624
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Speaker 1: I mean you're right, you got I'll be honest with you.

625
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: As much as from a content standpoint, I appreciate the

626
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: fact that Trevor Lawrence is playing, and it's different. I

627
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: think when you're younger, when you're older, I see the

628
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: value and that maybe I would probably if I were

629
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: running an NFL team, I'd be doing at McVeigh style,

630
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: I would have no interest in doing this. So in

631
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Speaker 1: the case of a Trevor Lawrence now with Doug Peterson,

632
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: and I don't know what their joint practice schedules this is,

633
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: and I don't even know if you're able to do this,

634
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: I would want to have as many joint practices as

635
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: I could, and that would be you know, I'd take

636
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, a few weeks, get everything installed, get us

637
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: where we're feeling good, and then joint practices all the time,

638
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: and then in the games, you know, like guys try

639
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: to make their roster and make careers for themselves. I

640
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: have never seen a joint practice practice. You've seen him

641
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: several times. Do they do a pretty good job of

642
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: taking care of each other the two teams. I know

643
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: that there's it can get chippy, but in terms of

644
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: there's no cheap right like everybody knows what the rules are. No,

645
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: and I I don't think we've ever seen give it.

646
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: We've never seen tackling to the ground and one of

647
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: those have we in a joint practice. I mean that

648
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: that first practice with the cults got awfully interesting. It

649
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: got chippy, but I don't think there was full contact

650
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: and even the Buffalo one where they embarrassed us, and

651
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: it became pretty clear the two thousand fifteen might not

652
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: be the season we had hoped it was going to be.

653
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: Gibby was being taunted, yeah, which were Yeah, Hey, Brown's guy,

654
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: Brown's guy. You guys gonna have a better effort tomorrow.

655
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: I was like, guy, depends if we're running Justin Gilbert

656
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: back out there or not. I don't know. Oh my god.

657
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: He had a rough go And that was when that

658
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: was quickly. Did you know he wasn't it pretty quickly? Yeah?

659
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: I mean when you don't even stay, when you're a

660
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: top ten pick in the draft and you don't even

661
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: stay in the league, Yeah, it doesn't get the attention

662
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: of some of the quarterback bus Well. It happened with

663
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: him and Johnny in the same draft, right, But Johnny

664
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: at least that you could see like there, like Johnny

665
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: had at the world. He could have been like a

666
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: Minshew guy or better like he had some of that.

667
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: He was never gonna be more than that, but there was,

668
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: but you could at least see some Yeah, you could say, Okay,

669
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: I can see how this guy could bounce around a

670
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: little bit if he had the right head space. But

671
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: like Gilbert, it was less to do with his athletic ability,

672
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: and it's on the field abilities that had much more

673
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: to do it. He just wasn't pro. Gilbert wasn't either,

674
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: So neither that. You just neither one. Yeah, he just didn't.

675
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: It's crazy, but yeah, that was. And that was the

676
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: other one too. I think I have the timing of

677
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: this right. Two thousand and fifteen, trill Prior was with

678
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: the Browns, right gibe when we were up there in Buffalo. Uh,

679
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: feel like that was sixteen sixteen was his good year?

680
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: Was he here two years? Don't let me look, I

681
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: don't the other guy will say about Jacksonville going back

682
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: to he was here in fifteen for sure, yea, I

683
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: was because you guys were down in Columbus and I

684
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: remember going. I remember doing live shots for CBS affiliate

685
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: down there when I worked at the time, and it

686
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: was the first time he was back in the stadium

687
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: because he was banned. So I was like, wait, Prior

688
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: is back in the stadium. He was banned from campus.

689
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: He could never be because he talked to after after

690
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: practice and he was he was awfully hot on that.

691
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: It was really hot on that turf um. The one

692
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: thing the Jags like, this is their second game. Yeah,

693
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: I mean they played their number one pick in the

694
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: draft last week against you know, so I did have

695
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 1: this right, troll Pryor was there in Buffalo and could

696
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: not get off the line of a scrimmage to run

697
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: a route against the Buffalo corners. Really, they just were

698
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: right up and he didn't have it. And I still say, yeah,

699
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: I had that right seeing that in fifteen at the

700
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: beginning of fifteen, and then the work that he put

701
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: in with Alexanders and Hugh to think that that guy

702
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: who couldn't get off, couldn't run a route like let alone,

703
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,959
Speaker 1: not get open, not catch it. He was not able

704
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: to get five yards off the line of scrimmage. Who

705
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: was their course, uh something White. Yeah, he couldn't get

706
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage against against this Bill's team

707
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: in fifteen and then two sixteen he has a thousand

708
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: seven yards receiving that. To me, his tells you about

709
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: the talent he had, but the work ethic that he

710
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: put in and what they were able to do with

711
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: him from coaching standpoint, in his own work standpoint, and

712
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: it never happened again. Obviously, goes to Washington, signs that

713
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: big deal. It never happens again. But if you would

714
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: have told me watching that or probably anybody there even

715
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: asked him honestly in the depths of his truth, are

716
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: you ever going to be a thousand yard receiver in

717
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: the NFL after that training camp experience? Not a chance?

718
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: And then he was, And that to me is incredible.

719
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: He might be the most He's on a very short

720
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: list of most mismanaged athletes from his from him going

721
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: to Ohio State and kind of what they didn't do

722
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: with him, what they had him doing, what they didn't do,

723
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: like he got no quarterback coaching none. I mean they

724
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: would run first two plays under center, the fourth plays

725
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: out of the shotgun run around. Makes something happen, that

726
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: was the offense. So too. Then a guy who gets

727
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: undone by an n C double a process and forced

728
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: to go pro because of because of the tat Gate nonsense,

729
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: which is baby stuff alongside it. Now, um, so you

730
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: have that happened. Then he so he goes to the

731
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: Raiders and and they nurture him along and then somehow switches.

732
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: I always thought it was so comedy when people say,

733
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: why can't he play receiver. Dude, he played quarterback only

734
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: his entire life life, his whole life, s was scouting

735
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: him as in sixth grade he was he was there

736
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: was a lebron of football field to Terrell Prior's recruitment.

737
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: It was known who he was at a very young age,

738
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: and and it was just about where was he going

739
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: to go? And everybody knew he wasn't gonna go too

740
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: far from home. So it was always you know, it

741
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 1: was West Virginia, it was Michigan, it was Ohio State,

742
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: it was Penn State, like that was it. Trussell got

743
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: the right guy. There was a glass manufacturer over there

744
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: that Trussell got close to. That's the guy who was

745
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: close to Prior. That's how he ended up at Ohio State.

746
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: But the dad or the grandpa, I think, loved Joe

747
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: paterno Um. But that was it, I mean, And so yeah,

748
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: he was all the things. So the idea that he

749
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: overcame all of that and somehow had a thousand yard season.

750
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: It's crazy. If you would watch that there, it was

751
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: honestly like, hey, Brown's guy, Like if GiB A was

752
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: trying to get off the line of scrimmage or one

753
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: of us really went out there with a press man

754
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: corner and tried to run a route we wouldn't get anywhere.

755
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: Like being realistic about it. That's what it was like.

756
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: And then a year laterly a thousand yards in league.

757
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: That to me some one of those incredible things I've

758
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: ever It was a great al Saunders maybe his one

759
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: of his finer coaching. I just talked to him, the

760
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: great Alsanders. He was in town for a dick for

761
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: meals and trim the Yeah, great Kansas City, right, the

762
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: work in Kansas City. I mean, the job he did

763
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: with prior that season is to get him ready. And

764
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: by the way, in that Dolphins game his second year,

765
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: he ran the wildcat for us because we really didn't

766
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: have a quarterback. Hold on a second, Hold on a second,

767
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull us up from the game. Looks because

768
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: there's something quarterback because we were out of quarterbacks three

769
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: weeks into the season. We've gone through three or four. Yeah,

770
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: Kessler started, Yeah, he was three. Kessler was the quarterback

771
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: that game. But then he got kind of like I

772
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 1: think he fumbled early in the game that they returned

773
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. So they designed a game plan to

774
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: compete with them in that one. In that game against Miami,

775
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: he had eight catches for a hundred and forty four

776
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: yards and then played wildcat quarterback four rushes twenty one

777
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown and also through for thirty He

778
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: was three or five for thirty five yards. He played

779
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: one games that game. So who's who are the quarterbacks? Kessler?

780
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: Well it was I can't imagine McCown r G three

781
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: and then Kessler, right, McCown was in the next sixteen

782
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: sixty was RG three, r G three You drafted Kessler? Kessler?

783
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: Was he? Who? Trust me? There was another one in

784
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: there because he Kessler was number three, I feel like

785
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: on the depth chart. Well whatever, whoever, it was number

786
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: three by week. So McCown was Kessler oh and eight,

787
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: McCown oh and three, RG three one and four. Here's

788
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: the crazy thing, like from put yourself in Terrell Prior's

789
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: head and you're looking at Cody Kessler, You're going, I

790
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: am a better quarterback than this. I promise you that.

791
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: You know, he's one of those guys that he comes

792
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: around in a different time. His whole thing is different.

793
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: We also had Kevin Hogan that year and Charlie Whitehurst

794
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: that's when we had a little game of Charlie white

795
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: Hurst where he went fourteen and four for buck eighty

796
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: two a touchdown in a pick at the peak of

797
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: his powers dating Jewel. Yeah, yeah, peak of his powers.

798
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: And that year, think about this, we were so bad

799
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. Crow ran for nine and fifty two

800
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: yards and average four point eight yards to carry, and

801
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: Duke average four point nine yards to carry and ran

802
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: for three fifty eight of his own crazy, crazy, crazy.

803
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: All right, lots to get you on the program today.

804
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, we'll go around the NFL lots going there.

805
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: Hopefully we get some update on what our team will

806
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: look like on Friday before the end of the program

807
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: here um, and so you have that to look forward to,

808
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: which is nice. She was to Cleveland Brown's Daily on

809
00:41:46,640 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland Cleveland Brown's Daily on ESPN Cleveland, h on

810
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: a just a quick let me make sure this is

811
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: we We talked a little bit yesterday about the new

812
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: like the college football landscape shifting a little bit, well

813
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: not a little lot, with that new Big ten TV

814
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: deal which they are approaching in an NFL way. It's

815
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: a very NFL process of on the networks split by

816
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: the networks, UM and so forth and so on. Jack Swarbert,

817
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: whosi athletic director at Notre Dame, was on a school

818
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: live chat was asked about the Big Ten's new TV deal.

819
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: He says, this is perfect for Notre Dame. We need

820
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: NBC to have more college Footballtimore effectively promote our games

821
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: and to talk about our games that have NBC be

822
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: seen in that light. So that was this that was

823
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: great for us. My theory is that it's also I'm

824
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: not saying it's likely. I'm not saying it's likely, but

825
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: I think it's I would not be shocked at when

826
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: the Big ten announces this new deal if Notre Dame

827
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: is also part of that. It wouldn't He's going to

828
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: be in the Big Ten. It's the it's now is

829
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: the time, and now is the time. Now is the time.

830
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: So and this this deal with NBC, to me, just

831
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: further pushes that. UM. And if you know, if they

832
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: want the Big ten to play, if they want the

833
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: Big Ten to add Stanfords, they have another traditional rival, fine,

834
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: they'll land step. That's fine, Stanfords good. That's not gonna

835
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: hurt anybody's feelings. You can do that pretty easily. Yes,

836
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: Arizona for Zago. Come on, I was listening to UM basketball.

837
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: It's had a few mote fleeting moments in football. It's

838
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: just not a market or brand that's going to get

839
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: it a great brand though. It's just basketball for us.

840
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: For us, it is, But I don't know that it is.

841
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: You know, we grew up out west, you know, I

842
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: don't know that everybody's still Arizona Wildcats from but but

843
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: hoops don't drive the bus, you know, hoops are That's

844
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Kansas is still in the Big twelve. Caroline

845
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: and Duke are nowhere to be found. They're gonna be

846
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: stuck in an a CC deal suck for the next

847
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: fourteen Arizona though, I don't know if Kansas, North Carolina

848
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: Duke have ever any point been number one in the

849
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: country and Arizona was in Sports Illustrated. I don't know

850
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: if they were in the AP. I had that in

851
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: my locker, had that Desert Swarm, Teddy Brusky, Christma Callister. Yeah,

852
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: that's squad. Kansas played in an Orange Bowl in the

853
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: last fifteen years. North Carolina was ranked in the top

854
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: five under Mac Brown in the late nineties. In football,

855
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: like Ron Curry, it's probably before him. I think it's

856
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: Oscar Davenport, Julius Peppers, um maybe Robert no no no.

857
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: Quinn was much much later. There was another defense dre

858
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: Bli gray Bli was on that team. Um, so yeah,

859
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: there's there's But anyway, I think that's probably how that

860
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: thing is gonna go. And probably what will happen is

861
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: if if that is the case, then the remnants of

862
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve, whatever's left, if they if they are

863
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: poached some of the bigger ones are poached by the

864
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: Big ten, then whatever is left will then moved matriculate

865
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: to the Big twelve. Why can't this is what I

866
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: would want? Why don't the teams that are not great

867
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: and football they don't move the need of football? Why

868
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: don't they like the teams that are basketball teams? Yeah,

869
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: why don't they form their own conference? Because they're never

870
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: going to move the needle in football anyway. And at

871
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: least now you have a super basketball conferences that would

872
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: get all the college basketball TV because they all want

873
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: their chunk of the football revenue. The football revenues the

874
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: hundred million, so they can't. They need the football revenue

875
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: to prop up the basketball even at places like Duke Carolina,

876
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: Kentucky like they need the football money. Yeah, that's the

877
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: way it all works. That's the economics of the whole thing.

878
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: But that's that's where that thinks. Answer those interesting. That's

879
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: first tithing birds Warbrick talk on the record about any

880
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: of that. All right, coming up at the top of

881
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: the hour, we'll go around the NFL landscape. Final hour

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900
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Speaker 1: get hope we get some insight into what our team

901
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: will look like by the time we get to Friday.

902
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: Hopefully here in the in the next day, so you

903
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: can kind of know, we know what we're gonna see

904
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: out of Jacksonville on Friday, to see a lot of

905
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: their starters. The number one pick in the draft played

906
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: in the game in Canton against the Raiders, so I

907
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: would assume we would see him again as well. Look

908
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: good too by the way he did. He had a

909
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: sack in that game and was able to Yeah, he

910
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: did look good, able to rush the pass or wins

911
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: someone on ones, which is what you want, because that

912
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: was one of the questions about Trayvon Walker coming out

913
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: was when you watch his tape, a lot of his

914
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: sacks were plays where he was either unblocked or you know,

915
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: kind of cleaned up into the sack as opposed to

916
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: just beating somebody and he was able to do that,

917
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: and you know, that will give a good test I

918
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: think in some ways for our guys, and we've talked

919
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: so much about, you know, seeing Jederick Wills out there,

920
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: this is a team that can get after the quarterback

921
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. Josh Allen has been a very productive

922
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: player from Jackson. They'll have him on one side, They'll

923
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: have Trayvon Walker, the number one pick in the league,

924
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: on the other side. And so I think that's gonna

925
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: be some good work. Whether it be Jed Wills on

926
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: one side, we won't see conflince. So whether it's Hubbard

927
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: and really his first action back, or whether uh it

928
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: ends up being a James Hudson, that's good work I

929
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: think for those guys when you go against Josh Allen

930
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: and Trayvon Walker, and then Claivan Chason was the first

931
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: round pick who was trying to get here. You guy,

932
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: was he drafted by Atlanta? I want to does that

933
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: make sense? It feels like you said sort of emphatically.

934
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: I would believe it if you meant it. It wasn't.

935
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: It's like emphatic. That's sixty six seventy. Yeah. Now they

936
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: get some dudes, they get this. Look you understood, I mean,

937
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: you go back. We telegraphed I was gonna go brutal

938
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: with Urban there. I believe we'd laid it out exactly

939
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: how it would go, and there was a couple of

940
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: ways for it not to go that way, and he

941
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: didn't do any of them. So it went exactly how

942
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: you thought it would go. Um, but you also understand

943
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: why somebody like him would take that job, did the

944
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: number one pick. You've got a lot of assets and

945
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: you've got some nice young talent. Sure, so you can

946
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: flip this thing quickly down there in a division that's

947
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: gonna get to be really winnable pretty quickly. I mean,

948
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: Deshawn's not in Houston anymore. You've got this, Uh, you know,

949
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: Indie's got Matt Ryan. So there's a window there and

950
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: it feels like Tennessee's window is closing. Jakes did draft him,

951
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: so it was twenty overall in the NFL Draft, But

952
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: that's another first rounder. Yeah, they've got a nice squad man.

953
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: Do you think about their pass rushers? Josh Allen, who

954
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: has been phenomenal for them, was their first round pick,

955
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: seventh overall in Kentucky. Kentucky guy he had seven and

956
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: a half sacks last year ten and a half as

957
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: a rookie. So, I mean, do you think about you're

958
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: talking about a number their edge rushers, their top three

959
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: edge rushers, number one overall, pick number seven overall, pick

960
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: number twenty overall. Pick. Yes, they've invested all sec guys too, right, um,

961
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: as we go around the league, the NFL is planning

962
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: a Black Friday game in three Amazon Prime will air it.

963
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: Give you points out. An interesting note here, the game

964
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: will be likely to be played during the afternoon, as

965
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: the league can't televise primetime games on Friday nights in

966
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: November as part of its antitrust exemption. Why why huh?

967
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: Come again, you're not on too bad? You don't have

968
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: a light. They're doing a Black Friday game. That's how

969
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: you're on. Stevie sad. I hate to see it. Yeah,

970
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: I've seen it, and I'm for I don't understand. Just

971
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: on Black Friday or they can't play prime time games

972
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: on Friday in November. It's not like college football is

973
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: on playing on Friday in November. They're trying to well,

974
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: they will, but it'll be you know, secondary games, third fourth,

975
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: you know it's not gonna be the top games aren't

976
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: gonna be played on Friday. The only thing is always

977
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: played on Friday going into Thanksgiving. It's usually it's either

978
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: Egg Bowl Mississippi State ll Miss, or it's and then

979
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: a lot of times l s U will play Arkansas

980
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: on that Friday. Usually l s U Arkansas at three thirty,

981
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: and then Mississippi State Ole Miss is the night game

982
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: on that Friday after thanks to Nebraska Oklahoma. No, it

983
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: was Nebraska Colorado. The Raska Colorado was a big Friday

984
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: Friday after Thanksgiving game was Nebraska Colorado Cache. You give

985
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: you the right time, right all the time. Um I,

986
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real honest with you. This is the

987
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: biggest product in sport at a in North America by

988
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: a pretty wide margin. I do think don't do too

989
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: much keep We're on a lot of days in the

990
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: National Football League. It's a lot, right, And I know

991
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: you want the piece of the pie from everybody with

992
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: the streaming and we're gonna run this here and we're

993
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: gonna get this streating money. You gotta be a little

994
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: You're running Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Yeah,

995
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's a little fatigue. It's a little fatigue

996
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: for me, Like I don't Sunday No, it's my face.

997
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: I just I'm not. I'm I'm tapped at that point.

998
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: Lets my team's in Sunday night, then I'm geeked. But

999
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: even if it's a great game, A lot of times

1000
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: I've watched so much football that you've been waiting, I'm not.

1001
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: You've been waiting all day. You've been waiting all day.

1002
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: You've been watching all day. You've been watching all day

1003
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: for Sunday night, and then you know, Monday's the sweet spots.

1004
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: So now you're running out of Thursday, You're gonna run

1005
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: out of Friday, and the we'll have more Saturday games.

1006
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: And now you've got you're expanding your European games that

1007
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: start at nine am. I mean literally, you're going from

1008
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: nine to eleven p on some weekends. Yeah, it's a lot,

1009
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: it's a lot. Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers believes limited playing

1010
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: time in the preseason is a waste. So he's like

1011
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas in that regard. Jose, how many we asked, Joe,

1012
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: how many how many practices do you need? Three? Yeah,

1013
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: by the way, it looked at when he was here.

1014
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: Three he's ready to go, right, might have been one

1015
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: or two right now. I told him, I said, look,

1016
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: we use an extra offensive lineman, kind of that blocking

1017
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: tight end. You could do that in your sleep for sure.

1018
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: For sure, Like if we were ever in the next

1019
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: five years, if we were ever in a Super Bowl

1020
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: and something were to happen to Jed Wills in the playoffs,

1021
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: he'd have to come out to like to the Rocky theme. Though,

1022
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you imagine him? What weight would

1023
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: he want to get too? Because he's lost a lot.

1024
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: What weight would he want to be at? I wonder

1025
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: if if like, let's say something you're saying this happens

1026
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: and you have two weeks to get ready, like thirty

1027
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: pounds on your boy, I would like to put you

1028
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: can't put his mind in a pretzel much, but like,

1029
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: if that happened in the a f C championship game,

1030
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: text him, text him right now. This is the question

1031
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: we want to know if there was an injury at

1032
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: left tackle in a hypothetical a f C championship game

1033
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: and you had two weeks to get ready for the

1034
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, what would your process be? Because I do

1035
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: think he would play in the game. That's what I

1036
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: want to know. I want to know what his process

1037
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: would be, because he would have one. I just would

1038
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: be curious, like would he load up trying to put

1039
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: on weight or would he go would he stay at

1040
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: his I mean, he's gonna want to put on some

1041
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: weight probably, but like he would, his strength would be

1042
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: his quickness and his technique, and his strength would be

1043
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: an enormous advantage. Plus it would be like the first

1044
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: gold jacket guy, if it's not this year, will be

1045
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: the first gold jacket guy to play while he has

1046
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: a gold jacket, which would be an amazing feed for

1047
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: the HOF. So I think that he I don't know

1048
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: that there for a weight standpoint, I mean, how much

1049
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: can you do in two weeks? Well, I he would know.

1050
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the human body

1051
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: calories in a day like we've But he doesn't want

1052
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: to be sluggish either, correct. You gotta find that happy medium.

1053
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: I bet he has an answer for it. Did he

1054
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: receive your Yeah? Not yet, I think he would. I'll

1055
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: tell you I saw his kick out there in flip

1056
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: flops on one leg. Whatever his technique is going to

1057
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: be fine. It would be like writing about the process

1058
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: would be fine. I think what he would be the

1059
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: most concerned about his throwing himself into the playbook and

1060
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: into the tape of the other team's pass rushers. I

1061
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: think that would be his number one focus. And I mean,

1062
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: if you can't, like at thirty pounds, I think he would.

1063
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: He probably would probably started much. I just want to

1064
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: see here. I'm curious what his answer would be on it,

1065
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: and hopefully we get gotta worry if you're Joe Thomas

1066
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: about burning it all off as quickly as you're putting

1067
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: it in your body. Joel Mantonio and he claimed this

1068
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: yesterday that he lost on to Sunday's practice, which was

1069
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: a heat or he lost ten pounds Joe did, Yeah,

1070
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: in one practice. Yeah, they said. Alex Maciu still would

1071
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: lose fifteen pounds with such a prolific sweater that he'd

1072
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: have to change his shoes out three times during practice

1073
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: because it would be like know when you stand in

1074
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: like standing water and you get the bubbles that's other

1075
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: shoes would be holy and they'd have to swap out

1076
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: the footballs and his pants because it's on the back

1077
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks throwing again brother. It's weird he didn't

1078
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: move to guard at some point just to avoid that

1079
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: he was so good at center um Rogers saying, I

1080
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: definitely don't see any benefit to playing one series. If

1081
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna play, we should play and play a quarter

1082
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: or a couple of series, two or three series. Just

1083
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: suiting up for four plays to me as a waste,

1084
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: perfectly said. I think he's right about that, and I

1085
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: think that he would say one series. It's more about place, right,

1086
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: So if you went on a ten play scoring drive,

1087
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: that wuld probably feel like, all right, I got some

1088
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: good work there. But yeah, that's where you're at. He

1089
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: also had a good comment about Jordan Loved that he

1090
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 1: really thinks things have clicked for Jordan Loving. He said, look,

1091
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: it took me three years for things to click, and

1092
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: and you know, I got a lot of criticism and

1093
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: scrutiny for it, and it's worked out well for me.

1094
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: And he said, it's with my success. My memory of

1095
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: the criticism is fated, which I thought was great. But

1096
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: Jordan loves an interesting guy. I think that he could be.

1097
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: I mean there, he Rogers staying there has afforded them

1098
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: the luxury of if they like the clay of taking

1099
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: the time to mold it to exactly their specifications. So

1100
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: it's really from an NFL from an NFL team perspective,

1101
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: it's the perfect way to do this. Sure they did

1102
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: it with Rogers and now there, we'll see if they

1103
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: can pull this off again. We'll see um all right,

1104
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: CBS Sports dot Com must see NFL rookies in of

1105
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: course this is at the top of the list. Remember

1106
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: why is it that? And we were wrong on Patrick Queen, right,

1107
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: it feels like right now we're wrong on Patrick Queen

1108
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: and love people still high on him. But like I

1109
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: remember going into the draft and loving Kyle Hamilton's and

1110
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: going it's just not Ravens, just not Ravens anywhere but there,

1111
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: and he's he's the guy. So he's at the top

1112
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: of this list of of rookies to watch. He's get

1113
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: Stingley on this scutter guy, David Bell on this list

1114
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: at number nine. Yeah, didn't he get roasted on some

1115
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: coverage the other day Stingley, No, Hamilton's maybe, I'm not

1116
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: too worried about it. He's a good player. Yeah, I

1117
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: mean he could. I mean in camp it happens. So Bell,

1118
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: he's saying the reason Bell is undrafted free agent. Didn't

1119
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: that same thing happened to the kid at in Dallas

1120
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: who was the All Pro last year digs. Yeah, he's fine,

1121
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: It'll be fine. Drake London on this list the receiver

1122
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: at the USC memory spend all that time on receivers,

1123
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: the guy that was on our list, and they say

1124
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: it was for the Bills. A rare cat that's not

1125
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: used enough. A rare cat. I like that a lot.

1126
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: Malik Willis in Buffalo. I have I've heard good stuff

1127
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: out of Sammy how out of Washington that he's looked

1128
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: pretty good. You've heard the most about his Romeo DoBeS

1129
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: or have hubs. We all talked about Christian Watson, but

1130
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: it seems like this guy's stealing the show. He's more

1131
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: apparently he's morph than Davante Adams in camp. Where's he

1132
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: out of college? No idea, I don't we in all

1133
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: the receiver Nevada boy, and all the conversations we had

1134
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: at receiver, I don't remember saying his name or Reva uh.

1135
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: And then our guy David Bell on this list A

1136
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: kind have been a backhanded compliment. Way by the way,

1137
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: David Bell on this list. Bell makes a list because

1138
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: he's a fascinating film versus athleticism case study. At Purdue,

1139
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: Bell was a downright stud tracking the ball, Duffield, check

1140
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: yard after catch, mastery, check route running. Yep. But he

1141
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: tested horribly and indeed he did. But to me, he's

1142
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: just to me, he's just a football player. Yeah, it's it,

1143
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: and he had great This is what I remember saying

1144
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: this when we drafted him in the show's leading up

1145
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,959
Speaker 1: to it. Why I liked him going into the draft

1146
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: coming out of it, how do you do when you're

1147
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: at Purdue, How do you do against the Buckeyes, how

1148
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: do you do against Penn State? How you do against Michigan?

1149
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: Those are the game That's what I want to know. Iowa, Yeah,

1150
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: Iowa one of the best defenses in the Big Ten

1151
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: in most recent years. He was great. He's great in

1152
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: those games. So if he can stay healthy, then away

1153
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: you go. And he was a big, big pedigree on

1154
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: him to coming out. Um this from Mike Tomlin. Um boy,

1155
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: he is trying his best with chicken salad. Here. Did

1156
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: you see the quote about how they're all playing on

1157
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: everything I'm reading out of Pittsburgh? Is that all three

1158
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: or just brutal, and that Mason Rudolph's the best. Yeah, Trabinsky,

1159
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: pick At Rudolph are all just brutal, especially the first

1160
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: two Trabisky and Pickt It had really really rough Camps.

1161
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: I did not like picking in the draft in any way.

1162
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: Um to me against Sam how was a fifth rounder?

1163
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: I like his arm more. I don't know what that was.

1164
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: Mag Neto easy, easy, Need you need those pipes? I

1165
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: need those pipes, pipes for electricity went through my body.

1166
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: Geno Smith's will get the start for the Seahawks in

1167
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: preseason game one. They are the They are the leaders

1168
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse with the c J s out sweepstakes.

1169
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: If you're if you're going CJ, if you're running out.

1170
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: Geno Smith and uh Drew Lock. Remember what I felt

1171
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: about Drew Lock? Not much. Not So those guys are

1172
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: the They're gonna be the deal there, all right. We're

1173
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: gonna hear from Perry and Winfrey, his availability yesterday, his

1174
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: thoughts on what he's seen from Miles Garrett, hopefully get

1175
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: an answer from the Hoff on how he would approach

1176
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: it with two weeks. I like the idea that we

1177
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: have this stuff to just throw at him. Yeah, what

1178
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: what's he doing? Is he on a plane? Maybe that's

1179
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: tomorrow tomorrow, Okay, so he should be around. You should

1180
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: be around, cruising around. Check out jacked Here by the way,

1181
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: this is Mark Caboli from the Athletic in Pittsburgh. That

1182
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: guy's what a human. Trabisky almost picked on back to

1183
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: back seven shot drills. Other two reps were incomplete. Over

1184
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: four just awful reps so far in the one session.

1185
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: Mitch over four with two picks, Mason two for two

1186
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: with two touchdowns, pick it over two. I'm telling you,

1187
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: I just think it's a That was an incredible rehabilitation

1188
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: of Trabiski for no real reason, like an association with

1189
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: Brian Dable and Josh Allen only we said it as

1190
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: clear as day could have been said. The best he

1191
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: can do after people watched him play football as a

1192
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in the league was one year, two and

1193
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,919
Speaker 1: a half a million to be a backup. Then bye

1194
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: after not playing football. It's two years, fifteen million dollars

1195
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: not playing football? What changed? You still have to play football,

1196
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: you do. That's an important part of playing football is

1197
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: actually playing it. We'll hi from Perry on Winfrey coming

1198
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: up next us going to clean the Brown m Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Perry and Win free available. What is this? Was this yesterday?

1211
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Speaker 1: Day before? When we hear from Perryan yesterday? I like

1212
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: that guy yesterday? Ye all right, here he is with

1213
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: some thoughts on what he's seen with Myles Garrett. Right.

1214
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: He's focused, He's always doing what he needs to do

1215
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: on and on the field. He's always having the right

1216
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: keys on the field. He's always doing what he needs

1217
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: to do. He's always going a hundred percent every single

1218
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: play and even in all drills, making sure that he's

1219
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: doing whatever you need to do. It to make the

1220
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: most of that drill. So just being around home with

1221
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: see how he performs and why he performs is because

1222
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: of the way he practices. So here's Perian on toning

1223
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: down the talking. Do we want him to let him live?

1224
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: He got to earn the right to talk, And I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1225
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: Like was always telling us, our mantra is all bite,

1226
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: no bark, So I don't feel like there's no need

1227
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: to be continuously barking or continuously talking. I feel like

1228
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: once the season comes and I started to bring that

1229
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: juice back and start to make players on the field,

1230
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: that's when I'll be back to doing all the antics.

1231
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: But I'm just right now. I'm just head down, just working,

1232
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 1: just trying to be the best player that I can

1233
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: be every day. So that's what I'm saying that Mantra

1234
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: is all bark, no bite. He's come in here and

1235
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: he has got a lot of tools. He needs to

1236
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: be more consistent with this technique, and I think when

1237
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: he starts making the plays, then you will be able

1238
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: to hear him. And I think that's what really kind

1239
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: of the hope's earned the right to go ahead and

1240
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: and talk, which is speaking of and this is a

1241
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: quick little tangent, because why not let's have a little tangent.

1242
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: Jamaar chase. Okay, I'm talking. I like it, love it,

1243
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: love it. By the way, he's earned the right. He's great.

1244
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: And Denzel fired back, and he had earned the right.

1245
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: And I know he kind of took a shot at

1246
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: Gregg's and he all he does talk well. I think

1247
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: at the end of your Greg's play will do plenty

1248
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: of it tucking. But I'll tell you what, knowing those

1249
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: guys the way that I do and know in that room,

1250
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: the way that I do. Here was there, here was

1251
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: their response. This is exactly how it should be. This

1252
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: is fun. This is why we play. They're good, We're good.

1253
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: Let's go. Yes, check ball, Yes, let's go, let's go.

1254
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: That's it. I think that you know, I see it, um.

1255
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: I see it in the youth, the youth stuff with

1256
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: the youth kids too, like you know, people like there's

1257
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: all these little kids want to do the gritty right,

1258
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: they scored touch. I don't care if they're boots. He's

1259
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: age or not. Black Cobra's age to be suotsy to

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Speaker 1: do something different. So he stands out like maybe we

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01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: get him doing the worm like great with boots. He

1262
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: a touchdown worm set him doing a worm the other day.

1263
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: He Bluey's back, so he's all excited for blue being back.

1264
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: Is that like a variation of blues clues? Yeah, let's see,

1265
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: this was him. This was who he was dancing to

1266
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: blue the other day. So he's got that. That's kind

1267
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: of like the backstroke. Yeah, he had that he was

1268
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: all excited about the other day. Um, so yeah, we

1269
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: do need to get him do life is great, just

1270
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: and just soaks it up. Great practice out of him

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01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: yesterday and all of his teammates the um their first

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01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: time out. But everyone's like, oh no, just hand the

1273
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: ball to the rep. Shut up. Yeah, if they're not taunting,

1274
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: let him have a little fun. You've been there. I haven't,

1275
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: or even if I have, guess what, it's hard to

1276
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: get there. It's awesome. I just have a great little kid.

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01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: Have fun, man, have fun. This is great. But I'll

1278
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: share with you in the break. It's not fit for

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01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: the air. I just cat with a great now. John's

1280
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: about really sums it up. But you can't share it

1281
01:05:54,440 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: on air. No, No, I cannot. Here's the deal. This

1282
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: makes it all more fun. Yes, this makes it more fun.

1283
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: We we weren't good enough for a better part of

1284
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: the last two decades to be involved in meanful trash talk.

1285
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: Right right. Some of the most fun that's happened in

1286
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 1: this division in the last two decades is Bengals Steelers

1287
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: Steelers Ravens right and John back and forth. Yeah, we're

1288
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: good enough now that we can do it. We're good

1289
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: enough now that the best receiver on the a f

1290
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: C champions our guys names are coming out of his mouth.

1291
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: That's right. That doesn't happen when you're not good. So

1292
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: that's awesome and this is good. And Denzel going back

1293
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: at him is good. This is what we want. Yes,

1294
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: and Denzel put together a beautiful video showing you know

1295
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: what happens getting a little pick six and how great

1296
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: that was. I loved it it. Uh, it is awesome.

1297
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: And again, in the bigger context, that's what's sad about this,

1298
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: is it. We were going to have the full enchilada.

1299
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: And I'll still hold on help it. Right now, it's

1300
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: at six games, but Week eight here Monday Night Football

1301
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: Bengals Browns battle for Ohio. The only game on television

1302
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: that night, Prime Time Under the lights like let's go,

1303
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: there's little juice in that game there. And by the way, folks,

1304
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: in professional wrestling or an ultimate fighting boxing, what happens

1305
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: in the ring is obviously exciting and you want to

1306
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: get there. But what gets you amped to see it

1307
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: as the build. So it's fun to have a little build.

1308
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: And it's fun that Jamar Chase is that good that

1309
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 1: he's going to talk about our guys, because that means

1310
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: he does respect them. Otherwise he wouldn't be talking about

1311
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: them and vice versa. That's a good thing. I love it.

1312
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: I loved that. I love the fact that it was

1313
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: it was said, I the fact that it was seen.

1314
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: I love the way that it was responded to. And

1315
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: I love the fact that it's yeah, some cop to

1316
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: let's go, you're good, I'm good check ball. I love it.

1317
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: I do too. It's so much more fun when you

1318
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: have It means you're relevant, man, you're in the mix.

1319
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: Is yeah, it's good. Uh, this is when de Sean

1320
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: plays for us and we are at as intended, as

1321
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: built as intended that that thing them down there and

1322
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: us up here is going to be something else. There's

1323
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: a funny thing. So they did their stadium naming rights.

1324
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: I think Tuesday maybe they did pay Course or whatever

1325
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: it is, so um they anyway, they so they did that.

1326
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 1: So one of the guys down there, I know they

1327
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: because they should just call it the Page Joe Burrow

1328
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: Stadium like that's that's because that is a real something

1329
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: that they're had. They gotta get sorted out. Well, that's why,

1330
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: because there's a ton of money in cash right now. Yes,

1331
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: there's a ton of money that has to be put

1332
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: into escrow to be able to do that, to to

1333
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: do the Joe Burrow Fund. I realized the field house

1334
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: is a purse certain type of building, and I know

1335
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: a dome is a certain type of building. But they

1336
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: should just call it the pake Coorp Jungle. That sounds

1337
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: way better than just Peake Wor Stadium. It's already known

1338
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: as the jungle, right, the pay Corps Jungle would Okay,

1339
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: that sounds all right. I can get my head around that.

1340
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: Don't you go from Paul Brown Stadium to pay Coort

1341
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: Pacor Stadium. That that doesn't do any tough one, but

1342
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: the pay Corps Jungle. No man, no man, no man. Yeah, yeah,

1343
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: you can play Welcome to the Paycorp Jungle. They play

1344
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: that song anyway for every game. Yeah. The most effective

1345
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,919
Speaker 1: use to Welcome to the Jungle was the Miami Hurricanes

1346
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: at the old Orange Bowl coming out of the spog.

1347
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: That was the most effective use of the jungle. Sure,

1348
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: by the way, you came over as if you were

1349
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: preparing and you looked over and you saw a guy

1350
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 1: who was at this screen and then came over to

1351
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: the mic in that pose, would you not say that

1352
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: he wanted to speak? Yeah, so what I That's why

1353
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: I did with big fans got bated breath. I also

1354
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: like from an entrance music standpoint, like enter standment in

1355
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech is I mean, if you want to do

1356
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: them ount rushmore, Welcome to the Jungle, Welcome to the jungle.

1357
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: The I have no problem with the understand man. Virginia Tech.

1358
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: Penn State does a combination of in the air Tonight

1359
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: into I think it's no no no no no no

1360
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: no no no no no no that thing we are

1361
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 1: Penn State. It goes from in the air tonight into that. Okay,

1362
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: that's good, that's a really good one. Um. The Bucks

1363
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: do Hell's bells jump around? Well that's fourth quarter though

1364
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin. That's not a runout from an entrance standpoint.

1365
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: I feel like anybody in Boston if they ran out

1366
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: that shipping out to Boston song, like, that's gotta go

1367
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 1: nuts if anybody does that. I mean, did the Patriots

1368
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: do that? Well, that's seventh inning, but like, did the

1369
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: Patriots run out to shipping up to Boston? That feels

1370
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: like a no brainer. I could see Belichick not being

1371
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: for that. Then somebody in Boston's got to have run

1372
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: out songs. Really, in the and the introductions, player name

1373
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:06,839
Speaker 1: by player name, you know you're missing the boat running outremendous.

1374
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: A running out is a tremendous hit. I think you

1375
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 1: almost do a situational song like Renegade. Obviously it's a

1376
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 1: tremendous situational song. But something just came across my timeline

1377
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: that is it good news or do I get Adam

1378
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: Schefter was on the radio Checkmark on one the fan, Yeah,

1379
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:32,760
Speaker 1: it's his audio on my station with Yeah, he's on

1380
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: every week with Rothman said that this is the direct quote.

1381
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: Here is the most likely outcome right now, and I

1382
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: don't believe it's close, is that Deshaun Watson does not

1383
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: play football. Ino well, listen, sources, Roger Dell wants me

1384
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: to suspend it for a year. Well, you appointed the

1385
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: guy you're seeking it. It's his guy this end. They've

1386
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: blown this blow in this in just epic. So is

1387
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. Of course, the idea that we're sitting in

1388
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: August and we're we're nobody knows and we got chefter

1389
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: going on local radio and Columbus and doing this and

1390
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: we're trying to guess. Like you, you assigned this guy

1391
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 1: last Friday Thursday. You assigned him with everybody to do

1392
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: exactly what you wished. So just do it, make it

1393
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: so and we'll deal with it. I was in a

1394
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: good mood. We're doing entrance songs. Sorry trying to you

1395
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: it's relevant, but I mean, gosh, sucks, all right, it's

1396
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: the worst, just sucks so bad. Um all right, defensive

1397
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: quality control coach and run, Dame Cordineer Ben Bloom'm gonna

1398
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: join us. Coming up next. You listen to Clean the

1399
01:12:49,880 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: Browns Daily on fifty in Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily sp

1400
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: N Cleveland. Okay, all right, welcome back to Clear the

1401
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 1: Browns Daily. Time Now for a little conversation. Oh I'm sorry,

1402
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I want you as you listen, just listen

1403
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: to his opening line. I mean you can obviously listen

1404
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: the whole thing because he's this is gonna be a

1405
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 1: lot of fun. But who does he sound like to you?

1406
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: And it's a comedian? Okay, don't don't give me any more.

1407
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: Let's just see if I can pick up on it. Uh,

1408
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: this will show, this will acknowledge that has we can

1409
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: acknowledge ruin the suspension of disbelief that you were talking

1410
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: to him live. Well, yeah, but if you were here

1411
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 1: and I was here, we love the audience, maybe we

1412
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 1: can you know you're in another place. Nevertheless, here is

1413
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: Z very happy to be joined by Blue Blitz. Listen

1414
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 1: joined now by the Brown's defensive run game contor, a

1415
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: great friend of the program as well, starting to become

1416
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: a regular, which we like, Ben Bloom And Ben, how's

1417
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: this training camp going for you? With everybody out here

1418
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: getting the pads on now and knowing that the first

1419
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: game is coming on Friday? First, Nathan, it's great to

1420
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: be on the show, so I appreciate it. But um no,

1421
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: we were off to a really good start. Um you know,

1422
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: I think the players are working hard it's exciting to

1423
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 1: be out here coming off a productive offseason. Uh, you know,

1424
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: the guys have some more familiarity with the defense, Um,

1425
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 1: familiar playing with each other and you know that show

1426
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 1: and early. We got a lot to clean up on,

1427
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: but we're building a good foundation. I'm just really excited

1428
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: to see him in action in the game versus Jacksonville

1429
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: as am I And let's start go the room. You

1430
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 1: spend most of your time with with the linebackers, with

1431
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: coach Tarver there. You know, Jacob Phillips, we've seen a

1432
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: lot of this year, especially Anthony Walker started off on

1433
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: the injury list. He's back now. But what's Jacob showing you,

1434
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: Because he's been tantalizing the last couple of years when

1435
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: we've gotten to see him staying healthy so far. We'll

1436
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: knock on what that continues. But what has he shown

1437
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: you in his growth here? Yeah, I mean Jacob is

1438
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 1: a really fun player to coach UM and he's you know,

1439
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: he's been doing a great job. He's a student of

1440
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: the game. He works extremely hard off the field. He's

1441
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 1: always prepared, UM and he does a really good job,

1442
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: you know, communicating out there and you know the things

1443
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: that he did in college and he's done his first

1444
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: two years here. He's you know, he's a long guy,

1445
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: he's got speed, he's aggressive, he's tough, he's always around

1446
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 1: the ball, and uh, you know again he's got stuff

1447
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: to clean up too. But he's you know, he's getting

1448
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: better and it's showing up here in camp and he's

1449
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: exciting to watch and fun to irunds. How was the

1450
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: wild man j Okay who made his debut His preseason

1451
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: debut was in Jacksonville a year ago. He ended up

1452
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: doing some covering guys in the slot blitz in doing

1453
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: it all, and he's doing it all out here, it

1454
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 1: seems like as well. Yeah, and Jeremiah's he's a pro.

1455
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: He's a mature, mature guy, and he's um working hard,

1456
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 1: and uh, you can really see the growth, you know,

1457
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: um in his you know, understanding of the defense and

1458
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 1: where he can you know, has opportunities to make place

1459
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 1: and he has great ustions in the meeting room. He's

1460
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: a really diligent NoteTaker. You know, those are the things

1461
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: you might not see on the field, of course, but

1462
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: and then on the practice field, he's you know, he's

1463
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: a playmaker and that's who he is. And the best

1464
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: thing is, you know, when he has a you know,

1465
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 1: not a great play and there's room for improvement, he

1466
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: really kind of knows immediately, hey, I could have done

1467
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,560
Speaker 1: this better, so what I should have done? And to me,

1468
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: that's a lot of growth because nothing's gonna be perfect,

1469
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,799
Speaker 1: but you start to see that maturity as a football

1470
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: player when you're not making the plays, but you know

1471
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: how to make them the next time. So it's exciting

1472
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: to see him work and uh, you know grow when

1473
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 1: you see kind of in some of those nickel packages

1474
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: when we've got Jacob and Jeremiah together, that speed is

1475
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: that it feels like one of the fastest linebacker tam

1476
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: is probably in the league. And what does that speed

1477
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: allow you guys to do on the defensive side. Yeah,

1478
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean we're proud of the whole room. I mean,

1479
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: all the guys we have can run and they work

1480
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: really hard. Jacob and Jeremiah they're fast. You know, we

1481
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 1: see it so certainly gives us u um, you know,

1482
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 1: the ability to cover people and blaz and run in

1483
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: closed space. So you know, that's what we do linebackers.

1484
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: You know, we have a lot of jobs in the field.

1485
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: Those guys can do all those jobs, and uh so

1486
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: can everyone else in the room. So you know, we're

1487
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: confident that you know, whoever's out there, we're gonna run,

1488
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: and we're gonna cover, and we're gonna blitz. So we're

1489
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: gonna tackle. You gotta guy who average over a hundred

1490
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 1: tackles for the last four years, three and Indi one

1491
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: with us and Anthony Walker Jr. Who would point out

1492
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: that he is fast as well Ransom track back in

1493
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: the day and was quite accomplished. What is having that

1494
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: veteran presence because we're a lot of guys are talking.

1495
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: We'll talk about then a second, but it's a lot

1496
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 1: of younger guys with an A Walks one who's really

1497
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 1: got the most experienced, tangible experience in the league. Yeah,

1498
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: I mean A Walks. He's a pro um. You know,

1499
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 1: he's a student in the game, ask great questions. He's

1500
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: got all that experience. So he's a guy that as

1501
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: a coach, you know, you gotta bring it every day.

1502
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 1: You gotta be saying the right things, have the right answers.

1503
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: And it's fun to be a guy be around a

1504
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: guy like that because, uh they can challenge you as

1505
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: a coach and that's a good thing. And then out

1506
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: on the field, he looks great, you know, run around,

1507
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, he finds the ball. Um. He can play

1508
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: every position, um, and in the linebacker group. So you know,

1509
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: it's it's a real Uh, it's a real benefit as

1510
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: a coach. I have a guy like that in the

1511
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: room's he's doing a hell of a job. And then

1512
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 1: the guy that reminds me, and you could tell me

1513
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: if you're if I'm right on this that if coach

1514
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: Tarver was able to go out and play right now,

1515
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: Siona Taki Taki would be have a lot of the

1516
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: same zest for the game, the pure joy of physicality

1517
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 1: and to play ball. You know. I love that kind

1518
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 1: of parallel between them. And maybe I'm not right about that,

1519
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: but I see that. And what's been like to be

1520
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 1: around Sioni, who is By the way, his hair is incredible.

1521
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 1: The mult's really coming in nicely. Yeah, the hair is awesome.

1522
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: Um and uh, you know, don't get it twisted. The

1523
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,759
Speaker 1: hair is flowing and nice. But he's a blue collar worker,

1524
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, so he's got that construction company mentality. UM.

1525
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, I do think you know, the violence and

1526
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: the competitiveness off the edge that you know s one has.

1527
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: That's certainly probably what I know. That's what coach Tarvert

1528
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: did when he was on the field back in the day.

1529
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: So all your assumptions are I think correct. But uh,

1530
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 1: as when he's you know sing, he's a really really

1531
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: humble guy. He's a great listener. Um, he takes coaching,

1532
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: he gets better, he's extremely accountable. He's a really fun

1533
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: guy to coach. And um, he's just a reliable guy.

1534
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 1: He brings it every day and um, we really trust him,

1535
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: and um it's fun being around him. How much is

1536
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: he enjoying getting to call the plays on defense when

1537
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,559
Speaker 1: he's getting some of that work at Mike. Yeah, he's

1538
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: done a really good job. You know, we we pride

1539
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: ourselves and our versatility. Like I said, Anthony Walker, he's

1540
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 1: been able to play every position for us, and he

1541
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: kind of sets the tone in that way as a

1542
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: vet and I think Cny you know, also a veteran

1543
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 1: presence in our room. You know, when he's had to

1544
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: play Mike, he's done done a nice job there. So, um,

1545
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: it's a testament to how those guys work, Um, how

1546
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 1: they learn the system, And uh, you know how much

1547
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 1: they care. So we're fortunate in the linebacker room. So

1548
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: that's kind of the big four, right, And then you've

1549
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: got a lot of young, hungry guys who have some

1550
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: of have been in the league, some have been with

1551
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: us in the past. Let's start with Tony Fields or

1552
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: draft pick last year. How is he progressing here in

1553
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: year two? Yeah, Tony has done a really nice job.

1554
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: He's a physical guy. He's competitive and you see it

1555
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: out on the field because he doesn't shy away from contact.

1556
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 1: He'll go get the ball. You know, he can run,

1557
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 1: he can cover, he can hit. Um. Those are the

1558
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 1: things we saw in his college tape and he showed

1559
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: last year in practice when he had the opportunity to

1560
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: do so. And uh, he's gotten a lot better practice

1561
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 1: to practice. He's correcting things and um growing and that's

1562
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: really all you can ask for. So I'm really excited

1563
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: about his future. He's a fun guy to be around.

1564
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: Willie Harvey has made some flash plays, certainly sit out

1565
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,879
Speaker 1: a couple of days here out of camp. Also tremendous

1566
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 1: on the basketball court. I'm told in a good talker,

1567
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: how's he kind of fitting in the room? And a

1568
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: guy who's kind of been in our program off and

1569
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: on for a few years, but has maybe a chance

1570
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 1: now to solidify that role. Yeah, I'm really proud of Will.

1571
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 1: He he's, um, you know, he's working really hard mentally.

1572
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: He you know, knows multiple positions and he's played you know,

1573
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: multiple positions with consistency. Um, he's got quickness, he's got speed,

1574
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: he's got a nose for the ball, he's got playmaking ability,

1575
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: and UM, I'm just I'm really proud of him and

1576
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: really excited when I get to watch my practice make

1577
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: plays and be consistent being the right place to do

1578
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: his job and just you know, be around the ball

1579
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: and you know, make tackles if we were allowed to

1580
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: tackle in practice and intercept the ball one weekend. So

1581
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 1: he's he's, uh, he's doing a heck of a job

1582
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 1: with this opportunity, and um, you know, he deserves all

1583
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,719
Speaker 1: the opportunity to you know, go out there and play

1584
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: and and put some additional good stuff on tape like

1585
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: he's already done in his career. It'll be fun to

1586
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: see him, certainly downond Jacksonville. And a guy who returning

1587
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, Dakota Allen, who we brought in this year

1588
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: was really a special teams guy down there. What has

1589
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: he kind of showing you in the linebacker room And

1590
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: somebody who was like I said, he's been in the

1591
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: league for a couple of years, a couple of different teams. Yeah,

1592
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: I mean Dakode is um. You know, he has some

1593
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: familiar familiarity with our system. So he came in and

1594
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: he uh learned stuff pretty quickly. He asked some really

1595
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: good questions and still is asking good questions now. So

1596
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 1: you know that he's got the right mindset. He's he's

1597
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: trying to learn, he's trying to get better. He's you know,

1598
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: played multiple positions already, you know out here. UM. So

1599
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: it just shows you that he's a pro um and uh,

1600
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: you know, he's got ability, and you know, I'm excited

1601
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 1: to see him play. How do you guys process and

1602
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: maybe in the meeting room or even after some of

1603
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: the sounds that Jeremiah makes in his exuberance on the

1604
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: field that sound in some ways like an animal, like

1605
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: a bird of prey flying around, calling around. How do

1606
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: you guys kind of that you process that? How do

1607
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: you and do great some of the sounds that he

1608
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 1: makes from time to time I mean, I support all

1609
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: sounds that help me make plays on the ball. So

1610
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: do you guys haven't fun in that room? Yeah, it's

1611
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: a great room. Coach Tarfer is uh surfic coach, great leaders,

1612
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: that's a great tone. Um, lucky to be in there

1613
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 1: with him and with those guys, and it's uh, it's

1614
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: a really fun group. It's a lot of humble guys

1615
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: who just love ball and love learning and like getting

1616
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: better and enjoy working together. So you couldn't ask for more.

1617
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: I know. You guys also just brought a new linebacker

1618
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 1: in the room actually on today's two's on Tuesday, wearing

1619
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: fifty one, just like Silas West. Also appears to have

1620
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: great hair. Young man out of cows and some time

1621
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 1: in Carolina and Washington. What can you tell us about

1622
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 1: our newest linebacker and what he brings this team? Well, first,

1623
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: we missed Silas. You know, he did a really nice

1624
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: job for us. You know, he's uh, you know, played

1625
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,720
Speaker 1: Mike and handled all the communication and was always doing

1626
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: things right and you know, improved atn and uh, you know,

1627
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: excited for his opportunities in the future. Um, but uh,

1628
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, thankful for his contributions to the group, and

1629
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 1: it was good to have Jordan in literally been around

1630
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: him one practice, but he was focused, he did the drills,

1631
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: he got better throughout the drill work. So uh, you know,

1632
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: we're looking forward to seeing him play. We know he's

1633
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: you know, a good football player. You know, he had

1634
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: he was in college, he has some experience in the league.

1635
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 1: So um, it's a good addition to the room. You know. Again,

1636
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: our scouting department, you know, does a great job bring

1637
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: guys in and building the roster. As the coaches at

1638
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: funds sometimes you have so much familiarity with you know,

1639
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: six of the top seven guys. Dakota comes in and

1640
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 1: and then now if somebody who comes in a day

1641
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: that is likely gonna play, I would imagine down in Jacksonville.

1642
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: Is that kind of a fun thing to get to

1643
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 1: coach somebody up that quickly and get them ready to play. Yeah,

1644
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's fun to say, hey,

1645
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: here's the call, here's the line up. Pure responsibilities. Don't

1646
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: give them too much. They're not thinking about a million things,

1647
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: but give them enough so they can go play and

1648
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: play fast. And you know, as as as you get

1649
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: through the walkthroughs and part and through the game. You know,

1650
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: you answer more questions, but you know, these guys are

1651
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 1: football players. You just gotta tell more to line up

1652
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 1: what their job is and help them with their technique

1653
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: and let them play, you know. So it's exciting to

1654
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 1: be able to do that um on short notice with

1655
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: the guy. And that's you know, that type of stuff

1656
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: happens in the regular season. That's our job to to

1657
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 1: you know, to coach them and get them ready. So

1658
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: it's cool, but we are lucky to have you and

1659
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: coach Harver doing just that. Ben Balloom, thank you very much,

1660
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: time and good luck on Friday. I appreciate you. Nathan, Uh,

1661
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: have fun. Okay, it's great. He's great. So he reminds

1662
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 1: me of the Star of Dave on f which is

1663
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: a hilarious show. Yeah, and it is great, and he's

1664
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: what did I say it was? It was it was

1665
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: a mix between you said the miss oh yeah and

1666
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: Pete Davidson, like a little bit of both because there

1667
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: was that kind of that the raspy I'm not as

1668
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 1: familiar with the Dave show, maybe one or two episodes. Good.

1669
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:21,560
Speaker 1: I watched an episode of Barry and Oh I like

1670
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: the building blocks. There's blocks. There's building blocks. Yeah, the

1671
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 1: first scene was a tough sell on the misses. Sure,

1672
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Speaker 1: so I'm trying to get her to kind of wrap

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01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 1: her head around. I think we're that. I think that

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01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: there will be He'll be satisfied with where it goes. Yeah,

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01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: like ms K totally fine with it. And at the

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01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: end of the day, while it is, I mean, she

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01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 1: watched Game of Throwing. It's like dark comedy. It moves

1678
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: more into me again, she watched Game of Throw. This

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01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 1: is this is kindergarten compared to compared to that. By

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01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:52,759
Speaker 1: the way, I said, I wouldn't be in on the dragons.

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01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be all in on the dragons. Why was

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01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: there any reason not to be in? It? Just was

1683
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 1: so upset with how the thing ended. Okay, and then

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01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm not big on prequel versus sequel. I feel like

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01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 1: I already know where this thing is gonna I do

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01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 1: know where this is going to end. Maybe we don't

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01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: know any like, So there's a lot in a broad stroke.

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01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: I just wish it was because it feels it's like

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01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: two years before Thrones, So I wish it was more

1690
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: like a thousand years before Thrones. But we're going to

1691
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: get into anybody that we know some Easter eggs. I

1692
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: think there will be sure, but a lot of stuff. Yeah,

1693
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 1: but no, it's going to be unbelievable. I mean the

1694
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: thing looks unbelievable. I'm excited for it. Yeah. You know,

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01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: the Rings thing is in September on Amazon Prime, The

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01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings, which is going to be incredible,

1697
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: to be incredible to so excited about that. By the way,

1698
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: do us a personal favor. Maybe they'll do all this

1699
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 1: stuff in football season. How about you wait for February

1700
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: when everything when nobody's got any going up. Maybe drop

1701
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: all this stuff in February. Why are you dropping all

1702
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 1: this stuff? They're gonna drop Yellowstone the new season in November, Like,

1703
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Why are you doing this? Stufs on.

1704
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: Somebody just said to me, Nate love everything Browns with

1705
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: that elphs is horrible, worst worst mask out of all time.

1706
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: No wrong, nobody like who does any that is from

1707
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: the first ever game brochure? Somebody doesn't like the ELP

1708
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: I did here, I did see the Uh you know,

1709
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:19,759
Speaker 1: a couple of our guys we were saying, like at midfield,

1710
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: put a dog at midfield. Um, like Honestly, I know

1711
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,560
Speaker 1: that people aren't fans of the dog thing, but like

1712
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: we haven't gotten it right, we haven't got that's it.

1713
01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 1: My kids would love the idea of the dog. Like

1714
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: there was some old merch that had like kind of

1715
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: a dog that was kind of mismanaged, but they were

1716
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: like all in, like they love the idea of a bulldog.

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01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 1: So that's but that's you know, it's got nothing to

1718
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 1: do with the history. It's got to be done right. Yeah,

1719
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: you gotta hit it, and it had not been. I

1720
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: mean what, I had one sweatshirt from when we did

1721
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 1: the new one that kind of looked I don't even

1722
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,560
Speaker 1: know what it looked like. Yeah, there's a way to

1723
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: do a dog. Let me tell you something, brother, there

1724
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: was a time in my life where I did a

1725
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: show and I had to say this to close it out.

1726
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: Every week we barked together in the Dog Pound Report.

1727
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: So much more to come. You listen to Cleveland Brown's Daily,

1728
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's Daily, ESPN, Cleveland in the Game Network and

1729
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 1: Choose and Clothes for Kids, Safe Travels Boys. Thanks brother

1730
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: to the j No, unfortunately, no updates on what's going on,

1731
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: and I guess we'll get that tomorrow laps in the

1732
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: pool tomorrow morning. No golf. I'm it's a business trip.

1733
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 1: I will not stand for that out of you. Let

1734
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 1: me tell you something, Pal, Listen, Pal, I'm not having it.

1735
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 1: Girl has got to be on his best behavior. He's

1736
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: making his debut. It wants to be the first and

1737
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 1: the last. It's an outrageously silly, silly and never stops.

1738
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: Look forward to use in you're giving me credit. Air

1739
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 1: Cigura's to put in a yeoman's effort this week. There

1740
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: we go, next level tomorrow Cleveland broads Day, Leave fifty,

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Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland, You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a

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Speaker 1: production of the Cleveland Browns and ESPN eight fifty w

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