1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: And I said to them, I'm going to be a 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: party prooper tomorrow. 3 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: All right, Okay, so, ladies and gentlemen, I would like 4 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: to introduce not only a great person, but a really 5 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: good friend of mine. And I'm really happy to have 6 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: another Aussie on the Racket Magazine podcast Samantha Stozer, and 7 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: sam Before you say anything, I just want people to 8 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: know we're actually in Miami and we're doing this interview 9 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: here and you're going to be playing another doubles final tomorrow. 10 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: So this has been a great week for you. And 11 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: also it is your birthday today. You are thirty five 12 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: years of ay, so happy birthday, and thank you for 13 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: joining me on the Recommencine podcast. 14 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 3: Thanks Dugsy. 15 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, you know a lot of people request certain people, 16 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: and a lot of people requested you on this podcast. 17 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: So and I think one of the glad I can 18 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: give the people what they want. Give the people what 19 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: they want, Sammy. But you know a lot of people 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: A lot of things I like to get across on 21 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: the Record Magazine podcast is people's real personalities are really 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: who they are. And I think people would not know 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: a lot about you because you're pretty laid back but 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: how well, how did tennis come into your life? Basically 25 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: kind of by chance? 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: When I was about eight years old and next or 27 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: a but gave me a racket for Christmas. And I've 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: got an older brother who's eight years older than me, Daniel, 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: And fortunately for me and for my younger brother, Daniel 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: looked after us a lot after school because mom and 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: dad ran a cafe, so he'd pick us up after 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: school on our bikes and we'd ride home. And then 33 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: I got given this tennis racket and we'd go down 34 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: to the park that was a few houses down and 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: there was five tennis court there and we just play 36 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: every afternoon pretty much and wait for mom and dad 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: to come home. And kind of went from there, and 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: I eventually got a tennis lesson at Memorial Drive in Adelaide. 39 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, or the original Brisbane tournaments played. Yeah, did you 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: play on grass or are you playing on the hard 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: courts there? And I'm not old? 42 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? And I had my little group lesson eventually, and 43 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: then got a private lesson. I remember after the first 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: group lesson, Mum and Dad have reminded me of this. 45 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: The coach was like, who belongs to this girl? And 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, what has she done? She's done something wrong here, 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: she's going to get in trouble. And the coach, Bruce 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: Wren his name was, said she should probably get some 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: private lessons. 50 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: Mum and dad were like, oh, he's just trying to 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: get more money is why would they even say that? 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: And so yeah, then I just got some private lessons 53 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: and played fixtures on the weekends as you do, and yeah, 54 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: just kept playing it. Absolutely loved it. 55 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: Okay. 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 2: So one of the things that people are obsessed when 57 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 2: it comes to you is the biceps. And I get 58 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: asked this question all the time, you know, what the 59 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 2: hell does she do? And I said, I think it's 60 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: pretty natural. Will you always like a little bit of 61 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: a rock as a kid, or did you like? Yeah? 62 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: I think I was always, I guess looked athletic and 63 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: pretty fit, even if maybe I wasn't back in the day, 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: but I probably was naturally like that. And both of 65 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: my brothers can gain muscle super quick. 66 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: So are your biceps bigger than your brother? 67 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: No? 68 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: No, no, no, really. 69 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: No sure, I think might a phase there in my 70 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: younger brother especially, or go through stages of like trying 71 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: to get a bit bigger and then he'll have competitions 72 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: with his mates about who can put on more weight 73 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: and then lose it quicker, and which is just ridiculous. 74 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: He's obviously got a very quick metabolism, so he can 75 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: just choose what he wants to do for periods. Yeah, 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: and but yeah, they don't really go running or and 77 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: they go out and have a hit every now, and 78 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: they don't do what you do. 79 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: No, they certainly don't do what I do. 80 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: And actually Christmas Day all three of us got out 81 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: on the court and had a little hit together for 82 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: the first time in I don't know how many years, 83 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: and that was actually pretty fun. 84 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: Did you have a good laugh there? 85 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: We did. 86 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: When you think about like growing up in Australia and 87 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff, were the people that you 88 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: looked up to from Australia or you know, were you? 89 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: I know who your idol is? Who can tell us that? 90 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: But did you think that it was even remotely possible 91 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: that you could be really good? Well, I mean when 92 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: does that hit? 93 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Probably like a twelve ish I would say I was 94 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: starting to think, oh, I want to be a professional 95 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: tennis player. But at the age of twelve I had 96 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: no idea what that meant what a life on tour 97 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: was going to be, or if there even was a tour, 98 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: because I just would watch from the old tournament on TV. 99 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: Like the Aussie Open, and that was it. 100 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: And like when I was in ninety it was ninety three, 101 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: so I must have been nine. Mum and Dad flew 102 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: all all of us, my brothers and them to Melbourne 103 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: for the women's final of the Aussie Open when we 104 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: were still living in Adelaide, and I watched Monica and 105 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: Stephie play, who were my two favorites, and I wore 106 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: my outfit to the match. 107 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: I had Stephanie's shirt. 108 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: I probably took my racket to who knows, and yeah, 109 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: I remember being there and watching that final, and so. 110 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: Stephie was your idol. 111 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I loved Monica as well, both of them, 112 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: and that was just the best day ever. And we 113 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: had this weekend in Melbourne just like our family, and 114 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: that was it. And then we flew home and then 115 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: that was it. So even from a really young age, 116 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: like that's what I kind of looked at and thought, oh, 117 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: that'd be pretty cool. And then as you get older 118 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: and you go to junior tournaments and you start playing 119 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: more everything just kind of goes the way. 120 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: You don't know any other way that it should be. 121 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: But everything kind of fell into place for me, So 122 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: I guess I was fortunate that one I kept playing, 123 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: because a lot of my peers in my age group 124 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: all stopped after juniors or very soon after. 125 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: Why is that? You think? It's just. 126 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: I think sometimes people just don't enjoy the lifestyle. Maybe 127 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: things get a bit harder, And I mean there were 128 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: certainly times through junior trips. My first junior trip to Europe, 129 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: I was fifteen in the eighteenth team. 130 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: I was way out of my depth. 131 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: I'd never been on a clay cup before, and the 132 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: first five weeks were on clay. 133 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: The week we're on grass, and. 134 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: I did not win a match. I didn't win a 135 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: set on the clay. I didn't win a match until 136 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: junior win wouldn't And it's. 137 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: Kind of funny I laugh about that now in my 138 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: head mentally, because I think you would run from a 139 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: grass court and you were so happy on a clay 140 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: court totally. But I didn't know what I was doing. 141 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: I was so young, but I just was in the yeah, 142 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: in that team in the upper age group, and that 143 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: was really hard. I remember calling home probably two three 144 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 1: times a day in tears and I want to come home, 145 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: and got really homesick and just wasn't enjoying it, but 146 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: stuck it out. 147 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: I did the whole ten weeks, like ten week trip 148 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: a long time. It's pretty hard. 149 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: But I actually think looking back now, maybe wasn't as 150 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: bad as what it felt like at the time. Yeah, 151 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: but it also probably taught me a lot about rezialience 152 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: and sticking it out and probably was Yeah, obviously a 153 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: really good thing for my career. 154 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: And then we did that. 155 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: I did that another year after and did a bit better, 156 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: but I didn't want to match at Roland Garros for 157 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: five years through juniors or like qualifying anything. 158 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well we'll get to Roland Garros, right, 159 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: Okay quite. 160 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Now, when I look back, I'm like, geez, wow, what 161 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: to turn around? But I just had never seen a 162 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: clay cup before. 163 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll get We'll get to that part of 164 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: your career and that part of your life in a second. 165 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: But one of the things that that I remember, because 166 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: obviously I know you pretty well, it was the first 167 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: time I saw you played fed cup and I hadn't 168 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: really seen I don't know if i'd seen you play 169 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: very much at all, if anything, And you were on 170 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: the team with me and you played your first singles match, 171 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: I had a little I went to your room the 172 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: night before your first round because I remember when I 173 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: first played my first fed Cup match singles. I remember 174 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: a feeling like I had an I was having an 175 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: outer body experience because it's such a different thing to 176 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: play for your country. And I remember thought, you know, 177 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to tell Sam how to play, but 178 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: I thought I might want to give you a little 179 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: bit of a heads up on how you're going to 180 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: feel when you walk on the court. And I said, 181 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: you know, this is a very different circumstance when you 182 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: play for your country, and you're going to feel like 183 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: you're a little bit not yourself. I don't know if 184 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: it was true or not, but one of the things 185 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: I remember was the first three to four games, I thought, 186 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: holy shit, this girl is so good. You were so composed. 187 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: You probably didn't feel it, you're probably shitting yourself, but 188 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: I felt like me watching you. I thought, oh, this 189 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: kid's going to be good one day, really good. Because 190 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: of the way you handled that moment. Do you remember 191 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: that moment I played Zuluwaga. There you go, Combi, Yeah, 192 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 2: how did you feel? How was that? 193 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: I was definitely nerve wracking. You lost, but I lost 194 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: six four and the third. But the way I played 195 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: and my composure and what I did, I think that, 196 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember it, so it was obviously an 197 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: important time looking back in my career that, Oh, even 198 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: in these big moments, I've got what it takes to 199 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: handle it, and obviously sometimes you handle it better than others. 200 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: But in a moment like that, playing for your country 201 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: and you've got your team on the side, and I 202 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: mean all of you, you, Pratty and Alisha were all 203 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: far more experience than I was, and I get the 204 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: chance to play. There's a bit of pressure there as well, 205 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: to you know, come up with the goods I guess 206 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: or not, you prove your worth in the team. So 207 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: I think that was great because I do remember that 208 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: and it was an amazing experience. And I've obviously played 209 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: many faed Cups since then, and yeah, been able to 210 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: handle that really well. 211 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were definitely one of the best fed Cup 212 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: players I've been around had seen play because you were 213 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: always great under pressure and it started at a very 214 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: young age, which made me think you can handle the 215 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: big time. So cut to you know, you're sort of 216 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: dealing with some injuries then right in your early twenties 217 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: and trying to make your way onto the tour. What 218 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: was the change in particular when you started thinking that 219 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: you should be better than what your results were showing, Like, 220 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: what was a period of time where you thought, all right, 221 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 2: I really can I should be much better than I am, 222 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: and I don't want to also forget that you also 223 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: had great success in doubles at that point with Lisa Raymond, 224 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: when a couple of Grand slams or was it three 225 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: with Lisa? Was it two with Lisa? 226 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: Two? 227 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: And two finals, two finals, one with a match point 228 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: which you made up for recently. But so how much 229 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: did that help you, that experience being around Lisa and 230 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: winning slams? And then how did that translate into singles? 231 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: Well, I mean playing with Lisa was massive because I 232 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: was young when she asked me to play, and now 233 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: I think. 234 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: She dumped me for you. She did, and I could 235 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: have so subject but we won't get her. 236 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: But I thought, geez, wow, what a what a privilege 237 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: to play with someone like that, she's dump for me. 238 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: I've got a nutscrew this up. 239 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: I like, sorry, Studsy, but I'm taking this. 240 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: And I had to stop playing with my partner too, 241 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: because I was playing with a really good friend of 242 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Brion Stewart and we just had our best result. We 243 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: made Semmis a Wimbledon, and we'd been doing pretty we 244 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: won Sydney that year, and we'd been doing pretty well 245 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: and we were both at koreahigh rankings in the top twenty. 246 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, this you know, legend 247 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: of the game asked me to play. 248 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: I was like, what do I do? Do I go 249 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: there because I. 250 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: Think what an opportunity, or do I keep playing my 251 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: friend and we're doing really well and see where that goes. 252 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: And that was really hard, this choice and decision to 253 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: have to make, and I ended up playing with Lisa, 254 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: and Brown was definitely a little bit upset about it 255 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: at the time. 256 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: Yes, I was fair enough, and I totally get it. 257 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: We've got patched it. We were all great friends. 258 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, the first four three four tournaments Lisa and 259 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: I played, we'd lost first round and I felt lots 260 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: of pressure playing with her, and you know, am I 261 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: good enough to keep playing with her. And I remember 262 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: we were in Sandy, I Go. We'd played, we'd lost 263 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: leading into the US Open, and she broached the subject 264 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: of stopping playing with me. And I remember sitting on 265 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: a little grass, little mound in San Diego. 266 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure she gave you one tournament to prove yourself. 267 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: We played two, Yeah, Diego, and I was like, no, 268 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: just stick it out tournaments. 269 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: Probably. 270 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: I was like, no, let's just go a little bit longer, 271 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: Let's just see how we go. And thank God, because 272 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: then we played the US Open and we won it. 273 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: And then it was like where did that come from? 274 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: And we were playing Panetta and Dementiev in the final, 275 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: and I was as nervous as what you could ever imagine. 276 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: But I do remember we one of whatever it was. 277 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: We're going into the third set, and I remember sitting 278 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: on that changeover and I said to Lisa, I've got 279 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: it now I'm going to start playing better. 280 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not going to be as nervous now, 281 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to play better. Did you lose the second set? 282 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 2: Did you? 283 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 3: We must have lost a second set. 284 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm thinking we won the first and then maybe got 285 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: kind of close and you got a bit nervous or whatever, 286 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I'm going to be good now. 287 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: And then we won the third set. It was like, 288 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: oh my god, I've just won a Grand Slam. I'd 289 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: won Mixed it Oi Open that year, so I kind 290 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: of had a bit of an experience like that, but 291 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: this was, I mean, even bigger, and you're away and 292 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: you know Arthur ashe so that moment actually was big 293 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: for me, even playing who knows maybe years later playing 294 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: the singles final there, because. 295 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: I've been in a big occasion and I. 296 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: Was you Why was it so big that moment? Were you? 297 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: I think because I distinctly remember. 298 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: Well, it was the biggest thing I'd ever won, obviously, 299 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: and you're on the biggest stage. And again I'm playing 300 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: with someone who I admired and tons of respect for 301 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: and admired and wanted again to not let the team 302 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: down because if it always like if we were going 303 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: to lose, it was going to be on me, and 304 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: I didn't want that to be the case. And I 305 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: really stepped up in that moment and we both played 306 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: great and yeah, remember it and. 307 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: It was incredible. 308 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: So we didn't start out too well, but then you 309 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: foung that Matt from that tournament. 310 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: Sorry, I think. 311 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: Then we won like our next three or four events 312 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: and beat you in a couple of those. I got 313 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: you once, and then we had a great career career together. 314 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: And then I got lime disease. 315 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, hold on, hold on. So I want to tell 316 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: this story because it's kind of funny, but not funny. 317 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: It's sexually kind of terrible, but it's a little bit 318 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: funnyt the start. So I'm playing against you at Wimbledon, 319 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: and you know, we're great mates and obviously very good friends. 320 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: Lisa and and we beat you in Eastbourne the week 321 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: before Kara and I Kara Black, Oh no, it was. 322 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: It was Coveta passion at that time. And I see 323 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: you in the locker room at Wimbledon and I go 324 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: to give you, I don't know, a handshake or something, 325 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: and then I noticed that you had this lump on 326 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: your neck, and I remember thinking, what the hell is that? 327 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: And you go, I know, right, what is it? And 328 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: I'm seeing the doctor know what's going on. And then 329 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: and then I ended up playing you. I think the 330 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: next day we played in the third round. Yeah, I 331 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: don't know, it was the third or fourth round, and 332 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: I went, you beat us, and I went to shake 333 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: your hand, and then I sort of looked at it, 334 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: and you went, I don't know if I want to 335 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: do because you had covered in this rash and everything. 336 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: It was so weird and you were kind of freaking 337 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: out a little bit, which is understandable. And then cut 338 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: to So that's Wimbledon July, and then US Open rolls around, and. 339 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: I'd been home after wimbled and I didn't play until 340 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: US Open because I went home and tried to work 341 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: out what was wrong was wrong with me because I'd 342 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: had a bunch of different tests done at Wimwood and 343 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: nobody could work it out. 344 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: But I was getting all these. 345 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: Different symptoms and things happening and injuries. 346 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: Just wasn't good. 347 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: And so I went home and they told that doctors 348 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: then thought I had rebella, and then I just thought, okay, 349 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: well that's happened. 350 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: That's what you and then I were living in Florida 351 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: at the time, so going home was not normal for you. 352 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: No, I went back to Australia. But then I thought, okay, 353 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: we'll stuff it. I'll go play US Open even though 354 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm underprepared, and I just need to get fit again. 355 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: I've lost all my conditioning and that's what. 356 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't take long to do that. 357 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: No, And I played singles there against Elise Corne and 358 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: I remember after three games I had no chance of 359 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: winning the match. 360 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: I was done. 361 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: I was exhausted, couldn't move, couldn't do anything. Lost that 362 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: and then stayed around and was training with my coach 363 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: and he was like, we just got to get fit again, 364 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And so we practiced a little bit 365 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: and then like, go on the bike, try and run. 366 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: Did that for like I don't know, a week or so, 367 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: still at the courts, and then. 368 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: We went out. 369 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: Well so you lost the doubles, yea. And then I 370 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: was out of the doubles at that time. And we 371 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: hit the town in New York City, because it's normal 372 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: after Grand Slam you go out have a couple of 373 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: drinks with your friends, but after the US SO Open 374 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: it tends to be maybe sometimes a bit bigger because 375 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: it's the last a long year. It's been a long year. 376 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: So we hit the town, We go out. I was 377 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: at the bar, we were ordering a lot of drinks. 378 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: We got a little unk, you know, being honest, and 379 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: we'll leave the bar. And you kept complaining the whole night, 380 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: Oh a rib, I'm a rib. And I was like, ah, 381 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: you're fine, Sam, you just got a rib out or something. 382 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: My chest was a bit, chest was sore, you're all 383 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: you know, all the shop and I of course thought 384 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: I was a physio that night, or a doctor would 385 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: have you know. I didn't even stay in a holiday 386 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: And anyway, I decide I'm going to give you a 387 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: bit of a back crack, right remember, and I've got 388 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: heels on, and you're like, you know again couplestone streets 389 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: in New York. Anyway, as we go back from me 390 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: trying to crack you back, you end up falling down. 391 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: And I'm attached to you if you can everybody time, 392 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: because you can't imagine. 393 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: We're standing back to back, back to back. 394 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: With our arms into blocked and you go stand back, 395 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: which normally you let go of my arms, but you 396 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: didn't let go of my arms. You just kept going 397 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: flat down and you went flat down on your face, 398 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: and I remember thinking, oh my god, I think you've 399 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: just broken your nose. You're going to have no teeth. 400 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: I rolled off your back and I looked at you, 401 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 2: and you looked at me, and you go, you go, 402 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: Did I hurt my chin? And meanwhile you've got this 403 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 2: big gash out of your chin, which I thought was 404 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 2: actually pretty good. I thought your teeth were all going 405 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 2: to be gone. So then you're not feeling good all 406 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: of a sudden. You went to the yes. 407 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: Didn't really want to look at us because they thought 408 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: we were just drunk, and so we left and then 409 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: woke up the physio and then explained to her, and 410 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: I think she just thought we were all a bit silly. 411 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: And anyway, went. 412 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: Back to hospital and then they did a couple of 413 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: tests and couldn't really come up with anything. So we left, 414 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: went back to the hotel, and ended up going to 415 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: somewhere else later. 416 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: It was like three days in the hospital, and yeah, 417 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: not knowing what was wrong. And I stayed in New 418 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 2: York for another couple of days, and then you flew 419 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: down to Tampa. 420 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: Flew to Tampa, and on that flight started getting the 421 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: worst headache I could remember ever having, and got home 422 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: and then that night just kept getting worse and worse. Well, actually, 423 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: I picked up from the airport and we took you 424 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: to You came home to my place in Tampa and 425 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: had dinner at my place, and you kept complaining about 426 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: your head, and I said, take couple al yeah, you know, 427 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, at six am in 428 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: the morning, you called me, which was very inconvenient at 429 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: six am, and I thought, why the hell is Sam 430 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: calling at six am? Anyway, you said to me your 431 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: words exact were stubsy my head. 432 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: I feel like it's going to explode. You have to 433 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: take me to the er. And I thought, bloody hell 434 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: must be back, because you were as tough as anyone 435 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: I've ever been around, as far as injuries concerned. So 436 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: we whip you off to the er and the guy says, oh, nah, 437 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: it's nothing, You've just got a sinus infection or something. 438 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: I said to him, are you sure, because I was 439 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: getting advice from some doctors as well and friends of 440 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: mine and physios and saying you should you should see 441 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: if she's got viral meningitis. I don't even know who 442 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: brought that up. And anyway, they end up giving you drugs. 443 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: You went back to my place and you took the drugs, 444 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: and every time you took a drug you were just 445 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: throwing up. 446 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: And then when I was allergic to that. As it 447 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 3: turns out, oh, I didn't know that. 448 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: I thought I didn't know that at the time though, 449 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: So then cut to end up having to take into 450 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: another hospital about ten o'clock at night, and then about 451 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 2: I remember at twelve thirty at nights, sitting there and 452 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: they said we're going to have to do spinal tap 453 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: and I thought, oh my god, and they did, and 454 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: then they said they came back and said you've got 455 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 2: viral meningitis. And that's when I said, okay, mate, I'm 456 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 2: going home. I left you in the hospital by yourself, 457 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: you poor feet. You told me you were going to 458 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: be there no matter what, and then they told me 459 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: that you're like, okay, see, let know. Well, what I 460 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: did was I went back and got your tooth and 461 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: to change your clothes and came back then came visited 462 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 2: me and cooked for you for a week and anyway, 463 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: but it was an incredible period of time for you 464 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: because how scared were you that you were this was 465 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 2: really bad? 466 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: Well, no, because I'd never had that or obviously I 467 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: didn't know what that kind of meant, and how long 468 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: it was going to take to recover, and all of 469 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: it like, I'm in Florida and you know I'm there 470 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: by myself. Thankfully you're only a couple of minute drive away, 471 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: but you. 472 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: Know it's still scary. Yeah, it's absolutely scary. 473 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: And I didn't walk out of my front door for 474 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: eight days, I remember, because I just couldn't sit up 475 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: right for more than like a couple of minutes. And 476 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: getting up and thinking, okay, I'm going to go have 477 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: a shit are now was just like a rush to 478 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to get up, get my clothes, and I'm 479 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: laid back down again before the headache starts, and they 480 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: quickly have a shower, laid back down, and thankfully then 481 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: my dad ended up coming over as quickly as he could. 482 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 3: To be with me, and then I went and saw 483 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: some other once I got over that, then went and. 484 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: Saw infectious disease doctors and took them a couple of 485 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: weeks to I guess diagnose me with line disease. And 486 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: then they pieced everything together, did a whole bunch of tests, 487 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: and they were like, yeah, well, viral men and gitis 488 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: is kind of going through. 489 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: Their phases and the stages of Lime's disease. 490 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: So what did they tell you when you got lime disease. 491 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 2: How that was going to affect you for the rest 492 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: of your life. 493 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: Well, they said, you've got to be super careful when 494 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: you do recover because it can you can easily relapse 495 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: and it can come back if you're not smart about 496 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: what you're doing. I mean, probably going to be more 497 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: prone to utritis and possibly injury. 498 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: So I mean, doing what we do, you're going to 499 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: be prone to that. 500 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: And I didn't put that up. It's probably not ideal. 501 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, just being really run down for a long time, 502 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: and I mean, as it turns out, I didn't play 503 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: for ten months. 504 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: It was ten months till my next event. And did 505 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: it worry you or scare you? Because also, you know, 506 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: we sort of have a little thing in Australia with 507 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 2: someone like Alicia Mulloch who was top ten in the world, 508 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 2: and you know, I really felt like Alicia could win 509 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: a Grand Slam, she had the game to do it, 510 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: she was playing so well, and she got the middle 511 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: air infection which really derailed her career. Did you feel like, 512 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I know you weren't really specifically thinking about 513 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: someone like Alicia, but we're thinking like, shit, it's just 514 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: gonna happen to me as well, like and you'd gone 515 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: through a lot of injuries shoulder problems. 516 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think because maybe because I had 517 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: didn't know, I'd never heard of it before. 518 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think maybe not knowing anything until then. 519 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: I got diagnosed with it, and then you start reading 520 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: about it and you learn more, and now I know 521 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: lots about it. But I think that maybe kind of 522 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: helped because it was like I didn't freak you out, 523 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, which is let's go naivety kind of probably 524 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: helped with all that. And but the I know in myself, 525 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: I've really followed what the doctors, what everyone, the physios 526 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: and everyone. 527 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: Prescribed me to do. When I could start doing things. 528 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: Again, I didn't do one minute more than what they 529 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: said because they drummed it into me, especially the doctor 530 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: that's yeah, about what you can and cannot do, and 531 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: how slow I had to come back, and I'm talking 532 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: starting with a twenty minute walk trying to keep my 533 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: heart rate under one twenty and that. 534 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: Was so hard to stay at a slow pace to keep. 535 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: Under one twenty. And I go for a walk now 536 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: and it would probably not even be eighty. So yeah, yeah, 537 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: a massive difference, and that's what I stuck to it, 538 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: like you would not believe. 539 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: And then is that your nature anyone. 540 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 3: I'm pretty good at following direction. 541 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's a good lesson for people though at home, 542 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: or tennis players juniors who I feel go and start 543 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: too early, you know, interestingly here playing right now in 544 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: front of us, So the Brian brothers, you know, and 545 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: Bob has said that, you know, he probably came back 546 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: a little bit early with the hip injury. But but sometimes, 547 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: you know, with injuries it's a little bit different because 548 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: you have to trust the body again, and he's like, look, 549 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: he's bloody six million dollar man with a you know, 550 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: with a fake hit. So it's a little different. But 551 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 2: I feel that tennis players often try to go too early. 552 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: For sure. 553 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: It's a good lesson, yeah, but I think also with 554 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: the illness too, it's almost a bit more scary than 555 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: than any injury. 556 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 557 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: And I mean I went when I first played. I 558 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: remember flying back to the States for my first event, 559 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: and I went nearly a week early. 560 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 3: And I would never go a week. I might go 561 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 3: three or four days early, but I went even earlier 562 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: to get kind of time. 563 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: To acclimatize, get over the jet leg first, slowly ease 564 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: into it. 565 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: Did it help you mentally after that injury, like, because 566 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: at that point you were a very good singles player 567 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: top thirty I believe, yeah, top thirty, obviously doing very 568 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: well in doubles. Did it mentally help you to go, 569 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: all right, this is I had my career almost taken 570 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: away from it, really taken away from me. Did it 571 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: make you appreciate it more and make you you always 572 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: worked hard, but make you work even harder and mentally 573 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: be better? Because that was sort of the problem was 574 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: you didn't really trust you. I don't think you thought. 575 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: I think you lacked the self belief when it really 576 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: came down to it. 577 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 578 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: Probably, And I think having that happen again quite I 579 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: was quite young in your career to think, oh jeez, 580 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: could I is this all going to be finished? 581 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 3: And what am I going to do? Because this is 582 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 3: all I ever what I doing? 583 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 2: What would get to that later? 584 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: But I think it really did make me stop and 585 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, am I doing everything I possibly can? 586 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: Not that I was taking shortcuts, but there's always just 587 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: that little bit more? 588 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: Should I? Yeah? 589 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: I probably could? 590 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Or making the right decision to go play a different 591 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: schedule or something like that. And I mean, unfortunately for 592 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: Lisa and myself that she kind of wore the brunt 593 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: of that because then I thought, Okay, I'm doing great, 594 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: but I really think I can be a better singles player. 595 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: So when did that change for you? Like, when did 596 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: the moment come where you where the singles really you went, well, 597 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,959 Speaker 2: I really can I could be good and maybe when 598 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 2: I slam. 599 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: Well when I first started again, because that was the 600 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: absolute priority was to get my singles career on track 601 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: and doubles it because I never set out to be 602 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: a great doubles player. It just happened and I love 603 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: it and I wouldn't change it for anything, but having 604 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: to start again, I was like, no, I need to 605 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: almost kind of put later and put all my eggs 606 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: in one basket and start really doing everything I can 607 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: for singles. And that's what I did, because I thought 608 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: I could be better than thirty in the world, which 609 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: is what I was kind of hovering around. 610 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: For a while. 611 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: And yeah, and so that was kind of what helped 612 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: change that. So even though it was a complete disaster 613 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: and something I'd never want to go through, if I 614 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: did it, and I don't know, maybe I wouldn't have 615 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: made that decision when I did, and then who knows 616 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: what could have happened. 617 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 2: So take me through those French Open runs in particular, 618 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: like the first run to You had a great start 619 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 2: that year, remember because ironically we were playing doubles at 620 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 2: that period of time, because you were like, I can 621 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: still play a little bit of doubles here and there, 622 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: and you maybe being a token helping me out. But 623 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 2: but you made the Semis of Miami the tournament were 624 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: out right now, which was a great win, and you 625 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 2: beat dinarosfi and I remember that she was ranked number 626 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 2: one in the world at the time, and semi finals 627 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: of Miami is a big tournament. And then the run 628 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 2: to the Semis and the French that year, and I 629 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: think that's when things started changing with you, like shit, 630 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: like I can really do damage in these tournaments. Yeah, 631 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: that tournament in the French that was nine. 632 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of like okay, yeah, I can 633 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: play with the best and I know I can beat 634 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: them too. 635 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: I spoke to you the day after the final women's 636 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: final that year, and it was Dnarosfina Kuznetsova and I 637 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: remember we were texting back and forth and you said 638 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: to me, because we were sharing an apartment as well 639 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: during the French and you said to me, I feel 640 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: worse today after that final than I did when I lost. 641 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, don't ever let it happen again, 642 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 2: because I think that you didn't think that you were 643 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 2: worthy enough to win a Slam, or maybe good enough, 644 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: and you were. And I don't think you ever lost 645 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: to chuz Netzeva after that. 646 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 3: If I did late years later, but not for a while. 647 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do remember for her to break serve 648 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: in the third set on me. 649 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: She hit an amazing backhand down the line winner off 650 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: one of my kickers out wide, and she broke me. 651 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: I think to go up three to one, and I 652 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: ended up losing it six to three. And I don't 653 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: feel like I did anything probably wrong looking back, but 654 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: maybe there was just that little bit of lack of 655 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: belief which then didn't obviously put you in the point 656 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: quite enough. Yeah, I didn't play stupid or bad, but 657 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: it was just a little bit lacking because. 658 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: To leave it mentally, the difference between you and Causanessa 659 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: at that stage was that you subconsciously didn't think you 660 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: were good enough to win a slam, and she knew 661 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: she was d done it once before exactly and that 662 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: was the difference. I think that won her that match 663 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: in particular. So then cut to the next year. You 664 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: played a phenomenal French Open, you believe it or not, Serena, 665 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: Hennan and Yankovic, which to people at home at that 666 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: time of their careers was phenomenal to beat those three, 667 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 2: and then you play Skivone in the final. You'd beaten 668 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: in the first round of the French the year before, 669 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: I believe it or not, and you pretty much scored Skivony. 670 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: But what did you learn from that loss that then 671 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: translated to the US Open victory. 672 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: Well, it took me probably the best part of a 673 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: year to get over that match or both. I mean 674 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: not I could not watch it. I never watched and 675 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: then I don't think it was until the French Open 676 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: the next year. 677 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: I was sitting in the cafe. 678 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: Before and they just had it on replay and I'm 679 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: kind of no matter where I looked, it was on 680 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: all the TV, and I was to see it and 681 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: it was brutal because I was the favorite going into 682 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: that match with my ranking who I'd beaten all the 683 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: round so many times, and unfortunately, Yeah, she played it great. 684 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: She played amazing, and she played much better than what 685 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: she had against me. She obviously thought going into the match, 686 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: if I don't do something different and I don't take 687 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: these risks, I'm not going to win. And she did 688 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 1: and on that day, in the biggest moment, she stepped 689 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: up and she executed it, and she deserved to win, 690 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: whereas I was still probably a little bit scared, and 691 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: then she was playing really. 692 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: Well, and I was aggressive to yeah a bit, Oh 693 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: what's happening here? What am I doing? 694 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: Where do I go? And it was kind of one 695 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 3: of those matches. 696 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: So again, once I could watch it and see what 697 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: actually happened and see for what it was, not what 698 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: I felt it was, it allowed me to move on 699 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: from that and probably think, all right, I'm not going 700 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: to let that happen again. 701 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: So the US Open rolls around. You've beaten Serena a 702 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: couple of times, you're almost also in Sydney, so you 703 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: technically that point you'd had two wins against her, two 704 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: wings and one in Sydney. Why was it about going 705 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: into that match that you really believe that you could win. 706 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: That helped you so much, because you know, I look, 707 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: Serena played a really late night match two nights before, 708 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: you'd played one really great tennis going into the final year. 709 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: My schedule was screwed during that whole tournament as well, 710 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: so there was a whole heap of stuff going on 711 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: in the background that nobody at home. 712 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 3: Well, there was rain delays back to back matches. 713 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 2: I had. 714 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: The match I played with I think it was Kirilenko. 715 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: We were meant to be on center court, I think 716 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: got moved to grandstand last minute, but had to then 717 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: be held for like another hour, and then it was 718 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: all about it. I think Andy Roddick was playing maybe, 719 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: and they were like, no, that's going to go on, 720 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: and then we're not going to put you on there. 721 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: It's just a whole bunch of stuff and yeah, rain 722 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: delays and whatever. So it was as difficult for you. 723 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: It was hard. 724 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: So we played on grandstand a little bit earlier in 725 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: the afternoon and going into Serena's match starting, they told 726 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: us that there was going to be a bunch of 727 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: fireworks happening and they're like, no, no, it's not going 728 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: to disrupt your match all of a sudden, there's. 729 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: Fireworks going off and all this stuff. 730 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: Anyway, So I finished beat Kerber. Yes, Serena finished late, 731 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, I had no doubt in my 732 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: mind that I could win that match. The following day 733 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: and I remember getting out of the van, myself and 734 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: all my team that were there, and we rocked up 735 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: to our hotel and we were getting out and got 736 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: all that stuff out of the back, and we're all 737 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: kind of standing there deciding, right dinner, what are we. 738 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: Doing the night? Like you're playing a final tomorrow? What 739 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: are we doing? 740 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: And I turned and I said to them, I'm going 741 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: to be a party pooper tomorrow. And I don't know, 742 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: I would never normally outwardly say something. 743 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: Like that to be Oh, you're going to be like 744 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 2: you were going to party pooper? Yeah? 745 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: For yeah, because I mean, she's American playing us, soaperen 746 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: it was kind of this dream comeback of hers. It 747 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: was the tenth anniversary of nine to eleven, like it 748 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: was a massive day and I was not expected. It 749 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: was all about It was all about Serena to win 750 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: the event, and even watching on TV the whole tournament, 751 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: every day you'd watch it. It was all about nobody 752 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: else was going to win the tournament except Serena, and 753 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: I just said, I'm going to be a party pooper tomorrow. 754 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: And I went to bed and obviously played great, but 755 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: played as soon as I was in the final, I 756 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: just really believed I could win. 757 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So take us through that match, because you know, 758 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: obviously everybody remembers the situation the Naomi and Serena the 759 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: US Open last year, but you were, well, actually, no, 760 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 2: Kim Kim. Seren's had her issues at the US and listen, 761 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: I'm prins with straight. I love her and I love 762 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: her crazy. But Kim had the situation. And then you 763 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: also had a situation where the umpire called Hindrance. Yes, 764 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: take me through that exact moment. 765 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 3: Oh yes. 766 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: So we played the point and I heard her yell 767 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: and whatever, Yeah, I said, come on, she said come on, 768 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: and because. 769 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: She was with a hit a winner, and I had 770 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: no chance of getting it. 771 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: And then the umpire called Hindrance and gave me the point, 772 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: and I was a bit see, I was a bit 773 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: confused about what was going on, and that was a 774 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: game point then, so we were changing ends. 775 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: But I was like, am I getting the point? 776 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: Is that the rule? I'm not really sure. 777 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: And then I remember looking up to my box and 778 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: my manager was standing up and he's like, chang change hands, 779 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: and like motioning change hands, and I was like, I. 780 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 2: Don't want to do Yeah, I don't know what to do. 781 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: And so I walked to the chair and went back, Yeah, 782 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: sat down, and then we all know what happened, and 783 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: she I actually couldn't hear anything she was saying because 784 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: it was so loud in there, which is probably a 785 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: good thing. 786 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: So I just sat there and focused and then won 787 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 2: that first set. 788 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: And I remember. 789 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: How the crowd must have been. I mean it was 790 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 2: last year, was ten times possibly five times worse than you, 791 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: maybe twice as bad as you, but it was pretty bad. Yeah, 792 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 2: did you feel like digging a hole? 793 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: The thing was because I mean they were obviously pro Serena, 794 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: which was totally expected and absolutely fine by me. But 795 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: because I was playing well, I hadn't given her really 796 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: a chance to get into the match. So for the 797 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: crowd to want someone to win, there wasn't a lot 798 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: going on for them to keep cheering and be super 799 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: enthused about what was going on up until that point, 800 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: and then when that happened, she obviously got angry, and 801 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: then the crowd got behind her, and I don't think 802 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: they weren't against me, but they wanted to see this contest. 803 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: And the worst part about it is you didn't have 804 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: your glasses on so you could hide the whole because 805 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 2: it was nighttime match. 806 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 3: And so yeah, it was. It was just a massive turnaround. 807 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 3: And then yeah, I. 808 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: After I won that first set, if a microphone was 809 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: anywhere near me, it would have picked up my heart 810 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,879 Speaker 1: beat because it was pumping out of my chest because 811 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm a setup on 812 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: Serena in the final of the US Open, and. 813 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 3: The people and all these people don't want me to read. 814 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 2: And what do you tell yourself? It was just what 815 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 2: do you tell yourself to calm down? What did you 816 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: tell yourself? 817 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: I guess I just went to thinking about what I 818 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: had to do to play the points. It went total 819 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: ta tactical mode. 820 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 3: That was it. 821 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 2: So you get to match. 822 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: Point and you've got well, actually, firstly, let me sit. 823 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: This is actually kind of yeah. I don't know if 824 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: I've really told this story much. But so then when 825 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: the crowd started going against me. There was a really 826 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: important couple of games, and she almost started running away 827 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: with the second set early on. And then we had 828 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: this point and we were both at the net reflex volleys. 829 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: There was two or three or four volleys back and forth, 830 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: and I hit a back end cross court volley winner 831 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: past her. As I was turning around to go back 832 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: to the baseline, I saw at the corner of my 833 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: eye her clap the point on her racket, and for 834 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: some reason that settled me. 835 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: Oh, that's so, this is why we loved the podcast. Yeah, 836 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 2: because that is an amazing thing to know. 837 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: I saw that and I thought, I'm all right, she's 838 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: not pissed at me. I don't know why that would 839 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: even matter, but that was kind of what. 840 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 2: That tells you a lot about the respect level for 841 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 2: every single player, including Beaten, yet her twice has for her. Yeah, 842 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 2: that you saw out the corner, you're like her, going, okay, 843 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,439 Speaker 2: she clapped that. Wow, Okay, she's not mad at me. Okay, relax. Yeah, 844 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 2: and you didn't care what the crowd thought. No, you 845 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 2: actually cared about what she thought. Yeah, that's so interesting. 846 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: So then turned around play the next point, held broke 847 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: whatever was going on and mart great went from one 848 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two maybe a bit normal again and 849 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: then I want to set six three and but wait 850 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: match was over. 851 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: But wait, so match point, match point. When you get 852 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: match point and she misses that first serve, yeap, I 853 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 2: know the shot you hit. 854 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: Obviously she'd had a match point before and we'd had 855 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: a longer rally and she hit a smash for a winner, 856 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: and then we played juice point. 857 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: I won that and you get that forehand and what 858 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 2: do you tell yourself? And what did you tell yourself after? 859 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: It was like, well, when she missed that first serve, 860 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, this is good. I knew that 861 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: I was going to hit a foehand on the return. 862 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: I just there was no chance I wasn't going to 863 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: hit a foehand and there was no chance it wasn't 864 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: going to go off because I hit it. 865 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd hit a ton of winners. 866 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 2: That and I was just hitting it great, and so 867 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: it was just were you shaking? 868 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 3: Oh probably, yeah, yeah, no doubt. 869 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: I definitely was the first match point, and probably the 870 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: second one. 871 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 3: I was a little bit better, but definitely had the 872 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 3: jelly legs. 873 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: I loved. 874 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 3: I loved your reaction. 875 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 2: It was just a reaction of I can't believe this 876 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 2: just happened. 877 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was incredible, and going back like and then 878 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: I went up into the box and did all that, 879 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: but I kind of it felt so surreal and almost 880 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: like out of body. 881 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: I wish I could almost. 882 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: Go back into that and really experience it to almost 883 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: kind of not enjoy it more, but just almost like more. 884 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was just so. 885 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 2: Like crazy wow. And also with what happened with the 886 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: crowd and everything, You're just like, oh my god, this 887 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 2: is just did you party that night? Ah? Yeah, well 888 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 2: we found well nobody had organized anything of course, because 889 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 2: it was I mean it was even though you said 890 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 2: you're going to be a party pooper, yeah exactly. So 891 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: we actually. 892 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: Killer who my manager he must have gone out a 893 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: couple of nights during the weekend. 894 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 2: That's a real shocker. 895 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: And anyway, I knew of this bar just a couple 896 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: of blocks away, and he's like, let's just go there, 897 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, that's cool, whatever, that's fine. 898 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: And I remember he went down the street and got 899 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: some like takeaway pizzas from one of those corners. 900 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 2: So class like you just wont like two million bucks, 901 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 2: but let's go get some two dollar pizzas and sat 902 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 2: out the back of this bar. But it was perfect, 903 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 2: Like it was actually perfect for you. It was perfect. 904 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want to I actually because when we got 905 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: back to the hotel, we were like, okay, let's try 906 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: and find a restaurant. 907 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 3: We'll do something, and I was like, nah, I. 908 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 2: Don't want to full sit down formal meal. Let's sassy, classy. 909 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 3: It was just like, let's just enjoy and have like 910 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 3: a bit of a pa Yeah. 911 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 2: Let's pretend we're at home in the backyard, Yeah, having 912 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 2: a beer, some pizza. 913 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: And I went to say, I don't know, like three 914 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: or four or something, and was up at seven to 915 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: do all the baba. 916 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 917 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 2: How you know how much pressure then? You know, you 918 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: go back to Australia. You know, we know the sort 919 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 2: of having to play in Australia and it's always been 920 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: your dream to do well there. But it's also difficult 921 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 2: because there was so much pressure on you after that. 922 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's. 923 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: Difficult because when you're playing back in Australia anyway, and 924 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: I'd always found it hard to play my best there 925 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 1: for a multiple different amount of reasons. 926 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 2: But then you just won the US Open, the last 927 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 2: Grand Slam that anyone remembers watching, so they just think, oh, well, 928 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 2: you're going to do it again. 929 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 3: Like why why wouldn't you? That's just what you do 930 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 3: and it's not that simple. 931 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: And actually that's why this year, watching Naomi go back 932 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: to back and play well also in Japan only a 933 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: couple of weeks after the US Open was even probably 934 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: more impressive because it's not Yeah, it's not a given 935 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 1: that one Grand Slam and then you just go on 936 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 1: and win, you know more. 937 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 938 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 2: I was going to say, does that make you special? 939 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 2: But that kind of makes you say, like she's just fat. 940 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 2: You're impressed by what she did. Yeah. Yeah. The difficulties 941 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 2: for you over the last you know, three or four 942 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 2: years with the singles has been a little bit up 943 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 2: and down, and the pressure that you still feel to 944 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 2: do well and you work so hard. You still work 945 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: as hard as anybody I know on the court off 946 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 2: the court, and you're pretty sensitive person. Like people don't 947 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 2: see that about you. Yeah, you know, you like because 948 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 2: you went yeah, well, I will say, I mean, you know, 949 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 2: I like to tell these stories because you and I 950 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 2: are good friends and I've been with you through a 951 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 2: bunch of random stuff. And I do remember I was 952 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 2: with you in Asia a couple of years ago and 953 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: you came off the court in Hong Kong. Oh god, 954 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 2: and it was such a hard period of your career 955 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,919 Speaker 2: because you really were struggling. And I remember you walked 956 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 2: off the court and a match that you should have won, 957 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 2: you know, against somebody that you should be And I 958 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 2: remember when you came off the court and you're usually 959 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 2: it'll be right, I'm okay, you know, played okay, You're 960 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 2: always looking, You're always somebody that's always spoken impressed about 961 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 2: it's fine, I'll be fine. And you know, some of 962 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 2: us all was like, Sam, it's not fine. Just admit it. 963 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 2: I'll bounce back, Sam. But you know what, also, when 964 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: I think about it, bloody hell. Good for you to 965 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 2: be able to do that as a tennis player. But 966 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 2: I remember you come off the court and you sat 967 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 2: there and you just cried. Yeah, And I think I 968 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 2: might have cried with you, because I don't think I've 969 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 2: ever seen you like that, and you just said I 970 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 2: just I can't remember the words that you said, but 971 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 2: I remember thinking, bloody hell, like these are the things 972 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 2: that people don't see as all the back stuff, you know, 973 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,959 Speaker 2: all the days where you cry by yourself. You've probably 974 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: done that a lot of times. The people don't know 975 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 2: about it. Sure you know, and you've hidden behind your 976 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 2: glasses in matches and I will tell your funny story 977 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 2: talking to I think Andrew Peckett, which a couple of 978 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 2: weeks ago. And you know, when Sam's a glasses on, 979 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 2: it's so much harder to play it because you just 980 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 2: don't know what's going on, you know. But when you 981 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 2: see you with the hit I sometimes you think, oh, 982 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 2: she's a bit worried, and I go I feel the 983 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 2: same way when I played her in doubles or it 984 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 2: used to drive me crazy. I'm like, is she pissed? 985 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 2: Is she upset? What's going on? 986 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 3: You know? 987 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 2: So the glasses kind of have helped over the years, 988 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,760 Speaker 2: but you know, those are things that people don't realize, 989 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 2: and you've had to dig yourself out of those holes. 990 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 2: How much did it mean to you after? I know, 991 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 2: and you know how much I'm protective of you as 992 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 2: a friend. But you know, people on Twitter and wins Sei, 993 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to retire and this is a joke and 994 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 2: losing an embarrassment. Oh, these are the things that people say. No, 995 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 2: I know, you know what they say. 996 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: I've banned a few people, yeah, blocked a few people, 997 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: banned a few people. 998 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 2: How satisfying was that Australian Open doubles victory for you? 999 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was amazing because. 1000 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 2: It just kind of to be back, be honest, No, no, 1001 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 2: it was incredible and you just wanted a middle finger everybody, 1002 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 2: come on. 1003 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: Well, the great thing was I actually was a bit 1004 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: surprised how many people really took notice of me winning it. 1005 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 2: And obviously you're in Australia so it's a bit more 1006 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: probably easy to know. 1007 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: But even the week later, I was up in Sydney 1008 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: walking through Bond Day Junction shopping center trying to. 1009 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 2: Find some sheets for my bed, and quite a few 1010 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 2: people just see me and come. 1011 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: Up and be like that was amazing. I'm so oh 1012 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: my god, that was fantastic. Thank you so much for 1013 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: what you do, and like were really proud of me, 1014 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, far. 1015 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 2: Out like when you were open and nobody knew who 1016 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 2: I was. 1017 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: But it was really nice actually, and I think to 1018 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: be home and I didn't have to rush off and 1019 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,439 Speaker 1: go to another event, so I could actually stay home, 1020 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: enjoy it with my family that were there, my friends, 1021 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: and just achieved something that I hadn't achieved for such 1022 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: a long time. 1023 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 2: And you and prefaced years and years before, you and 1024 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 2: Lisa Raymond had a match point to win the Australia 1025 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 2: excuse me to match points to win the austrain oput. Yeah, 1026 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,879 Speaker 2: and you didn't when so I remember Lisa tweeted way 1027 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 2: to get the title. Yeah, And I randomly gave the 1028 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 2: trophy out there, which was asked to be like halfway 1029 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 2: through the match, which was funny because I know that 1030 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 2: you were kind of looking at me in the President's 1031 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: box through match because I was like, why would she 1032 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 2: leave now? That is so bizarre. Well, and you asked 1033 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 2: me for a ticket, so I was like, well, why 1034 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 2: would she ask me. 1035 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: For a ticket if she's sitting in the present because 1036 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: she leaves the president. 1037 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 2: The president Jane Herdleka had asked me if I wanted 1038 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 2: to come and watch in the President's box. At the 1039 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 2: last minute, thought shit, I don't even need a ticket 1040 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 2: from Sam. I'm going to get the best seat in 1041 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 2: the house. I was sitting right behind the court and 1042 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 2: you didn't know that did you know that? I didn't 1043 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 2: know that, And then all a sudden you looked up 1044 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 2: and you saw me, which was good because we're mates 1045 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 2: and obviously, you know, sometimes it's nice to have a 1046 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 2: random person in the crowd that you can do. It 1047 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 2: actually really was because our team were down the other road, 1048 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 2: down the other end, so you would look at me, 1049 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 2: and I was like, you know, as long as I 1050 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 2: could be a positive influence on you in some way 1051 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 2: nodding my head or good job, Sam, I couldn't really 1052 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 2: be vocal because I was sitting in the president's box. 1053 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,320 Speaker 2: Maybe a good thing. Maybe, Yeah, you're funny, fucking funny 1054 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 2: cut too. At some point the career is going to 1055 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 2: be over. Have you thought about what you're going to do? 1056 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 2: Because I think it's one of the most difficult things, 1057 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 2: and what not is not spoken about enough, is what 1058 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 2: are you going to do when your transit? Look, you 1059 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 2: probably don't have to work ever again in your life. 1060 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 2: You've got enough money to at least better to do 1061 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 2: something you want to know? But what have you thought 1062 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 2: about what you would like to do? Yeah, because I 1063 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 2: think it's important for your post get retiring knowing what 1064 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 2: you kind of want to do afterwards. Oh yes. 1065 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 1: And if there was my coach who I had for 1066 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: a couple of years last year and the year before, 1067 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: Josh Eagle, if there was one thing he really drummed 1068 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: home to me, it was just start thinking about what 1069 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: you want to do after He's like, may not happen 1070 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: for two years. I think it is whatever, however long, 1071 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: I think it helps you in your career. Yeah, but 1072 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: he was like, honestly from himself. His wife was Barbaschett, 1073 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: who was a player and everything. He's like, I'm telling you, 1074 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: it's harder than you think, and just start thinking about 1075 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: things and having some ideas and oh my, you know, 1076 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: ask this person this, or kind of find out what's 1077 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 1: going on over there, and just start growing a bit 1078 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: of a list. 1079 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 3: Of things that you may want to try that I 1080 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 3: know is important. 1081 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: And I think we've all seen enough tennis players and 1082 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: sports people go from their career and get pretty lost. 1083 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 2: And not know what to do. 1084 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,320 Speaker 1: And it is a really hard transition, which I'm not 1085 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: sure is going to be really hard for me as well. 1086 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with your set monetarily, it's 1087 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 2: the fact that for your entire life. I know this myself. 1088 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 2: You are structured. You have an idea every day you 1089 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 2: wake up. What your plan is, Yeah, to work out, 1090 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 2: play tennis is to get better. Yeah, and then all 1091 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 2: of a sudden, book that's gone and you Most people 1092 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 2: retire sixty five and seventy, you're retiring at thirty five forty. 1093 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 2: It's a lot of life left. 1094 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm very good at following directions. 1095 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: If I don't have direction, oh my god, what the 1096 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: hell am I going to do? 1097 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? So what are you going to do? Well? I'm kidding, No, 1098 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I would love to stay in tennis. 1099 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 3: I've mean, it's been my life. I've loved it. 1100 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: There's been some obviously hard moments, but it's I could 1101 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,880 Speaker 1: not imagine putting down my rackets and not competing and 1102 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: be like, nah, I'm done with it. 1103 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 3: Don't want anything like that. 1104 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 2: Well, I might do like one of those adventure course things. 1105 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 3: I think that I actually love. 1106 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 2: Favorite thing to do outside of tennis. I love going 1107 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 2: to the beach and yeah, I've really gotten into hiking, camping, 1108 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 2: slapping it in the old two man tent. No, and 1109 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 2: it's surprised not showering for five days. I have like 1110 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 2: four a day normally, so you're usually sweating. That's whine, 1111 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 2: all right, But anyway. 1112 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that I've got to do it, but 1113 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: I would definitely stay in tennis. I know that one 1114 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: hundred percent. 1115 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 2: We're going to do little quick questions most difficult like 1116 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 2: what that I've ever had? Most difficult day that you 1117 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 2: can remember? 1118 00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,120 Speaker 1: Oh, probably a day after losing a mat so that 1119 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: I thought I should win, and then questioning do I 1120 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: want to keep playing because it's really hard the French 1121 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 1: Open Oh no, no, no, not French Open, but just 1122 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 1: probably more recent few years, and then struggling with different things, 1123 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,720 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, do I want to keep putting 1124 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: myself on the line to go through this? Because if 1125 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm not playing well, I don't have to feel this bad. 1126 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,120 Speaker 1: But then when you win and you do something great, 1127 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: that's incredible, and you know that that's not going to 1128 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: be easy to achieve either. 1129 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 2: So I think it's it's just. 1130 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: A yeah, those little moments where you kind of have 1131 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: that bit of doubt maybe and question do I want 1132 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: to keep going putting myself out there? 1133 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? And for scrutiny as well, because you're pretty as 1134 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 2: I said, you're a sensitive person. So you're probably like, well, 1135 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 2: what are people saying? 1136 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean, you know as well when you're 1137 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: playing as a tennis player, I think, especially because it's 1138 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,399 Speaker 1: an individual sport. So at the end of the day, 1139 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: you're out there and it's on you whether you win, lose, 1140 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: play well, play bad, do whatever. Everyone has an opinion 1141 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: and whether or not they weren't having an opinion or not, 1142 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: it's okay. It seems okay to like scrutinize an athlete that. 1143 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 2: You don't even know, that you don't even know, but yet. 1144 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: Like we don't scrutinize someone who you know writes a 1145 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 1: bad article or tracks the shopping badly or you. 1146 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 2: Know, like you know the shop, I don't do anything 1147 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 2: that you might get you get the chicken in there 1148 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 2: before with the bananas. 1149 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 1: It's terrible, but like things that we're always on the 1150 00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: line and we get told what we do really well. 1151 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 2: But it's like people who want to be your friends. Yeah, 1152 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 2: but just as much like when you mess up a 1153 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 2: shot or whatever and the whole crack goes, you're like, 1154 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 2: if we want to stop and go, okay, let me 1155 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 2: just say something, guys, I'm really trying, Okay, So just guys. 1156 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 3: I mean that's a natural thing. I do that too 1157 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 3: when I watch matches. 1158 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, Like, you're always on 1159 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: the line and under the scrutiny possibly of others and 1160 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,800 Speaker 1: others your coach, because your coach doesn't always tell you 1161 00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: what you're doing well. 1162 00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 2: But I think as a. 1163 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: Player, I've been pretty good at being able to handle 1164 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: those hard conversations with my coaches people around me to 1165 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 1: make me better because I know it's being honest and 1166 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: I respect that, and they care about me and they 1167 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: only want to see me do better. And I think 1168 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: that has always been part of why I've been able 1169 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: to bounce back, because all right, but I don't want 1170 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: to tell you something bad and see you know, tearing 1171 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: up and what was easy, it was pretty hard. 1172 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 3: So I know they're only doing that to make me better. 1173 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: And that's why I think I've been able to constantly think, Yep, 1174 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: I can get better and do this. 1175 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 2: Other than winning the Years Open, because I know that's 1176 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 2: got to be the highlight of you life. Funniest, funniest 1177 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 2: thing that happened to be on the court. Do you 1178 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 2: remember anything skirt broke? You know, I know one thing 1179 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,280 Speaker 2: that I want to talk about with you, the bloody 1180 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 2: lip gloss thing. I mean, nobody has lip glossed their 1181 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 2: lips more than you, and that people protection people take 1182 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,919 Speaker 2: a look at Sam every time she plays every single 1183 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 2: is it every single change up? No? 1184 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: No, no, I've had to cut back because I'm pretty 1185 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: sure it's not really good for you. 1186 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not, probably not. Anyway, it depends on the climate. 1187 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 2: We're in Indian worlds. 1188 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 3: It comes out a lot more than Miami. 1189 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 2: Dubai essentially the desert, yeah, the dry places I don't like. 1190 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 2: All right, how do you want to finish your career? 1191 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 2: And what do you what do you want? What do 1192 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 2: you want? 1193 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 3: People? 1194 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 2: And FYI, you should have won the Karen krane Ski 1195 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 2: Award once in your career. Just I'm just putting that 1196 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 2: out there, okay, because I think it's nothing against Petro, 1197 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 2: who's won it like thirty eight times. Share it around, 1198 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 2: Share it around, okay, Petro put put a vote in 1199 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 2: for Sam. Okay, seriously, because is that the most important 1200 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 2: thing for you when you finish your career? Is that 1201 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 2: ultimately in the end, well, what is. 1202 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: The most Yeah, I mean i'd like to be I 1203 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: guess remembered as a person who just gave it their 1204 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,479 Speaker 1: best and tried every time they went out of court 1205 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 1: to play well, be respectful, give it your best. And 1206 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: I've never heard a get a grudge against someone who's 1207 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: beaten me. Whether I think they beat me or I 1208 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: beat myself. Whatever, it's kind of shake hands and whatever, 1209 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: move on with the next day, and just yeah, I've 1210 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: been a pretty good player. I've won some amazing events. 1211 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: I've had a great life out of it. But yeah, 1212 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: just someone who tried their best. 1213 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 2: Well, I'm putting a voat in for the Karen Kransky 1214 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 2: Award for this year, and if you don't get I'm 1215 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 2: gonna be really pissed. Okay, So everybody out there, okay, 1216 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 2: vote for Sam for the Karen Crancy. And it's funny 1217 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 2: because we just watched ash Party win in Miami and 1218 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,399 Speaker 2: she reminds me so much of you. But you live, 1219 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 2: you grew up about an hour away from each other, 1220 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 2: you grew up in the Gold Coast, you grew up 1221 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 2: a nipseyitch. Yeah, so I think it's also part of 1222 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 2: that DNA of just being super relaxed. And I think 1223 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 2: you've you've brought these young players, someone like of course 1224 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 2: Ash to believe that she can do what she did 1225 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 2: today because of what you've done ten years prior to 1226 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 2: her and throughout the career. So yeah, and you're you're 1227 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 2: a good You're. What people don't realize about you is 1228 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 2: that you're a great conversationalist, except you don't seem like 1229 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 2: a you quiet Yeah when you want to want buyet. 1230 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 2: You are great conversationalists, and you know you love the game. 1231 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 3: And I can have a lot to say. 1232 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 2: I don't really We could be here for bloody hours. 1233 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 2: I mean, everyone thinks I'm a shadow box. I think 1234 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 2: you're worse than me. Should we go out for your birthday? 1235 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1236 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 2: Why not? Let's do it. Should we have a drink 1237 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 2: to tomorrow? 1238 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 3: I'll have a drink tomorrow. 1239 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 2: I'll have drinks for you. Thanks for having me, Thanks 1240 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 2: for coming on the show. 1241 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 4: Thank alright, and that's it for this episode of the 1242 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,280 Speaker 4: Racket Magazine podcast. Thanks for listening. Our host is Renee Stubbs. 1243 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 4: Our co host and producer is me Caitlin Thompson. Music 1244 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 4: by internationally renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong. Thanks to tim Or 1245 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 4: Jerry and then the team at ACAST. Find us at 1246 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 4: racketmag dot com, slash podcast, and subscribe to us at 1247 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 4: any of your favorite podcatchers.