WEBVTT - Draft Show: Time to Panic? 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.360 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:15.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys is the Dallascowboys 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:20.560 dot Com Draft Show, your war room for insider news 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.400 and draft analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.800 headquarters at the Star and Frisco. 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:35.120 Today is Tuesday, March twenty sixth, twenty twenty four. And 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.440 I tried to fast forward to this point last week 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:43.280 because there is thirty days until the NFL droved. Thirty days, 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:48.440 thirty days officials. It didn't not for me. 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.000 Maybe it's because I was new. It did not go 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:52.880 by this fast. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:54.760 You were along for the ride last year. 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:55.440 I got my. 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:58.680 You did a great we always get it. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:03.000 It is flying like I just can't believe it. I 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.360 feel like Combine came and went Senior Bowl, snuck up 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:07.400 on his real quick too. 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:08.720 I remember that we're. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:09.800 In the annual meetings today. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.520 Yeah, drafting real quick. 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.319 Croda's are like almost over with. 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.360 Don't say that I'm baddy, but keep your ears low 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.240 to the ground because this is when you start hearing 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.479 a little shuttle every now and then. 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.679 Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by Miller Lay the 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:27.800 taste you can depend on. 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:29.039 She's Ayisha Morrison. 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.240 We've got Brian brought us, Zach Wilchuk, Chris Beam in 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.679 the back, I'm Kyle Yeoman's Nick Harris, Bobby Belt out 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.320 this week, Nick is at the owner's meeting. He's actually 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.240 talking to head coach Mike McCarthy as we speak. So 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.360 we'll get some good insight from Nick here over the 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.520 next couple of days. But here we go, Brian, you 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.960 start hearing some rumblings, You start hearing some rumors and 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.320 even from the front office, some draft possible strategies. Whenever 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:52.760 you look at. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.960 It, Yeah, there's people just throwing some chum in the 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.680 water right now and seeing if you're interested in coming 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.920 up or maybe you know, going back if I know. 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.760 There was a big article yesterday at ESPN about how 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:07.000 Minnesota was going to navigate to get to and they 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.160 threw out a lot of different possibilities of trying to 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.480 get it. All really hinged on that third spot where 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.680 New England and my friend Elliott Wolf is now running 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.880 their draft. And the thing about Elliott is he knows 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.560 his roster needs talent, and he also knows he needs 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.760 a quarterback, but can you entice him? There were a 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.840 couple of different scenarios where man it was and again ESPN, 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:33.919 I thought I did a really good job Dan Grasiano 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.280 and these guys of kind of playing it out that 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.400 you know, maybe some double trades involved, maybe trades was 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:43.440 spot then trade again to get there. You know, some 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.800 next year's ones involved. You know, people are trying to 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:51.480 right now figure out and not everybody's put together their board, 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.480 so you really you know where the players are graded 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.680 when you look at your spreadsheets, you know where there 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:01.440 are the possibility that got as could be your understanding 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:05.200 where the pockets are of players. But now it's going 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.320 to be about, okay, how do I get in range 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.600 to get specific players? And I'm not asking you to 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.160 window dress your board, but I think some of the 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.720 cowboys are going to have to look at is, you know, 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.880 with some of the needs that they do have, how 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.240 is their stack going to be set? How is their 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.280 board going to be set? You know, you've got to 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.520 make sure you put these guys in a spot where 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.880 you would absolutely take them. And that's the navigation part 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.120 of this. But like I used to said, there's a 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:38.720 lot of talking at the pro days. There's talking. There 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.360 was a lot of talking at the combine, and you've 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.640 got these general managers that are kind of visiting with 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:47.360 each other about Listen, I'm I'm interested in coming up. Hey, 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.200 don't forget me. If you're going back, I'll be here. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.880 You know, you just want to let everybody know kind 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:56.040 of where you stand right now. And that's kind of 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:57.320 the whisperings that we're hearing. 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:02.480 It really seems like there's a possibility for more movement 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.040 in this draft than even in years past, but there's 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:09.360 been little movement to this point. By usually combine pro 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:13.280 Day's owners meetings, you start seeing some sort of movement. 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.120 Let's say Minnesota wants to go up and get a quarterback. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.480 You can possibly see that Chicago is going to shop 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.200 that pick shop justin fields. Of course, they got rid 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.320 of justin fields. That's probably the number one thing, so 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.680 they're going to stay put at one. But Zach, when 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.279 you look at this first round, there's a domino that 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:30.480 needs to fall somewhere. 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:32.640 Who could that domino possibly? Yeah? 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.560 I mean, I think the quarterbacks the top are really 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.760 kind of driving a lot of the trade chatter, like 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.040 is Washington legitimately interested in JJ McCarthy, which is the 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.000 latest rumor that we're hearing a week ago it was 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:42.799 Jaden Daniels. 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:43.320 I don't know. 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.040 It seems like there's a lot of smoke screen. You 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.280 gotta go ahead and figure out what's the truth there. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.280 Are they maybe open to move back? Could they possibly? 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.760 You know, I think that they're new offensive coordinator Cliff 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.720 Kingsbury is very interested in Michael Pennix. I know that 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:57.560 he loves the way that he has the touch on 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.520 his deep ball. So would they be interested in moving back, 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.800 acquiring extra picks and then at the bottom of the 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.880 first round, or if they get an extra pick, maybe 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:06.720 early in the second of Penix is still on the board, 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:10.120 do they make that selection. Is New England actually wanting 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.039 to stay in and take a quarterback or to your point, 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.279 do they say, you know what, we do want to 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.919 acquire multiple picks and move back. Arizona is open for 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.599 business at four. So I really do think and to 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.599 your point, you're right, last year we saw, Hey, you 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.680 had the Carolina Panthers make that trade to move up, 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.080 and now they're in the position you had Philadelphia and 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.760 the Rams and that wentz Golf draft. They had already 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.840 solidified that. So maybe we still end up getting a 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.120 trade prior to the draft. But I do think that 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.400 the quarterbacks really kind of driving Okay, what's going to 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.360 happen at the top. Denver's an interesting team at twelve. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:43.920 I think they'd love to get up there and get 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.400 a quarterback as well. And then after that we can 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.480 kind of look at, Okay, where will some of these 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:52.200 offensive tackles fall, Because today there was an interesting report 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.360 about Ryan rams Check, the offensive tackle of the Saints, 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.120 and he might not be medically available to play this year. 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.120 Is that another team we got to look at. They 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.680 could be taking ahead of the Cowboys. They could now 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.480 be in the market to draft an offensive tackle. 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:06.440 Yeah, I think the I think the tackle might the 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.320 run at tackles might start at ten with the Jets. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.960 You know, we're starting to hear some whispers about them that, 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.000 you know, with their uh with their general manager coming 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.920 out and saying, listen, there's really a deep group of 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.760 these tackles here. So I would keep it. I would 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.000 keep a definite eye on the Jets at ten if 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.120 you're looking at offensive linemen. But they're good. 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.000 They got Tyrone Smith's going to be available for seventeen. 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:31.920 It's true Jets at ten, New Orleans at fourteen, could 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.960 Indye and Seattle at fifteen and sixteen take a tackle 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:36.960 interior linemen with Miami. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:40.200 And y'all, y'all, just y'all just keeping them going. And 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.040 for me, that's no, I'm saying, like, that's how many 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:45.960 people do really need tackles or to you know, fill 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.920 their offensive line. What I'm curious to see is who 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.840 hits the panic button when they start, because if there 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.480 is a run on tackles and that that you know, 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:59.520 ten to eighteen frame or whatever going into that latter 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.080 part of things, that's when the cowboys are coming up. 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:03.800 That's where some teams are, you know, that are a 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.120 little further along, and people's minds are coming up. And 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.680 I want to see if maybe that plays a role 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.080 in some of the decision making. If these tackles start 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:12.520 flying off the board really quickly. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.960 Yeah, I think everybody sees these tackles differently, you know, 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.320 and maybe to you know, you use the word panic, 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:21.520 and I kind of said, I think, I think, no, 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.600 she's onto something. But also there's a side of me that, like, 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.120 you know what, I could take your tackle list. I 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.240 take all our tackle lists, and I guarantee you they're 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:34.080 all different, and so maybe you don't, maybe you don't panic, 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.880 maybe you're like, they didn't take our guy. They didn't 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:40.200 take our guys. They once again didn't take our guy here. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.760 So everybody sees these guys differently. It's it's almost like 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.920 that to me, where you know were the thing is. 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.040 I was going to circle back real quick if I 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.520 could about the Minnesota trying to get up. There was 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.840 an idea of floating that Minnesota would say, if they 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.200 can't get Justin Jefferson done, they would make him part 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:01.240 of a trade package. So could Minnesota package their own 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:05.680 pick at could they package eleven Justin Jefferson or could 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:10.720 they package Justin Jefferson in twenty three and go up? So, man, 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:14.600 when you start to hear that, that's serious. When you're saying, hey, 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.680 the best wide receiver in football, sure to in a 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.040 lot of circles is part of a now a trade 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.520 package to go up and get a quarterback. This is 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.640 some serious business going on. But I think this tackle run, 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.160 like I say, everybody's gonna look at it and they're 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.640 gonna go, oh, they got my guy or they didn't 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.719 get my guy there. And so I think I think 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.240 you can see a lot of teams sit and see 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.319 how this tackle market the quarterbacks. I think you have 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:42.600 to go because you have to get your guy got 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:47.079 the tackle. I think you sit because there's more, there's 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:51.040 more of a. There's not as clear of a that's 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.360 the first guy, that's the second guy, that's the third guy. 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.160 And if you're the Cowboys at twenty four, is that 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.319 that that's probably a good situation for you because you're 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.600 now looking at Okay, and you've made this point, Brian 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.720 with Tyler Smith. If you come away with an offensive tackle, 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.760 then you feel good. You can leave Tyler Smith at guard. 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.480 If you don't, you've got a contingency to keep him. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.720 And if you do get a run where the tackles 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.840 that they like are gone. Now you're sitting in Okay, 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.400 here's the trade back window that's open now because we 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.480 can fall back, maybe get our center, Maybe Edrin Cooper, 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.199 the linebacker from A and M starts to be come 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.800 in play. Maybe if a Byron Murphy slides the defensive 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.760 tackle out of Texas, all of a sudden, more options 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.439 I think are opened. If you do have a run 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.800 on tackle and you get wiped to that position. 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:33.839 You each bring up a different point. You talked about 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.600 teams that could move up. You talked about teams that 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.199 are going to trade elite level talent to move up, 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.040 like potentially move off to Jafferson, and you talk about 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.800 the Cowboys. Is there a potential and I'm talking like 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:51.120 sky high, crazy scenario, absolutely off the wall, that Dallas 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.600 would take some elite potential. Let's say Micah Parsons, a 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.640 guy that they're gonna have to pay coming up, ceedeelamb 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:58.760 one of these two that you have to pay coming up, 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.240 and you do package them together and say, hey, we're 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.800 already in cap trouble. Let's go up and get a guy. 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.560 Let's go up and try and take multiple picks. I 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:10.079 know it's crazy, but we're talking about justin Jefferson being 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:10.439 traded in. 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.679 And I tell you what I got in a lot 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.480 of trouble, you know, on the break one day talking 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.360 about Micah Parsons and the possibility of trading. He is 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.040 the best commodity, you have no doubt, you know, He's 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:23.520 the one that you would that people look at and 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.920 they But the problem that you run into the problem 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.080 you run into here is if you're a team that's 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:34.280 willing to give premium assets to go get Micah Parsons. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:39.480 The problem is, you know you have to pay him. Yeah, 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.440 and you're giving up premium assets. Look what Snead went 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:46.400 for with Kansas City. Yes, we're all surprised. The corner 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.440 at Kansas City also goes for next year's three and 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:50.160 we're going. 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:51.840 Well, wait a minute, why because you gotta pay him. 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.199 Got to pay him. See now, if you had Micah 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:58.160 Parsons under contract for a couple more years, then maybe 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.080 it makes a little bit more sense for somebody. But 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.960 I wonder, how much, though, can you honestly get for MICHAEH. 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:09.000 Parsons If knowing that A, I'm gonna have to give 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.480 up premium assets likely a one and I'm or maybe 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.920 a couple of ones, and B I've got to pay 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.640 this guy, that to me is a that's a move 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.400 a general manager makes if he's got security that he 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.160 knows that, you know, I can make this trade and 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.040 that could put me over the top. But that's that 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.240 is a premium ass set. I mean, that is big 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.120 picture thinking right now, folks. I mean you could say 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.800 crazy and all this that, but if you're the Dallas 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.520 Cowboys and players continually walking out the door, and all 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.040 of a sudden, you need you need players that can 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.520 help you right now that you know first round guys, 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:49.000 you know that that that's an option. You have to 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.440 look at it, especially if you feel like we probably 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.720 Michael Parsons is going to be the highest non paid 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.120 quarterback in the league. Yes, and so get ready for that. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.120 And can the Cowboys. I'm sure that they've thought about 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.280 this long and hard, but if you had to do 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.840 it right now, you would probably say, man, we probably 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.640 can't replace him, but we need to get something. Now 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.880 they've done this. You know, we've talked about Dak a bunch. Yeah, 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.840 right now, they're just looking at a compensatory three for Dak. 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.000 That's it. You know, if they let this thing play 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.040 out and let it get the free agency, that's it. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.280 That also brings up another branch to that topic tree 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.960 for me, where okay, everybody is kind of going into 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.400 this year where it we'll see like there's no you 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.959 brought up job security, there's no security. There's so many 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:39.160 of these players, Dak included, and this coaching staff. Does 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:41.679 that kind of change any of the drafting When you're 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.760 looking at Okay, I'm talking to an Al Harris or 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.120 you know some of your offensive line coaches or whoever 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.080 it might be the receivers coach Robert Prince, and you're like, Okay, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:51.400 who are some guys that you like? 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.160 They're like, well, you know, I like this guy that guy. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.120 I don't know if I have a multiple years to 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.520 really teach and get out some of the warts from 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.680 these players. So I need more play that are ready 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.640 to hit the ground running then project type of players. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.360 I wonder what it does for the I mean when 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.760 I think about what does it do for the culture, 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.920 and like the way the team feels when it's a 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.080 lot of uncertainty like that, is that a healthy thing 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:16.040 to go into a season with. 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.280 I think you have a lot of people over there 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:22.000 aisha like Zach said that the players, it's a really 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:27.319 players live that every day. Though players live change potentially 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.560 every day, because you could get to the you could 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.000 get to the trade deadline then all of a sudden. 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:34.920 I mean, the players talk about the pressure and the 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:39.160 stress that they feel dealing with that. The uncertainty to 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.920 me is when you're working in a front office or 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.080 you're a coach and now you're thinking, like, man, do 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.160 I need to start thinking about talking to people at 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.000 these pro days about a job next year? Do I 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.280 need to think about Okay, I've got a couple of 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.559 kids in school, do I try and sell the house now? 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.560 You know? I mean that's the uncertainty that you live 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:03.319 with is coach and none of those guys can feel 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:08.240 very comfortable right now that their situation. You know, hopefully 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.520 Mike Zimmer comes in and the new coaches and you know, 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.439 things can kind of turn around. I mean, defensively, they 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.640 have to play better than they did against Green Bay. 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.680 Had to have to play better that way. Can Mike McCarthy, 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.320 Brian Schottenheimer. Can they find a way to get another 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.360 MVP type of year out of Dak Prescott? But there 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.240 is so much uncertainty right now with this football team 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:31.880 that it's I think it's a very very fragile situation 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:32.440 for them. 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.080 And does it also to play on play in two 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.520 When we start getting into training camp and there's depth 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.400 conversations and stuff like that, who's going to be the 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.040 guy who's going to start, who's going to be backup guys? 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.280 Because if you're trying to make you know, do some 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.680 good for your resume. You're not about to be taking 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.800 as many chances on some of these guys. Maybe some 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.480 of these players right, and see your point, Zach, and 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.840 they're going to need production from their first three picks 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.840 almost immediately league, Yeah, maybe immediately. 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:02.200 Yeah. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:04.000 Now you've got a situation where you got a lot 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.800 your top three picks from last year all coming off injuries. 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.080 Now you just had Scooney and Mazzie. We find out they. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.680 Have shoulder surgery, and you are asking you need them 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.040 to come in and be immediate contributors next year. You 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.240 needed them this last year, which you definitely do next year. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.000 Well, how about the guys like Sam Williams and Shulbert 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:23.520 and others like that. They, yeah, those guys need to 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.760 step up too. I mean, we focus on what happened 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.880 last year, but they have some other guys that need 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.160 to that need to step up clearly. And you know, 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.040 and to your guys point as well as a coaching staff, 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.200 you might you might sit there and say, you know, 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.760 we can't afford to have a left tackle here that's 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.720 a rookie because it might affect, you know, if our 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.240 jobs are on the line. Even though Dallas has a 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.520 great history of plug and play players. You know, coaches 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.040 might say, you know what, we've got this Tyler Smith 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.080 that could play left tackle. You know, may know who TJ. 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.840 Mass is. Yeah, that's that's the thing. That's the kind 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.560 of thing coaches, if their jobs are on the line, 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.560 maybe they're not going to sit there and say we're 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.840 not an inter just didn't playing in developing like you 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.080 guys are talking sure. 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:04.560 I mean sorry. 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:05.080 Yeah. 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.120 Well another person that just came to mind with me 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.280 is even Overshown. Yeah, is the fact that he's coming 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.440 off of an ACL It is gonna take him time. 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:15.760 And I do think I will say about him, his 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.080 athleticism is so off the charge that I do think 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.400 that he's a step down would still he still be 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.560 explosive to some extent. So, but I was just thinking 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.520 about him coming in and Zim coming in with his 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:28.080 system and. 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:29.600 What he maybe wants to do with linebackers. 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.080 Is he going to feel like he has time for 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.480 this this, you know, for him to get comfortable. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.560 I think over shown will show is what he's capable of. 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.080 But I will say that to me makes a difference 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:40.760 as well as having some of these guys coming off 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:44.360 injuries how patient are they going to be if this 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.360 defense needs to take a step forward? 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.880 You know the next year Trayvon Diggs right there as well. 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:51.280 You need all of those guys to step up. And 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:56.600 speaking on de Marvin Overshown, with the new kickoff rule change, 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:01.040 he could be an elite special teams individual. 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:02.440 You need him on defense. 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.000 But you talk about a size to speed as athleticism 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.400 and the way that that defense or that kickoff scenario 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:09.280 is going to work out, You're gonna need him to 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.280 step up in that regard as well. There's a lot 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.360 of things that need to fall into place. But when 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.760 we're talking about scenarios in the first round, I don't 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.320 think anything is off the table. 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:18.679 No, I think it's all. 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:19.639 On the table at this point. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.680 And I think that's also a testament to the number 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.560 of first round picks that will first round players that 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:26.600 we deem in this draft. 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.120 It's to me it's. 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:31.760 Considerably more than it was last year, where most people 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.200 could barely get out the teams how many people they thought. 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:36.160 So that plays the fat. 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:37.720 We haven't brought that up in a while. I'm glad 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.080 you brought that up now that you're further along in 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.320 your evaluation of this draft class. Where do you have 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.800 your your first round grades? How many do you have? 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:47.960 I would say, let me see. 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:51.600 Achnology stale twenty two. 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:53.600 You've got twenty two first round grades. 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:53.840 That's it. 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.680 That's wild. And last year what was it like fifteen 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:57.159 or sixteen? 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.520 I think I had eighteen eighteen last year. Okay, so 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.879 you're up by four. Twenty three, okay, that's. 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:03.240 What I got. 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.560 I have twenty three, so yeah, maybe I have twenty 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.680 four ish. In question, you've got to get along that 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:11.560 anxiety and up. 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:15.159 You've got one of those cheater grades. 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:16.600 It's a one one dash too. 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.880 I've learned that from I've learned that from Dane Burglar. 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.480 Dave Burglar is the fame with Dane will throw a 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.560 three four at you everyone. So you're like, okay, where 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:24.840 does he? 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:25.240 Please? 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:26.960 Wait, we can do that. Sounds good to me. 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:29.960 Yeah, how many does that give you? Now? 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.480