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Speaker 2: Today is Tuesday, March twenty sixth, twenty twenty four. And

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Speaker 2: I tried to fast forward to this point last week

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Speaker 2: because there is thirty days until the NFL droved. Thirty days,

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Speaker 2: thirty days officials. It didn't not for me.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's because I was new. It did not go

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Speaker 3: by this fast.

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Speaker 2: You were along for the ride last year.

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Speaker 4: I got my.

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Speaker 2: You did a great we always get it.

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Speaker 3: It is flying like I just can't believe it. I

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Speaker 3: feel like Combine came and went Senior Bowl, snuck up

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Speaker 3: on his real quick too.

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Speaker 4: I remember that we're.

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Speaker 2: In the annual meetings today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, drafting real quick.

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Speaker 2: Croda's are like almost over with.

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Speaker 3: Don't say that I'm baddy, but keep your ears low

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Speaker 3: to the ground because this is when you start hearing

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Speaker 3: a little shuttle every now and then.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by Miller Lay the

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Speaker 2: taste you can depend on.

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Speaker 5: She's Ayisha Morrison.

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Speaker 2: We've got Brian brought us, Zach Wilchuk, Chris Beam in

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Speaker 2: the back, I'm Kyle Yeoman's Nick Harris, Bobby Belt out

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Speaker 2: this week, Nick is at the owner's meeting. He's actually

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Speaker 2: talking to head coach Mike McCarthy as we speak. So

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Speaker 2: we'll get some good insight from Nick here over the

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Speaker 2: next couple of days. But here we go, Brian, you

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Speaker 2: start hearing some rumblings, You start hearing some rumors and

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Speaker 2: even from the front office, some draft possible strategies. Whenever

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Speaker 5: It, Yeah, there's people just throwing some chum in the

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Speaker 5: water right now and seeing if you're interested in coming

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Speaker 5: up or maybe you know, going back if I know.

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Speaker 5: There was a big article yesterday at ESPN about how

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Speaker 5: Minnesota was going to navigate to get to and they

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Speaker 5: threw out a lot of different possibilities of trying to

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Speaker 5: get it. All really hinged on that third spot where

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Speaker 5: New England and my friend Elliott Wolf is now running

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Speaker 5: their draft. And the thing about Elliott is he knows

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Speaker 5: his roster needs talent, and he also knows he needs

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Speaker 5: a quarterback, but can you entice him? There were a

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Speaker 5: couple of different scenarios where man it was and again ESPN,

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Speaker 5: I thought I did a really good job Dan Grasiano

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Speaker 5: and these guys of kind of playing it out that

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe some double trades involved, maybe trades was

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Speaker 5: spot then trade again to get there. You know, some

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Speaker 5: next year's ones involved. You know, people are trying to

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Speaker 5: right now figure out and not everybody's put together their board,

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Speaker 5: so you really you know where the players are graded

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Speaker 5: when you look at your spreadsheets, you know where there

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Speaker 5: are the possibility that got as could be your understanding

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Speaker 5: where the pockets are of players. But now it's going

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Speaker 5: to be about, okay, how do I get in range

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Speaker 5: to get specific players? And I'm not asking you to

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Speaker 5: window dress your board, but I think some of the

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Speaker 5: cowboys are going to have to look at is, you know,

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Speaker 5: with some of the needs that they do have, how

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Speaker 5: is their stack going to be set? How is their

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Speaker 5: make sure you put these guys in a spot where

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Speaker 5: you would absolutely take them. And that's the navigation part

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Speaker 5: of this. But like I used to said, there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of talking at the pro days. There's talking. There

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Speaker 5: was a lot of talking at the combine, and you've

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Speaker 5: got these general managers that are kind of visiting with

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Speaker 5: each other about Listen, I'm I'm interested in coming up. Hey,

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Speaker 5: don't forget me. If you're going back, I'll be here.

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Speaker 5: You know, you just want to let everybody know kind

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Speaker 5: the whisperings that we're hearing.

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Speaker 2: It really seems like there's a possibility for more movement

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Speaker 2: been little movement to this point. By usually combine pro

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Speaker 2: Let's say Minnesota wants to go up and get a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You can possibly see that Chicago is going to shop

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Speaker 2: they're going to stay put at one. But Zach, when

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Speaker 2: you look at this first round, there's a domino that

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Speaker 5: Who could that domino possibly? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think the quarterbacks the top are really

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Speaker 6: is Washington legitimately interested in JJ McCarthy, which is the

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Speaker 6: latest rumor that we're hearing a week ago it was

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: It seems like there's a lot of smoke screen. You

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Speaker 6: Are they maybe open to move back? Could they possibly?

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Speaker 6: You know, I think that they're new offensive coordinator Cliff

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Speaker 6: Kingsbury is very interested in Michael Pennix. I know that

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Speaker 6: do they make that selection. Is New England actually wanting

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Speaker 6: do they say, you know what, we do want to

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Speaker 6: your point, you're right, last year we saw, Hey, you

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Speaker 6: had the Carolina Panthers make that trade to move up,

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Speaker 6: and now they're in the position you had Philadelphia and

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Speaker 6: the Rams and that wentz Golf draft. They had already

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Speaker 6: solidified that. So maybe we still end up getting a

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Speaker 6: kind of look at, Okay, where will some of these

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Speaker 6: Is that another team we got to look at. They

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the I think the tackle might the

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Speaker 5: keep a definite eye on the Jets at ten if

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Speaker 2: They got Tyrone Smith's going to be available for seventeen.

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Speaker 6: It's true Jets at ten, New Orleans at fourteen, could

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Speaker 3: And y'all, y'all, just y'all just keeping them going. And

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Speaker 3: That's where some teams are, you know, that are a

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Speaker 3: I want to see if maybe that plays a role

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think everybody sees these tackles differently, you know,

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Speaker 5: and I kind of said, I think, I think, no,

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Speaker 5: you know what, I could take your tackle list. I

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Speaker 5: take all our tackle lists, and I guarantee you they're

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Speaker 5: all different, and so maybe you don't, maybe you don't panic,

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Speaker 5: maybe you're like, they didn't take our guy. They didn't

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Speaker 5: So everybody sees these guys differently. It's it's almost like

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Speaker 5: can't get Justin Jefferson done, they would make him part

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Speaker 5: of a trade package. So could Minnesota package their own

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Speaker 5: when you start to hear that, that's serious. When you're saying, hey,

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Speaker 5: lot of circles is part of a now a trade

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Speaker 5: some serious business going on. But I think this tackle run,

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Speaker 5: how this tackle market the quarterbacks. I think you have

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Speaker 5: the tackle. I think you sit because there's more, there's

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Speaker 5: more of a. There's not as clear of a that's

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Speaker 6: And if you're the Cowboys at twenty four, is that

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Speaker 6: that that's probably a good situation for you because you're

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Speaker 6: now looking at Okay, and you've made this point, Brian

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Speaker 6: with Tyler Smith. If you come away with an offensive tackle,

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Speaker 6: then you feel good. You can leave Tyler Smith at guard.

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Speaker 6: If you don't, you've got a contingency to keep him.

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Speaker 6: And if you do get a run where the tackles

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Speaker 6: here's the trade back window that's open now because we

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Speaker 6: can fall back, maybe get our center, Maybe Edrin Cooper,

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Speaker 6: in play. Maybe if a Byron Murphy slides the defensive

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Speaker 6: I think are opened. If you do have a run

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Speaker 2: You each bring up a different point. You talked about

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Speaker 2: teams that could move up. You talked about teams that

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Speaker 2: are going to trade elite level talent to move up,

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Speaker 2: like potentially move off to Jafferson, and you talk about

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Is there a potential and I'm talking like

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Speaker 2: sky high, crazy scenario, absolutely off the wall, that Dallas

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Speaker 2: would take some elite potential. Let's say Micah Parsons, a

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Speaker 2: guy that they're gonna have to pay coming up, ceedeelamb

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Speaker 2: one of these two that you have to pay coming up,

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Speaker 2: and you do package them together and say, hey, we're

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Speaker 2: already in cap trouble. Let's go up and get a guy.

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Speaker 2: Let's go up and try and take multiple picks. I

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Speaker 2: know it's crazy, but we're talking about justin Jefferson being

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Speaker 5: And I tell you what I got in a lot

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Speaker 5: of trouble, you know, on the break one day talking

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Speaker 5: about Micah Parsons and the possibility of trading. He is

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Speaker 5: the best commodity, you have no doubt, you know, He's

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Speaker 5: the one that you would that people look at and

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Speaker 5: Got to pay him. See now, if you had Micah

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Speaker 5: Had to have to play better that way. Can Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 3: And does it also to play on play in two

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Speaker 3: When we start getting into training camp and there's depth

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Speaker 3: Because if you're trying to make you know, do some

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Speaker 3: they're going to need production from their first three picks

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Speaker 6: Now you've got a situation where you got a lot

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Speaker 5: Well, how about the guys like Sam Williams and Shulbert

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Speaker 4: I mean sorry.

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Speaker 4: What he maybe wants to do with linebackers.

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Speaker 4: I think over shown will show is what he's capable of.

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Speaker 3: But I will say that to me makes a difference

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Speaker 2: You know the next year Trayvon Diggs right there as well.

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Speaker 5: You need him on defense.

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Speaker 2: But you talk about a size to speed as athleticism

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Speaker 5: No, I think it's all.

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Speaker 2: On the table at this point.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's also a testament to the number

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Speaker 4: It's to me it's.

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Speaker 3: Considerably more than it was last year, where most people

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Speaker 4: So that plays the fat.

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Speaker 2: We haven't brought that up in a while. I'm glad

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Speaker 2: you brought that up now that you're further along in

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Speaker 4: I would say, let me see.

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Speaker 5: Achnology stale twenty two.

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Speaker 2: You've got twenty two first round grades.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's wild. And last year what was it like fifteen

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Speaker 5: I think I had eighteen eighteen last year. Okay, so

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Speaker 5: you're up by four. Twenty three, okay, that's.

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Speaker 2: What I got.

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Speaker 3: I have twenty three, so yeah, maybe I have twenty

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Speaker 3: four ish. In question, you've got to get along that

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Speaker 5: You've got one of those cheater grades.

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Speaker 2: It's a one one dash too.

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Speaker 5: I've learned that from I've learned that from Dane Burglar.

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Speaker 5: Dave Burglar is the fame with Dane will throw a

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Speaker 5: does he?

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Speaker 8: Please?

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Speaker 5: Wait, we can do that. Sounds good to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how many does that give you? Now?

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Speaker 5: If I did that, it would add two more I got.

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Speaker 6: I got a couple of tackles that are like fringe there,

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Speaker 5: In the Marius Mems.

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Speaker 2: They're both right there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're both in the first round or second. I

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Speaker 3: That's what I was That's something I saw this week

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Speaker 2: I get that that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that kind of plays into what Brian was

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Speaker 6: They do well, that's a rock, right, That's one where

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Speaker 5: Boarder Fagail shoot fashion, no guiding and Latham okay he

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Speaker 5: See I'm hearing whispers that I'm hearing whispers about Morgan

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Speaker 2: Lot of teams do look at them that way.

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Speaker 5: Front of Latham.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've got Altashanu, Fuaga, Latham, and then Fatanu, So yeah,

440
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Speaker 2: all different.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that law firm of all those f Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, I have Altu Fuaga and then I have Latham.

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Speaker 2: Git there you go, there you go. Yeah, so everybody's different.

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Speaker 2: Everybody sees these ts.

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, Yeah, it's gonna be crazy if we all

446
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Speaker 5: got a crack at the first one. We always put

447
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Speaker 5: Latham up there, but I mean it's gonna be not Latham,

448
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Speaker 5: but all alt all would be first. And then after

449
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Speaker 5: that it's throw them in a hat and draw them.

450
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Speaker 5: And I think you'd be pretty happy with any one

451
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Speaker 5: of the guys you draw. Yeah, I mean I really do.

452
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't. I wouldn't have a problem with you know,

453
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Speaker 5: like I say that the Washington tackle. I think is

454
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Speaker 5: I think is really I think is really really good.

455
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Speaker 5: The thing with Morgan, you know, the more you talk

456
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Speaker 5: to people, they're like, he's a guard. He's a guard.

457
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Speaker 5: He's a guard. He's a guard. He's a guard, you know.

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Speaker 5: And then I talked with scout out in the league

459
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Speaker 5: that does the Southeast. It said that, and I think

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Speaker 5: I said this to you guys earlier. He said, Latham

461
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Speaker 5: from Alabama goes, I don't know if he could be

462
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Speaker 5: a left tackle, but I think he'd be an All

463
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Speaker 5: Pro guard. So you know, there's people maybe maybe when

464
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Speaker 5: we at the end of this, when people kind of

465
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Speaker 5: reveal what their board was, that some of these tackles

466
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Speaker 5: will be over on the guard side of the board

467
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Speaker 5: and they really didn't never consider him as tackles.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that Latham conversation deals with the fact

469
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Speaker 2: that he's he is a bit heavier, set three forty

470
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Speaker 2: two at the combine and they're all giants.

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Speaker 5: All these guys are giants. I mean, I think you.

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Speaker 2: Look at the guys around him, three twenty one, three twelve,

473
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Speaker 2: three twenty four, three seventeen, and they got mems that's

474
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Speaker 2: three forty and Latham. That's three forty two.

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Speaker 5: So there, I mean there, I would say when he

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Speaker 5: pounds off. I think the fact that he went from

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Speaker 5: like I was looking, I know, we were all looking

478
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Speaker 5: at him as a three hundred and sixty pound guy

479
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 5: on tape and now he's the three hundred and forty

480
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Speaker 5: two pound guy. Hopefully he could find a way to

481
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Speaker 5: get down to three thirty three or something like that.

482
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Speaker 5: But man, I mean the guy plays really well. I

483
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Speaker 5: don't see a balanced prom at all. And see everybody

484
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Speaker 5: compares him to like Evan Neil, you know, like well

485
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Speaker 5: no in a way of like no, no, the massive team. Yeah,

486
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Speaker 5: well you know, see they had a chance, they had

487
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Speaker 5: a chance to move when Elvan Neil graduated. They had

488
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Speaker 5: a chance to move Latham to left tackle, and they

489
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Speaker 5: didn't do it. And they didn't want to weaken two

490
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Speaker 5: positions is what they were looking at, and so that's

491
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Speaker 5: why he played right tackle. It's like they said, listen,

492
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Speaker 5: we'll find But man, I just I kind of I

493
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Speaker 5: see a better player than Evan Neil with Latham. Yeah,

494
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Speaker 5: I think that's what I that's I mean, I you know,

495
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Speaker 5: Evan Neil, And I'm not just saying because what I'm

496
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Speaker 5: seeing in the pros. I just see a better Latham.

497
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Speaker 5: I think is a better player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Darnell Right, that was my comp to him. I

499
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Speaker 2: think he's more closer to a Darnell Right because of

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Speaker 2: the lank, the athleticism, the power, the.

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Speaker 6: Consistency, a little bit of the violence and aggression in

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Speaker 6: his game. I mean, I did write in my notes,

503
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Speaker 6: I wonder if you can kick inside be a good guard.

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Speaker 6: I think he can be an elite right tackle, but

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure he could ever play on the left,

506
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Speaker 6: and it might just be an athleticism thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, gotta be able to play on an island. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: all right.

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Speaker 2: Beamer in the back. Okay, there was a lot of

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Speaker 2: tackle and so a lot of these fans have really

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Speaker 2: lined up with those. We're gonna start with defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: Jake wants to know with the rehab news on Monzie

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Speaker 2: be ready for training camp, says Mike McCarthy. But are

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Speaker 2: we still writing off defensive tackle early in this draft?

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Speaker 5: Not at all.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 6: I mean, as I mentioned earlier, especially if you trade

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Speaker 6: back and all of a sudden, you know, maybe maybe

592
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Speaker 6: a Johnny Newton comes into play from Illinois who's a

593
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Speaker 6: hell of a player, Byron Murphy starts to slide from Texas.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we've talked quite a bit on the g

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Speaker 6: I love Braydon Fisk out of Florida State. Yeah, I

597
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Speaker 6: wouldn't mind him, you know, in the second round. I

598
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Speaker 6: don't know if you could wait and get him in

599
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Speaker 6: the third. But there's several of these guys and if

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Speaker 6: you wanted to wait until the you know, day two.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we know some of the guys that they've

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Speaker 6: met with, you know, whether it's a Mason Smith from

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Speaker 6: LSU who's an intriguing player as well.

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Speaker 2: Is there a scenario where you could see a defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle going to Dallas in the first round or is

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Speaker 2: that pretty much out the door at this point with

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Speaker 2: offensive line.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think it just really depends on what if Zimmer

610
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Speaker 3: has to say so, and some of the stuff going on,

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Speaker 3: because good lord, you don't have any DT depth right now.

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Speaker 4: It's not funny. I don't find it amusing at all.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you legitimately don't have any depth at that

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Speaker 3: position right now. And to with Zimmer in the way

615
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Speaker 3: he likes to play football, it is front seven.

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Speaker 4: That's a problem.

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Speaker 3: And you really the window was kind of closed to

618
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Speaker 3: be able to get a veteran guy unless you're going

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Speaker 3: to do a June first whatever situation. But have mercy

620
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Speaker 3: you might have to. I know, like it shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: a need or whatever. But I'm sweating.

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Speaker 4: A little bit over here in his jacket.

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Speaker 3: So I do want to ask y'all, because it's intriguing

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Speaker 3: to me. Is Newton light years above Byron Murphy? Are

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Speaker 3: some people going to look at these guys and think that,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the explosiveness is similar.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like some people might.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I know a couple of people that have

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Speaker 6: Newton as a top ten player for them in the

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Speaker 6: entire draft. Some people really love Newton. I think they're

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Speaker 6: pretty close. I mean, I think Byron Murphy's an absolute

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Speaker 6: freak show. I love both those I think Byron Murphy's

633
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Speaker 6: a top fifteen player. I think Newton's probably a top

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Speaker 6: twenty five player. They're both very good.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. When you look at Newton, it's the size and athleticism,

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Speaker 2: whereas Murphy could probably put on a little bit of size,

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Speaker 2: you know, to make it work. But I compared Jishan

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Speaker 2: Newton to Nick tomikin Sue Like. I think he's just

640
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Speaker 2: just a game wrecker.

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Speaker 5: That's just what he does.

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Speaker 6: Is in his ability to maintain the double teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean he can. He can hold blogs plays with

644
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Speaker 6: great leverage, controls the line of scrimmage. I think he

645
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Speaker 6: can move up like a piano player. I learned that

646
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Speaker 6: term Bryan last Wow, I can play up and down

647
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Speaker 6: the line. Yeah. So, I mean the guy and he's

648
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Speaker 6: a team captain. I think he's just super intelligent. The

649
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Speaker 6: way that he uses his hands hand fighting. For me,

650
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Speaker 6: we've talked about that the last couple of years since

651
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Speaker 6: we've been on the show, Aisha, but I mean that

652
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Speaker 6: stands out. I mean I think that means you're a

653
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Speaker 6: guy that can come in and really hit the ground

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Speaker 6: running at the NFL because a lot of players that

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Speaker 6: take some time to develop. But his ability also to

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Speaker 6: show awareness to get his hands up in passing lanes,

657
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 6: which is and knocked the ball down.

658
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 5: I think he's one of the best things that he does.

659
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was very impressed with his tape

660
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: last year and he jumped off the page, and so

661
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: this year I felt like this last season, I still

662
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: feel like he played well, but last year was just

663
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. I felt like he really really impressed

664
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: me more last year. But it is what it is

665
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: that the Illinois defense has a lot of guys on it.

666
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 5: You guys looking for one or three.

667
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 6: I'd like to find a guy that can be a

668
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 6: little interchangeable, because I think they need that. But I

669
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 6: think more so I'm looking at more of the bigger

670
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 6: bodied than the like then than the Leonard Taylor out

671
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 6: of Miami really quick.

672
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: I think I would have a true nose. True, that's

673
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: what I want.

674
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 3: That's me because I think we got a little fancy

675
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 3: smashy with the tweiners. Yes, yeah, And I think that's

676
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: what's hurts you in this last couple of years is

677
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: a lot of the tweeners and things like that.

678
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 5: I think that's why I.

679
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 6: Like Braidon fists because I think he can be a one,

680
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 6: even though he weighed in a little bit.

681
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 5: Lighter than he looks when you watch him play.

682
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: I'm tired, but he's got passed. I want a big

683
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: body in the middle.

684
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 7: Right.

685
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 5: Boy, disruptive though, Man, what do you want?

686
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: Brian?

687
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 5: You know what I mean to me? I I like

688
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 5: these three techniques here. I don't trust Mason Smith. And

689
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. That's from my alma ma. You know him, Yeah,

690
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 5: and we watched him. And the thing about it is,

691
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 5: I'll tell you a guy I really like. I like

692
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 5: McKinley Jackson from Texas A and M six two three

693
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 5: twenty six. And I see a guy that plays on

694
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 5: the other side of the line of scrimmage. Yeah, you know.

695
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 5: I mean he is, you know, but he's not a

696
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 5: first round guy. He's not a second round guy. I mean,

697
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 5: maybe somebody will take him, maybe a little bit earlier.

698
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 5: Maybe this may will take him a second just because

699
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 5: there's not a lot of depth at the one. But

700
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 5: to me, this is an explosive guy, and I that's

701
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 5: what I feel like. This give me the explosive guy

702
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 5: paired with Osa. You know, we need Osa to play

703
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 5: more than thirteen games. He gets tired because he plays

704
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 5: so damn hard. The whole game just brought this up before.

705
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 5: When he plays next to somebody that's really, really good,

706
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 5: it helps him, you know, it helps him to take

707
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 5: some of the pressure off him. But man, I McKinley

708
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 5: Jackson to me, if you know, if I can't get Fisk,

709
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 5: and you know, like I say, we talked about Mason

710
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 5: Smith and I'm I'm out on that one. I'm out

711
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 5: on Mason Smith. But McKinley Jackson, that's a guy that

712
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 5: I would that would take a take a crack at.

713
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 5: And he doesn't have to be It doesn't have to

714
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 5: be a first or second round guy. I think this

715
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 5: is probably a third round guy, maybe maybe a fourth

716
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 5: round guy, maybe the start of the second or the

717
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 5: third day. But this guy is a hell of a

718
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 5: football player. He really really is.

719
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. He's six foot two three and twenty six pounds. Yeah,

720
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 2: and I mean played a lot of zero techniques and

721
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: he played.

722
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 5: He played, He can anchor down, he's good against double teams.

723
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 5: I mean, explosive, he's got.

724
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 4: Penetration.

725
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 5: For give me that guy. Give me somebody. I mean,

726
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 5: I trust me. If Cowboy Nation and maybe all of us,

727
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 5: if they have to use another first round pick on

728
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 5: a on a one technique. You know it's gonna be like, damn,

729
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 5: didn't we just do this?

730
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: It will I mean, it make some people.

731
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 5: But but I'm not saying anything. Is a damn good

732
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 5: player from Florida State. You watch him, You watch him.

733
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 5: He is disruptive. He gets down the line, he throws

734
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 5: blockers aside, he gets in in the pocket. He could

735
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 5: run guys down. Just watch the Senior Bowl drills. When

736
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 5: he's going against really good competition on this offensive line,

737
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 5: he's he's wrecking shop there. So yeah, I mean to me,

738
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: I know, we we've talked about the other guys. To me,

739
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 5: the other guys that you're visiting about, you know, when

740
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 5: you start to talk about Newton and got Jenkins from Michigan,

741
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 5: guys like that, Murphy, those are all three techniques to me.

742
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 5: You know, this team needs somebody that's a badass at

743
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 5: one and it's unfortunate that the guy they drafted last

744
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 5: year was dealing with a lot of things. You know,

745
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 5: he just wasn't he just wasn't up to the task

746
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: right now, and hopefully you'll figure that out.

747
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of the topics of conversation. Steven

748
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: Jones talked about he could they can maybe look at

749
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: adding a veteran in that room, but the defensive tackle

750
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: is definitely a position where they're going to look at

751
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: in the draft. Same thing can be said for running back.

752
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: He talked about Jonathan Brooks extensively. His quote says, it

753
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: always helps when one of the doctors are very familiar

754
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: with does the surgery.

755
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 5: He's going to be picking the second round for the Cowboys,

756
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 5: that'd be very do you think so? Yeah, I mean,

757
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 5: just connect dots. Doctor Cooper did the surgery. He's a

758
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 5: hell of this kid's a hell of a football player.

759
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: Doctor Cooper, he did he did the surgery for if

760
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 5: you remember for for Smith. You know our linebacker way

761
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 5: back in the day. You know, yeah, Jalen Jalen Jones Smith.

762
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 5: So you know, doctor Cooper's there to tell Jim Mowers

763
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 5: got the medical information. They know when the rehab is.

764
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 5: You know, they went and they sent a guy, They

765
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 5: sent their coach to Austin to work these guys out.

766
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 5: He had dinner with the guy. He's a thirty visit guy.

767
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 5: If this ain't lining up like a Cowboy pick, potentially

768
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 5: at fifty six. I don't know what is you know,

769
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 5: maybe people think he's the third round guy. I don't.

770
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 5: I'm in the second.

771
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 2: Round of him in the second yeah, I mean yeah,

772
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he lasts to eighties.

773
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 6: No, I think him bent probably go off the board

774
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 6: in the second round. I mean it was a clean

775
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 6: tear in the ACL. They seem to think that he

776
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 6: could be ready to go for training camp, which is positive.

777
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 6: So he's a hell of a player. If it weren't

778
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 6: for the ACL, I'd have no question about making that

779
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 6: pick at fifty six.

780
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: But I'm with you.

781
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 6: It seems like it is trending in that direction, and

782
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 6: in the second round. The Cowboys have a history of

783
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 6: doing that with guys coming off of injury.

784
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: Can I definitely want to I want to ask you

785
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: guys though with and I could be wrong, but with

786
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 3: how the running back position is starting to look.

787
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 4: Like is being valued?

788
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: Is like get what you need to get out of

789
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: your first contract. Because these teams are doing by committee,

790
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: there's unfortunately less value for the position. Does that make you,

791
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: as a scout or as a team a little more like, well,

792
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: less nervous to take a guy with an ACL or

793
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: a past aco or something because unfortunately, and I'm not

794
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: trying to say this in a bad way, because they

795
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: deserve the respect, but I'm just saying, is it one

796
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: of those things where they're more willing to take some

797
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: of these guys who've come off of ines and things

798
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: like that, because quite frankly, they're not planning on giving

799
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: them a second contract, because that's kind of what the position.

800
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: Is for You're saying, longevity doesn't matter as much, durability

801
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: doesn't matter as much.

802
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: Especially since it's by committee a lot as well, which

803
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: I know sucks to say, but it seems like kind

804
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 3: of the reality of the position is that maybe why

805
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: they're more teams may be more open to.

806
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: Doing things like this, maybe teams in general. But the

807
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: one thing about across the hall, they need running back

808
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 2: help now, right, I mean tracking that they need running

809
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,479
Speaker 2: back help now. So if Jonathan Brooks is not ready

810
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: for training camp or not ready for the regular season,

811
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: and they know that, I don't see them spending a

812
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: first or a second round pick on the game.

813
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 5: They could.

814
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: But if he's but if he's ready and he's as

815
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: explosive on tape and he's back to one hundred percent

816
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: and he's ready to go and he's able to contribute

817
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: week one, then absolutely I think they would take that

818
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: pick and run with it because longevity is not as

819
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: big of a factor and durability in the in the

820
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: short term is good to go.

821
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess that's why I was trying to ask.

822
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I feel the same way. I love

823
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 5: Trey Britt Benson from Florida State too, so, but I

824
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 5: don't know. I don't know if they do. That's the

825
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 5: thing about it, Like.

826
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 6: Benson's my number one guy. I mean, I've I've the

827
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 6: two guys that I fight for. Jalen right out of

828
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 6: Tennessee I absolutely love to go, and then Ray Davis

829
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 6: from Kentucky. Those would be my other two fallback options

830
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 6: that that I like a lot, and then marsh On

831
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 6: Lloyd from USC seems like he's really made it.

832
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 5: I like Lloyd a lot too. And to me, I

833
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 5: just the reason I make the comment about Benson being

834
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 5: a guy a cowboy, because it's just there's too many

835
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 5: things lining up for Brooks. Yeah, for Jonathan Brooks, I

836
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 5: say Benson, Yeah, we were just talking about Brooks. Yeah, Brooks.

837
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 5: To me, there's just too many things lining up. I

838
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 5: mean the doctor the thirty visit, the dinners that you know,

839
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 5: they're they're they're going to bring him in on his

840
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 5: thirty visit there. Doctor Cooper's probably gonna be downstairs, probably

841
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 5: gonna take a look at the knee again. You know,

842
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 5: I'm sure there's been some He's got the indie rechecks

843
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 5: that they're going to do in April. He'll get that done.

844
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 5: It just seems like to me if that's what they're

845
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 5: going to do. But there are a lot of good

846
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 5: backs in this draft. There are there, I mean, and

847
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 5: stretches pretty good. And let me ask you this though

848
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 5: a one technique or running back.

849
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: In the second, in the second, oh whatever, whatever players

850
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: higher on your board, just just give it.

851
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 5: Didn't do you don't have to be the player. Just

852
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 5: give me the position. If it would you take a

853
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 5: running back in the second or a defensive tackle if

854
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 5: the if the grades were equal.

855
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 6: Equal a defensive tackle, because I think running back stretches more.

856
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 6: I don't think that the drop off is big for me.

857
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: I don't know.

858
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: Because Brian brought up like a McKinley Jackson. There are

859
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 3: a couple of DT's like even again, call some guys

860
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: that are a little down.

861
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 5: The Yeah, I don't think there's a many a running back.

862
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: No, And that's one of the.

863
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: I struggle with it.

864
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 5: It's it's a that's a tough question.

865
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 6: But I think initially I would rather take a Fisk

866
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,479
Speaker 6: in the second round and the circle back and grab

867
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 6: Ray Davis from Kentucky and I'd feel really good.

868
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: But also, Toby, how are we running the ball this year?

869
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: Like I'm I think it also depends too, is if

870
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 3: there are going to be improvements with how they run

871
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: the ball this year periods I'm like, I'm not trying

872
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: to take no offense. She Smitchy running back and he

873
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: gonna get tackled in the backfield every time.

874
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 5: If you can't blog, it doesn't matter. Well, you're in

875
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 5: this no way to know it.

876
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: I would assume in the first round, if in this

877
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: you're taking an offensive lineman, that you're taking either a

878
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: tackle or.

879
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 5: Your center in the first round. I'm trying to I'm

880
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 5: trying to see how committed you are taking a running

881
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 5: back in the second round.

882
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 6: I'm not super committed. I'm not that committed. I do

883
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 6: think they're going to I mean, I think.

884
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 5: There's more depth of ice ship running back, say rounds

885
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 5: three and four than what your tackle is looking at,

886
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 5: And I sider just screaming at you because I don't

887
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 5: have a one technique.

888
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that was what I was about to say.

889
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: Though, I think there's less depth for a real one

890
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: tech in this draft, So I mean there are more

891
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: options at running back later if you do decide to

892
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: do that as well.

893
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 4: But I mean, you resigned Rico. That's a thing.

894
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: So I wonder also to like, what are what are

895
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: they looking for to package with with Rico?

896
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 5: You know, when you're looking for your starting running back?

897
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you looking so? Okay?

898
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 4: So Rico is going to be you think hasn't.

899
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 6: Ever played a full season in the NFL, you know,

900
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 6: I mean I think you're looking for your starter, and

901
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 6: I like.

902
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 5: One technique you draft might be the starter. To think

903
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 5: that the guy that you're drafting, what choice is he

904
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 5: going to.

905
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 4: Have right now?

906
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you starter in Seattle, he got paid two dollars.

907
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 4: Two dollars.

908
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: I think I would take your preaching to the choir here.

909
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: If Jonathan Brooks is there, I'm going with an equal

910
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: I have an equal grade on Jonathan Brooks.

911
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 5: Fisk or Brooks and Fisk I'm taking.

912
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: I think I would take Fisk.

913
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 4: Fisk is higher on board, it should be.

914
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 5: What about t Sweat?

915
00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 6: What about the two Texas kids, Devandre Sweater Brooks, Well,

916
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 6: because there you're talking about a legit big boy to.

917
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: Brooks just because he's higher on my board.

918
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 5: Brooks probably higher than Sweat too, But that's close.

919
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: You know what I take that they're touching tag take

920
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: it back, give me Sweat taking Sweat, Yeah, I think

921
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: that's a better player.

922
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 6: See the one guy that I really want to fight for,

923
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 6: and he's not a true nose, but disruptive as hell.

924
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 6: And you just Brandon Dorles, the Oregon defensive Like that guy,

925
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 6: that guy's just freaking have it.

926
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: That's another twin in the middle, and he is he

927
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: has another back outside.

928
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 6: Yeah he is, because like three four he'd play a

929
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 6: three four defensive end. But gosh, I watched Brandon Dorles somewhere.

930
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 5: What the hell I know?

931
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 6: I know, but gosh, he's disruptive, like you watch him,

932
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 6: and he's living in the opponent's backfield.

933
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 5: He's and he's so long. I mean, he's a tough guy.

934
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 5: To put a late third on him. If he's an

935
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 5: edge rusher.

936
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: I think I would put a like maybe a second.

937
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 6: But yeah, he doesn't fit body type into what we're

938
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 6: talking about in either position.

939
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 5: He plays the one, but he can.

940
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: Play everywhere, and that y'all loves. I mean, fatanu.

941
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 3: He said, he said that her Brandon Dorlyss was the

942
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 3: best player he played play.

943
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 5: You could see it when you watched him washing too.

944
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 5: He gave her a fit.

945
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 4: He said that.

946
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 3: He said, he literally said that he's the hardest person

947
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: he played against.

948
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 2: You brought up Gabe Paul from Baylor.

949
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 5: What did you like about him?

950
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: I think if you're looking at late defensive tackle options,

951
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: that's another one that I think is a little bit

952
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: under the radar. I mean, here, I'll give it based

953
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: off of what I've got. Six foot six, two hundred

954
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: and ninety one pounds. Uh. He was a tall, lengthy

955
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: frame on the interior, used that link to effect the

956
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: passing lane game, leverage on blockers. I liked his hands.

957
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

958
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 2: He was a defensive tackle with Baylor, but he played

959
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: a little bit outside three technique five technique. Kind of

960
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 2: went back and forth.

961
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: Because yeah, I mean, with me, the one thing I'm

962
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: learning to look at with DTS that I really admire

963
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: the most is how patient they can be, and also

964
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: to the extension very good. And if there are length,

965
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: he has the length, and I think that plays a

966
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: big role in what he's able to do in some

967
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: of the hands. His hands are huge and he has

968
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: heavy hands. So the a lot of these guys, especially

969
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: these DTS and these middle like sometimes that patience takes

970
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: time to develop. Even talking to Hankins and some of

971
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: the guys that played the position, they say that that

972
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 3: typically takes time. When you see some of these guys

973
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: display patients early, I think that's a good sign of

974
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: their development.

975
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 4: And he's one of those guys that has some of

976
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: that in his game.

977
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 2: He's fun, a little bit everywhere, tone.

978
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: And super but his motor but.

979
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: Also the the motor super high with him. He's very

980
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 3: relentless in his pursuit and that was interesting to me

981
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: as well. And he's not a pretty player. I wrote

982
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: that down as well. It's like he's not pretty. It's

983
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: not always going to look perfect for him. But the

984
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: motor and the effort and the way he just keeps

985
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: playing and fighting with his hands to get separation is

986
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 3: typically what does it for him. He's not super explosive,

987
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: but he a mad crazy split like he doesn't just

988
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 3: he doesn't look super explosive on field, but on in

989
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 3: that at the combine he had a one point seventy

990
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 3: two split ten yard split, which shows that he can

991
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: get some burst off the line, maybe a little bit

992
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: more than what I thought he was.

993
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 5: That's pretty impressed watching me. It's Cooper bb.

994
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, he did a really good job against bby able

995
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 6: to get upfield.

996
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he kicked Texas text ass.

997
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 5: That was the one game.

998
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 3: And the size, I mean, he has decent size, six

999
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: six two ninety two. Maybe you put a little bit

1000
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 3: more weight on him, he's three hundred pounds. I mean,

1001
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 3: you might be working with something there in the later again,

1002
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: in the later rounds because there's not as much fancy

1003
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: running back dip down.

1004
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 5: All right. He sounded very much like John Gruden when

1005
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 5: he one time goes he's getting it drinking, proud king

1006
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 5: because he has it drinking. Probably gave me that whiny

1007
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 5: voice one time he's want to punch him. Did that

1008
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 5: player turn out okay? Or oh it was fine? John

1009
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 5: Johns all right. John was arguing with the scouts real

1010
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 5: quick if it could John was arguing with the scouts

1011
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 5: and about a wider and you know he John was

1012
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 5: just going on and on and on, and then he

1013
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 5: stopped and he looked at all the scouts him. He goes, yeah,

1014
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 5: none of you like him because he's getting grab him.

1015
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 5: And then you know we all would just start dying laughing.

1016
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 5: But that was John. John was right about a lot

1017
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 5: of players.

1018
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: Sure was all right, we're gonna take our second break

1019
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Speaker 2: when we come back. We've talked about defensive tackle, We've

1020
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Speaker 5: Big Rango guy yourself side the love Rango.

1073
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you think you're right?

1074
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 5: You're right?

1075
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was off the top rope. That was pretty good. Yeah,

1076
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: you nailed the player, well done. Got It's a badass lizard.

1077
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: Right there, he will, little Dusty Chamelion, ain't it is

1078
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 3: a chameleon, I think because it's a blizard everywhere it's

1079
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: a lizard.

1080
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 5: It's one of the coolest lizards I've ever seen. Give

1081
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 5: your scouting report on Rango.

1082
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,359
Speaker 4: Take notes. He always.

1083
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 6: Is very slithering, slippery player, you know, very slippery, twitchy,

1084
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 6: quick off the line.

1085
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 5: He could fit in any role hees. Yeah, talking about

1086
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 5: a piano player that Rango. I could play them anywhere.

1087
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 5: Real chameleon. All right, biggest, somebody's gonna tweet at you.

1088
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 5: Who that player you were talking about?

1089
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1090
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: Right, not Jonathan or whatever. The guy who was that

1091
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, Jonathan Rango Go.

1092
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 7: That was.

1093
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 5: The Georgia corner when you get an.

1094
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 6: Hey, we we called that one too. That guy could

1095
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 6: not cover a double move to save his life.

1096
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: He also had some medicals last year people didn't like.

1097
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: All Right, the biggest under the radar need for this

1098
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys team entering the draft, and by this point

1099
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: usually you've had some some free agent signings, you've made

1100
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: some sort of motion, you've done something to sure up

1101
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 2: your holes. What holes are still there that maybe aren't

1102
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 2: being talked about as much as the running back, the

1103
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: offensive line, the defensive tackle.

1104
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna let I.

1105
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 6: Used to know you've got like you ready, you you

1106
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 6: take this one.

1107
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 5: I know you're ready, and then I'll follow up.

1108
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: Listen, you're about to tell us that I am I.

1109
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 4: Think tight end is need.

1110
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 2: Boom boom pal.

1111
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

1112
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 3: I only say this because, uh, you didn't get much

1113
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: from Peyton hinder shot last year. Schoolmaker just had surgery

1114
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 3: and a lot of the things he did for you

1115
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 3: last year were blocking.

1116
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 4: John Stevens is maybe.

1117
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: The guy that you're looking at to do some things

1118
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 3: for you. But I think Jake Ferguson needs another rody

1119
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: that's gonna be consistent. And I really also feel like

1120
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: if you look at last year's tape, Baby, when you

1121
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: got in twelve personnel, nobody cared because they like were

1122
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: watching tape on this this rookie. We know, y'all not

1123
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 3: throwing him the ball, so they're not they don't care.

1124
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

1125
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 3: I understand you can run plays and this is the

1126
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 3: look we're gonna do. But if people know that this

1127
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: gentleman is not doing anything for you from a receiving standpoint,

1128
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: and I'm not saying to just give up on schooning,

1129
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm just saying maybe if you do see someone down,

1130
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: you know in the later rounds that you're okay taking him.

1131
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 3: So that's just me until laterroun need so like three, Yeah,

1132
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: I think I think this is something you can do

1133
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: a little bit later, depending on what you're doing. I mean,

1134
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 3: I looked at a tip Reemond last night Illinois sixty

1135
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: four to two seventy one.

1136
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 4: Very willing blocker. He can get caught up sometimes.

1137
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 3: And sustaining sustaining blocks. He has good straight line speed.

1138
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: He has some yack ability, but it's more because of

1139
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: the angles he takes than him just being elusive. He

1140
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 3: high points the ball very well though. He is a

1141
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: red zone threat and someone that can get after it.

1142
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: Dalen Holker, I mean, there's there's some gentlemen that are

1143
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: gonna fall down in this uh. I watched aj Barker

1144
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: last year, last year, last night, Barn Barner, rather, I

1145
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: can't read my own hands right from Michigan. From Michigan,

1146
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: I literally wrote down, I said, well, he's a Michigan

1147
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 3: tight end.

1148
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 4: Though, yeah, bell out there blocking, I mean ging the

1149
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 4: guy as well.

1150
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 3: But I don't think I think he'll be gone before

1151
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't think that it's that much of

1152
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: a need that you're gonna pick that early. And I

1153
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,240
Speaker 3: think he's gonna.

1154
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 5: He's played a Day two guy, sneak up.

1155
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 6: Like a Cayden Stover from Ohio State. If he slipped

1156
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 6: to the fourth round, I think that'd be a pretty

1157
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 6: good value.

1158
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed his tape.

1159
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: I don't think he's slipping to the fourth.

1160
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 5: I think he's a third I think he's probably a

1161
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 5: third round guy, but you never know. He's never known.

1162
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 5: He's well rounded, like both. I thought about it. I

1163
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 5: didn't do it.

1164
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: I coward away from it, but I thought about putting

1165
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 2: him in the second. I think he's a legitimate player.

1166
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 2: He's ready to play the block.

1167
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 4: I like, yeah, it's just the temperament, man.

1168
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: And I think when you got a badass tight end

1169
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 3: that's not afraid to go toe to toe with some

1170
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: of the best DT's d's.

1171
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 2: George is just one v one right here.

1172
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 5: He's not sched over that they have him as a

1173
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 5: lead blocker.

1174
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 3: He's an yeah and tone sett and tight end, like

1175
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 3: I think it's it's valuable, and so I don't know

1176
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 3: if he's I don't think he's gonna be there, and

1177
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 3: that's why I did not mention his name. But I

1178
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 3: do think tight end feels important for what you want

1179
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 3: to do on the ground, but also to what you want.

1180
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 4: To do through the air. If your aerial attack is

1181
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 4: going to be money.

1182
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 3: Hey, honey, bun, people got tape on fer They starting

1183
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: to see what's up. They already know, and so you

1184
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: can take advantage of when people were rolling coverage to

1185
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 3: him and doing some things with him.

1186
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 4: I'm and also to help preserve.

1187
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: His body because Ferg is like and it's not I'm

1188
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 3: not saying they he's a very tough player, but he's

1189
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 3: doing a lot of extra things and he's out there.

1190
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 3: I mean, they ran eleven personnel so much because it

1191
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 3: was one of the only sets they could successfully get

1192
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 3: passing yards out of consistently. It was their go to

1193
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 3: this year, and I just think adding another tight end

1194
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: can really open up your playbook a little bit more

1195
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 3: from a receiving standpoint, and you can get some consistent

1196
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: stuff from on the ground. And I mean, I don't

1197
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 3: know what Scoon's going to be like, but I'm just saying, like,

1198
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. The depth behind those two guys is

1199
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 3: very unsure right now.

1200
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, because you got Steven's coming off that injury.

1201
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 5: So I hear you. I do.

1202
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with corner and I've been pretty consistent

1203
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 6: with you. It's like, look they move up to you'll

1204
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 6: get Eric Scott Junior. But was that a guy that

1205
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 6: like DQ had a plan for and now he's out

1206
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 6: of the building. I don't know how Al Harris feels

1207
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 6: about him, but I mean he was the guy we liked.

1208
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 6: I mean, I thought he definitely had some ball skills,

1209
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 6: he's got some trades, he's long, he's he's tough. But

1210
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 6: Digg's coming off an injury, right, I mean, I think

1211
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 6: you feel good about him. Jordan Lewis is on a

1212
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 6: one year deal though Bland of Courts you like, but

1213
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 6: the depth behind those pieces there is a ton of

1214
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 6: question marks. Unless do you want to move Makuamu back

1215
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 6: over to corner. I think that's definitely a spot where

1216
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 6: you're looking at this roster and thinking, okay, they do

1217
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 6: they're pretty top heavy right now.

1218
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 5: You don't have a lot of depth if you were to.

1219
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 6: Have some injuries, So corner to me, I think you

1220
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 6: even have that discussion as early as the second round,

1221
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 6: whether it's TJ. Tampat Iowa State, depending on who's there.

1222
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 6: I mentioned Kyrie Jackson the last shot Oregon. Yeah, who's

1223
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 6: a big guy that I like. The Georgia kids are

1224
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 6: all good. Rakestradue of Missoo. If you were to slide

1225
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 6: Chris Abrams Drain as well out of out of Missouri,

1226
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 6: I think it's an interesting player. So there's a lot

1227
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 6: of corners. I mean we've talked about that. Probably wait

1228
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 6: till day three and even get a corner for depth

1229
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 6: purposes that you feel solid about.

1230
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 3: One question before Brian goes, do y'all think that Elijah

1231
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: Jones Boston College maybe is going to fall a little

1232
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 3: bit because I think he had a suspension last year

1233
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 3: for something, and it's.

1234
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 5: So to see what it was.

1235
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 4: Would you be.

1236
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 3: Interested in grabbing in m because you're talking corner, I

1237
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 3: think that maybe because of some of the off field stuff,

1238
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: that gentleman could be someone that could fall because of that.

1239
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: That's your value pick.

1240
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's that's my point. But I just

1241
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 3: real quick, sorry, go ahead, Brian, Yeah, that's what you got.

1242
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, to me, when I look at when

1243
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 5: I look at this roster for the Cowboys, initially thought

1244
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 5: I thought safety was going to be an issue. And

1245
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 5: we'll see what they do with Marquis Spell and put

1246
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 5: moving him back. He's going to go from a linebacker

1247
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 5: to to playing safety. And I know that Mike wants

1248
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 5: to play with interchangeable guys. He wants to be able

1249
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 5: to have really smart guys, football intelligent guys. Marquise Bell

1250
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 5: is kind of all that. So I think that's going

1251
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 5: to help who the backup edges on this team.

1252
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 4: That's I know you're gonna say ed facts, big facts.

1253
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 5: Who's I mean? Now we talk about guys that have

1254
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 5: got to step up and Junior FORJKO is a step

1255
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 5: up guy. Sam Williams a step up guy. But if

1256
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 5: you don't get it, now take Michael Parsons and don't

1257
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 5: make him an edge. Now what are you looking at?

1258
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: Oh?

1259
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're looking at Sam Williams and DeMarcus Lawrence as

1260
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: you're starting.

1261
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and then yeah. But that's the thing.

1262
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: With where he needs to be anyways.

1263
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 5: That's the thing with Golston. He's another one of these

1264
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 5: guys that we all like to sit there and back about. Yeah,

1265
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 5: we all sit there and talk about, like, well, what's

1266
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 5: Goldstan gonna do?

1267
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 7: Well?

1268
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 5: He needs to get better too, you know. So this

1269
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 5: edge to me sneaky, very sneaky. The edge that's they better.

1270
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 5: They better find a way to add a guide maybe too,

1271
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 5: to help them with some of their stuff.

1272
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something, I'm tired of watching it again.

1273
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: I understand. It's kind of like what I when I.

1274
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 4: Think about the NBA, you cover the NBA just.

1275
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: Kind of like what the three point shot is, and

1276
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 3: how like so many guys want to shoot. They don't

1277
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 3: want to like set the game, they don't want to

1278
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 3: set screens, they don't want to do anything, you know.

1279
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 3: I feel that way about d ns that don't like

1280
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: to stop the run. And I'm sick of it, and

1281
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: I'm really like, I really am exhausted with uh watching

1282
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 3: a lot of the guys, Like if you come across

1283
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 3: a guy that's willing to rush the pastor but can

1284
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 3: stay squared, be patient and be able to still stop

1285
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 3: the run and time it and stuff like that.

1286
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 4: I think that that's becoming.

1287
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: A lot more valuable because a lot of these guys

1288
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: are just trying to wreck shop to the quarterback and people.

1289
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 4: Are running past them. And as especially when you start

1290
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 4: talking about.

1291
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 3: The NFL, baby, if that team run our po you

1292
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 3: gonna get your feelings hurt.

1293
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 4: Like and so I'm just the that's something that is

1294
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 4: not concerning to me.

1295
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 3: But I am starting to notice, even from last year

1296
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 3: that a lot of these gentlemen ain't really trying to

1297
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 3: stop that run like that. They want to rush the

1298
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 3: passer and that's that's fine, but it ain't gonna get

1299
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: you no starting spot consistently.

1300
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 11: Though.

1301
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: I like that comparison, like that's really good versus an

1302
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: all around player.

1303
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 6: How you getting paid, right, you get the sack, go

1304
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 6: get it. So, I mean that's what they're valuing right now.

1305
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Speaker 5: But I hear you. I'm with it.

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Speaker 3: But it's just like, hey, dude, but if you set

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Speaker 3: this away screen, yep, it's gonna make everybody else better.

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Speaker 6: And it's just you'll get your Jared verse, that well

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Speaker 6: rounded type of player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like there's some there's some guys in here and

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Speaker 3: and I hopefully maybe we'll talk about it more Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Like there's some guys down this d N depth chart

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Speaker 3: that do it. But I'm just starting to realize when

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Speaker 3: I see it, I'm like, oh, this is nice.

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Speaker 4: He's stopping the run.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna run the mock drafted on Thursday.

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Speaker 9: Oh.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's just mock.

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Speaker 2: Draft Thursday morning, eleven am Central Time. Have fun, all

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Speaker 2: thirty two picks, smellonga shaw.

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Speaker 5: We're just gonna sit there.

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Speaker 4: And absolutely no, we will be.

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Speaker 2: We will be mock drafting on Thursday. Should be a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of fun. We'll go through one through thirty

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Speaker 2: trading back.

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Speaker 5: I usul don't worry about we'll get.

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Speaker 2: Off going on, but that'll be a whole lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to tune in on Thursday for Zach Walchuk,

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Speaker 2: Brian brought us a Aha, Morrison, Chris Beam, I'm Kyle

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Speaker 2: Yoman saying so long. We'll see you on Thursday with

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Speaker 2: more of the Draft show.

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