1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Michael Very Show is on the air. 3 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: Officer Durphy has a wife and three young kids that 4 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: he provides for. They're about five, seven and ten. It's 5 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: another officer that works with him that told me that 6 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: when I asked, he works an extra job at the church. 7 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Many people don't realize it. 8 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: Most police officers work an extra job, and it's good 9 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: that they do because it means we have a lot 10 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: more officers on the street than you realize, because the 11 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: departments can't keep up with the crime, and it just 12 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: means you're privatizing the expense of keeping people on duty. 13 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: They often I know a number of law enforcement officers, 14 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: not just HPD, sheriff's deputies, you name it, all levels 15 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: who will take a pay cut from another job to 16 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: go be a police officer because it's in their blood. 17 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,919 Speaker 2: They have sheep dog mentality. They want to help people, 18 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: and there really are good people who do this, but 19 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: they can't they can't match what they could make on 20 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: the outside, and they don't have the upside that. 21 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: They would in the private sector. 22 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: But they do it and the way they make it 23 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: makes sense, and then they can still buy things for 24 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: their kids that they'd like to and pay their house. 25 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: Note is they work extra jobs. 26 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: Well, the problem when it guy gets wounded like this 27 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: is they're not cleared for extra jobs for a while, 28 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: and that means income that you weren't gonna make otherwise. 29 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 2: So I have donated twenty five hundred. I would love 30 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: to hit ten thousand. That's our goal. I think we 31 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: can do that rather easily. I'll just say it one time. 32 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: If you do. 33 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: Donate to him, send me an email tell me how 34 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: much you donated. I've just posted a Facebook but I'm 35 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: going to make this real easy for you. Go to 36 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: assist Theeofficer dot com and if you can't remember how 37 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: to do this, email me and I'll send you the 38 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: details on how to do it. You go to assist 39 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: theeofficer dot com. Then you click on events up at 40 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: the top of the menu and then upcoming benefits and 41 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: you'll see he's the one that they have on there 42 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: and it says donate and if you can donate twenty 43 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: five dollars, it adds up. There's a lot of people 44 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: fifty dollars, one hundred dollars. If you can do ten thousand, 45 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 2: whatever you can do is greatly appreciated. And I've set 46 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: the gold at ten and we're twenty five percent of 47 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: the way there. And I know there's a lot of 48 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: you that are appreciative. Maybe because you're an officer and 49 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: you realize that could have been you and you're paying 50 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: it forward. Maybe you're the family member of an officer, 51 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: maybe you were married to an officer, or maybe you're 52 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: a person whose life was saved by an officer. This 53 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: twenty six year old woman with her one year old 54 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 2: and three year old who are at home when these 55 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: bad guys pushed the door in and zip tie her 56 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: with a gun in her face, demanding the money in 57 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: the house. Where's the safe? Who knows what happens if 58 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: the neighbor doesn't call Officer Durfy and he doesn't come 59 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: blasting through the door. 60 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: Who knows what happens to her? 61 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: To those kids they're having to watch in horror as 62 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: Raymond Perez and his little button or pistol whipping her 63 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: for cash. Who knows what happens to those three. It's 64 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: horrible to imagine. He stood in between evil and innocence 65 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: and fortunately didn't have to make the ultimate sacrifice. But 66 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: I don't know about you. I don't want to be shot. 67 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 2: I don't I don't think you just you know a 68 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: year later ago. 69 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It's rough. It's rough. 70 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: It's it's a reminder every single day of the dangers 71 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: of that. If you can't remember how to donate at 72 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: assistioficer dot com, because it took me a minute to 73 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: figure it out, email me and I just drafted up 74 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: a little description on how to do it, and I 75 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: would sure appreciate you doing that if you don't know 76 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: what Assist the Officer is. When I was on city council, 77 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: I was asked to serve on the board of. 78 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: Assist the Office. 79 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: And I said, well, why do we need another organization? 80 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: Too many organizations? Why do we need another organization? We 81 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: already have the one hundred Club. And the head of 82 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 2: the union at the time told me, Michael, for an 83 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: officer's family, it's better they get killed than wounded. 84 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: And I said, why is that? 85 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: And he said, if you're killed, the one hundred Club 86 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: steps in and they'll pay off your mortgage and they 87 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: do this and then you get life benefits and the 88 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: family will be better taken care of. 89 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: If an officer is killed in line of duty. 90 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: But God help you if you're maimed because you get 91 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: a little afflat you know, gap payment, you lose your 92 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: extra jobs you've got, in many cases chronic conditions you're 93 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: dealing with for. 94 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: The rest of your life. I said, sold I will 95 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: be glad to do it. 96 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: And it's a great organization. You don't realize how many 97 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: officers are wounded, and when their story is not in 98 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: the news and you know, you move on to the 99 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: next shooting, it is forgotten that that guy talking to 100 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 2: Mango Vallier the other day, Sergeant Valier who was shot 101 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: seven times, seven entry wounds, seven eggsit wounds, fourteen holes 102 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: in his body and he's still he's back to work, 103 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: but he said he's in significant pain constantly. The nerves 104 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: in his body are are out of whack, and they're 105 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: telling him that he is experiencing extreme trauma even when 106 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: he's not. But for anybody who's been through a condition 107 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: like that, that's not all necessarily gunshot wound related that 108 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: maybe something he lives with for the rest of his life. 109 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: Can't do any extra jobs for sure, has trouble picking. 110 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: His daughter up. 111 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, those are those are things you have 112 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: to you have to live with for the rest of 113 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: your life. So if you're able to help. 114 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: Please do. 115 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: And by the way, when we raise money for things, 116 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: I often get emails from people saying as if they 117 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 2: are feeling convicted or accused or look, for most of 118 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: my life I didn't have two nickels to rub together. 119 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: So if I gave it was a widow's mite. It 120 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: was what little bit I could do. Not worry if 121 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: you can't. There are plenty of people who can. Plenty 122 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: of people. 123 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: Our event October twelfth, twenty nine to twenty Roadhouse. 124 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: I said, if I get a sponsor for twenty five thousand, 125 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: cover the expenses before Monday, then I'll have the event. 126 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: And if I don't, I won't. That's okay. 127 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: I get a call from well, several people offered, but 128 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: I get a call from somebody I hadn't talked to 129 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: in I don't know a year, Larry Ness. He went 130 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: on one of our Pomber trips. He's got a construction 131 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: company in Dayton. I said, Larry, can I put your 132 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: your websites down? Can I put your website up? And 133 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: thank you for it? He said, Michael, we build banks. 134 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: The banks love us. 135 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: We're good at what we do. It's kind of our niche. 136 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm at a perfect size. 137 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: I can oversee every project down to the last possible detail, 138 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: make sure every line is plumbed, every window is perfect. 139 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to If I grew, I just have 140 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: more employees and more worries and more thing. I appreciate it. 141 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: I support what you're doing. I look forward to being there. 142 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: If I can have a table, you can have a table, Larry, 143 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: you can have whatever you want. 144 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: That's all we need. 145 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 2: Just salt of the earth people not trying to become 146 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: fabulously wealthy. Salt of the earth people blessed by their success, 147 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: wanting to give back. 148 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: That's and that's why I love what we do. 149 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen, which of the theme up paper ballots, But 150 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: that actually might be one of the smartest. 151 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: Systems Michael Very Show, because. 152 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: Russia cannot hack a piece of paper. You have a. 153 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: Rally on October twelfth in the evening. It is a Saturday, 154 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 2: and if you are interested in applying for tickets, they're free, 155 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: but it is a ticketed event. Email me through the 156 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: website Michael Berryshow dot com, or you can email me 157 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: directly Michael at Michael Berryshow dot com. If I know 158 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: you somehow, you're a show sponsor, a show guest, or 159 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: anything else, put that in the first line. Please keep 160 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: it brief, but you must include four numbers in your 161 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: email so that it goes to the right filter, and 162 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: that is two nine two zero twenty nine to twenty 163 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: twenty nine to twenty. It'll be on the northwest side 164 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: of town. I'm not announcing bands because people think I'm 165 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: putting on a concert and everybody wants their band to play, 166 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: and it becomes a huge distraction, and I'm just not 167 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: doing that. Think of it as a rally. It's an 168 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: election time rally. It's a time to gather with friends. 169 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: Don't major in the miners and pester me with fifty 170 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: eight questions about what you should wear or anything else. 171 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: Imagine we're going to have between one thousand and fifteen 172 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: hundred people and having to answer that many questions of 173 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: the little bitty thing that you want to know. Just 174 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: please don't do it. If you're interested in tickets, however, 175 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: email me through the website or directly Michael at Michael 176 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: Berryshow dot com. Just make sure you put in the 177 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: subject line and in the body, preferably of the email 178 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 2: as well, so the filter catches it twenty nine to 179 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: twenty those four numbers because it's going to be at 180 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: twenty nine to twenty roadhouse, and yes, you must have 181 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: a ticket. This should be made into a movie. An 182 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: American Airlines mechanic has been sentenced to nine years in 183 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: prison for smuggling twenty five pounds of cocaine hidden under 184 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: the cockpit of a JFK bound flight from Jamaica. Customs 185 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: officials found ten cocaine bricks in an electronics compartment or 186 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: did they find eleven? Ramon, I always wonder about that. Well, sorry, 187 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: pull you over here to the side. It appears that 188 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 2: you were trying to smuggle in ten bricks a cocaine. Actually, officer, 189 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: it was eleven. Nope, it was only ten. We were 190 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: only turning over ten, was that? Yeah, yeah, exactly, and 191 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: replace them with fake bricks sprayed with a substance that 192 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: glows under a special black light. Paul Beloisi, fifty six, 193 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: was sentenced by US District Judge Dora Irosari in Brooklyn 194 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: after being convicted in May of twenty three of conspiring 195 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: to possess cocaine conspiring to import cocaine and importing cocaine. 196 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: Case arose from a routine search of American flight thirteen 197 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: forty nine, where Belosi had been an American mechanic for 198 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: more than two decades, from Montego Bay, Jamaica. Prosecutors said 199 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: custom officers found ten cocaine bricks weighing twenty five pounds 200 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: in an electronics compartment beneath the cockpit and replaced them 201 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: with fake bricks sprayed with a substance that glows under a. 202 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: Special black light. 203 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: Prosecutor said law enforcement confronted him and showed that he 204 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: had handled the fake bricks because his gloves glued under 205 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: the black light. They also said Bloisi was carrying an 206 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: empty tool bag and wore a jacket large enough to 207 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: hold said cocaine. The cocaine had a street value of 208 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: more than two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Have you 209 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: ever seen cocaine? 210 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: Room? 211 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 2: Have you known anybody to do it? You have a 212 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: by io who Emily does not do cocaine. You're stupid, 213 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 2: you know what. That's not very nice. If Emily was anything, 214 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: it would be a stoner. She's totally chilled. Emily does 215 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: not do cocaine. That can you imagine Emily on cocaine. 216 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: She's already too high strung as it is. I think 217 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: nine years is too long. Don't get upset. Just hear 218 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: me out here. We tend to, uh, we tend to 219 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 2: get really excited about prosecuting people who smuggle drugs because 220 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: people have a relative who odeed. 221 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: On drug, and. 222 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: Out of the grief of the relative who odeed on 223 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: the drug, we go, let's go catch somebody else's bringing 224 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:49,479 Speaker 2: in drugs. How About we address not doing. 225 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: Drugs with people. 226 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: How About how about we get real serious about that. 227 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 2: How About we address what they're trying to do and 228 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: what they're trying to accomplish and better safer ways to 229 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: do that. How about we start with that. And how 230 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: about we really focus on the kind of people who 231 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: bust into somebody's house with a gun and zip tie 232 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: a woman pistol. 233 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: Whipper while her one year old and three year. 234 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: Old watch on, and you say, oh, let's get them all. 235 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: Can't get them all. That's the problem. You're pushing one 236 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: violent criminal, rapist, pedophile out of prison every day to 237 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: make room for a dude that's handling coke. Look I 238 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: wish none of them would do it. I mean, it's 239 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: all stupid, and you wish that none of them would 240 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: do it. But I'll tell you this, your government spent 241 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: a lot more time chasing down anyone over ivermactin than 242 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: they ever have over fentanyl. And fentanyl's the scariest drugging 243 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: in the history of mankind. 244 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: It really is. It's the only drug I know of. 245 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: Where you can die the first time you try it, 246 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: and you're literally dipping a toe into the water. 247 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: There are credible stories. 248 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: I've heard it from officers, I've heard it from EMTs, 249 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: I've heard it from doctors. 250 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: I've heard it from mothers. 251 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: There are credible stories of fifteen sixteen year old kids 252 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: at high school and one of their buddies gives them 253 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: a candy. 254 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: And I mean I'm not talking about a big candy. 255 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about little smarty. We went to. 256 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: Crockett's parent teacher open house night a couple of weeks ago, 257 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: and the teacher came around and gave everybody a smarty. 258 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: You know what smarties are? Do you really looks like? Yeah, 259 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: little little Asprince. 260 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: It's in a clear kind of little cellophane read on 261 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: the end and rolled up and we went to leave, 262 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: and my wife said, you didn't get your candy because 263 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: they didn't call them smart as in India. 264 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: And I said, no, I don't eat candy. And she said, well, 265 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: I'll take them, and she did, and she brought them home. 266 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: And we have a little community desk, which is where 267 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: the mail goes, and we put our keys, and everything 268 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: goes on the community desk. The next morning I get up, 269 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: the Smarties are on the community desk. That night I'll 270 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: come home the Smarties are on the community desk. So finally, 271 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: after about three days, I said, what is going on 272 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: with these Smarties? 273 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Because I knew she still 274 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: didn't know the name of them, these candies. Why are 275 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: they here? Well, somebody might want them. 276 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: We're toting these damn candies around and they've got pride 277 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: of place on the community desk where real estate is precious. 278 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: Well, somebody wants them. 279 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: Throw them away, Well, somebody wants them. I hadn't bought 280 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: Smarties in forty years, maybe fifty years, but I bet 281 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: they're a nickel apiece. 282 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Still they can't cost very much. Good grief, I would like. 283 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: To hear from somebody who was a serious, serious cocaine 284 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: user as to what it did for you and why 285 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: you did it. I have had friends of mine who 286 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: were surprisingly successful people, because you know, I always associated 287 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: people that do drugs as people you go to prison 288 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: and you die. I didn't know that there were high 289 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: functioning people. There are some high function not as high 290 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: functioning as they could be if they didn't do the drugs, 291 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: but there are. They're high functioning, a lot of high 292 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: functioning drunks, but they're high functioning potheads. They're high functioning 293 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: coke heads. Anyway, I would like to hear your story. 294 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: Seven one three nine nine nine one thousand. We're not 295 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: glamorizing cocaine and it's it's it's a very very Americans 296 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: or hardcore drug don't touch it. 297 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: But I would like to hear your story. Seven one 298 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 1: three nine nine nine one thousands. 299 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 3: I was raised as a middle class kid. 300 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: A lot of folks who. 301 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: Feel inspiration to write a song about what's going on 302 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,239 Speaker 2: in our country, and they will send them along, and 303 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: you can never acknowledge that you got them, because then 304 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: they will know when you're going to play them. 305 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: And then when you do play it. 306 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: How can I get a record of it, and so 307 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: you learn over the years you just don't touch it. 308 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: And a lot of them, frankly, are just not very good. 309 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 2: They're painful to the ear, but they come from a 310 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: good place. You know, when your kid, You know, when 311 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 2: my brother would be practicing his trumpet before he got really, 312 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: really good. He would be practicing his trumpet in middle school, 313 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: maybe by his freshman year, and it was wow, and 314 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: it wasn't good, and it never is for anybody, you know. 315 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: I can't play the glinstruments hard. Takes a lot of time. 316 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: So anyway, I don't know what overtook me, but a 317 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: fellow named Norman Kerner in Ellicott City, Maryland sent me 318 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 2: an email entitle he's Lincoln. The Democrats are not aware 319 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: that Trump's the closest thing to Lincoln of any of 320 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: our presidents, especially now fighting back after the two assassination attempts. 321 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 2: I wrote this song to make the point that he's 322 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: the very essence of Abe Lincoln. I hope you like it. 323 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: Feel free to use it in any way you want. 324 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 2: Keep me posted well. 325 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: That I won't do. 326 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: But it's actually pretty good and we'll come back with 327 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 2: it in the next segment as a bump, and I'll 328 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: post it to Facebook and we'll put it. Jim will 329 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: put it on the Blast today. So if you're a 330 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: subscriber to our Daily Blast, if you like this song, 331 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: then you'll be able to click it's a SoundCloud link 332 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: to it. 333 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: If you're not a. 334 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 2: Subscriber to our Daily Blast, go to Michael Berryshow dot com, 335 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: click on subscribe to the Daily Email. We don't sell 336 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 2: your email, we don't share your email, none of it, 337 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: never have, never will. And we'll send you one email 338 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: a day, which is a link to any bonus podcasts, 339 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: probably a meme, and anything else about the show, which 340 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: you're free to delete if you don't have time to 341 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: read it that day. All right, let's talk to Let's 342 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: see regarding degrees not being necessary. Okay, George, you're on 343 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 2: the Michael Berry Show. Did you call about cocaine? 344 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: Oh? 345 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: Okay, David, I'm trying to find a cocid and they've 346 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: got people calling in about politics. David, Well, thank you 347 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: found one. 348 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: Were you previously or are you now a cokid? 349 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: I am recovery. I am in recovery. I was a 350 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: you know, I smoke crack. They a lot of go 351 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 3: since I was like twenty years old and till I 352 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 3: was about forty. I'm now sixty. I just wanted to 353 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 3: call and answer any questions you might have, because addiction 354 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: is something a lot of people can't get that hit 355 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: around because well they're not addicted. Ah, it's a very 356 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: you know, And I'd just like to answer any question 357 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 3: you may have. 358 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: Well, let me start by saying, I've never been a 359 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: cocaine addict and never will be because I'm scared to 360 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: death of it. And the reason I'm scared to death 361 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: of it is I've had people friends of mine who 362 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: have used cocaine, some of whom became terribly addicted. And 363 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: they say, Michael, you have to steer clear of that 364 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: because you already struggle to go to sleep. 365 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: You don't want the data end. 366 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 2: You love to be high energy, and it would give 367 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: you all of those things until it couldn't and you 368 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: would like it too much. 369 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: And I got it. You had to me, don't touch 370 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: this stuff. 371 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: Let's talk about how you got to the point at 372 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: twenty that you were experimenting with I mean, you rattle 373 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 2: off some pretty rough stuff. How did you get to 374 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: that point in your life? 375 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: Well, I started off with an alcoholic and I've got 376 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: an addicted nature. I don't know if that makes any 377 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: sense to a lot of people, But what happened is 378 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: I was drinking and I get drunk, and somebody would 379 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 3: approach me, and where you were told or had the 380 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: common sense or whatever it is to say no, I didn't, 381 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 3: And I did that further. And once you do it 382 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: the first time, it's for me. It just set off. 383 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 3: I don't know what. It was, such a great feeling, 384 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: an erotic feeling that I was on top of the world. 385 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 3: I could do anything and could and was smarter. But 386 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: the think of it is I kept chasing that one 387 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: feeling from that first day. I never got it again 388 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: for years and years and years. And with that said, 389 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 3: that's where addiction comes in. You chase that that that 390 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: that that I can't really put my word on it, 391 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: that feeling it, and it'll take everything from you chasing. 392 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 3: Does that make any sense of all to you? 393 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: It makes all the sense. 394 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: Andy. Once you get that that that feeling, you want 395 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 3: to keep going and going and going to have that feeling, 396 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: and you end up losing everything. And now you was 397 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 3: mentioned there are a lot of high functioning people that 398 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 3: do cocaine, well, the high functioning people do alcohol, you know, alcoholics, 399 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 3: but it's not sustainable for any length of time. I mean, 400 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 3: you know, you might do it for a few years, 401 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: but eventually it will catch up to you. And that's but. 402 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: You know, David, and you'll tell you something. 403 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 2: You talk about addictive personalities, and I think we're getting 404 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: into the deeper issue of the way our brains work 405 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: and the desire for There are a lot of different 406 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: words that are used in science, both the psychology side 407 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: and the and the physiology side, the biology side that 408 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: get into serotonin. You know, the pleasure principle, the idea 409 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: of a positive rush, a bump, you know that phenomenon. 410 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: I see that in things even outside of drugs. Obviously 411 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: drugs have the chemical side of that, but we also 412 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 2: have natural chemicals we'll release. 413 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: I have watched people. 414 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: Men and women who love the idea of the teenage romance, 415 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: and a lot of this is fostered in pop culture 416 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: and they call it the kids call it love bombing now, 417 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: and it's this idea of you know, this couple and 418 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 2: they've just started dating and they can't get enough of 419 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: each other and they're all over each other all the time. 420 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: That's be around each other all the time, and these constant, 421 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: dramatic shows of affection and commitment and all of this, 422 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: and then you see that person five years later and 423 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 2: they're miserable and the relationship. 424 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: Is horrible and she's horrible, and she says he's horrible. 425 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: And part of that is they need that drug of 426 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 2: the newness. And and that's not sustainable either, happy healthy couples. 427 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: That that do it for decades. You need to learn 428 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: a sense of moderation. And Michael Berry, I don't know 429 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: a better work for it. 430 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: Another say yeah, we're on the break. 431 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: They won't unlock him up. 432 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 4: Throw away keep slam another door to keep a man out. 433 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: Those fools don't get what he's all about, or. 434 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 4: They hate the more he's reading new There's only one god. 435 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 3: He bows down to after every hopes. In every case. 436 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 4: They try, they go lovel That's when he goes high. 437 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 4: He's a Lincoln, Hey left that sink in. He find 438 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 4: so hard for you and need this songs go slagg lead. 439 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 4: He's working for your freed on repetable even about friend. 440 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 4: He's a Lincoln hi Fi fight behind out while he 441 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 4: was bleeding Si Fi fight piece all we've got. 442 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: Left to believe in. 443 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: But he's back in twice said strong, his fear and 444 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 4: his fears then a junk yard dog. Let's say together, Hey, Hey, Usa, Usa, Usa, Usa. 445 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 3: Tell he's a Lincoln. 446 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: Hey left that sink in. He find so hard for 447 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 4: you and need this songs go slack lead. He's working 448 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 4: for your friend on Repetable about Friend, He's a Lincoln. 449 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 4: He's a Lincoln, He's a lakem he's a leader, He's truck. 450 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: If you want the link to that fellow's song from Maryland, 451 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: it will be in the Daily Blast today. 452 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: Sign up for it. 453 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: Uh, I'm not sure his first name doesn't give a 454 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: first name. I lived through about a twenty year cocaine habit. 455 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: I loved the energy that it gave me, but once 456 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 2: it became a chemical dependency, it wasn't fun anymore. Then 457 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: my body craved it. It almost ruined my life, It 458 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: ruined my finances. It got so bad my wife threatened 459 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: my dealer, and he threatened to have her killed, which 460 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 2: was very stupid of her, but she loved me enough 461 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: to put herself at risk. Nothing was going to stop 462 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: me from killing myself with it until God, my wife 463 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: and the power of prayer saved me from myself. Thank God, 464 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: I'm still here. Boy, you want to have a whole 465 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: new outlook on your life, talk to an addict that 466 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: hit rock. 467 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: Bottom, and I mean rock bottom. 468 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: We all think that we've had it rough because we 469 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: ate blooney sandwiches. That's not rock bottom. You spend some 470 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: time with the guys at Camp Hope and you hear 471 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 2: stories of rock Bottom, and it. 472 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Is brutal, brutal to hear them. I have to. 473 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: I become for clemped because if I speak, I'll get 474 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: choked up because I've seen addiction like this. 475 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: We had this, not my father or my mother. We 476 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: had some. 477 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: We had a fair number of people in our family 478 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: in the generations before me who whose lives were destroyed 479 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: by drugs and alcohol. 480 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: And you see that. 481 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: You're raised around it, and I was so scared of it. 482 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 2: I still am, and and it's kind of a lifelong 483 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: fascination with it because one of the things I notice is, 484 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: first of all, nobody sets out to become addicted to anything. 485 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: Everybody's going to You're not going to become a gambling addict. 486 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: And mortgage my home for one more roll of the wheel. 487 00:29:55,120 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: Come on, okay, anythink I am nobody? He intends to 488 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: lose their rational powers. And most people don't realize that 489 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: they're they're they're sliding down that slippery slope when they're 490 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: doing it, because the mind has a coping mechanism. And 491 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: if you've if you've had a child who was an addict, 492 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: or a parent who was an addict, or a sibling 493 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: or a spouse for many of you, who was an addict, 494 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: or an employee, and you realize how convincing they can be. 495 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: They will employ every tool of persuasion to get you 496 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: to give them one hundred dollars. They're done with the drugs, 497 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: they're full of the drug. They're never going to do 498 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 2: the drugs again. They just got to pay the dealer 499 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: back to keep from getting killed. And there they've turned 500 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: it around and find out two hours later that they 501 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: went and bought another hit. And it's it's in many ways, 502 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: it's harder on the people around them. And I've watched 503 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: this play out so many times. It's rough, and I 504 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: think that as a result, and this is very natural, 505 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: it's so frustrating that we start looking for someone to blame, 506 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: and we start looking for someone to punish, especially when 507 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: the addict. 508 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: The user is gone. 509 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: So this is where we say, you know, Jamaican employee 510 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: of American Airlines, we caught you with some cocaine you 511 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 2: were smuggling in. You know, you should get the death penalty, 512 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: which is the dumbest thing. I wish people would stop 513 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: sending me emails about people getting the death penalty for 514 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: things unrelated to murder. But that's how that's their way 515 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: of saying I'm really really against it. You can be 516 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: really really against things without threatening the death penalty. You 517 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: know the little league baseball coach who only plays his 518 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 2: kid at picture and starts, you know, makes his kid 519 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: the leadoff batter and does not care about any of 520 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: the other kids. David Crook, that guy. Okay, that's an 521 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: awful human being. That's not the death penalty, right, there 522 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: are things. 523 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: Short of that. 524 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: And by the way, there's also a way of saying 525 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: I really like X, Y or Z other than that 526 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: person for president. But anyway, I got a little distracted 527 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: there on the addiction thing. I've just watched so many 528 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: people I know everybody has. 529 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: I've watched so many. 530 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: People burn themselves up on bourbon and spead sold Don 531 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: Williams song, What do you do with good old boys 532 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: like me? But I have, and I think we all have. 533 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: I also think we shouldn't blame the drug. I think 534 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: we should make better efforts to prepare people, because every 535 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 2: addict will tell you, as as David did earlier, the early. 536 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: Moments of what ends up in an addiction, but never intentionally. 537 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: The early moments are golden. 538 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: That's why the dealers will give you that first round 539 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 2: for free, the early days or man, this is going 540 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: to be great until the great is so great that 541 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: you want the great all the time, and that's not 542 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: sustainable because your body begins to to require more to 543 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: do that same thing, and the more becomes, you know, 544 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: the next high, the next high, the next high, until 545 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: eventually you can't afford it, or you can't get it, 546 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: or you can't handle it. 547 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: It's a serious issue. 548 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: It's an Alcohol is the the deadliest drug in Americans. 549 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: It's the one we don't we talk very very little 550 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: about because people. 551 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: Don't want to talk about that because more people are 552 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: addicted to it, maybe than or not, and that that 553 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: would be painful. 554 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: So it's a tough that's a that's a tough conversation. 555 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: You're out there