1 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating Wild Broke. 2 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen, and today we have very special guests, 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: aviation entrepreneur, first ever in the building. Ever in the 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: history of Eating While Broke? Have you had an entrepreneur 5 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: of aviation? The CEO and founder of Arrows Corporation is 6 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: in the building. Yes, yes, just a little backstory. I 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: just happened to be at Igor's house, which was absolutely beautiful. 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: You were kind enough to let me tour and invade 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: your space a little bit. But just hearing that you 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: design airships is you don't come across that every day. So, guys, 11 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: just so you know, all I was there was like, hey, 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: what do you think about being on a show where 13 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: we talk about your humble beginnings? And Igor was like, 14 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm a little crazy, and I was like, crazy changes 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: the world? World? Yeah, or more Chris, Yeah, I believe 16 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: it changes the world. So I said, what would you 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: have me eating if you were to come on Eating 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: While Broke? And what are you gonna have me eat today? 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: They were eating waste, no restaurants, roads. 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so what was that? 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: It's beautiful, beautiful, unbelievable and beautiful. 22 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: Top Rammer top ramen, and then what else does you 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: have us eating? 24 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: Oh no, this is not the food. It's the life saving. 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: It's life saving. 26 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you ready to live this life because you're hungry. 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 2: It's called you safe, your wife. 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it our boiled eggs? You gotta cook 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: them first. Yeah, so we're gonna have harboiled eggs, guys 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: and some ramen. Go ahead. Igor says he never really cooks. 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: We now have it on camera that you will be cooking. 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I always cook. 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Oh, you always cook. 34 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: Of course. Look in reality, right when you're hungry, you're hungry, 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: and you're always looking for efficiency in this life. Nothing 36 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: can be more efficient than roman and eggs because you 37 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 2: can cook and the same time think about something else, 38 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: like your next trip to restaurant. 39 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: Yes, et restaurant. 40 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: Okay, the secret is my secret, but don't tell to anyone. 41 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: You need gently. 42 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: You gotta boil the water personal. 43 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, to boil the water they need fish. 44 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Just turn both those knobs the other way. Yep, the 45 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: other way. Yeah, yet there, and then do the other 46 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: one because you're boiling. You're boiling both, right. 47 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: Not necessary today to do some experimentation cooking experiment. Okay. 48 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: For some strange reason, I'm nervous about your cooking because 49 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 1: when we first met, you were like, I don't. 50 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: Cook really cooked sixty one and still wie. 51 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, come on, come on ahead. 52 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: Cook Yeah, yeah, it's supposed to be start start boiling. 53 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: And then what about the hardboiled egs? Do you put. 54 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: The agreed to do some experiments? 55 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Oh, you're okay, then some Okay, we're gonna see all right, 56 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: do you want to turn off that other part or 57 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: do you want to keep it running? You want to 58 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: turn it off? Yeah, that's that's done. Yep, Okay, we're 59 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: gonna watch it. I think I know what is gonna do. 60 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: By the way, did I say your name? Pastornik? Is 61 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: the I didn't even say your name? Did I? 62 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: Oh? 63 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: I did? Okay, okay, So igor take me back to 64 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: what was going on in the times where you were 65 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: eating this on a more regular basis. 66 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: So he did some more regular really, yes, of course. 67 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: Okay. Take me back to humble times. 68 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: Humble times and still humble, yes, humble times. 69 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: So it's very when times were a little financially strained. 70 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: When you're running small business, yeah, small business, you're always 71 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: financially strength with the issues or problem or happiness. You 72 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: achieve one goal, you already got another goal. Yeah, and 73 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: next goal always bigger than previous one, and next goal 74 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: taking more money. You never become this feeling of financial independency. Yeah, 75 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: because this every project, you just become addictives to the challenge. Yeah. 76 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: Now do you think that's more of a life of 77 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur or do you think people that have nine 78 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: to five's go through that battle. 79 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 2: Nine you never know what it's right nine to fine 80 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: or they were trying to change the world, or you 81 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: will be know to a second before we die. But unfortunately 82 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: in this moment we cannot talk anymore. You keep the 83 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: secret with us. I think in reality, everyone going through this, Yeah, 84 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: because everyone especially following the American dream or a bigger Yeah, 85 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: it's the probably honor to be American. It's you're trying 86 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: to achieve something more and more for your family, for 87 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: your dream, for yourself, for your friends, and this kind 88 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: of NonStop process because if you stop, we become different. 89 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: You're not longer mankind to become human being. Yeah, and 90 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: everyone's struggling with this. Is you show to me one 91 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: billionaire who will be saying she's okay, it's not true. 92 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: Have you read the book The Psychology of Money? 93 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 2: No, I never read books. 94 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: You don't. You don't read you're an engineer, and they're 95 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: not really no. 96 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: Very simple and not really books because books as soon 97 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: as the people's opinion, and I got to do everything 98 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: my own opinion. 99 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: Okay, oh, I never thought of it like that. But then, 100 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: but okay, you're an engineer, right. Engineers build off of 101 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: what other people have, kind of trial and error. 102 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: Right, it's probably it's different engineers, right, Okay, different engineers 103 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: probably when what we're doing, I'll consider everyone bodyline between 104 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: science and engineering. 105 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: Okay. 106 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: From one sign, it's more kind of applies science and 107 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: in some way because signs a lot to you to 108 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: operating the real data and saying what I can do 109 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: today what yesterday was impossible. Yes, because I become not 110 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: more smarter, I become more dealing this data. I realize 111 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: something new on this data. Basically, it's the science. 112 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: Yes, when you've. 113 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: Got the data, you observe the data, your knowledge, and 114 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: you find the pattern in this data. 115 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 1: Yes. 116 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: The engineering portion, it's when you're thinking, okay, now I 117 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: can do something, not just better as device, Right, is 118 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: I can do in principle new device? What can be 119 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: changed something based on this data? You're training your brain 120 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: in some way, right, it's what is uniqueness? Be on 121 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: the borderline, because on the same side you're doing experimental 122 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: in your head. What is engineering? Wine, because much more progressive, 123 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: but again it's more apply science from engineering. 124 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: You just come closer and speak into this mic just 125 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, yes, yes, okay, I am closer, a 126 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: little bit closer. 127 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: This morn. 128 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. I want you to like less than this much 129 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: away all right? Yeah, sorry, you fascinating me. 130 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: About what for all of it? All of it? Okay. 131 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: I like the way you explain engineering versus the science 132 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: and the engineering and how it all comes together. 133 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, the old ambitions, right, our ambitions when the young, 134 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: the more ambitions when we are sixteen years old. We 135 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: believe it. Our parents, our relatives, especially our clothes relatives 136 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: who much older than they are. 137 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,359 Speaker 1: They wrong, they're wrong. 138 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: They're wrong. Of course we got to move you know 139 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: the world much better. Yeah, yes, especially correct to my 140 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: life experience. Girls starting about twelve years Asian boys about 141 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: a little bit better. They about fifteen. Yeah, but they 142 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: all know the parents wrong in the view of the world, 143 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: and they always yeah, okay, now we're moving next step right, 144 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: reach about eighteen geen and this moment we believe and 145 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: we can change the world because world built wrong and 146 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 2: they need to only are capable to make world better place. 147 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,359 Speaker 2: And as the growing up and the gaining life experience, 148 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: the realizing it's not about in this world, it's not 149 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: so much about you as revolutionary changing. It's about to 150 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: leave the world better place than you leave. Then you 151 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: come and this point, your ambitionance is built around this. 152 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: You don't have any more ambitions on the base your 153 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: parents stupid. You don't have any more ambitions. Everything in 154 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: the world is wrong and everything needs to be changed. 155 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 2: You're realizing the beauty of the world. You're realizing the 156 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: beauty of the light. And you're just trying to use 157 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: your talent to make better place for your family, for 158 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: your unity, for your city, for engineers to come in 159 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: with something that make life of the people. But it's 160 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: always something motivating us. This is what is saying is 161 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: difference between mankind and human being. And it's not about 162 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: nine to six jobs or for twenty four hours and 163 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: be world. Yeah, yeah, it's everyone motivating. Same. Yeah, just 164 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 2: some people stupid like me, they decide the hard ways, 165 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: and people more smart we decide to go more normally. 166 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: Yes, Hold on one second. 167 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see this device is not working. 168 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: You turned off the stove. Hold on, hold on? 169 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: Okay, there, I was planning to ask for school driver. 170 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: And change change and to fix it, do your engineer hack. 171 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: So take me back. You're born in the Ukraine, in 172 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: Soviet Union, in Soviet Union. Okay, Now where did the 173 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: bug for aerosh or aviation come into play? 174 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 2: It's probably need to step away. What the Soviet Union 175 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: was back there in sixties sixty seventies, right, it's about 176 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: three hundred years ago. There was this was very special 177 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: country had to say special. But let's assume this words 178 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: special and in some way unique. 179 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Unique, Yeah, unique and noting. 180 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: They go to why notice words of uniqueness and the 181 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: idea of the do something was very limited, right, because 182 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: it's a communist system. It's basically you as individual, you're 183 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: not thinking about money. Money not exist. Yeah, and it's 184 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 2: because it's only what this exists. As kids watching the 185 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: movie Soviet movie, is you are changing something for a 186 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: better the country? Yes, because it's known as the option, 187 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: the attorney it's not good. The doctors it's okay, but 188 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: not really good. And then in this for people like 189 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: me who has got born with some kind of logical 190 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: structure thinking and Sinata war was born mentally sick. Yeah, 191 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: it was not as a way outside of engineering, because 192 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: engineering it was what did you feel? It was not? 193 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: There was no options? Why aviation? I don't know. It 194 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 2: was probably five years old, and I just said it 195 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: will be aviation because it was fun. 196 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: Because it was fun. Did you just have a fascination 197 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: with airplanes? I think war balloons or helium. 198 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: No, it started to use airplanes of course, okay, because 199 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: you don't see any balloons. Yeah there, but probably because 200 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: this way. Yeah, I already mentioned mentally sick. Yeah, yeah, 201 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: what is I was decided to so you be pilot, 202 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 2: and I decided to be aviation. 203 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: Engineer okay, okay, versus a pilot, versus a pilot. So 204 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: how do your parents take the news that you want 205 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: to get into building airplanes? 206 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: Probably some way as they take the news when my 207 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: five years old, Some tell me you want to be 208 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: president of the United States. 209 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay. So they were very positive about it. 210 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, five years old. 211 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, yeah, but then when you start to pursue it, 212 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: how did they take it? 213 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 2: From beginning it was okay. In some point it was 214 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: a little bit not okay because it was there was 215 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: no companies were going to work right, This was more 216 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: hobby line. No one was building airship, insuit union, no 217 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: one design union. And of course there was worried. I'lbeit 218 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: to some kind of dreamers of course, or probably saying 219 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: there's a lot of fantasy in my head because they 220 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: was worried. But eventually not let them any choices. 221 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just had to accept it. Yeah, yeah, now 222 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: you faced. I read online that you okay, go ahead, 223 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: cook for a moment. 224 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: You need to make sure we removed everything from the 225 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes they put special packages plas. 226 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, they put a little seasoning pack in there. Yeah. 227 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 2: Profession okay, now yeah, just watch me the tree. 228 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna watch okay. 229 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you see how professionally make hands moving. 230 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I see. 231 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: It's years and toms and toms. That's product. Okay, Now gently. 232 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: Success, are you cooking one or two package? Cook too? 233 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? You're right, two of us? 234 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: No long yeah, you need to have something for dinner 235 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: to exactly. 236 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: I understand. Oh how these buildings is especially especially pick 237 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: up these packages for me to straggle. 238 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: Yes, you are really struggling with this. 239 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: Are you cheating me? It's required all effort. 240 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: I know you don't make this on a regular Let 241 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: me help you. It's gonna fly everywhere. 242 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: There just using some devices. It's helping the process. By 243 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: the way. Eight and again the most important remove all 244 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: moon cooking parts because they don't just mistaken many times. 245 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: Oh with the packet, you're hilarious. 246 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: Well not me. They just put and there's no warn, acknowledged, nothing. 247 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: Okay, there you got your little package out the way. 248 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the same it's awesome. 249 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: No, I need some device right there, yep, use that, 250 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine. 251 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: Something my practice. 252 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, because when it gets soft, they'll move around through it. Okay. 253 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: I heard I had read online that early on in 254 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: your studies you faced discrimination for being Jewish. Is that true? 255 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: Look back to church union to be jew This was 256 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: not the most popular line. Yeah, but here's the probably 257 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: The point is it's nothing to do with religion. Yeah, 258 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: to be Jewish your bloodline, Yes, it's it was got 259 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: domestic id and kind of domestic pastor. And this was 260 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: line five, what was called nationality. But it's not nationality 261 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: in the way of your citizenship emotionality. 262 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: It's your bloodline, yeah, your DNA, Yeah, yeah, it's and 263 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: it's was. 264 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: Saying and I was saying Juan as people saying Russian 265 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: or Ukrainian. Yes. And for some reason, actually we can 266 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: talk for a long time where jew was not very 267 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: popular in Soviet Union, especially after after Jews started immigrating 268 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: to Israel from the Soviet Union the United States. And 269 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: basically the idea was logical trested logical right, because the 270 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: approach was, okay, if Ju going atviation university and country 271 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: will teach him, he will be exposed to all secrets. 272 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: So the sign and after this goodbye, you can find 273 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: him on Israel in the I mean it was and 274 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 2: of course Soviet was got anti Semitic policy government, the 275 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: government and not talking about on everyday life. It's always 276 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: wasn't the simitis wasn't present starting from a long time ago. 277 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: It was there, but from the government point, it was 278 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 2: restriction for Jew which university you can go and which 279 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: position you can obtain and blah, blah blah, a member 280 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 2: of the party, not a member of the party. And 281 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: it's a lot of this. 282 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: So how do you handle that when you're going to 283 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: into aviation where you need a lot of schooling. 284 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: I was never able to attend aviation. But in my 285 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: seating leave in Ukraine where I grow up was wonderful 286 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: library and it was my education and I was all 287 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: my life. I very lucky. I meet wonderful people. In 288 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: some point when I was probably teenager, A meet people 289 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: who was working in one of the vs large company 290 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: in Soviet Union who built big airplanes, and they was 291 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: got volunteer like volunteer design bureau. They was designing a 292 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 2: receipts and three times from work there was classical engineers. Yeah, 293 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: it's as much you can be engineered. 294 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 295 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: And the one of the guys is no longer with us. 296 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: His name was Alex Blankio. He wrote some article on 297 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: kids technical magazine. In this article or something letter he 298 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: responded and from there every sing begin. 299 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: And so did you start working for the company once 300 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: he's he responded. 301 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: Or no, it was no company. It was was hobby, okay, 302 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: hobby for him, for his colleagues and for me, I 303 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: was this kid who was literally believed, this will be 304 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: my profession. Yeah, through my career. 305 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: She respawned, and it was so what happens when he responds? 306 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: Do you go work for him? Do you intern? Do 307 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: you hang out with him? 308 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: Do you know it's just starts writing technical letter to 309 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: each other. He wasn't ky if I wasn't. Yeah, but 310 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: it's not you remember about the ex. 311 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: Experiment? 312 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, don't blame me late to. 313 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: The Okay, all right? So he popped egg into the ramen, 314 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: got it. 315 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: Brooking? It was not mindful anyway. 316 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: Do you have to mix it? 317 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, before it's become. 318 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: Before it becomes a pie. Okay, okay, and then when 319 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and stay out of it. But do 320 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: you have to season it? Or you got to drop 321 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: the seasoning in there? Man, I'm helping you. Man, We've 322 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: all got to eat this. 323 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's secret. 324 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: So as what point do you move to New York? 325 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: Because New York the first place you leave or where's 326 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: the first place you leave to go to in America? 327 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: New York, New York is supposed to be like everyone 328 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: change has become. Garbagioe was a really huge figure in 329 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: this life. He changed a lot of stuff. Francis was 330 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: a very nick moment when Soviets was got Garbachioe and 331 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: in America was Reagan. It was two absolutely outstanding tuberments, 332 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: right and start Pedistroica. In Sweet Union, we start more 333 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: able to create our private company to the airships and 334 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: do the airships and everything was developed. Swears Union collapse 335 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: become not the easy time on Sweet Union collapse because 336 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: the parts we was buying through all the countryan collabs. 337 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: Now economical lateness and supply chain, it's all become distructive. 338 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: And in ninety one was before official s Virginian collapse, 339 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: the Kijibi, the Communists was trying to take over the 340 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: country and at this moment it was start clearly understanding 341 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: they can come back. 342 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 343 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: And it was very simple outside of everything, not acceptance 344 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: of the Soviet system and believing it's really people. It's 345 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: basically believing in this idea. There was not so many 346 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: places and it was really understand me and my colleagues. 347 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: We was clearly understanding at this moment nothing to do there, yeah, 348 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: not because we cannot proceed our dream building the best airship. 349 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: And the same time this evil can come back. And 350 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: we see it's come back in Russia, right, yeah, you 351 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: see the artist startled probably in search Union. We was 352 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 2: never thinking about this possible. Yeah, and from this point, 353 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: oh yeah, I forgot to mention. In late actually late eighties, 354 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 2: me and my family and with my parents, my wonderful 355 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: was and my sister, we received the the refuge status 356 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: from United status was able to immigrate to the United States. 357 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 2: When Perestroica begin and Hope begin, it was hey, it's 358 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: better to stay where you are, right yeah, because you 359 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: could believe it the place where you are that the 360 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: hope become let's say normal place. 361 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 362 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: And of course in ninety one when it's happening, it 363 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: was pure message, that's it, nothing to do there, okay, 364 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: And I walk to my father, told him that's it. 365 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: They can come back, trying to pack they left before 366 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: me and I arrived in the United State in ninety three. 367 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: And how old were you? 368 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: I was pretty old, okay, I was twenty nine. 369 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let's stop fairly young, but yeah, yeah, compare years. 370 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: Now young, yeah yah, but back then I was pretty 371 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: anyway ollow trying to confuse me. 372 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: No, I'm shying, you know what you're probably burning down up. Okay, 373 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: I should have left the overhead camera on, man, so 374 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: I could see what you're doing. Do you need to 375 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: add some water to it? It looks like you some help. 376 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: Come on, I'll help you out. 377 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: Man. 378 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: We're eating some egg and heavily seasoned ramen. You need 379 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: this water, at least a little bit of it. Let's 380 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: use this before No, I think you could stir it 381 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: up and feed us. 382 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: Okay, are ready? 383 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: Let's see does the egg cooked? Does your theory work? Sorry, 384 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: all right, don't feed me. I'm gonna eat it. I'm hungry. 385 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 2: But how youth? 386 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: I have good health insurance. That's crazy that this is 387 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: the first time someone has ever asked me that. Okay, 388 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: that looks good. 389 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: I give you the best sport someone. Yeah, remember this 390 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 2: next name? 391 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I will remember. This looks good. 392 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: Listeners did best? 393 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. It looks good. It looks legit. The 394 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: egg looks cooked. 395 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: Listen, my teeth was growing this. They're still a wife. 396 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: Let's try this. 397 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: I'll whatever less will take this? Mean? Yes? 398 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: Okay, ready, yeah, let's take this. Please, little protective bodies, 399 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: we know he cooked this egg right into the pot. 400 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: Please protect it's name Braben. Mhm, what just it is fine? Wow, 401 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: someone someone had to test. 402 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: It had to be me. 403 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: Huh. Honestly, you did pretty good. The noodles are heavily overcooked. 404 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: You know what, I had no expectations for you. I'm 405 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: just happy that you cooked, because I promise you. When 406 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: I met you, you were like, I don't cook. 407 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: It's perfect, it's fun. Yeah, it's the best piece. 408 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: You can't mess up. Romen, It's impossible. Have you done 409 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: it before? You're hilarious. No, that's so the first airship 410 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: you designed, you end up I guess do you end 411 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: up get advertising, ends up being your first client or 412 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: like with the. 413 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: In the Service Union, Yes, okay, in the United States, Yeah, 414 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: because we ended eventually after New York, we ended in 415 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: the Cuttle Air Force Base in central Tolifornia. We was 416 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 2: lucky big. There was wonderful Governor Pete Wilson who invits 417 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: and the base was on the closure in the protest 418 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: of the closing. But from one point in this base 419 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: was a bunch of the Russians speaking. Nothing was speaking. 420 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 2: The Russians speaking was building the airship in one corner 421 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: of the Hunger and another corner of the hunger was 422 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: B fifty two EMPTYC one thirty five going through active 423 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: duty flying. 424 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you did I know it said that you 425 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: designed the air airship for the military, right can you? 426 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? Military, what you're trying to achieve? We build a 427 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 2: lot of airship advertising for surveillance. Airstarts today the definitely 428 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: the most successful company in the world in this area 429 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: and a lot of styff. The only one, the only 430 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: one company in the United States who achieved and produced 431 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: type certified by a fairship. What type certifying by every airship, 432 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 2: the only one on the second company in the world 433 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: who actively producing type certifi airships. Basically they a lot 434 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: of commercial flights airplanes. When you're going to flights, the 435 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: same certification on blowing seventy seven or an hour. 436 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: So your airships can do commercial flights, and I know 437 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: it can do cargo, but it can't. 438 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: But seven ceraplace. Yeah, airship is just pot work now, 439 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: it's all about application, right. 440 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 441 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: The legis let's put this wing. Let's step away from 442 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: airs if everything right, If you look at the world 443 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: globally right now, they're very lucky. We saw the rise 444 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: of internet is so the rise of the mobile communication. 445 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: Now you're watching the rise of the artificial talents. Yea, 446 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: what it's all about about freedom? Yes, Internet, when internet 447 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: is to make information excestreme information available everywhere. Before we 448 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: uys need to go to library for information. Now it's 449 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 2: in your hands. You got everything in any book, any 450 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: data well for you, doesn't matter where you are. Yes, 451 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: you don't need to go and laborates infrastructure right same 452 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: heading with mobile communication. Before we was going to need 453 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: to send message. We always need to pick up the 454 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: phone from what's connected with wires or fax machine, what's 455 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 2: connected with wires. 456 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: To infrastructure infrastructure. 457 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: Right now we can communicate anywhere because of mobile communication. Yes, 458 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: it's freedom without infrastructure or communication. Yes, but only left 459 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: it only left for mankind our development, but only not 460 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: change its transportation of the cargo, Yes, because we're still 461 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: moving the fray same way as. 462 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: Train car the traditional routes. But with your company, you 463 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: don't do it that way, you guys. 464 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: Because here's the point, right because limit your limitation. It's 465 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: not in the truck, it's a freeway. Yeah, your limitation 466 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: not in the airplane. It's where the airport. It's all 467 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: the limitation infrastructure with if you can against say I 468 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: can do the same for logistic what was done Internet 469 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: for information, which yes, because I don't need a restructure. 470 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: Now it's just as a skin equation the nature of 471 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: vership because it's buoys, it's just floating without spending enters. 472 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: But now it's how you make this device and the 473 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: number of the technical challenges to make this device practical. 474 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: One of them you don't need to You must be 475 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: able not to learn to pick up in a float 476 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: cargo because if you're coming to the ground, that's it ground. 477 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 2: Your infrastruction using everything is one of them. Yes, another 478 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: one of course, this kind of classical everyone was whole boons. 479 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: Now let ballons go, it's goes no imagine if they 480 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: bring the cargo, you'll drop the cargo. And what happened 481 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: to ers is going up. Yes, we need to liam 482 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: how control what is called buoyancy to make sure we're 483 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: not going happ and we stay where we're supposed to 484 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: be stayed. Yes, this was always major to problems. Why 485 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: as today we're looking in the skuis there of course 486 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: military federal government because they got the largest task. It's 487 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 2: not protect the United States, it's mean resupply of the 488 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: true sports projections and the same time, US military responsible 489 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 2: for disaster relief around the world. It's when something happened 490 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: in Haiti or Thailand, the fiscal coming, it's US military 491 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: who providing disasters for them. It was natural equation to 492 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: solve this logistical problem of the facing every day. Yes, 493 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: and of course Department of Defense and starting from Dartwin 494 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 2: with the special Agency who create the Internet and everything 495 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: modern day, put the challenge. Yes, the challenge was can 496 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: someone coming this system, this airship, what can control the points? 497 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 498 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: It was competition, yes, but no, no one of our 499 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: competitor has got any chance. That's impossible to learn discwel 500 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: and federal government following with one program next program. They 501 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: help us to build our prototypeical with massive participation and 502 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: honestly is one of the uniques of our government of 503 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: a government, federal government able to facilitate this kind of 504 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: technological change. 505 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: They put they had the initiative, so say let's invest 506 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: in the in the future of where things can because that. 507 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: Poet what I mentioned it was created during the president 508 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: is not how and THEDEA of the Defense Advanced Research 509 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: Progress Agency is when so it launched the Sputnik it's 510 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: start alight and there was a big surprise in the 511 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 2: United States, and basically in how I created that saying 512 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: no more surprises technological. 513 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay. 514 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: This agency ask you these challenges, So find the solution 515 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: for unsolvable solutions. Yes, something, but no, everyone's saying no, 516 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: it's impossible. Yes, and this agency saying, hey, no, you'll try. 517 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: What of the stuff what they're doing, of course, and 518 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: it and the trust can but it is absolutely normal 519 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: and they will be not able to do the significant 520 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: step forward looking internet or steals or GPS all this 521 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: was caring from this agency, Yes, and it was lucky. 522 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: Now be part of this story. 523 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: Yes, now, but where you are today, you are revolutionizing 524 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: the way packages are delivered now, correct, It is very good. 525 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: Yes. 526 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: The thing that I find most interesting about what you're 527 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: doing is you're so far in advance to the future. 528 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: For all you guys listening out there that haven't researched 529 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: Errows Corporation essentially the same right now. When we order 530 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: a package, it comes through truck trained boat with restrictions 531 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: or lack of like you say, a lack of freedom. 532 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: But because there's all these old school infrastructures in place, 533 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: but with Errows Corporation, what they're able to do. And 534 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put this in Layman's terms for non 535 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: technical terms so you could correct me. From what I 536 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: understand is you're able to deliver packages from your airship. 537 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm guessing like a via drone and it it air drops. 538 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: That was like the best. I didn't want to. I'm 539 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: so embarrassed to do it in front of you, but 540 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: that's really exciting. 541 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: Rate and simple. Right, It's all about freedom, yes, freedom 542 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: of receiving the package, freedom of civil rights, freedom, right, 543 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 2: it's all there. It's all about freedom and social or 544 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 2: technical or economics. It's all about freedom. And as we 545 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 2: were talking about cell phone, it's your freedom, it's your 546 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 2: freedom from the virus exactly now today, right, the COVID 547 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: nineteen was horrible dark time, yes, but this kind of 548 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: time always producing some unique solutions, and COD nineteen produce them. 549 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 2: Online shopping, yeah, yes, from the Amazon. Amazon become Amazon 550 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 2: during the COVID nineteen because it's much more comfortable for 551 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: us using the online shopping. It's much more effective, much 552 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: more cheaper, and we got more freedom. We're not spending 553 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: time to go to Walmart's story. Spent hours, we got 554 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: more three times spent his family and exactly. Of course, 555 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 2: it's all about logistics, right in the logistics. Yeah, yeah, 556 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 2: because we don't have logistics. It doesn't matter how many 557 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 2: hours you spend on Amazon web page, the package will 558 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 2: not arrive. Yes, of course we become different, We become 559 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 2: less patient. We want to have stuff now, wars case 560 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: in two hours from now. Yes, they're no longer willing 561 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: to wait for other Roman. 562 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: Rise exactly in one week. 563 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: Yes, great. Ten years ago, the visionary Jeff Basil, he 564 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: was clearly understand this and he was coming, Hey, here's 565 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 2: the urban city, right, and how can delivery what people 566 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: order in a couple of hours, Yes, let's a couple 567 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: of hours and the city of drone. 568 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 1: Oh he did come with the idea of drown. 569 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 2: The idea, however, becoming to real life, right, And it's 570 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 2: a yeah picture, it's picture and very simple. You cannot 571 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 2: fly drown if you don't if remote pilots, pilot or 572 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,439 Speaker 2: the drone don't see the drone exactly, and of course 573 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 2: on city is impossible. Yes, and it was become real issues. 574 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 2: Why we don't see drown when we was, and again 575 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: when it was coming to about a year ago, a 576 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: little bit more concludingly saying, okay, we already build the 577 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 2: best shipsyes. Next we can build another best Yes, but 578 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 2: it's not fun anymore because you're already done. 579 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: Yes, of course, because you're always moving the goal post, right. 580 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you constantly feel hungry and poor exactly. The moment 581 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: was you're not feel poor as life ended, and to 582 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 2: continue to feel poor, we decide to create the industry. 583 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 2: We have very she was, we're able to do everything. Industry. 584 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 2: It's about address every human needs, starting with packages. 585 00:37:59,600 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: Okay. 586 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 2: Now we're saying, okay, great, I grabbed the drone, I 587 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 2: put on my airship and make my reship as flying 588 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 2: the house. 589 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now my drawing pick. 590 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 2: Up the stuff from my airship and flying to your doorstep. Yes, 591 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 2: and the pilot to the drawn located on airship. You 592 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 2: always see the drone. 593 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 1: Yes. 594 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: Whatever. Okay? Is this safety everything okay? 595 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: Okay? 596 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 2: And you're addressing huge market. Yes, because when you start 597 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 2: building industry, it's about economy and how much money your 598 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 2: investor will make and how much money your clients will make. Yes, 599 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 2: and signe to this economy of course, nothing biggest the 600 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 2: logistic Yes, words logistics. It's not sexy words, yes, absolutely not, 601 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 2: but in reality it's huge. 602 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: Yes, we all rely on it. Yeah, it's it's the 603 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 1: largest thing. Literally, everything we have relies on it. 604 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: And I can to you delivery much cheaper and much lester, exactly. 605 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: But now you see where the with everyone relying on deliveries, 606 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: you already see how logistics is getting crammed up because 607 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: they're trying to cut the cost of logistics, the cost 608 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: to distribute the packages, but at the same time increase 609 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: the speed of which it gets to the person. So 610 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: now if you order a package on Amazon, not trying 611 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: to throw shade at Amazon, but your package can say 612 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna arrive in a day, sometimes it's two to 613 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: three days. Is no longer dependable, You can no longer 614 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 1: depend on it anymore. But now you're This is why 615 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: I said to you the night we met, when you 616 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: said you were crazy, I was like, crazy changes the 617 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: world because what you're able to do is say, Okay, 618 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna think so grandiose that I'm gonna say I'm 619 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: gonna use these arrowships that I designed or and we're 620 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: gonna use it to address this solution. It straight reminds 621 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: me of I don't know something so far the Jetsons, 622 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that far in the 623 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: future obviously not because you're doing it now. 624 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 2: So it's not because. 625 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: So only deliver packages in California. 626 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 2: We're doing what we're doing right again to boring stuff 627 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 2: of logistic right or try to use you got Amazon 628 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 2: when right? Who by the way, is very inefficient because 629 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: one went delivered two hundred and fifty packages and required 630 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: all day right, yeah, because of traffic, location of the 631 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: houses outside, blah blah blah blah, we can do the 632 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: same only four thousand packages and a couple of hours 633 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 2: versus ten hours. 634 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: Four thousand and a couple of hours. 635 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 2: Yes, that's actually lessen a couple hours, much less. But 636 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 2: because he has hairdship, he has drums and he's just 637 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 2: flying delivery ups. 638 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: And down and they delivered individual house. 639 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 2: That's yes, absolutely absolutely this next for this we created 640 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 2: she would call Ira e mail eight or six. It's 641 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 2: small and airship everything small. It's huge, it's just four 642 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 2: hundred feet long. Kids a small one unable to care 643 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 2: for thousand packages. And we call this last mile because 644 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 2: last miles, mean delivered it to your doorstep your business. 645 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,479 Speaker 2: The next one, how the stuff moved between the house 646 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 2: to the house. Yeah, it's from very house to the store. 647 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 648 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 2: This boarding term and logistic it's middle. 649 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: Mile, meadow mile. Okay, I got it, middle mile. 650 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 2: It's you need to move pallets. We all saw that 651 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 2: semi trail tracks with care just five six pallets inside, 652 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 2: but there's six so much space right now we're coming 653 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 2: with this next model and of other airscraft electrical viable. 654 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: Boy in er see it's sixty six store. It's able 655 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: to move pallets. Wow. 656 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: So wait, what was the one that delivers the pack was? 657 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? 658 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: Metal mile? What was the last one? 659 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 2: You said, last? 660 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: Last mile? Meadle? Minds last But you've already accomplished last. 661 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 2: Mile, and now the exploring the build already last mile, Ergy. 662 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 2: Now the building has been thousand and thousands. Of the vehicles, 663 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: the boat, not one, not too not three because I 664 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: was saying it's boring to build again, Ergy, already done best. 665 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: But now your aerowships and I'm again I've been digging 666 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: doing research. But the aerowships are they kept at one 667 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: thousand pounds per airship? 668 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 2: No again for last mile on last miles four thousand 669 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 2: packagees over ten. 670 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: Thousand pounds, ten thousand pounds in the last it's eighteen 671 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: thousand pounds eighteen towns. 672 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because this way today the city of La Yes, 673 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 2: and they got a bunch of the warehouses around the 674 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 2: city because deliver it to your district, to your portion outside. 675 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 2: You can know you need to be close to this 676 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 2: because delivery across the seat. Everyone trade to drive in 677 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 2: the traffic hours in the city. And we all understanding 678 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 2: it's crazy. Yes, it does now, it's right, take a 679 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 2: long time. Now I can have one biggery house, but 680 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 2: a lot of small ones. 681 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: Yes. 682 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 2: And I'm just flying from this big way house with 683 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: my achieve and the distance it's not big, it's it's 684 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 2: twenty emails fly to max. But be moving all these trucks, wents, 685 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,919 Speaker 2: delivery wents in the street. Yes, and you're having fun. 686 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 2: It's more secure because I'm going to drop your package 687 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: in your backyard, yes or court yard. 688 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: Yes. 689 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 2: It's basically the people who are stealing the Amazon packages 690 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 2: will be retired now they cannot steal. They can find 691 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 2: different jobs more. It's more productive. I changed complete understanding. 692 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 2: You don't need to wait you can order and receive. 693 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 2: Now you ask the business, right you're ordering I don't 694 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 2: know these microphones? Yes, now I can bring to you 695 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 2: polots of these microphones now, yes, versus for you to 696 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 2: wait and wait. Yes, you're making more money because you're 697 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 2: waiting less, you're paying less for delivery. Yes, your client's 698 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 2: more happy. You're coming back to everyone's happy. 699 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: And that's what that was gonna be My next question. 700 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: So now you invest all this money into the technology. 701 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: This is where it gets mathematically. This is where I'm curious. 702 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: How does it break down where it costs the client 703 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: it saves the client money in is it in the 704 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: long run or the short run? 705 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 2: Immediately immediately. 706 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying to not use technical of course, go ahead, 707 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: I like it. 708 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 2: I like it. 709 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: Get passionate about it. 710 00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 2: Okay, think this way today. The cost what you're paying 711 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 2: sometimes you're paying for this delivery of your package is 712 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 2: handing payment. Amazon saying to you, for example, free delivery. No, 713 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 2: it's not the free delivery. 714 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, of. 715 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 2: Course it's expensive delivery. 716 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 717 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 2: You can imagine how much really be couse delivery when 718 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 2: one guy one went delivery only two hundred fifty packages. Yeah, 719 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 2: very expensive. Yeah, plus and children's from the way and 720 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 2: guess on the way. Yeah, working said blah blah, very 721 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 2: expensive proposition, right, yeah, of course if you will get 722 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 2: one big win deliveryus versus two hundred fifty packages, if 723 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:46,439 Speaker 2: you delivered five thousand packages versus one day every hour, Yeah, 724 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 2: she has your money. 725 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: Yes, I see it. So how do you grow a 726 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: corporation like this? There's a like venture capital? Like, how 727 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: does it? I'm confused, like I don't know, I genuinely 728 00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: don't know. 729 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 2: But they working in this life. 730 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, of course, how do you scale a company 731 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: like yours? 732 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 2: Money? 733 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: Investment investment? 734 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we, of course we are outside of the 735 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 2: venture capital. 736 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so how do you fund the company that's outside 737 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: of venture capital? 738 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 2: Very simple. There's a number of the ways. It's private 739 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 2: institution of financing England, the large financial company providing investment. 740 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 2: And of course it's family. It's what the beauty of the. 741 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,800 Speaker 1: Did you say family? 742 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 2: Public? 743 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: Public? Public? Because they spend all their money on the 744 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: more hilarious did you say they spend all the money 745 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: on the aeroship of course? 746 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah it's the Wall Street right, Yeah. 747 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: The corporation is publicly traded not yet not yeah, okay, 748 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: the personal. 749 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 2: Visit our web page w w aerosct dot com. Were 750 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,439 Speaker 2: it now, it's called the Security Change Commission. It's called 751 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 2: test the water. We basically it's no obligated. We're looking 752 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 2: at how many people willing to buy our stacks if 753 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 2: you become public? Okay, some kind of register, it's not obligated. 754 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 2: When people just express the interest. 755 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: Oh where do they go to do that? 756 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 2: But to our web page. It's again w w irs 757 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 2: craft A E R O s craft dot com and 758 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 2: the one tap registered. Now it sounds when you got 759 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 2: all our story, what will happening? And you can register 760 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,760 Speaker 2: as potential either going public. 761 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm going to be I'm going to be on 762 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: that list. 763 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going to watch make sure you I have 764 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 2: to be on the list. 765 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,240 Speaker 1: You're the future, No, the future? 766 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 2: What is now? 767 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: You are now? 768 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 2: Exactly? Yes? Yeah no, but this is the beauty in 769 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 2: eating when they grab the future. 770 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: And put now, Yeah, the future is now with you, 771 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: The future is now. 772 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 2: No, I am just one of them. You want to 773 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 2: including people nine by the way, yes, because all them 774 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 2: it's not happening. 775 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: And then just for you guys, is gonna You're gonna 776 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: allow us to come to to the hangar and check 777 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,240 Speaker 1: it out. And then do you have an actual pilot 778 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: that sits in the aircraft? 779 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:24,439 Speaker 2: Yeah? 780 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 1: Oh so there is somebody up there there or is 781 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 1: there like a million people in the aircraft? Fire? 782 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 2: Again depends on the model. Yes, the Cargege pilots in 783 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 2: the airplane, because if you want to fly over to 784 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 2: the Sieges, yeah, of course you need to have pilots. 785 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 1: And then when you this is random, this is like 786 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,439 Speaker 1: an ignorant question. But if you ever have to fly somewhere, yeah, 787 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: do you ever just say. 788 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 2: Yes, my here's the only one solo flight was kept 789 00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:03,800 Speaker 2: him in Chine in ninety five for ninety six because 790 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 2: of anyway, they was very poor. We built some airsive 791 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, middle of the nightighties and the 792 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 2: pilot who was supposed to be coming to China and 793 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 2: the ship for some reason, she was finding a good 794 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 2: looking girl and he not arrived, and I got my people. 795 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 2: I never flyers before, and I tell touchiness, I'm the pilot. 796 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,320 Speaker 2: I arrived in China and they're saying, there's your license. 797 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 2: I think they don't have license, but I'm the pilot 798 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 2: and they just showed to me on the one guy 799 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 2: who's thinking in the corner with white helmet with big 800 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 2: red star on the helmet. Think it's your co pile 801 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 2: And look on the I never knew before. And I 802 00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 2: look on this guy and I was just want to 803 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 2: ask so many kids he has? And can I have 804 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 2: the phone number of his wife? Because probability of him 805 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 2: be alive after my flight? Who knows? And I try 806 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 2: to convince Chinese I am experienced, I know what I'm doing. 807 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 2: They always need to fly alone in the second, No 808 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 2: way it's gonna China and never alone. To the former 809 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 2: flying alone Chinese airspace, I tell them I'm okay, I'm 810 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 2: from such union. I'm really communist. After Tory minus discussion side, 811 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 2: after this probably three four hours discussion, this bigin I 812 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 2: receive approval and I am proud to fears and proba 813 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,840 Speaker 2: or alone in Chinese airspace. 814 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. All right, I can't believe that story. 815 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: All right, thank you Egor for cooking for me and 816 00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: spending time with me. I hope you had a good time, absolutely, and. 817 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah you and your little bit, but. 818 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna be able to come out and check out 819 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: your digs okay, cool, and I want to go. Can 820 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: am I able to go inside the airship for real? 821 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: And then the is the outside delicate? I will see Okay, 822 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: I have so many questions. I did a lot of research, 823 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: so I'm very excited and I hope to I will 824 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: see packages being delivered to my home, bea drone, and 825 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 1: I will never forget this moment. It's every single ying. Yes, yes, 826 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for tuning in, and be sure to 827 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: fo go to ww dot arrows arrowscraft dot com if 828 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,879 Speaker 1: you do want to potentially get stuck or just keep 829 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: up with the corporation and watch everything they're doing, or 830 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,439 Speaker 1: if you're a business owner and you want to sign 831 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 1: up to get your cargo delivered to your customers. 832 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 2: Right or you just want to see cool stuff, or 833 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 2: you just. 834 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: Want to see cool stuff. 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