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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour.
Speaker 2: On a Tucker Tuesday, Ross Tucker again in the Big Chair.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow will be my last day this week, filling in
Speaker 2: for Dan who's on a family VACA. And all I
Speaker 2: can think about was the joy of victory and the
Speaker 2: agony of defeat last night. You know, the contrast is
Speaker 2: just ridiculous. I'm watching and we actually before the show,
Speaker 2: Paully had some of the video that we were checking out.
Speaker 2: The Panthers players throwing off their gloves, taking off their helmets,
Speaker 2: running onto the ice like their eight year olds going
Speaker 2: to get ice cream. I mean, it was just the
Speaker 2: pure joy. Meanwhile, the looks on.
Speaker 3: The Oilers' faces.
Speaker 2: And then the College World Series where Tennessee wins it
Speaker 2: for the first time in school history.
Speaker 3: They go out there.
Speaker 2: But by the way, you do not want to be
Speaker 2: at the bottom of a dog pile like that. I've
Speaker 2: at the bottom one of those piles one time. That's
Speaker 2: not a fun experience. You're like, get off of me now.
Speaker 2: I mean, you get three or four dudes on top
Speaker 2: of you. That is not a good feeling. So hopefully
Speaker 2: not on the bottom, and hopefully doesn't last too long.
Speaker 2: And then the tax A and m players. You see
Speaker 2: those guys, they it was like they were statues. They
Speaker 2: were just staring out at the Tennessee guys celebrating. I
Speaker 2: think that's an interesting phenomenon that I've never experienced, which
Speaker 2: is losing that championship game.
Speaker 3: It seems like the losing team they could just leave.
Speaker 2: At least in baseball, the tex Ay and Maggie's could
Speaker 2: just leave. Hockey's a little different because they have that
Speaker 2: end of series handshake, which.
Speaker 3: By the way, that you know, when you're like a
Speaker 3: high school football player, at the end of the game,
Speaker 3: you go there to go good game, great game, great game,
Speaker 3: good game, great game, good game, gread game.
Speaker 2: That's forced the end of series hockey handshake line. It
Speaker 2: just seems so genuine and authentic. It seems like Bill Lindsay,
Speaker 2: our guy that came. I think it's one of the
Speaker 2: things I love so much about hockey is just the
Speaker 2: authenticity of the guys.
Speaker 3: PAULI.
Speaker 4: It's one of those traditions. I can remember the first
Speaker 4: time I saw it, I was, you know, probably a kid.
Speaker 4: I was like, no one else does this. You don't
Speaker 4: see baseball they run in pylon. Sometimes in baseball in
Speaker 4: the World Series, a guy will be on the top
Speaker 4: step a losing team and watch the painful celebration of
Speaker 4: the other team. Or football, I've seen some players they
Speaker 4: sit there and watch. They want it to dig yet, yeah,
Speaker 4: they want to be burned in their mind. But that's
Speaker 4: one of the traditions that if it's not in your sport,
Speaker 4: it's never going to be in your sport, you know that.
Speaker 4: Like football, ever, say you know what NFL player should
Speaker 4: do after the Super Bowl, let's line up. It's never
Speaker 4: gonna happen. They rope you off right.
Speaker 2: Hockey, they come flying out there with the ropes and
Speaker 2: you're on the wrong side of them.
Speaker 4: It gives hockey players, especially for those who are casualt hockey,
Speaker 4: when they watch the Stanley Cup final, a new level
Speaker 4: respect at the end when they see that. If you
Speaker 4: when you see it for the first time.
Speaker 2: The eye contact did they make with each other, like
Speaker 2: you could you could teach your kids the proper way
Speaker 2: to shake someone's hand. They look at each other, they
Speaker 2: give them a firm handshake and you can tell they
Speaker 2: say good job man, great, great, great job man, congratulations.
Speaker 3: Like that is awesome.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna be joined by Maddie Rose in a minute
Speaker 2: or two here to get the perspective. We had them
Speaker 2: on yesterday and it was pretty awesome.
Speaker 3: It wasn't mean.
Speaker 2: Spirited in any way, but it was very clear that
Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's weird because I don't like
Speaker 2: rooting for people to lose, but I also appreciate the
Speaker 2: high level of I don't know what agitation contempt that
Speaker 2: they have for each other between Edmonton and Calgary.
Speaker 4: Paul, Yeah, we've been talking about this going back to
Speaker 4: last week. If you're Canadian and you're not a fan
Speaker 4: of the Edmondson Oilers, any part of your root for
Speaker 4: the Oilers against the Panthers because Canada has been shut
Speaker 4: out of the Stanley Cup their teams have for ninety three, right,
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety three. Is there any part of you that
Speaker 4: would like to see your rival top of the American team?
Speaker 2: And what's interesting about that is, like, so the Flyers
Speaker 2: have not won the Cup in a long long time,
Speaker 2: the seventies. Okay, let's say it was reversed, and let's
Speaker 2: say an American team hadn't won the Cup in thirty
Speaker 2: years and the Canadians had been winning it all the time.
Speaker 2: If it was like the Penguins in this Stanley Cup final,
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you right now, not a single person.
Speaker 3: In Philadelphia would root for the Penguins.
Speaker 2: Not a So like, on the one end, we we're
Speaker 2: like surprised that these guys in Canada aren't rooting for
Speaker 2: the other Canadian teams because we think they're nice and
Speaker 2: is this important for your country? Don't you want to
Speaker 2: see them win? Meanwhile, if rules were reversed and it
Speaker 2: was the Rangers or the Penguins, Flyers fans would watch
Speaker 2: it with intense passion, rooting for the Canadian team another country,
Speaker 2: a different country, as opposed to Like I said, there
Speaker 2: were more Americans rooting for the Oilers last night, a
Speaker 2: higher percentage than there were Canadians. Speaking of Americans, the
Speaker 2: best American athletes looked to punch their tickets to the
Speaker 2: Paris Olympics. The US Olympic team trials part of making
Speaker 2: Team USA. I looked at it a little bit last
Speaker 2: night when I flipped over or at NBC last night,
Speaker 2: it was the steeplechase, which is.
Speaker 3: My all time favorite.
Speaker 2: Why are you there's a track where they run events
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden there's an event where they
Speaker 2: have to jump over this thing and avoid the water.
Speaker 3: What are we talking about? Now?
Speaker 4: That seems like really old school, Like it wasn't just
Speaker 4: we were bored in the normal four hundred meters are
Speaker 4: getting boring and let's throw in a big, you know,
Speaker 4: thing of water.
Speaker 2: But you can you imagine like you you're in charge
Speaker 2: of getting the new track together, and you know, you
Speaker 2: get it, get to one and a half million dollars
Speaker 2: and you're like, well, don't forget you need to get
Speaker 2: the gate and the water and the hole for this
Speaker 2: people chase, like what we're trying.
Speaker 5: To already want to put the hole in the water?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know where the hole in the
Speaker 2: water and this deeple chase goes.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't even know what the deal is.
Speaker 5: Don't forget the hole in the water.
Speaker 2: And by the way, nobody ever says in the history
Speaker 2: of the world, nobody has ever said when they're eight
Speaker 2: years old, I uh, I just really want to be
Speaker 2: the world's best deeeple chase runner.
Speaker 3: Never that, whoever that person is.
Speaker 2: They failed at what they were trying to do, like
Speaker 2: whatever event they wanted to do, the one hundred meters
Speaker 2: or whatever it was, they failed, And someone said, you
Speaker 2: know what nobody else wants.
Speaker 6: You know, Chase.
Speaker 4: You're leaving in a few days now. We're gonna have
Speaker 4: the whole steel chase contingent on our back.
Speaker 2: Can you name can anybody here name a single steeplechaser?
Speaker 2: Does anybody here even really know what steeple chase is seton?
Speaker 5: You have two daughters, yes, either of them on a pony, Yes,
Speaker 5: there you go, steeple chasers.
Speaker 3: Why there's no pony involved? Isn't it.
Speaker 5: Oh, isn't it the one with the with the horse
Speaker 5: nos equestrian? Oh, what's the one where they jump over
Speaker 5: the things and stuff?
Speaker 3: Horse jumping? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh that's a steeple Chase's steeplechase.
Speaker 3: No steeple chase. They're actually running the long distance track.
Speaker 2: And what they run for like they run around the track.
Speaker 2: Like they run around the track like eight times.
Speaker 4: It's three thousand meters. It started in the nineteen twenty Olympics.
Speaker 5: Uh oh yeah, there's twenty run through the puddles.
Speaker 4: Right, there's twenty eight jump barriers and then there's a
Speaker 4: water barriers that are three and a half meters long
Speaker 4: after the jump like that.
Speaker 2: So then you're running around. You're running distance with wet sneakers.
Speaker 4: Wet sneakers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, who's this sounds like a lot of blissards to.
Speaker 3: Go back and watch.
Speaker 2: I guarantee the person that invented this could not win
Speaker 2: any other event. Was like I got to come up
Speaker 2: with something. I got to come up with some way
Speaker 2: to win the gold medal.
Speaker 4: We'll keep an eye, we're gonna look for more details.
Speaker 3: One of the people chase. Originally I never even met
Speaker 3: a steeple chaser.
Speaker 2: It's on foot, it's on foot and they jump over
Speaker 2: into puddles and they're like, oh he got he got
Speaker 2: good jump over the puddle.
Speaker 3: That's what was on NBC last night. Where do you
Speaker 3: practice that at the track where they just got the
Speaker 3: brand new hole of water?
Speaker 5: I don't know, like any any street that you ever
Speaker 5: run down as a kid.
Speaker 2: Actually that had to be how it started. Like you
Speaker 2: had to jump over a creek, probably up in Canada, probably,
Speaker 2: although that wasn't the creepy frozen in Canada. And let's
Speaker 2: find out for Mattie Rose, he joined us back to
Speaker 2: back How many times does this happen, PAULI? Where you've
Speaker 2: had a guest back to Back days? The guy's never
Speaker 2: been on the show before. Okay, he's a sports talk
Speaker 2: radio host in Calgary. You haven't had Larry Bird on
Speaker 2: the show back to Back days. You haven't had anybody
Speaker 2: on the back yet. Mattie Rose gets to be on
Speaker 2: the show back to Back Days.
Speaker 4: It's unique.
Speaker 2: Can you guys stay Fritzi, you're the guest booker. Can
Speaker 2: you ever think of another time where you've had a
Speaker 2: guest back to back days?
Speaker 3: Not really?
Speaker 7: Maybe there was a time where there was just breaking
Speaker 7: news with the same team two days in a row.
Speaker 7: So we put the person back on, but can't think
Speaker 7: of who that was.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, he texted me last night, Maddie, you
Speaker 2: have no idea how close you got to getting reported
Speaker 2: as junk because I have this text message that comes through.
Speaker 3: It's take eleven o'clock and I just need a text
Speaker 3: message elation and I'm like, elation from a four h
Speaker 3: three number. I think it was.
Speaker 2: I didn't in my phone, by the way, I already deleted
Speaker 2: the text, but I see like a four oh three number,
Speaker 2: and then it's like, by the way, this is Maddy Rose.
Speaker 3: So explain that elation. Now.
Speaker 2: You literally went out of your way to text me
Speaker 2: elation right when the game ended.
Speaker 3: Tell me about it.
Speaker 8: I had to tell everybody everyone that would listen, how
Speaker 8: relieved we were up in town for this to end
Speaker 8: in a way that wasn't the oilers hosting the cop
Speaker 8: and go in the reverse sweep. We saw so many
Speaker 8: Oilers jerseys wandering around town. I decided to stay at
Speaker 8: home and watch the game because I wasn't sure how
Speaker 8: it would behave publicly, And sure enough we got the
Speaker 8: result that we wanted. So everyone is feeling elated up here,
Speaker 8: like a big relief.
Speaker 3: That's that's the word, right, relief without.
Speaker 8: A doubt, Like it was one of our kind of
Speaker 8: topics on the show today. This relief that you're feeling
Speaker 8: today is like what and a lot of people were
Speaker 8: talking about, you know, when you finally make it home,
Speaker 8: maybe if you were, you know, clenching for like the
Speaker 8: last thirty minute of your drive home, things like that.
Speaker 8: So people were very relieved that the oilers were unable
Speaker 8: to push this thing over the edge.
Speaker 2: Aren't you guys supposed to be? I feel like I
Speaker 2: never knew Canadians were such haters.
Speaker 3: Why are you such a hater?
Speaker 8: Yeah, but hockey makes us different likes. It's one of
Speaker 8: those things that we all love and we all get
Speaker 8: a little bit primal about. So I think that there's
Speaker 8: a little bit of that gets involved. Plus the regional stuff.
Speaker 8: You guys know what it's like down in the US
Speaker 8: of all your US regional rivalries across the country, And
Speaker 8: that's what we are here. If this was another Canadian team,
Speaker 8: it wouldn't have been as intense, we wouldn't have cared
Speaker 8: nearly as much. But because this was the Oilers. It
Speaker 8: was very important for this too not to go well
Speaker 8: for Edmonton.
Speaker 3: What would it have been like today if Edmonton won
Speaker 3: on the show? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 8: I was really contemplating about maybe like skipping work if
Speaker 8: they had won, Yeah, starting to do job, getting into
Speaker 8: the trades, picking up something like scaffolding. Perhaps, I don't know.
Speaker 8: It was gonna be crazy like even as is. Like
Speaker 8: I mentioned, we saw so many Oilers jerseys and fans
Speaker 8: hanging around on the streets yesterday filling up the bars
Speaker 8: like it was one of those events that you couldn't
Speaker 8: get a table in downtown Calgary if you were trying
Speaker 8: to watch the game. So everybody was heavily invested. And
Speaker 8: every time that you know, even if you got buddies
Speaker 8: or they're not buddies, and you know, you always want
Speaker 8: to have the upper hand in those type of rivalries,
Speaker 8: and Calgary fans got to enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 8: We didn't have to do the holes, sad look towards
Speaker 8: the parade, you know, raising Connor McDavid's bander. We didn't
Speaker 8: have to do any of that today. So that was
Speaker 8: that was relieving for sure.
Speaker 2: Talk with Mattie Rose co host of the Big Show
Speaker 2: with Russick and Rose on sports Net nine sixty in Calgary,
Speaker 2: the radio home for the Calgary Flames. So che Cook,
Speaker 2: I missed this, but he shouted you guys out after
Speaker 2: the game evident. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you played
Speaker 2: the audio on your show today.
Speaker 3: So I'm a little bit confused.
Speaker 2: I thought he kind of forced his way out, didn't
Speaker 2: he did? He did he not want to be there?
Speaker 2: Explain to me the Chikuk relationship with Calgary.
Speaker 8: This is one of those things where yes, he definitely
Speaker 8: was he forced his way out. There's a whole bunch
Speaker 8: of things that were Like I think a lot of
Speaker 8: people could point to maybe seasons earlier and why he
Speaker 8: wasn't extended then and talk about things like that. But
Speaker 8: that wasn't the case. So he ended up forcing his
Speaker 8: hand to leave town. The team has obviously been much
Speaker 8: worse for it, But I did think that there are
Speaker 8: still some people who enjoyed his time here in Canada.
Speaker 8: I think a lot of people look at Johnny Gudreau,
Speaker 8: who left a free agency to Columbus, as kind of
Speaker 8: maybe a worst case than Matthew could Chuck and yesterday
Speaker 8: to me, like Matthew was a guy who understands how
Speaker 8: to use the media. His dad played in the NHL.
Speaker 8: He's got a lot of charisma, and that to me
Speaker 8: was like a subtle shot at Edmonton. Well, also maybe
Speaker 8: trying to get back in the good books of Calgary
Speaker 8: Flames fans a little bit. So yeah, people in Calgary
Speaker 8: really loved that.
Speaker 2: What did you think of Connor McDavid winning the cons mice?
Speaker 8: Yeah, he was really good, Like he was the best
Speaker 8: player of the postseason. You don't break Wayne Gretzky's records
Speaker 8: and just kind of not be good doing that. So
Speaker 8: he was outstanding wire to wire. Obviously, he didn't have
Speaker 8: points in the last two games, and that's what a
Speaker 8: lot of people are going to look at and say, well,
Speaker 8: he gave the Cons smythe to a guy that okay,
Speaker 8: his team was down three nothing and then he got
Speaker 8: them back almost even. But he didn't really change much
Speaker 8: after that. So there there was definitely some people here
Speaker 8: in Calgary who were a little bit questionable about it.
Speaker 8: But I think the thing that made it tough for
Speaker 8: Florida was that they didn't necessarily have someone who kind
Speaker 8: of took that step above everybody else. On their team,
Speaker 8: like you could talk about Alexander Barkov for some games,
Speaker 8: you could have talked about Serge Bbrovski, you know, especially
Speaker 8: up until Game number three, but then he gets shelled
Speaker 8: for five and twenty five minutes of action and you
Speaker 8: can't really go on giving the con Smith to a
Speaker 8: guy who totally let the Oilers back into the series.
Speaker 3: So I was a little.
Speaker 8: Disappointed he didn't come out to get it. That was disappointing.
Speaker 8: You know, it's the first time since two thousand and
Speaker 8: three that someone has won the Con Smythe and not
Speaker 8: won the Stanley Cup at the same time. That was
Speaker 8: Jaya Shagear, who's a goaltender. It was in New Jersey.
Speaker 8: He played for the Ducks. He came out and he
Speaker 8: got the con Smith, even though he looked absolutely miserable
Speaker 8: doing it. So that was one thing that I did
Speaker 8: kind of wonder about with Connor. That was our other
Speaker 8: text topic today is how lonely is the con Smythe
Speaker 8: Trophy because I imagine he's still sitting in the middle
Speaker 8: of the rink in Florida.
Speaker 3: Maddy really appreciate the time. We'll have you on again
Speaker 3: when the Flames win the Cup. How about it, see
Speaker 3: you guys in like fifteen years. Cheers, Thank you, Maddie.
Speaker 2: Mattie Rose, co host of the Big Show with Russik
Speaker 2: and Rose on sports Net nine sixty in Calgary. I
Speaker 2: appreciate that. I also appreciate a healthy conversation. And I
Speaker 2: am starting with Seaton because I'm gonna make Seaton defend
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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of The Dan Patrick Show, Fun Show. Tomorrow
Speaker 2: will be a lot about the NBA.
Speaker 3: Draft because the first rounds tomorrow night very interesting. NBA Draft.
Speaker 2: By the way, I haven't even heard of most of
Speaker 2: the guys that are projected to be lottery picks. But
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that tomorrow. But I wanted to I
Speaker 2: was watching last night and I thought about this, and
Speaker 2: I thought about Seaton, and I want to be very
Speaker 2: clear about a couple things. Number One, I know they
Speaker 2: are very different sports. Number Two, I'm not looking to
Speaker 2: knock either sports. But I'm watching the Stanley Cup Final
Speaker 2: Game seven last night and it occurs to me, Okay,
Speaker 2: there's two major sports where you try to score goals
Speaker 2: into a net.
Speaker 3: Right, It's like football is not like any of the
Speaker 3: other ones. The NBA. I guess there's some similarities.
Speaker 2: That you're shooting a basket into a net, but it's different.
Speaker 2: You get two points or three points, and it's different. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Baseball is its own category. But there's some decent similarities
Speaker 2: between soccer and hockey in the sense that anybody could
Speaker 2: watch it for two minutes to understand what the goal is.
Speaker 2: The goal is those guys are trying to put the
Speaker 2: pucker the ball in that net.
Speaker 3: Those guys trying to do that.
Speaker 2: So I'm watching them thinking, Okay, there's a lot of similarities,
Speaker 2: but hockey's much faster, much more physical, and there are
Speaker 2: significantly more scoring opportunities in a typical like shots on
Speaker 2: goal for sure, scoring opportunities in a typical hockey game
Speaker 2: over a soccer game. Right, So I guess seton and
Speaker 2: maybe you won't even try, maybe you won't even feel
Speaker 2: that way. But I guess what would you say if
Speaker 2: someone was just getting into being a sports fan, they
Speaker 2: were just starting in sports, and they were going to
Speaker 2: pick a sport to watch, what would you say are
Speaker 2: the selling points for soccer over hockey? Like I just
Speaker 2: gave you what I feel like, are selling points for
Speaker 2: hockey over soccer? Speed, physicality, scoring, what's better about soccer
Speaker 2: than hockey in your mind?
Speaker 5: Well, I would say that I think hockey, and I've
Speaker 5: said this before, is probably the best blend of physicality
Speaker 5: and skill, you know, like the physical nature of say
Speaker 5: like football, where you're really hitting each other versus the
Speaker 5: technical ability of being able to skate and control the
Speaker 5: puck and shoot and all of that stuff. It's truly
Speaker 5: remarkable what hockey players are doing. I don't know that
Speaker 5: I could tell you. I know, I guess why I
Speaker 5: like soccer better. I mean, I just why do you
Speaker 5: like soccer? Well, I kind of I grew up playing
Speaker 5: a little bit, and I don't know, it's just a
Speaker 5: fun game. I just really like it. I don't I
Speaker 5: don't know that I could tell you why you should
Speaker 5: support soccer over hockey, because I think hockey is an
Speaker 5: awesome game. I just didn't grow up in an environment
Speaker 5: with it. I didn't grow up Nobody I knew played hockey.
Speaker 5: Nobody I knew was even a hockey fan, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. So to me, the part about soccer
Speaker 5: that could also translate over to hockey is that there's
Speaker 5: like a certain civic pride to it, for sure, right,
Speaker 5: So when.
Speaker 2: There's more of that, there's more of that in hockey
Speaker 2: in Canada, I would say than there is the United States, Right, Like,
Speaker 2: just like in soccer, there's more of that in basically
Speaker 2: every other country than there is North America.
Speaker 5: But they're right because they're they're trying to make soccer
Speaker 5: like the NFL here, and that's not really the design
Speaker 5: of the game. I mean. To me, just the fact
Speaker 5: that it's the most popular game in the world in
Speaker 5: any country that has promotion and relegation is enough to say, like, Wow,
Speaker 5: there's really something here as to why this sport is
Speaker 5: so great. Then that's that's clearly something. But to me,
Speaker 5: it has to do a lot with when you support
Speaker 5: your team from your town. Like I live in Hartford, Connecticut,
Speaker 5: so I support the Hartford team. Those are our boys
Speaker 5: going out and representing our town. This is our home,
Speaker 5: this is where we live, and those are our guys.
Speaker 5: And once you can kind of buy into that local mindset,
Speaker 5: to me that it's not really it's not because when
Speaker 5: you live in I don't know, Springfield, Massachusetts and you're
Speaker 5: supporting the Boston Red Sox, they're not in your town.
Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about like at the lower levels.
Speaker 5: No, I'm talking I'm talking about when you're a Manchester
Speaker 5: City fan, when you're a Barcelona fan, and all the
Speaker 5: way down to the lower levels. That's why say, like
Speaker 5: a thing like promotion and relegation is so important because
Speaker 5: you can go from the lower level to the top
Speaker 5: and support your same team all the way up to
Speaker 5: you can be at the very bottom and win your
Speaker 5: way year over year over year over year to then
Speaker 5: be the greatest team in the world.
Speaker 2: Well, I think anybody would agree that the relegation promotion
Speaker 2: thing is incredible, Like that is maybe the best thing
Speaker 2: in sports, and it's very It's kind of a shame
Speaker 2: that the American model can't really.
Speaker 3: Pull that off because that I love that about it.
Speaker 2: I guess my point is like if you went to
Speaker 2: people in some far off country that they've never heard
Speaker 2: of any sports, or if like Aliens came here and
Speaker 2: you showed them hockey and soccer, I guess, with no
Speaker 2: local ties, with no history to it, I guess I
Speaker 2: just feel like hockey has more going for it. PAULI,
Speaker 2: I can see what you're saying. I played soccer. I mean, see,
Speaker 2: just so you know. I was on the under eight,
Speaker 2: under ten, and under twelve eight teams. Why missing you soccer?
Speaker 4: I think I could be objective because I never played either,
Speaker 4: and I like both. Watching hockey to me is awesome
Speaker 4: it seems like somebody I would love to have played
Speaker 4: while as a kid if I had access. You have
Speaker 4: access to soccer if you have feet and ground. Feet
Speaker 4: and ground is really what you need to play soccer,
Speaker 4: and you could play it anywhere. Anytime. You drive around
Speaker 4: where we live and you'll see soccer matches anywhere on
Speaker 4: a patch that.
Speaker 3: They're right, so popular in South America and always other countries, right, like,
Speaker 3: all you need is something to.
Speaker 5: Balls the people's game. Yeah, I think they don't need anything.
Speaker 4: I think if you don't live in Minnesota or North
Speaker 4: Dakota or the northeast and access to ice time seems
Speaker 4: to me like very prohibitive of getting into the sport,
Speaker 4: cost of getting the sport for young people actually, as
Speaker 4: far as like tuning in and watching it, there's a
Speaker 4: lot of similarities. But I always think soccer, you know,
Speaker 4: people maybe don't respect it because it's not from America,
Speaker 4: but think of if hockey players had to go up
Speaker 4: and down the ice but use their feet to move
Speaker 4: the puck instead of there.
Speaker 2: Oh no, ipect I respect the heck out of soccer. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a fun sport and what those guys are some
Speaker 2: of the touches they have. It's like art soccer. I've
Speaker 2: heard soccer described as the beautiful game, right, and it is.
Speaker 2: There's there's passes. You know, It's one of the reasons
Speaker 2: why we love Caitlin Clark so much, some of her passing.
Speaker 2: I feel like you get that in soccer a decent amount.
Speaker 2: Or like when they have the ball hit to them
Speaker 2: really hard and they somehow put their foot up and
Speaker 2: like gently bring.
Speaker 3: It down right where they are.
Speaker 2: That is insane to me, you know that, But I
Speaker 2: guess it's just am I is it totally nuts for
Speaker 2: me to watch hockey last night and think I'm a
Speaker 2: little surprised it's not more popular. I'm like, what, what is?
Speaker 2: What does soccer have? It's better than hockey?
Speaker 3: Go see.
Speaker 5: But I don't know if soccer is more popular in
Speaker 5: the United States than hockey is right now anyway. So
Speaker 5: you're trying, you're basically trying to say, take a more
Speaker 5: less popular game here and can into people why it's
Speaker 5: more popular than a game that it's not more popular
Speaker 5: than you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: No, I just mean I'm talking like.
Speaker 5: Like why would you choose why do you choose the
Speaker 5: end of football instead of hockey when football is, and
Speaker 5: I mean disrespectfully, one of the dumbest games ever created
Speaker 5: in that it's impossible to explain, explain in one play
Speaker 5: everything that's happening on the field. I'll give you until
Speaker 5: the rest of this week to get through one play.
Speaker 2: Well, what's funny about that is I talk about this
Speaker 2: a lot. It's one reason why I'm so glad that
Speaker 2: the NFL is trying to expand. So I played soccer
Speaker 2: from age five or six till I was eleven or twelve.
Speaker 2: Really really liked it. I think it's a fun sport.
Speaker 2: And then I put a helmet and shoulder pads on
Speaker 2: and I knock somebody looked like Fritzy over, and I
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 3: This is unbelievable. This is the greatest thing I've ever
Speaker 3: done in my life.
Speaker 2: Like it took me five seconds to realize, at least
Speaker 2: for me and what I enjoy that football and the
Speaker 2: physical part of it, like way trumped whatever high I
Speaker 2: could get when I was playing soccer, of scoring a
Speaker 2: goal or like kicking the ball and having a good pass.
Speaker 2: It was immediately trumped by just knocking kids over and
Speaker 2: just thinking this is the greatest thing I've ever done,
Speaker 2: like this is still the best. It's still I'm forty
Speaker 2: five and it's the best feeling.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe second, but.
Speaker 2: It's a very very high on the feelings I can
Speaker 2: have as a human being.
Speaker 3: Paullie.
Speaker 4: A lot of people discuss what's the toughest thing to
Speaker 4: do in sports, and you know, being a goaltender or
Speaker 4: hitting a baseball hitting Okay, those are fair, but I
Speaker 4: almost think football doesn't get its due for you have
Speaker 4: to have a mentality to play high level football. You
Speaker 4: played high level football. I'm not talking just being a
Speaker 4: high school football, but to play high level where pain
Speaker 4: doesn't bother you and you enjoyed distributing pain and you
Speaker 4: really don't mind accepting pain. It's almost part of the
Speaker 4: like a badge where you don't complain.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: I think too you don't understand maybe what I'm talking
Speaker 4: about your condition to it.
Speaker 3: Right, But I also say, like it takes something. You
Speaker 3: have to have that in you.
Speaker 4: Correct. I think you're a bit the top. The top
Speaker 4: football players to me are people who don't mind getting
Speaker 4: hurt and deal with it casually and can hit other
Speaker 4: people hard.
Speaker 2: You have to love that part of it to really
Speaker 2: be loved, but that's okay. Some people do, some people don't.
Speaker 2: What I think people don't appreciate enough about American football
Speaker 2: NFL is like it's controlled aggression. You can't just go
Speaker 2: out there and try to not if you if I
Speaker 2: went out there as offensive lineman and we're just trying
Speaker 2: to kill guys, you would whiff a lot and they
Speaker 2: would sack your quarterback and you'd get fired. Like it's
Speaker 2: controlled aggression Seaton.
Speaker 5: And that's why I think that soccer when compared to support,
Speaker 5: to me, it's the better comparison is say, not hockey
Speaker 5: or football, but basketball, because it's more Basketball is a
Speaker 5: physical game too, but it's more about skill with the
Speaker 5: ball in some respects. Yeah, right, Whereas I think football,
Speaker 5: if you're tough enough in you're athletic enough, you could
Speaker 5: play well it.
Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, it's very, very different
Speaker 3: because it is a height, weight, speed, aggressiveness sport. If
Speaker 3: you didn't play.
Speaker 2: Soccer or basketball until your junior year in high school,
Speaker 2: you're in trouble.
Speaker 3: Like you you're not gonna be.
Speaker 5: Never gonna be a player, right, never gonna happen.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of examples of people that don't play
Speaker 2: football until their junior or high school, and they go
Speaker 2: out there and they're big, fast and aggressive and they
Speaker 2: just start dominating. It's a size, speed, aggressiveness, physicality for sure, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, I think is part of the beauty
Speaker 2: and why I tell people. People ask me all the time,
Speaker 2: would you let your son play football? When would you
Speaker 2: let him play? I'm like, I won't let him play
Speaker 2: the l eighth or ninth grade. He's not losing anything
Speaker 2: by waiting until then. He's not falling behind the other
Speaker 2: kids like you can in other sports.
Speaker 4: Paul, do you find who you played offensive line? But
Speaker 4: my guess is you probably played both ways when you're
Speaker 4: going course, Do you find when you get to the
Speaker 4: higher level of football college and pro that there's a
Speaker 4: difference in mentality of an offensive lineman and a defensive
Speaker 4: lineman personality, mentality or is that overblown? We're told that
Speaker 4: they're the defense is more aggressive in killers and the
Speaker 4: offense are a little more controlled.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, that's that's by the nature of the position.
Speaker 4: That's what we're talking.
Speaker 2: But I would tell you every NFL team, every offensive
Speaker 2: line in college in the NFL, they're looking for offensive
Speaker 2: linemen with a defensive lineman mindset, right. So my freshman
Speaker 2: year I started a couple of games the defensive end
Speaker 2: in college, and they moved me to offensive line because
Speaker 2: I had an incredible Chris vacation. I gained I think
Speaker 2: thirty two pounds.
Speaker 5: During Christmas Break Christmas break.
Speaker 3: So, dude, I've told you guys this before, probably at the.
Speaker 4: Christmas Break story.
Speaker 5: Are you serious you gained that much weight or are
Speaker 5: you being so?
Speaker 2: By the end of the season, I was like two
Speaker 2: fifty eight as a defensive end, maybe two fifty five.
Speaker 2: We went home for Christmas break, and Princeton, the Ivy League,
Speaker 2: has like an extended Christmas break. My friends and I
Speaker 2: get got a keg of yingling every night and we
Speaker 2: would go to the diner. And I just stinctly remember
Speaker 2: going to the diner at two am almost every night.
Speaker 2: I would get a ham and cheese omelet, wheat toast
Speaker 2: dry because I'm crazy healthy. Then I would get a
Speaker 2: stack of pancakes, a chocolate milkshake, and a side of
Speaker 2: scrapple at two am every day. When I went back,
Speaker 2: I left school at two fifty five seating. When I
Speaker 2: went back, I was two eighty five. Or holy crap,
Speaker 2: I gained twenty nine pounds and the coaches loved it.
Speaker 5: And no, no, no, no, I.
Speaker 3: Would have still been eighteen and was it. I would
Speaker 3: have been a month away from turning nineteen.
Speaker 5: And sorry, your plan was to gain weight.
Speaker 3: Or you just did no that, my coaches said.
Speaker 5: Your coaches were like, we need you to do this.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. No, they were stunned. Real they said, I
Speaker 2: came back in twenty four They said, what did you do?
Speaker 2: And I said, I don't know. I had an amazing time.
Speaker 3: But so I just like I didn't tell him.
Speaker 2: I went, I got a k yangling and went to
Speaker 2: the diner at West Eterning Diner at two am every morning.
Speaker 3: But they were like blown away.
Speaker 2: And then and then next thing, I know, like a
Speaker 2: week or two later, they come up to me and
Speaker 2: they're like, listen, you're gonna start either way. But we're
Speaker 2: either moving you to d tackle because you're not a
Speaker 2: defensive end anymore, or we're moving you to offensive line.
Speaker 2: And if you moved offensive line, because you're still pretty athletic,
Speaker 2: like we think you can really be special there. So
Speaker 2: I think this is a good lesson for all the
Speaker 2: kids out there. I would have had no chance of
Speaker 2: making the NFL as a defensive lineman, none whatsoever. But
Speaker 2: moving the offensive line changed my life. So if you're
Speaker 2: going through a tough time in life, kids, and you're listening,
Speaker 2: the key is a keg of yngling and scrapple and
Speaker 2: a milkshake at two am, it can change. Look, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be hosting this show right now if it wasn't
Speaker 2: for the pancakes.
Speaker 3: I'm wearing a pancake shirt.
Speaker 2: The pancakes, the ham and cheese omelet, the scrapple, the
Speaker 2: chocolate milkshake, and that glorious keg of yngling in the
Speaker 2: winter of seven.
Speaker 5: Eight two week stretch in ninety seven has essentially laid
Speaker 5: out the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: That is what prompted them to move on the offensive line. Buddy,
Speaker 2: moving off into the line prompted me to get in
Speaker 2: the NFL. Being an NFL player allow me to get
Speaker 2: in the media. Being the media allowed me to be
Speaker 2: hosting Dan Patrick today. This whole show, we have a
Speaker 2: new spontor. This whole show is presented to you by
Speaker 2: eating and drinking at a diner at two am. Oh Man,
Speaker 2: Once again, I know weren't we talking about soccer versus hockey.
Speaker 2: How did that even happen? Yeah, we were talking soccer
Speaker 2: versus hockey. All right, let's wrap things up with what
Speaker 2: we learned and maybe I can finally get to a call. Sorry,
Speaker 2: we've been having fun here. Forty one minutes past the
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Speaker 2: Wrapping up things here on a Tucker Tuesday edition of
Speaker 2: The Dan Patrick Show. Well, we get to this day
Speaker 2: in sports history, what we're watching tonight, what we learned,
Speaker 2: pull results, clean up some loose ends there? What are
Speaker 2: the poll results here?
Speaker 3: See? I don't remember what the poll questions were.
Speaker 5: I'm not even sure if we ever really even got
Speaker 5: the one today because we were so busy. However, we
Speaker 5: did put Would you display your con smythe trophy in
Speaker 5: a losing effort if you had it out at your house?
Speaker 5: Would you lay like, oh, yeah, look I did this
Speaker 5: the year that we lost.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say so. You know what's interesting about that?
Speaker 2: I think a high percentage of people will say no,
Speaker 2: But I think more of those people would actually display
Speaker 2: it if if they, if they, if you really won
Speaker 2: the con smythe I think when you're retired from the sport,
Speaker 2: you would absolutely have that in your man cave or whatever.
Speaker 3: You won the con.
Speaker 2: Smith Dude by fans respond to the poll, will no, never, No,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that, Seaton.
Speaker 5: So the results are fifty one forty nine, which is
Speaker 5: really good. Uh, fifty one percent would not display it.
Speaker 5: I wonder hockey fans in there which way they voted more.
Speaker 5: It's a good question, you know, because I wonder like
Speaker 5: the non hockey fan would be like no way or yes,
Speaker 5: or you know, how does a hockey fan feel about
Speaker 5: that that award? You know, you win that trophy? And
Speaker 5: then hell yeah I would put it out there because
Speaker 5: look at the names on that and what it means
Speaker 5: to the game, and.
Speaker 3: I would one hundred display it. You know, you don't.
Speaker 3: You can't always win, right like, you can't you want
Speaker 3: to win the championship. It's hard.
Speaker 2: As you get further removed, you realize that only one
Speaker 2: team wins it.
Speaker 3: Marv you say.
Speaker 2: Something, Yeah, I think you're probably more likely to display
Speaker 2: it if he wins the Stanley Cup down the Road.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure, Yeah, for sure. What if he wins
Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup down the Road but doesn't win the
Speaker 2: cons Mike that year he's got both and you put
Speaker 2: them next to each other in the house.
Speaker 5: Yes, tell you. You know, winning that in a losing
Speaker 5: year is not something to be ashamed of. It's not
Speaker 5: something to be like embarrassed of.
Speaker 3: Or it's actually crazy impressive.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hell y, I was the best I don't want
Speaker 5: to give.
Speaker 3: It to the guy from a losing team.
Speaker 5: You know that that that playoffs, I was the best player. Absolutely.
Speaker 5: I would put that right up front.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, absolutely, all right? What about you know what?
Speaker 3: Speaking of that?
Speaker 2: While we're on that, I'm going I'm going to Vicky,
Speaker 2: who's in Boca. She has literally been holding since before
Speaker 2: the show started. She came on yesterday. She loves the Panthers. Vicky,
Speaker 2: your patience is being rewarded. What do you got?
Speaker 3: Oh? No, oh, there she is, Vicky. Oh she gave
Speaker 3: up here.
Speaker 2: I'm here. I was so devastated for for so many reasons.
Speaker 3: What do you got, Vicky?
Speaker 6: All right, listen, you guys, all of you, every single
Speaker 6: one of you, chat row I'm telling you right now.
Speaker 6: It feels good to win. And you know, but you
Speaker 6: asked me a question yesterday. You know, sell it. We
Speaker 6: get to go to a nice parade and guess what
Speaker 6: I get to.
Speaker 3: Choose which bikini, which top.
Speaker 6: I get to wear on Sunday at eleven on A
Speaker 6: one A for the parade. So that's my selling point.
Speaker 3: A one A Beachfront Avenue.
Speaker 6: Yes, that's the parade on Sunday that they're going to
Speaker 6: have right on A one A in Fort Lauderdale.
Speaker 3: Congratulations, Vicky, I am so so happy for you.
Speaker 4: Have a great parade, got another championship brade in Fort Lauderdale.
Speaker 4: They just every year down there.
Speaker 2: How crazy is it that I had not heard that
Speaker 2: song in like twenty years. Girls were hot, wearing less
Speaker 2: than bikinis, ice man lovers, Rocket, Lamborghini.
Speaker 3: Zellous because I'm out getting mine.
Speaker 5: Shaye with the gauge of Vanilla, with the nine Yeah,
Speaker 5: not mistaken to the extreme, round the mic, Yeah, led
Speaker 5: up the stage.
Speaker 2: See though, Fritz and Pauli, you guys are in your fifties. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you don't remember every word of that, like.
Speaker 4: Seaton idea, Why do you remember.
Speaker 2: Stuff from like fifth through ninth grade before the show.
Speaker 2: Before the show, Fritzi was talking about the entire Royals
Speaker 2: pitching staff and the infield for the Phillies in like
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eighty. What is it about us as human
Speaker 2: beings that I can sing Ice, Ice Baby, and I
Speaker 2: know the lyrics to that song, but nothing else.
Speaker 3: That's kind of weird.
Speaker 5: We didn't even see him doing the dance in the
Speaker 5: video and everything, I know exactly the start of Jack everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, what do we have this day in
Speaker 4: sports history? Paul, I got a couple for you. Nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty five, ABC's Monday Night Football had a new lineup.
Speaker 4: The trio is Frank Gifford, Joe Namath and OJ Simpson.
Speaker 4: That lasted for a couple of years.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty five, the New York Yankees officials enacted a
Speaker 4: new rule that mandate mandated the team's bat boys had
Speaker 4: to wear protective helmets during the games. I guess they
Speaker 4: didn't have to before that. They were sitting there on
Speaker 4: the sidelines just taking all five balls off the nugget.
Speaker 4: Two thousand and three, Todd McFarland bought Barry Bond's seventy
Speaker 4: third home run ball at auction four. I want to
Speaker 4: guess how.
Speaker 3: Much two point two million dollars.
Speaker 4: Five hundred and seventeen grand.
Speaker 3: Oh, good deal, that's it all right? What do we
Speaker 3: learned today, Fritzi?
Speaker 7: I learned that you went from two hundred and fifty
Speaker 7: five LB's as a defensive end of college at age
Speaker 7: eighteen eight and drank away while I was the night
Speaker 7: to wing it a whopping two eighty four.
Speaker 3: That is impressive, Seaton.
Speaker 5: I learned that steeplechase can be done by humans and
Speaker 5: or humans on horses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a bunch. I got a bunch of
Speaker 2: tweets about that. I didn't know about the horse part
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: Marvin. The Hershey Bears won the Colder Cup.
Speaker 2: Yes, people, I got like ten people say you shout
Speaker 2: out their bears.
Speaker 3: I did shout the Bears. You gotta listener and watch
Speaker 3: the whole show.
Speaker 5: Seton another quick Ahl mentioned the coach last night from Edmonton,
Speaker 5: former Hertford Wolfpack coach. Another Ahl, Polly, what'd you learn?
Speaker 4: Why am missing football? Never forget nice, nice, Fritzy.
Speaker 3: What did I learn?
Speaker 7: Maybe hit for the younger generations, but we don't need
Speaker 7: to drop f bombs at an introductory press conference.
Speaker 3: Do we I don't think so.
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