1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: tech stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hi, everybody, 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. My name is Chris Polette. I'm 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: an editor here at How Stuff Works, and sitting in 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: the chair next to me as always his senior writer 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. I predict this will be our second best 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: podcast of all time. I had a feeling you were 9 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: going to say that. Yeah, so this is our obligatory 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: predictions for two thousand nine nine nine. Yeah, and uh, 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: we have a whole list of things. I feel compelled 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: to point out that these may or may not come true, 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: and some of them might be a little far fetched. 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: I think what we'll have to do is, at the 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: end of two thousand nine, listen to this podcast and 16 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: see how many of them we got absolutely completely wrong. 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: Deal awesome? All right? You want to start? You want 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: me to you go ahead? All right? I want to 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: start with Apple. Okay. I think we're gonna find out 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: who Steve jobs is successor is in two thousand nine. 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Maybe he won't leave the company, but I think we're 22 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: gonna start hearing names of people who might be poised 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: to take over the reins if for some reason, as 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: many predict, he will be stepping down. Interesting, I can 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: see Jobs resisting that as much as he recently can. Yeah, 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: I don't. I can't imagine why he would say that. 27 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: So my Apple prediction is that we are going to 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: see I think two thousand nine will be possibly the 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: swan song for the Mac desktop computer. Really yeah. Does 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: that include the iMac or the power Mac only? I 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: think um, I think it will include both. Okay, this 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: is that's going out on a big limb there, I know, 33 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: but but I just see that. You know, McIntosh desktop 34 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: sales have been going kind of low for the last 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: couple of quarters. Uh, in comparison to what they used 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: to be. They're they're not growing as fast as they 37 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: think they should. And I think with the current economic climate, 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: we are looking at consumers who are going to be 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: concerned more about getting the most for their money. And uh. 40 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: And Mac computers are beautiful. They work really, really well, 41 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: but they're also really expensive, especially when you compare it 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: to a machine of similar power. Maybe not the best, 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're not as capable, but they're just 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: as powerful. On the PC side for significantly less money. 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: So do you think we'll see an Apple netbook this year? Oh? 46 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean you think people will 47 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: take if you take jobs At his word, he says 48 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: that there's no way they would build a machine for 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: under five dollars. That wasn't crap. That was where his words, 50 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: not mine. So I would be very surprised if we 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: saw something besides the MacBook Air hit the netbooks range. 52 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: I have another little Apple projection. I think we're gonna 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: start hearing about the next gadget, uh, the iPod, the iPhone, 54 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: and I think they're I think we're gonna start hearing 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: if if we don't even see it, I think people 56 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: are gonna start conjecturing. And you know how we knew 57 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: the iPhone was coming out before it came out, sort 58 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: of like we did with a Google Phone. Yeah, I 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: think we're gonna hear. We'll start hearing about the thing, 60 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: whatever it is, it'll be rumored if nothing else going 61 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: with the car I car. Yeah, Well, actually they were 62 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: going to partner with v W from and it happened. 63 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: I love that article that we have on that. It's 64 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: still a good article. Okay, so, uh, let's move over 65 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: to Microsoft. Then, yeah, I'm not a prediction for Windows seven. 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: I grouped mind by company too, and then I have 67 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: some general stuff. Most of mine's general, so I but 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: for for Windows seven, my prediction, and this is so easy, 69 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: it's it's a GIMMI but that Windows seven is gonna 70 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: have an uphill battle because it has to erase all 71 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: the bad blood that was generated by Windows Vista. And 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: we should point out that a lot of that bad 73 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: blood is probably, you know, completely unnecessary because although Windows 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: Vista did have some problems early on, Microsoft addressed a 75 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: lot of those issues and fixed all of those problems. 76 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: And people who use Windows Vista without knowing what it 77 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: is is when they're using the new patched version seem 78 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: to think it's a great system and it's really good 79 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: for things like you're a media center, that kind of thing, 80 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: and things where you have eighty billion gigabytes and memory. Okay, yeah, 81 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: you have to have a powerful machine, granted, but that's 82 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: not what I'm getting at. Ok. So, I just think 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: that Windows seven is going to uh have a rough 84 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: time for the first few months that it's out. But 85 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: if enterprises are eager to to upgrade because now they 86 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: they're going to be running on a Windows system that's, 87 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, ten years old. Then I think that's where're 88 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: going to see Windows seven flourish. Right as soon as 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: businesses say okay, we can trust this operating system and 90 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: they move to it, they're they're sitting pretty I have 91 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: two Microsoft One of them is a guinea and one 92 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: is a little bit more far fetched. One the gimme 93 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: is that Web Office is going to launch the web 94 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: version of Office. It's totally it's going to be out 95 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: there and it's gonna have all the functionality and it's 96 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: gonna go a head to head with Google Docs. Um. 97 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: The other is this is my actual Uh, I'm gonna 98 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: put a date in here. We're not a date, but 99 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: I think at E three you're gonna hear about the Xbox. Okay, 100 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: so the next generation of Xbox generation, whether it's the 101 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: seven twenty or not. Well, they're ahead of the other 102 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: two their head of of Nintendo, in their head of 103 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: Sony as far as the Xbox release date, because they 104 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: pushed the three sixty out the door pretty quickly after 105 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: the original Xbox which released. So I think they're going 106 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: to try to stay ahead of the game, and go 107 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: ahead and and announce the seven twenty and give you 108 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: a release date and may even be on the shelves 109 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: by next Christmas. And you think so, Yeah, I guess 110 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: the typical console tends to be out between three and 111 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: five years before the next generation, so it's about time, 112 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: you're right, Okay, I can not that far fetch, but 113 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna hear about it at E three. Okay, yeah, 114 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: I can. I can dig that, okay. Um, how about 115 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: a Google rumor? Okay, okay. So I think that by 116 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: the end of two thousand nine we will finally see 117 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: a full fledged Google operate system. Yeah, web based operating system, 118 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: it's almost there now. Chrome and the Google Docs suite 119 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: together worked pretty well um as as a very kind 120 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: of limited operating system. But I think we're gonna see 121 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: the real thing before the end of two thousand nine. 122 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I mean they've already got a head start. 123 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: They've got Android, right. I think they're going to see 124 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: a huge boost and Android too, because there's going to 125 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: be a bunch of new Android phones coming out in 126 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: two thousand nine, and I think that will encourage developers 127 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: to develop more. Um. Programs for Android, and so by 128 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: the end of two thousand nine, Android is going to 129 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: be a major player as well. All right, then, so 130 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: there you go. I was going to leave the googling 131 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: to you, since you're Mr Google. Yeah, but I was. 132 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: I was going to touch on the game systems again. Um, Nintendo, 133 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: I think it's going to have a quiet year. I 134 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: don't think you're going to see a new system from them. 135 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: I think you might see a new peripheral or two, 136 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: because I think they're figuring out that that's a good 137 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: way to to keep the system going and add more 138 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: function any to it and sell more We's considering they're 139 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: going nuts doing that now. But I think I think 140 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: they're going to concentrate on rolling out more games, and 141 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna hear anything about the next 142 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: the WE two, whatever it is. I think it's going 143 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: to be quiet and stick with games and perfectly. Well, yeah, 144 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: they're still out. They're still outselling the other consoles by 145 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: a significant margin. And uh um, it's interesting because I 146 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: don't I think a lot of people who buy We's 147 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: kind of get tired of the games that they have 148 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: fairly quickly, and so we Nintendo has to has to 149 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: try and figure out a way to re energize that 150 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: customer base and keep them interested. I think that we 151 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: Fit was a perfect thing for them to come out with, 152 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: because that really did get people excited about the we 153 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: Even people who had bought it thought it was really cool, 154 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: played it for a couple of months and then just 155 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: sort of set the side and didn't think about it again. 156 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: Do we Fit managed to bring them back into it? Um? 157 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree with you. I think the peripherals 158 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: is probably the way they're gonna go. Well. Looking at 159 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: Sony in the play station to the PlayStation two has 160 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: extended its life considerably, um, you know, for selling more 161 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: than any console ever. I think I think that's safe 162 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: to say without researching that that they pretty much have. 163 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: They've certainly been around forever. Speaking of Sony, I think 164 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: that it that they're going to start working on the 165 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: PS four because sale sales have the PS three have 166 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: stagnated so much that the next PlayStation. I think they're 167 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: gonna end of life the PlayStation three very early, and 168 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: you may start hearing about the PlayStation four before the 169 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: end of the year. Here's the thing about the PlayStation three, 170 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: I think Um, I think that's death is premature. I 171 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: agree with you that it's not doing as well as 172 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: it needs to do. I think that's mainly because of 173 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: the price. It's it's the highest priced console on the 174 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: market right now, right and they, you know, Sony before 175 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: Christmas two thousand and eight, they said they were not 176 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: going to cut the price of the the PS three. Um, 177 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: they weren't gonna bring it down for the holidays, and 178 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: I think that really really hurt them. I'm not sure 179 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: that comeing out with a new console will help, because 180 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the fact that the PS three. 181 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: I think the PS three is as great specs and 182 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: it's perfect for the time that's in right now, it's 183 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: just at the wrong price. But that that does bring 184 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: me to something else that's somewhere though. Okay, I was 185 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: going to say that I don't know if the developers 186 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: are going to stay on board three if they're not 187 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: selling machine. Well, I can yeah, I can definitely see 188 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: that because there's no money in it for them to 189 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: do that. Why why developed for that when they can 190 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: just concentrate on just say the Xbox so um Blu 191 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: Ray Blue Ray. Oh this is the make or break 192 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: year for Blu Ray. I say, um, the prices for 193 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: Blu Ray machines dropped dramatically for the holiday season in 194 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, and uh, and so if we 195 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: see people adopt it and then start buying movies, then 196 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: sure Blu ray will stick around. I don't think it's 197 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: gonna happen. I just don't think that the improvement between 198 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: regular DVDs and Blue Ray DVDs is enough for most 199 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: people to switch and adopt the Blu Ray technology and 200 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: just concentrate on Blu Ray movies. I think it's it's 201 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful format, but most people just don't see 202 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: the value in that kind of incremental important in uh, 203 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, improvement in performance. So I think two thousand 204 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: nine maybe the death of Blu Ray, maybe a long, 205 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: slow death. I don't think it's gonna be like the 206 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: h D d v D where it was like, oh 207 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: I'm not feeling so good. I'm not feeling so good. 208 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm dead. That was as HD d D 209 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: for early eight. Sorry Toshiba. Yeah, um, okay, I was 210 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: trying to I was looking at my notes and trying 211 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: to figure where I want to go next. Um, I'll 212 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: just keep going chronologically and where I wrote it down. Um, 213 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: I think the Linux community is gonna start taking shots 214 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: at Microsoft. I think they're working right now. Actually I 215 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: know they're working right now on getting people to make 216 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: prettier software for Linux. I think you're gonna see Lennox 217 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: starting to make in roads. I think with cloud computing 218 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: and some of the and and the success of things 219 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: like open Office. Um, there are basically you can download 220 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: a copy of well various different flavors of Lenox and 221 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: install it on your computer and have a productivity suite 222 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: and an instant messaging client. Uh, you can use gemp 223 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: to do your your images. You know what. It may 224 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: be time for Lennox to start making a move as 225 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: a community want the different developers now, I mean it's 226 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: a confederation of people, so who knows, But especially when 227 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: you made like Microsoft is moving more and more towards 228 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: the cloud. That's cloud computing. By the way, that's one 229 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: of my other predictions will be a household term before 230 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: the two thousand nine is over right now. It's something 231 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: that we in the tech industry talk about a lot, 232 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: but you wouldn't necessarily hear anyone like the average Joe 233 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: who's not in the tech industry wouldn't normally know that 234 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: that term. I think that will change by the end 235 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: of two thousand nine. Um, so you beat me to that. 236 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: I was page two of my n Yeah, and Microsoft 237 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: is really moving towards that that model, I think you know, 238 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: but there there is still a value to having a 239 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: machine that can run things locally, and some people recognize 240 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: that and some people kind of dismiss it. Um, And 241 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: I think the Linux community community can totally jump on 242 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: that and you'll see things like again like the Android platform, 243 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: which is based off of the Linux kernel. When you 244 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: see the success of these kind of platforms, that also 245 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: lends credence to Linux being a an operating system that's 246 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: worthy of competition with these other established companies. Yea yea. Um. 247 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: That's actually a good segue to something else that I 248 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: had on my list, which was I think two thousand 249 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: nine is going to be the year in the netbook 250 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: in general, and m I'm contrary to your thinking on 251 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: Apple because I think that it may it may actually 252 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: go the other way. Now it's been going people have 253 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: been buying more notebooks than desktops for a while. A 254 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: couple of years, I guess, and netbooks are certainly super popular. 255 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: But I think people are gonna get tired of lugging 256 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: their laptops around and they're gonna say, you know what, 257 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: this is all in the cloud. I can get a 258 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: nice desktop at home and have one at work and 259 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 1: not even mess with it. I don't even want to 260 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: carry my briefcase or my backpack with me. I'm just 261 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: gonna have this on the cloud. Interesting, So I think 262 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: that it it may actually go the other way, and 263 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: that would be totally going out on the lamb. And 264 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna you're gonna enjoy picking me apart of because 265 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: laptops are going to be up. I have written down 266 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: right here. Mobile devices will take over the computer world. 267 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: That's the thing. You've got the iPhone, You've got hey, 268 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: the iPod Touch, You've got other smartphones, you've got netbooks. 269 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Why carry around a full size laptop computer? Sure? Okay, 270 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: no desktops at smaller device. Yeah, I'm I just here's 271 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: the thing. I think that for most people's computing needs, 272 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: the smartphones, the netbooks, the cloud, computing takes care of 273 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: almost everything they need. Yeah, for the average consumer, the 274 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: people that are that this obviously does not apply to 275 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: our people like power gamers who need a powerful machine 276 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: on this stuff. Um, those are the people. So I 277 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: think desktop computers will go to those niche markets, So 278 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: the gamers and the enterprise people who will still need 279 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: a desktop machine or you know a lot of places 280 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: still use desktop machines. We don't. We use laptops for 281 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: most of our machines. We do have a few desktops 282 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: in the house. Stuff works universe. Um, but yeah, I 283 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: would be shocked if the desktop computer has as strong 284 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: a foothold in the consumer market as you seem to suggest. 285 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: So at the end of the year, we'll listen to 286 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: this and find out who's right, because that's a good, 287 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: good one. We we we have two different takes on 288 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: this well, and and that's part of the fun of 289 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: doing this podcast is we're playing around with ideas that 290 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: might happen. So we'll see, we'll see what happens. So, um, 291 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: you got one, Yeah, okay, Facebook will put the finishing 292 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: move on my Space, the tombstone pile driver, the atomic 293 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: leg drop, whatever you wanna call it. I think, uh, 294 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: I think my space is busy shoveling the dirt in 295 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: around itself now, so my Facebook will really just have 296 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: to show up and put the tombstone. And I think 297 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: one of the things that's really going to to uh 298 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: contribute to this as Facebook Connect, yeah, which of course 299 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: is their open I d U kind of approach where 300 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: you can use the Facebook profile information you have to 301 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: log into other services, which automatically ports the information into 302 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: those services so you don't have to create a new profile. Um. 303 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: More and more sites are gonna start using this sort 304 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: of stuff, and I think a lot of them are 305 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: going to look at Facebook as being the preferable vendor 306 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: because you've got, like the Google has its open source 307 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: I d and that's a very powerful name as well. 308 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: But you look at Facebook's user base and they have 309 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: hundreds of you know, like a hundred million people using 310 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: it on a regular basis, not just users, but people 311 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: who go there sometimes multiple times a day. Uh, that's 312 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: a big user base to to grab to get your 313 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: people to you know, let's let's use that that way 314 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: that it gives them the incident to make a profile 315 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: on our page and we've got them. In a related note, Yeah, 316 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think Twitter is going to either 317 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: go down or get really perilously close to it unless 318 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: they come up with some kind of business model. They 319 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: need to partner with somebody that they need a business model. 320 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: Come on, they don't need a business model. Well, tell 321 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: me how they're getting income in this economy, and maybe 322 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: you can convince me venture capital, which I have predicted 323 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: will dry up in two thousand nine. Um okay, I 324 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: see your point. I hope that Twitter finds a business 325 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: model because I've become increasingly reliant upon it. So but 326 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: now I can I can see where you're going there. 327 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't like that story. I don't either. Let's get it. 328 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: Let's get us something else that's better. Well, I've got 329 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of little ideas we don't have 330 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: to get into in great detail. I think you're gonna 331 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: see um Echo Star finally build since they acquired Sling Media, 332 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna start seeing integrated machines that have 333 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: the Sling technology built in. And I think you're gonna 334 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: see place shifting become more prevalent. I also think you're 335 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: gonna see ti Vo either get acquired or go under, 336 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: because they're at a point now where you know, I mean, 337 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: they're fighting Dish and a lot of other people off 338 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: with lawsuits for infringement of of technology. But I don't know. 339 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: I think they're at the point and they're too good 340 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: to go under because the the operating system on that 341 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: machine is amazing. UM. So I'm just saying, alright, I've 342 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: got the last mile problem. It's gonna come to a head, 343 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: all right, because we've got more and more people going online, 344 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: getting the broadband connections to the internet, uh, and they 345 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: expect to have that lightning fast service. And if enough 346 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: people connect to that last mile, the last mile being 347 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: the space between the backbone of the Internet and your house. Essentially, 348 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: if enough people are clogging up those tubes to use 349 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: a serially inappropriate phrase, um, then the slower your service 350 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: is going to be. And as customers get more and 351 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: more savvy of this, they're going to demand their I 352 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: s p s upgrade the system and address this last 353 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: mile problem, especially as you see companies embrace the Internet 354 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: as a way of distributing media even more than they 355 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: already have. As that continues to increase and people begin 356 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: to consume more and more of their media through the Internet, 357 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: they're going to need that problem fixed or there will 358 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: be hell to pay I had a feeling you're going 359 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: to say that, Yeah, it was a prediction. Um, okay. 360 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: I a long time ago we bought a really cheap 361 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: TV by this UH company called Samsung, and I thought, 362 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, for the longest time that they were a 363 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: lobe and player. Well they reinvented themselves to take on 364 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: Sony and another company, gold Star came. I don't know LG. 365 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: So I have a prediction. Is who that the next 366 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: company is going to be. I think it's gonna be 367 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: a SUS Yes, yeah, Well see the thing is they 368 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: have an aries smart fountain that they just introduced not 369 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: too long ago, so they're not just producing netbooks. And 370 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: that's the way that these other guys, you know, they 371 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: worked up. They at the low end electronics and then 372 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: they built themselves up and you never know who's that. Yeah, 373 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: and there's certainly the Chinese electronics manufacturers in general. I 374 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: think we're going to see a lot more of Well 375 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: I have I have only one more? Okay, why okay, yeah, 376 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: so here's my last one. Okay, it's also a gimme. Yeah. 377 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: Green technology will be huge. As a matter of fact, 378 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: a SUS has some very green technologies. They have some 379 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: I think grass laptops. Yeah, so you know, well, and 380 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: it's just becomes it's become the word your really, I mean, 381 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: the whole still have to do it now because it's 382 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's not just an environmental it's also economical 383 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: and marketing and marketing. Yeah, they're all these different reasons 384 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: why people are embracing the whole green movement. Uh. And 385 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: it's it's it started off as kind of a niche thing. 386 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: You know, you'd be like, oh, those hippies with the 387 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: green movement. Well, no, it's no I'm one of those hippies. Now. Yeah, 388 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be even bigger, I think in two 389 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: thousand nine, and I think we're gonna probably see several 390 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: scandals as well, or at least interesting stories about companies 391 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: that are claiming to be really green. But if you 392 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: dig a little deeper, you'll see that maybe those claims 393 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: are not all accurate. They're greenwashing. Yeah you might say, yeah, 394 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: all right, well I had a few, but they can 395 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: all be shortish. Um. I think that HDTV prices have 396 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: hit their peak. I think they're gonna start stagnating in 397 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: a big way and maybe even come down. Since prices 398 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: have been deflating anyway. Um, I think we're gonna hear 399 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: something serious from Amazon on the kindle too, but not 400 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: from serious. Yeah, no, it can too. Okay, that makes sense. Um, 401 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: I think best Buy is gonna go in chapter eleven, 402 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: Oh because I think best by You think you think 403 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: that this brick and mortar is gonna go? Yeah? I think, well, 404 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: I think they're they're hurting. I think it's possible that 405 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: both Circuit City and Best Buy may survive. But the 406 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: only way they're going to do it is by you know, 407 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: hauling themselves out of the mud. Uh. I mean Radio 408 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 1: Shack preceded the two of them. Um, and they may 409 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: have to close a bunch of stores, you know, comp 410 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: us a. Uh So it's it's entirely possible. You know, 411 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: best Buy is not the soul company to be unaffected. 412 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: I think they may also drop into chapter eleven. Um, 413 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: I think y'all who's gonna gonna stay independent? Whereas I 414 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: think that y'all who will either be bought or will collapse. 415 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of collapse, I think A O L may completely 416 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: go away. I mean you you just may hear them disappear. 417 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: You know, they'll be there's their services and things may 418 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: still carry the name. But I think it's going to 419 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: be basically it's funny because they were they absorbed another company, 420 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: a giant old media company, and that's the part that's 421 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: actually still surviving to some extent. Speaking of old media, 422 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: I think more books and or magazines and newspapers are 423 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: going to go only like the Christian Science Monitor, PC Magazine, 424 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: US News and World War Poort. They all did that 425 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. I think you're going to 426 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: see a lot more of those in two thousand nine, 427 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: especially since these these companies are staying afloat. You know, 428 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: they're they're still surviving, they're still doing good work. Um, 429 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: they're sort of paving the way. Actually, I think DRM 430 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: may go start. People are going to start saying, you 431 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: know what, this DRM thing is just not working for us. Yeah, 432 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: but I mean that's one of those rumors that comes 433 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: around and then nothing happens. I'm starting a new one, yeah, 434 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: because because just recently there was one about iTunes getting 435 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: rid of all DRM and that didn't pan out. Since 436 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: I am a recent purchaser of the game Spore, which 437 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: on the previous podcast I said may never come out. 438 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: They they have had some DRM issues with secure UM, 439 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: and they are doing what iTunes does where you can 440 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: decommission a computer if you need to to open up 441 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: a license spot. I think that the secure ONM thing 442 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: is a big headache for e A. I think uh 443 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: iTunes and Apple they've had problems with dr M. I 444 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: think it's going to be one of those things we're 445 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: gonna say, you know what, We're going to get more 446 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: customers by not encoding this stuff. Sure, UM and I 447 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: think trade shows like c S, I think you're gonna 448 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: start seeing huge declines and then amount of traffic two 449 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: shows like like that. I'll let you know when I 450 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: get back. All right, Yeah, if it's a waste land 451 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: tumbleweeds across the show fuel a lot easier to get 452 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: across the floor that it would be. Maybe I'll be 453 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: able to keep Alton on my toes this time. There 454 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: you go. I'm tapped. I don't have any more good 455 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: because I'm done too. Okay, all right, Well that was 456 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: an interesting discussion. We will see in a year's time 457 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: how accurate we were, how close to the truth, and 458 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: if we were way off, then we'll know better when 459 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: we're doing our predictions. For two I guess that's true. 460 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: We'll still have to come up with some some wild 461 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: and crazy yeah, because it's no fun exactly. The economy 462 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: will be bad, yeah, so we'll avoid doing that. 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