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Speaker 5: The fjeld All right, Henrywind for a minute. Going into
Speaker 5: this draft, how did most of the analysts sum up
Speaker 5: this year's class? Starters not stars? Was a popular refrain.
Speaker 5: Don't tell the Arizona Cardinals they didn't draft a couple
Speaker 5: of potential stars at number sixteen, at number forty seven,
Speaker 5: and maybe this is a hot take, but maybe a
Speaker 5: couple of potential starters in round four, in round six,
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, PAULI, how are you doing right now?
Speaker 1: Can I tell you? I am jacked up? Thanks for asking, Paul.
Speaker 1: I am jacked up right now because of the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals picks, because of the draft, and because I think
Speaker 1: they're going to be much better this year than a
Speaker 1: lot of people think.
Speaker 5: Well, if we don't have time for the greetings and
Speaker 5: the salutations, Okay, it's our favorite time of year. Our
Speaker 5: favorite hashtag is let the Rooks cook. And in three
Speaker 5: drafts now Chef Monty has twenty eight picks in three years,
Speaker 5: and right now every one of them is still on
Speaker 5: the roster. And before we get into the first round
Speaker 5: pick and beyond, before we hear from Dave Sears, I
Speaker 5: want to ask you just the competition level, what is
Speaker 5: that going to do? For Cardinals camp. Look at the
Speaker 5: depth chart. Look at how much deeper it is. Because
Speaker 5: if there is one way to motivate in the NFL
Speaker 5: and you played ten years, you tell me it's job security.
Speaker 5: And there're gonna be some really good dudes who don't
Speaker 5: end up on the final fifty three this year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Pauli, there's no doubt about it. You know,
Speaker 1: once again, one's a point, two's a trend, three's a pattern.
Speaker 1: You look at the last two drafts from the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals that Manti ausin Fort and the staff of the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals have picked. One's a point, two's a trend.
Speaker 1: Three's a pattern. Man. There are fourteen guys on this
Speaker 1: roster that are only two years into the league that
Speaker 1: are either starters for the Arizona Cardinals or in a
Speaker 1: heavy rotation getting reps on a game day. Because of that,
Speaker 1: paul it's amazing. If the Arizona Cardinals nailed Draft number
Speaker 1: three the way that I think they have, it's going
Speaker 1: to be a pattern now for the Arizona Cardinals. And
Speaker 1: because of that draft that happened three years ago. Because
Speaker 1: of that, Pauli, and now the draft that happened last year,
Speaker 1: and then this year's draft. You put those three together,
Speaker 1: the competition level for the Arizona Cardinals in all three phases, offensively, defensively,
Speaker 1: and in transition has skyrocketed. To your point, Paul, and.
Speaker 5: I don't know if this is a point or a
Speaker 5: pattern or a trend or whatever you call it. We'll
Speaker 5: put in the fifteen drafts before monti ascin fort the
Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals in the first two rounds drafted a total
Speaker 5: of two defensive linemen and two defensive linemen. That's over
Speaker 5: fifteen drafts in the first two rounds. We're talking DJ Jumpries,
Speaker 5: Johnathan Cooper, We're talking Robert KIMDCI, Dan Williams. They have
Speaker 5: already taken three three first round offensive or defensive lineman
Speaker 5: through three drafts, including most recently Walter Nolan at number sixteen.
Speaker 5: And here's MANIASA. Ford on what separated Walt from the
Speaker 5: rest of the pack.
Speaker 6: Disruption And you know, I think you know, we've talked
Speaker 6: about it a lot. You know, we wanted to get
Speaker 6: more have a more disruptive defensive unit. We think we've
Speaker 6: added players that can help us do that. And again,
Speaker 6: like when we find a players that can affect the
Speaker 6: middle of the pocket. It puts a lot of stress
Speaker 6: on the offense. And so Walter is another guy that
Speaker 6: we think can do that, can help us do that,
Speaker 6: and we're really excited to add him to our team.
Speaker 5: Doesn't even turn twenty two until October. Walter Nolan first
Speaker 5: Team All American, number one high school recruit. What else
Speaker 5: stands about out about the ole Miss All American?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, for me, once again, the first question
Speaker 1: I have Paul, he is where you're gonna play him?
Speaker 1: Where you're gonna play Walter Nolan right now? Just like
Speaker 1: Darius Robinson. Darius Robinson, we were talking about this last year.
Speaker 1: He could play anywhere across the front. You could literally
Speaker 1: line him up on the center, or you could have
Speaker 1: him stand out in a wide nine. You could literally
Speaker 1: have him do that, and I think that he would
Speaker 1: be able to hold up, especially based on the down
Speaker 1: and distance. I think Walter Nolan is in the exact
Speaker 1: same category as Darius Robinson. I think he's a little
Speaker 1: quicker on that first step. I think he's got an
Speaker 1: excellent first step, very explosive. Yet at the same time,
Speaker 1: where Walter Nolan is going to play and where Darius
Speaker 1: Robinson is going to play. That's going to be interesting
Speaker 1: because they could be anywhere across the front.
Speaker 5: Paul, you know what, note to self. We're gonna ask
Speaker 5: Dave Sears about that coming up the assistant GM right now,
Speaker 5: let's hear from Adrian Wilson, Cardinals cover too. Yes, the
Speaker 5: former Cardinals legend who has spent the last decade in
Speaker 5: an NFL front office. And here was his comp for
Speaker 5: Walter Nolan.
Speaker 7: It reminds me so much a docket. You know, Darnelle
Speaker 7: was an undersized three technique. You know, he was two
Speaker 7: ninety two ninety five, you know, at best. So you know,
Speaker 7: having a guy that was quick, that could penetrate, that
Speaker 7: can affect the interior of the pocket like it just
Speaker 7: helps your outside rushers out so much like you're their
Speaker 7: best friend because you're able to get penetration from the
Speaker 7: inside to get that quarterback off the spot.
Speaker 5: And Doc was nasty.
Speaker 7: He was real nasty.
Speaker 5: And what's interesting is and we had a chance to
Speaker 5: talk to Walter Nolan one on one. He's a soft spoken,
Speaker 5: quiet guy, but he also admits he flips the switch
Speaker 5: on game day. He is a really hyper competitive dude.
Speaker 5: On game day and Wolf, you know, we sort of
Speaker 5: made the joke who won the NFL Draft. The media
Speaker 5: always likes to pick teams. We picked a person. Nick
Speaker 5: Rowlis won the NFL draft. You know, he first five
Speaker 5: picks on defensive players. And what happens to this Cardinals defense?
Speaker 5: If they can truly only rush four instead of having
Speaker 5: this scheme it up, we're just better than you upfront.
Speaker 5: I mean that just changes the defense, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: It just changes everything, Bully. I mean, it's exactly what
Speaker 1: you want. But you want the best of both worlds.
Speaker 1: If we can still scheme it up, that's great too
Speaker 1: from time to time. You just don't want to have
Speaker 1: to depend on it to get pressure. If you can
Speaker 1: rush for and drop seven, as you know, Baly, this
Speaker 1: is huge for any defensive coordinator and any defensive You
Speaker 1: can rush forward, get pressure on that quarterback and drop seven,
Speaker 1: you got a huge advantage right now. What I loved
Speaker 1: about this draft the first four picks, in particular, defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: an interior three technique, then a corner, then an outside
Speaker 1: edge guy in Jordan Birch, and then Cody Simon an
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. Four different positions on different levels and man,
Speaker 1: this is what's got me so excited. I think the
Speaker 1: defensive line of scrimmage has improved so much. And I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about just these drafts because you know, PAULI,
Speaker 1: a rookie's got to prove it. He's got a long way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta climb that hill and you've got to prove
Speaker 1: that you can actually do it. But right now, looking
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage defensively and the names that
Speaker 1: they already have on the line of scrimmage, this is
Speaker 1: this is going to be the most competitive room on
Speaker 1: the entire team.
Speaker 5: So to your point about Daris Robinson and Walter Nolan,
Speaker 5: the third now Drew stan RedSea report former Cardinals quarterback,
Speaker 5: said you know what, I take either one of those
Speaker 5: guys or both and put him at the three technique
Speaker 5: on the outside shoulder of the guard. He said, that's
Speaker 5: where I think they're going to be the biggest headache,
Speaker 5: cause the most problems. It's most difficult for an offense
Speaker 5: to give help and slide over some extra attention that way.
Speaker 5: And I kept talking about, you know, rushing the passer
Speaker 5: with four and then Drew said, no, it goes beyond that.
Speaker 8: The Super Bowl ask Patrick Mahomes what that feels like.
Speaker 8: They don't have four rush and seven are now in coverage,
Speaker 8: and you can change coverage right, You can drop safeties in,
Speaker 8: you can insert and do different stuff. It gives it
Speaker 8: an extreme advantage to the defense when you don't have
Speaker 8: to bring more guys to the party than you need.
Speaker 8: As a true quarterback, your eyes have to be on
Speaker 8: that second and third level. You can't watch the rush
Speaker 8: and play in this league. You can be the greatest
Speaker 8: quarterback of all time. And if you consistently are getting hit,
Speaker 8: all of a sudden you start looking around. Those eyes drop.
Speaker 8: You're chasing ghosts. Your accuracy is affected. There is no
Speaker 8: replacement for being able to get pressure with four.
Speaker 5: I mean a year ago at the end of the season,
Speaker 5: you had Nae Kwon Jones, and you had some other
Speaker 5: guys like off the practice squad that right now Wolf,
Speaker 5: that defensive line, Darius Robinson, Walter Nolan, Dalvin Tomlinson, Koleis Campbell,
Speaker 5: Justin Jones, Blall Nickels back from injury. Stop it, Dante
Speaker 5: Still's LJ. Collier. That's eight stop it. That's eight dudes
Speaker 5: who can play.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. Paul It really is. And again the defensive
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. It impacts the second and third levels
Speaker 1: so much, Paul, by getting that pressure on a quarterback,
Speaker 1: by making them a little bit inaccurate because you're in
Speaker 1: his face and he doesn't be able to he's not
Speaker 1: able to release the ball the way that he wants to.
Speaker 1: It's so important. It impacts a second and third level.
Speaker 1: And that's why Will Johnson, who's got a great mind,
Speaker 1: This is a quarterback like Everson Walls, who is gonna clue.
Speaker 1: He looks at the quarterback and play in his own room,
Speaker 1: whether it's cover four, quarter coverage cover three, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Will Johnson is great at jumping, combination routes and picking
Speaker 1: off the football. And if you can get pressure on
Speaker 1: a quarterback, that's gonna make Will Johnson that much better.
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Speaker 5: Cardinals user first five picks on defensive players for the
Speaker 5: first time since nineteen ninety one. How and why we
Speaker 5: ask the assistant GM Dave Sears next, on the Big
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Speaker 4: Walter Nolan number two in blue you cannot miss him
Speaker 4: explodes off that line comes on the ground, Sellers buffled
Speaker 4: it and all.
Speaker 2: This jumped on.
Speaker 4: It's recovered by Nolan. Seller's in trouble head and sack
Speaker 4: back at the forty two by Nolan, tumbled up by
Speaker 4: Walter Nolan.
Speaker 5: Boy Walter Nolan with a sack.
Speaker 4: A fuffle recovery and a tackle for long play by
Speaker 4: Nolan to grab him at the ankles and sack them.
Speaker 2: This is why so many people talked about what his
Speaker 2: presence could be to Wall's out.
Speaker 4: At the end of the plot here and all miss
Speaker 4: has recovered, Walter Nolan has the puffle. Walter Nolan tackle
Speaker 4: for lost total scream not alone of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: Walter Nolan is everyone.
Speaker 5: That's the first team All American and first round pick
Speaker 5: Walter Nolan in the Arizona Cardinals. Even heard the voice
Speaker 5: of the Cardinals Dave Passion there as well. Not gonna
Speaker 5: be a big transition for the ESPN guy college Football
Speaker 5: to start calling his NFL games. Walter Nolan. In fact,
Speaker 5: last we saw and heard our guest here on the
Speaker 5: big red rage. He was on the Pasch pod, but
Speaker 5: what is becoming a bit of a tradition post draft.
Speaker 5: We are joined by Assistant general manager Dave Sears, and
Speaker 5: Dave welcome. I'm a little apprehensive considering the way this
Speaker 5: week started and Bill's GM Brandon being going after a
Speaker 5: couple of radio hosts in Buffalo. You know what you know?
Speaker 5: Are there any grievances that need to be aired on
Speaker 5: your end of all?
Speaker 9: All?
Speaker 10: Listen, I'm not going to take any crap from you
Speaker 10: the Paul, So let's just get that out there right now. Hey,
Speaker 10: I appreciate you having me on here.
Speaker 5: Speaking to the media. Let's be honest, all right, we're
Speaker 5: in the Will Ferrell trust tree here. When you guys
Speaker 5: need a good laugh, right when you're doing the grind
Speaker 5: leading up to the draft and you're up in the
Speaker 5: draft room, do you just pull out a mock draft?
Speaker 5: Is that a good Do you guys just mock the
Speaker 5: mock drafts along the way?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 10: You know, we do do some exercises pre draft process
Speaker 10: where we'll incorporate some of the mock drafts. Our analytics guys,
Speaker 10: Nick Tyas, Joe andrewsy do a ton of mock draft simulations.
Speaker 10: So we do have a pretty good feel according to
Speaker 10: the quote unquote experts, how they think it's going to
Speaker 10: come off. We have some adress where we put up
Speaker 10: how we think it's going to come off. How do
Speaker 10: those things correlate, just to give you an idea of
Speaker 10: what you're really going to be faced with when you're
Speaker 10: on the clock. So there shouldn't be any surprises. A
Speaker 10: couple of scenarios worked out very similarly to the way
Speaker 10: we had it planned out, and then you know, as
Speaker 10: the picks come off and then suddenly it diverges from
Speaker 10: what you were thinking it might be, then you adjust
Speaker 10: to that. So you do go through those exercises quite
Speaker 10: a bit.
Speaker 5: You know, the media likes to declare at this point
Speaker 5: who won the draft. Our answer is Nick Rolis, Cardinals
Speaker 5: defensive coordinator. At this point, let's just start with some
Speaker 5: of his guys, Walter Nolan. You know, look, we can
Speaker 5: see the stats, we can see the accolades. What did
Speaker 5: you see on film?
Speaker 10: Well, you see an explosive athlete who plays very hard,
Speaker 10: who's a violent, aggressive player, a guy that can launch
Speaker 10: off the ball, he can reset the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 10: he can do everything we're going to ask him to do.
Speaker 10: He has some versatility to play up and down the
Speaker 10: line for probably a five all the way to a zero,
Speaker 10: and a guy that really hasn't maximized yet. We still
Speaker 10: think there's a good upside to the player, but you know,
Speaker 10: fits the scheme and he's a violent, disruptive defensive lineman.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't turn twenty two until October.
Speaker 10: He's still a young kid. You know, this is a
Speaker 10: guy who's the number one recruit in the country, I believe,
Speaker 10: coming out of high school Texas A and M and
Speaker 10: then Aunt Old Miss where he had a really good
Speaker 10: year this year, end up playing in the Senior Bowl,
Speaker 10: flashing down there. We had some very good interactions with
Speaker 10: Walter at the Combine and then on his thirty visit,
Speaker 10: so we were very comfortable with Walter the person, and
Speaker 10: the tape speaks for itself.
Speaker 2: I think. Yeah.
Speaker 5: There was an opening line in the AP story and
Speaker 5: it went something like this, the Arizona Cardinals weren't scared
Speaker 5: to roll the dice and a few polarizing defensive prospects
Speaker 5: Will Johnson. I think you know the injuries, So for
Speaker 5: do you consider this Will roll of the dice? Walter Nolan,
Speaker 5: Will Johnson, and then we'll get to Jordan Birch.
Speaker 10: But yeah, well, I mean, you're not rolling the dice
Speaker 10: on Walter's talent. I'm not sure where that assumption would
Speaker 10: come from. And Walter's tape is not a roll of
Speaker 10: the dice, So I don't I don't really see it
Speaker 10: that way. I think there's probably a little bit of
Speaker 10: media misinformation about Walter the person. Sometimes that happens in
Speaker 10: the draft pross. But we spent enough time with Walter
Speaker 10: to feel very comfortable with him, so it's not a
Speaker 10: roll of dice for us, you know. And with Will again, like,
Speaker 10: this is a guy that's a true junior. He's a
Speaker 10: three time All American. He's got the Michigan record for
Speaker 10: pick sixes. He was a defensive MVP the National Championship game.
Speaker 10: I mean, every time he turned on the tape, the
Speaker 10: guy's playing good ball. You know, his father was a
Speaker 10: player at Michigan at DBI. He's a well regarded trainer
Speaker 10: in the Detroit area. So like, this is about as
Speaker 10: clean a player as you can find in terms of
Speaker 10: his skill set and his production. There were some injuries
Speaker 10: with Will, but nothing we thought was that he couldn't overcome.
Speaker 1: Or we can't manage. So we were excited about Will being.
Speaker 2: There for sure.
Speaker 5: Cardinals assistant GM Dave Sears our guest, at what point
Speaker 5: do you think, Wow, Will Johnson might make it to
Speaker 5: forty seven.
Speaker 10: At pick forty six? You know, we never thought that
Speaker 10: guy was going to be there. Really never thought that
Speaker 10: guy was going to be there. So that was one
Speaker 10: of the ones where you heard many talk a lot
Speaker 10: post draft about sticking to your board. That's a clear
Speaker 10: case of that Will was obviously the best player that
Speaker 10: we had on the board at that time. We never
Speaker 10: thought Will would be there at that point, and so
Speaker 10: you know, you stay with your board and you take the.
Speaker 5: Prospect and Money also mentioned the phones were lighting up,
Speaker 5: there were opportunities to trade down. I'm guessing there was
Speaker 5: a lot of interest, a lot of demand at that
Speaker 5: point for your pick.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and whether that's for Will or for somebody else,
Speaker 10: you never know.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 10: The thing that I think when you talk about the
Speaker 10: mock drafse, well, the mock drafts grade you off how
Speaker 10: they had their board stacked and how you drafted according
Speaker 10: to their experts board. Well, there's thirty two teams and
Speaker 10: I've been on a lot of different places. There's thirty
Speaker 10: two different boards. So a guy that we think is
Speaker 10: coming off a little early, that team thinks, hey, we
Speaker 10: got to move up and take this guy.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 10: So everybody sees it a little bit different. And you
Speaker 10: can see that based off some of the moves teams make.
Speaker 10: They feel like that's a player they need to move
Speaker 10: up and get, or a player you can trade back
Speaker 10: and get the same value later. So yeah, we did
Speaker 10: not expect Will to be there, but we felt great
Speaker 10: about it when it happened.
Speaker 5: Two words have seen attached to Jordan Birch right the
Speaker 5: round three edge out of Oregon, jumbo athlete and all
Speaker 5: you can do is watch his fake punt at six'
Speaker 5: four what two to eighty and he looks Like Dereck
Speaker 5: henry racing down the. Field what do you have in?
Speaker 2: Him?
Speaker 10: Oh, Yeah jordan's a very athletic. Guy he's a guy
Speaker 10: THAT i, think you, know he's two seventy nine at the,
Speaker 10: combine basically two. EIGHTY i don't think there was another
Speaker 10: player two eighty and up that ran in the four
Speaker 10: sixes and his time was like four to six seven
Speaker 10: on the. Combine watches so very athletic. Guy you see
Speaker 10: that he looks like a running back on that fake,
Speaker 10: punt certainly at least a tight. End and he's played
Speaker 10: anywhere from in the two nineties to in the two.
Speaker 10: Seventies he can lose, weight he can gain, weight he
Speaker 10: can play, inside he can play on the. Edge we're
Speaker 10: going to play him on the, edge so we see
Speaker 10: him somewhere more in the two. Seventies but versatile player
Speaker 10: really like the. Athlete he can rush the, passer he
Speaker 10: can do it on multitude of, ways and he's very
Speaker 10: firm at the point setting an. Edge so we're excited About.
Speaker 10: Jordan that's another guy that we really stayed with our board.
Speaker 10: There we were not sure that he would be there
Speaker 10: at seventy.
Speaker 5: Eight, yeah and you mentioned that because obviously it's we
Speaker 5: sort of, Joked, okay put This cardinals defensive front an
Speaker 5: HD tv right extreme. MAKEOVER i, mean it's unbelievable how
Speaker 5: different it. Looks refresh our. Memory how many edge and
Speaker 5: defensive linemen can you carry on a final fifty? Three
Speaker 5: and how competitive is it going to?
Speaker 10: Be starting With cardinals, Camp, Well i'm pretty sure we
Speaker 10: carried six out of. Camp the last two, YEARS i,
Speaker 10: think and so we usually take eight to. Camp we
Speaker 10: might have had nine at one point during our first.
Speaker 10: Year but any three four, defense the outside linebacker position
Speaker 10: is basically the engine that runs the. Things so you're
Speaker 10: going to keep excess of. Guys there also guys that
Speaker 10: have roles on special. Teams you, know some of these
Speaker 10: back end dudes in the outside back room are going
Speaker 10: to have to earn roles on special. Teams that's going
Speaker 10: to be their way to stick. Around and we think
Speaker 10: all those guys contributed in that. Aspect they're all, tough
Speaker 10: they're all, athletic they can all. Run but you, know
Speaker 10: LIKE i, THINK mani used the, line you can never
Speaker 10: have enough pass. Rushers, well that's what we're trying to
Speaker 10: accumulate is just a bevy of guys that you can
Speaker 10: roll in and. Out and we feel really good about
Speaker 10: all these guys abilities at the edge as.
Speaker 5: Well if you talk about the, engine how about to
Speaker 5: the brains of a defense inside, Linebacker Mike backer tell
Speaker 5: us About Cody. Simon it Just i've seen Late bloomer attached.
Speaker 5: Him just seemed as the season went on last year
Speaker 5: he just got better and. Better, Yeah cody had a
Speaker 5: really good. YEAR i Think cody ended up being THE
Speaker 5: mvp of this Year's National championship. Game so we actually
Speaker 5: drafted THE mvp of the last Two national. Championshiping it
Speaker 5: was kind of just an interesting, tid but this this
Speaker 5: is a guy that you, know was a team captain this.
Speaker 5: Year he won the Block O, recipient which is A
Speaker 5: leadership In accountability award At Ohio. State guy's got really high,
Speaker 5: character really high FOOTBALL. Iq we feel like he could
Speaker 5: handle that green dot, role which which is you, know a.
Speaker 10: Big deal in THE nfl being able to do. That
Speaker 10: you only have one on the field at the. Time
Speaker 10: so we Felt cody could do, that and we felt,
Speaker 10: like you, know we had a path for him to
Speaker 10: make the roster in that area on our. Team so
Speaker 10: we really feel good about The cody, pick and we
Speaker 10: felt like we didn't have to reach on the. Guy
Speaker 10: that was good value for where he, went and he's certainly.
Speaker 10: Improved you, know he had a really good player in
Speaker 10: front of, Him Tommy eikenberg there in the, past who
Speaker 10: was a draft pick last, year and Then cody got
Speaker 10: a chance this here to really take off and he.
Speaker 5: Did so we felt great About cody that's. Interesting he
Speaker 5: was four time Academic All Big. Ten he talks about.
Speaker 5: Instincts how big a leap do you generally consider it
Speaker 5: to wear a green dot from the college to THE nfl.
Speaker 5: Level it's a pretty big.
Speaker 10: Leap but usually the guys that can do in college
Speaker 10: can do it in THE. Nfl you, know there's a
Speaker 10: lot put on their plate. Too it's a newer thing
Speaker 10: in the college, game actually having the green dot on the,
Speaker 10: field but it's the same responsibilities the guys making the
Speaker 10: calls are relaying and from the. Sidelines but you're looking
Speaker 10: for that leadership, capacity that football intelligence, capacity the ability
Speaker 10: to command ten other players on the field and know
Speaker 10: where they all have to line, up and so if
Speaker 10: somebody turns to you echoing the calls and getting guys
Speaker 10: aligned before the. Snap so that takes some poise and
Speaker 10: some football intelligence for.
Speaker 5: Sure ASSISTANT Gm Dave sears our guest last. Year we
Speaker 5: talked about just the unbelievable, popularity, right the insatiable appetite
Speaker 5: for the draft, itself the draft. Process everyone thinks they're A, gm,
Speaker 5: right including pencil next week yours. Truly so when The
Speaker 5: cardinals traded the round five pick To dallas right for
Speaker 5: a later on five pick in round, six and THEN i,
Speaker 5: saw for, Example Tory horton come off the, board the
Speaker 5: big fast receiver out Of Colorado, state and then THE
Speaker 5: lsu Guard Miles frasier come off the. Board i'm, like,
Speaker 5: oh those those might have fit a couple of needs
Speaker 5: for The. Cardinals but then you cashed In Denzel burke the,
Speaker 5: corner and then you went After Hayn, connor the offensive
Speaker 5: lineman out Of, texas and it all sort of made.
Speaker 5: Sense let's start With Denzel, burke AND i THINK mani said,
Speaker 5: it just the just the cowboy receiver he has practiced
Speaker 5: against At Ohio state the last four years is, ridiculous isn't.
Speaker 10: It, YEAH i Think denzel has practiced against five first
Speaker 10: round receivers of the last his. Career so the game's
Speaker 10: easier For denzel in comparison to the guys he's going
Speaker 10: as you, Know marvin And Garrett wilson And chris al And,
Speaker 10: Jacobo Ya lave And buka this. Year So i'm a
Speaker 10: really high competition. There the guy's battle tested local. PRODUCT
Speaker 10: i Think souarrows we're in and he might have gone
Speaker 10: To brophy, earlier but you, know the guy is a
Speaker 10: four year. Starter he's got fifty one career. Starts that's
Speaker 10: most by A dB In ohio state. History that was
Speaker 10: so and so the guy certainly played a lot of
Speaker 10: football at a high. Level obviously nobody's done that before,
Speaker 10: there so that's pretty impressive in. Itself and that was
Speaker 10: another you, know kind of like The Will. Johnson we
Speaker 10: did not Expect denzel to be there in the fifth,
Speaker 10: round and so we just had to stay with our
Speaker 10: bourn and take the. Talent so we feel good about the.
Speaker 10: Kid he was another guy that we had in here
Speaker 10: on a thirty. Visit he's a local. Guy that was
Speaker 10: easy to do and he really reflected positively on his,
Speaker 10: Visit so we felt comfortable With denzhil there.
Speaker 5: In terms of. Value maybe my favorite pick just looking
Speaker 5: at Is Hayden. CONNOR i, mean AND i bring this
Speaker 5: up because it was week Seventeen cardinals went to The
Speaker 5: rams and you realized that their starting Center Bo limmer
Speaker 5: was a sixth round pick our To arkansas and he
Speaker 5: had beat out a highly paid free. Agent And i'm,
Speaker 5: like you know, What Hayden connor has a lot of
Speaker 5: similarities to his career arc At texas and then people,
Speaker 5: say just look at his film Against Mason, Graham Kenneth,
Speaker 5: grant think of the defensive lineman he's gone against At
Speaker 5: texas over the last four. Years what do you think
Speaker 5: you have In Hayden.
Speaker 10: Connor, YEAH i, mean you can put on That michigan.
Speaker 10: Tape you can put it on The texas and m.
Speaker 10: Tape you can put on the you know a lot
Speaker 10: of to The kentucky. Tape you can put on a
Speaker 10: lot of tape where this guy's playing guys who got
Speaker 10: drafted this, year got drafted last YEAR nfl. Player so
Speaker 10: it's not a question Of Kenny BLACK nfl players he's been.
Speaker 10: Doing he's GOT i think forty three consecutive starts At.
Speaker 10: Texas that's that's pretty damn. Good so you got a
Speaker 10: big guy who's really smart and who's fundamentally. Sound so
Speaker 10: we were excited That hayden was still. There he does
Speaker 10: have some ability to play, center although primarily we see
Speaker 10: him as a. Guard but any kind of interior versatility you,
Speaker 10: have or even if it's guard to, tackle you, know
Speaker 10: that obviously helps you because when you're a back end
Speaker 10: player in THE, nfl you have to have some versatility
Speaker 10: as an offensive. Lineman we think he has, that and
Speaker 10: we think the guy's got a chance to was. Sent
Speaker 10: i'm not going to put a ceiling on, him but
Speaker 10: we feel really good About hayden in the sixth.
Speaker 5: Rounds, certainly if you hit zoom out on The cardinals
Speaker 5: three draft, classes Many, Osport Dave, Sears Jonathan, gannon we've
Speaker 5: come to ascertain that there's one similar, similarity and it's all.
Speaker 5: Ball all these guys seem deadly serious about. Football how
Speaker 5: big a deal is that in the evaluation.
Speaker 10: Process, YEAH i, mean minding could probably be more extensive
Speaker 10: with the things we look, for BUT i would simply
Speaker 10: say guys who love, football guys who can learn, football
Speaker 10: and guys who know how to treat people off the.
Speaker 10: Field and if you got those kind of, characteristics and
Speaker 10: you're going to be a fit, here and that's really
Speaker 10: what we're looking. For in a, nutshell you, KNOW i
Speaker 10: could break down into more micro, categories but that's really.
Speaker 5: It production versus. Potential here's another QUESTION i want to ask.
Speaker 5: You how often does that come up when you're trying
Speaker 5: to decide on a player and whether doing invest a draft.
Speaker 5: Pick how vital is it to see the. Production how
Speaker 5: often did you just go on?
Speaker 10: POTENTIAL i mean that's kind of the artist, scouting you
Speaker 10: know WHAT i, mean the, measurables the athletic. Ability is
Speaker 10: that translating to the. Field will that translate in the
Speaker 10: field to the future if it's a different, scheme if
Speaker 10: it's different. Coaching has this guy reached his? Ceiling what
Speaker 10: is his? Ceiling all those kind of Things going To,
Speaker 10: kyle scouting is a projection, business whereas like pro, scouting
Speaker 10: how good is this player and does he fit what we're?
Speaker 1: Doing SO i.
Speaker 10: Don't know that there's a percentage that's the tape now
Speaker 10: versus will to take be two years from. Now but
Speaker 10: we always, say like, hey when you put your Final
Speaker 10: coyle's great on, it it's what is this guy in
Speaker 10: two years because we do expect every player to improve
Speaker 10: from the time they get.
Speaker 5: Here, interesting as we wrap it up here with Assistant
Speaker 5: Jim Dave, sears you look at we go full circle
Speaker 5: To Nick rollis And i'm curious what happens to this
Speaker 5: defense that he can truly rush for and affect the
Speaker 5: Quarterback because of injuries and trying to accumulate talent over
Speaker 5: the last couple. Years he hasn't always had that, luxury
Speaker 5: has He.
Speaker 10: NO i, think you, know we've placed some stress On
Speaker 10: nick in terms of the, roster but he's an excellent young.
Speaker 1: Coach he's very.
Speaker 10: Innovative the amount of times he's truly gonna give you
Speaker 10: just a straightfour man rush isn't gonna be very often
Speaker 10: because he's gonna simulate. Pressure you, know he's gonna zone drop,
Speaker 10: guys he's gonna bring more and he's gonna constantly outthink
Speaker 10: the offensive. Coordinator so now he's got more pieces to.
Speaker 10: Use he's got more, depth, certainly and that's something especially
Speaker 10: on the defensive. Line we've been beat up early in
Speaker 10: the year these last couple of. Years you, know we
Speaker 10: LOST lj And Carlos watkins early two years. Ago last
Speaker 10: year we Lost justin And malal early unfortunately the injuries
Speaker 10: and so our depth has really been. Tested and the
Speaker 10: guys who played played their asses off and did a good.
Speaker 10: Job but now we have more depth going into this
Speaker 10: where we feel really good. About you, know if we
Speaker 10: do lose, somebody which happens is THE, nfl you're gonna lose.
Speaker 10: Players the guy stepping in there is not going to
Speaker 10: be a big drop off for hoping and real.
Speaker 5: Quick you still feel really good About Darius, robinson, Right.
Speaker 10: Oh, yeah we feel great about d Rob he's had
Speaker 10: an awesome. Offseason he's gonna have a great OTAs, here
Speaker 10: he's dialed. In we feel like he's in a really
Speaker 10: good place to tick.
Speaker 2: The next, Step.
Speaker 5: Dave we always enjoy. It it's great. Stuff, well you,
Speaker 5: know we always fashion ourselves as thinking we know something
Speaker 5: about player personnel and all the mock, drafts so it's
Speaker 5: great to actually be taking inside the draft room a little.
Speaker 5: Bit and how you go about accumulating all the.
Speaker 10: Talent, WELL i appreciate you having me, On. PAUL i
Speaker 10: always enjoy, it.
Speaker 5: And thank you for keeping the grievances to. Yourself if
Speaker 5: you have. Anything, Yeah i'm Like Brandon.
Speaker 1: Bean there you.
Speaker 5: Go we continue with a big red rage presented by
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Speaker 5: moush quick throw, in accept.
Speaker 4: It it's gotta be a pick Sex Will. Johnson we'll take.
Speaker 8: It put.
Speaker 3: Over he touched Down, johnson one of the couch quarterbacks
Speaker 3: in the. Country silt it, True michigan six touch.
Speaker 5: Down other rains play fake.
Speaker 2: Underneath he accept.
Speaker 4: It, Michigan Will Johnson jeff de route cross forward and
Speaker 4: has it at the five yard. Line Will johnson is
Speaker 4: one of the best corners In.
Speaker 5: America as ASSISTANT Gm Dave sears just shared with us
Speaker 5: here on The Big Red rage presented By Santan ford And,
Speaker 5: gilbert The ears and The cardinals have drafted the last
Speaker 5: two defensive MVPs some the last two national title games
Speaker 5: in college, football Including Will. Johnson it is The Big Red.
Speaker 5: Rage paul Calvec Ron wolfley special thanks to the ASSISTANT
Speaker 5: Gm Dave, sears and, yeah The Will johnson comments are.
Speaker 5: Interesting speaking of the other DEFENSIVE mvp from a national title,
Speaker 5: Game Cody, SIMON i thought it was really intriguing that
Speaker 5: it is, elite but it's not impossible to go from
Speaker 5: being the green dot in college to a green dot
Speaker 5: as a rookie in THE, nfl which makes me wonder
Speaker 5: if he's in competition for a Starting mike linebacker gig
Speaker 5: from the get go Minus Kaizer. White but that's just
Speaker 5: me thinking out, loud Wolf.
Speaker 1: That's going to be really interesting to, Watch, paulie no
Speaker 1: doubt about. IT i liked it when you Asked Dave
Speaker 1: sears About Will johnson you, said when did you believe
Speaker 1: that he was really going to be there for you
Speaker 1: guys to pick at forty? Seven and he, said without,
Speaker 1: hesitation after forty. SIX i mean it had to be
Speaker 1: a shock to them a guy that is a bona
Speaker 1: fide first round talent to be available at full.
Speaker 5: Seven and at FIRST i thought he was, embellishing AND i, realized,
Speaker 5: no he's totally. Serious and to reinforce, that here's What
Speaker 5: Jonathan gannon said On Mad Dogs Sports radio When Adam
Speaker 5: shine asked him about the availability Of Will johnson.
Speaker 9: At Their friday End AND mani has all these algorithms
Speaker 9: that he, has all the analytics people running all this,
Speaker 9: stuff AND i, said what are the chances that he's
Speaker 9: there in? Two and they're, like, coach like point zero,
Speaker 9: Two like no. Chance, Right so when he was sitting
Speaker 9: there right at, Him i'm, like, dude AM i missing?
Speaker 9: Something like this is the best corner in the? Draft
Speaker 9: like what are we talking? About like you, know and
Speaker 9: there's a group of players that we liked and right
Speaker 9: when we were, picking and that was kind of a
Speaker 9: no brainer, too where like we think this guy's a
Speaker 9: starting corner and you, know just the person as phenomenal as.
Speaker 9: Intangibles he's very, intelligent and he really is a scheme
Speaker 9: fit for us. Too so it was, like, dude, like
Speaker 9: let's take that.
Speaker 5: Guy see, now that's interesting this scheme. Fit on top
Speaker 5: of being you, know six,' two on top of being,
Speaker 5: incredibly athletic one of the top turning of recruits coming
Speaker 5: out of, high school being a Two Time, all american
Speaker 5: he fits the scheme.
Speaker 1: As.
Speaker 5: Well wolf you care to SPECULATE what jg means? About, That, yeah.
Speaker 1: Paul You know i've been talking, about it just the
Speaker 1: scheme Fit That will. Johnson is leading up to. The
Speaker 1: draft YOU, and i as a matter, of fact had
Speaker 1: this conversation, about him the fact that he's six to
Speaker 1: two hundred and, two pounds but more, than that he's
Speaker 1: a corner that plays really really well in. Zone Coverage
Speaker 1: The arizona cardinals quarter coverage specifically four deep three underneath
Speaker 1: rushing four that's called. Quarter coverage for the, most part
Speaker 1: they play an awful lot, of It And will johnson
Speaker 1: is really really good playing in his. Zone room this
Speaker 1: is something that is, In. Eight paul it's your ability
Speaker 1: to dissect what it is that you're seeing and row
Speaker 1: combinations and then keeping your eyes on the quarterback and
Speaker 1: being able to cover the receiver and make a break
Speaker 1: on a ball unexpectedly from time. To time this Is
Speaker 1: What will johnson Gives The. Arizona cardinals AND what i
Speaker 1: Loved about day two was the fact that they Also Drafted,
Speaker 1: jordan birch that kid from at six. Eighty pounds the
Speaker 1: combination of getting edge pressure from a Guy Like jordan
Speaker 1: burch and that resulting in a possible Pick From will
Speaker 1: johnson is SOMETHING that i am predicting right now in the.
Speaker 5: Rookie season so in that, Same Interview jonathan, gannon said
Speaker 5: After the Cardinals Took, will johnson he had quote about
Speaker 5: eight defensive coordinators, text, him oh you got maybe the
Speaker 5: best corner in. The draft so there were a lot
Speaker 5: of teams that had their Eye On will johnson and
Speaker 5: we're both. In agreement cardinals probably had a lot of
Speaker 5: action on the phone wanting. THAT pick, mani, said nope
Speaker 5: they made the selection of, forty seven and then to,
Speaker 5: your point at number, seventy eight They Took. Jordan burch
Speaker 5: started his Career At, south carolina ended Up. At oregon this,
Speaker 5: last season he played, ten games, nine starts had eight
Speaker 5: and a, half sacks eleven tackles, for loss six. Passes
Speaker 5: defensed he missed four games due to injury right rolled,
Speaker 5: an ankle but other than that he was. Really disruptive,
Speaker 5: in fact Let's let maniaciford take it. From there what
Speaker 5: he Liked About, jordan.
Speaker 6: Birch, size, length power ability to collapse. The pocket he
Speaker 6: missed a couple, of games got dinged up with. Some
Speaker 6: injuries this year was productive in the games, he played
Speaker 6: played against good people and brings a unique skill set
Speaker 6: for a guy who's his size and length to be
Speaker 6: able to play on his feet and play out on
Speaker 6: the edge of the line.
Speaker 5: Of scrimmage so we mentioned how DIFFERENT the d line.
Speaker 5: Room looks how about outside linebacker edge Right Now Wolf,
Speaker 5: Josh sweat Xavi And Collins baron browning is back And.
Speaker 5: Healthy bjojalari you can only help, You know hope. Is Healthy, xavier,
Speaker 5: thomas who by, the way. Looks swoll apparently he's been winning.
Speaker 5: The Offseason xavier thomas And Now jordan birch will be
Speaker 5: joined at times Maybe By Mac. Wilson senior but tell
Speaker 5: us how You Think jordan birch fits into that room
Speaker 5: and what that means for the.
Speaker 1: Entire, group yeah, YOU KNOW pauli i think in third
Speaker 1: and obvious. PAST situations i think at some point in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty, FIVE season i don't know if it's
Speaker 1: from the, first GAME but i think early in, this
Speaker 1: season at, SOME point I Think jordan birch is going
Speaker 1: to be a guy that is playing out on. The
Speaker 1: Edge Obviously josh sweat is going to be one of,
Speaker 1: those guys but Opposite Of, josh sweat you might have
Speaker 1: a just an absolute competition that you're talking about maybe
Speaker 1: five guys that are going to be in the running
Speaker 1: to be that. Guy OPPOSITE and i Also Think, jordan
Speaker 1: birch because he's he's two hundred and, eighty pounds you
Speaker 1: might want to line him up even as a three.
Speaker 1: Technique inside but it's going to be fascinating to me
Speaker 1: to see how they. Use him and you can say
Speaker 1: that about so many, different Guys and polly would just
Speaker 1: Say That nick rowlis is a guy that does some
Speaker 1: unorthodox things from time to time in terms of scheming
Speaker 1: up certain pass rushes. Or, coverages yes so when you
Speaker 1: said he's a guy who, does that when You.
Speaker 5: Said jordan birch in, that. Context right THE flexibility i
Speaker 5: Thought Is zavin collins on This Show Big red rage
Speaker 5: in the year saying all the different positions he was
Speaker 5: Used By Nick rowlis. Zay mccollins a nearly, six' five
Speaker 5: two seventy he was inside of a three technique. On
Speaker 5: passing downs he's playing deep center field other times because.
Speaker 5: He Can run, and i'm thinking, You Know what jordan
Speaker 5: birch has a similar size, and skill set?
Speaker 1: Does, he not, Yes, He does paul yet at, the
Speaker 1: same Time You got walter, nolan as well and You Also.
Speaker 1: Have darius, robinson two Guys Where is darius robinson going
Speaker 1: to be over that that guards outside shoulder as, a
Speaker 1: three technique especially on? Third and obvious where are the
Speaker 1: pass rush reps? Gonna come from who's going to? Fill
Speaker 1: that need it's going to be fascinating to watch that
Speaker 1: as the. Season, on folds, Paul.
Speaker 5: For example walter nolan, the third right he was known
Speaker 5: for playing a boatload of snaps. AT all, miss i
Speaker 5: mean he played almost the entirety, of every game and
Speaker 5: That's something that cardinal's really respected about. His game film in,
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter he's still running. DOWN screens, downfield i
Speaker 5: mean they really think he as. A great motor but
Speaker 5: now instead of playing sixty, snaps a game if he's
Speaker 5: playing thirty or thirty five really good snaps and he's
Speaker 5: able to let it rip and you're bringing guys. In,
Speaker 5: in waves right once again our big Question about. This
Speaker 5: cardinals Defense Instead of nick rowlis getting to the quarterback,
Speaker 5: by you know, dialing it up who? Went or where
Speaker 5: if you force an, offense to answer how how can
Speaker 5: you stop our dudes one on one? Four man rush
Speaker 5: it just. Totally changes everything elevates the entire unit on
Speaker 5: that side.
Speaker 1: Of the ball no. Doubt. About it, paulie once again
Speaker 1: get pressure on that quarterback and suddenly your secondary gets.
Speaker 1: Ten times, Better, all right.
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Speaker 1: Simon Pips jackson d.
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Speaker 5: Cody simon i'll tell you a, lot to like a lot,
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Speaker 5: Beat new england there. Were eighteen starters eighteen starters who
Speaker 5: are drafted in the fourth, round or lower including six. Undrafted.
Speaker 5: Free agents wow so it shows you the value that
Speaker 5: can be had. On day three and if you're talking,
Speaker 5: About Round four cody, simon the linebacker, Round Five, Corner denzel,
Speaker 5: Burke Round six hayden Connor, out of texas the, Interior Offensive,
Speaker 5: lineman keaton crawford the Safety out of nevada who's spent
Speaker 5: his first Four. Years at texas you see, a pattern.
Speaker 5: HERE don't you i, mean big schools big time talent
Speaker 5: guys who played, in big games right. In big moments
Speaker 5: they all sort of have that one, thing in common?
Speaker 5: Do they not now.
Speaker 1: They do bully they are bawlers for, the most. PART
Speaker 1: you know i Also, THINK of rabbit I think. OF
Speaker 1: dante's stills i think of the Value That the arizona
Speaker 1: cardinals have got from. Day three ON and when i
Speaker 1: Think About, a cody simon. It's very interesting we'll see
Speaker 1: what kind of. OPPORTUNITY he gets i Also Think, of
Speaker 1: hayden connor taken in the sixth und and this is
Speaker 1: a guy. That is huge, he's six six he's three hundred.
Speaker 1: And fifteen pounds he's not going. To be wowed. He's very,
Speaker 1: experienced of course he's a guy that played an awful,
Speaker 1: lot in college and he's not going to be wowed
Speaker 1: by COMING into the nfl because He played at texas
Speaker 1: and not only who he practices against, obviously every day
Speaker 1: but also against other teams PLAYING. In the sec so
Speaker 1: it's going to be really interesting To See how. HAYDEN
Speaker 1: connor does i wouldn't go to. SLEEP on him i
Speaker 1: think he could be a guy that could could contribute. From,
Speaker 1: the beginning.
Speaker 5: Yeah let's talk about. Those two guys Let's Start. With
Speaker 5: cody simon he was the inside linebacker six two, two
Speaker 5: twenty nine ran a four to six flat forty fifty
Speaker 5: Eight Games, at ohio state he started. Thirty of them
Speaker 5: Four Time Academic, all big ten and here's what he
Speaker 5: told the media when asked about where he'd.
Speaker 2: LIKE to PLAY i think i can play in. Any scheme,
Speaker 2: POSSIBLY you know i love to, be A learner and
Speaker 2: i can just study and really prepare AS the, best
Speaker 2: i can, And you know i'll be ready to play
Speaker 2: with wherever. And With whoever so i'm just excited to
Speaker 2: be able to be part of assistant that's a little
Speaker 2: bit different and can go. To tack offenses and.
Speaker 5: HE'S really, versatile i mean there's a. Stat on him
Speaker 5: he's one of three players in college football history since
Speaker 5: twenty twelve with one hundred plus tackles in a season
Speaker 5: ago with seven sacks and, Seven passes defense so from what,
Speaker 5: IT sounds, like i mean and he also had the
Speaker 5: third Highest, Run defense analytic so sounds like he's great,
Speaker 5: in the box but he's also pretty good in space
Speaker 5: as well and getting.
Speaker 1: After, The, quarterback yeah, pauly you know and although, he's
Speaker 1: one fifteen not, One, oh four pauly he's one. FIFTEEN right,
Speaker 1: there i, mean you know running a four to six
Speaker 1: will make you one fifteen as opposed to a four
Speaker 1: or five eight or a four. Or five, nine you
Speaker 1: know one oh four is where you typically. Go on
Speaker 1: that so you know he's gonna have to. Shake it
Speaker 1: off i'm sure he's. Gonna BE fined but I Also
Speaker 1: see cody simon, BEING a guy pauli that can really
Speaker 1: help out. In transition immediately he's a guy. Who can
Speaker 1: run he plays the. Middle linebacker position we know how
Speaker 1: important that is for transition, and special teams being able to.
Speaker 1: CONTRIBUTE on Teams I think cody simon is going to
Speaker 1: be a guy right from the very beginning who is
Speaker 1: going to be given the opportunity to make a football
Speaker 1: team on transition and. In special teams.
Speaker 5: And here's The other thing I'll Say. On, CODY simon
Speaker 5: look i had a bit of A Man crushing jihad
Speaker 5: cambell right, a, little bit okay and he ran a four.
Speaker 5: OR five one i get it the Backer. Out Of
Speaker 5: alabama the eagles trade it back into the first round.
Speaker 5: To Get, him but wolf if you have superior instincts as,
Speaker 5: an inside linebacker you play a lot faster than a.
Speaker 5: Four to six so We'll See if cody simon is
Speaker 5: that guy and the, instincts are there, then guess what all,
Speaker 5: of a sudden he's making a lot of tackles like
Speaker 5: he runs a.
Speaker 6: Four to four if.
Speaker 5: You're, that good Hey How. About denzel burke how much
Speaker 5: do you like the fact that not only did he
Speaker 5: start fifty One Games, at, ohio state right, the local
Speaker 5: kid but he's gone at, least against five maybe six
Speaker 5: different first round receivers just in Practice Man. At, OHIO state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, i know again it's one of the things that
Speaker 1: comes With Going to Ohio state Or texas Or. Michigan
Speaker 1: or oregon you're playing against guys who are basically GOING
Speaker 1: to be nfl players at some. Point IN time so
Speaker 1: i do. Love that experience you're not going to be
Speaker 1: wowed by. It at all, and you know yet at, The,
Speaker 1: SAME time paul i wonder about. That cornerback room think
Speaker 1: about how well that cornerback room played Last Year with garrett,
Speaker 1: williams Of Course and Max Melton. And star thomas those
Speaker 1: three guys were just killer to me how. Well they
Speaker 1: played and now all, of a sudden you're going to
Speaker 1: throw in The Likes of Will Johnson and denzel burke
Speaker 1: and that the competition level is going. Through THE roof
Speaker 1: and i think that is such a great trend for
Speaker 1: the entire. Team right Now manti asin ford has done
Speaker 1: a great job of actually, making it competitive and this
Speaker 1: IS something that i think is really going to show.
Speaker 1: Up in training there.
Speaker 5: Are a dozen corners Currently on, the cardinals roster so
Speaker 5: you talk about a Competitive room. Called cardinals camp and
Speaker 5: Then Round. Six hayden connor you mentioned him, a little
Speaker 5: bit six. Six three FOURTEEN here's the gm moniasa fort
Speaker 5: On how the texas Guy fits.
Speaker 6: The cardinals offense, he's a, big strong guy he. Can
Speaker 6: Get movement he's texas runs the, Ball a lot he's
Speaker 6: played well, in that system and he holds up really
Speaker 6: Well IN passbro so i think he's a good fit
Speaker 6: for what we.
Speaker 5: Try TO do and i brought This Up with dave
Speaker 5: sears earlier. In The show the rams last year in
Speaker 5: round six got Their Starting center bow Limmer out of
Speaker 5: arkansas six,' five three twelve a guy who had started
Speaker 5: a ton of, games over four years so many. Similarities
Speaker 5: To this PICK hayden connor that i think he will,
Speaker 5: be given a chance and like what, he told, The
Speaker 5: meet he said i'm humble enough to. Do whatever they
Speaker 5: want i'm CONFIDENT enough to think i can challenge. FOR
Speaker 5: a starting spot. I, LOVE, the mentality.
Speaker 1: Yeah pauli this is going to Be Really. INTERESTING because
Speaker 1: hayden connor i don't think for the most part, this
Speaker 1: is just me but watching him on some of the
Speaker 1: some of THE highlight, tapes that i have. He's not
Speaker 1: super athletic he's not. A really athletic guy but what he.
Speaker 1: Is is a mauler he's a.
Speaker 2: GUY and you.
Speaker 1: Know, I love this THIS this. Is what i love
Speaker 1: he's a guy who is really hyper physical at. The,
Speaker 1: point of attack now once again you got to be able.
Speaker 1: To keep your feet but he is a guy that
Speaker 1: is going to. Come off the ball when you talk
Speaker 1: about guys coming off the ball with a dark heart,
Speaker 1: and a Painted Face. Think of hayden connor. He is
Speaker 1: that guy so let's hope that he learns and understands
Speaker 1: what it takes to be good in, protection first and
Speaker 1: foremost good at his job and. Knowing what, to do
Speaker 1: but man if he can hold up in, pass protection
Speaker 1: at all he might be a guy that could surprise coming,
Speaker 1: out of training.
Speaker 5: Camp and then, the Seventh Round pick safety keen crawford
Speaker 5: spent his First four years at Texas. Before going to
Speaker 5: nevada he played a thousand snaps on special teams in
Speaker 5: college wolf in his career as a guy Who Went
Speaker 5: to four pro bowls. As special teams assassin what does
Speaker 5: That Tell. You, about keaton crawford.
Speaker 1: Yeah it tells me an, awful lot once again and.
Speaker 1: IT'S not a surprise I think they drafted crawford because
Speaker 1: of his ability. TO play in. Transition i really do.
Speaker 1: He's a special guy he's. A guy to watch we'll
Speaker 1: see if he gets the opportunity to, make the fifty
Speaker 1: three but he is a guy that certainly can, help them.
Speaker 1: In transition no, doubt.
Speaker 5: By the way the cardinals assigned, Numbers Earlier this week walter,
Speaker 5: nolan the, Third Number ninety seven, Will Johnson numbers zero
Speaker 5: jordan birch, Will Be fifty two cody Simon fifty, As
Speaker 5: A mike linebacker, denzel burke Twenty nine and then, Jacoby
Speaker 5: Ber said, Seven Josh sweat ten kaleis, campbell wait, For
Speaker 5: It Ninety three dang dalvin tomlinson Ninety four and The
Speaker 5: Baron Of pass rush baron browning. Will be, NUMBER five.
Speaker 1: My favorite Pauli Was zero. FOR will johnson.
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