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Speaker 5: The fjeld All right, Henrywind for a minute. Going into

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Speaker 5: this year's class? Starters not stars? Was a popular refrain.

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Speaker 5: Don't tell the Arizona Cardinals they didn't draft a couple

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, PAULI, how are you doing right now?

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you? I am jacked up? Thanks for asking, Paul.

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Speaker 1: I am jacked up right now because of the Arizona

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Speaker 5: Well, if we don't have time for the greetings and

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Speaker 5: the salutations, Okay, it's our favorite time of year. Our

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Speaker 5: favorite hashtag is let the Rooks cook. And in three

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Speaker 5: want to ask you just the competition level, what is

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Pauli, there's no doubt about it. You know,

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Speaker 1: Three's a pattern. Man. There are fourteen guys on this

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Speaker 5: let's hear from Adrian Wilson, Cardinals cover too. Yes, the

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Speaker 5: And what's interesting is and we had a chance to

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Speaker 5: Rowlis won the NFL draft. You know, he first five

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Speaker 1: It just changes everything, Bully. I mean, it's exactly what

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Speaker 8: The Super Bowl ask Patrick Mahomes what that feels like.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. Paul It really is. And again the defensive

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Speaker 1: so much, Paul, by getting that pressure on a quarterback,

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Speaker 4: At the end of the plot here and all miss

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Speaker 1: Walter Nolan is everyone.

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Speaker 5: That's the first team All American and first round pick

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Speaker 5: Dave welcome. I'm a little apprehensive considering the way this

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Speaker 5: Are there any grievances that need to be aired on

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Speaker 5: your end of all?

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Speaker 9: All?

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Speaker 10: Listen, I'm not going to take any crap from you

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Speaker 5: Speaking to the media. Let's be honest, all right, we're

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You know, the media likes to declare at this point

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Speaker 5: defensive coordinator. At this point, let's just start with some

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Speaker 10: Well, you see an explosive athlete who plays very hard,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't turn twenty two until October.

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Speaker 10: He's still a young kid. You know, this is a

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Speaker 5: There was an opening line in the AP story and

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Speaker 5: do you consider this Will roll of the dice? Walter Nolan,

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Speaker 10: But yeah, well, I mean, you're not rolling the dice

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Speaker 10: on Walter's talent. I'm not sure where that assumption would

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Speaker 10: media misinformation about Walter the person. Sometimes that happens in

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Speaker 10: the draft pross. But we spent enough time with Walter

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Speaker 10: three time All American. He's got the Michigan record for

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Speaker 10: guy's playing good ball. You know, his father was a

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Speaker 10: his skill set and his production. There were some injuries

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Speaker 1: Or we can't manage. So we were excited about Will being.

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Speaker 5: Cardinals assistant GM Dave Sears our guest, at what point

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Speaker 5: do you think, Wow, Will Johnson might make it to

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Speaker 10: At pick forty six? You know, we never thought that

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Speaker 5: there were opportunities to trade down. I'm guessing there was

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and whether that's for Will or for somebody else,

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Speaker 10: The thing that I think when you talk about the

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Speaker 10: they had their board stacked and how you drafted according

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Speaker 10: I've been on a lot of different places. There's thirty

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Speaker 10: So everybody sees it a little bit different. And you

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Speaker 5: Two words have seen attached to Jordan Birch right the

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Speaker 5: round three edge out of Oregon, jumbo athlete and all

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Speaker 5: you can do is watch his fake punt at six'

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Speaker 10: Oh, Yeah jordan's a very athletic. Guy he's a guy

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Speaker 10: Seventies he can lose, weight he can gain, weight he

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Speaker 10: Jordan that's another guy that we really stayed with our board.

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Speaker 10: There we were not sure that he would be there

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Speaker 5: Eight, yeah and you mentioned that because obviously it's we

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Speaker 10: Be starting With cardinals, Camp, Well i'm pretty sure we

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Speaker 10: might have had nine at one point during our first.

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Speaker 10: Year but any three four, defense the outside linebacker position

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Speaker 10: going to keep excess of. Guys there also guys that

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Speaker 10: to be their way to stick. Around and we think

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Speaker 10: all those guys contributed in that. Aspect they're all, tough

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Speaker 10: they're all, athletic they can all. Run but you, know

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Speaker 10: LIKE i, THINK mani used the, line you can never

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Speaker 5: Well if you talk about the, engine how about to

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Speaker 5: the brains of a defense inside, Linebacker Mike backer tell

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Speaker 5: us About Cody. Simon it Just i've seen Late bloomer attached.

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Speaker 5: Him just seemed as the season went on last year

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Speaker 5: mvp of this Year's National championship. Game so we actually

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Speaker 5: character really high FOOTBALL. Iq we feel like he could

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Speaker 10: Big deal in THE nfl being able to do. That

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Speaker 10: so we Felt cody could do, that and we felt,

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Speaker 10: that was good value for where he, went and he's certainly.

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Speaker 10: front of, Him Tommy eikenberg there in the, past who

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Speaker 5: Did so we felt great About cody that's. Interesting he

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Speaker 5: was four time Academic All Big. Ten he talks about.

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Speaker 5: Instincts how big a leap do you generally consider it

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Speaker 10: Leap but usually the guys that can do in college

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Speaker 10: can do it in THE. Nfl you, know there's a

435
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 10: lot put on their plate. Too it's a newer thing

436
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 10: in the college, game actually having the green dot on the,

437
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 10: field but it's the same responsibilities the guys making the

438
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 10: calls are relaying and from the. Sidelines but you're looking

439
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,640
Speaker 10: for that leadership, capacity that football intelligence, capacity the ability

440
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 10: to command ten other players on the field and know

441
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,679
Speaker 10: where they all have to line, up and so if

442
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 10: somebody turns to you echoing the calls and getting guys

443
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 10: aligned before the. Snap so that takes some poise and

444
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 10: some football intelligence for.

445
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 5: Sure ASSISTANT Gm Dave sears our guest last. Year we

446
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 5: talked about just the unbelievable, popularity, right the insatiable appetite

447
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 5: for the draft, itself the draft. Process everyone thinks they're A, gm,

448
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 5: right including pencil next week yours. Truly so when The

449
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 5: cardinals traded the round five pick To dallas right for

450
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 5: a later on five pick in round, six and THEN i,

451
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,679
Speaker 5: saw for, Example Tory horton come off the, board the

452
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 5: big fast receiver out Of Colorado, state and then THE

453
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 5: lsu Guard Miles frasier come off the. Board i'm, like,

454
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 5: oh those those might have fit a couple of needs

455
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 5: for The. Cardinals but then you cashed In Denzel burke the,

456
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 5: corner and then you went After Hayn, connor the offensive

457
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 5: lineman out Of, texas and it all sort of made.

458
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 5: Sense let's start With Denzel, burke AND i THINK mani said,

459
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 5: it just the just the cowboy receiver he has practiced

460
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 5: against At Ohio state the last four years is, ridiculous isn't.

461
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 10: It, YEAH i Think denzel has practiced against five first

462
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 10: round receivers of the last his. Career so the game's

463
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 10: easier For denzel in comparison to the guys he's going

464
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 10: as you, Know marvin And Garrett wilson And chris al And,

465
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 10: Jacobo Ya lave And buka this. Year So i'm a

466
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 10: really high competition. There the guy's battle tested local. PRODUCT

467
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 10: i Think souarrows we're in and he might have gone

468
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 10: To brophy, earlier but you, know the guy is a

469
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 10: four year. Starter he's got fifty one career. Starts that's

470
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 10: most by A dB In ohio state. History that was

471
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 10: so and so the guy certainly played a lot of

472
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 10: football at a high. Level obviously nobody's done that before,

473
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 10: there so that's pretty impressive in. Itself and that was

474
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 10: another you, know kind of like The Will. Johnson we

475
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,880
Speaker 10: did not Expect denzel to be there in the fifth,

476
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 10: round and so we just had to stay with our

477
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 10: bourn and take the. Talent so we feel good about the.

478
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 10: Kid he was another guy that we had in here

479
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 10: on a thirty. Visit he's a local. Guy that was

480
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 10: easy to do and he really reflected positively on his,

481
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 10: Visit so we felt comfortable With denzhil there.

482
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 5: In terms of. Value maybe my favorite pick just looking

483
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 5: at Is Hayden. CONNOR i, mean AND i bring this

484
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 5: up because it was week Seventeen cardinals went to The

485
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 5: rams and you realized that their starting Center Bo limmer

486
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 5: was a sixth round pick our To arkansas and he

487
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 5: had beat out a highly paid free. Agent And i'm,

488
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 5: like you know, What Hayden connor has a lot of

489
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 5: similarities to his career arc At texas and then people,

490
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 5: say just look at his film Against Mason, Graham Kenneth,

491
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 5: grant think of the defensive lineman he's gone against At

492
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 5: texas over the last four. Years what do you think

493
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 5: you have In Hayden.

494
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 10: Connor, YEAH i, mean you can put on That michigan.

495
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 10: Tape you can put it on The texas and m.

496
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 10: Tape you can put on the you know a lot

497
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 10: of to The kentucky. Tape you can put on a

498
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 10: lot of tape where this guy's playing guys who got

499
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 10: drafted this, year got drafted last YEAR nfl. Player so

500
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 10: it's not a question Of Kenny BLACK nfl players he's been.

501
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 10: Doing he's GOT i think forty three consecutive starts At.

502
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 10: Texas that's that's pretty damn. Good so you got a

503
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 10: big guy who's really smart and who's fundamentally. Sound so

504
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 10: we were excited That hayden was still. There he does

505
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 10: have some ability to play, center although primarily we see

506
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 10: him as a. Guard but any kind of interior versatility you,

507
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 10: have or even if it's guard to, tackle you, know

508
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 10: that obviously helps you because when you're a back end

509
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 10: player in THE, nfl you have to have some versatility

510
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 10: as an offensive. Lineman we think he has, that and

511
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 10: we think the guy's got a chance to was. Sent

512
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 10: i'm not going to put a ceiling on, him but

513
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 10: we feel really good About hayden in the sixth.

514
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 5: Rounds, certainly if you hit zoom out on The cardinals

515
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 5: three draft, classes Many, Osport Dave, Sears Jonathan, gannon we've

516
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 5: come to ascertain that there's one similar, similarity and it's all.

517
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 5: Ball all these guys seem deadly serious about. Football how

518
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 5: big a deal is that in the evaluation.

519
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 10: Process, YEAH i, mean minding could probably be more extensive

520
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 10: with the things we look, for BUT i would simply

521
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 10: say guys who love, football guys who can learn, football

522
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 10: and guys who know how to treat people off the.

523
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 10: Field and if you got those kind of, characteristics and

524
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 10: you're going to be a fit, here and that's really

525
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 10: what we're looking. For in a, nutshell you, KNOW i

526
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 10: could break down into more micro, categories but that's really.

527
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 5: It production versus. Potential here's another QUESTION i want to ask.

528
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 5: You how often does that come up when you're trying

529
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 5: to decide on a player and whether doing invest a draft.

530
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 5: Pick how vital is it to see the. Production how

531
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 5: often did you just go on?

532
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 10: POTENTIAL i mean that's kind of the artist, scouting you

533
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 10: know WHAT i, mean the, measurables the athletic. Ability is

534
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 10: that translating to the. Field will that translate in the

535
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 10: field to the future if it's a different, scheme if

536
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 10: it's different. Coaching has this guy reached his? Ceiling what

537
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 10: is his? Ceiling all those kind of Things going To,

538
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 10: kyle scouting is a projection, business whereas like pro, scouting

539
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 10: how good is this player and does he fit what we're?

540
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: Doing SO i.

541
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 10: Don't know that there's a percentage that's the tape now

542
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 10: versus will to take be two years from. Now but

543
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 10: we always, say like, hey when you put your Final

544
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 10: coyle's great on, it it's what is this guy in

545
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 10: two years because we do expect every player to improve

546
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 10: from the time they get.

547
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 5: Here, interesting as we wrap it up here with Assistant

548
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 5: Jim Dave, sears you look at we go full circle

549
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 5: To Nick rollis And i'm curious what happens to this

550
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 5: defense that he can truly rush for and affect the

551
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 5: Quarterback because of injuries and trying to accumulate talent over

552
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 5: the last couple. Years he hasn't always had that, luxury

553
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 5: has He.

554
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 10: NO i, think you, know we've placed some stress On

555
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 10: nick in terms of the, roster but he's an excellent young.

556
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: Coach he's very.

557
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 10: Innovative the amount of times he's truly gonna give you

558
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 10: just a straightfour man rush isn't gonna be very often

559
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 10: because he's gonna simulate. Pressure you, know he's gonna zone drop,

560
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 10: guys he's gonna bring more and he's gonna constantly outthink

561
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 10: the offensive. Coordinator so now he's got more pieces to.

562
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 10: Use he's got more, depth, certainly and that's something especially

563
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 10: on the defensive. Line we've been beat up early in

564
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 10: the year these last couple of. Years you, know we

565
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 10: LOST lj And Carlos watkins early two years. Ago last

566
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 10: year we Lost justin And malal early unfortunately the injuries

567
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 10: and so our depth has really been. Tested and the

568
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 10: guys who played played their asses off and did a good.

569
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 10: Job but now we have more depth going into this

570
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 10: where we feel really good. About you, know if we

571
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 10: do lose, somebody which happens is THE, nfl you're gonna lose.

572
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 10: Players the guy stepping in there is not going to

573
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 10: be a big drop off for hoping and real.

574
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 5: Quick you still feel really good About Darius, robinson, Right.

575
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 10: Oh, yeah we feel great about d Rob he's had

576
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 10: an awesome. Offseason he's gonna have a great OTAs, here

577
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 10: he's dialed. In we feel like he's in a really

578
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 10: good place to tick.

579
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: The next, Step.

580
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 5: Dave we always enjoy. It it's great. Stuff, well you,

581
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 5: know we always fashion ourselves as thinking we know something

582
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 5: about player personnel and all the mock, drafts so it's

583
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 5: great to actually be taking inside the draft room a little.

584
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 5: Bit and how you go about accumulating all the.

585
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 10: Talent, WELL i appreciate you having me, On. PAUL i

586
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 10: always enjoy, it.

587
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 5: And thank you for keeping the grievances to. Yourself if

588
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 5: you have. Anything, Yeah i'm Like Brandon.

589
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: Bean there you.

590
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 5: Go we continue with a big red rage presented by

591
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Speaker 5: sand Tan ford And. Gilbert we Are sand Tan, Ford

592
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 5: moush quick throw, in accept.

593
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 4: It it's gotta be a pick Sex Will. Johnson we'll take.

594
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 8: It put.

595
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: Over he touched Down, johnson one of the couch quarterbacks

596
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: in the. Country silt it, True michigan six touch.

597
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 5: Down other rains play fake.

598
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: Underneath he accept.

599
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: It, Michigan Will Johnson jeff de route cross forward and

600
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: has it at the five yard. Line Will johnson is

601
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: one of the best corners In.

602
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 5: America as ASSISTANT Gm Dave sears just shared with us

603
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 5: here on The Big Red rage presented By Santan ford And,

604
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 5: gilbert The ears and The cardinals have drafted the last

605
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 5: two defensive MVPs some the last two national title games

606
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 5: in college, football Including Will. Johnson it is The Big Red.

607
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 5: Rage paul Calvec Ron wolfley special thanks to the ASSISTANT

608
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 5: Gm Dave, sears and, yeah The Will johnson comments are.

609
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 5: Interesting speaking of the other DEFENSIVE mvp from a national title,

610
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 5: Game Cody, SIMON i thought it was really intriguing that

611
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 5: it is, elite but it's not impossible to go from

612
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 5: being the green dot in college to a green dot

613
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 5: as a rookie in THE, nfl which makes me wonder

614
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 5: if he's in competition for a Starting mike linebacker gig

615
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 5: from the get go Minus Kaizer. White but that's just

616
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 5: me thinking out, loud Wolf.

617
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: That's going to be really interesting to, Watch, paulie no

618
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: doubt about. IT i liked it when you Asked Dave

619
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: sears About Will johnson you, said when did you believe

620
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: that he was really going to be there for you

621
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: guys to pick at forty? Seven and he, said without,

622
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: hesitation after forty. SIX i mean it had to be

623
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: a shock to them a guy that is a bona

624
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: fide first round talent to be available at full.

625
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: Seven and at FIRST i thought he was, embellishing AND i, realized,

626
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 5: no he's totally. Serious and to reinforce, that here's What

627
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 5: Jonathan gannon said On Mad Dogs Sports radio When Adam

628
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 5: shine asked him about the availability Of Will johnson.

629
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 9: At Their friday End AND mani has all these algorithms

630
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 9: that he, has all the analytics people running all this,

631
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 9: stuff AND i, said what are the chances that he's

632
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 9: there in? Two and they're, like, coach like point zero,

633
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 9: Two like no. Chance, Right so when he was sitting

634
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 9: there right at, Him i'm, like, dude AM i missing?

635
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 9: Something like this is the best corner in the? Draft

636
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 9: like what are we talking? About like you, know and

637
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 9: there's a group of players that we liked and right

638
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 9: when we were, picking and that was kind of a

639
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 9: no brainer, too where like we think this guy's a

640
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 9: starting corner and you, know just the person as phenomenal as.

641
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 9: Intangibles he's very, intelligent and he really is a scheme

642
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 9: fit for us. Too so it was, like, dude, like

643
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 9: let's take that.

644
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 5: Guy see, now that's interesting this scheme. Fit on top

645
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 5: of being you, know six,' two on top of being,

646
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 5: incredibly athletic one of the top turning of recruits coming

647
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 5: out of, high school being a Two Time, all american

648
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 5: he fits the scheme.

649
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: As.

650
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 5: Well wolf you care to SPECULATE what jg means? About, That, yeah.

651
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: Paul You know i've been talking, about it just the

652
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: scheme Fit That will. Johnson is leading up to. The

653
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: draft YOU, and i as a matter, of fact had

654
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: this conversation, about him the fact that he's six to

655
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: two hundred and, two pounds but more, than that he's

656
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: a corner that plays really really well in. Zone Coverage

657
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: The arizona cardinals quarter coverage specifically four deep three underneath

658
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: rushing four that's called. Quarter coverage for the, most part

659
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: they play an awful lot, of It And will johnson

660
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: is really really good playing in his. Zone room this

661
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: is something that is, In. Eight paul it's your ability

662
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: to dissect what it is that you're seeing and row

663
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: combinations and then keeping your eyes on the quarterback and

664
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: being able to cover the receiver and make a break

665
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: on a ball unexpectedly from time. To time this Is

666
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: What will johnson Gives The. Arizona cardinals AND what i

667
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: Loved about day two was the fact that they Also Drafted,

668
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: jordan birch that kid from at six. Eighty pounds the

669
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: combination of getting edge pressure from a Guy Like jordan

670
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: burch and that resulting in a possible Pick From will

671
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: johnson is SOMETHING that i am predicting right now in the.

672
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 5: Rookie season so in that, Same Interview jonathan, gannon said

673
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 5: After the Cardinals Took, will johnson he had quote about

674
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 5: eight defensive coordinators, text, him oh you got maybe the

675
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 5: best corner in. The draft so there were a lot

676
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 5: of teams that had their Eye On will johnson and

677
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 5: we're both. In agreement cardinals probably had a lot of

678
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 5: action on the phone wanting. THAT pick, mani, said nope

679
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 5: they made the selection of, forty seven and then to,

680
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: your point at number, seventy eight They Took. Jordan burch

681
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 5: started his Career At, south carolina ended Up. At oregon this,

682
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 5: last season he played, ten games, nine starts had eight

683
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 5: and a, half sacks eleven tackles, for loss six. Passes

684
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 5: defensed he missed four games due to injury right rolled,

685
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 5: an ankle but other than that he was. Really disruptive,

686
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 5: in fact Let's let maniaciford take it. From there what

687
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 5: he Liked About, jordan.

688
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 6: Birch, size, length power ability to collapse. The pocket he

689
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 6: missed a couple, of games got dinged up with. Some

690
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 6: injuries this year was productive in the games, he played

691
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 6: played against good people and brings a unique skill set

692
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 6: for a guy who's his size and length to be

693
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 6: able to play on his feet and play out on

694
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 6: the edge of the line.

695
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 5: Of scrimmage so we mentioned how DIFFERENT the d line.

696
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 5: Room looks how about outside linebacker edge Right Now Wolf,

697
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 5: Josh sweat Xavi And Collins baron browning is back And.

698
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 5: Healthy bjojalari you can only help, You know hope. Is Healthy, xavier,

699
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 5: thomas who by, the way. Looks swoll apparently he's been winning.

700
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 5: The Offseason xavier thomas And Now jordan birch will be

701
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 5: joined at times Maybe By Mac. Wilson senior but tell

702
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 5: us how You Think jordan birch fits into that room

703
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 5: and what that means for the.

704
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: Entire, group yeah, YOU KNOW pauli i think in third

705
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: and obvious. PAST situations i think at some point in

706
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty, FIVE season i don't know if it's

707
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: from the, first GAME but i think early in, this

708
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: season at, SOME point I Think jordan birch is going

709
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: to be a guy that is playing out on. The

710
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: Edge Obviously josh sweat is going to be one of,

711
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: those guys but Opposite Of, josh sweat you might have

712
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: a just an absolute competition that you're talking about maybe

713
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: five guys that are going to be in the running

714
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: to be that. Guy OPPOSITE and i Also Think, jordan

715
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: birch because he's he's two hundred and, eighty pounds you

716
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: might want to line him up even as a three.

717
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: Technique inside but it's going to be fascinating to me

718
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: to see how they. Use him and you can say

719
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: that about so many, different Guys and polly would just

720
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: Say That nick rowlis is a guy that does some

721
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: unorthodox things from time to time in terms of scheming

722
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: up certain pass rushes. Or, coverages yes so when you

723
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: said he's a guy who, does that when You.

724
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 5: Said jordan birch in, that. Context right THE flexibility i

725
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: Thought Is zavin collins on This Show Big red rage

726
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 5: in the year saying all the different positions he was

727
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 5: Used By Nick rowlis. Zay mccollins a nearly, six' five

728
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 5: two seventy he was inside of a three technique. On

729
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 5: passing downs he's playing deep center field other times because.

730
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 5: He Can run, and i'm thinking, You Know what jordan

731
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 5: birch has a similar size, and skill set?

732
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: Does, he not, Yes, He does paul yet at, the

733
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: same Time You got walter, nolan as well and You Also.

734
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: Have darius, robinson two Guys Where is darius robinson going

735
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: to be over that that guards outside shoulder as, a

736
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: three technique especially on? Third and obvious where are the

737
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 1: pass rush reps? Gonna come from who's going to? Fill

738
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: that need it's going to be fascinating to watch that

739
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: as the. Season, on folds, Paul.

740
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 5: For example walter nolan, the third right he was known

741
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 5: for playing a boatload of snaps. AT all, miss i

742
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 5: mean he played almost the entirety, of every game and

743
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 5: That's something that cardinal's really respected about. His game film in,

744
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter he's still running. DOWN screens, downfield i

745
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 5: mean they really think he as. A great motor but

746
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 5: now instead of playing sixty, snaps a game if he's

747
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 5: playing thirty or thirty five really good snaps and he's

748
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 5: able to let it rip and you're bringing guys. In,

749
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 5: in waves right once again our big Question about. This

750
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 5: cardinals Defense Instead of nick rowlis getting to the quarterback,

751
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 5: by you know, dialing it up who? Went or where

752
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 5: if you force an, offense to answer how how can

753
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 5: you stop our dudes one on one? Four man rush

754
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 5: it just. Totally changes everything elevates the entire unit on

755
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 5: that side.

756
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: Of the ball no. Doubt. About it, paulie once again

757
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: get pressure on that quarterback and suddenly your secondary gets.

758
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: Ten times, Better, all right.

759
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 5: Hey be the first To see the cardinals twenty twenty

760
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 5: five schedule when It, Gets released, Wednesday May fourteenth go

761
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 5: todaisycardinals dot com slash schedule for all the info. And

762
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 5: the opponents guess what two sleepers who might contend for?

763
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 5: A starting spot that's Next In The big red Rage

764
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 5: Presented by Santan ford In gilbert.

765
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: Let god taking It jup n.

766
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 8: That is ER sipted in Ms.

767
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 5: Time dem zilbert the second.

768
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 4: Career interception for A.

769
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 10: Junior from phoenix, He comes down.

770
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 5: Cody sign up that's a Awful none and.

771
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 9: Rock sacked.

772
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 5: Again Third time Cody.

773
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: Simon Pips jackson d.

774
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 5: He's dropped Down Immediately.

775
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: By cody zeimer show up and Down He, Goes.

776
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 5: Cody simon i'll tell you a, lot to like a lot,

777
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 5: of intriguing players and resumes. On day three It Is

778
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 5: The big red Rage Presented by Santan Ford And, Gilbert

779
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 5: Paul Calvic ron wolfley and here's my holy can. Only

780
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 5: Stat Wolf in super, bowl fifty two, Seven years Ago Philly.

781
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 5: Beat new england there. Were eighteen starters eighteen starters who

782
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 5: are drafted in the fourth, round or lower including six. Undrafted.

783
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 5: Free agents wow so it shows you the value that

784
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 5: can be had. On day three and if you're talking,

785
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 5: About Round four cody, simon the linebacker, Round Five, Corner denzel,

786
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 5: Burke Round six hayden Connor, out of texas the, Interior Offensive,

787
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 5: lineman keaton crawford the Safety out of nevada who's spent

788
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 5: his first Four. Years at texas you see, a pattern.

789
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 5: HERE don't you i, mean big schools big time talent

790
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 5: guys who played, in big games right. In big moments

791
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 5: they all sort of have that one, thing in common?

792
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 5: Do they not now.

793
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: They do bully they are bawlers for, the most. PART

794
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: you know i Also, THINK of rabbit I think. OF

795
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: dante's stills i think of the Value That the arizona

796
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: cardinals have got from. Day three ON and when i

797
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 1: Think About, a cody simon. It's very interesting we'll see

798
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: what kind of. OPPORTUNITY he gets i Also Think, of

799
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: hayden connor taken in the sixth und and this is

800
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: a guy. That is huge, he's six six he's three hundred.

801
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: And fifteen pounds he's not going. To be wowed. He's very,

802
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: experienced of course he's a guy that played an awful,

803
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: lot in college and he's not going to be wowed

804
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: by COMING into the nfl because He played at texas

805
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: and not only who he practices against, obviously every day

806
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: but also against other teams PLAYING. In the sec so

807
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: it's going to be really interesting To See how. HAYDEN

808
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: connor does i wouldn't go to. SLEEP on him i

809
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 1: think he could be a guy that could could contribute. From,

810
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: the beginning.

811
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 5: Yeah let's talk about. Those two guys Let's Start. With

812
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 5: cody simon he was the inside linebacker six two, two

813
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 5: twenty nine ran a four to six flat forty fifty

814
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 5: Eight Games, at ohio state he started. Thirty of them

815
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 5: Four Time Academic, all big ten and here's what he

816
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 5: told the media when asked about where he'd.

817
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: LIKE to PLAY i think i can play in. Any scheme,

818
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: POSSIBLY you know i love to, be A learner and

819
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: i can just study and really prepare AS the, best

820
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: i can, And you know i'll be ready to play

821
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: with wherever. And With whoever so i'm just excited to

822
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: be able to be part of assistant that's a little

823
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: bit different and can go. To tack offenses and.

824
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 5: HE'S really, versatile i mean there's a. Stat on him

825
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 5: he's one of three players in college football history since

826
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 5: twenty twelve with one hundred plus tackles in a season

827
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 5: ago with seven sacks and, Seven passes defense so from what,

828
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 5: IT sounds, like i mean and he also had the

829
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 5: third Highest, Run defense analytic so sounds like he's great,

830
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 5: in the box but he's also pretty good in space

831
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 5: as well and getting.

832
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: After, The, quarterback yeah, pauly you know and although, he's

833
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: one fifteen not, One, oh four pauly he's one. FIFTEEN right,

834
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: there i, mean you know running a four to six

835
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: will make you one fifteen as opposed to a four

836
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: or five eight or a four. Or five, nine you

837
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: know one oh four is where you typically. Go on

838
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: that so you know he's gonna have to. Shake it

839
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 1: off i'm sure he's. Gonna BE fined but I Also

840
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: see cody simon, BEING a guy pauli that can really

841
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: help out. In transition immediately he's a guy. Who can

842
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: run he plays the. Middle linebacker position we know how

843
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: important that is for transition, and special teams being able to.

844
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: CONTRIBUTE on Teams I think cody simon is going to

845
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: be a guy right from the very beginning who is

846
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: going to be given the opportunity to make a football

847
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: team on transition and. In special teams.

848
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 5: And here's The other thing I'll Say. On, CODY simon

849
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 5: look i had a bit of A Man crushing jihad

850
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 5: cambell right, a, little bit okay and he ran a four.

851
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 5: OR five one i get it the Backer. Out Of

852
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 5: alabama the eagles trade it back into the first round.

853
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 5: To Get, him but wolf if you have superior instincts as,

854
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 5: an inside linebacker you play a lot faster than a.

855
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 5: Four to six so We'll See if cody simon is

856
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 5: that guy and the, instincts are there, then guess what all,

857
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 5: of a sudden he's making a lot of tackles like

858
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 5: he runs a.

859
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 6: Four to four if.

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Speaker 5: You're, that good Hey How. About denzel burke how much

861
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 5: do you like the fact that not only did he

862
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Speaker 5: start fifty One Games, at, ohio state right, the local

863
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 5: kid but he's gone at, least against five maybe six

864
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 5: different first round receivers just in Practice Man. At, OHIO state.

865
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, i know again it's one of the things that

866
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: comes With Going to Ohio state Or texas Or. Michigan

867
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: or oregon you're playing against guys who are basically GOING

868
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: to be nfl players at some. Point IN time so

869
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: i do. Love that experience you're not going to be

870
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 1: wowed by. It at all, and you know yet at, The,

871
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: SAME time paul i wonder about. That cornerback room think

872
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: about how well that cornerback room played Last Year with garrett,

873
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: williams Of Course and Max Melton. And star thomas those

874
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: three guys were just killer to me how. Well they

875
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: played and now all, of a sudden you're going to

876
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: throw in The Likes of Will Johnson and denzel burke

877
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: and that the competition level is going. Through THE roof

878
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: and i think that is such a great trend for

879
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: the entire. Team right Now manti asin ford has done

880
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: a great job of actually, making it competitive and this

881
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: IS something that i think is really going to show.

882
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: Up in training there.

883
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 5: Are a dozen corners Currently on, the cardinals roster so

884
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 5: you talk about a Competitive room. Called cardinals camp and

885
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 5: Then Round. Six hayden connor you mentioned him, a little

886
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 5: bit six. Six three FOURTEEN here's the gm moniasa fort

887
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 5: On how the texas Guy fits.

888
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 6: The cardinals offense, he's a, big strong guy he. Can

889
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 6: Get movement he's texas runs the, Ball a lot he's

890
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 6: played well, in that system and he holds up really

891
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 6: Well IN passbro so i think he's a good fit

892
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 6: for what we.

893
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 5: Try TO do and i brought This Up with dave

894
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 5: sears earlier. In The show the rams last year in

895
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 5: round six got Their Starting center bow Limmer out of

896
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 5: arkansas six,' five three twelve a guy who had started

897
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 5: a ton of, games over four years so many. Similarities

898
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 5: To this PICK hayden connor that i think he will,

899
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 5: be given a chance and like what, he told, The

900
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 5: meet he said i'm humble enough to. Do whatever they

901
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 5: want i'm CONFIDENT enough to think i can challenge. FOR

902
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 5: a starting spot. I, LOVE, the mentality.

903
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah pauli this is going to Be Really. INTERESTING because

904
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: hayden connor i don't think for the most part, this

905
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: is just me but watching him on some of the

906
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: some of THE highlight, tapes that i have. He's not

907
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: super athletic he's not. A really athletic guy but what he.

908
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: Is is a mauler he's a.

909
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: GUY and you.

910
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: Know, I love this THIS this. Is what i love

911
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: he's a guy who is really hyper physical at. The,

912
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: point of attack now once again you got to be able.

913
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: To keep your feet but he is a guy that

914
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: is going to. Come off the ball when you talk

915
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: about guys coming off the ball with a dark heart,

916
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: and a Painted Face. Think of hayden connor. He is

917
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: that guy so let's hope that he learns and understands

918
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: what it takes to be good in, protection first and

919
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: foremost good at his job and. Knowing what, to do

920
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: but man if he can hold up in, pass protection

921
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: at all he might be a guy that could surprise coming,

922
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: out of training.

923
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 5: Camp and then, the Seventh Round pick safety keen crawford

924
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 5: spent his First four years at Texas. Before going to

925
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 5: nevada he played a thousand snaps on special teams in

926
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 5: college wolf in his career as a guy Who Went

927
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 5: to four pro bowls. As special teams assassin what does

928
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 5: That Tell. You, about keaton crawford.

929
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: Yeah it tells me an, awful lot once again and.

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00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: IT'S not a surprise I think they drafted crawford because

931
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: of his ability. TO play in. Transition i really do.

932
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: He's a special guy he's. A guy to watch we'll

933
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: see if he gets the opportunity to, make the fifty

934
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: three but he is a guy that certainly can, help them.

935
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: In transition no, doubt.

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Speaker 5: By the way the cardinals assigned, Numbers Earlier this week walter,

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Speaker 5: nolan the, Third Number ninety seven, Will Johnson numbers zero

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Speaker 5: jordan birch, Will Be fifty two cody Simon fifty, As

939
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Speaker 5: A mike linebacker, denzel burke Twenty nine and then, Jacoby

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Speaker 5: Ber said, Seven Josh sweat ten kaleis, campbell wait, For

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Speaker 5: Baron Of pass rush baron browning. Will be, NUMBER five.

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Speaker 1: My favorite Pauli Was zero. FOR will johnson.

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