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Speaker 1: sent you. What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff Three

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Speaker 1: and Out Podcast. Hope everyone's doing well. You probably listen

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Speaker 1: to this on a Sunday morning. Happy NFL Week one.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully your team wins. Hopefully your bets cash, Hopefully spreads

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Speaker 1: are covered. Uh recording this on Saturday, you know I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't qual it quite afternoon. It's twelve fifty lunchtime. Just

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Speaker 1: watched Alabama narrowly beat Steve Sarkisian, who actually you gotta

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Speaker 1: I know you can't see me, but I'm tipping my hat.

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Speaker 1: Just had as great as career accomplishment, easily as great

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Speaker 1: Uh so, congrats to Sark and Can Congrats to the

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Speaker 1: University of Texas for achieving what they just achieved. And

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Speaker 1: Alabama wins narrowly on the road. In fairness, they don't

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Speaker 1: ever play non conference road games. They do those neutral sites,

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Speaker 1: There is nothing like the pageantry at college football. Uh

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Speaker 1: And as someone who's leary on the the expanded playoffs,

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Speaker 1: have to play each other. That that needs to be mandated,

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Speaker 1: because that's what we want. We just want big boys

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Speaker 1: you know, no, But I give them credit. They've they

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Speaker 1: and they lost. So Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: is the is the Instagram here's what you do. You

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Speaker 1: John middlecoff d MS wide Open Firing and get your

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Speaker 1: questions answered. We're gonna do a Sunday mail bag in season. Uh,

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Speaker 1: happy NFL Sunday. We'll start with James. Just listen to

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Speaker 1: your recent pod. The Max slander is ridiculous. You give

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Speaker 1: I didn't like Mac to begin with. I don't like

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Speaker 1: of him, and like Lamar Jackson right of Kyler Murray's

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Speaker 1: just to the talents, let alone the top five guys.

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Speaker 1: So it translates to any industry, right You just no

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Speaker 1: matter the training, no matter the access the information, no

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Speaker 1: matter how fast in this case you start throwing at

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Speaker 1: a young age, they're just gonna be guys that are

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Speaker 1: better than others. It's the best part about the world

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Speaker 1: we live in, you know, cream always rises, the talent

431
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Speaker 1: always separates, so you can be really good and listen

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Speaker 1: to Yeah, NFL quarterback, like Jacoby bri said, I think

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Speaker 1: he's uh average backup, yet he's starting in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: In relative to society, and relative to other football players,

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Speaker 1: he is dramatically better than them, but relative to his

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Speaker 1: own group in position at the pro level, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's probably like the best quarterback in the league. But

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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. Not a terrible theory. There

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Speaker 1: might be it's never been easier to play quarterback, just

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Speaker 1: in sense of you can't get hit, your wide receivers

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Speaker 1: can't get blasted over the middle. But it's still is

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Speaker 1: a very very very tough job to master and be

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Speaker 1: really good at, no matter how talent quote unquote talented

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Speaker 1: you are. If you look at the numbers, Davis Mills

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Speaker 1: was unequivocally better than Trevor Lawrence last season. I get

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Speaker 1: that Lawrence was dealing with a bad roster and fraud.

447
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: Meyer I added the fraud part. He said over it,

448
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Speaker 1: but the Texans are exactly aren't exactly world beaters, and

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Speaker 1: David Culley had no business being a head coach. Helped

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Speaker 1: me understand why Lawrence is still hailed as a generational

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Speaker 1: talent in future franchise quarterback. But everyone says that the

452
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Speaker 1: Texans need to be on in on Stroud or Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young and next year's draft. I'm not saying that I'm

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Speaker 1: very interested to watch Davis Mills play. Davis Mills was

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Speaker 1: a big time recruit. They went to Stanford, Davis Mills.

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Speaker 1: This is some like random overachiever from you know, San

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Speaker 1: Diego State or McNee State or UCF. Like this guy was.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure a four star quarterback. I think he's

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Speaker 1: from Texas. Like, he's not some little engine that could.

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Speaker 1: He's six five, He's got an enormous Davis Mills neck

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Speaker 1: does look a little weird, but I think he's got

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Speaker 1: a chance to be pretty good. Now how good, I mean,

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Speaker 1: time will tell, But I'm very fascinated to watch him play.

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Speaker 1: But Trevor is a much more talented player. Trevor is

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Speaker 1: better arm, he's more athletic, uh, and he's just achieved

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Speaker 1: a lot more. The other thing, Davis Davis got hurt

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Speaker 1: a lot in college. Davis did not play a lot

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Speaker 1: because he was always injured, so that has the factor

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Speaker 1: into But I'm with you. His rookie season was good,

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Speaker 1: and I know this. The Texans are not not high

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Speaker 1: on the guy. Last question loaded question here. I'm a

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Speaker 1: third year elementary pe teacher assistant high school football coach

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Speaker 1: in Massachusetts with the running back position being devalued the

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Speaker 1: past few years, no longer paying a premium and going

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Speaker 1: with a platoon of backs, and now looking like linebackers

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Speaker 1: are becoming easily replaceable as well. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: happening with the wide receiver position in the future was

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Speaker 1: so much talent? Does the market level out or are

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Speaker 1: the good guys so good that they will always separate themselves. Well,

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Speaker 1: like I said with the quarterbacks, there's always a separation

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Speaker 1: at the top, right in any industry, whether you play

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, whether you're a doctor, whether you're run a

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Speaker 1: construction company, there are always people are gonna be better

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Speaker 1: than others. But the way the world works, and listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of looking into I need to buy a

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Speaker 1: new car. It's a supply demand issue. It's we talked

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Speaker 1: about this all the time with the housing market, like

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Speaker 1: why were prices skyrocketing last year? Well, there was less

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Speaker 1: supply and there was more demand, Like there are basic

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Speaker 1: levels of economics that apply to any industry, and the

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Speaker 1: more and more like if every year is gonna produce

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Speaker 1: Seedee Lambs and Jerry Judy's and and those, we don't

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Speaker 1: even know if those guys are good yet and every

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Speaker 1: year getting three or four Jamaar chases, and Justin Jefferson's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna level out, It's gonna be easier to find them.

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Speaker 1: But we just saw the Titans move on from a J.

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Speaker 1: Brown and now they don't know if trailing Burks is good,

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Speaker 1: But if like trailing Brooks in a two years is

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Speaker 1: really good, like they made the right decision because economically

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Speaker 1: they saved a bunch of money. They replaced them. But

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Speaker 1: they get a guy in a you know, on a

502
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Speaker 1: fifth year option, long term contract. A J. Brown costa premium.

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Speaker 1: They basically bought low and sold high. So the difference

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Speaker 1: here is you're dealing with human beings. So no matter

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Speaker 1: how much you think you guys gonna be good, you

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Speaker 1: never know, right. I mean, the Eagles didn't think Jalen

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Speaker 1: Reagor was gonna suck when they took him pick one,

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Speaker 1: but two years later that pick was a disaster. Asked

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Speaker 1: the second part of this question, then we'll be done.

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Speaker 1: If the wide receiver edge rusher, I'm thinking most valuable

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Speaker 1: outside of quarterback are demanding top dollar. Could you see

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Speaker 1: a player taking a short term deal with max money

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Speaker 1: like Rogers did knowing the capital increase and then renegotiating

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Speaker 1: for more and more, or do you have to play

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Speaker 1: it cautious and take the guaranteed money. That's what football

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Speaker 1: has over all these players non quarterback is Trent Williams,

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Speaker 1: for example, Trent Williams is worth like thirty five million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year easy. But when he was a free agent,

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Speaker 1: what's he gonna do like play on a year to

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Speaker 1: year contracts million dollars he has offers its sixty plus

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Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. He just it's I remember being living

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and they were talking about Cole Hamiles was

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Speaker 1: going to hit the free agent market, and I remember

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Speaker 1: hearing like, Buster, only your Peter Gammon's it's easy to say,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the situation out for the guy that

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a hundred twenty five million dollars sitting in

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Speaker 1: front of him. So Deebo Samuel Wright, he wanted a

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Speaker 1: ton of money. He wanted uh Tyreek Kill and Davante

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Speaker 1: Adams money. And then the forty Niners put whatever it was,

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Speaker 1: sixty eight million dollars in front of him, Like what's

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Speaker 1: he gonna do? Not sign that? Like, here's fifty eight

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Speaker 1: million dollars debot, you've made a total of three and

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Speaker 1: a half million dollars in your career. Money is all relative, too,

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Speaker 1: So if you're making a hunter grand, you know what,

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Speaker 1: if I put five million dollars in front of you,

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Speaker 1: it's easy to be like, well, if I play this out,

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Speaker 1: maybe I can make nine. Well maybe you could, or

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Speaker 1: maybe it could blow up in your face. So you

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Speaker 1: gotta have Like there's a number I remember having this

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Speaker 1: really really smart guy tell me about investing in stocks.

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Speaker 1: If you're investing a lot of money in a stock

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Speaker 1: and you think it's gonna be a five bagger or

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00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: ten bagger or a three bagger whatever, you buy it

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Speaker 1: at ten bucks. If you don't have a plan of

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Speaker 1: attack and write down a number, like are you willing

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Speaker 1: to sell? Like if I invest, let's just pick an

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Speaker 1: even number, fifty grand at ten dollars, you have to

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Speaker 1: write down like, if that stock goes to thirty dollars,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna sell and take your profit, because if you don't,

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Speaker 1: you'll be You'll get to thirty dollars and you go,

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Speaker 1: this thing go to fifty and then hell it might

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Speaker 1: get to fifty and you'll be like this thing get

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Speaker 1: to a hundred, all of a sudden something happens. Recession,

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00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: it happens, and that ten dollar stock is now at

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Speaker 1: four and you're losing your ass. So I think you

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Speaker 1: have to approach the same thing as a player like

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. You're gonna turn down a hundred sixty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars Lamar, which I commend. I say it all

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Speaker 1: the time. I'm as big of a proponent and have

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Speaker 1: as much admiration for people with balls and people betting

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Speaker 1: on themselves as anybody. I'll probably never get a W

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Speaker 1: two the rest of my life. I don't care. But

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Speaker 1: there is an element to business that is you gotta

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Speaker 1: take the emotion out of it and be black and

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Speaker 1: white like Lamar. Hundred sixty five million dollars. You were

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Speaker 1: the thirty second pick. How much does Lamar made six

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Speaker 1: seven million dollars? Hundred sixty five million dollars. What if

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Speaker 1: someone falls on your leg in one of these games

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00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: snaps and you can never run around again. What if

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00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: that happens, you will lose a hundred and sixty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars. Even if you want a factory and he's

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Speaker 1: making whatever twenty three this year so the number is

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Speaker 1: a hundred and forty million dollars, Like there is a

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Speaker 1: time where and I battle with this sometimes too, Like

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Speaker 1: am I get and screwed in this deal? Is this fair?

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Speaker 1: And then if you take a deep breath, take a

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Speaker 1: step back and be like, listen, it's all everyone's profiting here.

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00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: We're all doing well in anything, in any deal you're

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Speaker 1: involved in. Because it's easy to get in your own

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Speaker 1: head and just just think about yourself. But when like

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00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: it takes two to tango, like, hey, Lamar, are the

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00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: Ravens ever gonna offer you two hun a million dollars

583
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Speaker 1: to be like, well, he's betting on himself getting a

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Speaker 1: free agency. He's not getting the free agency he's got

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Speaker 1: this year. Then they got a franchise, tack, Then they

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00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: got another franchise, Tach, He's got nowhere to go. This

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Speaker 1: isn't baseball, This is in the NBA. This is a league.

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00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: This is a team run or you know operation. The

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Speaker 1: teams have the juice. Kirk Cousins played it out, but

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Speaker 1: it took him years. And Lamar different than kirk Cousins,

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00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: Like he runs around and you can argue last year

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Speaker 1: he got hurt, you know, in the pocket or behind

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. But still it's it's football. It's

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Speaker 1: a dangerous game. Should he get he could tear an

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Speaker 1: achilles training, So I think he's got to be very

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Speaker 1: very careful. Uh well, I know he's not. I think

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Speaker 1: he's I think he's insane. I think Lamar Jackson made

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Speaker 1: a moronic bus. This decision couldn't have made a worst

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00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: business decision turning down unless they're offering him eighty million dollars,

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Speaker 1: but all reports arts over a hundred sixty million dollars guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: You can't turn down that time money. You just you can't, not,

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00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: not with the risk reward. It just does not pencil.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'll never believe it. Um. I appreciate everyone listen.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys have a good Sunday and talk to

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Speaker 1: everyone soon. Subscribe to the podcast three and out. Also

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff mailback that's this show at Jil Middlecoff Peace the

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