WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Rookie Tests

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? Ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 5>right with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and

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<v Speaker 5>Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 4>It is Wednesday, September fourth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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<v Speaker 4>episode number twenty two. Welcome to the latest edition Off

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<v Speaker 4>the Break. We are alive from the s WBC Mortgage

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the show. How everybody doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you tired?

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<v Speaker 2>One of those?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that? What that is?

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<v Speaker 6>It's been raining since it was since early morning?

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<v Speaker 7>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 6>Do some means you should be home wrapped up in

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<v Speaker 6>the blanket watching TV?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe you? I'm excited. It's week one. The NFL season

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<v Speaker 4>should be nowhere but right here talking Cowboys football heading

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<v Speaker 4>into week one. Actually the first game. The NFL starts

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<v Speaker 4>tomorrow night. I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 8>Crazy another one Friday. That's gonna be goofy, but it's

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<v Speaker 8>gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know. I'm actually heading out to uh

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<v Speaker 4>in Arbor, so Friday night I'll be doing Texas type things.

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<v Speaker 4>But but yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>The commitment for week one, you know, it is not

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<v Speaker 6>this commitment.

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<v Speaker 4>It is. It absolutely is. And when I saw when

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<v Speaker 4>I first saw the schedule come out, and I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>week one, Cleveland and Arbor and Cleveland aren't that far apart.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I'm there. So I'm going up watch my Longhorns.

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<v Speaker 4>On Saturday. I will drive two and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 4>Me and Clarence Hill. We're going to get in the

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<v Speaker 4>car and drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Why you left? You might all then why are you left?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you saying this isn't responsible?

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<v Speaker 2>Clarence? She just might take it into a ditch.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I'm not gonna let you talk about my brother

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<v Speaker 4>like that. We're gonna take it. We're gonna drive on

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<v Speaker 4>down there safely, and then Sunday we'll be able to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>About two hours. We're never gonna get back in new life.

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<v Speaker 8>That'll be a fun weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh We're gonna have a blast. A lot of our

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<v Speaker 4>frat brothers are going down Goods.

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<v Speaker 2>An impressive place to go watch a college football game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and well I've never been. That's the thing big,

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<v Speaker 4>That atmosphere is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>When you get a chance to go to the Big

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<v Speaker 4>House and watch your team play if you're not in

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<v Speaker 4>the Big tens, Yeah, I'm very excited about it. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>let's talk to some Cowboys football.

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<v Speaker 9>Though.

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<v Speaker 4>I got a message from Brian this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he called me out there until a meeting and

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<v Speaker 4>he calls me and he's like, he leaves a message

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<v Speaker 4>and he's like, hey, I got a question that I

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<v Speaker 4>want to open the show with. You'll go you're okay

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<v Speaker 4>with that? And my heart just sank, Like, oh God,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what Brian's gonna ask us, but I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, sure, let's go for it.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna live dangerously, so Brian, let's let's delve into

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<v Speaker 4>the let's delve into the mind of Brian brought us

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<v Speaker 4>and uh and what question do you have.

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<v Speaker 2>For Thank you very much, Derek. I appreciate you allowing

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<v Speaker 2>me to do this. Nick Harris Okay of Guidon BB

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<v Speaker 2>Carsonneeland power rank the order that you need the most

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<v Speaker 2>importance to the least importance, and how they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>play are how you're going to need them to play

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<v Speaker 2>going forward in this game.

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<v Speaker 8>Week one specifically, Yes, okay, I'm gonna take I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 8>take giton one. I think he needs to have a

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<v Speaker 8>strong showing against Miles Garrett. There's got to be some

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<v Speaker 8>protection off the edge, not only for past protection, but

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<v Speaker 8>to be able to seal off the edge as well

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<v Speaker 8>in the running game. They're gonna need to find some

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<v Speaker 8>some confidence there. Two. I'm gonna go Kaylan Carson. They

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<v Speaker 8>do have these receiving threats. If Deshaun Watson is playing healthy,

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<v Speaker 8>obviously that's a big question mark, then they are gonna

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<v Speaker 8>go after Kayln Carson early on in this game, and

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<v Speaker 8>they are going to try and attack that rookie. If

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<v Speaker 8>he can show early on, hey I'm no slouch, then

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<v Speaker 8>that that would be huge towards the defensive success. Three

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<v Speaker 8>BB four Kneeland. That's that's how I would rank him.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would why would you would have BB third?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I would go BB over Niland running game. Once again,

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<v Speaker 8>there's a lot of experience in that interior defensive line

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<v Speaker 8>for the Browns. I mentioned yesterday, guys with eight, nine,

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<v Speaker 8>ten years of experience, Shelby Harrison, there, Tomlinson. There's some

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<v Speaker 8>guys that he's gonna have to be able to stack

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<v Speaker 8>up against and push forward. We didn't see that a

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<v Speaker 8>whole lot last year from Tyler Battish. So if he

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<v Speaker 8>can get that get after it in the run game,

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<v Speaker 8>then I think they find some success there on the

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<v Speaker 8>run game. But that's a big if. But those three

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<v Speaker 8>very little separation there, and then I probably have Kneeland

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<v Speaker 8>down here. He still needs to perform, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 8>but I think these three guys it's very important that

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<v Speaker 8>those three guys produces man.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, my order was exactly the same. I started with

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<v Speaker 4>Geyton mainly because I got a quarterback back there I

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<v Speaker 4>need to protect, and you got, in my opinion, the

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<v Speaker 4>best most fearsome pass rusher in the NFL opposite him,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that that becomes that's the first thing they

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<v Speaker 4>gotta do, is they gotta shore that up. Then I

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<v Speaker 4>put Carson mainly because I think that'll be if I'm

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<v Speaker 4>the opposing offense, I'm going to be like the first

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<v Speaker 4>person I want to test and see how good they are.

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<v Speaker 4>Is Carson. I know I've they've probably heard all the

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<v Speaker 4>things we've said about this guy and how good he's

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<v Speaker 4>been in camp, but they want to see and I

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<v Speaker 4>would guess they're going to try to look for opportunities

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<v Speaker 4>to get their veteran Amari Cooper lined up against him

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<v Speaker 4>in situations where you really get to test him. And

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<v Speaker 4>that's going to test him because we know Mari Cooper

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<v Speaker 4>is a guy that runs crisp routes, knows how to

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<v Speaker 4>get to the spot he needs to get to. Going

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<v Speaker 4>up against a rookie, that's going to be a lesson,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that's going to be the second one. And

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<v Speaker 4>then it's b Be for a reason that you talked

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<v Speaker 4>about Brian yesterday. If this running game is going to

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<v Speaker 4>be successful, its success is really going to come from

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that they will have power up the middle right,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think bb is important. He's critical to that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I want to see if he can continue what

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen from him and be able to do that

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<v Speaker 4>in real live games. And then Nilan. The main reason

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<v Speaker 4>why Niland is for is because he didn't have to start.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a rotational guy. These other guys they're starting, and

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<v Speaker 4>quite frankly, before we on there, we talked about this.

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<v Speaker 4>I was talking to one of our PR guys and

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<v Speaker 4>they're trying to get the actual stat for me of

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<v Speaker 4>when was the last time the Cowboys had this many

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<v Speaker 4>rookies starting on week one? Right now, according to the

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<v Speaker 4>unofficial depth chart, there are four rookies that could possibly start.

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<v Speaker 4>Three of these guiding Carson, Bibi, and then Mary sla

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<v Speaker 4>lea foul will see. He's a base defense guy, so

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see if they started Nickel or in Basse. But however,

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<v Speaker 4>it goes three to four rookies starting in week one

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<v Speaker 4>of a season, it seems like a large number to me,

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<v Speaker 4>And so I think Niland is in that mix because

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<v Speaker 4>he's gonna play quite a bit as a rotational guy.

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<v Speaker 4>But you don't need him as a starter. You got

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<v Speaker 4>two very very capable pass rushers ahead of him on

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<v Speaker 4>the depth chart.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, g I wish I could give you a different answer,

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<v Speaker 6>but I'm on the same page as to you, guys,

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<v Speaker 6>And the thing is the only reason I'm putting Carson

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<v Speaker 6>before BB. So I do think guys in for sure,

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<v Speaker 6>And the only reason Carson is number two is because

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<v Speaker 6>I'm still I still have question marks with Trevon Dick's return.

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<v Speaker 6>And again, he's looked really good. He looks really really

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<v Speaker 6>good in practice and he's moving around really well. But

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<v Speaker 6>we know that one thing is practiced and another thing

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<v Speaker 6>is a real game. So I'm still kinda keeping my

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<v Speaker 6>eye on that. We tend to see when players come

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<v Speaker 6>back from an injury that sometimes it takes them a while,

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<v Speaker 6>sometimes even a whole year for them to get back

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<v Speaker 6>into how they used to be. So I think the

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<v Speaker 6>backfield defensive backs is gonna be an area where they're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna have everybody's gonna have to bring their a game

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<v Speaker 6>this time. And I think Carson is the guy obviously

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<v Speaker 6>being a rookie coming into a game like that, it's

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<v Speaker 6>gonna be a big moment for him. But same thing

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<v Speaker 6>then Bibi and then Nielan, mainly because of the position

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<v Speaker 6>that it is. For Kneelan, I mean, you're not you

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<v Speaker 6>have depth there, you have more guys that you can

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<v Speaker 6>rely on. But Bibe, I mean he's still that's a

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<v Speaker 6>that's a key position for sure. But I would say

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<v Speaker 6>based on Trevon Diggs and what you're missing with their

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<v Speaker 6>own blind Carson is number two.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all starts with BB.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys, all right, BBS number one, one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, BB's number one.

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<v Speaker 6>It's funny because when you you know Brian and if

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<v Speaker 6>for those if you're not watching, Brian's listening to all

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<v Speaker 6>of us giving giving us an answer, He's like smiling, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I got this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know. To me though, it all starts with

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<v Speaker 2>BB really up front, you know, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>at Kansas State he didn't play any center. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a total projection for him, but he's done

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<v Speaker 2>a nice job. You think about the snaps, you think

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<v Speaker 2>about the calls, you think about the protections, all that

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<v Speaker 2>stuff with Geiton all that's all that's predicated on communication

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<v Speaker 2>between Dak and Bebee, who they identify the mic backer.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they're gonna slide this thing, chip this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they're going to do. Carson's number two in this

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<v Speaker 2>thing too, and you're absolutely right there because they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>try and match you up is what they're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you this. Knowing Jim Swartz the way

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<v Speaker 2>I do in Cleveland and talking to some people who

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<v Speaker 2>know Jim Swartz, I asked this morning, this guy said,

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<v Speaker 2>how does he attack? He says, watch Swartz. He knows

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<v Speaker 2>that Geyiton's going to get help this game. He's going

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<v Speaker 2>after Steele. He's going to see if Steele with Miles

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<v Speaker 2>Garrett can win one on one. And he feels like

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<v Speaker 2>if you watch Steel play, sometimes there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a lack of power there. The one thing Steel

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<v Speaker 2>is really good at and he's got better at because

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<v Speaker 2>his health is returned, is his ability to move keep

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<v Speaker 2>somebody wide. But if he has to play with a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that has power, sometimes that guy will dip on

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<v Speaker 2>him and take him to that quarterback and it'll be

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a problem. Schwartz knows that Swartz

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<v Speaker 2>knows that Guidon's going to get all the help. They're

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<v Speaker 2>worried about the rookie. I would wouldn't be surprised if

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<v Speaker 2>we see Geyiton be okay, now, there'll be some rushes

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<v Speaker 2>over there where. I believe that you'll see Miles Garrett

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<v Speaker 2>because he's a right in player, you know, and when

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<v Speaker 2>we get into them tomorrow we'll talk about it more.

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<v Speaker 2>But he is a right in player, but you see

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<v Speaker 2>him also. I would also anticipate I would also to

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<v Speaker 2>pate uh the two guards getting covered in this one,

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<v Speaker 2>and then also Miles Garrett one on one with BB.

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<v Speaker 2>That where I think that could be a pressure point

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<v Speaker 2>for this team as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Real quick, for those that may not understand, explain what

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<v Speaker 4>you mean when you say to two guards being covered.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what they could do is that when when when

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<v Speaker 2>guys are uncovered, you're you can help, You can slide,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do things. If Martin's uncovered, he could slide

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<v Speaker 2>and help if he's covered.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you when you say covered, you mean guy

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<v Speaker 4>on him, on him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if they if they, if they cover everybody across

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<v Speaker 2>the front and then eliminate. It's hard to chip on

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<v Speaker 2>a guy when he's in the middle of the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>So all of a sudden, that might be a pressure

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<v Speaker 2>point for you because then it turns into one on

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<v Speaker 2>one with BB versus Miles Garrett in this game. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think that it's like I say, BB and then

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<v Speaker 2>go down from there. But but Carson in this game

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<v Speaker 2>is going to have to play big. He's really gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to play big big. But the thing about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll get into and I'll let you now segue

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<v Speaker 2>into Brian tell me about the Browns offense here or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that, they're.

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<v Speaker 8>Just taking all your responsibilities today.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, actually that's a great question because I really literally

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<v Speaker 4>before this show, I was talking to PR about those

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<v Speaker 4>rookies and I think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the dirty I think it's a dirty dozen things

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<v Speaker 2>from the seventies. I think the Landry drafty it was

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<v Speaker 2>the Randy White draft that they called the group the

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<v Speaker 2>Dirty dozen, And I want to say, if I just

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<v Speaker 2>had to go off the top of my head, that

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<v Speaker 2>was several of those guys, and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they all started, but it was a very good draft

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<v Speaker 2>class for them.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's the thing. Like we talk a lot on

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<v Speaker 4>this show. We talk a lot on our draft show

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<v Speaker 4>about how well this team drafts and and they've drafted.

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<v Speaker 4>We think they've drafted well. But to get to the

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<v Speaker 4>point where you have that many guys in their first

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<v Speaker 4>season starting game one, I mean, that's that's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>where the Cowboys are in their salary cap as well.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just an indicator over.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they barely did anything in free agency, so you're

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<v Speaker 6>left to having to rely on these young guys.

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<v Speaker 2>What about our bad teams that we had in early

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<v Speaker 2>two thousands, Derek where it was Derek Ross, Antonio Bryant.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say that we had a we had

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<v Speaker 2>a draft class there where a lot of those cats

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<v Speaker 2>had to play. Yeah, and I'm trying to remember all

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<v Speaker 2>of them mine. I sometimes I can, sometimes I can't,

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<v Speaker 2>But I just remember that class we had where Derrick

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<v Speaker 2>Ross was the starter, Antonio Brien was the starter. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure there's at.

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<v Speaker 4>The break was at two thousand, two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 2>Two thousand and one, Yeah, I think that, but that

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<v Speaker 2>was that was a class where it might have been two,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was. It was a class where that several

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<v Speaker 2>of those guys had to start just because we could

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<v Speaker 2>look at it the break. Yeah, if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>get into some other stuff. So thank you for the question.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the answer so overall good answer for the

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<v Speaker 4>here's what we're doing. Brian's gonna give us a breakdown.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys remember from last year we do this every Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 4>We will have Brian break down the opposing team's offense

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<v Speaker 4>versus the Cowboys defense and then on Thursday, we'll have

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<v Speaker 4>Brian break down the opposing team's defense versus the Cowboys offense.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what we do every week here.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm nervous about this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian, jump in if you got a question.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, I actually did want to start with

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<v Speaker 4>a question I was looking at. I was looking at

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<v Speaker 4>some information on the Browns offense, and obviously it starts

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<v Speaker 4>with their quarterback Sean Watson. Last year, he was fourth

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<v Speaker 4>lowest in completion percentage in the NFL when over one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty passes. My question for you was that

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<v Speaker 4>more about Watson or was it more about his receiving

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<v Speaker 4>options Watson.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this guy is not an accurate thrower. He's got

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<v Speaker 2>a really strong arm though. I mean I was watching

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<v Speaker 2>the one of the games before he got injured, the

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee game where they played, and he can make the

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<v Speaker 2>throw standing in the middle of the pocket and throw

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<v Speaker 2>it all the way to the left or right sideline,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean on a deep shot on the outs. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's got the arm strength. The problem with him is

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<v Speaker 2>he's not always accurate, and a lot of it has

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<v Speaker 2>to do with mechanics. His feet don't always get set,

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<v Speaker 2>but they tend to try and play to his strengths

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<v Speaker 2>of moving him. He's very anxious about getting out of

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<v Speaker 2>the pocket and kind of moving and sometimes he'll move

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<v Speaker 2>when he doesn't have to move, and then that'll affect

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<v Speaker 2>the way that he throws the football, and so you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see receivers it's the ball doesn't always go down the

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<v Speaker 2>field with him. It's they try with the waggles and

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<v Speaker 2>the boots. I know that's the phrase and we always

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<v Speaker 2>use where it's send the offensive line one way, let

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<v Speaker 2>him come back the other way, and Joku and Joku

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<v Speaker 2>the tight end is going to catch it in the flat,

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to catch it underneath. They're trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>as many simple throws. You mentioned the thing with a

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<v Speaker 2>Marii Cooper. We all understand who Mary Cooper is, and

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<v Speaker 2>you gave a very good description of how a Mary

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper plays. They play him on the outside. They put

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<v Speaker 2>a Mariy Cooper in the slot. He's very measured with

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<v Speaker 2>the way that he runs his routes and then he's measured.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the best if you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>statistics or you look at metrics, he's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best receivers along the sidelines when there's little or no space.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of the top receivers. So when you think

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<v Speaker 2>you have him covered and you've got him all the

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<v Speaker 2>way pin to the sidelines, you still got to cover

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<v Speaker 2>him because great body control, great balance and all those things.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see what happens with with with Judy. They

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<v Speaker 2>added him with a trade this year. This is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a make or break year for him as well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, coming from Denver. So But the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>you're to your question, it's more about Watson's accuracy or

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<v Speaker 2>lack of that has caused them promise. They threw the

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<v Speaker 2>ball when Joe Flacco was in there, the ball was

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<v Speaker 2>going down the field. I mean, Joe Flacco is like

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<v Speaker 2>under center, play action downfield, play action downfield. They their

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<v Speaker 2>offense was better. Now they lost a key member of

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<v Speaker 2>their offensive coaching staff. We talked about Bill Callahan. I

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<v Speaker 2>gave him the nickname running Game Moses because everywhere he's

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<v Speaker 2>been the offensive line play is great. They run the

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<v Speaker 2>football and all that. You know. Uh, they got to

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<v Speaker 2>coach Dickerson from the Seahawks that had been with them before.

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<v Speaker 2>Seahawks are team that has some physicality with the way

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<v Speaker 2>that they run the ball. We've all played the Seahawks,

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<v Speaker 2>we know how they play, so I'll be interested to

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<v Speaker 2>see and how in fact that it works out for there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're gonna have to be ready for some

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<v Speaker 2>screen package stuff. In this they ran a double reverse screen,

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<v Speaker 2>which it was. It was a pretty play, uh with

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<v Speaker 2>the with you know, you get the reverse and then

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<v Speaker 2>the first guy with the ball now ends up being

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that catches the ball with blockers in front.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got tied end delays, you got running back delays,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've got then also the double reverse. But the

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<v Speaker 2>tight the these screen packages are something that they like

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<v Speaker 2>to go with. They'll they'll try and move you around,

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<v Speaker 2>send you one way and then come back the other

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<v Speaker 2>to throw the football. So, uh, you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be really really ready for that. I

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<v Speaker 2>think in the offensive line, they've got questions with their tackles,

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<v Speaker 2>the health of their tackles right now, so both of

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<v Speaker 2>them coming back from major knee injuries. We'll see if,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, though that Dallas with some of some speed,

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<v Speaker 2>some quickness there, that maybe these guys aren't up to

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<v Speaker 2>snuff when it comes to their sets. Getting away from

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<v Speaker 2>the line. You know, the Cowboys need to take advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of any of that kind of injury stuff that they

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<v Speaker 2>could deal with, especially very early in guys really not

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<v Speaker 2>having a lot of work in training camp. These tackles

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<v Speaker 2>haven't had a lot of work, so playing out there,

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<v Speaker 2>there's some questions about whether some of these guys are

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<v Speaker 2>going to start so but I feel like though, too,

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<v Speaker 2>you can overpower their inside guys. Postic the center, tell

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<v Speaker 2>her the right guard, and Botonio the left guard. I

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<v Speaker 2>especially feel like that Teller is the guy that gives

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<v Speaker 2>up the most ground, and if you could take him

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<v Speaker 2>back into Watson, that affects Watson because as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>Watson feels it, he's gonna bail. Talk about and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>having to play a little bit of contain around Wats.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen that when you've played.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the PTSD from early on in his career in Houston. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>he was just bailing as soon as he saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything everything, Yeah, hit this offensive line. You know, for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part when he was playing, he was every

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<v Speaker 2>time there was a pressure and I watched all the

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<v Speaker 2>pressures and I'm like, how's this guy handling and he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't handle it particularly well. But I kind of feel

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<v Speaker 2>like though questions that they're tackle spots with health, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think you could bully their center uh posk And

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<v Speaker 2>I think you could bully Teller the right guard and

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<v Speaker 2>that might be that might be a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>an area that of a sticking point for them to

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<v Speaker 2>try and protect that way. They're tight end and Jokuho,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, is really a good tight end. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to be ready for him in the flat that's where

0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.760
<v Speaker 2>he makes a lot of his play. So mixing coverages

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<v Speaker 2>on him, I think will be key. Do you put

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do you walk Lewis over there maybe to

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<v Speaker 2>cover him? Do you walk you know, do you bring

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<v Speaker 2>h mcqualmoo in, maybe a big guy cover him right there?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? I think you just kind of got to

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<v Speaker 2>give him a bunch of different looks and make Watson

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<v Speaker 2>half to read your defense. If Dak Prescott's having struggles

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<v Speaker 2>reading this Mike Zimber defense at practice, my man Watson's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have some problems as well doing the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me let me take you back to Watson, and

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<v Speaker 4>I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was good a really he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a great career. When he was with Bill O'Brien, at Houston.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, But and that's kind of where I'm going. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to find out what are the differences if there

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<v Speaker 4>are any talk about his accuracy, accuracy, talk us to

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<v Speaker 4>the differences in how he plays before all the stuff

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<v Speaker 4>happened in Houston, when he was playing at a level

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<v Speaker 4>that we all thought he was going to be an

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<v Speaker 4>All Pro kind of player for many years, to where

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<v Speaker 4>he is now in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just seems like to me in Cleveland, he

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<v Speaker 2>just hasn't got a grasp of what they're trying to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're trying to find ways to take advantage of

0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:49.000
<v Speaker 2>his athletic ability. I mentioned the accuracy. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>call offensive plays when your quarterback is throwing the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>We know what Amari Cooper is. Mary Cooper can like

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<v Speaker 2>catch the ball off his shoe, tops Amari Cooper can

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 2>catch the ball over his head. It's a amazing to

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<v Speaker 2>watch these receivers have to work for the football, especially

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.959
<v Speaker 2>when they're open. Now they're running acrossing routes and then

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 2>and the ball is like low and it's it's it's

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:13.320
<v Speaker 2>almost like watching Trey Lance throw the ball that sometimes

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.120
<v Speaker 2>he's just on target and then other times it's like, well,

0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 2>that's behind the guy and now the guy doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity, or or that was just a terrible throw,

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<v Speaker 2>or he didn't really step up in the pocket and

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<v Speaker 2>make it. Throw at Houston seemed like he had a

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<v Speaker 2>better handle on trying to get the ball to his guys.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a better and I'm not saying that had

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<v Speaker 2>a better plan, but it looks like to me that

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<v Speaker 2>this this this Brown's offensive staff. And we'll see with

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Ken Dorsey, he's the new OC, but he's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to call the place Kevin Stephanik's going to call be

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<v Speaker 2>the primary play car. But we saw what Ken Dorsey

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<v Speaker 2>was able to do with Josh Allen at Buffalo, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, there was some accuracy problems coming out

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.399
<v Speaker 2>of college and Nick you might remember and watching watching

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:58.679
<v Speaker 2>Josh Allen play at Wyoming, you know there was some

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Now again he's throwing the ranchers and pharmacists and accountants, niners. Yeah,

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 2>he's throwing to like tough guys, you know, but guys

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 2>that probably aren't playing in the NFL, right. But Ken

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<v Speaker 2>Dorsey was able to kind of find something with Josh

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<v Speaker 2>Allen there, and that's probably the hope that maybe that

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<v Speaker 2>his ability to work with quarterbacks that aren't very accurate

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<v Speaker 2>might pay dividends. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>The thing for me, when I look at this this

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.720
<v Speaker 8>Browns offense and I'm trying to identify the problems here,

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<v Speaker 8>I see I see a whole obviously at running back,

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<v Speaker 8>but I understand that this is a play caller. This

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<v Speaker 8>is a system, like we mentioned yesterday, that gets running

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 8>backs and gets ball carriers out in space and they

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<v Speaker 8>figure out how to get those four and a half

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<v Speaker 8>yards per carry. So for me, I see that as yes, okay,

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 8>that's going to be what it is. But I'm looking

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 8>at this receiving corps. I mean, you have a Marii

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.399
<v Speaker 8>Cooper who proved last year, especially on the back end

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<v Speaker 8>as he started to pick up some rhythm with Joe Flacco,

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<v Speaker 8>that he can be a danger. If you have a

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 8>healthy Deshaun Watson throwing him the ball, I think there's

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 8>there's problems there. But throw Amari Cooper out of this situation.

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<v Speaker 8>You're bringing in a possession guy and Jerry Judy you

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 8>don't really know what he's going to bring to this

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.880
<v Speaker 8>offense from that possession perspective, And then you have two

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<v Speaker 8>very young guys who could be guys that take off

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 8>for a sixty yard touchdown. I'm looking at David Bell

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<v Speaker 8>and I'm looking at Jamari Thrash. Both of these guys

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 8>are guys that can take a ball out in space

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 8>and make some guys look like fools. So this is

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:24.959
<v Speaker 8>a dangerous, dangerous receiving core that I think should definitely

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.120
<v Speaker 8>be accounted for because these are guys that can flip

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 8>a game on their head, right, just like that. Jamary Thrash,

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 8>rookie out of Louisville. I really liked him in the

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<v Speaker 8>draft process. And David Bell, he's heading into his third

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<v Speaker 8>year out of Purdue, one of the most electric players

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<v Speaker 8>in Purdue history, and he's had some moments early on

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<v Speaker 8>in his NFL career. But these are two guys that, like,

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<v Speaker 8>I want to know where they are on the field,

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<v Speaker 8>if they take the field.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had to, if you had to take away

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<v Speaker 2>one thing, and we don't know. With Ford, Ford has

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 2>had some cape of the running back there has had.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, having Chubb out of the lineup is a

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 2>huge help for the cowboy out but he.

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<v Speaker 4>Was pretty Ford's pretty Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>With Ford, if you could say I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 2>away their running game or I'm gonna take away their path.

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<v Speaker 2>Which one do you want them to do?

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<v Speaker 8>I want them to pass, I want them to especially

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<v Speaker 8>with Deshaun Watson has not played at all in a

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.160
<v Speaker 8>game environment since that shoulder injury last year. I want

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<v Speaker 8>if I'm if I'm the defensive coordinator, if I'm Mike Zimmer,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm saying, I want you to show me that you

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<v Speaker 8>can throw the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>So where do you classify? Where do you classify his

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<v Speaker 4>ability to take off and run.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's going to be the issue. That's we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the contain and having to try and keep him.

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Remember when we always talked about playing the Seahawks. Heck,

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 2>it's you play Hurts or you play say and Jack

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore Jack, And all of a sudden you think, how

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 2>do you play? And remember remember when it was with

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Russell Wilson, his threat of attacking the line and running

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 2>and doing all that, it was make him play backwards,

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:58.360
<v Speaker 2>make him have to keep dropping back, don't give him

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<v Speaker 2>any avenue to be able to escape, because if he

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 2>does escape, and we'll see how much of a threat

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 2>he really wants to be running the ball, especially with

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 2>the bad shoulder or shoulder history. Uh, but yeah, it contain.

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:14.679
<v Speaker 2>And then find a way to make him have to

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 2>throw this ball from the pocket playing backwards, I think

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 2>will really really.

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<v Speaker 6>Help you also you I mean, I think it is

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 6>important for the defensive line to put that pressure right

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 6>off the bat, because I do think with someone that's

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:29.960
<v Speaker 6>coming off an injury, and obviously you never want to

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 6>hurt the player or wish anything bad on somebody.

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:41.320
<v Speaker 2>You know name by the way, interviewed.

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 4>At a supers with somebody's baby, McCaffrey was not too kind,

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 4>learned my lesson.

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<v Speaker 6>My point is, my point is you do if you

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<v Speaker 6>get to him a few times right off the bat

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.760
<v Speaker 6>and and and sack him, you you immediately just start

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 6>putting that in his head and it's gonna maybe prevent

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 6>him from want to run or let him or allow

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 6>him to do that throughout the game. So I think

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 6>you have to set the tone right off the bat.

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 6>And then also with the guys being so good at

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 6>the defensive backs and everybody back there being so good

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 6>at creating turnovers and catching them, I think that's a

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:23.719
<v Speaker 6>big opportunity to it's not accurate to be able to

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 6>get some of those turnovers in this game as well.

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<v Speaker 8>I know I mentioned those receivers and those are obviously

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 8>a part of the game. But this game, specifically on

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 8>both sides of the ball, is going to be one

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 8>of the trenches. There is no doubt about it. If

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 8>you're looking at it from this perspective, from the Cowboys

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 8>defense versus a Browns offense, I think they're gonna get

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 8>after Deshaun Watson. You look at the advantages that the

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 8>Cowboys defensive line has. I think they can get around

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 8>these sackles. I think that they can steal off those

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 8>edges and not allow Deshaun Watson to escape, and if

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.680
<v Speaker 8>he does, I feel confident in that linebacking court to

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 8>step up and make a playoffs.

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you want to say something super positive about

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Dallas's defense this year, it's the linebackers, those cats.

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 4>Which is so interesting after the last year.

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Well you know what it took, not playing with any

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 2>for a whole year, and all of a sudden, when

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 2>we were doing the draft show and interviewing all the

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>coaches and stuff and the scouts, they were talking about

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>lineback and Clark. I think Clark got has gotten better

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:18.800
<v Speaker 2>because of the guys now around.

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 8>Yet for sure, I really do.

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 4>Let me ask you this, are you guys at all

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 4>surprised that Leah Foule is right now officially on the

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 4>depth chart as a starter ahead of Overshown.

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<v Speaker 8>It surprised me. It did surprise me when I saw

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<v Speaker 8>that in the release yesterday or was that yeah, it

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 8>was yesterday.

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's been like that most of camp. He's

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 4>been out there with the starters a lot so. But

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 4>but was it? Is it just surprising that when you

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 4>look at their talent, I think, I think this is

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 4>just my perspective.

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 8>Brian might have a different one here. You know, when

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 8>you look at the three different linebackers and the three

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 8>different skill sets that they can bring to the field,

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.960
<v Speaker 8>you would rather rotate Overshown in than rotate Lea foul in.

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 8>That's from Leah Foul's perspective. He's that guy that can

0:29:58.120 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 8>kind of be a rover I think a little bit

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 8>better rather than Overshown. I know Overshown has this safety background.

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 8>I like him playing up front more. I think he's

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 8>better at playing in front of the ball, whereas Leofhal

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 8>can maybe play behind a little bit and he could

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 8>step back and coverage a little bit more. I think

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 8>he works with those other two guys a little bit

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 8>better as a compliment and overshown getting him on the

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 8>field as a rotation guy for any of those three guys.

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 8>He can play either of those three roles. In my eyes.

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 2>No, that's a good that's good analysis. But I'm gonna

0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 2>try and I'm trying to help you here. Okay, I

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>got to think about now you're fine. The thing that

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I think, I think it's availability. How much practice did

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>we really see from oversho and everything that Remember when

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 2>we were sitting there interviewing and you asked some really

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>good questions of you know, McCurley linebacker coach, and all

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>the people that were valved and the scouts were all like,

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 2>oh no, this linebacker Leofhoul, he can do this, he

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:48.719
<v Speaker 2>can do this, he could do this. You know. I

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 2>was I was talking with I was talking with Daniel Jeremiah,

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.720
<v Speaker 2>who's the broadcaster for the color analysts for the Los

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Angeles Chargers, and I was thinking, hey, you know, what

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 2>do you what did you think about leofal coming out?

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, run tackle smart. I mean he

0:31:03.200 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 2>was going on and on and on about the player

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, man, yeah, you were right about that kid,

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 2>And I think that I think that's where Zimmer and

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 2>everybody here fell in love with him. But pre draft,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, they're watching his tape. He's smart, he's tough,

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things. But how much availability did we really

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<v Speaker 2>have with Overshown? Yeah, I kind of felt like that

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<v Speaker 2>every day. I was kind of looking for number thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>Oh now he's dealing with a hip pointer. Oh now

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I think we're in the situation least right

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<v Speaker 2>now that one is ahead of the other.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a fortunate thing for the Cowboys. They don't

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<v Speaker 4>have to rush him back and they can kind of

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<v Speaker 2>I heard it he's good to go. Yeah, I heard

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<v Speaker 2>I heard that Overshown is good to go. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's any concern to anybody.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a couple more questions on this. Talk to

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<v Speaker 4>me specifically about how you think Trayvon Diggs and Kayln

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<v Speaker 4>Carson matchup against a guy like a Marik Cooper.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be interesting.

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<v Speaker 8>I think they're going to attack these two guys early

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<v Speaker 8>and often in this game. I think you might expect

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<v Speaker 8>the running game to get going early. But I if

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<v Speaker 8>I'm if I'm the Cleveland Browns off its coordinator, if

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<v Speaker 8>I'm the play caller, I'm trying to I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 8>go after those two guys trade match up. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 8>think from a speed and UH movement perspective, Marii Cooper

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<v Speaker 8>is gonna have some advantages against these guys. And I

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<v Speaker 8>think personally, I would rather have Trayvon Digs on Jerry

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<v Speaker 8>Judy and I would put Kaylen Carson on a Maari Cooper.

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<v Speaker 8>And I know that's that. I know that's that sounds

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<v Speaker 8>like are you saying I would travel them? I would

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<v Speaker 8>travel them. I want I want Diggs to be up

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<v Speaker 8>against the possession guy. I don't want him to have

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<v Speaker 8>to change his direction too much during the game. I

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<v Speaker 8>don't trust in Judy's route running ability to be able

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<v Speaker 8>to say that he's gonna get around a Trayvon Diggs

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<v Speaker 8>and the physicality that he brings. You look at Kayln Carson,

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<v Speaker 8>He's got kind of that dog in him. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 8>get you a penalty or two during the game, but

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<v Speaker 8>he's also gonna limit a Mary Cooper, and I think

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<v Speaker 8>he can he can travel with him a little bit

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<v Speaker 8>better in that sense, but you're also gonna see a

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<v Speaker 8>Mary Cooper move inside quite a bit. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 8>a task for Jordan Lewis as well. At Jordan Lewis,

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<v Speaker 8>I think he's he is ready, he is healthy. He's

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<v Speaker 8>gonna be probably the guy that they lean on a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit in this game, just because Trayvon is coming

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<v Speaker 8>off of that ACL. Kaylan is the rookie that's stepping

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<v Speaker 8>into this situation, so I wouldn't I would expect him

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<v Speaker 8>to lean on Jordan Lewis a little bit more. But

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<v Speaker 8>if I'm looking at just the Amari Cooper problem, I

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<v Speaker 8>would rather have Kaylan Carson on that guy if he's

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<v Speaker 8>on the outside.

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<v Speaker 6>Is Zimmer a guy that tends to like to have

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<v Speaker 6>his corners travel.

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<v Speaker 8>Not in my experience, Brian, Not in my experience watching

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 8>Zimmers defenses. He's a guy that would rather have his

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 8>guys just stay put in right field or stay put

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<v Speaker 8>in left field. Yeah, and get used to seeing things

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<v Speaker 8>come from those perspectives. But I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 8>this is a unique situation because you have a guy

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<v Speaker 8>coming off of a torn acl, you have a rookie

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<v Speaker 8>stepping in making his very first start. I would rather

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 8>the task this week be, Okay, study this guy, know

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 8>this guy like the back of your hand, and go

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 8>attack this guy. That's just my perspective. But we'll see

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.280
<v Speaker 8>how Zimmer kind of approaches it as the week gets closer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if I know, I don't play fantasy football, and

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I try not to give fantasy football advice, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do believe a metric that fantasy football people look at

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 2>or how the matchups are going to be. And this

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 2>comes from Pro Football focus on their fantasy matchups and

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 2>one of the actually on the Dallas end of things,

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<v Speaker 2>they're saying that if you start Ceedee Lamb of wide receivers,

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<v Speaker 2>first corners, all corners at Cleveland, he would be a

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<v Speaker 2>He's just below an excellent fantasy player against their corners.

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<v Speaker 2>On the flip side of that, if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>Judy and Cooper, they're good options against all Dallas defensive backs. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I mean, we'll see how that plays out,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just you know, sometimes you see these and

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 2>a lot of times these fantasy people are right. They

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 2>look at the matchups and they say, hey, this guy

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 2>here can score a lot of points against or you know,

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:22.280
<v Speaker 2>create opportunities against. You know, the fact that Dallas has

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 2>almost an excellent option against them, I think bodes well

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<v Speaker 2>for Dallas with Lamb, even though he hasn't you know,

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.959
<v Speaker 2>practiced and stuff. I just kind of with I worry

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<v Speaker 2>about with Dallas matching up with those two guys, you know,

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 2>and Judy is a little bit of a wild card

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<v Speaker 2>because he could go off or he could be just

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<v Speaker 2>a big fat zero.

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<v Speaker 8>I think for Judy to go off, it would require

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 8>Deshaun Watson pushing the ball down the field and a

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think that's going to be their game plan

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<v Speaker 8>coming off of that shoulder injury. I think everything's going

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<v Speaker 8>to be within that ten to twenty yard right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way he throws the ball.

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<v Speaker 8>Exactly and then be I don't feel like he's going

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<v Speaker 8>to have the opportunities.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's also the key I was gonna mention that, Brian,

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<v Speaker 4>I think with these fantasy sites, I think a lot

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:07.359
<v Speaker 4>of it also has to do with opportunities and other

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 4>things around them. So, for example, with Cleveland, they are

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 4>a running team with a quarterback coming off a shoulder injury, right,

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 4>So the opportunities that those receivers may have, even if

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 4>they win, I win, in their matchups, they may not

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 4>get as many opportunities as we know with Dallas. Dallas's

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:23.399
<v Speaker 4>offense is going to run through Ceedee Lamb. If see

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.399
<v Speaker 4>Lamb has a great day, it's a good chance Dallas

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 4>is gonna win. And so I think that's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>much as much a part of it as maybe even

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<v Speaker 4>anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the matchups. Like I said, you know, they look

0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 2>at these matchups, and I was just curious because, like

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't play fantasy football myself and I

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 2>never have. But if you're telling me, and a lot

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>of these guys and gals are very smart at it,

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 2>they'll tell you, like opportunities here. They might be looking

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 2>at it as hey, Cleveland's got no running game. Without Chubb,

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 2>they might have to throw the football. So but you're

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 2>also thinking, like, oh, good matchups against all of Dallas's cornerbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I hope, I hope in this case

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 2>because they got Judy and Cooper were right there as

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.800
<v Speaker 2>good you know with the others, but then they got

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:08.879
<v Speaker 2>Ceedee Lamb as almost an excellent matchup against against those

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Browns corners, and they've got good corners.

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<v Speaker 8>It would be funny if we talked about these last

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 8>two weeks seeding potentially not being ready and he just

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 8>goes out and has like one hundred and twenty five yards, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, you know what I think that you know, it's

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 2>it's interesting because Cleveland's one of the best, was one

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 2>of the best red zone It's been one of the

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 2>best third down teams in the league last year, but

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 2>one of the worst red zone teams in the league

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<v Speaker 2>last year. Hard to believe that you could be really

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<v Speaker 2>good at one area where you know, getting off the field,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you can't keep people, you know, out of

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<v Speaker 2>the red zone area. So yeah, it's it's kind of

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 2>a It's a lot of it has to do with

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 2>that front, and they've got really they've got good corners.

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 2>They just you know, we've seen we've seen Dallas have success.

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I think Dallas is equipped to to throw the football

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 2>in this thing, and they find a way to protect

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:53.399
<v Speaker 2>that front. They could throw the ball.

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:55.879
<v Speaker 4>We've gotten forty one minutes into a show where we're

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 4>talking about the Dallas defense and have not one time

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 4>talked about Michael Parsons. What is Michael Parson's going to

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 4>do this week?

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that with Micah then you're I think it's

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 2>very similar to what you're going to see with Miles Garrett.

0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:09.839
<v Speaker 2>I think that Mike Zimmer is not going to put

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 2>hand down and let him just rush, rush, rush like that.

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I think he's gonna move him around. I think he's

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna hunt some matchups. We talked about the inside three

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 2>for the UH. For the Browns, there's questions on the

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 2>health of the and the availability of the of the tackles.

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 2>I think Mike's just going to find it whoever looks

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<v Speaker 2>like that they're struggling the most in that game. He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to put people in position, and especially Micah. We

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<v Speaker 2>saw it in practice. He's standing in the a gap

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<v Speaker 2>they've got. They've got Kendricks in front, of him, Mike

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<v Speaker 2>has backed up all of a sudden. Kendricks Blitz is

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<v Speaker 2>the a mikeh ends up in the sea, standing in

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<v Speaker 2>the a untouched. They got everybody, They've got everybody accounted for,

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<v Speaker 2>and nobody for Micah. I could see creativity like that

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<v Speaker 2>happening for Mike Zimmer.

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<v Speaker 4>Matchups look good, as you talked about with tackles, even

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<v Speaker 4>if he's lined up on the outside, it looks like

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<v Speaker 4>he's got some opportunity.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yeah, Well another thing. I mean, he's talked about

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<v Speaker 6>it during this time and mention how he's so excited,

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<v Speaker 6>and please write the way that Mike Zimmer, the way

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<v Speaker 6>he's been positioned in him and he thinks he can

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<v Speaker 6>take make more place in this way, and how Mike

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<v Speaker 6>Zimmer is just kind of handling him and his abilities.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm excited to see what that actually looks like

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<v Speaker 6>because it sounds like Mike Zimber. I just I'm just

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<v Speaker 6>excited overall, just with what he's doing with the defense

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<v Speaker 6>because I don't know exactly what to expect, and I'm

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<v Speaker 6>excited about that because it's intriguing. It's something different that

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<v Speaker 6>we're than what we're used to. I think he brings

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<v Speaker 6>some more of that creativity part of it, aspect of

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<v Speaker 6>it where he's just kind of something that I heard

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<v Speaker 6>a lot is just going back to that, just allowing

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<v Speaker 6>players to excel a big position better in a way

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<v Speaker 6>that they can actually excel with their own personal talent.

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<v Speaker 2>Be sound. After what happened in that Green Bay thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You do not want to see unsound football on defense

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<v Speaker 2>ever again. That will get you beat badly. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think Mike will bring that buttoned up mentality to his

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<v Speaker 2>group and that's how I think they'll play for him.

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<v Speaker 8>We have a news from I McCarthy andis press conference

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<v Speaker 8>just now. The theme for the Dallas Cabals in twenty

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<v Speaker 8>twenty has been has been revealed. I would love to

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<v Speaker 8>get ambar. It's just one. Last year it was carpe

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<v Speaker 8>omnia if memories at a hotel next door exactly if

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<v Speaker 8>memories could probably be better than mine to call back

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<v Speaker 8>to what twenty twenty, twenty twenty one we were. But twenty

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<v Speaker 8>twenty four is just one word. Rooted, rooted, rooted r

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<v Speaker 8>O T E D rooted like.

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<v Speaker 6>A plant, yep to the ground.

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<v Speaker 8>Get rooted to the ground exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, okay, feet on the ground stay humble.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to fight better.

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<v Speaker 4>We had enough of fight for years. Let's let's get

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<v Speaker 4>away from that rooted all right?

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<v Speaker 6>Never they have finished the VisiC.

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<v Speaker 4>We're trying to fish that quight so many years.

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<v Speaker 6>That's that's not an easy word. I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 8>I think there's multiple interpretation.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I like the concept, but rooted want I

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<v Speaker 6>like a word that you can just come out of

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<v Speaker 6>your mouth easily.

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:19.840
<v Speaker 4>You're saying just the word itself, not necessarily the meaning.

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<v Speaker 6>Come up with a different word that has a similar meaning,

0:44:23.120 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>But the concept, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the concept, And this is where this is.

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<v Speaker 4>Where I think the concept works.

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<v Speaker 6>What's the mural going to be a tree with roots? Yeah,

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 6>the mural that't that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I mean like, be where your feet are, be

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 4>planet where your feet are. And I think in a

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 4>on a team like this, where they got so many

0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 4>outside distractions, they got people in the last years of

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 4>their deals and all this kind of stuff going on,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a good message of hey, be right

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<v Speaker 4>where you are. We're in twenty twenty four, let's not

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 4>worry about twenty five twenty six. Let's be right where

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 4>our feet are. So I see the message. I see

0:44:57.800 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 4>the message word, but I like the I see the

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:00.399
<v Speaker 4>message of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>You hope you're not uprooted.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's hope. Okay, all right, as a roun, we

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 4>appreciate you guys doing it actually real quick. We got

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<v Speaker 4>a couple. Mom, I'm gonna do real quick. IM gonna

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<v Speaker 4>go around, say, I want to start.

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<v Speaker 6>It's over.

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 4>I want I want to start. I want to start

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<v Speaker 4>this every Wednesday and Thursday. I want to go around

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 4>and tay what I want you guys to tell me

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 4>advantage Cowboys or advantage their opponent on the position or

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:24.439
<v Speaker 4>the groups that we're talking about. So we talked about

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<v Speaker 4>Cleveland defense. I'm Cleveland offense versus Dallas defense advantage Home.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's start with you, Nick.

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<v Speaker 8>You said Cleveland offense versus Cowboys defense advantage. I'm gonna go.

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna go Cowboys defense here. I love the experience

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.839
<v Speaker 8>that they've added over the over the offseason. I think

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:41.920
<v Speaker 8>adding those two guys in the middle and Jordan Phillips

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 8>and Linbald Joseph, while they are not starters, these guys

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 8>are going to add so much to the interior of

0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 8>that defensive line. The linebackers are improved. I think it's

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 8>a top five unit in the league. I think it's

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<v Speaker 8>going to be proven as early as Week one. The secondary,

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 8>I have questions absolutely, not having a healthy Deron Bland,

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 8>getting Trayvon Diggs from injury in his first game back.

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 8>They are going to test those guys and as they should.

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<v Speaker 8>But I like the Cowboys defense here. Like I said yesterday,

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<v Speaker 8>this is gonna be a rock fight of a game.

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 8>First team to seventeen wins, So I like I like the.

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<v Speaker 6>Defense Cowboys defense as well. I think I can see

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:17.240
<v Speaker 6>the line just creating a lot of pressure and keeping

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 6>their quarterback just kind of mumbling all over the field.

0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 6>So I think that the defense has the possibility to

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 6>get at least one turnover. I do. It's going to

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 6>be a challenge for sure with the receivers and the

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 6>guys that we have in the secondary, But overall, I

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<v Speaker 6>think you'll be a good battle. But with the Cowboys

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 6>defense kind of playing and staying up to.

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<v Speaker 2>Task, Cowboys win it. The biggest position that's a quarterback,

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.839
<v Speaker 2>and I'm saying that because they're going to attack. They're

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:47.839
<v Speaker 2>going to attack Watson in this game. They're gonna make

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 2>Watson try and win this game. That's an advantage for

0:46:50.800 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys. And you when you say handle pressure very well,

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Dak does so.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you say it, and when you said earlier

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 4>that he is he's a guy, that's not very accurate. Yeah,

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 4>when you talk about a secondary that has cornerbacks who

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 4>are extremely good at attacking the ball and creating turnovers

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 4>in that way, I think that's also something to note.

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<v Speaker 4>I also give advantage Cowboys defense. All Right, we'll be

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<v Speaker 4>back tomorrow. We'll talk about the Cowboys offense versus a

0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 4>Cleveland defense. Till then, for Nick Harris, Brian brought us

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<v Speaker 4>an Ambergarci. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break

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