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Speaker 2: What are we doing? We're a family, We're going out

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Speaker 2: Good more than sweet World and welcome to the Nods

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Speaker 2: podcast work. That's one of my favorites. I don't know

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Speaker 2: why I was not expecting that we're.

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Speaker 1: Going out to eat.

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Speaker 2: It's Monday, May night. Here we are in the Classic Factory.

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Speaker 2: I'm giggling away. I'm Jay Skeets alongside me. As always,

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Speaker 2: we got task Mellis.

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Speaker 1: Question is did they post it like that? Was that

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Speaker 1: know because I just wanted to see it. I think

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Speaker 1: it was the original.

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Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, we got the international man in

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Speaker 2: miss taking it to the max Leella and last, certainly

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Speaker 2: not least, super producer finding those beautiful cold opens.

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Speaker 3: D that's it.

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Speaker 4: I love that family so much.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean?

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Speaker 3: Who are they?

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Speaker 5: No idea? Find them so charming? It's just like, and

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Speaker 5: that's the original. That's as it was posted. Yeah, this

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Speaker 5: is great stuff.

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Speaker 4: They're just going out to eat, just and they just

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Speaker 4: want to TikTok about it.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Can you guys please replicate that with

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Speaker 2: your families? You guys got the perfect number size family.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely thought about me last night. That's

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Speaker 1: I mean I think we had that same conversation in

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Speaker 1: we didn't get anything from the baby in the car.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's true. Neither did they to be fair,

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Speaker 2: probably okay, no, trye today here he's actually helping out

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Speaker 2: It's field day and that's the one he's doing.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever have field dad in Australia?

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Speaker 2: What was your best event as a.

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Speaker 3: He set the record to our friend Tinny. He was

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Speaker 3: It really upset the pe teacher too, because it's like

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Speaker 3: Everybody's asking g a a new school record.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Timmy, Yeah, shout up to the stream

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Speaker 2: team too. I'm already off the rails. I got the

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Speaker 2: giggles today. Thanks everybody joining us live on YouTube. Subscribe, like, comment,

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Speaker 2: share the show, email in your NBA questions too, No

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Speaker 2: dunks at the Athletic dot Com. We're gonna get into

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Speaker 2: all of these series. Remember one on Friday we were saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: to talk about. But first this morning, who dropped the

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Speaker 2: woch bomb? Denver Nugget center Nicola Jokicic has been voted

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Speaker 2: So here you go, lately, Yeah, Jokic gets it in

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Speaker 2: And Tastra Damas calls it your preseason pick to win MVP.

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Speaker 2: I went with Jokic back to back.

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: Jokic, his team had forty eight wins bounced in the

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Speaker 3: Anyway, he's hay sorry. That was what Yannis was up

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Speaker 2: Jolkic was asked, I missed this clip going around, but

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Speaker 2: I saw it this morning. He was asked after the

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Speaker 3: Someone tweeted me and said that was from like you

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Speaker 2: Oh the photo that we can't so he might be gone,

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Speaker 3: Horses either, So who knows where he is right now?

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Speaker 2: Right well, centers in NBA history with multiple m vps.

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Speaker 3: Quick Trivia Kareem, Yeah, no, not shocked, David, Will Will.

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Speaker 2: Duncan, No, No, I don't think he's considered a center.

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Speaker 2: you're gonna win your second consecutive MVP. Because does that

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Speaker 2: don't think Yo, honest rally cares all that much. He's

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Speaker 2: going crazy. I think in game five in Miami, is

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Speaker 2: he not? He takes this stuff personally, we know more

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen an incredible game from him quite yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: start with the MAVs lighting up the Suns from deep,

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Speaker 2: the weekend task again, very surprising to me. Really impressed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sunday the mass where just scarching hot. They came

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Speaker 1: twenty in all. They got eight from Dorian Finney Smith.

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Speaker 2: Oh whoa the greatest Gord.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very solid gord. He makes I didn't know where

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Speaker 1: Wasn't Luca in this game? He was one of ten

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Speaker 1: at their firing away. Maybe it's because they've had daytime

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Speaker 1: games here in the postseason they're ready, and the Suns

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why Chris Paul did all that. It

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Speaker 2: mean that's what he did, like took us through those brilliantly. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing, Like you kind of complained that

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Speaker 3: This is on Chris Baul. This was a bad weekend

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Speaker 3: They were nineteen for thirty four, not including Luca donech

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Speaker 3: as one for ten from downtown, which is just incredible.

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Speaker 3: And when you get those guys hitting their shots, This

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Speaker 3: Even when the Sons made those little pushes, it just

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Speaker 2: Just oh my god, he's back.

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Speaker 3: I mean, wow, he is so feast or famine. I

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Speaker 3: mean twelve points, one rebound, four of six. That's all

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Speaker 3: couple as well. I didn't play all that well outside

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Speaker 3: And I think it's just so important that Luca. He

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Speaker 3: But they're not relying on him as we saw in

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Speaker 3: else contributes here. This is a fantastic weekend for Dallas

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Speaker 3: sort of surprised they're not really just force feeding eight inside.

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Speaker 3: I think that's really what they should be doing here.

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Speaker 3: But instead Dallas has probably got like we can beat

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw Mike Pritera on Twitter who just joined

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Speaker 2: almost overhelping in a way. Because then those shots are

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Speaker 2: don't help so much because you're actually you're doing more

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Speaker 2: Dinwiddie and Kleiba and Burton's and you know, these guys

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Speaker 1: Totally? And yeah, again, I hate to put it all

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Speaker 1: with those eight threes by far, and he just yeah,

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Speaker 2: can we do this two more times out of three games?

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Speaker 1: It's hard to look at something else they can do

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Speaker 2: Something that happens at the end of this game, we

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Speaker 2: From what we can tell, and he gets you know,

432
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,399
Speaker 2: he leaves with his family, and I guess rightfully so,

433
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 2: especially if he touched Chris Paul's family, his mother and

434
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 2: wife and stuff like that with his kids there.

435
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, you know, you're getting older

436
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,200
Speaker 3: and you just can't tell if the kid's either fourteen

437
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,160
Speaker 3: or twenty five. I mean, but if these accusations are true,

438
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,360
Speaker 3: that the guy was touching his family multiple times, then

439
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 3: banned for life, like, there's no there's absolutely no part

440
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,360
Speaker 3: for that. I didn't care if you're young or old,

441
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 3: because he must have been there with a parent or

442
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,880
Speaker 3: someone else, and that's just no go to the games

443
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 3: are passionate and emotional. Everyone wants their team to win

444
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,679
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and if you've got those tickets

445
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 3: close to the bench, you have to absolutely respect family

446
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 3: members at all the time. It's bad enough when you

447
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 3: know that people get abuse shouted at them, but any

448
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,399
Speaker 3: physical contact is basically unforgivable for me. Now, we don't know,

449
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what happened, but obviously Chris Paul

450
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 3: was fired up, he was pissed off, he got fouled out.

451
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 3: We saw him saying I'll see you later or something

452
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 3: like that.

453
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 2: To a kid so and then of course tweeting too.

454
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,120
Speaker 3: And I think the Mats also responded by basically saying,

455
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 3: you know, we're aware, we're investigating things like that, So

456
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 3: these things have to be taken with the utmost security

457
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 3: for sure, and get rid of those fans. That is,

458
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 3: there is no way you can justify any of that

459
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 3: sort of behavior.

460
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything to add to that, No, really, I just

461
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 1: noticed that it was happening behind the Sun's bench, directly

462
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,479
Speaker 1: behind the Sun's bench, and I guess they had co

463
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: mingled family with regular fans, I suppose, which I know

464
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: what happened in some buildings in the playoffs, but most

465
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 1: of the time they try and keep the families together.

466
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how a mass fan squeak in there

467
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 1: right behind the bench, So I just don't I just

468
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,719
Speaker 1: want to know the seating chart and what happened, because usually,

469
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, you to protect the family from as much,

470
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, playoff vitriol as possible, You put them somewhere

471
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 1: where they're kind of isolated, or you know, have a

472
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 1: row of fans, you have security around them. But the

473
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: mass fans seem like he had a seat right behind

474
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Speaker 1: the bench. Yeah.

475
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 2: Well, I guess at a certain point it's not going

476
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 2: to be all Suns fans that are family and friends.

477
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: At a certain point, it's going to become Mavericks fans

478
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 2: in Dallas. And it feels like that's where it was,

479
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 2: that line, but there's no barrier in between them.

480
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: Where were the palls. Where was Chris Paul's family?

481
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,479
Speaker 2: Well, I think they were, like, yeah, I think they

482
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 2: were like two rows back or one row back. And

483
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 2: then this family, this kid whatever that reportedly touched them

484
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,160
Speaker 2: was exactly what you're saying. The next row behind them.

485
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: I thought he was even closer. I thought he was

486
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 1: even I'm right behind the bench.

487
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, yes, I mean.

488
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 1: Obviously, no excuses, no, obviously.

489
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think you have to come down harshly

490
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 3: so that other people know as well that that's the

491
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: punishment if you do it, because obviously we don't want

492
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 3: to see a Mallets in the palace situation where things

493
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 3: can quickly escalate again when people are emotional and it's

494
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 3: playoffs and you're trying to win, and that's when people

495
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: can be they can just lose their minds very very quickly. So, uh, anyway,

496
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll find out in the next few days

497
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 3: exactly what happened there because there are cameras every mark.

498
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 3: Evans got those cameras all around the arena, so they

499
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 3: should be able to find out what happened.

500
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 2: All right, Well, until we do, let's move on to

501
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: James Harden and Joel Embiid power in the seventy six

502
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 2: Ers pass the heat there on Sunday and they even

503
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: their series at two games apiece. So yes, we're into

504
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: pivotal territory. With Game fives coming up later this week.

505
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 2: We may have more pitoleful game fives after tonight's games.

506
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: For all we know, we could have five four excuse me,

507
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: pivotal for game fives. But anyway, no surprise that Embiid

508
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 2: comes back and changes the course of this series. And

509
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 2: thank god because we remember at the end of last

510
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 2: week on this doesn't even feel like a playoff series,

511
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 2: feels like teams in January. Well it changed when he

512
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: came back, obviously in game three, and continuing in game

513
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 2: four we got the mask and the beard, and I

514
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 2: think the Sixers looked as good as they have at

515
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: any point in this series and in a while here

516
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: because of really hardened, like pushing a bit of temple

517
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: blending scoring with attacking and playmaking, and you know you

518
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: had to step back. Three is going finished with thirty

519
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 2: one points in Game four and sixteen in the fourth

520
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: court and Heat were hanging around trying to stay in this,

521
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 2: trying to steal it. Butler doing his best. They don't

522
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: have an answer for him, but hard and playing like that,

523
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 2: and a Beid coming out and setting the tone in

524
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: game four after you know, a Game three where he's

525
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 2: out there and like that's inspirationally pull that off in

526
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 2: front of their Philly crowd, and suddenly this is a

527
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 2: series now before sure, and you could convince me either

528
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 2: team wins.

529
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: Yes, I'd probably still lean towards Miami because I have

530
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 3: home court advantage here. But in bad the good thing

531
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: is for Philadelphia, he's only taken twenty five shots in

532
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 3: these two games. It's not like it's like, Okay, everything

533
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: is going through him in James Harden. Maybe he's going

534
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: Benjamin Button on us here if he's starting to find

535
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: his legs a little bit, because last night was without

536
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: question the best game I think I've seen him play

537
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: for philadelph.

538
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: That's who they treated for exactly three time score and

539
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 2: champ that can like dominate stretches of a game.

540
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 3: Yes, and he had the nine assists there as well.

541
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 3: He was looking fantastic, got to the free throw line

542
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 3: ten times, hit the six threes and when they needed

543
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: and when Miami made that push in the fourth quarter,

544
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: that was when he was like, this is what I'm

545
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: going to have to take over the step back threes

546
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: and knocked him down. So that was incredible I think

547
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 3: here for Philadelphia, and I think that just sort of

548
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: energized the crowd as well, and then Beads realizing, Okay,

549
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: I can do mine without having to be the only

550
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: guy who can go out there and dominate my opponent.

551
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 3: So this is a fantastic weekend here for Philadelphia because

552
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: I think they also exposed Miami's one weakness, which is

553
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: their offense at times looks bad. It just looked. And

554
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 3: this is the thing, like Jimmy Butler gun for forty yester.

555
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: He was great, but that's not a good sign. I

556
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 3: don't think for Miami they're much better. And they went

557
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 3: seven for thirty five from downtown. I mean, I agree

558
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: with the expel shafting game. I don't think they were

559
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: all bad shots. Some of them just were clankers and

560
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: they missed. But they don't want to have to have

561
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: a guy carry the offensive workload like that. They prefer

562
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 3: it when everyone is contributing, getting guys to knockdown shots.

563
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 3: Kyle Lawd is an interesting one. He went over to

564
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: six from downtown. But why was he even on the

565
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: court at times there? Like he's coming off a hamstring

566
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: injury and it looked like he was hobbling around, dragging

567
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: that foot around, which to me seemed like a huge risk.

568
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 3: But he you know, spose, he's a worry. He wants

569
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: to get out and play, understand that, But man, what

570
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 3: is if he does more damage to that hamstring, you

571
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: might lose him for as long as you're in the

572
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: playoffs here. So this is great for Philadelphia. You know,

573
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: they have a way here of at least competing with Miami.

574
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 3: They've got to now take that down to Miami and

575
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 3: compete better down there. Now that obviously Embiid wasn't there

576
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: for the first two games, but they got to be

577
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: feeling at least like they're back in this series and

578
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: with a real chance.

579
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you see from these two games to

580
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: Philly wins.

581
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: Ever, the weekend, well, James Harden performed and his action

582
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: on the floor just opens things up for other guys.

583
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: As you said, this was his best game by far

584
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: in the postseason. Yep, yes, of course what they traded for.

585
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: They need him to be phenomenal if they have championship aspirations.

586
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: It happened here late, but it's you know, game four,

587
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: and Embiid said it after the game when they're sitting there,

588
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: he was asked about it and be said, yeah, this

589
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: is this is the James Harden we we want, we need.

590
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: And you saw as all the focus was being on

591
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: Hardened and Embiid. Later late in the game, everything look

592
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: everybody looking all five sets of eyes looking at Harden

593
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: as he handled the ball, threw off to Maxie and

594
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: then Maxie was able to find Tobias Harris because the

595
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: focus was still on Embiid and Hardened. Tobias Harris literally

596
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: just creeped in from the corner for a huge allube.

597
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: You don't see an alley oop. Yeah a minute, I

598
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: already laugh. Yeah, Yeah, that was big. So that was

599
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: a dagger alley loop. While the other two guys, because

600
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: they're driving so much attention and gravity forced that to

601
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: happen on the heat side. Definitely a worry about Kyle

602
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: Lowry with the team that struggles in the half court,

603
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: you know, regardless of who's on the floor, because you know,

604
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: Lowry isn't really a creator. Tucker isn't really a creator.

605
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: Strus needs things created for him and Bam hasn't become

606
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: that guy. So if Lowry's out there, yeah, hobbling holding

607
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: his hamstring at times, and he was asked about it postgame,

608
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: he said, you wouldn't want to play with this. I'm

609
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: not sure why because he isn't just a guy who's

610
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 1: needed to, you know, catch and shoot. He needs to

611
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: do a little bit more. Everybody needs to do a

612
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: little more. It's a thing, it's a it's an offense

613
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: by committee. So that's worrisome. It kind of makes more

614
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: sense to start gave Vincent and wait till Lowry is healthy.

615
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: And obviously Tyler Hero needs to be a little bit better.

616
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: Those are the guys that needs to be great. It's

617
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: it's Hero and Butler on this team. And Hero was

618
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: not that guy. And maybe you run more plays for Strews.

619
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: I thought that he was super quiet in this game,

620
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: and his offense is desperately needed playing alongside Tucker and

621
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: a hobbled Lowry, So you know, go home. I think

622
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: think they find their offense a little bit more, but

623
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: those guys need to step up a little bit more

624
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: as well.

625
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 2: Look, I think I might be the biggest Kyle Lowry

626
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: fan on the planet, but he should not be playing.

627
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: He's doing more harm than good. And I don't know

628
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: if he's even going to play in game five because

629
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: of how many times did he leave this game with like, oh,

630
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: the hamstring is acting up here. He's shooting twenty one

631
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: percent since returning from injury. In the series, he scored

632
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 2: six points. Yeah, he hasn't hit a three. He's got

633
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 2: five turnovers, the ten assists not all that great. So

634
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: I'll be sort of shocked if he even plays here

635
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: in game five, And I think that's right move. I

636
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: wonder if Spolstra dust off Duncan Robinson with what the

637
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: shooting we just saw in Philly. They he said seven

638
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: to thirty five in game four. There were seven to

639
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: thirty in game three, So nobody can hit a three.

640
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: Duncan Robinson hit eight threes in a game against the Hawks,

641
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: and I know it's the Hawks and you're playing a

642
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: better defensive team in Philly, but you maybe give give

643
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: him a go here, like give him a spell, because

644
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: we've barely seen him really since. Yeah, he's sort of

645
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: shocked if he doesn't at least try him for a stretch.

646
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: And that Heat culture is like, all right now, it

647
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: is your chance. We need someone out there like that

648
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: because they're not getting I mean, Oladipo his numbers are

649
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: okay in the end here, but he didn't I didn't

650
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: think he had a really strong impact on the game

651
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: there last night. But he may be the one who

652
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: comes into the starting lineup if Larry is out, and

653
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: then yeah, you throw Robinson out there pretty early to

654
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: just try to generate some fresh looks and a guy

655
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: who you know can light up, because he went eight

656
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: for nine in that game, which is just a strength

657
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: again that the Miami Heat have that a guy like

658
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: that can't even play because he was so bad. But

659
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: when things are going wrong like this, they need to

660
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: find a way to ignite that offense because it is

661
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: crazy to see just how bad it was those threes.

662
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: I mean, this is one of the best three points

663
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: in the league, if not the best of percentage wise,

664
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: so it's really weird for back to back gams it

665
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: to only hit seven on a thirty plus attempts. So

666
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe there's a spot there for Duncan.

667
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mistract a sporster trays it looking for answers here.

668
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: But in BID two back to him, you know, it

669
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: was like they were doing a they did different defensive

670
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: tactic against him, and from three to four, right he

671
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: was like, they're going sort of small and he was

672
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: getting switches and you know, he was sort of working

673
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: or operating in game three a little bit more. They

674
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: threw more bodies at Game four, open things up for

675
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: everybody else on the Philly team and hard and cooking.

676
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: But his impact really is just defensively, just him being there.

677
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: It's just like everybody that goes in there on Miami.

678
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: Now you gotta think twice a lot more about him

679
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: bid being around the rim than you do obviously a

680
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: Paul Reed or DeAndre Jordan or whoever the hell and Nyang.

681
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like that impact him just giving

682
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: you the minutes on the defense, and even if he

683
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: didn't do anything offensively, it's a game changer. And it's

684
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: a huge I mean, this is why it's a little

685
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: different this game five. Going back to Miami. It's like, oh, yeah,

686
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: they didn't have embiid for the first two. So yeah,

687
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Philly fans gotta be feeling confident they can

688
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: win this series. If he's playing, he's still figuring out

689
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: the mask and he's bothering with that every feels like minute.

690
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and you saw there was a ply that

691
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: six Is tweeted about him basically shutting down all the.

692
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: Deepo oh that was amazing.

693
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's the sort of thing that

694
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: you want from your leader, who's likest this look at

695
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: me trying to not get beaten by this guy and

696
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: just a normal play during the game that shows the

697
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: other guys how what the intensity has to be on

698
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: the defensive end. So I think it's great, as I say,

699
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: I mean, only took thirteen shots yesterday, which is remarkable really.

700
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: But the big question for me is what James Harden

701
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: is going to turn up in Miami?

702
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Really?

703
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: I mean, is it going to be the guy who

704
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 3: was in that fourth quart I think he had fourteen

705
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: in the end there last sixteen?

706
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: Was it?

707
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? Or is it going to be the guy who's

708
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: just kind of placid and like just not really feeling it.

709
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: Because if they get Game four James Harden, then that's

710
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: I think their biggest key to getting a victory and

711
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: stealing the series.

712
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool seeing Joel Embiid wanting to guard Jimmy Butler. Yeah,

713
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: in that stretch because Jimmy was going off and Bed

714
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: always takes the better guy or the best guy on

715
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: the other side of the floor, whether it's a perimeter

716
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: player or not, and Jimmy was up for it as well,

717
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: going into the post. You know, footwork, footwork, footwork, not

718
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: trying to go through and Beard but trying to dance

719
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: around him. Yeah, guard versus center. Pretty freaking neat to

720
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: watch that. But the Heat didn't have that balance in

721
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: Game four where their best player was trying to do

722
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: everything and obviously knew that no one else was producing,

723
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: so he had to do it. James Harden also was

724
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: watching Joel Embiide having to do everything, and so he

725
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: stepped up on the offensive ent and was able to

726
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: create hit some shots. You saw a motion from James

727
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Harden which you don't see these days. He just he

728
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: was he was into it that it was obviously his

729
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: best playoff moment in a Philadelphia seventy six Yers uniform,

730
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, the people don't want to believe and I

731
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: get it, and watching him and seeing what he's done

732
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: these first couple series doesn't look like the old James Harden.

733
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: It looks like a different player. And Doc can keep

734
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: on saying that, but he's running our offense, he's creating assists,

735
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: he's creating for others. But it's not enough. It's just

736
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: it's not enough. He has to be a star in

737
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: the series, especially with Joel and Bide not being one

738
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: hundred percent. So we'll see what happens in game five.

739
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: It is a question he can carry it all right.

740
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: It's incredible how quickly things can change in our playoff series.

741
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: Though again, if you just go back and listen to

742
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: us talking about both of these series really on Friday

743
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: Show to like where we are now, and it's like,

744
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 2: oh my god, anybody can win.

745
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: The well part of it though, as well, is because

746
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: the embiid thing was he wasn't officially he's not playing.

747
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: No, I don't even think they're they're not only both

748
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: of those games, I'll tell you that, But what's.

749
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: Crazy to me is the six has got fined fifty

750
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: thousand dollars for playing Embid. We're finding teams now for

751
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: playing their stars. Devin Booker and the Sun's got fine

752
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, that's Ridiculous's just.

753
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: I know it's not because the NBA got in bad

754
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: with gambling. Well, that's why we're.

755
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: Doing and that's to me, that just shows like that

756
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: that's the stupidest thing is now you're protecting the gambling

757
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 3: side of things. Well, I'm fine with a bit of

758
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: games ship from teams where like if you're Doc Rivers,

759
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: you're like, maybe he's playing, maybe he's not. I'm not.

760
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: Why don't I tell Miami beforehand? I want Miami to

761
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: know at tip off Joel Embiid's playing. But this is

762
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: where the gambling influences coming in, where the NBA we're

763
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: protecting the gamblers. Stupid finding team for playing their stars.

764
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: You gotta tell me they're playing in the right amount

765
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: of giants. Second, so we can set our lines and

766
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: we can make our bets in confidence.

767
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: I know, I know, because you know we've seen in

768
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: the past where you know when David snn of course

769
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: with the Spurs, he find them for not playing on

770
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 3: a national TV. Okay, there's not muchigue, but now you're

771
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: playing this runner up MVP. That's fifty grand for not

772
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: telling us in time. Man, that's just stupid, so bad.

773
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: You were going to say something.

774
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so the start with seven eastern on Friday night, yep,

775
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: and they had to report his status. They have to say.

776
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: The interesting part is all they had to say was

777
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: bracket doubtful by a certain amount. By by I think

778
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: it was one thirty or two o'clock eastern. It was

779
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: early because I was at my naturalization ceremony and I

780
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: was I was watching, I was watching it. It was

781
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: it was it was somewhere around there was one or

782
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: one thirty I had to be reported. I think it

783
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: was by one eastern that they just had to report

784
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: something and they weren't going to report out. All they

785
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: had to say was doubtful. That's all they had to say,

786
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: not that he was going to play. And that's where

787
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: they were fined fifty thousand dollars. And then and then

788
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: they have to do it again at I think sixty

789
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: minutes before tip off. But yeah, I got a.

790
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 3: Partic the game.

791
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what got man.

792
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: Uh I thought it smelled more American in here.

793
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: It's absolute.

794
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, thank you, yeah, congratulations, thanks, thanks, thanks

795
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: smelling citizenship. Look out, lean, this guy's got multiple passports.

796
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 3: Which one did you give up? The grease or the

797
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: Canadian possport?

798
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm not like I'm keeping them all.

799
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's take our first break. When we

800
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 2: come back, we'll talk about Jahn Morant's injury and the

801
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: impact that has on that series. Talked a little Celtics box.

802
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 2: The King's got a new coach, so we got lots more.

803
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, okay.

804
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: All right, only two ads?

805
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well we had to off the top two.

806
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's sure.

807
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: John Morant expected expected to miss Game four tonight versus

808
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: the Warriors with the knee injury. I think he is

809
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: doubtful letting the letters know.

810
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: All right, you never know, Okay, you never know. Doubtful

811
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: better than note, better than note.

812
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, this obviously sucks. This a part of it,

813
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: I guess from the pool, grabbing at the loose ball,

814
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: grabs the knee. John Morant pissed off over on the sideline.

815
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: You broke the code. Then I'm going to delete that tweet.

816
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm not sure did you really break it? But then

817
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: there's other clips of him landing awkwardly. He had a

818
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: knee injury too, so it seems like he reaggravated this

819
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: right displos.

820
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: Though it obviously does stink. Why did he delete the tweet?

821
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: Do we have a confirmation as to why? Because it

822
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: just seems a little a little less of a strong

823
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: opinion at less poignant if you just point you pull

824
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: it out.

825
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I took it as in reference to like,

826
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: like Dylan Brooks was a dirty plate. I don't think

827
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: anyone could contest that. I don't think what Jordan Poole

828
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 3: did was dirty right now. And I think John Morant

829
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: sort of reacted emotionally like the code of the moment,

830
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: and then he was like probably a bit harsh, and

831
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: it was hush because it was it was just I

832
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: look at what Pool did, like you know, when you're

833
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 3: playing defense and sometimes you throw your leg at and

834
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: you just kick the balls, kickball John Mran's hirky jerky

835
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: Pool sort of you know, lost him and reached out

836
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: and just grabbed him and that was it. I didn't

837
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: see anything malicious, yep or anything like that, And I

838
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: think John Moran, once he sort of cooled down a bit,

839
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 3: is like, probably didn't do that on purpose, because why

840
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: would anyone really do something like that.

841
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: Seems like a strange decision in a split second, exactly

842
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: to determine while I'm doubling and going for a loose

843
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: ball in a key game in a playoff series, that

844
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to try and injury you by grabbing your knee. Yeah,

845
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: that's just I just I'm with you. Yeah, I don't

846
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 2: think that's what he was doing at all. It happens.

847
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely stupid injuries happened in basketball all the time.

848
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: It would have been incredible if he had that type

849
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: of surgical precision in a moment.

850
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: And the strength.

851
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, Clay Thompson a great comment. I don't even

852
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: think he's strong enough to affect somebody's knee. Awesome time.

853
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 2: Wow, did Clay just break the code about his own

854
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: team enough?

855
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very funny. I think he's basically saying, get

856
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: in the weight room, Georgian Pool, Clay. There's no satire

857
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: with that guy, I think he said. But I mean

858
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: he gave him a hip opener. You know, do you

859
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: kind of grabbed the knee pushed on the waist and

860
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: everybody watching in slow mo and watching that half a

861
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: second instead of watching the whole clip where a second

862
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: earlier he poked the ball loose, it didn't get absolutely

863
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: loose or clearly loose. So he went after it again,

864
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: got a knee and yeah, in that moment, if you're

865
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: slowing it down, I know you talked about it on

866
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: your weekend Shift podcast. It's it looks bad, but that's

867
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: not how it works, that's not how real life works.

868
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: And so yeah, he went after it. There were a

869
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of moments where John Morant, playing with an injury

870
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: early in the third quarter, flew out at Clay and

871
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: hit his knee on Clay on a closeout attempt, and

872
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: then he kind of landed awkwardly ninety seconds before this

873
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: Pool incident. So I think he also retracted that tweet,

874
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, because of everything going on with Pool, but

875
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: also because they gave up one hundred and forty two

876
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: stinking points of the Warriors, and that's hard to sort

877
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: of defend after the fact they lost by thirty. Yeah,

878
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: the Golden Crush, the Golden State Warriors looked incredible. They

879
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: look like the best version that we've seen this postseason,

880
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: the way they're moving it around. So I think Joe

881
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: was a little bit yeah, you know, you get you

882
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: just got popped. And they did an incredible job of

883
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: taking away John Moran. They didn't double which we, you know,

884
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: thought they may have after a forty cent point performance.

885
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: They kind of stopped them with the zone they played

886
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: so much. So I don't know what the stats say

887
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: about how many possessions in a row they played in

888
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: relation to postseason games in the past, But to see one, two, two,

889
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: over and over and over again for like two and

890
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: a half quarters, I don't I don't see that. I

891
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: don't remember seeing that ever. I know we see a

892
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: box and one in the twenty nineteen finals against Steph,

893
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: but it was you know, Morent Steph, like like where

894
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: they had to focus on Morent and they took away

895
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: the three point shooting and that was the game right there.

896
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: And then the Warriors looking great on the offensive end too.

897
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: Well, let's say he doesn't play tonight because of the

898
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: knee injury. They went what twenty and five without him?

899
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: Do you give the Grizzlies still a chance to tie

900
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: the series and give us a pivotal game five or

901
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 2: without Jaw and he's played great. Yeahs part that they

902
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: don't have a chance to win this one tonight.

903
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: They're a chance, but a slim chance. I would say

904
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 3: the Warriors just unlocked something there, and that's what the

905
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: fear was going home. When they stole Game one. It

906
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: was like they could really just have a game where

907
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: they shoot seventeen for thirty two and Clay and Steph look,

908
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: you know, mostly very good. Steph had fourteen free throws

909
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: in this game. He which is a lot more aggressive.

910
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: It was a Leo yeah, and that now I think

911
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: that if you're the Warriors, they haven't played their best

912
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: in the first two games, They've got the split and

913
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: they can sort of smell blood a bit, and I

914
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: think we know that if we can go three one up,

915
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: very likely they're going to close out the series from there,

916
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: whether it's in six or perhaps even five here, especially

917
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 3: if jar is missing. You mentioned the twenty five fantastic

918
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: Of course for Memphis, they've played without him. Dylan Brooks

919
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: will be back of course for Game four as well,

920
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: so they get that. But I think this is where

921
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 3: you're going to see experience is the relative inexperience here

922
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: of the Grizzlies like they cannot allow the Warriors to

923
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: get on.

924
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: They start off, they're.

925
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 3: Up what thirteen points, yeah, early on, but then it

926
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: was basically that was like turned around so quickly, and

927
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 3: then the Warrior is just that avalanche again, you know,

928
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: to put up one hundred and forty two points. I

929
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 3: mean that that's the real concern here for the Grizzlies

930
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: is how do they how do they sort of get

931
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: them back to you know, just missing all these threes

932
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: when the balls moving like that, Steph's aggressive clays, hitting shots.

933
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 3: It's very very tough to see for me, Memphis splitting

934
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: this road, you know, for them this road stretch.

935
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, John ran knee injury. Bean is banged up with

936
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: with sort of back issues. I don't know what's going

937
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: on with Steven Adams, you know, is he sick or

938
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: is he not? Is he back? Is he not? Does

939
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 2: he even get a chance, Because that's the crazy part

940
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: here with the Warriors. And I brought this up on

941
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: the weekend shift, Like the one thing we thought the

942
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: Grizzlies were going to do is like take care of

943
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: the rebounding department. Uh, And that's like what they're there's

944
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: the bread and butter. Right, we'll get more chances than

945
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 2: you will. And that hasn't happened a lot, in large

946
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: part because of Wiggans great job on the boards and

947
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: Otto porterman coming in. Otto Porter is like a revelation

948
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: here for the Warriors and Steve Kerr It's like, I

949
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: wonder if he starts tonight and you know Kaminga got

950
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: the game three start Kurrz getting crazy and trying all

951
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: these different lineups, will it be a auto porter Because

952
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: when he's played, that's when the Warriors have looked the best.

953
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: I would say on both ends.

954
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there absolutely start. Yeah, I think so he started

955
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: the third quarters. Yeah, the second half, Kumingo did some

956
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: good things, but not a lot of good things. He

957
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 1: turned it over a couple of times. Yeah, but they

958
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: have a bit of a recipe. The Grizzlies are trying

959
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: to take away the threes and that's why it became

960
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: a bit of a layup line. And I think the

961
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: thing is we talked about morantless Grizzlies and that roster. Well,

962
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: when Steph sits, it's historically been a problem for the Warriors.

963
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: Where were we getting our offense? And now with Jordan Poole.

964
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: They're just it is it is Pool or Curry Light.

965
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean Pool is.

966
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: I can't believe this. I mean I know now I

967
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: should be used to it. The Jordan Poole, like thirty

968
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: points and the way he scores and his plea making

969
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: and all that. Still I feel in shock every time

970
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: I see it still because it's like an impersonation of stuff,

971
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: and it's like becoming more and more believable.

972
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's also showing he's a team player because

973
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 3: he was starting for a while and now he's coming

974
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: off the bench and he's like, okay, I'll just do whatever.

975
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 3: He understands where he is in the pecking order, but

976
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 3: he also understands I can get these shots. He's got

977
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: the you know, somewhat of a green light to go

978
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: out there and score and shoot at will. And he's

979
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 3: so confident in his own ability, which at the start

980
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 3: of the season, early in the season was costing him

981
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: some bad shots. Now he's like, he understands, be a

982
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 3: little bit more patient, you'll get the opportunities and go

983
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 3: out there. But the Otto Porter stuff, for me is

984
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: just shocking because he feels like just to throw in

985
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: like end of the bench type of guy. I don't

986
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: think they start him. I think they do like that

987
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 3: what he's giving them off the bench there. But certainly

988
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: when you're Steve Kurtz, like you've got some very very

989
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: good options right now. So yeah, things have just sort

990
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: of almost like fallen into place perfectly here for the

991
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: Warriors where they feel that sort of championship caliber run again,

992
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: and the Grizzlies a little bit shorthanded obviously to not

993
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: and just not haven't been in a position like this before.

994
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks needs to make up for his bone headed foul,

995
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: yeah on Gary Payton. Second, that's the he needs to

996
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: have one of those Dylan Brooks games, which we know

997
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: he has in him, twenty five to thirty points. He's

998
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: got to have one where he's hitting some threes and

999
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: being aggressive and he's gonna do that, and he's gonna

1000
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: it's gonna like the grizzlyes should be help out. They

1001
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: shouldn't give U one hundred and forty two. I don't

1002
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: think he's good. He's a decent defender, you know, obviously scrappy,

1003
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: he's going to give you all his fouls, but he's

1004
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: on Curry a lot. But he's got to have one

1005
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: of these breakout offensive games and not have the opposite

1006
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: where we know he can go like two for fifteen

1007
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 2: because he'll just keep shooting away.

1008
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be a different game for the Grizzlies. They're

1009
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: going to do it by committee instead of you know,

1010
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: waiting for Morant to produce. They shouldn't see his zone

1011
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: like that, so you know, they should try and produce

1012
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: by a committee themselves. The scary part is, Yeah, the

1013
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: Warriors when Curry sits, they've won those minutes by twenty

1014
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: five points in total over these first three games. And

1015
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: that's all Jordan Poole And I wasn't completely sure that

1016
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: the quotes coming from him on the floor when he

1017
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: was yelling, we're accurate. Did you see that he hit

1018
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: the shot and he said, let's go. I'm really him,

1019
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm really him. Would that's what it was and reading

1020
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: reading some lips, I guess, and that's what it.

1021
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: Was like, similar to that bullet, Yeah, who do you

1022
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: think you are? I am?

1023
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty similar. Yeah, I'm really him, I'm really him, skeets.

1024
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: He's yelling at you, you don't believe that I can

1025
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: do this?

1026
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: Night and night I think exactly right, that's what he's

1027
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: yelling at.

1028
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: I guess I'm really him. I'm really him. And we

1029
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: talked about it on Friday's beach stepping. We had the

1030
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: great question in our mail bag, pool, Maxie or Brunson,

1031
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: who you got right for the.

1032
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: Next ten years? It wasn't for like right now in

1033
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: a playoff series for the next ten years. That's a

1034
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: good one.

1035
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: It's a great email. It's a very difficult choice. But

1036
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Poole, Yeah, balling, balling out there right now.

1037
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little buck Celtics interested to hear your

1038
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: biggest away from the Games three victory there crazy ending,

1039
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: of course with the you know the smart foul? Was

1040
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: he in his motion? No, they gave him two. I

1041
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: think the league came out and said the officials got

1042
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: it right, that it was, you know, on the floor

1043
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 2: only shooting the two. That's the sort of the final

1044
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: two minute report or whatever. Yeah, but what do you

1045
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: think of this one? And then we got John Horse

1046
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: with the with the Bucks saying the officiating has been

1047
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 2: basically garbage on their side of things. The honest should

1048
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: be going to the line one hundred more times a game.

1049
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: Well, I'll start with the maccus moutlin. I think that's wrong.

1050
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 3: What else was he doing? I mean, he grabbed the

1051
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: ball and he's going up, he's shooting three. He should

1052
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: have gotten three shots out of that. I can't believe, really,

1053
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 3: I believe that official.

1054
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: What else was he doing? Well, he felt the well

1055
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: I guess you could say he felt the pressure that

1056
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: they were going to do the old foul because they're

1057
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: down three, right, the classic page just foul because I

1058
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 2: just don't give up a three pointer. And then when

1059
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: when was it drew coming towards them? It's smart, he's lowry,

1060
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: like he's Chris Paul, like he's you know, he's thinking

1061
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: ten steps ahead. Well, I'll just try and trick the refts.

1062
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what people and I get the games shit.

1063
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: But I'm like, he was shooting a three that point

1064
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: of the game. They need a three. He's shooting anyway. Yeah, Like,

1065
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: we don't need to go and break down every single

1066
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: foul call because both teams are complaining about every foul

1067
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 3: every single time.

1068
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: It feels like in every series exactly, and it's just.

1069
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 3: Ridiculous, Like we have to accept some calls are just

1070
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: going to be controversial and they're not always going to

1071
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: get them right. But me for Yannis, what I noticed

1072
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 3: about this for him in this game, he had incredible

1073
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 3: forty two points, twelve rebounds, twelve free throws. I think

1074
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 3: that he Their strategy was don't get into the sort

1075
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: of muscling trying to outbody guys in the low post,

1076
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: because that's when the Celtics and actually got some good

1077
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: big bodies in Grant Williams and Ol Horford and even

1078
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: Jalen Brown could do it. Yannis is better when he

1079
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: can have a bit of a run up and he

1080
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 3: can sort of do those gigantic steps and finish around

1081
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: the rim. He went sixteen to thirty in this game,

1082
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: by far his best shooting performance, and I felt a

1083
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: lot of that was like he was like, I've got

1084
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: to just attack these guys before they can put their

1085
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: body on me. And I think that was really the

1086
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: key here because Drew Holliday had a good game, he

1087
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: didn't shoot all that well, but Yannis was just looser

1088
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 3: and fresh air. I think like that for the Celtics overall. Again,

1089
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: you lose a game by two points, I mean could

1090
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 3: have been overtime if it.

1091
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: Was that horror for the first was going.

1092
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 3: On Al Hawford by the way, twenty two points and

1093
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 3: sixteen rebounds, four threes. He is unbelievable. Like we know

1094
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: he's been underrated, but my god, he's playing well. But

1095
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum himself, this is now two games where he's

1096
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: kind of struggled a little bit. Four for nineteen on

1097
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: this game in particular, only one rebound as well, and

1098
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: New Dorker talked about that afterwards. It is like, if

1099
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: you're not shooting, that's fine, that happens, but you have

1100
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 3: to still impact games in other ways and only only

1101
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 3: three assistan now he gets four blocks. But Jason Tatum

1102
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 3: at his best, what I've seen in this season is

1103
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: when he's getting rebounds and he's the distributor facilitator on

1104
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 3: offense as well. He hasn't been able to do that

1105
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 3: certainly in this game here. So this is a fascinating series.

1106
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 3: The Bucks look like they were in control of this one.

1107
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: Boston comes back in gave themselves a real chance here

1108
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: to steal back home court advantage, but Milwaukee's done it,

1109
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: and now Game four is just this is going to

1110
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: be incredible. This one is going to be a battle

1111
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: to the end. You can still convince me either way

1112
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: that the Celtics would win this or the Bucks win it.

1113
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,959
Speaker 3: But I think Yannas, I'll be surprised if he doesn't

1114
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 3: play that same way where it's like those run ups,

1115
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: just don't let them come out, don't try it out

1116
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: muscle these guys, because that's how the Celtics want to

1117
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: defend you.

1118
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: No.

1119
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: I mean I think he straight up trick Grant Williams

1120
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: at the end the go ahead basket, where he's like,

1121
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: you think I'm going to barrel into you, maybe go

1122
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: for a little hook shot or even try to get

1123
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: to the free throw line. And he just did the

1124
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 2: crazy little eurostep in tight quarters and then got a

1125
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 2: kind you know, kind bow. It wasn't a smooth lay up.

1126
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: It got a little drop and then and then we

1127
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: had the Drew Holiday stepping on tetum and he drops

1128
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: and and you know, so that that was a bang

1129
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: bang he misses that, and then maybe the Celtics do

1130
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: pull this off. Not to say the whole tips and

1131
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: the Marcus Smart miss free throw crazy. This has been

1132
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: a wild series already.

1133
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: It was a wild series. Bucks go a couple of

1134
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: roles there at the end. If Jason Tatum is a

1135
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: little better. It's a totally different result. I think for

1136
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: one game, Jayson Tatum turned into Kevin Durant from round

1137
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: one where Kevin Durant was sort of rushing stuff. The

1138
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: Celtics got in his head overpassing, not taking his shots,

1139
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: turning it over and he just he got looks. But

1140
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: he just wasn't right for one night. So can he

1141
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: bounce back? Because it's sure feels like Giannis isn't gonna

1142
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: fall off. We're watching Yanni's Finals performance right now where

1143
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: he has to do so much. Yeah, they decided, you know,

1144
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: you can bring the ball up so there can't be

1145
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: a lot of traffic around you. The Celtics are really

1146
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: really good at doing that, or or we'll get you

1147
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: loose in different spots. Mike Budenholds are doing an incredible

1148
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: job of varying the offense for jan Stick goopo, no

1149
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: doubt about that. But I think we're gonna see great

1150
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: defensive performances on both sides. It's just gonna be both

1151
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: shot making. Because we've seen through three games now, you

1152
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: know the Celtics have it faltered in Game one a

1153
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: little bit, but now they're I think they're all locked in.

1154
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: We're seeing some Eastern Conference basketball, We're seeing great defenses,

1155
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: and if Tatum can pick it up a little bit,

1156
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: then the Celtics, yeah, have a real real shot here

1157
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: because besides Yannis, you you got to rely on Holiday

1158
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: to create there, and that's who's Yeah, he shot thirty times,

1159
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: real Holiday.

1160
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: Shot thirty times. I think that's worth noting. Again, score

1161
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: twenty five. Definitely not efficient, No, but I think they

1162
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: need that aggression when there's no Middleton and he shot

1163
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: at least twenty times in all three games so far. Yeah,

1164
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: that's secondary scoring key to them. Yeah, with no Middleton. Oh,

1165
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 2: he's the only one who can really get his own

1166
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 2: shot too. Those other guys need to be set up.

1167
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: So he needs to be aggressive like that. And you know, yeah,

1168
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: you take the twenty five points on the thirty shots

1169
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: simply because he has to force that offense and create

1170
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: that make that defense work on him as well. Yannis

1171
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: can't create for him as well as trying to create

1172
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: for everybody else. I can't wait for this game.

1173
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this one is tonight, please, you know, because

1174
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: people are putting clips up, you know, Yannis, the one

1175
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: on Robert Williams. Yeah, but he was faird before that, Like, yeah,

1176
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 3: I get it, we get it, like things, things aren't

1177
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 3: always going to be perfect. But like this, like well,

1178
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: I mean again, the Celtics lose this game, but they

1179
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 3: took thirty four free throw so you know, what are

1180
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: they what are they complaining about? They got tons of

1181
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: free throws.

1182
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: They're complaining about the one they didn't get it right.

1183
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 3: But it's like you've got it, just like the game

1184
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 3: isn't perfect, the referees aren't perfect. That's the way it goes.

1185
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 3: A great physical series like this, there's always there's always

1186
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 3: a way you can kind of manipulate it to say, look,

1187
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: this was a fair if you go by the letter

1188
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 3: of law. But the flow of the game I think

1189
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 3: is way more important than this sort of like nonsense

1190
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 3: of trying to break down every single play whether it

1191
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 3: was a right or wrong call.

1192
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart might be perfect that intentionally miss free throws.

1193
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 3: A yeah, that was yeah, well done.

1194
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: He tricked out amazing.

1195
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he he went through his routine, he

1196
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: was going to shoot that set no boom and got there.

1197
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 2: I mean he had a chance to tie this game

1198
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: over time, like a pretty good look all things considered

1199
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: in traffic there off of miss free throw and then

1200
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 2: William's coming in and then Horford getting a couple looks

1201
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: in that second one a little a little late, you

1202
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: knew it in real time that second one, I felt like, yes,

1203
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: it was like.

1204
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could hear it. Yeah, someone hugged, Yeah that

1205
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 3: was yeah, guy off the bed. But even.

1206
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: It was pretty subdued. That was a perfect free throw miss.

1207
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: You don't usually see backboard rim because he just went backboard. Yeah,

1208
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: uh perfect. Usually you know, try and get a piece

1209
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: of the rim, or he'll loft it up off the

1210
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: back rim or side rim. But he went backboard rim

1211
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: right back to him. I was phenomenal, and he kind

1212
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: of faded on the shot and then then you know

1213
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: the Horford went tip, went backboard, left rim. He was

1214
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: standing on the right side, backboard, left room, then right

1215
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: rim towards him. You don't usually see a ball go

1216
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: off like that, go off the room like that, So

1217
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff happened there. Yeah, it's it was wild.

1218
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: I do think that the Marcus smart just to jump in.

1219
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: There was four and a half seconds left when he

1220
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, was in his shooting motion and if you remember,

1221
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: you know, Game one of the first series against the

1222
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets, they used every single second of the Gamelo

1223
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: clock to get Tatum that shot. So I don't think

1224
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: he was trying to shoot. I think he was, you know,

1225
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 1: it felt the contact and then he tried to throw

1226
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: it up. He didn't even complain all that much, you know,

1227
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: so I think if he was trying to shoot, he'd

1228
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 1: complain a little bit more. But yeah, it's getting a

1229
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: little tire, sum I think on on Twitter a little

1230
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: bit because it's like peak Internet detective at this point.

1231
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: You know, like even a couple of years ago, not

1232
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: everyone was going through every single play, but now everybody

1233
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: getting their computer skills up.

1234
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: And manipulating the context of it as well. That's the

1235
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: thing is. But I'm just looking at it again here.

1236
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 3: I honestly think that's a bad goal in that sense

1237
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: because Smart's getting it. They need three, and he knows

1238
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: Drew's coming, so he's like, I'm getting the shot up.

1239
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: I just don't see what else they could argue that

1240
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: he was doing other than shooting, so anyway, just might

1241
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: take it.

1242
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 1: I think it was ripping through he felt.

1243
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: I didn't see the ripped through to be honestly, I

1244
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: see him like he where's the context coming? And he's like,

1245
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: I'm getting the shot up here.

1246
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: Because and this is what you Dooko of course was saying, yea,

1247
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: like this was his shooting and he's going into a

1248
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: shooting motion. That's what he's saying. Yeah, oh my god,

1249
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: but you're right, I mean, and this is what happens

1250
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: with all of these half saying of course he was shooting,

1251
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: other half saying, oh he wasn't. He was trying to

1252
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 2: get the foul call. As we've seen.

1253
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: I will say Drew Holliday being extremely strong and keeping

1254
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: his arm and keeping Smart's arms down I think played

1255
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: a factor too, because if if he if you know,

1256
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: he's able to go through the arms, it looks more

1257
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: like a shooting motion. But Smart's arms were down for

1258
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: a long time, you know what I mean, as he

1259
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: as he tried to rip through.

1260
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 2: I forgot to even bring up just to keep talking

1261
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: about the officiating. Was it not set on a broadcast?

1262
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: Hey man, you fall, you'll get the call basically our

1263
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 2: whole thing, Yeah, oh god, no, it's all blended.

1264
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: Was it? Mark Jones?

1265
00:55:55,640 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: It at some point this weekend by an official basically, yeah,

1266
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 2: you know, if you fall there, you're getting the call.

1267
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 3: Ka said, he said that to him.

1268
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 2: Yes, that's from official.

1269
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think he's making enough.

1270
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: You get the call.

1271
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: I mean, we're all over this, we're telling everybody. Uh

1272
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: and now everybody's catching on it. It's true and it

1273
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: and it drives me nuts. On rebounds, I mean, I

1274
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: just any contact on a rebound, you're getting called for something.

1275
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: It's silly. That's when they should be allowed to fight.

1276
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: Battling for the boards. It's literally called battle for the boards.

1277
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: Let them battle a little bit if that means somebody

1278
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: gets hit on the arm or you know, I'm not

1279
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 2: saying you get a straight up hit a guy and

1280
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: punch a guy in the face, but there's contact, let

1281
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 2: him tussle a little bit.

1282
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely, when it's a loose ball like that, you know again,

1283
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: you you can tell someone goes in with his body

1284
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 3: and drives a whacky guy the way. But when it's

1285
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,439
Speaker 3: two arms going up and it's a wrestling contest, there's

1286
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 3: no foul.

1287
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: Right, But let him play. Okay, let's get to some

1288
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: news here. The Sacramento Kings have their new king. They've

1289
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 2: hired Mike Brown as the team's new head coat in

1290
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: hopes of breaking the longest playoff drought in NBA history.

1291
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 2: Ken Mike do it. The Kings negotiated a four year

1292
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: deal with the current Golden State Warriors assistant coach. So

1293
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: everybody's wondering, well, why Mike Brown. I think there are

1294
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: three reasons why. We've talked about it a little bit

1295
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: when we were wondering if he was going to get

1296
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: this job. The Kings seemed to prioritize previous head coaching experience.

1297
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: You know, their list was Brown, Mark Jackson, Steve Clifford,

1298
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: all coaches who you know, have some history of obviously

1299
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: coaching in this league before. So there was that they

1300
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: wanted to go that didn't want a new coach. They

1301
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 2: also seem to prioritize a defensive minded coach because their

1302
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 2: garbage on that end of the floor. They think they

1303
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: ranked twenty seventh overall in defensive rating. The Kings did

1304
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: so again, All three of those that I listed, you know,

1305
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: known for really defensive minded coaches, and Brown is one

1306
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: of them, especially what he's done with Golden State. And

1307
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: the other thing is and I think it was Jason

1308
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: Jones pointing this out on Twitter Vivic ranadivit excuse me,

1309
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: he has a fixation on former Warriors coaches. This is

1310
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 2: four former Warriors assistant coaches that have now become King's

1311
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: head coaches since twenty thirteen. Michael Malone, Luke Walton, Elvin Gentry,

1312
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: and now Mike Brown. So those are probably the three things.

1313
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: I think there's actually a decent higher Tassi said it

1314
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: though last week. Who really knows. I mean you can

1315
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: just say you like what you've seen from that coach before.

1316
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't got Lebron James on your team. Yeah,

1317
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: you're not going to the finals like you did way

1318
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: back in the day with the Lebron. But I think

1319
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: at least in terms of a structure, especially a defensive

1320
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: minded guy, and I think basically Fox was pleading for

1321
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 2: that at the end of this year. If you heard

1322
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: some of his like postseason quotes like we need some

1323
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 2: just someone to like run this, like some actual accountability. Yeah,

1324
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: so maybe that starts with Mike Brown.

1325
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 3: Maybe you just need players who can play defense as well.

1326
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: I mean, ultimately that's what it comes in. It doesn't

1327
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 3: matter who the coach is. If you don't have defensive

1328
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 3: players out there, you know that made the triade for

1329
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 3: Sabarnas not a great defender himself, Fox obviously to be

1330
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 3: better Barnes, all these guys, I mean, I'm just naming

1331
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: guys and Dabiel Mitchell very good defenders. But that's the thing.

1332
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 3: The challenge for Mike Brown is just to somehow unlock

1333
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: these guys so they can really stop just conceding baskets

1334
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 3: so easily from three point line and in the paint.

1335
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: So he's got a ton of work to do. But

1336
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 3: this roster also needs to improve. I don't really see

1337
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: tons of defensive stoppers there, so exactly how they're going

1338
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 3: to do that. Again, Monty McNair's got his work cut

1339
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 3: out for him. But I think Mike Brown is a respected,

1340
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 3: trusted voice who has been around a long time. He's

1341
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: been an assistant for six years there with the Warriors,

1342
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,959
Speaker 3: so he certainly is ready for another opportunity. I hope

1343
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 3: he succeeds. But you know, as of today, a coach

1344
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 3: isn't going to turn this team around from where they

1345
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 3: were to all of a sudden vaulting up the standings

1346
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 3: without some improvement in the personnel as well.

1347
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he becomes a King's twelfth coach in the past

1348
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 2: sixteen seasons. I'd love to see him get a year

1349
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: or two, you know, to actually implement some sort of

1350
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 2: system in place of what they're going to write. Don't

1351
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 2: give it, you know, couple of months or even just

1352
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 2: the season. You got to give him a couple of

1353
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: seasons here.

1354
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: I think he better and I kind of was in

1355
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: his corner because he kind of got screwed with the

1356
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: Lakers job back in the pau Gasol Kobe Nash Dwight

1357
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: Howard experiment. But the criticisms of his are, well, he

1358
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: doesn't really adapt into playoffs. Well, if they make the playoffs,

1359
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: Mike Brown's getting a banner right right. They need to

1360
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: get there. So if he can develop a system, which

1361
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: she's obviously capable of doing. He has been around this

1362
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: game for a long time, so good luck to him.

1363
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: And the Kings. Here's what they need to do. Don't

1364
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: come into next season, be it from your GM or

1365
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: your man or your own or whatever, and say, you

1366
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: know it's playoffs or buns. Don't do that. Why don't

1367
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: you set your goals a little bit even lower. I

1368
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: know that's crazy because it feels like every team makes

1369
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But look at the Western Conference standings and like,

1370
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: we don't need to go through every team. Some crazy

1371
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 2: things would have to happen for even the Kings to

1372
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: make the play in that's just being truthful. And again,

1373
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: I want all your Fox stock. I'm in on somebonis.

1374
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: I like Mike Brown as a head coach, but like,

1375
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 2: why don't you just set your goals as like, let's

1376
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: be above average defensively, you know, let's start that, even

1377
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: if it translates into you know, thirty five, thirty eight

1378
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 2: wins or whatever, like, just like, let's get a system

1379
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: in place. Obviously, we got some decisions to make money.

1380
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: Mcnahir does in terms of their personnel, and they'll have

1381
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: money and they have a pick they got to try

1382
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: to knock out of the park here, but just like,

1383
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: don't do that, don't put yourself in that corner right away.

1384
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: I'd like to see them do that, and I think

1385
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 2: give it a year or two. You know, really, I

1386
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 2: guess I'm getting two or three years under Mike Brown

1387
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: and maybe then you're like suddenly challenging and you're at

1388
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: least a plus five hundred.

1389
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: Team stability is important, exactly, yeah, exactly.

1390
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: But I'll see and sorry, one more thing. I heard

1391
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: deuson Mo talk about this on their Great Kings podcast.

1392
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: It will be nice, I think for Mike Brown to

1393
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 2: be able to come in. He's worked under Pop so

1394
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: he's worked like incredible players obviously in the Spurs franchise.

1395
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: You just said with the Warriors, so it's around Steph

1396
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: Curry's been around you know, Kobe's and stuff like that,

1397
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: and Lebron with the Calves. He should be able to say,

1398
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: like two Fox and spots the stars on the team,

1399
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 2: like this is what these guys did, right, this is

1400
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: how they approach the game.

1401
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

1402
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 2: I've been around it day to day. You know, not

1403
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: that Fox and some that are gonna be on the

1404
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 2: levels of Lebron's and Duncan and something like that. But like,

1405
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 2: if they can do it, you can implement that to

1406
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 2: have to become a better player, and hopefully you can.

1407
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: You know, they should listen to that and see why

1408
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: they wouldn't.

1409
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just looking at their recent draft history as well,

1410
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 3: because you talked about that that's so important because Mitchell

1411
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 3: was their pick last year. He's turned out. They had

1412
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 3: the Portuguese player Keta as well. You know whatever. But

1413
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 3: before that was Tyris Haliburan, which they traded, you know.

1414
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 3: So they've actually drafted in the last couple of years

1415
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 3: here some okay players, but now it's important to grow

1416
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 3: those players. And Haliburton wanted to be there, he wanted

1417
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 3: to stay. Okay, fine, he's moved on now, but it's

1418
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 3: going to be for the best thing as well. I

1419
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 3: think for Mike Brown is to try to get just

1420
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 3: some stability in terms of the internal dramas and chaos,

1421
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 3: get rid of all those best because that tends to

1422
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 3: also engulf the franchise. Early on there's report of you know,

1423
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 3: someone not talking to somebody, and you know, the sort

1424
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 3: of leaks that come out of that locker room in

1425
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 3: that organization and never good either. And Mike Brown, I

1426
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: think if he can just say, look, I'm the coach,

1427
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: leave me alone. I'll take care of the players, that's important,

1428
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 3: I think for the Kings.

1429
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 2: All right, well, let's hear from everybody out there in

1430
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: the stream team a thumbs up or thumbs down on

1431
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: Mike Brown getting that King's job. And does this mean

1432
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson is going to be coaching the Lakers fast?

1433
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: That's what? Uh?

1434
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 3: You know?

1435
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: I guess everybody else wants.

1436
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, no idea. Yeah, the thing is Mark

1437
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: Jackson was trending on Twitter today because he didn't get

1438
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: a job. Twitter is a strange place. What about MB

1439
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: Mike Brown? He should be trending?

1440
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 2: Well, I think again, I think it's the Lakers angle

1441
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: of things. Yeah, I know, I know everybody weighing in.

1442
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 2: I'm Mark Jackson getting his name trending there on Twitter.

1443
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see it, because now we're down to well,

1444
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: we got the Lakers, still got the Hornets, is it?

1445
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 3: That's all right now?

1446
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 2: Right now? Yeah? Jazz TBD and you never with a

1447
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 2: couple other franchises. Congrats with Mike Brown. Kratz of the

1448
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: Kings fans starts now the playoff push, but not for

1449
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: this season coming up. The next season starts now. I'll

1450
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: take our final break when we come back. Tweet of

1451
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: the night. All right, let's start wrapping up the show

1452
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 2: with a little tweet of the night.

1453
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: Tweet over night.

1454
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: Woww Yeah tweeted the knight. It's really a pick from

1455
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,439
Speaker 2: Drew who tagged us in this tweet, So thank you Drew,

1456
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: and I believe Corlis Williamson, which is a little strange,

1457
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: but wow, Phoenix blew the Mavericks TF out, I guess.

1458
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 2: And then the photo for those listening to the podcast

1459
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: was the error that they had during the broadcast where

1460
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: it showed the Suns with seventy eight points to the

1461
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 2: Mavericks eighty two. Okay, that happens, you now, it happens.

1462
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: We've been in the truck before. Oops, fat finger that one.

1463
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 2: We'll get it off the screw and somebody fix it.

1464
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 2: But this photo really caught my eye because I was like,

1465
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's a Super Nintendo. Yeah, Drew, you're

1466
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: rocking the Superintendac the controllers there too. Anyway, it just

1467
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: made me think of my favorite Super Nintendo games and

1468
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: if you guys had one, have you ever even played

1469
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 2: that system?

1470
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 4: Week?

1471
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure.

1472
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 3: Yes, someone had it, yeah, I mean, Atari was obviously

1473
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 3: the biggest one there in uh showing your age, Yeah,

1474
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 3: from my generation. But Trouble Dragon was on the Nintendo,

1475
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: wasn't it.

1476
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: I don't well, I mean, I don't know if they

1477
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: had a Super Nintendo version.

1478
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 3: But maybe it was. Maybe it was on the Mega

1479
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 3: Drive that they had the Yeah, double drag.

1480
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 1: I remember, I only remember Mega.

1481
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 3: Drive a Mega Drive. Yeah you didn't get that.

1482
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you ever played.

1483
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 3: Well Motocombat and the what's the other one.

1484
01:05:58,920 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: Street?

1485
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah you're like fighting?

1486
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, those one's great. But I still have sort of

1487
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 3: those games from that are. Double Dragon still is my favorite,

1488
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 3: you know.

1489
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right? Did you play Super Nintendo?

1490
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was my favorite. My second system was

1491
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: I never had the Sega Mega Drivet. I was a

1492
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: Nintento man.

1493
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a second man.

1494
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, so the regular hold on original Sega is

1495
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: called the Mega Drive Origion.

1496
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, that's like a different version.

1497
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, just one.

1498
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: I was a straight up Sega Genesis three buttons, let's

1499
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: play something.

1500
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: Oh we would battle, we would battle. I wouldn't like

1501
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: your house.

1502
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you wouldn't like the controller and.

1503
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: It's a fat controller.

1504
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah for sure. Yeah it's a different controller.

1505
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: But you know, NHL ninety four ninety five are pretty

1506
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: good on the Genesis.

1507
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 2: Damn right. That's why I was a second man, because

1508
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: I believe the sports games were better on that system.

1509
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: A little he could argue with me, but uh, anyway,

1510
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 2: was well, I.

1511
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: Loved speaking of sports games, I love Super tennis. That's

1512
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: a good game. Oh those are really wow. That was

1513
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: probably my first, my go to sports game.

1514
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: Really.

1515
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: I love the NHL games were Yeah, get me in

1516
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: the corners. I can wrap around anybody one time. That

1517
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: baby when they added the one time, that's all.

1518
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 5: Uh.

1519
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: I think.

1520
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 1: I think my favorite game on the Superintendent was the

1521
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: original game that everybody got, The Super Mario World.

1522
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 2: That's a damn good game.

1523
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: It was a really good game.

1524
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 3: Yep.

1525
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: Just everybody had it when it came with the system.

1526
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: I think I think everybody got it.

1527
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was something like that. I feel there was

1528
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: a package deal. I put down a sorry. Super Metroid

1529
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: was amazing. NBA Jam you could.

1530
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 3: Play, yeah, yeah, h jam was on it.

1531
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Super Mario World F zero you know that game?

1532
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't ready that game.

1533
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what else you got?

1534
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: That's about it. The Super Mario World is just the

1535
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: first time you turn it on, it was like whoa wow.

1536
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: Graphics in US. As soon as you bought you got

1537
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: the Super Nintendo. You open that thing and then you

1538
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: put in the first game you got and it was

1539
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: out of this world and compared to Nintendo or regular

1540
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: Sega what a Yeah, it was pretty good. So, yeah,

1541
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't into the fighting games.

1542
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah much. That wasn't as much either JD. Did you

1543
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: have a Super Nintendo game? Were you a Super Nintendo Family?

1544
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 4: Well, okay, you're taking like nay two. Yeah, I was

1545
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 4: breaking in some helixes back then.

1546
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't.

1547
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 6: I'm playing the video I had. I had in television.

1548
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 6: That's an old age. Yeah, and then I had and

1549
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 6: then there was nothing until sixty four and yeah, sixty four.

1550
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 3: Did you have the fast load on the sixty four?

1551
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 3: That was well, like everyone had the Comodore sixty or

1552
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 3: not every and a couple of kids had it, and

1553
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 3: then someone had this fast load disc where you would load.

1554
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:34,879
Speaker 4: That you're taking this time.

1555
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: Sixty four the Commodore.

1556
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 3: Oh you're okay, Comodore six. You know. It was like

1557
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 3: you basically have to be a programmer to get a game,

1558
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 3: and it loaded and it took like half an hour.

1559
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 3: So if you wanted to play videomes games in the

1560
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 3: mid eighties in Australia, it was like, we want to play,

1561
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 3: We're playing an hour once we get everything set up,

1562
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 3: and then then it would go crazy. And then the

1563
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 3: fast load came along with Game Changer ten minutes and

1564
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 3: we were playing.

1565
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 2: All right, see, Drew, this is what happens. It is

1566
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 2: what goes on when you just send in a simple

1567
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 2: tweet with an error on the score. Bug there, let's

1568
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 2: hear from everybody out out there. Though, best Super Nintendo game.

1569
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 2: There must have been a Mario card on supert there was. Yeah, yeah,

1570
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 2: well that would be on the short list too.

1571
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: So in the production truck there, I guess you know,

1572
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: those long hours and TV. They got it all set up,

1573
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: We're good to go, the game is gonna happen, we'll

1574
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: produce it fine, but then they jump on and play

1575
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 1: some video games in between. I guess no, that was

1576
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: somebody's house. Yeah got me, you were kidding. I'm sure

1577
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: they haven't.

1578
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 2: They drew me the air. I do love the idea

1579
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 2: that in the production truck though, playing.

1580
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: That's what I don't know. It seemed like a messy house.

1581
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: No offense, true, but it seemed like a production Well.

1582
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 2: Well you can see there's another there's a PlayStation over there.

1583
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: There's a funny little doll there. Oh, and that's Paddington Bear.

1584
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 3: Was like a dog though a dog.

1585
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: Then that's a PlayStation underneath the Supernintendo and that's a

1586
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: slider for the switch. See that's slider beside the Nintendo. Yeah,

1587
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: you got me, got me thinking about the score bug,

1588
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: and that's why I thought we were in a truck.

1589
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 1: But I guess not. Yeah, I could see NASCAR playing

1590
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: on that super.

1591
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 4: Star word for sure. Who's Nascar, friend? It's our old

1592
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 4: t D one of our tds from what's a TD

1593
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 4: for those people?

1594
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 6: That's a technical director, the person who's doing the ship

1595
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 6: that I'm doing.

1596
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 2: Are you playing superintendent over there? The entire show Tonight's Games.

1597
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 2: Guys Celtics bocks Milwaukee leads that series two to one,

1598
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: followed by Grizzlies Warriors. Warriors obviously up two to one,

1599
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 2: and I stopped playing superintendent. There you go, super Mario

1600
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 2: World gallagha.

1601
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh great, John Gallagha.

1602
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 2: There's the games. Of course, we had to show you

1603
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 2: this image they had.

1604
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 6: It took me a long time to get this unloaded

1605
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 6: from the NBA Twitter predictions.

1606
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 2: Lee, Come on, what do you got?

1607
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 3: Home team? Home Team? I think, wow, Yeah, I like

1608
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 3: the box. I think Giannis is going to put on

1609
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 3: another show. And yeah, I don't really see the Grizzlies

1610
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 3: stealing this one. I think the Warriors alike, let's let's

1611
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 3: end this well, not ended, but you know, put us

1612
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 3: in a position to wind this year.

1613
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 2: It'll be tough if these are three one series for

1614
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: anyone to convince themselves that the Celtics or the Grizzlies

1615
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: would come back from that. I think that's fair.

1616
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Buck Celtics it's a coin flip. Yeah,

1617
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: it's hard not to watch the Warriors as podcasters, you know,

1618
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: people who like to rite the narratives, write the stories

1619
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: and not think the Warriors found themselves here in round

1620
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: number two against the Grizzlies like they did in twenty fifteen.

1621
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: It's obviously not apples to apples, but you remember in

1622
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,440
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen they were down two one to that Grizzlies team,

1623
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: and obviously this is a you know, a bit of

1624
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: a different scenario, but that's when they found themselves.

1625
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:02,440
Speaker 3: To all Andrew Bogan move, it's like, all right, all right, grindfather,

1626
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 3: you can.

1627
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: Shoot I I'm not so sure about the Bucks winning tonight.

1628
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 2: I say that as someone that has Bucks and six too. Tatum.

1629
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: He has bounced back from that performances before there could

1630
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 2: be a forty Burger or fifty burger from that guy

1631
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 2: for sure. And Grizzlies Warriors with no John Morant, they

1632
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,640
Speaker 2: do not like their chances. Need the Canadian boys to

1633
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 2: come through if there is no John Morant. Dylan Brooks

1634
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 2: gotta be big on both ends. Brandon Clark too, you know,

1635
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: has to have one of his monster games and do

1636
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 2: some work on the boards and get some more shots

1637
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: for that team. Because the Warriors are just out rebounding

1638
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: them right now, so hopefully they're entertaining games. We'll be

1639
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 2: back to talk about them regardless whether they're blowouts or

1640
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 2: one point victories tomorrow morning. Here from the Classic Factory

1641
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 2: live at TENNEM Eastern. Hit that like button. Subscribe to

1642
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,559
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1643
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,120
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1644
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,479
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1645
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: an athletic subscription, what are you doing? Go to the

1646
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 2: Athletic dot Com slash no dunks so they know that

1647
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Speaker 2: we sent you, so you can take advantage of an

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: incredible athletic subscription deal. Right now, I think it's a

1649
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: dollar a month, so my god, So go get one.

1650
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 3: If you haven't that one already. Yeah, where I take

1651
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 3: my boys for the dentist. They have Galligha on the

1652
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 3: old like actual proper, proper arcade game. We're always an

1653
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 3: hour early for the appointments. Now we've got to get there, kids,

1654
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 3: gotta get there. I don't want to be late. Wow

1655
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 3: it's tabletop or no, it's in the it's but they've

1656
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 3: got Donkey Kong and oh Donkey Kong that was on

1657
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 3: pack Man everything that it's like, yeah, it's awesome. I

1658
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 3: just want to throw that because j D said, Gally

1659
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 3: Guy's probably still my favorite arcade game.

1660
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, really yeah it was.

1661
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:36,679
Speaker 3: That's an awesome game.

1662
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 2: It's your favorite game. All right, guys, we will see

1663
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 2: you tomorrow. Until then, clip of ros. You heard it

1664
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 2: here first, have a great time, turn up.

1665
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 4: Love you guys, awesome.

1666
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.

1667
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: And remember you know the character in Donkey Kong. You

1668
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: know why he didn't have hair or a mouth. He

1669
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: had a mustache and he had a hat. No, I

1670
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: don't know why, because the graphics couldn't produce. They couldn't

1671
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: make a hair and they couldn't make a mouth back then.

1672
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a little little factoid for you.

1673
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 3: What about Donkey Kong too? Did the upgrad by that?

1674
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, It's just a good old fact. You

1675
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: a hat and never moved his mouth. There's a huge mustache.

1676
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 4: You say character, But isn't that Is that not Mario?

1677
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? I did. I didn't say Mario because it wasn't

1678
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure, but it has to be right.

1679
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: I think it is, Yeah, I think it is. It

1680
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 1: looks like Mario.

1681
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 2: You're talking about you're talking about the original Donkey Kong

1682
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 2: count Yeah, because yeah, yeah, I got you. It's definitely Mario.

1683
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that was before Martin.

1684
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 3: Mario.

1685
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: Mario moved on Mario Bros. He wanted to he would

1686
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: have the same character. But you know where they weren't

1687
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: calling it Mario. No, he's nameless.

1688
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 4: Really, I think they were calling Mario.

1689
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1690
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 4: I mean even at a job, it was a plumber.

1691
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 4: That's why there's pipes and stuff everywhere.

1692
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 3: Did you have that old flipp flip screen like handhelding?

1693
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1694
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: Wow, that was huge.

1695
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 2: You talking about pong real quick?

1696
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm the door sixty four, you know we were talking

1697
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 1: about I.

1698
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 2: Can't keep track with what system you're even talking.

1699
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is a yeah, this it's not good.

1700
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 3: I can't show any butter but these all flip games

1701
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 3: that used to have.

1702
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: Man that what Tiger well, I remember the yeah, yeah

1703
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 2: yeah Tiger electronics.

1704
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 3: Man, they're only one hundred bucks on the.

1705
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 2: Jesus get one. Bring it into the show. If we get

1706
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: a blowout tonight, will just play video games on tomorrow show.

1707
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: I see an N sixty four controller right there, literally right,

1708
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: that's fat. That's a fact controller. But it was nice

1709
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: to handle Genesis. It is too wide, It's like a

1710
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,520
Speaker 1: steering baby hands. Whatever. N sixty four has got more buttons,

1711
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: more advanced, Nintendo was just it just destroyed.

1712
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 2: The nice Uh the Elean oars are nice.

1713
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: That one's got a SA pad. Fly around race today

1714
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 1: people