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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of My Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio Together Everything. So don't don't hello listeners. Can you

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Speaker 1: hear me? Can you? I can I'm listening. Who is this?

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Speaker 1: Where are we? I'm listening. This is Katie's stole yea

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Speaker 1: and we are yes from the podcast that. This is

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Speaker 1: Worst Year Ever. I never thought i'd meet you on

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Speaker 1: the podcast that I host with you. It's so nicely

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Speaker 1: make your dreams come true. Yeah, I saw you before

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Speaker 1: we started recording, and here here you are still still

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Speaker 1: here I always will be because, as we have said

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Speaker 1: so many times, time is meaningless, so this is purgatory. Yes, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I welcome everybody to day like one and fifty of March.

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Speaker 1: We did it. We got were halfway through March, folks. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I guess my name is Johnson. We do that, right,

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Speaker 1: we do that at the beginning of the of the shows.

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Speaker 1: We don't know that we can prove that we do

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Speaker 1: not have Sophie with us here today because she's moving

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Speaker 1: and we miss her. Um I mean moving house locations,

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Speaker 1: not physically moving, although she might be currently physically around me.

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Speaker 1: You're moving right now. The plan is always revolving. I've

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Speaker 1: been told that's true. I haven't told that. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure I believe it. But here we are. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: prevail even though she isn't here to keep things in check,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to go really smoothly. I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: my best to remember when ad breaks are etcetera, etcetera,

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Speaker 1: so on, so forth. Today. Uh, we were going to

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Speaker 1: talk about other things, but as usual, the news marches

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Speaker 1: on and there have been a lot of protests for

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Speaker 1: a variety of different reasons out of the past weekend.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to dive into some of that. Some

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Speaker 1: of it will be familiar territory, some of it will

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Speaker 1: be infuriating. We're gonna do it together. Yeah, we are together, Robert.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we start by having you talk to us

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Speaker 1: about what you went through this past weekend in Portland? Uh? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh it was, you know, a nice nice weekend, sunny, um,

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Speaker 1: a perfect weather, perfect weather weekend. You know, the days

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Speaker 1: That's all there is to say about this past weekend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's but that's most of it. Like, that's the bulk

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. Yeah, well he was a Nazi

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, I would stay at home would have been

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Speaker 1: my preference for the Nazi as a general rule. If

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Speaker 1: be hiding in their homes. So what was this protest? Well,

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Speaker 1: it was a couple of things. So there was an

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Speaker 1: event that was a UM like and there all over

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Speaker 1: events that were like rebranded to save the children. Um,

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Speaker 1: So they were trying to kind of like rebrand and

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Speaker 1: was another aspect of it that was, um a back

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Speaker 1: the Blue rally, you know, after Portland's almost ninety days

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Speaker 1: of protests. Um, some police supporters wanted to do a

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Speaker 1: And like this is this seven eleven. Some of the

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Speaker 1: They pretty much all had mace, A lot of them

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Speaker 1: telescoping batons or pipes. Um. They threw explosives that really

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Speaker 1: what did you expect them to do? People were angry

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Speaker 1: we should we should highlight those things because it's examples

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Speaker 1: the anti fascist you know, the people of Portland UM

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Speaker 1: very successfully rallied. You know. When the rally started there

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Speaker 1: bull that they hurt who can't you know, I don't

430
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Speaker 1: think can effectively get that kind of justice. I mean,

431
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: just at that event alone, like there were people, it

432
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: was so many brutal assaults. Might I suggest though, that, um,

433
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: this incident that broke your hand might cause you to

434
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Speaker 1: suddenly have a British accent for a couple of months. Well, boy, Cricky, yeah,

435
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not ready to chim chim Cheru

436
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 1: saying Chimney sweep. Okay, I would draw, I withdraw my

437
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: public suggestion. I would suggest maybe work on that, but

438
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: I definitely do it for a while. I'm gonna commit

439
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Speaker 1: genocide in't binal I am wait shit on that note,

440
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: seems like a good time to go to an odd

441
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: break that was so good at these accents. I don't

442
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Speaker 1: know why. I I don't have a career as an

443
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: actor anymore. We're gonna take a quick break and we're

444
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: gonna come back and talk about more protests and can

445
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Speaker 1: go yum together everything. Don't don't do back. We as return?

446
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Speaker 1: Oh we as return? Oh yeah, returned? Mate, good good

447
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: all around. Um, um, let's talk about Oh yeah, I

448
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 1: just I guess I should go over like how the

449
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: how the day ended, because I do think it's fun. Um,

450
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: we could all use a little fun. Yeah, it was

451
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: because it worked out actually really, I mean so you

452
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: had this kind of escalating series of really ugly fights.

453
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: At one point they were trying to tear apart the

454
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Speaker 1: BLM snack van with their bare hands until they all

455
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: got horribly maced away from it. Um and yeah, definitely

456
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: assaulting private property there, which they say is the horrible

457
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: thing that protesters do um, and yeah, they were trying

458
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: to beat people, but like the crowd around them got

459
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: bigger and bigger and bigger, um and so and it

460
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: kind of it wound up with you again. You had

461
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Speaker 1: this huge mash of anti fascists, only like a hundred

462
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: or so of whom we're actually all kind of you know,

463
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: gathered up in a semi organized way around their shield line,

464
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Speaker 1: which was like two three hundred people. UM. And like

465
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Speaker 1: the the chunk of the anti fascist lines that was

466
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Speaker 1: actually a shield wall was only a few dozen people,

467
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: was much smaller than their shield wall. But the anti

468
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: fascist shield wall knew what they were doing and had

469
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: experience like working under fire and advancing under fire, so

470
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: they started advancing. So like that, So they have like

471
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Speaker 1: a standoff with these guys right where neither side is

472
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Speaker 1: willing to advance into the other. Um. But both sides

473
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: are throwing things, bottles, rocks, you know. Uh, they chucked

474
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Speaker 1: a couple of pipes. The anti fascists were more likely

475
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: to throw some rocks, um the odds smoke bomb and

476
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: so they're chucking stuff at each other. And in the

477
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Speaker 1: middle of this standoff, a group of four I believe

478
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: was for UM black women with a BLM banner kind

479
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: of walk in between the two shield walls. And they're unarmed,

480
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: they're not even I didn't even see them in protective gear.

481
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: And the guys in the shield wall try to grab

482
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Speaker 1: their their sign and pull it inside, and I think

483
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: they might have been trying to pull one of them

484
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: and to beat on them too, but I can't confirm that,

485
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: but they were definitely they charged at them, essentially, and

486
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: the group folks on the left like pulled them back,

487
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: and there was a fight over that, and eventually they

488
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Speaker 1: got pushed back, and as they were getting pushed back,

489
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: a bunch of them panicked, and so like a bunch

490
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Speaker 1: of guys on that line, I'll sprayed mace at the

491
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: same time, um and then mace themselves because it blew

492
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Speaker 1: back onto their lines. And so suddenly, like a hundred

493
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: fifty two hundred them are like backing away and fleeing

494
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: because they've got Mason their eyes and they weren't ready

495
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: for it. And so they still had this chunk of guys,

496
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: a bigger chunk than the anti fascists who were in

497
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 1: like an organized shield wall, and they threw a firework

498
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: at the left wing shield wall, and it did nothing

499
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: right because, like where they're used to having federal grenades

500
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: blow up in the middle of them, they don't pan

501
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: it because the firework hits them. Um. And then someone

502
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: on the left wing side throws a firework back at

503
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: the right wing guys and they just break and scatter.

504
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: And so now you've got this mob of two three,

505
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, right wing extremists, I'm sure all committed libertarians,

506
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure all big liberty movement people, most of whom

507
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: are armed, many of them with firearms, running away from

508
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: like mostly teenagers with plastic shields. Um. And they run

509
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: for this group of so called libertarians runs for cover

510
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: to the I r S Building, okay, because it's where

511
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: all the federal agents were bunked up. So you see,

512
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: like all these right wing extremists run to the I

513
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: R S for help, help, help is theft um the

514
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: day the Feds were not willing to to protect them,

515
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: so they all just ran like funk away and it

516
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: was very funny, um. But it was a real, real win.

517
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: And now they're all fighting online about how things went

518
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: so badly, um, which is great and it it you know,

519
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: there were a number of things that it showcases. One

520
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: of them is that, like it was just incredibly dumb

521
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: of these people to think that, after all that these

522
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: protesters have been through, they could walk into Portland try

523
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: to engage them in a fight on in the same

524
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: way and and not get their asses kicked. You guys

525
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: have been doing this, You've been learning, yeah, I mean yeah,

526
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: there's the behavior, like all the videos of them trying

527
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: to intimidate you, even of like, well there are cops

528
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: there want to be cops. Basically, yeah, you want to

529
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: be cops, but like you're you're not nearly as scary

530
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: at cops. If you try to funk with me, I

531
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: can kick your ass and nothing will happen to me.

532
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: Like I a cop, there's a certain point at which

533
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: i just have to do what they say, otherwise I'm

534
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: going to get arrested or beaten and they will be

535
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: essentially like it will be very hard for me to

536
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: to secure any kind of remedy. I certainly cannot fight

537
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: back against a cop. I can choke you into unconsciousness

538
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: if you if you attempt to do certain things to me,

539
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: and I will be fine. Like if you if you

540
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: start beating me with a stick, and I cannot get away,

541
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: like I can do whatever I need to do to

542
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: take you down, and I like, I'm not scared of

543
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: you because you're not a cop and you're not even

544
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: good at shoving, Like not even good at shoving a

545
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: bunch of babies, like it's so important to them to

546
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: be seen fighting, and none of you were good at it,

547
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: like you're you're just just children. Um. I'm glad that

548
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: you seem to be in good spirits. I'm glad that

549
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: you have found the name of the person who assaulted you.

550
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: I am grossed out by so many things that you

551
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: have explained about this weekend. I think that we should

552
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: spend some time talking about the other protests we've seen

553
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: across the country over the past few days. Cody, you

554
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: were looking into some of the Save the Children Q

555
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: and on rallies that happened. I want to talk about

556
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: that a bit. Yeah, briefly, it's um, so many protests

557
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: over the weekend, Mike. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna uh

558
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: bring this home by talking about Kenosha and everything that

559
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: happened there. But this is important too. Yeah, this kind

560
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: of leads into it. Um. Just uh, as we talked

561
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: about last week, the Q stuff is going international. Um

562
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: there are protests. Yeah, we needed we needed every global

563
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: where they're globalists. You see Q and On as globalists.

564
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: Um and uh yeah so uh pretes in the UK

565
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: more than two Facebook Instagram events. We're calling for these

566
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: protests to happen, and they're not presented as Q and

567
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: non protests. And that's that's an important thing to note

568
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: because what they're advertised as as ah well one defund Hollywood,

569
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: which is fun. Um yeah, and save the children. And

570
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: I don't know so like if I were to which

571
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: is organization that has been around for decades, my father

572
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: used to work for nothing to do with Q and on.

573
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: Bet it has nothing to do with Q and On exactly. Um,

574
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: but if I were to go up to you and say, hey,

575
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: would you like to save the children? What would you

576
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: say to that? Oh? Absolutely not no they whatever. I look,

577
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: you're a person when you're eighteen, you know the university

578
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: of thought that you can find on this podcast. This

579
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: is what so insidious. I mean I mentioned that people

580
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: that I see in my feed and this is the

581
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: thing where people are like, I support Black Lives Matter,

582
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: but of course I want to save the children and

583
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh yeah, uh well it's and and it's

584
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: it's it's frustrating too because it's not necessarily like purposefully

585
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: insidious in all cases, because that's what these people believe

586
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: they're doing. Yeah, it's like if it's like if a

587
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: it's like if a support route group for like people

588
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: who were convicted like rapists. It's like if they decided

589
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: to like hold a rally to save the whales. It's like, yes,

590
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: the whales ought to be saved, but like, in no

591
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: way should you be the deliverer of this message, like

592
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: you should you shouldn't be here. Yeah, maybe like this

593
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: one out. Um, So you have all these people gathering

594
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: in Hollywood holding up signs for like save the children,

595
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: and people are honking because of course we want to

596
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: save the children. Um. But then amidst all these protesters,

597
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: you've got pizza gate signs, You've got Q and on signs,

598
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: You've got people talking about adrena chrome of course, uh,

599
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: frazzled drip, which I'm not even going to get into.

600
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: Um that's good. That was a new one for me. Um,

601
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: but we're not going to discuss what that is. U.

602
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: Sounds like some sort of muppet. Um, it might be.

603
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: We can't confirm to a point of legal certainty that

604
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: it isn't. Frazzle drip is a really anxious uh personification

605
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: of post nasal drip dr electric frazzled trip um. Yeah.

606
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: So uh and you know, people holding sounds like the

607
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: real pandemic is child trafficking um, which again, nobody likes

608
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: child trafficking. That's something we all agree on. Everyone's anti

609
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: child trafficking UM, but we don't all agree on what

610
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: is real. Yeah, is the child trafficking they think is happening.

611
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen. It's a fantasy. Yeah, face eating cannibal

612
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: people in government. Also, you're putting it in though in

613
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: a way where it's like in order to save the children,

614
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: I have to accept the fact that this pandemic is fake,

615
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: right anyway, and so so yeah, it was. It's just

616
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: a it's a concern I think because also you have

617
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: it's and it's part of it is optics. Right. You

618
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: have uh, these this movement, this q and On movement

619
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: that is a cult and it is dangerous and just

620
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: uh like last week a woman just followed people around

621
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: in her car and attacked, uh people with children because

622
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: she thought they were child sex trafficking. But it was

623
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: just people, there's this dangerous behavior happening, not at these protests,

624
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: so you don't have you're not able to like plaster

625
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: like look at the violence of the Q and On.

626
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: It's all part of this movement. It's not the the

627
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: outward facing UM face, which is the hey, child sex

628
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: trafficking is bad, which yes. So how many do you

629
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: know how many protests for Save the Children happened? I

630
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: don't know the total of it was. They were they

631
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: were everywhere everywhere, even here in Los Angeles. There was

632
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: a big one. Yeah, big one in Hollywood. Like I said,

633
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: there are some of the UK. A lot of people

634
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: in the UK were even like wait what is q

635
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: and On? Um, it's something that and this is something

636
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: also that uh I want to get into later um

637
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: in a later date probably, but just the the handling

638
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: of this by the media is not very good. Um.

639
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Even on MSNBC the end of day, they were joking

640
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: about how they they pronounced gonna bring that out there,

641
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: like well she was actually reading it off the prompter

642
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: and um and just went quaint on and then it

643
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: was like this moment of like I've never read it

644
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: and said it out loud and having this funny moment

645
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: but like just not don't talk so dangerous, yeah, um,

646
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: and just just sort of like is big because funnily enough,

647
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: a day after we recorded a podcast in which we

648
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: literally talked about how don't ask the president about Q

649
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: and on because no matter what he says, the view

650
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: to support somebody asked him about q and on the

651
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: next day, um, and he answered like one would expect

652
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: he would answer, um, although it was actually probably worse

653
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: than I would have imagined, because he said, like they're

654
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: great people and they're like trying to save the world

655
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah. It was like and if they support me,

656
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: then great, you know yeah, And it was yeah, basically

657
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: just like I you know, uh, they're good people and

658
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Um. And the question was very irresponsibly

659
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: asked too. It was like, so people think you're trying

660
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: to save the world from pedophiles. What do you say

661
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 1: to that? And it's like, well, of course he's gonna

662
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: say good because nobody likes pedophiles, right, Like, that's not

663
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: a that's not a responsible way to ask about this

664
00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: cult unless it's lane, in which case we wish her. Well, yeah,

665
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you want to check her, you want

666
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: you want to make sure she's okay. She's your friend, right,

667
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: Like sometimes your friends do things you don't approve of,

668
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: and you still they're still your friends. You know you're

669
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: not going to cut them out of your life. It's

670
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: a real like Sarah Silverman Louis c k situation. Yeah,

671
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: look like nobody's perfect. Like I've got friends who have

672
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: drinking problems, and is that really so different from helping

673
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: to run an international child molestation engine? I'm going to

674
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: go with yes, Okay, yeah, Okay, that might have been

675
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: a bad example. I have friends who listened to a

676
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: lot of nickelback. Is that really so much worse than

677
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: sexually trafficking hundreds of children? It's the same. It's morally identical, yea,

678
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: morally identical. So that was not great. And then the

679
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: aftermath of that was a bunch of people who don't

680
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: know what it is writing about it and talking about

681
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: how like oh these crazies and and all the like,

682
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: just uh, not really addressing what it is or the

683
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: problems with it, and more just like I can't believe

684
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: these people believe these things, um, which again is not

685
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: very helpful, um, and then laughing about how they don't

686
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: even know how to pronounce it. Yes, because that's how

687
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: you bring people into your fold. Yeah. Why traditional media

688
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: has repeatedly proven itself almost useless in terms of creating

689
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: a more just or even a better informed society because

690
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 1: it's so bad at actually knowing what to care about,

691
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: what to report on what like, like like it's for

692
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: one thing, just kind of the nature of the news

693
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: cycle means that none of these people are ever competent, right,

694
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: none of them know It's like Jake Tapper jumping into

695
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: the fucking Andy no thing. Um, yeah, I ever know

696
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: a goddamn thing about most of the stuff they report on,

697
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: and they have to report on everything. So you've got

698
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: these people who we have to do a Q and

699
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: on thing now, and it's never a question of should

700
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: we under stand went on and like what the actual

701
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: level of import is and people who have covered it

702
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: before like, no, we just have to fill ten minutes.

703
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: So that's a really good point properly, And it's something

704
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: that you know, I think that we've grappled with talking

705
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: about the news, especial Cody and I especially over the

706
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: past few years doing our show some more news and

707
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: even more news. And there was this decision that we

708
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: made early on where it was like, you know what,

709
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: in order to be responsible about some of this, we

710
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: don't always have to be uh leading on a story.

711
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: This is a little bit different, but in general, it

712
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: was like, let's be responsible, do the work and do

713
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: the research and make sure that this thing is really

714
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: uh accurate. And we have a different job than the

715
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 1: nightly news journalists, but we looked to them as these

716
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: people that have all the answers and can tell us

717
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: all the information that we need and they don't have it.

718
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: They don't know, you couldn't possibly you know, especially right

719
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: now and and there it's just highlights how irresponsible so

720
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: much reporting is right now. Yeah, and especially with Twitter,

721
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: it's so easy to fall into the twenty four hour

722
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: news disease. That didn't start with Twitter. It didn't start

723
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: this year or in Steen started a long time ago.

724
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: But this is kind of yeah, this is this is

725
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: the kind of logical conclusion to that it's the next

726
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: the next step, and don't just rush for a thing.

727
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: And that's what everybody did. When the President was foolishly

728
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: asked publicly about Q and on um. And one of

729
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: the main things, like one of the like Q and

730
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: On has a lot of different points of entry. We

731
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: talked about this a lot last week, and one of

732
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: those points of entry for the movement is the media

733
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: and how people don't trust the media. Um. And there

734
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: are reasons to not trust a lot of the media

735
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: and a lot like a lot of the interviews with

736
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: people at this Hollywood protests, like yeah, I started doing

737
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: research into this because I don't trust the media. Um.

738
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: And this is like the presents asked about Q and

739
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: on all these protests. This happened during the d n

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Speaker 1: C where Bill Clinton spoke uncritically, spoke to the nation

741
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: like with support from the party, and Bill Clinton was

742
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: very good friends with jeff Epstein. Like we don't need

743
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: to get into that, but like that is that is

744
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: a problem getting backrubs by some of the people who

745
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: have accused Jeffrey Epstein of sexually trafficking them, Like yes,

746
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: he's a problem, right, yes, the day of it and

747
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: and that kind of that kind of thing is not helpful.

748
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: And if you have people sort of like just jumping

749
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: into this not really knowing or caring what it is about,

750
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: and and sort of dismissing it while at the same

751
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: time being like, oh, Bill Clinton making a comeback. Excuse me,

752
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: that's not helping at all. We need to be able

753
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: to call things what they are and look at that

754
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: and go maybe he shouldn't speaking, maybe he should be

755
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: in prison. But so so there's so they're all these

756
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: sort of like this confluence of like just like all

757
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: these things that bring people into Q and on who mean, well,

758
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: they don't trust the media for various reasons. They think

759
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: they want to protect the children, which is a good thing.

760
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: One quote I think is very telling and is part

761
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: of just sort of this problem that we've been talking

762
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: about with this and in general. At this protest, someone said, quote,

763
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: I love the hope and the perspective it offers. I

764
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: love that it's not this negative, beat down approach to

765
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: try to force agendas. Q is very much inviting inclusive um,

766
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: and that is what you see at their protests aside

767
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: like there's some maga people and there's some like you know,

768
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: Proud Boy stuff, Like you're saying, like there were some

769
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 1: que people at the Proud Boy protest um, but outwardly, uh,

770
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: it's like it is a cult. So it is going

771
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: to be inclusive. It is going to be inviting. They

772
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: do want more and more people to join. They do

773
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: think they're doing this good thing. Uh, the pro like

774
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: as part of the protest ended here in Hollywood by

775
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of people singing amazing grace. You know you can't.

776
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: But but contrast that with a clip that is widely

777
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: going around now, of course, and it's going to be

778
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: plastered on conservative media as proof of everything else being wrong. Um,

779
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: it's this BLM protest and I think d C and

780
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: it's this crowd of people, uh basically like descending on

781
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: this woman at a diner eating and shouting like an

782
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: inch from her face, demanding that she put her fist

783
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: up in support of their protests. Very dumb, very aggressive,

784
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: very white white violence. Yeah, and just like there, it's

785
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: very aggressive, and um, it's it's not going to convince

786
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: that woman of anything. If anything, it will push her away.

787
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: It certainly doesn't protest state violence. Like if you're protesting

788
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: state violence, well in the um, maybe this woman isn't

789
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: the target for that. When she was interviewed, the woman

790
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: made it clear, like I've actually marched in a lot

791
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: of bell and rallies, like I just didn't feel comfortable

792
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: putting my arm up because a group of strangers rushed

793
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: me at a restaurant and demanded it, which is I

794
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: would not have I I've been out at these protests,

795
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, fifty sixty times at least. I would not

796
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: want to um do it in that situation because that's

797
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: deeply uncomfortable. I never I am never going to want

798
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: to do something that a crowd of strangers rushes up

799
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,479
Speaker 1: and demand demands that I do, screaming in your face,

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00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: demand you do that exactly, like I don't care if

801
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: I support the cause, Like, fuck you, you don't get

802
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: to do that to me. Not how humans work. Yeah, um,

803
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's just a it's it's stopped. First

804
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: of all, stop doing that ship, come on. Um. But

805
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: also contrast that with these people who are like really

806
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: dangerous and like unhinged and in this weird death cult.

807
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: Um seeing amazing grace and talking about how inviting and

808
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: inclusive it it is. And like the media, you can't

809
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: trust the media because the Bill Clinton ship like it's uh,

810
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: the the optics. Uh, the difference is very stark. Um.

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00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: The contrast is there, and it's something to consider. If

812
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 1: you're out protesting state violence and bothering some random woman

813
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,479
Speaker 1: having a meal outside. All right, we need to take

814
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: a quick break and then we're gonna come back and

815
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: talk about Kenosha. Also, apologies to our listeners if you

816
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: can hear the heavy metal in the background. It is

817
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: out of my control and it's out of control. Yeah. Yeah,

818
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: together everything, and we are now officially back from that. Um,

819
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: the heavy metal has died out for the moment. Hopefully

820
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: that made me not in our hearts, just in this

821
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: physical space that I currently exist in. Um, let's talk

822
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: about Kenosha. Um. Oh, this is a story. Uh. I'm

823
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: sure you guys have seen coverage and talk about this,

824
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: but we're going to dig in and make sure you

825
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: know all the all of it. So on Sunday evening

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00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: in Kenosha, Wisconsin, police officers shot a black man named

827
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: Jacob Blake seven times in the back as he got

828
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: into his car with his family, where his three children

829
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: were already in the vehicle. Three children, um seven times.

830
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: As of this recording, Jacob is still alive, but paralyzed. UM.

831
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: This is from the New York Times to describe the incident.

832
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: In a video taken from an apartment window. Across the street,

833
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: several several officers can be seen standing on a sidewalk

834
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: next to a four door suv. The man identified as

835
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: Mr Blake, wearing a white tank top and black shorts,

836
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: is seen walking along the passenger side of the vehicle

837
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: away from the officers, who are yelling. At least one

838
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: of them points a gun at him. Mr Blake walks

839
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: around the front of the vehicle and opens the driver's

840
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: side door. Several people can be heard yelling, and one

841
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: officer is seen grabbing Mr Blake's shirt As Mr Blake

842
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: opens the vehicle store at least half a dozen shots

843
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: are heard, while at least two officers can be seen

844
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: with their guns pointed at him. The video, which is

845
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: about twenty seconds long and shortly after the shooting. So

846
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: what did Jacob do to warrant this response? According to witnesses,

847
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: he was trying to break up a fight and get

848
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: his kids out of there. This is from The Daily Beast.

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00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: A witness said the scene quickly turned chaotic, describing a

850
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: group of officers rushing an officer who fired the shots

851
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: into a waiting squad car, which sped away. Protesters assembled

852
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: immediately later, throwing bricks and bottles at police who answered

853
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: with tear gas. The whole thing went viral very quickly,

854
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: like it did with Georgeoidh and by that evening, hundreds

855
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: of angry Yeah. I can remember, just to break in

856
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: for I can remember I was at a meeting with

857
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of local press in Portland. We're all having

858
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: like a meeting and talking together at a restaurant. And

859
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: I think it was my colleague Sergio who showed me

860
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: the video when it was at maybe two hundred thousand views, um,

861
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: and he was like, I think this is going to

862
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: be like the next And sure enough, you know, by

863
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: that evening they were lighting you know, buildings on fire. Yeah,

864
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: it's just it's the same thing over and over again. Um.

865
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: By that by Sunday evening, hundreds of angry protesters had

866
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: gathered downtown. Um, you know, lighting garbage trucks on fire,

867
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: shattering shop windows, that kind of thing. I mean, you

868
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: guys are all familiar now what happens when when people

869
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: are murdered and nobody listens, um, and when nothing changes.

870
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: Uh No, this seems totally unpredictable to me. Who could

871
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: have guessed at the thing that repeatedly happens now would

872
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: happen again? That everybody is still very angry and has has.

873
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: I thought the police had used enough tiar guests to

874
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: solve this problem. Apparently not. Um. The officers involved in

875
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: the shooting have not been arrested or fired placed on

876
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 1: administrative leave. Also, I don't have all the specifics here,

877
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: but this is a long time coming there. Apparently there

878
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: has been so much corruption and police uh shootings and

879
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: lack of justice. Um. But anyway, things escalated from there.

880
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: It does, doesn't it? Monday night? Uh, you know, everything

881
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: once again erupted. Um. It started off with peaceful protests

882
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: and I can't stress that enough peaceful protests that later

883
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: turned into what we will call riots um after police

884
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: got involved. But yes, um, the organizers were very adamant

885
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: about things being peaceful and you know, shouting we're not

886
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: doing anything to you. But they also talked about how

887
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: they were prepared for the probability that things would escalate

888
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: once police got involved. UM. So you know, the typical

889
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: things happened. Curfew was put into place, the National Guard

890
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: was brought in. When people didn't disperse to your gas

891
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: was fired. As we know that doesn't deter protesters anymore.

892
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: It just ramps things up, and what happens next is

893
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: heartbreaking and predictable. Uh. Businesses were set on fire, smashed up,

894
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: probation and provole parole office was burnt down a parking lot.

895
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: That one that one's not so hard for, not hardly,

896
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: that one actually ruled. Yeah, you know that one's fine.

897
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,760
Speaker 1: At one point, organizers were telling people that a Blue

898
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: Lives Matter counter protest was also happening. This is from

899
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: the Daily Beast again quote. Organizers told the crowd that

900
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: they had heard Blue Lives Matter counter protesters were on

901
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: the scene and urged protesters to remain peaceful and to

902
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: look out for children. At one point, a car surged

903
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: into the crowd and was abruptly blocked by activists, initiating

904
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: in igniting angry shouts as the crowd chanted black Lives matter. Um.

905
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: The crowd continue to march, forcing the car back, definantly

906
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: chanting black Lives matter. Has the evening went on, protesters

907
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: started protecting themselves behind a homemade barricade with umbrellas and

908
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: you know would as officers fired projectiles at them. A

909
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: lot of people got hurt. Medics were called to the scene. Um,

910
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: and this didn't just happen in Kenosha. Of course, this

911
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: was the epicenter of of these protests, but there were

912
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: protests in several cities in America. Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers

913
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: has condemned the shooting, calling for a special legislative session

914
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: to take action. Um, you know, with several bills aimed

915
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: to reduce police fatality. Yeah, are you saying that maybe

916
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: you get immediate legislative action when buildings are on fire.

917
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: Seems like it seems like that gets their attention. Well.

918
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: He also includes a ban on police choke holds and

919
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: no doc search warrants, which is, of course, you know

920
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: there should be a ban on is cops shooting people

921
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: in exactly like that really would not have helped this situation.

922
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: But I think it's interesting that immediately the Kenosha Professional

923
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: Police Association responded to the governor uh defending the Sunday

924
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: incident and called Ever's decision wholly irresponsible. Uh. Okay, Yeah,

925
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: that's so, is there is the responsible thing to shoot

926
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: more people in the back. I have a feeling that's

927
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: what he'd say. Yeah, they didn't say it, but it's

928
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: the unsaid thing that really sings here. I'm just gonna

929
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: throw this in on on Monday, Joe Biden, are Democratic nominee,

930
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: called for an immediate, full and transparent investigation. Uh and

931
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: also the dismantling of systemic racism. Um how how how? Yes.

932
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: But we can compare this with his former former primary

933
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: rival Bernie Sanders, who tweeted that the copsy shot Blake

934
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 1: should be fired, arrested, and prosecuted to the fullest extent

935
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: of the law. I put this in there just underscore that, yes,

936
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is the guy who's going to dismantle the

937
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: police and plunge our country into You mean, the guy

938
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: who bolstered the cartial straight state for his entire career

939
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: until this very moment. Yeah, the guy who, in the

940
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: wake of George Floyd uh, thinks that we should give

941
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: more money to the police. The guy who I'm sorry

942
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: last week he was being interviewed about this and he

943
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 1: Adam was like, I don't want to defund the police.

944
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: I want to give more money to the police. You

945
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: know who wants to defund the police? Donald Trump? Is

946
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: what he said. Wow, Yeah, It's it's one of those things,

947
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: like some of my reporting I've talked about how you know,

948
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: I have reported on actions is effective or ineffective? You know,

949
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: and those actions involved mild arson right like and p

950
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: All of the buildings that have been lit on fire

951
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: in Portland have been like mild, very mild damage and

952
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: generally like just for show. I've never seen anyone seriously

953
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: attempt to immolate a building and burn it down. Um.

954
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: Which isn't to say that I like, I actually actually

955
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: really dislike it every time those fires tend to be

956
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: lit because I just worry about fire in general. I

957
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: fought a couple of out of control fires, and I'm

958
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: concerned when people mess around with fire. Um. But at

959
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,959
Speaker 1: the same time, no one has provided me with any

960
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: evidence of anything that actually works better for achieving legislative change. Like.

961
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: That's the lesson that's being continually taught to the people

962
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: of this the particularly young people of this country, is

963
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: that the only thing that they don't ignore is proper destruction.

964
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: So what else do you do? Yeah, I mean that

965
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 1: that building that was reduced to rubble on the side

966
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: of it, said, are you listening yet? Yeah? Yes, I

967
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: mean look at Minneapolis, Yes, yes, look at Minneapolis. Look

968
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: at Seattle where they let the construction site for that

969
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 1: youth prison on fire. UM. That's the lesson people keep

970
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: being taught is that we will fight and refuse and

971
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: laugh at you and mock you if you ask for

972
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 1: any kind of meaningful change unless you burn buildings down,

973
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: in which case you get what you want more or less.

974
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,720
Speaker 1: And I don't like this reality. I would I would

975
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: prefer that we, as the twenty one century society, have

976
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: other ways of achieving change. But the people who are

977
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: in the lovers of power, particularly the police unions UM

978
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: and the politicians who are afraid of them, have made

979
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: it very clear for decades that no, they will, they

980
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: refuse any kind of change, and so what what They've

981
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: left people with no other options but to do what

982
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: they're doing in Kenosha, Right, it's the only thing left.

983
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: And maybe not the lesson that they want to be teaching,

984
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: like the lesson. Yeah, yeah, I mean I agree with

985
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: everything you guys are saying. I think it's obviously this

986
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: The people that have been interviewed in the articles covering

987
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: this don't speak for everyone, but there seems to be

988
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are heartbroken at what's happening

989
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: in their community, sick about the loss, the damage is

990
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: sustained to businesses and property, and supportive of it and

991
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: frustrated that it comes to this because they get it.

992
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: And again that's not everybody, I'm sure, but in general,

993
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: people in these communities are like, yeah, we live under this.

994
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: This has to fucking change. And also it should be

995
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: noted that Blake's shooting came just a couple of days

996
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: after a black man named Treyford Palerin was killed by

997
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: police in Lafayette, Louisiana as he was walking away from officers.

998
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: The cops fired eleven bullets at him outside of a

999
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: gas station when they were responding to a disturbance. Uh,

1000
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: involving a man with a knife. Um, stop shooting people

1001
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: in the back. So many but and I say this

1002
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: does this happened two days ago, two days before, uh,

1003
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: this other incident, But like it's been happening, it never

1004
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: stopped happening. Um, it's so frustrating. And I keep thinking

1005
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: this weekend, as as I've been watching the news, what

1006
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: you've said throughout the summer, Robert, is that you feel

1007
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: like it's going to come to a head again in August.

1008
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: Here are it does seem to be Uh, it sure

1009
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: seems to be coming to a head. Like Kenosha is

1010
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: pretty wild right now. Um, the protests in Portland are

1011
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: not calming down. I will probably have another fight with

1012
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: right wingers. Um, I suspect there will be another, I

1013
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: suspect Before this month is over, at least one or

1014
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: two more cities will erupt in the way that Chicago

1015
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: and Kenosha have over another shooting. Maybe more. Um, this

1016
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: is just the world. Yeah, it's also it's over a shooting,

1017
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: but it's also over the reaction to the shooting. It's

1018
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: over public officials response to the shooting. Really sparks these things.

1019
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: If by the time a video like that started to

1020
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: go viral, the cop behind it was in fucking chains

1021
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: in a jail cell being charged with murder, um, you

1022
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: would see a lot less ship getting sucked up, especially

1023
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: if a couple of those guys got convicted and people

1024
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: saw no, no, no, this isn't just for show. When

1025
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: cops do this, ship, they lose their whole life. Like

1026
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: that's what needs to happen in conjunction with like, yeah,

1027
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: we're going to use some of these funds that the

1028
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: police get every year to do this instead, it will

1029
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: help people um. Yeah. Also, the administrative leave is how

1030
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: you get what's going on, not like, oh, look at him,

1031
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: he's in handcuffs. It's a cop. It happened. Yeah, No,

1032
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: you guys are correct, Of course you're correct. That would

1033
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: change everything. It would show that people's concerns are actually

1034
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: being heard, that they cared, but they don't. Yeah, I mean,

1035
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, And it would just it would be, It

1036
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: would honestly be. It would not be nearly enough if

1037
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: they were to just be arresting these police, because there's massive,

1038
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: much more systemic problems than individual officers. But on a

1039
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: tactical level, it would defray a lot of the anger

1040
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: and the fact that they're not even willing to do that.

1041
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: They're not even willing to push for legitimate punishment for

1042
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: someone who's obviously committed a crime, shows that they don't

1043
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: care about law and order. They want to be a

1044
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: separate class of human being in our society who is

1045
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: immune to any kind of consequences for their actions, and

1046
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 1: who gets to do harm to whoever they want they

1047
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: want to. There was a moment last weekend during the

1048
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: protests where protesters are being driven away by police and

1049
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: they were like marching compliantly, and police were like shoving

1050
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: and hitting people, and in order to keep together, all

1051
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: of the members of the crowd who were getting away

1052
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: from these cops as quickly as possible like linked arms

1053
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: and held each other as they moved to stay together

1054
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: and stopped from getting like pulled apart or knocked apart

1055
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: or lost in a gas cloud. And one of the

1056
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: officers on the bullhorn said, holding each other's hands is

1057
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: unlawful behavior, like like you, just like they they think

1058
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: they get to make that. That his how they that

1059
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: is the average police office. They get to make what

1060
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: they believe, whatever they feel is the law, and they

1061
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: want they are willing to fight and kill to maintain

1062
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: that privilege. Um And again, the lesson that they've repeatedly

1063
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: taught the country is that all we listen to is

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Speaker 1: when you light our things on fire. You know. I

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Speaker 1: saw a video of a police officer get hit in

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Speaker 1: the head with a damn brick and he dropped, like

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Speaker 1: I said, and I'm sure he's got permanent damages or

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Speaker 1: is all to it. And my question was what did

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Speaker 1: he expect would happen when he aligned himself with the

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Speaker 1: force that walks through neighborhood shooting people in the back,

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Speaker 1: that he'd be able to walk around safely in those neighborhoods.

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Speaker 1: Is that how he thought that would go. Because if

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Speaker 1: that's the case, then he's ignoring ten thousand years of

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Speaker 1: how human beings react to occupying armies. Yeahs Brianna Taylor, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that'd be good. It seems it seems like a helpful

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Speaker 1: thing too. Also, this is not a new point, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure it's a point that so many of our listeners

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Speaker 1: have made. Shouldn't just be this outrage when it's a

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Speaker 1: black person who's done nothing wrong. It should be this

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Speaker 1: outrage for anybody that's being killed during an interaction with

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Speaker 1: police officers. They don't get to sentence somebody to a

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Speaker 1: death sentence. That's not their job description. It's this idea

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Speaker 1: that like, yeah, because now there's people being like trying

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Speaker 1: to pull up this guy's criminal history or whatever like

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Speaker 1: they always do um or pointing out like you should

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Speaker 1: have just done what officers say. And if you're that

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Speaker 1: kind of person, if you will look even if they're wrong,

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Speaker 1: you just do what the cops say. You're saying that

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Speaker 1: it we live in a society where there's a group

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Speaker 1: of people who get to go around and murder people

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Speaker 1: if they aren't obeyed instantaneously and whatever they command, And

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Speaker 1: that's not a free society. Also, why do we think

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Speaker 1: that a black person will trust or any person, but

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Speaker 1: especially a black person in this in this America, any

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Speaker 1: version of America. How do we expect that they trust

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Speaker 1: a police officer won't kill them? Anyway? How do you

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Speaker 1: trust that they're going to be not brutalized in front

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Speaker 1: of their family if they just comply, You can't, No,

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Speaker 1: you can't contrust them at all because their liars. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's kenosha as of many different kinds of protest this weekend.

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Speaker 1: My goodness, the protest episode. A lot going on in

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Speaker 1: the streets, not a lot going on in the election,

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Speaker 1: which is still the literal fascist versus the man who

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Speaker 1: wasn't even a good candidate twenty years ago. Fun, great, fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And the RNC is really something else, just like it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not. I don't have the emotional bandwidth for the RNC.

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Speaker 1: You guys can tune into even more news later this

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Speaker 1: week and we will talk all about the r n

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Speaker 1: C and other things. Because I don't want to do

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Speaker 1: a whole episode on it, but we will cover it.

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Speaker 1: But I think that does it for us here today.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more, could not agree more with you.

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Speaker 1: I could agree more or but I'm gonna make you

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Speaker 1: work for it. Yeah, okay, well how about this. You

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Speaker 1: can find us online at Worst Year pod, on Instagram

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Speaker 1: and Twitter. You can follow us. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: give our handles. You guys know it by now. You

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Speaker 1: know where we live online? Yeah, find us hit us

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Speaker 1: up with them like Google the word online. Yeah, or

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Speaker 1: simply look at the Google, Cody dot Internet at Netscape

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Speaker 1: dot org, Backslash and Carter Best exactly. That's how you

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Speaker 1: find all of us. Cody is a collective made up

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Speaker 1: of Katie get into some sci fi ship here. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's it, Play us out us everything Everything

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