1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys flowing out of 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: the backfield, the flooding down the sidelines. This He's Hanging 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: with the Boys, presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets 5 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, 6 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: and Shannon Gross Thursday eleven thirty. And you know what 7 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: that means. It is time for the people show Hanging 8 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: with the Boys. You're looking live at Tostito's Championship Plaza 9 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: outside Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. Looks weird 10 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: out there, man, looks really weird. Weird color sixty seven degrees, 11 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: the highest seventy three. The low to night is sixty. Chris. 12 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: Something weird is going on in my ears? Is them 13 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: boards on the ground up there? We go. No, that's uh, 14 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: that's concrete. I think it's I think it's wet. Yeah, 15 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: that's wet. So wait, why y'all buttoned up today? Nate? Yeah, 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: I just finish doing his show. Man, he's just doing 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: his special edition thing. Man, And uh, you look good. 18 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: Why did you take your tie off? Well? I took 19 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: it all off. Man, because I know my boy loon. 20 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait, don't ruin it. Hurry up, hurt, 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: How are you doing. I'm good, I'm good. You're gonna 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: hurry up? All right. We would like to welcome to 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: the show for the next two days someone that's familiar 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys and the Giants, although he basically had 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee in New York and we'll talk 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: about that too. Freak up our favorite offensive linemen of 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: all time, Johmbo Joe Looney, welcome on the show too. 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: That's up, man. I appreciate the guy's ass. How have 29 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: you been. I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Do those 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: headphones fit over the hair? They do? They do? You know, 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: I didn't wear my head band today, you know, to 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: get to get the swag out, you know. Okay, I 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: like it and uh but but but they feel great. 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: You know, these bows are really nice. They're coming, you know. 35 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: You know, I got some good news and I got 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: some bad news. And the good news is that Luny 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: is on our show. The good news is that he 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: did not play for the Giants. The bad news is 39 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: when you left, Man, you left a gap for Jason 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: Garrett Man I know boy. Yeah, yeah, man, he ouched 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: from me. That's what I'm saying. You know when I 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: when I went into his office. Man, you know, me 43 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: and me and Coach Garrett, we really we got we 44 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: got emotional right, right, man, because I'm you know, Coach 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: Garrett was my guy. You know, we joked on each other, 46 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: laughed with each other, and you know, when I was 47 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: telling him I was retired, that was probably you know 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: the hardest thing that I had to do was to 49 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: tell him, yeah that I'm done, right and uh but 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: you know what, man, hopefully our past cross again, you know, 51 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: because I love Coach Garrett. Man, it was a good dude, 52 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: you know, I know he vouched for me up there, 53 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: and hopefully I can see him again one day. In 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: Shane's hand, Yeah, I'm good. Tell us talk us to 55 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: I think we know me and Nate know your story 56 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: because you were on cross Talk with us one night. 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: But talk us through how you kind of departed here, 58 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: how you wound up in New York, how long your 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: stay was, what that was like, and then and then 60 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: how you wound up in the studio today. Yeah. So basically, 61 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, we got done with the twenty twenty season 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: and you know I still wanted to play a year. 63 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know, you know, I was still I was 64 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: up in the air a little bit about playing. But um, 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, I waited until summer came around. Training camps 66 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: kind of started, and the Giants called me and wanted 67 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: to pick me up. And I was like, you know, 68 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never said no to playing some football. 69 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: So you know, I went out there and man, boy, 70 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: I tell you what, it was a long time. I 71 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: was there a long time. Four day Oh yeah, you know, 72 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: I got my contracts worth out of the Giants, and uh, 73 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: I was up there, man, And I was missing my wife, 74 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: I was missing my kids, and you know I had 75 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: to in the back of my mind my son's first 76 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: football season. I wanted to be there for him. And 77 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, I made the decision to retire. It was tough, though. 78 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: It was tough, man, you know. I remember. I remember 79 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: Alfred Morris was there, and I remember walking off the 80 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: field thinking, man, you know, just like I was. I 81 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: was trying to take it all in, just trying to 82 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: smell the grass and whatnot. But I did nate, I did, 83 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: you know. NFL practices are tough. I did have a 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: thought in there to just be you know what, I'm 85 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: done with practice. You know, I'm gonna say my backs 86 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: hurt and then I'm out here, you know. But I 87 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'm betta give the game. 88 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give the game everything you gave me. So 89 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: I finished the practice. But you knew before practice I'm done. 90 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: You know. It was when I walked, we were we 91 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: were doing one on ones, we were doing five on four, right, 92 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: and you know, this is a drill where the defense 93 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: and offensive line you're just you're killing each other, right, 94 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, it is just you know, it is a 95 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: full on war. You know, the defense knows its past. 96 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: And as the center, you're sitting there in the middle 97 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: and you're just taking hits. You know, it's just you 98 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: can't do anything. You're just getting beat up. And I'm 99 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm getting hitting. I don't know if 100 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: it's just for me anymore. I don't know if I want, 101 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: you know, three hundred pound grown man hitting me, you know, 102 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: especially big Lawrence up there. Man, I'm just like, oh good. 103 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: So you know I sat there and I knew then 104 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, you know what, after this practice, 105 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: this is gonna be it. You know, I'm gonna I'm 106 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna tell the guys in the morning. And uh but 107 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: but I told myself, you know, I'm gonna finish this practice, 108 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: give the game, give the game what it deserves. And 109 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: lo and behold, blessed Joe, how blessed him. I we 110 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 1: got to do some condition and after practice, and growing 111 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: up in Little league, you know, as a as a 112 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: big man, I won't say, you know, I don't know 113 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: if we say fat on this fat, I'm gonna sat 114 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: he says fat all the time. But as a big 115 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: kid growing up running laps in little league, you know, 116 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: we practice at a baseball field, So running laps, I 117 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: was probably the worst thing that ever happened to me. 118 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: You know. My dad was my coach, and I would 119 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: look at him, you know, he running the lap, and 120 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: I'd look at him me, you know, in my little 121 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: eight year old mind. You know, my my little eight 122 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: year old mom was really giving him the business that 123 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: you think I'm telling us to run a lot. And 124 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: so I finished my career conditioning, running, you know, across 125 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, And it was it was only right. 126 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: It was only right at that time to be like, 127 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, this is this is why I got 128 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: this is it. God's telling me this is done. So 129 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: you know I got a really hard conditioning, wasn't it? 130 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: Didn't I think? Remember reading like he put you guys 131 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: to the paces. That does Yeah he did. Boy, you know, 132 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: I understand why Coach Judge did it. You know, I 133 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: understand why he did it. But even in the back 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: of my mind, I'm sitting there running the sprints and 135 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, literally there, no, I'm on the so do 136 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: this rutted laps? Do it? Push ups? You gotta be 137 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: kicked me. But it was fun though. It was fun man. 138 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: Like I said, you know, I took I took it 139 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: all in, you know, really really, when I unstrapped that 140 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: helmet for the last time, you know, took my cleats off, 141 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: I made sure, you know, I got that smell of 142 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: the grass. And I'll never forget it. I'll never forget 143 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: walking off that field knowing like, hey, this was the 144 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: last time I was buttoning up my tens strap, putting 145 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: on my pads to play organized football. You know who knows? 146 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: I might? I might. I might you know, get into 147 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: a flag league around here. People, yeah, talk to me, 148 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, people might see me, and you know it 149 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: might not think that. You know this guy, you know, 150 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: he's got some pounds on him, but you know, little 151 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: due they now, I'm gonna be out there CD laming, 152 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: so I'll get back to playing some organized flag football, 153 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, giving them the masses out here. Yeah, when 154 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: did you know it was over? Nate? When were you done? 155 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: H Wow? I was in I was in the Carolina 156 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: Pounces camp and uh and I and I you know what, 157 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: I give you my aid because I ain't had a 158 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: guts to quit. I just was floating through up there 159 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: with coach Wise. You know that's Jesus. But fortunate for me, 160 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: they didn't want me to play. They just wanted me 161 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: to do Boy. Yes, sir, that's a good thing. And 162 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: I got through the year. I got there, got you know, 163 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: so the surgeon, I'm try and I was happy. You 164 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: tell us about what happen when I you know, I 165 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: was the biggest highest Paige cheer leader when that thing 166 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: was over. And uh, my agent coming to hey man, 167 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to negotiate something. But then I don't want 168 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: to do that, and I said, thank you because I 169 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: don't want to tune that. Yeah, ran you so yeah, 170 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: I was happy when it was over because you know, man, yeah, yeah, 171 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, but you know when your skills had though, 172 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: was your skills hadn't erode it? My skills? Oh they 173 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: were through. Yeah, my skills were through. When did Kurt? 174 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: When did you decide to quit? I'm still working on that. 175 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: Are Ain't you a baseball extraordinary? I wouldn't say extraordinaire, 176 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: but I'm a fan. What was your big thing, Shanna? What? 177 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: Sports wise? What was your baseball? I was so small 178 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: when I was fifteen. I was five three way one 179 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: hundred and three. But what about now? So what about now? 180 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: I five four way one hundred and seven? Take some 181 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: of that. I was so small, Like I played I 182 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: played football one season and my best friend was a big, 183 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: big guy. Yeah, and he fell on me one practice 184 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: and his knee drove into my thigh on and I 185 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: got like a deep thigh bruise, and I was like, 186 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: this is not for me, Like I'm done. I'm gonna 187 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: finish the year out right, but I'm done. And I 188 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: kind of regret that because I wound up growing a 189 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: little bit and I was really fast. I was really quick, 190 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: and I think I probably could have played D two 191 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: or D three, probably could have played slot, maybe maybe 192 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: even corner. Julian Edelman. Yeah, just you know, I was, 193 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: I was. I wasn't long distance fast, but like off 194 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: the line, I could, I could get it. Oh yeah, 195 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: And I kind of regret that I played basketball for 196 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: one year about the same time, and then I just 197 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: I decided, like baseball is my thing. I gonna stick 198 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: with baseball. So yeah, I just but wow, yeah that 199 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: was it. So Chris, do you play any sports besides bags? Man? 200 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: I played football? Yeah, I ran track, did you Yeah, 201 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: I play football, And that's a long time ago, wasn't 202 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: it nineties? Shot put track? Non? Did you ever go 203 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: hunting as a kid, Chris, of course? So yeah, yeah, 204 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: Oka cornholes like a professional sport. Now good good, he 205 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: was good, let's go. Hey, what's up? Challenged me. I 206 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: had a I went to get my hair cut a 207 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: few years ago and the kid was kid was sitting 208 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: in the chair next to me and the you know, 209 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: the girl he's probably he was probably twelve, and the 210 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: girls cutting his hair talking to him. She's like, what 211 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: do you know, what do you want to do when 212 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: you get older? And he's like, you know, I really 213 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: like this cornhole stuff. It's like, I think I want 214 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: to be a professional cornhole player. I'm like, are you 215 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: freaking kids? Like kids are wanting to grow up and 216 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: be cornhole players. Well, I'll tell you what. I got 217 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: a great story about cornhole because I'm a competitor deep inside. 218 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: And me and Tyron we we met these people from 219 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: UH in Dallas and they were they were wonderful, but 220 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: they lived in this beautiful neighborhood and they were throwing 221 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: UH their daughter a birthday party. And me, tying my sister. 222 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: We went over to their house and you know, they 223 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: had these cornhole boards and all little kids are coming 224 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: to play corn hoole and whatnot, you know, And I'm 225 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: looking and I'm looking at Tyring. I'm like, hey, these 226 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: kids step up on these boards. You know, you try 227 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: to give him. You know, you're gonna get this competitor 228 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: out of me. So long story short, man, Me and Tyring. 229 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: You know Tyring can play some cornhole. Yeah, yeah, that 230 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: was my partner. Boy man, boy, you just about we 231 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: will go on there. You know, Johnsonville Sausage. Just put 232 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: us on there. Man, give us the t church we're 233 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: gonna does he put the bionic arm on when he played. 234 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: It might help him out. It might help out because 235 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, Tyran's got all that strength, he just 236 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: throws it over, throws it over the board. But man, 237 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: what you know? Heck of a partner. But those kids 238 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: stepped up on them boards, man, and they figured out 239 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: real quick the same game. Boy, you gotta come correct 240 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: if you don't get bad, and you need to get 241 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: a guy for Chris. You need to get with Chris. 242 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: Chrison in the league. He's in the cornhole league. I 243 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: didn't realize that, Yeah, we got to do this, might 244 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: have an partner, Chris. Let's all right, what's the contract 245 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: offered me? So it's the best type believe you get. 246 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: You get your name on a trophy that stays at 247 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: the bar for the rest of your life. It's like 248 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup, the Cornhole Cup. I got my name 249 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: on the cup like four times. Do you really that's awesome? 250 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: I tell you what, Chris, Let's take an early break 251 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: and we come back. 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All right, Nate, So 308 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: this is a great show because everyone in the world 309 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: is griping about the offensive line and Dak Prescott is 310 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: trash right now? Is what the what the world thinks? 311 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: What do you think? We have two offensive lineman, one 312 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: that's freshly removed from this this this environment and this 313 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: organization and still knows all the guys on the team 314 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: are there any offensive lineman you don't know, I don't 315 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: think so I take. I think I pretty much know everybody, 316 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: all the guys. So what is your assessment, Nate, and 317 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: then we'll get to you, Joe. What do you think 318 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: about the offensive line and where it's at right now? 319 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: I think this here and I'm just gonna give you 320 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: an overall view of what I think is when you 321 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: can rush thirty five times and be right at three 322 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: point nine four yards carry and have one hundred and 323 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: twenty two yards and you pass blocked decent. And this 324 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: last team didn't have the two great defensive ends, but 325 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: they had two guys in the middle, and you you 326 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: hammered this out. You you made this, And I think 327 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: that don't stop shuffling, get you right tackle, get your 328 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: left guard, let's go because stop shuffling. Yeah, you said 329 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: don't stop shuffling, but you say right, yeah, lock them in. Now. 330 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: I think offensive line is okay because this is thirty 331 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: two teams and I think we're probably still one of 332 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: the top fifteen offensive line teams. So that's what I feel, 333 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: just the overview and not being specific on any player. 334 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: That's what I feel because Coach Field and I think 335 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: is a decent coach and he'll figure it out. That's 336 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: what I believe. Yeah, so I think from from an 337 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: offensive lineman standpoint, I think that you know, the offensive 338 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: line is gonna have the finger pointed at them. You know, 339 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: they're the biggest guys on the team, and you know 340 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna have the finger pointed at them. And always 341 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: always found it like, yo, yeah, point the point the 342 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: finger at us. You know that we got big shoulders. 343 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: We can handle this. You know we're not We're not soft. 344 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: We ain't gonna run away crying. You know, we're gonna 345 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: strap up our pad, strap up our helm and come 346 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: to work every day. And dude, we need to do. 347 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: But I think if you criticize one guy, you criticize 348 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: the whole group. You know, because the offensive line, as 349 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: we know, is the only it's the only really unit 350 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: on the team. You know, you gotta you gotta be 351 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: in unisons when you're playing. And so if you you 352 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: criticize one guy, you're criticizing the whole group. And I 353 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: always found criticism is something good. You know, people see 354 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: it as something you know, it's it's bad that they're 355 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: talking about. No, no, no, this is a. This is 356 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: a great way to find out who you are. You know, 357 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: how you don't if you know, if you're not putting 358 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: the tough situations, then you ain't gonna figure out that 359 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: you are tough. So I always thought it was great, 360 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, give me that criticism because I'm you know, 361 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: I think we live in and you know, I'm gonna 362 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: prove you wrong generation right, and I'm gonna go out 363 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: here and show you guys. Hey, I'm one of the 364 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: best to do it. That's why I got this star 365 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: on the side of my helmet. So you know, I 366 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: always started, you know, give us that criticism and we'll 367 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: use it as something positive. Do you see anybody go ahead? Well, well, 368 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: I mean just now, a lot of the media think 369 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: that they're going to bring Connor Williams back in for 370 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: this this last tretch. And I think you were talking 371 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: about shuffling of the line, that's what you're saying. I mean, 372 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: how difficult does that for the other guys on the 373 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: line when you're sort of moving pieces in and out. Yeah, 374 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: that is it is something difficult. You can't you can't 375 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: hide the fact that you know you need you need 376 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: five guys playing consistent up there and you know when 377 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: when when coaches got to make these decisions, you know 378 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: they're they're not easy decisions. And once, once, just like 379 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: Nate said, once you make a decision, you gotta stick 380 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: with it. You gotta stick with it. Because the best 381 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 1: way to learn the game is by getting reps, right, 382 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: you gotta be out there playing the game. It's one 383 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: thing to be in practice getting these reps. But if 384 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna be out there and you're gonna roll with 385 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: a guy, you know. I always thought, man, if you're 386 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: gonna roll with me, let me, let me go out 387 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: there and play, you know. And one of the ways 388 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: you learn to play the game is by making mistakes. 389 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: You know, if you get if you get a linebacker 390 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: and you you you miss a protection, you know, and 391 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: he runs in and sacks the quarterback, you kind of 392 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: look at yourself and you're like, Okay, I can't let 393 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: that happen again. You go to the film room, you 394 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: look at that and you learn from it. You learn 395 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: from it, and that's how that's how you get better 396 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: at planning in the NFL. Just like I said, one 397 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: thing to be out there at practice, but when you're 398 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: in the game and you're getting those live reps and 399 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: you're under fire. That's the best way to learn how 400 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, so what do you what do you 401 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: attribute the I guess the offensive because it's flipped. Beginning 402 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: of the year, we were worried about the defense, and 403 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: it's like, we're gonna hang forty on everybody like we're 404 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: gonna hang forty, but we're gonna give up thirty nine. 405 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: But we'll be good because we're gonna win out. Now 406 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, the defense is clicking. Now if the 407 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: offense can get it together, like nobody's gonna want a 408 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: piece of this team. But what do you see what's 409 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: holding the offense back right now? A lot of people 410 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: say it's offensive line. Nate thinks Zeke's banged up with 411 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: the knee and that's what's going on with him. A 412 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: lot of fans are talking about play call and a 413 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: lot of fans are down on deck right now. What 414 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: do you see is preventing them from putting up the 415 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: points they were in the beginning of the season. Well, 416 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: I think you definitely need a strong running game as 417 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. And even growing up with football, my 418 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: dad always preached, you know your run will open up 419 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: your pass. And you know, if you're getting three yards 420 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: two yards in the beginning of a game and that's 421 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: how you start the game, well that's okay, you know, 422 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: because as you as you go on throughout the game, 423 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: you run some outside zone inside zone power. You get 424 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: these defensive linemen up there running around and you get 425 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: them tired. So by the time you get to the 426 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, those three yard two yard games that you 427 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: were getting in the first quarter, those open up to 428 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty and maybe your break one like Tony Poler 429 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: did in the Saints game, and you you stick with it, 430 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: and then I think that, you know, it takes the 431 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: pressure off of everybody. You know, when you're running the football, well, 432 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: you're grinding other teams down, you're controlling the clock, and 433 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: then you open up for all these weapons you got 434 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: on the outside. You got CD, you gotta mary. It's like, 435 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: you know, you you look and Kellen could look at 436 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: his place sheet and be like, man, I could really 437 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: call anything right now. So I think that, you know, 438 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: you gotta stick with the running game. You gotta stick 439 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: with you know, even even if it's not working in 440 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: the beginning of the game, stick with it. Pound that 441 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: ball and good thing. Good things are gonna happen. Yeah, 442 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: that's been one of the criticism, hasn't been they've given 443 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: up on the run to earlier, not this past game. 444 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: And this is what's ugly and this is what makes 445 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: playoff football so great, is what Looney saying. I agree 446 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: with one hundred percent, because now if you continue to 447 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: run the ball, if your defense is playing great, what 448 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: you want now is to limit the times these touched 449 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: the field. So by that's why I said thirty five carries, 450 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: that's thirty two minutes on average. So now your defense 451 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: is only playing twenty eight minutes, twenty six minutes with 452 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: this defense. Okay, and that's what he's telling about. Every 453 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: time the offensive line gives you a one to two 454 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: yard game, and even in the fourth quarter, if it's 455 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: still going like that, but you're carrying the ball, everything 456 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: else opens up everything. Let me ask you this that 457 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: we have seen or so, it seems that dak seems 458 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: almost to function better when they're playing on a hurry up, 459 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: faster paced offense. How do you balance that helping him 460 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: out with keeping the running game going, keeping the defense 461 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: off the field. That sort of thing you can still 462 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: run the ball. I mean, go back to when he 463 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: was in Mississippi. They fast paced, they still ran the ball. 464 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: The difference zeals right here, Fellas. And I hate to 465 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: say this because but the only thing that's different about 466 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: all of this is Dak doesn't run anymore. Dak had 467 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: a chance to make a three yard or four yard 468 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: first down and he chose to sit and throw the 469 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 1: ball away or take the sack. And and I'm just wondering, 470 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: is Dak gonna say, hey, you know what, if it's 471 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: easy the first down to keep my team on the field, 472 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: let me go on to get this easy first down 473 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: because you can still slide. I mean, yeah, yeah, that's 474 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: a horrific incident last year. But still now you're you're 475 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: you're trying to be something. And I don't want to 476 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: be critical of another man's talent, but he's not a 477 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: pure drop back quarterback. He's not that. Yeah. Yeah, And 478 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: so I understand you're trying to maneuver into pocket, but 479 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: you gotta move around a little bit and you gotta 480 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 1: help your team. Yeah, And I think too, going off 481 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: of your point, you know, we all know the athlete 482 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: Dak is, Yes, And I think we all understand, you know, 483 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: the criticisms he's been you know, you know, nailed with 484 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: this this past week. And uh, I think it's I 485 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: think for Dak, you know, just being around him, you know, 486 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of an illusion, you know that he's 487 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: seeing right now, he's being compared to all these other guys. 488 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: When you're being compared to these other guys in the NFL, 489 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: you feel like, oh man, you know this, this, this 490 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: is what I gotta do to be one of the 491 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: one of the greats. It's like, look that you're already 492 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: one of the greats by doing what you do. And 493 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, I think one of the great things that 494 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: I loved hearing coach Garrett say is he said, you know, 495 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: no one know you know, when you're going out there, 496 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: you got to know who you are, know what you're doing, 497 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: and just let it, let it fly, let it play. 498 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: And that's one of the things. And I think as 499 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: a competitor, you know Dak, I think, you know, I myself, 500 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: you know, I was my hardest critic, and I know 501 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: I know Dak is the same way. And he's gonna 502 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: see that and he's gonna understand, Hey man, I just 503 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: gotta go out here and be a kid to get 504 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: him do what I need to do and play football. 505 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: You know, if I see something open up, hey, I'm 506 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: gonna take it. And you know, and if I get 507 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: criticized on, you know, getting the first down on a 508 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: three yard running maybe somebody's open downfield that I don't see. 509 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: You know what, we got a first down. I'm helping 510 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: my team out. You know, It's not about the criticism anymore. Yeah, 511 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: because what he what As you get closer close to 512 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's gonna be about that first down. You know. 513 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna be about can I get enough first downs 514 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: to get me into this red zone and then we 515 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: can work on the red zone, you know, because I 516 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: tell people the hardest thing to work on in practice 517 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: his red zone because that is when the fire and 518 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: it's in a small place exactly. So now you need 519 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: to get to the red zone as many times you 520 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: can to try to try to work this out because 521 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: that you know, gold line short yard is able. One 522 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: way you can do that, and that's wide open. You 523 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: can't do a short yardist play if you're doing it 524 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: at three quarters, it ain't gonna never work because you're 525 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: gonna get what you get in the game, that's what 526 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: you need to throw it to one of the fat 527 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: boys down there something, you know what I'm saying. We 528 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: were talking about that before the show. Uh every game day, 529 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: me and Chris would like bump each other because seventy 530 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: three would be eligible. What was five to ten times 531 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: a game probably, oh yeah, And I would just I 532 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: was just waiting for Jumbo Joe to catch a pass 533 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: and it just never happened. I tell you what. There 534 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: were moments though, and I'll tell you what I think. 535 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: I think when you're when you're in the moment, you know, 536 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: and you know the game plan. This was a couple 537 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: of years ago. We were playing the Lions and Callahan 538 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: was the uh ROC and we had a play for 539 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: old Jumbo Joe and you know, we get down to 540 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: the two yard line where the players install. So you 541 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: had you had to you had to play install for 542 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: this game. I mean, yeah, the players stalled for the 543 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: for the game, all the planets, the line. You know, 544 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: you hear Jumbo package Jumbo, you know, And I felt like, 545 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not I'm I'm watching myself play the game. 546 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: Now you come running and rubbing yourself like three were boys. 547 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: You know, you just kind of you kind of in 548 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: the huddle and you hear Dak. You know, I don't 549 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: even hear what he says, but it's kind of like 550 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: waiting break slow motion, and I line up, you know, 551 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: and you know, bless me that you know, it wasn't 552 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: the plane. It wasn't the play that was in the heart. 553 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: And I didn't even I didn't even listen to Day. 554 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: I was like, man, this is irrelevant. You just knew 555 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: it was your planet. This is irrelevant. Just line the 556 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: guys up. We know what's going on here. Just get 557 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: them to the line. Dak, and man, I start jogging 558 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: over to my place. You know, I'm putting, making sure 559 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: I got my stick them on my hands, you know. 560 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: So I catch the ball. Dak looks at me over 561 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: here and I'm walked in like I'm like, what's the plane? Man? 562 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: Show gee? And I'm like, man, they're kidding me. 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Five year old flag? 620 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, what is that like? Oh? It was hurd, kid, 621 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was a task. And I tell 622 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: you what, I love these kids. They were. They were great. 623 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: They had all the heart in the world. We didn't 624 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: win a game this season. Coaching next year, I am. 625 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: I am coaching next year in Frisco. Huh Okay, my 626 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: son is Is is six, so it'll be the same 627 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: as your son. Oh yeah, get him on the squad, 628 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: get him on the squad. We need to go. Uh huh. 629 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: But they they were great, so you know, I do 630 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: got that coaching experience. Yeah, if they you know, if 631 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: they need somebody, Okay, we'll talk to him about My 632 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: son's more of a big man though. Yeah, we'll get him. 633 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: Score Chris as kids gonna be he's gonna be six. Chris, 634 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: he is six already. Yeah. Yeah, he's sad and he 635 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: looks like he's forty three. Yeah. Son. Um, So we 636 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: talked about offense. Joe, what's your assessment of the defense? 637 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: What do you what do you think about these guys? 638 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I love it. I love it, you know, 639 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you're watching this defense. You know, my dad 640 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: always said, you know, when you're on defense and it 641 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: makes you want to get cuckoo for cocoa pobs is 642 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. And uh I was I was telling you 643 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: guys a little story, you know, back in twenty and 644 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: eighteen when we were playing the Saints. You know, it's 645 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: a really close game and our defense was just, you know, 646 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: ridiculous at the time, and knowing, hey, man, you know 647 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: if we if we gotta pump the ball, we can 648 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: rely on these guys to go out here and do 649 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: their job, you know, just like Nate said, or you know, 650 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: I was the we're the biggest cheerleaders out there. You know, 651 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: give me some pump pumps, white boots and whatnot, and 652 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going out there. You know, what's the 653 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: what's the high kicks that they do to us on 654 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: the side by, you know, because you know understruck, Yeah, 655 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: a little thunderstruck. Man, we know that these guys are 656 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: gonna go out here and get the job done and 657 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: do what we need to do. So I mean, you know, 658 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: I think we all we all know, man, defense wins 659 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: championships and offense sales tickets, you know, and it's it's 660 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: wonderful to see all these points being put up. But 661 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: to be able to hold that trophy, you know, I 662 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: think defense has a lot of play to going to that. Yeah, 663 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: what do you think about Micah Oh? I mean, you know, 664 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: to come in and do what he's doing as a rookie. 665 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: And I talk about this a lot. I was a 666 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: cocky rookie before nine on seven drill in my first 667 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: training I was, you know, I was like, yeah, you know, 668 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come in. I'm four year starter in college, 669 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: true freshman. What's up man? The NFL just a joke. 670 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come here and owned this league. Justin Smith 671 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: humbled me really quick, really quickly, with out humble you quit, 672 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: you know, with Patrick Willis is coming in and feeling 673 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: a hole, the varl bowman coming down, it humbles you. 674 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: So to see what he's doing as a rookie, it's 675 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: really it's really spectacular, you know, because you don't you 676 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: don't see rookies come in and just dominate the way 677 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: they do. I think, you know, they were showing a 678 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: play the other day when he was going up against Schriff. 679 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: Schriff yea up there, and I mean this is a 680 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: pro bowler, bowler, just a pro bowler, man. I mean 681 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: like this, dude, this ain't no slap. You know, this guy, 682 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: this guy is a monster, and he just you know, 683 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: hits him with a move and zack fumble. You know. 684 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: So I think it's I think it's special. It's special 685 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: for him, it's special for the fans, and it's it's 686 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: enjoyable to watch, you know, seeing seeing someone like that 687 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: have so much success. What what do you think about 688 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: his comments? The NFL is easy? Who said that? Michael? 689 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: It is fam I'm with you. Come in. I came 690 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: in and got to have him a dropped on me 691 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: a couple of time, like wow, this ain't thoughts, specially 692 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: coming from Florida and him. You know so, But I 693 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: think you know too. You see a lot of these 694 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of cats, you know, and 695 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: you break talent down in the NFL. Everybody in the 696 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: NFL has talent, and you know, I thought it, you know, 697 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: but you see these guys like a Michael Parsons, a 698 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith. These guys just goat whatever. You know. It's 699 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: it's the god gene. Yeah, it's this God and them 700 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: that just like these dudes man, I mean, just built 701 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: to play football. You I mean, it's like a it's 702 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: like a second ager. They just walk out there and 703 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: they're good. So it's it's it's fun to see. It's 704 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: fun to watch, you know. I mean, you get a 705 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: player like that on your team. That's been official for you. 706 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: We'll take it, ready to break. Did you ever played defensive? All? 707 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: I did? H Huh? I did I do? I did? 708 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: I played. I played some defense in high school. And 709 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: uh and then literally, you know I talk about I 710 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: had I had a great Literally you know, my dad 711 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: was my coach, and you know he would line me 712 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: right up over the center and be like you take 713 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: him and you put him right in the quarterbacks lap 714 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: and I just look at him, yes, sir, Yeah, and uh, 715 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: you know it was great. But I always loved the 716 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: offensive line play, you know, I just you know, you're 717 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: not in the spotlight. You're with a group of guys. 718 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to, 719 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, be with a group of guys and you know, 720 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: go out there and smash them guys, because you know, 721 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: when when when when when teams do rush two hundred 722 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: yards and whatnot? Running backs? You know, quarterbacks get all 723 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: the praises for how many yards they passed for, how 724 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: many yards they rushed for. But deep down inside, we 725 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: know you know you didn't head coach, How was your game? Yeah? 726 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: You played some defense, too, didn't you? Yeah? Yeah, all 727 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: the way to college. Yeah, you actually like defense better 728 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: than Yeah, I do, and that's why I root for him. 729 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: A little bit harder to do the offense, you know, 730 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: even though it's harder to play offensive line. You know, 731 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: let me get change of you. Okay, all right, coacher man, 732 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah what a mess? Huns a mess man. Definitely pay 733 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,479 Speaker 1: that dude all that money to do all that work. 734 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: You can reconstruct your whole program and get one guy 735 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: three thirteen games and that's a shame, man, I mean. 736 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: But anyway back, the more important things we win it. Yeah, seriously, 737 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: I was I was telling my wife about this, sorry, 738 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: because you know, I was telling my wife about this. 739 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: It's it's tough for coaches to come from college because 740 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: you're you're you're dealing with grown men and there. Yeah, 741 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: you just can't do whatever you want and say whatever 742 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: you want to saving ran into the same thing, right, Yeah, 743 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's tough. Man, he's a grown 744 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: man you're dealing with. You know, they're gonna they're gonna 745 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: say something back to you, you know. And I've had 746 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: my you know, fair share of runnings with with coaches 747 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: and what oh yeah, nice old jumbuzz John telling you, 748 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, in the pros or in the pros really pros, 749 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, and college they can control you a little better. Yea, 750 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: in pros not not these kids, not this new generation, 751 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: but at our generation, a little older coach tell you 752 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: what he wants you to know it and I was 753 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: gonna be it right. And you know, I think you 754 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: get some confidence in you. Uh you kind of you 755 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: start you start smelling yourself a little too much. You know, 756 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: you have this confidence to speak back to the coach. 757 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: And you know, I definitely, I definitely, and I'm not 758 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm not happy about it. I'm not proud of it. 759 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: But you know, I think there's some things that you 760 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: just you know, as as a man, you know, we 761 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: all we all respect each other, and you know, you 762 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta have you gotta show that respect to 763 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: get it. And you know I was raised to, you know, 764 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: give respect no matter what. And I think you get 765 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: there to a certain extent. But if you keep poking 766 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: the bear, Yeah, you put that dog in the corner, right, 767 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 1: come out, Barden. Nobody puts Looney in the corner. Nobody 768 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: puts Baby in the corner. Well see Kurt's Kurt's happy 769 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: that that Zeke's banged up because he's no, no, no, 770 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: don't throw me under that bus. It's not true. They're 771 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: spreading lies. What's what's the status of Pollard? Has he 772 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: been practicing this week? He was out there today. They 773 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: said he stretched and he did some work with Britt 774 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: on the side, and then he joined the team for 775 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: some things. But you know, he wasn't heavy into the 776 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: drills or whatever. So they're hopeful. They're hopeful, and Nate, 777 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: you think they can. You think they can run the ball, 778 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: no matter if it's Clement and Hearty out there, right. 779 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: I really believe that. I believe that these guys are 780 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: good enough to run the ball. I think that thirty 781 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 1: five carries one hundred twenty two yards no matter who's carried. 782 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: That's not that's not that's not to be laughed at. 783 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: If if our quarterback just can center himself and get 784 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: himself calmed down, because that's how I think Dak throws 785 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: thirty nine times a game. We run that thing twenty 786 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: five thirty times he throws a thirty and Dak is dad. 787 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: We cannot be beat. Go back and check the records. 788 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: We cannot be beat. Well, did you guys feel a 789 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: lineman that if you did your job, anybody could run 790 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: behind you. Oh yeah I knew, Yeah definitely, yeah, and 791 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: yeah definitely. But they don't hurt that, they don't hurt 792 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: to have him in. But yeah, i'll tell you what. 793 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: You know it when when a running back. You know, 794 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: Zeke was always in our our run meetings, you know, 795 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: on Wednesday Thursday morning. He would come to our run 796 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: meetings and he would tell us, you know, the angles 797 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be running, that, how he's gonna set 798 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: guys up so we can get our blocks, and how 799 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: he's gonna run off of that. And I think when 800 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: you got somebody back there, you know, you already got 801 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: a good offensive line working for you, but when you 802 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: got somebody back there doing that for you, it makes 803 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: things easier. It's like, I see it, We'll see in 804 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: the end zone. Dude. Yeah, that's interesting that he would 805 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 1: come in and tell you how he's gonna run. Yeah, yeah, 806 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was important because 807 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: then you know what what angles you need to take. 808 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 1: You know, It's like, how do I need to reach 809 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: this line, you know, the defensive linement at what angle 810 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: do I need to go get the linebacker. When I'm pulling, 811 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: what what number am I aiming for? You know, is 812 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: he gonna take this thing inside or outside? So it's 813 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: it's it's it's big down to the details of you know, 814 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: running the football. It's just hard for people to understand 815 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: because when they look at running backs and this is 816 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: the theory, this is you know, you can disagree or agree, 817 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 1: brother Luna. In high school, when you have a great 818 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: running back, he can go anywhere on the field and 819 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: make a touchdown. In college he has to stay more 820 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: play side, but he still has that ability to bend 821 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: it back. In pros, you get a hold, we get 822 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: a hold, and when you do, you when you think 823 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: you can just go right here to the right tock 824 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: and make it, just dart back to the to the left, 825 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: to the left guard now holding number sixty one, because 826 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,240 Speaker 1: you gotta stay. You gotta give to play a chance. 827 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: Because these athletes are so great on defense, they can 828 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: react so fast. So you can be going, I can 829 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: be going up to the second leve. I could be 830 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: me and lude could be working. I could be the 831 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: right guard and we're going. I'm going up to the 832 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: second level as you. But you're reading through me so 833 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: quick to wh he makes that jerky move all of 834 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,439 Speaker 1: a sudden, I got you, you know what, I'm saden, 835 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: you flaying and I'm getting the flag. You have to 836 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: stay more with the play when you get into the 837 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: pros due to the defense is so much more athletic 838 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: than it right college. It definitely does. It puts the 839 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,919 Speaker 1: offensive linement and are you know a compromising the physician. Yeah, 840 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: if you know the running back is like, oh well, 841 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna cut it back right now, right now. 842 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: You know what I think? Uh, you know, I've been 843 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: watching a lot of ball this year and you look 844 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: at kind of like a Nagi Harris. You know you 845 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: gotta learn, Hey, you gotta kind of let that play 846 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: develop a little bit. Oh yes, right, give them big 847 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: guys some time to work up there are set those 848 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: blocks up. You know. Do your jobs changed much drastically, 849 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: if at all? If depending on who who the running 850 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: back is? Uh? For for me, we we got guys 851 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: that were more similar to to to E. Now the 852 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: game has changed. Where you you thea in the OFFENSI 853 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: according and I was like, shouldn't know what running back 854 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: is in there? And help your offensive line have the 855 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: best play for this running back pay Yeah, the play call. Yeah, Yeah, 856 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: that's that's why it seems to me now as you 857 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: actually had to do it with this new generation. Yeah, 858 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: Kerr and I think you know, we we would, we 859 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: would know the difference between you know, each each running 860 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: back kind of has their little play designs. Yeah, and 861 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: you know both both you know, Zeke and Tony can 862 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: they can do it all. But you know, when when 863 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: one guy comes in the game, it's like, okay, you 864 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: know we got we got so many plays that they're 865 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: gonna be running in the game, and we know, you know, 866 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: we see them coming in. You know, it's like, all right, 867 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: we're running this play and you kind of adjust your 868 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: your blocking style to you know, how they're how they're 869 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: how you know, coaches calling the game. Yeah, that's interesting. 870 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: So like Barry Saunders, they whether they wanted to be 871 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: or not, they were gonna be a big draw team. 872 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: And draw is you kind of set and let the 873 00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: defense move first, because you know, Barry, Barry gonna it 874 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: there and he looking all of a sudden, he gone, 875 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: He's going where he wants, He going where he wants. 876 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,359 Speaker 1: So they were more of a big draw team. Where 877 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,479 Speaker 1: it's with him. We was coming forward, we was gonna 878 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: dictate what was gonna be happening, and uh, you know, 879 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: you see that's what I'm sub shot that nobody don't 880 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: do that for Barkley. If I'm if I'm I'm like, 881 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm a big draw team. I'm like, we gonna let 882 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: you declare because I got to do back there that 883 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: can move right, you know, And I think you know 884 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: what's important too, understanding football and you know, Nate, you guys, 885 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: you know, every play is designed to score a touchdown. Yes, 886 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 1: it is every every time you you know, every time 887 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: you get a play call, you know, it's like, man, 888 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: we could take this one to the crib. You know, 889 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, we're happy with a three four yard 890 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: game because we understand that this is the NFL. It's hard, 891 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: but we're trying to score every time. This every time 892 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: we hear these play calls run past, you know, special 893 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: teams play calls. We're trying to score. We're trying to 894 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: score touchdowns, and it usually comes down to basically one 895 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: guy on deep right, like everybody, everybody's assigned to a dude. 896 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: And if you can make that one guy missed, then 897 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: that's where your your touchdown comes in, right that. That's 898 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: why I'm telling everybody, you know, if we just can 899 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: get people didn't know how valuable you was at the 900 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 1: lunar position, the jumbo that we forgot how valuable Connor 901 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,959 Speaker 1: McGovern was when he was running that position. We gotta 902 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: get a tight end. We gotta get a tight end. 903 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 1: And so when when when, when, when Parler does come back, 904 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: we can give him some of that outside. We gotta 905 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: be able because they're setting the edge on us. And 906 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: this is all right. Zeke ain't got no problem with 907 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: hitting up in the Zeke the more to marry you. 908 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: But with Tony, it ain't gonna be that way, you know, 909 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: get him into into his flavor, you know, so running yeah, 910 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: get him running all right? Fellas well. We're out of time. Kurt, 911 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: good seeing you, man, Nate shaking bait, Shako, thanks for 912 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: joining the show. We will see you tomorrow. We take 913 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: phone calls tomorrow. We got we gotta, we got what's 914 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: the last supposed to know? Somebody else we bringing We 915 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: bring a guest on every Friday now, someone around every corner, 916 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: around every corner, so be prepared. Don't nothing's off the 917 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: table tomorrow. It's freaky fun Phone Friday here with the boys, 918 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: So Nate, thanks for bringing it today as usual. Chris, 919 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: thanks for keeping us on the air, will you, young lady, 920 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for keeping the live streams up. Her name's Brandy. 921 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: Brandy can't come because it's not her turn. She her 922 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:34,280 Speaker 1: tush last Friday. Brand coming. All right, We'll be back tomorrow. 923 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: The people show hanging with the more Brandy, Where are you? 924 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 925 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.