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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody's John Middlecoff three and Out podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Appreciate your your ear lobes, your air pods,

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Speaker 1: your speakers, however you listen and uh and yeah excited.

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Speaker 1: Got a little, good little show today, good little show.

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Speaker 1: Recording this on January one, Thursday mid day. Nothing. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's no Thursday night football anymore. Uh. Luckily we got

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Speaker 1: two big games. We will dive into the pressure rankings

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Speaker 1: off the top coming into the a f C and

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Speaker 1: NFC championship game, which honestly I don't I haven't even

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Speaker 1: even know. Uh. Then we will get into uh. Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers retired. The Colts now have an interesting situation. The

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that much about, uh, named Nick SIRIANNI

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Speaker 1: will dive into some thoughts there. The Pack twelve fired.

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Speaker 1: done here in a couple of months. Larry Scott, who

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Speaker 1: ruined the conference, he said something that I've known about

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Speaker 1: but basically, they didn't make football priority, and we will

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Speaker 1: dive into that. And then, of course Middlecoff mail bag

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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff is the Instagram handle three and out

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Speaker 1: podcast Go subscribe, greatly appreciate it. So I wanted to

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Speaker 1: start with this the two biggest games of the season.

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Speaker 1: We got three games left, which sucks, but at least

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Speaker 1: they're three really good games. Right. We know for a

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Speaker 1: fact these two games are awesome on paper. Brady versus Rogers,

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Speaker 1: the Bills versus the Chiefs with the two young star quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: one of the best young star quarterbacks we've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Regardless who wins this weekend, we have a fantastic super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think you know, you probably you know the league

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Speaker 1: wouldn't mind Mahomes winning, and then they can't lose with

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Speaker 1: Rogers r. Brady. But the way I looked at this

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Speaker 1: and I just ranked one through four the team slashed

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Speaker 1: the quarterback who has the most pressure going into this weekend,

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Speaker 1: and number one. I don't even think it's relatively close.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the Green Bay Packers, but specifically Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: He is the perfect quarterback. He already was one of

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Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks in the history of the league. He'd

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Speaker 1: and they get a big home field advantage in Lambeau.

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Speaker 1: And as we talked about earlier this week as well,

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Speaker 1: m v P of the league. He's been the best

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Speaker 1: So he's a transcendent talent, a transcendent player on a

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Speaker 1: second ring. His career was too good to only be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: shitty part about Marino, Like he was a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning deserved to have that second ring. He the

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Speaker 1: But I think Aaron Rodgers, who's thirty seven years old

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Speaker 1: of pressure is on Aaron Rodgers now, and I feel good.

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Speaker 1: And the Bills right now are easily i'd say, beside

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Speaker 1: we're always told is the greatest attribute these rookie quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Bucks have much pressure on them

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Speaker 1: You already resurrected the Bucks. You just don't have that

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Speaker 1: And we've talked at nauseum over and over and over

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Speaker 1: Rivers thought highly of him, but the moment Doug was fired,

428
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Speaker 1: I don't even know. I I didn't know who the

429
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Speaker 1: Eagles were gonna hire, to be honest with you, I

430
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: thought Josh McDaniels because it was leaked. But then I

431
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: know a lot of people within the Eagles organization, like

432
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Lury is not a big Patriot guy. I think

433
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Speaker 1: his friends with Robert Craft or whatever, but they once

434
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: beat him in the Super Bowl. He just he doesn't

435
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: like the Patriots. So but Josh pretty good candidate, I

436
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: guess in theory. But with Josh have accepted the job,

437
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: and you know, listen to Howie, I don't know, so,

438
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni. The Eagles hang their hat on being innovate, innovative,

439
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: being ahead of the curve. I know this when I

440
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: worked for the Eagles. This was you know, when I

441
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: first got hired in two thousand and ten, the staff

442
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: was littered with people under thirty years old. And these

443
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: guys now are have ajor rolls all over their league,

444
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: you know, in the in their thirties, so they, you know,

445
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: have this forward thinking ability of getting young people. It's

446
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: something they take a lot of pride in Now. It's

447
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: one thing to have a scout or an assistant coach

448
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: do that. It's another to name your head coach. But

449
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: once upon a time when they named Andy Reid the

450
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: head coach of the Eagles back and what he was

451
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: kind of a no name under the radar guy. Now

452
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: he was coming from a franchise called the Green Bay Packers.

453
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,239
Speaker 1: Who was kicking Everyone's asked with Brett Farve, But I

454
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: understand getting a guy that's young that you think has

455
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: a big upside. He's coached in the league for a while,

456
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: even though despite being thirty nine, he's been in the

457
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: league since oh nine, been with the Chiefs, been with

458
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and then been with the Colts. Here's the issue.

459
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 1: It is a town that is not easy to deal with.

460
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: The Eagles mean everything, the media is coming after you. Uh.

461
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: It is just an intense play. To be a head

462
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: football coach. You are an immediately a celebrity that's under

463
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: the microscope. It has a lot of parallels to the

464
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: SEC It has like how he told me at the combine.

465
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: A guy he's become good friends with is Brian Cashman

466
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: because he's like, you know, you can kind of relate

467
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: to the pressures. Obviously, the Yankees are bigger than the Eagles,

468
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: but you're just under the firing line. Everything you do

469
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: is under the microscope. It is an intense fucking job.

470
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: I was a nobody in the organization is just scout

471
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Speaker 1: and I felt it every day coming in there, just

472
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: because of the of the passion and the importance to

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Speaker 1: the city. And the city is a major city in America,

474
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people live there, and Philly is just

475
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: a big sports area and just pa in general, and

476
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: the Eagles mean a lot. And this guy is getting

477
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: his first opportunity. Like it's a bold move, but one

478
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: thing that haven't been around how he and definitely just

479
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: the organizational culture, like they promote being bold, they will

480
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: take big swings. Now I'm not saying that seraily this

481
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: was a big swing. Who else was hiring him? Maybe nobody.

482
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the guy. Text a couple

483
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: of people, one that had worked with the Chargers, another

484
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: guy that had played with the Chargers. They both love

485
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: the guy. They both were really impressed. Now, I'm not

486
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: saying that's the end all be all these Uh that

487
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: doesn't I've said glowing reviews about people that go the

488
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: wrong way. We don't know, and you never know until

489
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: a guy gets in this position. But I understand the

490
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: Eagles mindset of they had to go offense. They have

491
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: a hundred plus million dollar problem in Carson Wentz. Now

492
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: where this job is very difficult for a first time

493
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: head coach. The Eagles have a Carson Wentz problem. They

494
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: have a Carson Wentz problem with his play, which is terrible.

495
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: He's not a good quarterback. You could argue at different

496
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: stretches of two thousand twenty he was the worst starting

497
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. I'm not including backups Nick Mullins

498
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: and dudes that were starting for the Cowboys and some

499
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: of the random guys are at the league. I'm talking

500
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Speaker 1: about the thirty two starting quarterback that begin the year

501
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: as your starting quarterback going into the season. Wentz, I

502
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: don't know where he ranks in PFF for some of

503
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: the stats, the eye test, he easily could have been last.

504
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,719
Speaker 1: So the guy is playing bad, then you have a

505
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: diva problem. There is clearly some stuff there with his teammates,

506
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: with work ethic, with his some entitlement. It's it's not

507
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: even disputable now and I think a young coach can

508
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: fix ability, right this guy trying to look was he

509
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback in college? This guy played college football? He

510
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if he did. He was a defensive

511
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what position he played in college, but

512
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: he went to Southwest Central, So who even cares? But

513
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: this guy has coached quarterbacks now since oh nine, quarterbacks

514
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, quarterbacks with the Chargers, and quarterbacks offensive

515
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: coordinator with the Colts. So this guy has been around quarterbacks,

516
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: understand quarterbacks, and he's been around spent a lot of

517
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: time around rivers. High level guy. So I give him

518
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt that he that he's gonna

519
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: have the ability to take a legit swing on fixing

520
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: the player. But the personality is not easy because even

521
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: though you're now the head coach, Carson Wentz has infinitely

522
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: more money than you, and his job status is. You

523
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: can make it an open competition or whatever. He's already

524
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: leaked he wanted out, so he won't be afraid to

525
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: do that again. You are going to have to approach

526
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: this at like the ultimate balance because you have this

527
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: guy who knows he's talented, but he's not playing well.

528
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: But he blames others where you want to broach it,

529
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: where you're gonna have to be a hard ass. You're

530
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to have some purcels Bill Parcels where you're

531
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: just on this guy. But he's an offensive player, He's

532
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: not a defensive lineman. And the reality is with offensive

533
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: players you can't just dog cust Ask John Gruden, He's

534
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: been doing it for twenty years. His team's always crumbled

535
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: down the stretch. So yeah, you gotta be there's a

536
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: kid glove element to it, which ultimately my point here,

537
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: it's a very challenging thing to do. Talk with these

538
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: guys that make thirty million dollars that are playing bad

539
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: and you have to earn his trust, but you also

540
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: have to coach him hard. But here's what I will

541
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: say about Nick Sirianni and just the ultimate big picture

542
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: of the Eagles job. And I think a lot of

543
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: people went, well, Eagles is a terrible job, is it?

544
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: Because you do have a big time talent in Carson

545
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: Wentz and as a coach. If I take over the

546
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: Houston Texans and listen to here all for all the

547
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: bullshit about the Deshaun Watson uh status and trade they

548
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: do not have a head coach. So until they get

549
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: a head coach, Like for as much smoke is out there,

550
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: and there's a lot and usually where there's a lot

551
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: of smoke, there's some fire, clearly there's something there. But

552
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: let's just see who the head coaches and then we

553
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: can dive into is this gonna work or not? But

554
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: until I know they have a head coach, I don't

555
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: know the situation. But if I if John Middlcoff was

556
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: assistant coach for the Green Bay Packers and the Houston

557
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: Texans hired me to be their coach, and let's say

558
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: I was able to convince de Shan listen, I will

559
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna win here. You're gonna like me, You're gonna

560
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: be good, You're gonna be a Houston legend. Stay and

561
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: he listened. I'm not really getting that much credit for

562
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: the Shohn Watson he won national championship. He was making

563
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls before I ever showed up where Carson wentz

564
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: as a coach, you get a lot of credit for

565
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: saving a guy's career. Can you resurrected? Can you get

566
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, just the wheels back on the car, because

567
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: right now the car is four flat tires and you're

568
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: on the side of the road and you got a

569
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: long way to go to your destination. So the Eagles,

570
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: you can talk about all this Jalen Hurts crap. You

571
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: want me personally, I've trading Jalen Hurts this offseason because

572
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't think the Jalen Hurts and Carson Wentz can

573
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: exist in the same quarterback room. That's not possible. And

574
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: my number one goal if I'm Sarianni is I want

575
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: to fix Carson Wentz. And that's just the ego of

576
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: a coach, and it should be. But if you're actually

577
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: you're able to pull that off, and you're able to

578
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: come through on you know, your ability to fix this player,

579
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a lot of credit for it. Think

580
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: how fast Nick Serrianni stock would go up if in

581
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: a couple of years Carson Wentz is playing at a

582
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level again, which what we saw this year

583
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: is a long way to go. And there's gonna be

584
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: pressure on him and Howie to be on the same page.

585
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: There's gonna be pressure on this first time head coach

586
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: to hire a good staff, There's gonna be pressure on

587
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: him to get experience around him on his staff. There

588
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: there's gonna be This is not an easy position, but

589
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: it isn't high upside position. And I thought the job

590
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: was getting talked about much more poorly than it actually is.

591
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: So I I I understand where Eagles fans go, what

592
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: the hell? But like, who you know we're gonna hire

593
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, And well, Josh McDaniels even wanted the job, right,

594
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean, because Jeffrey's not firing Howie. That's not happening.

595
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: And I just I don't know if Joshua I don't

596
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: know about their relationship, and actually everyone acts like here,

597
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: here's what I do know, having just known Howie for

598
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: a long time. He has a lot of good relationship

599
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: with a lot of people in the leak, and he like,

600
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: I don't think him and Doug's relationship is bad, Like

601
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson got fired because of Carson Wentz, not because

602
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: of Howie Roseman. And I know everyone is just reading

603
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: some of these things like how is the problem? How

604
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: he is the problem. The problem with the Eagles was

605
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and Carson Wentz. And I've gone on to

606
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: say I'm I'm even defending Doug Peterson part of that

607
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: is Carson Wentz fault like that's on Carson Wentz. So

608
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: ultimately the coach is gonna get blamed, like firing Howie.

609
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: Let's say they had fired Howie kept Carson and Doug.

610
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: What would that have changed? The quarterback literally leaked to

611
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: the number one reporter in America when it comes to

612
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: the NFL. I if Doug stays, I gotta go. Our

613
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: relationship is done. Like that happened? What's that happen? What

614
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: was Jeffrey Lewis supposed to do? It's not fixable. Now

615
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: you could argue had they pampered him, It sure sounds

616
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: like that. They gave him a ton of money. How

617
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: he was obviously behind part of that, but I understood

618
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: when they gave him a lot of money. The problem

619
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: is Carson just sucked him and the coaching c ied

620
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: I and then he hated the coach. Clearly coach didn't

621
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: like him that much. Like they had a coach quarterback problem.

622
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: And now they still might have a quarterback problem. But

623
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: hopefully this young coach can fix the quarterback. Only time

624
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: will tell. But if he does fix the quarterback, Nick

625
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: Siriani will go from a guy none of us knew

626
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: to a pretty famous coach quick. You know, it hasn't

627
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: been easy these last couple of years and really the

628
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: last I don't know, it feels like decade being a

629
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: West Coast college football fan. I'm a Pack twelve guy

630
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: at heart. Grew up in California, grew up going to

631
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: CAL games. Cousin played at u c l A. Love

632
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Pete Harold worked at Fresno State. Was jealous of all

633
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: the you know, the guy's Oregon and you know some

634
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: of the Utah would be able to recruit that Washington

635
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: that we couldn't. I've just been around the Pack twelve

636
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: of my entire life. Uh couldn't get into any of

637
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: those schools that were in my state in cal U

638
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: c l A. Stanford, USC denied by three out of

639
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: the four of them. Stanford, of course U c l A.

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Speaker 1: Cal said no, thanks, didn't even apply to USC. Schools

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Speaker 1: like Arizona and Oregon would have gladly taken me. The

642
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: problem was I wasn't gonna pay out of state tuition.

643
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Speaker 1: But I consider myself a Pac twelve fan. And the

644
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: PAC twelve has had Larry Scott as the commissioner, the

645
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Speaker 1: highest paid commissioner of all the Powder five programs over

646
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Speaker 1: this period of time, and they have become a disaster.

647
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: Football and basketball, but mainly football, but basketball definitely helps

648
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Speaker 1: carry a conference. You've heard of the uh the term

649
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: a rising tide lifts all boats. It is true. Like CBS,

650
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: for example, do you know their number one product in

651
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: terms of sports by a mile is of course the NFL.

652
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: And they pay the most for the NFL, right than

653
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: they do when it comes to the n C Double

654
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Speaker 1: A Tournament, the PGA Tour, whatever. But they know having

655
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: the NFL making a lot of money off the NFL

656
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: makes it easier for them to work with golf, work

657
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: with tennis, work with college basketball, and do a good

658
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: job with those products, right, and invest a lot of

659
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: money because of the money they make with football. I

660
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: see it right now. You are listening to me because

661
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: in some way, probably of Colin Coward. If it wasn't

662
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: for Colin Coward, you would never have heard of me.

663
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: He literally lifted me to you. He is the cash cow,

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Speaker 1: and in college athletics, the cash cow is the sport

665
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Speaker 1: of football. And Larry Scott, who was you know unofficial

666
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: we fired this week, but he'll like keep his job

667
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: through the summer. He admitted something that I've known of

668
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: for a long time that when we started the Pack

669
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Speaker 1: twelve network, our goal was to push a lot of

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Speaker 1: the Olympic sports. And as someone on the West Coast

671
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: who has a lot of admiration for the Big Ten

672
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: in the SEC and Clemson, I always thought to myself, like,

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00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: why are you spending so much effort on swimming and

674
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: water polo and women's basketball. Go all in on the

675
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: sport of football and all those sports will benefit and

676
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: your men's golf team, your men's soccer team, your women's

677
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: basketball team, your women's soccer team will indirectly benefit greatly

678
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Speaker 1: from the money you are making by placing football on

679
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: a pedestal. But Larry Scott is an Ivy League educated

680
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: tennis player who came into the West Coast and the

681
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: Pac twelve network with this mindset, and it might not

682
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: be all his fault. Maybe the school presidents thought this

683
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: as well, And if they did, they are morons. They

684
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: are absolute imbeciles, and they don't understand the way this

685
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: business works. Because you know what the SEC and the

686
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: Big Ten did. They put every single chip they had

687
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of the table on the sport of football,

688
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: and they said, if this works out with their networks

689
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: and the SEC network and the Big Ten network and everything,

690
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: if we have teams consistently going to the Final four

691
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: and pushing these teams and generating more money, our entire

692
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: conference will be better. Are all of our Olympic sports

693
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: will benefit. But without the sport of football succeeding, it's

694
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Speaker 1: irrelevant what happens to our Olympic sports. And I think

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Speaker 1: Larry Scott now listen, there is a rabid fan base

696
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Speaker 1: on the West Coast that can't ever compare. Like just

697
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: a simple reality. We're more pro sports driven out here,

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00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: so I don't ever expect the Pack twelve to be

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00:38:54,760 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: the SEC. The SEC's teams are followed like the Niners

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00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: or the Seattle Seahawks, or the Lakers, or are pro

701
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: sports teams out here. No one will ever care as

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00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: much about U c l A Football as they do

703
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: the Dodgers, just like no baseball team will ever sniff

704
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: the importance of L s U or Florida football. So

705
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: there are uphill battles that you have to face out here.

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00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: That's a reality. We know that, but I've seen it

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Speaker 1: when Pete Carroll went all in, when Jim Harbaugh went

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00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: all in, when Chip Kelly went all in. It can

709
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Speaker 1: change the conference. When football is rolling, everyone benefits. As

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00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: Colin Coward gets more people to subscribe to his podcast,

711
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: more people are gonna listen to me. I am nothing

712
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: without him. Do you think the CBS pays all this

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00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: money for the PGA Tour if they're not making a

714
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: ton of money off the NFL and made a ton

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00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: of money the last decade off SEC football, they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have it. It wouldn't make any sense. And I think

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00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: sometimes like the and you know, the NBA subsidized the

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Speaker 1: w n B a its entire existence. The w NBA

719
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: does not make any money, but because the NBA, well

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Speaker 1: I don't know right now, but you know, forever when

721
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: David Stern was running, was making huge cash and it

722
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: was smart, and it is good for the sport to

723
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Speaker 1: have a women's product, and they finance it. No different

724
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: college athletics, right, women's soccer team, lacrosse team, men's golf team.

725
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: These all these programs lose money, don't make any money,

726
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: generate no revenue. Yet everything they have is an expense, right,

727
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: travel expense, coaching expense, food expense, you name it. But

728
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Speaker 1: it doesn't You think at Alabama they care how much

729
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: money their golf team spends, of course, not Nick Saban's

730
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 1: racking in the cash. How much money at Ogeron made

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Speaker 1: l s U last year. How much money Urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: and Ryan Day have made that program. How much money

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Speaker 1: Michigan State made when they were winning, you know, three

734
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Speaker 1: or four years. I'm talking about football, obviously in basketball

735
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Speaker 1: making a lot too. There are two revenue generating teams.

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Speaker 1: Football clearly. Even John Calipari said it a couple of

737
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: years ago. He's like, when football is good, I benefit.

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Speaker 1: This is at Kentucky. John Calipari said that it's important

739
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: for stoops in the Kentucky football team to win, and

740
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: how awesome it was for them to win eleven games

741
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, how good it was for

742
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: the program. And when I saw Larry Scott again saying

743
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: something that I already knew. But I don't think a

744
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: lot of people understand it because most of you don't

745
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: have the Patrol Network, let alone watch it. If you

746
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: have it, they push all these sports that no one

747
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: wants to watch. And listen, my unborn children if they

748
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: are gonna play college athletics, more than likely will play

749
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: one of water polo golf for those sports, they ain't

750
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: gonna play right tackle at s C. My children will

751
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: not play Division one football. I feel pretty confident about

752
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: saying that, so I'm not trying to act like some

753
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: football ladists, just a reality. Any one with a brain

754
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: knows should have said, what the fuck are we doing?

755
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: Can we play football as a priority? And I think

756
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: the PAC twelves fall from grace and basically uh road

757
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: to a relevancy, and you could argue they are close

758
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: to irrelevancy right now. Is because of this mindset where

759
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: the SEC's rise to prominence now Sabans played a big

760
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: role in that, but their rise to providence prominence has

761
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: been their aggressive nature when it comes to the sport

762
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: of football. Because when football succeeds, what do I look

763
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: around and see? God, Florida's basketball team is so good.

764
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: South Carolina's basketball teams in the final four. Tennessee's basketball

765
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: team is good. Obviously they got Kentucky. You know that

766
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: the standards just raised. You have more money. Georgia paced

767
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: Tom Crean four or five million dollars a year because

768
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: of football and the patch walls should be ashamed with themselves.

769
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: They need a complete, a complete, just reset, blow it

770
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: up and get some football people involved, get some business

771
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: people involved, because you know what, business people understand the money.

772
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: And I feel these academic elites out here on the

773
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Speaker 1: West Coast didn't understand where the money came from. They

774
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: understood money was there, but they just thought because if

775
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: you're some academic elite that doesn't know football, you're like

776
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: water poll football. It's all the same because that's what

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00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: they prioritized. You say, John, How's that possible? How could

778
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: the school president of said university think that? Well, they

779
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: clearly were allowing this to go on, So I I'd argue,

780
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: how could they not have thought it? But at least

781
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: the pack twelve. Now we'll see who they hire has

782
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: a fighting and a puncher's chance just to get back

783
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: to some relevancy. Now there are gonna be some uphill battles.

784
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: Like I said that, they will not have advantages built

785
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: in like some of the other conferences. But I've seen

786
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: it in my life. They shouldn't be this terrible. They

787
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't be this bad. The conference should be better. But

788
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: it starts with prioritizing the sport of football. Okay, let's

789
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: dive in a middle Coff mail bag at John Middlecoff

790
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: is the Instagram handle slide in the d m s

791
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: and I will answer your question. With sirianni as the

792
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: new head coach in Philly, everyone keeps bringing up that

793
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: he was in the play caller. Well, Frank wasn't a

794
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: play caller in Philly either before he became the cold

795
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: Take coach. At one point, Andy Reid had never called plays.

796
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: Not to say that's not who he'll be, but highly unlikely.

797
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: How hard is it to call plays in a game?

798
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: If a potential head coach hires checks all the boxes,

799
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: why why is never called plays before? That important? Obviously,

800
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: play calling is a huge part of winning games. But

801
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: if you have a smart grinder who can lead, shouldn't

802
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: you taste take the risk. It's a hell of a question,

803
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: I think. To really answer this question, I don't know

804
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: if I can because I've never called plays and I've

805
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: never coached football. Now, I've spent a lot of time

806
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 1: around coaches, and I still text with a lot guys

807
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: that called plays. Now, uh, they would from my vantage

808
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: point would be I I do think there is some

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00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: instincts and innate ability to call plays on game day now,

810
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: getting ready for a game, preparing a game plan. Any

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator like Sara Ani or like Frank, even when

812
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: they're not the play caller, is a huge part of

813
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: the game plan and is a huge part of the

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00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: conversations while the game is going on. So if they've

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00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: seen success as Sarianni has with Frank and Philip Rivers

816
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: and a a couple different spots, and as Frank did with

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00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, and you're a quarterback at heart, like I,

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Speaker 1: I do think there are some things that you could go,

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00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: this guy's got a good chance. But there are guys

820
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: that you go, this guy would be a good play caller,

821
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: and then he's not. So I to me, it's one

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00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: of those things you never truly know until he gets

823
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: to call the place. I think in some ways it's

824
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: kind of like a player like you go, oh, this

825
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: can look good in practice, Oh this look good in

826
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Speaker 1: the preseason games. Would happens when it's nutcutting time against

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Speaker 1: a good defensive coordinator, a guy that has twenty years

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00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: experience on you as a as a coordinator, what happens

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Speaker 1: when you're going up against Fangio or Belichick like it's tough,

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Speaker 1: and I just think you naturally have to learn on

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00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: the job. But I think you got a pretty good

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00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: idea relatively quick now, depending on your talent, depending on

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00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: your coaching ability. As I said earlier, I think the

834
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: most important thing with him is not calling place right

835
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: off the bat. It's getting Carson confident again, and with

836
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Speaker 1: that comes play calling. But to me, it's in the

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00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: off season in training camp. They gotta fix Carson and

838
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: with that then I think he can learn to be

839
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: a play caller. But I don't know if you ever know.

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00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: That's from my vantage point. I would guess there are

841
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: some coaches listening that would probably answer it differently. Um,

842
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: that's a good question to ask when I get a

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00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: coach on one time, maybe in the off season, because

844
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: that's that's a hell of a question. I've got a

845
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: thought Watson for WinCE could have happened. Uh, you know,

846
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: assuming the financials, you can just trade them straight up. Yeah,

847
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Speaker 1: I don't see why. I don't see why Houston would

848
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: do that. If I was Houston, I would be more

849
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: inclined to trade him to the Jets, trade him to

850
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and start over than trade him for Carson

851
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: Wentz who's not playing well, because they're not equals right now.

852
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: One guy is really good and one guy's a high

853
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: character guy, never caused an issue. The other guy is

854
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: playing badly and leaking stuff to the media. So to me,

855
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: they're not They're not on the same wavelength. And you

856
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: can say, well, Deshawn's leaks some trade. Yeah, I've just

857
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: been unhappy with the ship show that's going on. Like,

858
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: I think we all agree, like, ye, it's getting a

859
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: little weird to Houston. Carson's like, wait, Carson doesn't like

860
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: Douck Peterson. What doesn't everyone like Douck Peterson. Didn't he

861
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl? So I would say that the

862
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: Eagles would do that yesterday? How he would drive Carson

863
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: to Houston. I don't see why the Houston Texans would

864
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: do that. Good question though, that's I like ship like

865
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: that question for the pod. How prevalent is paying players

866
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: in college football? Does it contribute to the recent lack

867
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: of Parry? If so, how do you address the problem.

868
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: In my opinion, talent and coaching go further and contributing

869
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: to recent dominance of Bama and Clemson. For example, Texas

870
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: has talent and financial backing, but hasn't been able to

871
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: compete with the top tier, in part due to lack

872
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: of player development. Would you be a proponent of college

873
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: football implementing some sort of salary cap for Power five

874
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: if player paying players is that big of an issue.

875
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: Not exactly sure how it would be done, but think

876
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: there are some parallels in the sense that a school

877
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: would be signing a player to a three or five

878
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: year deal. I think it's pretty prevalent. I think it's

879
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: been going on well before I've been alive and will

880
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: go on forever. I don't necessarily see it as a problem, right,

881
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: Paying anyone to do a service is not illegal. They're

882
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: breaking no laws. There breaking n C double A rules.

883
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: They're not. They're not doing anything illegal. They're actually doing

884
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: exactly what capitalism says to do. This guy is really talented,

885
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: give him some cash. Now they're ly galaty. You're not

886
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: supposed to play tax on this cash. But you're right.

887
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: The reason a lot of teams lose every year in

888
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: college football that are paying players. Remember old Miss Goot

889
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: popped with Hugh Freeze for what they got bopped because

890
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 1: he was you know, he was sending or I guess

891
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: hanging out with the hookers, but their payroll was massive.

892
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: Look at their squad tunzil A, J. Brown, DK Metcalf.

893
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: They were stacked that that team was not cheap. They

894
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: didn't win, So the SEC, I think is much more

895
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: like Do I think U. C. L A Is paying

896
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of players? No? Do I think it's happening

897
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: in the SEC? Yes? Do you think it happens at

898
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: most of the top programs? Yes? Do I think it?

899
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: Do I think it happens with I just hand you

900
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: a bad cash? No, I mean it's it's a little

901
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: more complicated than that. Right I can give you. I

902
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: can hire you to do a job, you know, and

903
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: pay you a hundred dollars an hour or you know

904
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: cash or whatever. Right I can tell you to go

905
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: somewhere and there's money waiting for you. Uh. And a

906
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: lot of it is just to help people's family or whatever, right,

907
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: as much as is like get the guy some shoes

908
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: or food. They don't pay for food anyway. I think

909
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: the problem is and this is the NFL, where actually

910
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: it's under the by laws where you can pay players.

911
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: Some coaches are just better than others. Nick Saban has

912
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: nothing in common with the majority of coaches he plays

913
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: every week. He's vastly superior. Same thing with urban Meyer,

914
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: same thing with Lincoln Riley. Like the best coaches typically

915
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: end up at the best programs and they've got huge advantages. Now,

916
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: I know my guys with Oklahoma that he's been on

917
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: this podcast before, Drew Hill and Bob Stoops was very

918
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: very adamant against cheating herd story he's about just like

919
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: it was very serious in that program. And I've heard

920
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: Lincoln takes the same exact stance. So, like, is every

921
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: program operating by the same rules They're not. Some programs

922
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: are going to push the envelope that that other programs

923
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: will not. And like I don't necessarily think you need

924
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: a salary cap. You just need Like Texas had the

925
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: chance to get Nick Saban, he said no, Texas tried

926
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 1: to get urban Meyer. He said no, they got Sark.

927
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: Like recruiting has never been an issue for Sark. So

928
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: whether Texas ends up paying players or not, like they're

929
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: always getting talent, can you coach and develop? Like you said, Like,

930
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: I don't think the money changes anything. A lot of

931
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: programs get high high recruited guys and don't win that

932
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: many games. Right, for every Alabama there are a lot

933
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: of I mean that has been recruiting well for a

934
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: long time. Now what do they have to show for it?

935
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: What do you think of a Siriani means? For Deuce Staley?

936
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: Do you think he stays have offered or has he

937
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: been passed up so many times where he'll want a

938
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: chance elsewhere? Seems like he's not getting a lot of

939
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: buzz despite all his players loving him and the success

940
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 1: for a coach and a player. Thanks, It's a great question.

941
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: This is where like I can't speak for Eric b

942
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: enemy Uh, never been around him. I love Douce Staley

943
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: and if a team hired Doe Staley, I think he

944
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: could win. Like if you hired Dan Campbell as your

945
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: head coach, you could hire Douce Staley to lead your team. Now,

946
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: I don't just do Staley want to become a head coach?

947
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: I've never asked him. I'd imagine he does a lot

948
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: more money. But I think he gets paid a lot

949
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: of money to be with the Eagles, Right, That's the thing. No, this,

950
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: here's the one thing I get a little uncomfortable with

951
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: about the NFL, Like it sucks. Eric b Enemy does

952
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: not get a job, I'll be the first due Like

953
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: that sucks. It's crazy. He makes seven figures. I don't

954
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: know how much Deuce makes. I guess he makes a

955
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: lot of cash. Like, so these guys are getting passed

956
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: up sometimes in in normal jobs, normal people jobs. Like

957
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: if you're working sales job or whatever, you listen to this,

958
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: you have you work, you know, normal times in an office.

959
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: We're a step up and a big promotion is like

960
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: these guys and goes from making eight grand grand like

961
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: that's a big deal for society, right, or go from

962
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: fifty grand to ninety grand, like that changes your life.

963
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: These guys are already making Every coordinator in the league

964
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: makes seven figures, every defensive coordinator. I think the average

965
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: two years ago was almost two million dollars. I mean,

966
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: that's this is it's it's first world problems that we're

967
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: complaining about in the NFL. With the coaching situation now,

968
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: there is a big difference between making one million dollars

969
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: and five as a head coach, but making one million dollars,

970
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 1: Like last time I checked, you're in the one percent

971
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: of the one percent. Life pretty good. Maybe not the

972
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: one percent of the one percent. Maybe you're in the

973
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: I can't even figure that one out. That's I was

974
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna screw up. Would you? What would it take for

975
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to pass Tom Brady is the goat? I

976
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: think if you won like three the next five Super

977
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: Bowls and ended with four and had just one of

978
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: the greatest runs we've ever seen in his late thirties,

979
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: and like one m v ps even then, I mean

980
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 1: Tom's got six. I mean m vps. Is Tom have multiple?

981
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: I mean I just I don't think he can. Actually,

982
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: he'd probably need to. He'd probably need to equal as

983
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. I mean, Aeron's lost in a lot of

984
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: NFC championship games, so Brady, he's won three m vps.

985
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: I think Rogers gonna win his third. I mean, let

986
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: me rattle off some accomplishments for TV twelve, three times

987
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: Super Bowl or six times Super Bowl Champion, four times

988
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP, three time NFL m v P, NFL

989
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: Comeback Player of the Year the year after he you know,

990
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: towards a c L. He's a five time All Pro,

991
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: fourteen time Pro bowler. I mean, it's just I don't

992
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: think it's possible. But one thing I think Rogers can do.

993
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: He wins two in the next five years. All of

994
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: a sudden, we talked about Aaron Rodgers like we do Elway,

995
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: like we do Manning. Is he the second best quarterback

996
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: of all time? Does he compete kind of with Montana

997
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: in the In that conversation, I don't think that's inconceivable.

998
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: I think it's impossible to pass Tom too good. As

999
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: a Titans fan, I'm happy with this test we've had

1000
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: of Rabel becoming the head coach, but I'm curious to

1001
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: see how we do after losing Arthur Smith to the Falcons.

1002
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: Our offense bailed us out a lot of tight games

1003
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: last year, while our defense took a major step back.

1004
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 1: What do you think should be the Titans top priority

1005
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: going into next year. Some of my thoughts are looking

1006
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: into the better pass rushers or finding another weapon in

1007
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: the passing game to make defense is more honest. Possibly

1008
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: zach Ertz. Yeah. When I think of the Titans, I

1009
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: just think they get no pass rushing. They can't cover anybody.

1010
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: So they have a j Brown as a store, Derrick

1011
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: Henry under contract, who's store. Johnny Smith's a good young player.

1012
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill is really good. I think Corey Davis a

1013
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: free agent, but you could draft guy in the middle

1014
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: of the rounds. You need to draft and sign dbs

1015
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: and pass rushers. Now, granted you look at the division,

1016
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: you go, well, Trevor Lawrence is coming in, Deshaun Watson

1017
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: may stay, he could get traded, and the Coast don't

1018
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: have a quarterback. I think the Titans are pretty well

1019
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: set up. They just they need to get another pass

1020
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: rusher and they need to get some dbs. But to me,

1021
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: it's multiple pass rushers. You have a good pass rusher,

1022
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: DBS look better, I think if you can. I don't

1023
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: know who they could get. It's hard to get pass

1024
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: rushers because they don't really become available and the guys

1025
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: that do are usually older. So what are they gonna do?

1026
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: Draft some you know, some star pass rusher in the twenties.

1027
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: That's pretty hard. There aren't you know, for every t J.

1028
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: Watt that lands in the twenties, there's a lot of

1029
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: Marcus Smith's right, So complicated situation, right, I just think

1030
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: you draft and signed defense. I think your offense is

1031
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: good enough and you know whoever, it's hard. I mean,

1032
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: you lose la floor, then you go to Arthur Smith.

1033
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: To be honest, if they even named the offensive coordinator,

1034
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough job to take, because Arthur

1035
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: was Arthur was fantastic. Why do you think the Shanahan

1036
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: offense is becoming so popular in today's game. Is it

1037
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 1: simply that these wonder coaches such as McVeigh I can't

1038
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: even talk and Shanahan came out of the same system

1039
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: and they just happened to be the best in the

1040
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: brightest or is there something about the system that makes

1041
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 1: them inherently productive. Maybe I've read this question a couple

1042
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: of times sitting on my phone. I feel if I

1043
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: answered this last week, I apologize, But this is a

1044
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: good question. I think it has the best of both worlds. One,

1045
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: it has a running game that is very, very easy

1046
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: to find offensive lineman because you just need to find

1047
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: athletic guys. I don't need guys to blow people off

1048
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: the line. And it's easy to find running backs because

1049
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't need a lot of lateral agility. I just

1050
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: need you to be able to get downhill. So why

1051
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: when you think of the great zone running running backs

1052
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: all those years with Shanahan in Denver, from Aryan Foster

1053
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: to the guys in UH in Houston, to Alfred Moore

1054
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: in Washington, to what Girley was doing to UH, to

1055
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: what Davante Freeman did in Atlanta, to what all the

1056
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: guys with the Niners have been doing, to what cam

1057
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: Akers looks to be doing, and Aaron Jones and those

1058
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: guys with the Packers. It is a running scheme that

1059
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: is easy to operate with and while it's also has

1060
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: some soft like I don't need my offensive lineman to

1061
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Speaker 1: be Anthony Monios. I have a very physical running attack twofold.

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Speaker 1: I use a fullback, so I have a lead blocker

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Speaker 1: into My running back is not a dancing player. You

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00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: want a guy to put his foot in the ground

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Speaker 1: and get vertical. It's why when Chip Kelly got to

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Speaker 1: the job with Philly, he didn't really love Shady because

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00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: he wanted a vertical running back. He wanted what's his name,

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Speaker 1: de Marco Murray? Is that his name? DeMarco Murray? DeMarcus Murray.

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Speaker 1: I can't even remember. He's a coach for the Oklahoma

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00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: Sooners right now, the old cowboy running back. I feel

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00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: like I'm saying his name wrong, but it was a disaster.

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Speaker 1: But that's the type running back you want in the scheme.

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Speaker 1: Rahe Mozart, you know, Tevin Coleman. The guys are using

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Speaker 1: l A right now. Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams looks

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00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: like stars. Now they're good players. All these guys are

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00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: good players. But it's easy to succeed. And then because

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00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: the running game is gonna be successful if you have

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Speaker 1: a guy implementing that knows what you're doing. Do you

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00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: know what easy it is to pass when you were

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00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: gutting people? Oh, Tennessee does it too, So I'm just

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00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: gutting you on the ground. Well, what happens? You start cheating?

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00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: So it has like the the the the base of

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00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: the offense is the run game is outside and inside zone,

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00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: but it's really outside zone and its leads with a

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Speaker 1: full back and I mean, I guess Tennessee doesn't really

1086
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: use it full back up, but the Niners do. And

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00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: it gives you the ability to bust it outside and

1088
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: if it's not there, you can cut it back. So

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00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: then you start cheating. And then I start playing count

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00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: cat and mouse game. Then I do play action, Then

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00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: I do boots, and I do rollouts. And you have

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01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: no clue what's coming. And it's why. When this offense works.

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Speaker 1: And you've seen it with the Packers this year, and

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01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: you've seen it with the Rams, You've seen it with

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Speaker 1: the Niners, You've seen it with the Titans. When the

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01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: quarterback is just functioning, your defense is so off balance,

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01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: I can run outside, right or left. I can gut

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01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: you up the middle, and I can throw it either

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Speaker 1: way right because I can get lay up throws right

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01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: and left. I can take deep shots off play action

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01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: and I get these just lay up easy completions on

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01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: these play action boots where I just dump it off

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01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: to the tight end and he's got ten yards of

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01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: grass to pick me up first downs. It really is

1105
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: an incredible offense. Now you need the right personnel. I

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01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: need athletic lineman and I need the right kind of

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01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: running backs. I also need my wide receivers the block.

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01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: If your wide receivers won't block, you have an issue.

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01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: It's why Kyle Shanahan, he's big on like Deebo Samuel Right.

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01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: He wants George Kittle like he wants his skill guys

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01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: to block. Look at tennessee A J. Brown, Corey Avis.

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Speaker 1: Guys are bigger wide receivers. Mcveigh's got, you know, his

1113
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: guys blocking and then he uses the tight end. It's

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Speaker 1: just it's a fantastic offense. And those guys, all those

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01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: guys La Fleur, obviously Kyle and McVeigh, they learn from

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01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: the master of the offense in Papa Mike. So they

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01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: learned from the guy. It's like, why did Mike Shanahan,

1118
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Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren and all these guys end up such good

1119
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: offensive coaches? I don't know. They learn from Bill Walsh.

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Speaker 1: So when when you have the opportunity to learn from

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01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: the guy that originates the offense, you're gonna be successful.

1122
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: Like why do so many Like why does Cliff Kingsbury

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Speaker 1: whether his defenses are good or not, like he can

1124
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Speaker 1: throw points? Why he learned from Mike Leach? Who Lincoln

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Speaker 1: Riley learned from Mike Leach. Those guys understand the offense

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Speaker 1: because they fucking learned it from Mike Leach. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a big part. Right, If you just learn your profession,

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Speaker 1: whatever it may be, from the guy who's great at

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Speaker 1: that profession, If you're not an idiot and you take

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Speaker 1: decent notes and just listen, you got a chance, and

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Speaker 1: I guess that's probably the best way I can describe it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone listen, have a great weekend. Audios. R

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Speaker 1: I P. Ted Thompson. I forgot to mention that Super

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01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: Bowl champ drafted Aaron Rodgers. I saw Aaron Rodgers had

1135
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: a good statement. He said he always ended his UH

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Speaker 1: his yearly talk with the team with a word, and

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Speaker 1: I like, I love the word as well. God Speed.

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Speaker 1: Have a great week r I P. Ted