Speaker 1: Hello everyone. I'm Devin Simone and I'm Anissa Freira and
Speaker 1: this is MTV's official Challenge podcast, and today we're covering
Speaker 1: episodes eleven and twelve of The Challenge Free Agents. The final.
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to talk about your triumphant scaling of
Speaker 2: the volcano. Yes, but back to business. Remember, folks, you
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Okay, let's talk about first the TVT moment of
Speaker 1: the episode, and then let's leave that in the past
Speaker 1: and the fashion corner. I'm gonna throw it to you
Speaker 1: who gives Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give a moment of that episode.
Speaker 1: There's so many moments.
Speaker 2: I'm really proud of you, though, thanks because that shit
Speaker 2: did look hard. It was as hell it was, and
Speaker 2: that means that in a final that isn't that hard,
Speaker 2: second place could have been yours too.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 2: So I want to you know, the moment of the
Speaker 2: season is you never getting a kill card, and two
Speaker 2: persevering and getting up the mountain. However, this I'd like
Speaker 2: to leave in the past.
Speaker 1: The capsized capsize.
Speaker 2: Situation girl, where I don't know where Zach is well,
Speaker 2: Ben neither do I. I'd also like to leave in
Speaker 2: the past all of the mones from Zach because if
Speaker 2: we could have taken as rifle moans, we could have
Speaker 2: dubbed them for cinemax.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, right, Yes, yes, girl, I
Speaker 1: know what I'm like.
Speaker 2: I had to turn it down while I watched it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, my neighbor is making some shits going on
Speaker 2: in here. It's really Zach's full body got full body cramp.
Speaker 1: It was a mess. Any any fashion corner moments for
Speaker 1: you from these two episodes, I mean.
Speaker 2: At the end when we find out who wins those
Speaker 2: beanies those knit aanie don't have mine? I think you
Speaker 2: should burn it along with you know, hey, and you had.
Speaker 1: A new wig. You had a new wig. H it
Speaker 1: was a deep ways mm hmmm. You brought that one
Speaker 1: out and I did that.
Speaker 2: I did that was probably like your your exit interview
Speaker 2: wig because your hair is probably so fucked up from
Speaker 2: the swing.
Speaker 3: Girl.
Speaker 1: Don't you know it? A dice? Don't you know it?
Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, you want me to be ready because
Speaker 2: I want to get my phone back.
Speaker 1: Let me. It was the only wig that had life left.
Speaker 1: It was the only I brought for It was the
Speaker 1: only one that had life left. By the end, I'd
Speaker 1: say my throwback moment of the episode has to be coming.
Speaker 1: It's actually what didn't make it on air, and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about it a little bit when we dig deeper
Speaker 1: into this upisode. But it so I know that kind
Speaker 1: of breaks the rules, but it was just after reaching
Speaker 1: the top of that volcano. I will never forget that
Speaker 1: moment and I'll tell you guys a little bit more
Speaker 1: about it. The let's leave it in the past would
Speaker 1: have to be the way that Zach spoke to Laurel
Speaker 1: and they did the flashback heard about am, which was
Speaker 1: just you know, abhorrence and I always spoke to you, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: how But but if you notice he didn't go like
Speaker 1: swearing at me. He did speak to me crazy, and
Speaker 1: we are going to talk about that too, because he
Speaker 1: tried to blame me. But I'm gonna tell y'all what
Speaker 1: really went down.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And in the fashion corner, you know, Oh, the other
Speaker 1: thing I want to throw back or leave in the
Speaker 1: past sunblock that's not made for black people. My face
Speaker 1: looks so ashy and because sun not at the end,
Speaker 1: it was those glasses.
Speaker 2: I will take you and looking like you were in
Speaker 2: Blade and leave it in the past.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, uh, we can't wear every sunblock. Now there
Speaker 1: are some that we can wear and you should be
Speaker 1: wearing it. But that whatever they handed us that day
Speaker 1: was not it.
Speaker 2: So I'm a little They might as well have given
Speaker 2: you just just white page. They really they should have
Speaker 2: given you Almer's glue and said figure it out.
Speaker 1: They're like, why does she look ashy on the mountaintop
Speaker 1: because I'm protecting my skin. All right, you guys, we
Speaker 1: have so much to delve into, getting into episodes eleven
Speaker 1: and twelve of Free Agents. Excited to share that with you,
Speaker 1: so stay tuned, don't go anywhere, because Anissa and I
Speaker 1: will be right back. Welcome back, you guys. All right,
Speaker 1: we're talking about episode eleven of the Challenge Free Agents.
Speaker 1: It's been so fun doing this REWALTX with you guys.
Speaker 1: We had mentioned you guys sending us notes in questions,
Speaker 1: so I do want to shout this one out back
Speaker 1: when we watched the trivia episode and Nini you got
Speaker 1: the question about the most populous country. Right, wasn't that? Ah?
Speaker 2: I feel like I got the same message where the
Speaker 2: person then said that now it's different, so that question
Speaker 2: would be nice.
Speaker 1: Void's right, so maybe you should go back and actroactively
Speaker 1: get the point India. Yeah, so it was at the
Speaker 1: time China, but now India has surpassed China in that
Speaker 1: Thank you, I read that question. Whoever, I've been a writer.
Speaker 1: I've been the writer ninety five sent that to us,
Speaker 1: So thank you. I'm in the writer ninety five. He's
Speaker 1: in it to DMS. I appreciate that. All right. Now
Speaker 1: let's get into episode eleven when we showed up Anissa tole.
Speaker 3: All Right, guys, it's getting real serious. In fact, it's
Speaker 3: so serious, I think it's time for us to change venues.
Speaker 3: So meet me at the airport. We're going to the
Speaker 3: Andes Mountains.
Speaker 2: No, this isn't what happened first. When this is First
Speaker 2: of all, we left off with episode ten on a
Speaker 2: continue which which they shout out to shout out to Davon.
Speaker 1: I hates them. I hate them too. We hate a cliffhanger.
Speaker 1: I don't mind it.
Speaker 2: So we get into it. Leroy VCT.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna start with the guys.
Speaker 3: All right, good lucks do it.
Speaker 1: Going up against CC tonight is definitely a big deal.
Speaker 3: Hearing myself with both power players in this game. For
Speaker 3: me to be able to sit him home will definitely
Speaker 3: change the game a lot. I just want to win,
Speaker 3: like I need.
Speaker 1: His money, get it.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like a challenge.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go home now.
Speaker 3: I'm to give everything I got my focused.
Speaker 1: I just keep replaying over and over and over.
Speaker 3: When am I doing that wall climb?
Speaker 4: That wall, hit the bell, climb, that wall.
Speaker 3: Hit the bell.
Speaker 2: Oh so sad to see Lego and CT was just
Speaker 2: crushing through that wall. He really would And then you
Speaker 2: know you have Laurel versus Caara.
Speaker 1: You were there. I mean, so I'm going against Laurel.
Speaker 1: Didn't see that coming. But I'm here to compete. This
Speaker 1: is fun. I'm thankful that I'm even here in the
Speaker 1: first place. So whatever will be will be. But I
Speaker 1: promise you I will give a million percent if I
Speaker 1: have to scale the wall with one hand.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, this is a game, and I'm not thinking about
Speaker 4: who I'm going against. I'm thinking about beating myself and
Speaker 4: doing the best that I can. My focus is not
Speaker 4: on car, it's on this game tonight bringing the.
Speaker 1: Ball, which we had been waiting for. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: that sounds much that we had been waiting for it.
Speaker 1: But the build up, right, because they came into the
Speaker 1: house best friends and at that point had sort of
Speaker 1: become these almost like mortal enemies. So to see them
Speaker 1: and they both are excellent competitors, so to see them
Speaker 1: face off head to head like that was really like
Speaker 1: the match to what. We got so many epic matches
Speaker 1: actually the season, because we get this match and then
Speaker 1: we later get to see Bananas and ct which and
Speaker 1: then we had Jordan and Banana. There's just a lot
Speaker 1: of epic matches this season. But seeing the Kara Laurel
Speaker 1: one was pretty epic in person. But then seeing Kara
Speaker 1: break down like that, And Lisa, what did you think
Speaker 1: when you saw Kara really cry and break down when
Speaker 1: she lost that elimination.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said last week, there is that that adrenaline.
Speaker 1: One, right, oh right?
Speaker 2: And two you've been fighting with this friend who you
Speaker 2: don't even know what kind of friendship it is, and
Speaker 2: this is potentially the last eliment before the final.
Speaker 1: Right and right, you're so poor you're.
Speaker 2: Injured, and injuries make you I feel a little bit
Speaker 2: more emotional than you would be otherwise because you feel
Speaker 2: like you're already at a disadvantage, which she was going. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it still didn't stop her from competing. M hm,
Speaker 2: which you know says something about her absolutely slightly bon conic.
Speaker 1: Slightly bon conic. Yes, slightly bonnic. I did put that
Speaker 1: poll up on my Instagram last week and a lot
Speaker 1: of people, Yeah, I think it is. I think it's
Speaker 1: bone conic is exactly what it is.
Speaker 2: Which I think is a lot of the moves that
Speaker 2: we've made. I think in the few the first you know,
Speaker 2: two decades of the show.
Speaker 1: Yea very.
Speaker 2: Iconic and ridiculous at the same time.
Speaker 1: And you need that. It's why this show is so
Speaker 1: great because you get a mix of both. So now
Speaker 1: Car's gone, LeRoy's gone, We're down to the final four girls,
Speaker 1: four boys. We're told we're getting a change of scenery.
Speaker 2: I know, these guys are so mad. Set's still there.
Speaker 1: We go and get a new go to a new location.
Speaker 1: You know, what was interesting about this group is like
Speaker 1: it was highly competitive and there was a little toxicity
Speaker 1: in there, mainly talking about treason. But other than that,
Speaker 1: it was even though we were competing against each other,
Speaker 1: it was actually weirdly close knit. And if you like
Speaker 1: watch the episodes, you see glimpses of that, right, like
Speaker 1: everybody wants to win. Obviously me I wanted to survive,
Speaker 1: but but you still see I just girl, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to live to see another day. But you still
Speaker 1: still see people hugging it out and congratulating and even
Speaker 1: like helping. And we'll get to that, but it was
Speaker 1: it was just an interesting dynamic. So we got to
Speaker 1: the house that night, We're hanging out, we're having fun,
Speaker 1: but we're also like a little scared or uneasy, like
Speaker 1: you know when you have that feeling in the pit
Speaker 1: of your stomach. It's it is that. And then we
Speaker 1: find out that there is a surprise one more elimination. Girl,
Speaker 1: when I tell you I saw those kill cards laid out,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is definitely it. Like this,
Speaker 1: I love that elimination.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it too, because really surprised about CT's
Speaker 2: performance considering how good he is.
Speaker 1: Yes, everybody's money was on CT in that everybody's money
Speaker 1: was on CT in that moment, Like it.
Speaker 2: Was Johnny said, up such a puzzles and I'm like,
Speaker 2: you nailed that. I mean, yeah, last one not so much.
Speaker 2: I think that everybody got hung up on that. But
Speaker 2: you know, and it was hard to watch Teresa get
Speaker 2: you know, be that emotional during it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she did a good comeback because she was
Speaker 1: like so emotional at first, and then she caught up
Speaker 1: to Laurel, which is proof like if you focus on
Speaker 1: your own thing, you're still in the game. It was
Speaker 1: neck and you just.
Speaker 2: Put one piece in the right place, you know, it
Speaker 2: all falls, you know, everything falls in line.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what was I gonna say? Damn it?
Speaker 1: Oh well, this is what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: I found it okay that I don't know why you
Speaker 2: and Johnny Riley after the show didn't go play the
Speaker 2: lottery for a good point between the luck of both
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 1: Good pace. Do you think the wild? Yeah, isn't that
Speaker 1: wild that neither of us pulled? And there were so
Speaker 1: many variations, like meaning like people can't say it's rigged
Speaker 1: because there were times that we picked first, there were
Speaker 1: times that we picked last. So other people just picked
Speaker 1: it on their own. Like it was so many.
Speaker 2: Raird I mean, the time she did, she did, nothing changed.
Speaker 1: It was wild that we both I mean, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: so grateful, so grateful for that. Although I like a
Speaker 1: good puzzle, but I'd much rather like to not go
Speaker 1: into elimination the day before the final. So it was
Speaker 1: pretty brutal. It was brutal to watch that, But it's
Speaker 1: us all up and just like put it kind of
Speaker 1: like put us on notice about this final that was
Speaker 1: that was coming up.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that it was about to be a life change,
Speaker 1: you know. TJ said in his little note, the hardest
Speaker 1: thing you've ever done, and he was not kidding, and
Speaker 1: it was a life changing moment that was just around
Speaker 1: the corner, which is which was wild wild. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't love it.
Speaker 2: I don't love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also want to point out the shit talking that
Speaker 1: was happening about because I've seen comments about this online
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Actually there's like a clip someone put together
Speaker 1: that's actually kind of funny, but and they put like, oh,
Speaker 1: the other players sort of picking on me or like
Speaker 1: the shit talking about me, And honestly, look, I I talked,
Speaker 1: I joke about other people. But I can definitely take
Speaker 1: a joke and joke about myself, and I think most
Speaker 1: of it was in good fun, like honestly, like I didn't.
Speaker 1: I actually, like I said, felt that group was weird
Speaker 1: and it yeah, like yeah, they were very supportive of
Speaker 1: each other. Like I feel like we all really were
Speaker 1: supportive of the space that we were in, and I
Speaker 1: loved that. That made that season so special, and I
Speaker 1: think that was true about the season as a whole.
Speaker 1: I actually took a screenshot of a freeze frame Nini
Speaker 1: of you and me laughing at the bachelorette party. Oh
Speaker 1: my god.
Speaker 2: It was great because they were like laughs and there
Speaker 2: was laughter and tears.
Speaker 1: And we were like yeah, yeah, exactly, and it was
Speaker 1: so great.
Speaker 2: I loved like we probably laughed like these people are
Speaker 2: gonna hate when they had to watch us back.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. I don't even think I was
Speaker 1: thinking that far at the moment, but I would have
Speaker 1: worn different things if I was. But it was it
Speaker 1: was you know. I feel like episode eleven really did
Speaker 1: lay the ground for work for what episode was to come.
Speaker 1: Yeah was going to be. And so we've just laid
Speaker 1: the groundwork by going through episode eleven with you, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break, but right after that,
Speaker 1: we are going to dive into the absolute epic final
Speaker 1: that happened on the Challenge pree Age. Stay right here, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Devin, It's the time we've all been waiting for,
Speaker 2: especially you. It's episode twelve and the final is finally here.
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: How are you feeling?
Speaker 1: Do you know that, even after all these years, I
Speaker 1: still get emotional? Like so if I start crying by
Speaker 1: the end of this podcast episode, nobody listening, judge me,
Speaker 1: do not ardge me. It really still makes me very emotional.
Speaker 1: It was and is a defining moment of my life
Speaker 1: for so many reasons. Things that you guys saw on camera,
Speaker 1: things that you didn't. I'll try to share some kind
Speaker 1: of behind the scenes tidbits with you guys about it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, starting with one thing that I learned I
Speaker 1: didn't realize and he so, do you have like a
Speaker 1: when you're nervous? Do you have a tell you know,
Speaker 1: like a thing that you find that you just kind
Speaker 1: of do when you're a little I play with my hair, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like twirl my curls, I mean, or I play
Speaker 1: with my hands.
Speaker 2: I don't really know, but normally my hair if it's down.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I realize I yawn.
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize that until MTV put a photo
Speaker 1: up of us lined up at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: final and TJ telling us about the final and everyone
Speaker 1: else looking they're so serious, and me with my arms
Speaker 1: crossed yawning and I'm not yawning because I am bored
Speaker 1: at the final. It is literally and there's a name
Speaker 1: for it. I forgot the name is, but it is
Speaker 1: like my and I find I still do that if
Speaker 1: I'm actually, like quite nervous about something. Did I for
Speaker 1: your whole wedding? Were you yawning your whole wedding? I
Speaker 1: wasn't nervous for a wedding. I knew I was making
Speaker 1: the right choice marrying the amazing like the most amazing man,
Speaker 1: and that all the that it was just gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't nervous for the wedding
Speaker 1: at all. But I was nervous as hell for TJ's final,
Speaker 1: And so I sure heck did do a yawn while
Speaker 1: everybody else is there looking serious. Now let's get into
Speaker 1: that kayak.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, Stage one kayak, you got the race
Speaker 3: out for the middle of the river, grab your paddle,
Speaker 3: come back, push your boat into the river. Go to
Speaker 3: the finish line as fast as you can. I'm a
Speaker 3: pretty good roller, but I've never done a tandem roll
Speaker 3: with a female. Playing sports with girls is kind of
Speaker 3: my nightmare. So I'm a little bit nervous about how
Speaker 3: Devin will perform.
Speaker 1: So Zach over here is talking about how he's been kayaking,
Speaker 1: and he was like row team or whatever else. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm gonna take your lead, because here's
Speaker 1: what this is.
Speaker 2: Like, this is like what theo's theo's dolphin pa, Yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, in his bags where he can swim. Right,
Speaker 1: Zach probably kayak when he was two, Right, So Zach's like,
Speaker 1: I got this full my lead boment. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: And if there's one thing I can do, it's talk.
Speaker 1: But the other thing I can do is follow instructions.
Speaker 1: I'm really good at I can listen and follow instructions.
Speaker 1: So everything Zach's telling me to do that you see
Speaker 1: him telling me to do, I am in fact doing. However,
Speaker 1: Zach's behind puts us in the canoe backwards to start
Speaker 1: it is turned around, so that that's why it kept turning. Now, mister,
Speaker 1: I know the kayak I said exactly where Zach told
Speaker 1: me to sit. I paddled exactly when Zach told me
Speaker 1: to paddle. It was backwards and he never knew it.
Speaker 1: Yet he wants to blame me. Also, I listened to
Speaker 1: instructions so well that I listened to the safety instructions,
Speaker 1: which is, when you get knocked out of the raft,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to immediately grab a rock and then make
Speaker 1: an X signal above your head to say whether or
Speaker 1: not you are safe or you need to get his
Speaker 1: behind listen to nothing. Yet he wanted to blame me.
Speaker 1: So take from it what you will, all right, you
Speaker 1: can take the person who was making sex noises and
Speaker 1: moaning and complaining the whole way up the hill, or
Speaker 1: you can listen in to me, the rational one. But
Speaker 1: I was not the reason why the kayak ticked over.
Speaker 1: Zach one hundred percent was the reason why I tipped over.
Speaker 1: But no, but I feel like, yeah, there were these
Speaker 1: karma moments. Mm hmm, peo, Bill got I mean, even
Speaker 1: in eliminations, even all the way up to this, it
Speaker 1: was kind of like, I mean, except for my loss.
Speaker 1: My loss was purely because I lost. I don't think
Speaker 1: it was karma. You didn't do anything. I played a
Speaker 1: pretty pretty decent game. I agree. I agree you didn't
Speaker 1: do anything like shape like, I completely agree.
Speaker 2: So uh, I mean, maybe I could have died on
Speaker 2: this fanel like maybe something bad would have happened, So
Speaker 2: maybe I needed to be home for something else whatever.
Speaker 2: But it was funny to hear somebody talk all that shit.
Speaker 1: And we can't eat right, and I was worried for him.
Speaker 2: I mean, of course I was worried because I had
Speaker 2: never watched it till like an hour ago, and I
Speaker 2: have only watched the end because of the series we
Speaker 2: well that, yeah, the series we all did in la
Speaker 2: oh yeah, this moment where you did cry when we
Speaker 2: talked about it when we went over it on the podcast,
Speaker 2: and it is an emotional moment.
Speaker 3: I get that.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah.
Speaker 2: So I've only watched you like in your glasses and
Speaker 2: some block going up the mountain. I have a volcano.
Speaker 2: I've never I haven't seen the other parts.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, So what did you think now seeing the
Speaker 1: other parts for the first time? Like, as I view
Speaker 1: your thought.
Speaker 2: I get where other We're all stars one got their
Speaker 2: final from.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm mm hmmm, mm hmmm, the.
Speaker 2: Whole We had to kayak first or canoe whatever for Yeah,
Speaker 2: we did it for life two hours. It was the
Speaker 2: fucking longest well it felt like two hours. And then
Speaker 2: after that we had to put together I don't remember
Speaker 2: how long thing and then after and then solve a puzzle,
Speaker 2: and then we had to run together and we switched
Speaker 2: partners at each station.
Speaker 1: Can I just say because it was the only it
Speaker 1: was pretty much the only leg that I didn't come
Speaker 1: in close to last place was with the Bananas, who
Speaker 1: was actually a very lovely partner.
Speaker 3: Stage two this is a ten k run. You're gonna
Speaker 3: run up this trail as fast as you can. So
Speaker 3: you come to a puzzle, are they gonna solve that
Speaker 3: puzzle and your time will be stopped. For this stage,
Speaker 3: the teams are going to be Johnny and Laurel, Zach
Speaker 3: and Nannie as Banana is a DEVI.
Speaker 1: Yes, he did carry me on his back part of
Speaker 1: the way. U. He really did. But when we did
Speaker 1: with the ambulance truck following very closely behind. So if
Speaker 1: you guys don't know, in the final there is an
Speaker 1: ambulance truck that is just outside of shot. But that
Speaker 1: is literally inching along with us in case of, you know,
Speaker 1: an emergency. And because these final span such a wide
Speaker 1: like area, right, so like we're just in one little
Speaker 1: area where it can say stationary. Literally was like driving
Speaker 1: behind us. And so since we were last on the run,
Speaker 1: then usually the ambulance is behind the last team, So
Speaker 1: it was just like inching along behind us as we go.
Speaker 1: But our smarts helped make up for my lack of
Speaker 1: running abilities. Also, I didn't struggle as much as I
Speaker 1: did in Battle of the Seasons because my shoes fit
Speaker 1: this time and they did not in Battle of the Seasons.
Speaker 1: So the hack that Johnny and I came up with
Speaker 1: with figuring out putting the tree in the order of
Speaker 1: the shape and not just the cities. See, that's why
Speaker 1: it pays to think outside of the box. And also
Speaker 1: sometimes that's what you can do with neurodiversity. You think
Speaker 1: differently than other people, but it means sometimes you've come
Speaker 1: to solutions in ways that people wouldn't have, so it
Speaker 1: definitely helps. Then we get to the rock climb part.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, Stage three, You guys are gonna race
Speaker 3: up this trail. This trail is gonna lead you to
Speaker 3: some stuff that you're probably not gonna be happy with.
Speaker 1: I actually really enjoyed that. You'll notice you don't see
Speaker 1: any clips of me whining like Zach, because it was
Speaker 1: quite beautiful. Scaling the side of that mountain and then
Speaker 1: coming down was actually very scary. It was so scary
Speaker 1: that the camera crew was like, nah, y'all on your own,
Speaker 1: so they followed us up the mountain, and then they
Speaker 1: did not repel down because it was pretty straight down
Speaker 1: and quite dangerous for them, so they just relied on
Speaker 1: our GoPros for that. Zach cried like a baby the
Speaker 1: whole time, as you guys all saw.
Speaker 2: I think I fast forward at that part. Can you
Speaker 2: tell me about it? Oh my god, I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: to go back.
Speaker 1: He cried, cried, like cried, then starts yelling at Laurel,
Speaker 1: right because Laurel's like Zach. First she tries to be
Speaker 1: nice to him. Then he starts like whining. And the
Speaker 1: thing is, Zach actually even started crying I think before,
Speaker 1: or like whining before we got to the rock part,
Speaker 1: because he said his legs were cramping up because we
Speaker 1: had to get in cars to drive us between locations.
Speaker 1: So it's like, once we finished doing the kayak, we
Speaker 1: got in a car to drive us too. They're running.
Speaker 1: They don't know that. Why don't you know that effects? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: like I'm sharing that with the listeners. You guys can
Speaker 1: get some like inside scoop. But that's kind of how
Speaker 1: that goes, right. So in the car, they're like giving
Speaker 1: us snacks like it's like an apple and like, you know,
Speaker 1: a cheese sandwich or something, and that's like, my legs
Speaker 1: are cramping up. And he's already on the baby miss,
Speaker 1: and so Laurel tries being nice at first, and then
Speaker 1: Laurel's frustrated and then he starts like cursing out Laurel,
Speaker 1: and Laurel's like, yes, use that anger, use that anger.
Speaker 1: Channel it because he's about to cost her. She's in
Speaker 1: the lead and he's about to cost her the final
Speaker 1: because he's whining like a big baby. Yet he wanted
Speaker 1: to talk such smack about being worried about being paired
Speaker 1: with me. I should have been worried about being paired
Speaker 1: with you. I bet if I was with any other boy,
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't have come last in the kayaking challenge.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it. But anyway, so after we
Speaker 1: do the mountain side climb, we get to that damn
Speaker 1: bike and that's where we see Nannie breakdown.
Speaker 3: Welcome to Stage four. The volcano bike. Twenty five miles
Speaker 3: stands between you a good meal and some rest.
Speaker 1: What all right, uh, twenty five miles. I live in Manhattan.
Speaker 1: The whole island of Manhattan is not even twenty five miles.
Speaker 1: This is going to be a long night. I very
Speaker 1: much remember that. I mean, Nanny had been so chilled
Speaker 1: the whole time. And then I don't know if Nanny
Speaker 1: felt inspired by Zach's breakdown, to be honest or what. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think he thought when she broke down that
Speaker 1: they were going to give her a break or you know,
Speaker 1: like let her rest and come back. And Brad think
Speaker 1: the moment when.
Speaker 2: You stick, you're like, oh shit, everything hurts, like powering
Speaker 2: through it. I don't feel as much pain as when
Speaker 2: when we stop them, we're like, okay, full body scan
Speaker 2: what's going on? Because they they love having a stationary
Speaker 2: bike in finals for some reason. I mean we started one,
Speaker 2: we did a what a sixty k? Well, yeah, we
Speaker 2: had to do a sixty k between that, wait, what
Speaker 2: do we do know one hundred where on rider eyes
Speaker 2: we had to start with oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, which was oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: yeah I read that, yeah yeah yeah. That's it's no fun.
Speaker 2: But they love to see They love to see that
Speaker 2: because it took us about two hours we were assuming
Speaker 2: each to finish our portion of it, because as a
Speaker 2: team you had to get to one hundred.
Speaker 1: But they love to see that.
Speaker 2: And then even us like kind of fresh as the
Speaker 2: daisy walking into it doing that and then waking up
Speaker 2: the next day, I'm like, oh shit, my hip, oh
Speaker 2: my thigh, because you just want it to be over
Speaker 2: so we could and this wasn't even for us to
Speaker 2: go to bed yet. Yea, yours was, so you can
Speaker 2: guess in damn sleep, but.
Speaker 1: Ours was also, oh yeah, it's a Brooklyn, Brooklyn, the
Speaker 1: real world dog. He's still here, alive and kicking ours.
Speaker 1: You know, your body's already sore because you've had a
Speaker 1: full day of all these things, and then you think
Speaker 1: you're going to get sleep, and now it's cold because
Speaker 1: now again, remember we've taken cars to each space. So yes,
Speaker 1: when we were running it was hot. When we were kayaking,
Speaker 1: it wasn't hot, but it was. It was like moderate temperature.
Speaker 1: But now at the base of this snow covered volcano,
Speaker 1: it's cold. It's literally freezing. It's cold as hell, and
Speaker 1: but you're still caked in sweat, like sweat that hasn't dried,
Speaker 1: so you're in damp, gross clothes, sitting outside with the
Speaker 1: bike up you're behind.
Speaker 2: It was, Yeah, the ass, that's a that's tough. If
Speaker 2: you don't you don't go to soul cycle or pellet
Speaker 2: peloton or whatever, you're gonna definitely feel the effects of
Speaker 2: a small bike seat. Yes, I want to know how
Speaker 2: much sleep did you actually get.
Speaker 1: I may have gotten an hour or so, certainly the hours.
Speaker 1: It's better than no hours. But it was cold and
Speaker 1: so well by the time I got back in the tent,
Speaker 1: And it was interesting watching that playback by the way
Speaker 1: and seeing myself because I don't remember in the moment
Speaker 1: me singing I know I can, I know I can
Speaker 1: to myself. I love that, but obviously you know that's
Speaker 1: what happens in fight or flight is I was telling myself,
Speaker 1: I know I can, and it really did help. When
Speaker 1: I got in, all these fools had already eaten. They
Speaker 1: were all huddled together because it was so cold, even
Speaker 1: with sleeping bags. Basically we slept in a pile. So
Speaker 1: I'm like the runt basically coming in while they're sleeping,
Speaker 1: trying to like nuzzle up to their warmth. Also just
Speaker 1: so I can get an hour of sleep. And then
Speaker 1: we wait. It feels like it was two minutes, and
Speaker 1: then TJ comes in and it's like time to get up,
Speaker 1: and it's the worst when he comes in. God, it's
Speaker 1: the worst teaching.
Speaker 2: But you can't wait for AI to be there. It's
Speaker 2: like it's like, I don't know, I feel indifferent. It's
Speaker 2: like you want him to get there so you could
Speaker 2: be done already, right, But then you also would love
Speaker 2: to get a couple more hours of sleep and be
Speaker 2: a functional hero being in the morning, right.
Speaker 1: Right, It's sort of yeah, it's a bit of both,
Speaker 1: I mean, but then you want.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I was about to get to your snowcover
Speaker 2: mountain and I think I can.
Speaker 1: I think I can. Uh. Oh yeah, I was thinking
Speaker 1: I can, and then I went to sleep and I
Speaker 1: was like, nah, bitch, you can't. And then I woke up.
Speaker 1: We woke up and TJ came in. Bothe TJ and
Speaker 1: one of the producers basically said, TJ was like, basically
Speaker 1: they thought when we got to the ind of visual
Speaker 1: legs that I would quit or that I would not
Speaker 1: be able to finish. So they were all shocked that
Speaker 1: I had completed the bike, which I didn't know until
Speaker 1: that next morning, and so TJ kind of said that
Speaker 1: to me, like, oh, you know, you did it or
Speaker 1: something like that, and that's when I realized just how
Speaker 1: much well maybe not even fully how much, but still that,
Speaker 1: Oh they're really are they root for you too? They do,
Speaker 1: they do, but they also like no one, no one
Speaker 1: expected me question to yes.
Speaker 2: Ask okay, So so you get up, you're like fuck mountain.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, welcome to the final Challenge. WHOA what
Speaker 3: is it? It's been a long road, but it all
Speaker 3: comes down to this. This is the hardest final challenge
Speaker 3: I've ever seen. You guys have to summit this volcano.
Speaker 3: Tie the flag of the top, and I'll stop your time.
Speaker 3: Bring that time back down here to me. We're gonna
Speaker 3: have all of your times from all five stages. The
Speaker 3: guy and girl with the fastest overall time will be
Speaker 3: crown champion. A free agency and received one and twenty
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Everybody takes off, You're like, I'm going at my own pace? Yes,
Speaker 2: are you with a snowmobile and a cameraman?
Speaker 1: I am with the camera crew, which I found out
Speaker 1: later was because they had assigned me my own own
Speaker 1: personal camera crew to catch the moment that I quit
Speaker 1: because they just knew. But were they on a snowmobile? No,
Speaker 1: they were walking the girl. They didn't need to be
Speaker 1: that beast on a snowmobile. The pace I was going.
Speaker 2: The thing is like I would take a you know
Speaker 2: when you.
Speaker 1: Couldn't take snowmobiles up there by the way, that mountain
Speaker 1: was so steep you could there were no snowmobiles up there.
Speaker 2: But there was an interesting edit there. If you don't
Speaker 2: catch yeah, ninety million people on top of that volcano
Speaker 2: when they draw out for like the bird's eye view
Speaker 2: of everything. Because what they don't understand is when you're done, well,
Speaker 2: everyone who's been trailing everyone, So the three people per
Speaker 2: your sound person, you're you know, you're a camera person,
Speaker 2: and some like there are three people per per person
Speaker 2: at this point. So someone's getting you the go the
Speaker 2: your gopro's getting you know, your point of view and
Speaker 2: then there's a drone of sorts catching everything else. So
Speaker 2: it's like by the time you get up there, these
Speaker 2: people have also done the final as well, and they
Speaker 2: are now.
Speaker 1: On the mountain.
Speaker 2: So then you got to take a helicopter back down nope,
Speaker 2: or something else because they probably couldn't land up there. No.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. We got a delayed start anyway
Speaker 1: because there was a snowstorm coming and it was or
Speaker 1: not snowstorp, sorry, a windstorm. And it was too windy
Speaker 1: to be up there because if you notice, it's in
Speaker 1: the Andes Mountain range, it's literally above the clouds. Is
Speaker 1: how far up that mountain is? Yeah, and so we
Speaker 1: had a delayed start. Then finally they're like, okay, we
Speaker 1: have clearance to go, so we go, but we have
Speaker 1: a hard timeline of when we need to get down
Speaker 1: because that windstorm is coming back, and now the like
Speaker 1: city officials, the park ranger are declaring that, like everyone
Speaker 1: is going to need to evacuate that mountain. And so
Speaker 1: as we're getting up there, right, I'm about halfway up.
Speaker 1: I'm halfway up. Everybody else probably at the top of
Speaker 1: that point, I don't know, I'm halfway up. They're rechange,
Speaker 1: they're changing my battery. And the snow, by the way,
Speaker 1: just makes it so much worse because it was so
Speaker 1: many feet of snow. You I mean, and you kind
Speaker 1: of see it happened to Zach, happened to pretty much everyone.
Speaker 1: You slide back down in the snow like it's feet
Speaker 1: of snow. So you take a step, even if you
Speaker 1: get a good grip, you may then sink about two
Speaker 1: and a half feet and you have to lift yourself
Speaker 1: out of that to take another step forward. So I
Speaker 1: overhear on the radios when we're halfway up, them start
Speaker 1: to make that evacuation call, Like I overhear them being
Speaker 1: like the ranger saying we have to get down, like
Speaker 1: every we need to get down. We need to start
Speaker 1: bringing everyone down. And so I'm looking at one of
Speaker 1: the producers and I'm like, I'm never gonna make I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna make it to the top at this speed.
Speaker 1: And he's like, look, if you don't like, don't quit
Speaker 1: until I tell you to, Like basically, if you keep going,
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep filming you. So I'm like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep going. And then we keep going. So how'd
Speaker 1: you guys get down. So we get down, sliding on
Speaker 1: our butts. We took basically sledding. It was a giant sled,
Speaker 1: but you would sled in increments and you'd have to
Speaker 1: be careful, like because it's so steep. That's the only
Speaker 1: way to get down. So here's the tea, you guys
Speaker 1: want to know, the tea of like what part of
Speaker 1: what happened that day and why technically I could have
Speaker 1: I should have never finished. So I continue going up
Speaker 1: the mountain. And at this point, you're right, Andisa, it's
Speaker 1: a couple producer, sound guy, you know, camera guy. But
Speaker 1: there's also locals there that were there to guide to
Speaker 1: make sure we didn't like walk off the side of
Speaker 1: the mountain. So the locals aren't really talking or interacting
Speaker 1: with us too much, but they're kind of walking alongside us,
Speaker 1: and they're not allowed to help, like interfere with the game.
Speaker 1: But that we don't, yeah, that we don't like take
Speaker 1: a hard left because it was so much No, you
Speaker 1: really kind of couldn't see where you should be stepping,
Speaker 1: to be honest, until you got like toward closer to
Speaker 1: the top. So we're doing that and I'm just like
Speaker 1: kind of I'm taking it set by step, and the
Speaker 1: local kind of starts saying to me when I was like,
Speaker 1: you got this, I know you got this, like you
Speaker 1: could feel I could feel from the producers. I could
Speaker 1: feel like these people that I've never even met, some
Speaker 1: of them, I could feel their energy cheering for me,
Speaker 1: and that means everything to this day, it still means everything.
Speaker 1: Like they'll I don't even know some of their names,
Speaker 1: and they'll never know the impact they had on me
Speaker 1: in that moment. So I continue to keep walking and
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, like, I don't know if I can
Speaker 1: do this, and the producer at this point is actually
Speaker 1: walking ahead of me a little bit and they're kind
Speaker 1: of shooting me from that angle. And then at a
Speaker 1: certain point he's no longer ahead of me. He's he
Speaker 1: like stops moving forward. I keep walking and he's behind me,
Speaker 1: and I find out later it's because I've I've now
Speaker 1: gotten so close to the top right that like he's
Speaker 1: moving like you said, and he's said out of the shot,
Speaker 1: like he's stopping and falling back so that I can
Speaker 1: walk up to the top by myself. If you look
Speaker 1: at the group shot where everyone's hugging. You'll see that
Speaker 1: I'm not in that shot. And the reason why is
Speaker 1: because they had gotten there earlier. They did wait for me,
Speaker 1: but then the evacuation call was made so they had
Speaker 1: to get down, so they started making all of the
Speaker 1: other casts go down, and they were on like kind
Speaker 1: of a different side than I was, so I never
Speaker 1: saw them going down and they didn't see me as
Speaker 1: I was continuing to go up. I also found out
Speaker 1: later that all the producers were being forced off the mountain,
Speaker 1: all camera crew was being forced off the mountain and audio. However,
Speaker 1: two guys, Vinnie and Ludwig. Ludwig the sound guy, Vinnie
Speaker 1: the cameraman, they said, we're not leaving. We know she's
Speaker 1: going to make it, and they stayed at the top
Speaker 1: of the mountain to wait for me to catch that
Speaker 1: shot shot out. It was because they waited and they
Speaker 1: believed in me, And I found that out later. And
Speaker 1: if you look at the shot, you see me standing
Speaker 1: at the edge of the volcano. So for the weird
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists you think podcasting, oh thanks, poo good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: give them some of your notes. If you'll see me
Speaker 1: at the edge of the volcano, because I did actually
Speaker 1: make it to the top, but there's no one else
Speaker 1: around me because they'd all been evacuated otherwise. And then
Speaker 1: you see it zoom out and there's a shot of
Speaker 1: a thumbs up shot, and if you look closely, you
Speaker 1: can see it's like a white wrist and not mine.
Speaker 1: And so that's why I think some of the conspiracy
Speaker 1: theorists are like, she didn't actually finish, morons, I did finish,
Speaker 1: but what happened is they wanted a shot of me
Speaker 1: at a different angle on the volcano, but they couldn't
Speaker 1: get it because they didn't have time get it right.
Speaker 1: Because by the time I made it up, we immediately
Speaker 1: had to get off. It was like a life or
Speaker 1: death hazard, and everyone else had already kind of come
Speaker 1: down the mountain, so we immediately had to get off.
Speaker 1: And it took a while to get off the mountain,
Speaker 1: Like even sliding down probably took thirty forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: because you had to do it in increments. You couldn't
Speaker 1: just go straight down you'd kill yourself. You had to
Speaker 1: come How long did it take you to stop? Took
Speaker 1: my ass hours I don't know, but like four hours,
Speaker 1: four hours and three something like that. Three four hours.
Speaker 1: I think it took the Johnnies about two something hours.
Speaker 1: It took what Zach and Laurel and Nannie around three
Speaker 1: and a half hours, close to four. It took me
Speaker 1: four and something.
Speaker 2: Well, you finished, congrat finished.
Speaker 1: And when I came down, I got a cheer from everyone,
Speaker 1: and that was so meaningful. I also found out that
Speaker 1: they all thought that I would never make it, and
Speaker 1: that's why they were cheering, because they all thought that
Speaker 1: I never would have made it to the top.
Speaker 2: Well, what's crazy is these finishes, these finishing times of.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, they were closed. It was getting up the mountain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Laurel and Nannie were what four seconds
Speaker 2: and then it ended up being nine minutes.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy that Nannie was nine minutes, nine.
Speaker 1: Minutes from winning that epic one and then she still
Speaker 1: hasn't won. Like it's wild and that was her definitely
Speaker 1: has it in her. There's zero zero quit. But Donny
Speaker 1: Riley killed that. By the way. The fact that Johnny
Speaker 1: Riley got up there so fast.
Speaker 2: Like geez, I wanted to know the difference in their
Speaker 2: times didn't show that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, uh, what twenty six minutes or
Speaker 1: something like that. I can't do the math fully twenty
Speaker 1: two minutes. It's wild, but it was an epic, epic time.
Speaker 1: We have become vital. Are we covering the reunion?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you guys can watch that on your own
Speaker 2: for all of the drama and to see what happens
Speaker 2: after the camera stop rolling. There's always some drama and
Speaker 2: some you know, find out what happens with Klara and Laurel,
Speaker 2: and find out about Teresa and Laurel, and you know,
Speaker 2: see how the people are feeling after this.
Speaker 1: And I give a couple points not to be school
Speaker 1: teacher dev but about that epic final in the moment.
Speaker 1: A couple things for all of all of our listeners
Speaker 1: are the challenge fam and Anissa. I know, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you have felt this and know this too for all
Speaker 1: of the challenges you've done, the finals that you've been in.
Speaker 1: But like being in that space and being with a
Speaker 1: bunch of strangers, especially since it was an individual one.
Speaker 1: Like at that point, right, we're like on our own
Speaker 1: and not with teams or what have you. One, you
Speaker 1: never know the impact you being kind or rooting for
Speaker 1: someone else can have on their life. I still don't
Speaker 1: know all those people's names, and to this day, it's
Speaker 1: almost ten years later, it is a kindness I will
Speaker 1: never forget and it meant everything, and certainly I think
Speaker 1: was fuel that helped me get to the top. These
Speaker 1: the locals and these people, even some of the producers,
Speaker 1: because the producers, some of the producers, you guys know
Speaker 1: their names, You've heard us reference them, But there are
Speaker 1: some that don't really interact with us because they're not
Speaker 1: supposed to, so we don't necessarily know them right off
Speaker 1: the bat or know much about them. So that one
Speaker 1: and two. Anytime you're doing anything in your life and
Speaker 1: you feel like I just can't go further, literally, just
Speaker 1: tell yourself, I'm gonna just take one more step. You'll
Speaker 1: be so surprised how far you'll go, and you'll look
Speaker 1: back and realize that that one more step turned into
Speaker 1: twenty more steps, which turned into the next level of
Speaker 1: wherever you want to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, I think there's something about being alone
Speaker 2: and finishing a final that is very different than being
Speaker 2: on a team or being in a pair or whatever.
Speaker 2: Being alone is like the eeriest because of my first
Speaker 2: final was like that, and there's like one crew on you.
Speaker 2: That's like, come on, you can catch her like that
Speaker 2: root for you, even though like maybe they're not supposed to,
Speaker 2: but they can't help it because they've lived with you
Speaker 2: silently or not so silent, right for months of a time,
Speaker 2: and they there's an attachment. If you're a nice person, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's an attachment. And people do root for you, and
Speaker 2: that is a wonderful feeling because they're not there. It's
Speaker 2: like they're kind of not supposed to, but they do anyway.
Speaker 1: They don't have to, but they do.
Speaker 2: Right and showing that they're human too. Like it's just
Speaker 2: such a nice it's just such a nice thing. And
Speaker 2: for the people like, oh, well you were last or
Speaker 2: oh it is like being alone and moving for that
Speaker 2: much time by yourself, you're the only person that can
Speaker 2: really like motivate you. And it's one of the hardest
Speaker 2: things you can do. There's no other way to explain it.
Speaker 2: I don't know how I just to explain it. It's
Speaker 2: just like it's kind of eerie how alone it is.
Speaker 1: It is because you're in your head, you're in your thoughts,
Speaker 1: you're in and it's literally especially when you're doing something
Speaker 1: that is the toughest thing you have done to date
Speaker 1: in that particular instance, I mean it was that was
Speaker 1: the hardest thing I've ever physically done and hopefully we'll
Speaker 1: do and yet it was so profound and life changing
Speaker 1: in so many ways. And I still get messages from
Speaker 1: people to this day years later being like, I watched
Speaker 1: that and because because you were able to finish, which
Speaker 1: is why I think it's important to have underdogs, by
Speaker 1: the way, and why I think they like play such
Speaker 1: a big role, because it's the relatable thing, Like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I knew I wasn't coming out first place. If I
Speaker 1: wanted that, I should have started going to the gym
Speaker 1: seventeen years ago that was gonna happen. But trying to
Speaker 1: even just finish, you know, if I can do it,
Speaker 1: you can do it. Anyone can do it, and so
Speaker 1: I think that's really powerful. What are your final thoughts
Speaker 1: on this season as a whole, now that you've watched
Speaker 1: it in its entirety MESA. I mean I hated the season,
Speaker 1: wait watching it or competing in it, or both competing
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 2: This was not my favorite season. The party aspect of
Speaker 2: it was. Yes, there were some people on the show
Speaker 2: that I absolutely adored and had a great time with
Speaker 2: game Wise, and say like it was stressful. It was,
Speaker 2: and I felt like, you know, if I were there longer,
Speaker 2: I would have been voted in more often than not.
Speaker 1: They would have come after you because they saw you
Speaker 1: as a threat for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And and I think after being on Rivals too, and
Speaker 2: that being I gave everything and us losing right before
Speaker 2: the final, coming off of that and then going in
Speaker 2: like you know, they all kind of like it all
Speaker 2: has an effect on you. But overall, if I if
Speaker 2: I could take myself out of it, the concept of
Speaker 2: the show I thought was awesome. The feuds were great,
Speaker 2: the romance or whatever you want to call it was great.
Speaker 2: The amount of how catastrophic things could be and then
Speaker 2: the next day next day are meaningless. The amount of parties,
Speaker 2: funerals and whatever else, like, it just takes me back
Speaker 2: to a time and I'm just hopeful that we can
Speaker 2: get a sprinkle of that on the show soon. But
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't know. It's now, it's
Speaker 2: now the Olympics of Challenge. Yeah, so it's a little
Speaker 2: different now, but I think at its core it tries
Speaker 2: to be the same thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just elevate. I think it can be that, you
Speaker 1: know what I think, with the right mix and like
Speaker 1: when you're back in that like, I think it can
Speaker 1: be that. And I love that we have All Stars
Speaker 1: because all Stars seems to be that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like lean way more into.
Speaker 2: Right because now we're old enough, like honey, that ship
Speaker 2: has sailed. We didn't like each other back then. I
Speaker 2: don't like you now there, but I'll live with you
Speaker 2: because it's just it is what it is. But don't
Speaker 2: come for me like it right. It's like I'm a
Speaker 2: grown ass woman. I'm not I'm not gonna go on Twitter. Okay,
Speaker 2: your your beef is safe with me right here, weekend,
Speaker 2: but it it is that thing. And yes, let's keep
Speaker 2: the All Stars coming. And it's crazy that now we're
Speaker 2: you know, we just got done. We're like fifty thirteen
Speaker 2: seasons ahead of this one right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that is why I say, go, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: It's so there was a point where I thought we
Speaker 2: were gonna get canceled, like when we thought they would
Speaker 2: like buy some and we were all like sitting on
Speaker 2: the edge of our seats like, oh my god, are
Speaker 2: we going to get renewed so we can actually be
Speaker 2: on the challenge again.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and look at where we are now, coming
Speaker 1: up on SEC. It's going to be so great. My
Speaker 1: final thought is just that this was such a gift,
Speaker 1: a gift. I feel so special and privileged to be
Speaker 1: able to have had to have met people like you
Speaker 1: and and all the people in the house and of
Speaker 1: so many you know, it was small, Okay, it was small.
Speaker 1: Go again, it's okay. I pay for those slates. It
Speaker 1: was they were expensive, I can't. But yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a small gathering. It was so special to see though,
Speaker 1: and uh, and it was again. It's a part of
Speaker 1: the challenge will forever live within me because it has
Speaker 1: contributed to the woman I am today. So I am
Speaker 1: it was the thing I never knew that I needed
Speaker 1: but will forever be grateful for. And I'd like to
Speaker 1: dedicate this episode, this final episode, of course, too, to
Speaker 1: Marror the Wig for all the service that she's done.
Speaker 1: She's gone but not forgotten.
Speaker 2: Shout out to all the girls who are still rocking
Speaker 2: synthetic wigs.
Speaker 1: It's okay, yeah, just don't get it next to a
Speaker 1: flame heat source, yeah, or an open flame. Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. Don't go anywhere. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after this. Anissa, now that free Agents is over,
Speaker 1: where can the people follow you on social media? Oh?
Speaker 2: You can find me at Anissa MTV on Instagram.
Speaker 1: And I'm on threads. Find me there.
Speaker 2: They're kind of attached my bio because I can't log
Speaker 2: into Twitter and I never wanted to see it anyway,
Speaker 2: So I'm on threads.
Speaker 1: Find me. Oh, get it on and popping.
Speaker 2: I bet you have threads too, now I do, but
Speaker 2: I don't maintain so many socials.
Speaker 1: I'm overwhelmed.
Speaker 2: But it's too I kind of like the pettiness of it.
Speaker 1: That's fair, And you can like be different personalities on
Speaker 1: different platforms, which is like like what highlight different?
Speaker 2: Only you would think that, but like I am just
Speaker 2: I'm just petty, like, well, I'm just gonna side with
Speaker 2: this person for now in their platform.
Speaker 1: Oh that's fair. No, my loyalty is to threads for
Speaker 1: reasons if people can figure out. But I still look
Speaker 1: and listen and sort of utilize both. But you can
Speaker 1: and find me. You can go to my website devinsimone
Speaker 1: dot com Devin with y Smoth and I Instagram, I'm
Speaker 1: most popular there. Still a lot of wedding content right now.
Speaker 1: It'll fade out eventually, I promise, but it's still bear
Speaker 1: with us.
Speaker 2: It's there, not on the most popular there.
Speaker 1: I mean most active there, and then I'm on thread
Speaker 1: Devin's as well Twitter Reddit. I do be lurking. Appreciate
Speaker 1: the love, the wedding love that was in the reddit threads.
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