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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Here we come. Welcome to money Making Conversation.

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Speaker 1: As you know, I'm your host from Sean McDonald. It's

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Speaker 1: time to stop reading other people's success stories. I say

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Speaker 1: You need to write your own story. Put time into

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Speaker 1: I bring interviews on my show, Money Making Conversations celebrities,

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Speaker 1: My next guest is a Mari Startermira the six time

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Speaker 1: Omar is the first and only black kosher winemaker. A

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Speaker 1: Mars owned star Starter. Mira Farms, an organic, family run

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Speaker 1: Amar wants to raise awareness about struggling black farmers and

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Speaker 1: teach the next generation a three sixty degree view of wellness,

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Speaker 1: which includes not only exercising food, but financial wellness and

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Speaker 1: community service. A. Mari is also currently pursuing his master's

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Speaker 1: degree in business from the University Mary. I Am. That's

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Speaker 1: to you, y'all. Do you please work with the Money

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations. Happy to have one more show Amri out

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Speaker 1: of mind, man, Thanks for having me. How you doing, sir,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling good, brother, feeling good. No, you know, Maria,

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Speaker 1: I would tell you something. I'm a big NBA fans,

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Speaker 1: And talk about that portion of feeling invincible, feeing all

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Speaker 1: world because you were all world. Talk about that whole

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Speaker 1: but just talk about when you're the top of your

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Speaker 1: game athletically. You know what, when you're when you're playing

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Speaker 1: So when you're in that space, man, you feel like

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Speaker 1: And so the energy along kind of cords in with

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Speaker 1: for me it was basketball playing, going to the you know,

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Speaker 1: All these were incredible accolades that I felt amazing during

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Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to put your on this, but

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Speaker 1: Not important for us to reconnect with that and to

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