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Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, you're in

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Speaker 1: the right place. Caught over the metal. Michael Pittman Junior.

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Speaker 2: Top petert in the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: Let's get the podcast started.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the Official Colts Podcast. My name is Jeffrey Gorman.

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Speaker 3: Joined today by the voice of the Colts and the

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Speaker 3: face of the Colts. I'd like to say a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, if I turn on the internet there

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Speaker 3: in the middle of YouTube. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: You're the glue.

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Speaker 1: You're the glue.

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Speaker 3: All right. I appreciate you guys. By the way, yeah,

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Speaker 3: right right, good doing good. Here, you guys look great.

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Speaker 3: Latte Larra's here and by the way, good Son. I'm

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Speaker 3: I may tell you got a way too. You went

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Speaker 3: All right. We got a big week coming up, obviously

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Speaker 3: thanks to Connor behind the camera there. We're gonna get

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Speaker 3: so I want to start there. We got a lot

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Speaker 3: show today I've done it before, but I really wanted

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Speaker 2: You and Donnie Osmond.

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Speaker 3: I love it. But where we are we're gonna play.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna play a little.

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Speaker 2: Draft Jacks retiring, So I mean.

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Speaker 3: want to start here, La te Lera. Where are you?

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Speaker 3: Give me your day? When does it? It's a late day,

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Speaker 3: it's on Thursday. Tell me what your responsibilities are. You're

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Speaker 2: Goes, right, because you started eight that Thursday is a

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Speaker 3: Mayte you're hustling that day, you know that day as well, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing draft radio coverage.

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Speaker 2: It's great too because it's almost impossible to be like

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Speaker 2: Watch a little playoff basketball Pluslts cover.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's a Colts talk show with

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Speaker 3: Die hard or not, I'm telling you what, You're gonna

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Speaker 3: the importance of this thing. Of the sixty four players

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Speaker 3: The importance is right in this building, in this upcoming draft.

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Speaker 1: That first selection, that's right, I'd be very surprised. I

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Speaker 3: Okay, well you said something there. Now I mean a

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Speaker 1: And protected myself on that one, didn't I.

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Speaker 2: No, no, not, I just I mean I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think that's fair.

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Speaker 2: So that's part of why I don't know. You want

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Speaker 1: But for that guy to not if he don't go

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Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough, because you never know, because there's other

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Speaker 1: That's protection, right, and you got all five offensive linemen

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Speaker 3: Be if an offensive tackle comes off the board at fifteen.

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Speaker 3: I would now on talking it out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: On the couch. Yah, lay down, we'll talk about.

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Speaker 3: You're right, You're right, I'm picking you up.

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Speaker 1: Help him settle in?

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Speaker 3: Totally for sure. Okay, let's keep moving. I love this.

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Speaker 3: Please don't I meant flash cards? So I do have

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Speaker 3: right really quick? All right, here's a draft thermometer, cornerback,

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Speaker 1: Let me help you out here with the with the van.

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Speaker 1: You can? Yeah, you can go all hot.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start with l O on this one. Okay.

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Speaker 3: The heat meter is as followers, sizzling, hot, room temperature,

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's hot.

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Speaker 3: Let me see it.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. We're going gift. We're going gift for

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Speaker 1: I don't know who that is, Robert.

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Speaker 1: It's what's your vector, Victor? Yeah there, Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 3: We're calling it hot.

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Speaker 1: give me ye sweating bullets. Yeah, just like we talked

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Speaker 3: All right, Lara, we're going to the wide receiver position

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Speaker 3: the temperature of that gun goes. If you need a reminder, Lara,

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Speaker 3: it is sizzling. It is sizzling, it is hot, it

437
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 3: is room temperature, and it's chili wide receiver.

438
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go hot with this as well. I'm playing

439
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,479
Speaker 2: to hot. See back to hot.

440
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

441
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 2: You you've proven, you know with what you have with

442
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,000
Speaker 2: with Pittman and downs, and you know you have some

443
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 2: emergence from Alex Pearce, who's looking to find more consistency

444
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 2: in this offense. I think you do need a few

445
00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 2: more past catching weapons for anthony or staying hot.

446
00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:36,920
Speaker 3: Mate. What do you got?

447
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 1: Actually, I'm gonna take it up. Let's go like I

448
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 1: like my steak a little bit more. Well, got sometimes

449
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 1: a little dip and ranch. Okay, that's a that's a

450
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 1: topic for a different podcast. Okay, but I'm going sizzle.

451
00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 1: This is my sizzle meter here with little Sere on

452
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 1: the steak, right. And I say that even though the

453
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,919
Speaker 1: Cults have re signed Michael Pittman Jr. And you've got

454
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 1: Josh Downs coming back and Alec Pierce and Anthony Richardson coming,

455
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 1: I think within the offense, the biggest storylines or whatever

456
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,960
Speaker 1: you want to call it, that the two biggest things

457
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 1: that I'm looking for on offense this offseason is how

458
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 1: does Anthony Richardson settle back in, How does he come

459
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 1: back healthy? How does he prove himself again to be

460
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 1: I think an above average pocket passing quarterback in terms

461
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,159
Speaker 1: of the accuracy because we saw that last year the

462
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 1: arrow was up on that last year. Second is, and

463
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 1: I think probably the most important is can this offense

464
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,640
Speaker 1: lighten the box with the personnel that they have next

465
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 1: season to help Anthony Richardson Jonathan Taylor in the running

466
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 1: game and for the passing game to be more explosive

467
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: on the outside and outside the numbers. I think it's

468
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Speaker 1: imperative for the Colts to bring in talent in this

469
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,120
Speaker 1: draft that can win outside the numbers. Michael Pittman Junior

470
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 1: can do that, but I think he's gonna make his money.

471
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna make his hay in the middle of the

472
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 1: field between the numbers. I think the Colts have to

473
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 1: bring in somebody that can stretch the field outside and

474
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: vertically for this offense to really hum under.

475
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 3: Anthony Lara May tastes cooking steaks in the wide receiver room.

476
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: What say you?

477
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: She just went hot, You just went hot on you

478
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 3: just went to I'm sorry, I doubled, going back to

479
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 3: the ed rusher. Sorry, we're good, going back to the

480
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 3: edge rusher. Temperature draft. Joyce comes up. It's an ed rusher.

481
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Speaker 2: Okay, it's room temp for me. Room temp.

482
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Speaker 1: There you go, seventy six. Yeah, I printed this off.

483
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm like this, this is somebody cold blooded. This is

484
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Speaker 1: my gosh.

485
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 2: We just had a hole. We just had a whole

486
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 2: perfectly like marital back and forth when we were on

487
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Speaker 2: vacation because I cranked it down to sixty five. I'm

488
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Speaker 2: with you cold and Dan is like I Dan was like,

489
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Speaker 2: I don't want to get out of bed because it's

490
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Speaker 2: too cold.

491
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Speaker 3: And by the way, temperature state at sixty five.

492
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Speaker 2: No, we like in the middle like, oh.

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your thermometer? Said, I'm a sixty eight guys

494
00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: room temp for me.

495
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the reason being you didn't get as much edge

496
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: pressure last year as you would have liked. Obviously, Samson

497
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: Ebacom had a great season. I think that, you know,

498
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: and you did set the franchise sack record for a

499
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: single season and all of that. I do think that

500
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: from the guys who you have, you need to see

501
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 2: more from that group. And I do think that the

502
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 2: addition of Charlie Partridge is going to take that group

503
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Speaker 2: to another level with what he has been able to

504
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Speaker 2: do in his proven track record working with defensive lines.

505
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Speaker 2: So part of me feels that, yeah, if you reinforce

506
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: that group with talent, that's great.

507
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Speaker 3: Shore.

508
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 2: You know, you add some guys in there, but I

509
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 2: think even with the same rotation of guys you have

510
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: on that front, they will be elevated in terms of

511
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 2: their ability to get to the quarterback this season because

512
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 2: of the addition of a guy who's not even stepping

513
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 2: on the field, but the guidance of that group solely

514
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 2: and surely.

515
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Speaker 3: And Meyte, while we're here on this edge rusher. It's

516
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Speaker 3: a big difference. Hold on a minute.

517
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Speaker 1: This is Robert Hayes.

518
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Speaker 3: I anders Robert. Hold on it, you get an edge robbery.

519
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: Also, the track is named after it Indiana University. Ert. No,

520
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: that's not it's wrong.

521
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Speaker 3: Probably Robert I got that, say the guy from Billy Hayes.

522
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Speaker 2: Billy Hayes ert ted strikers like the combine.

523
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Speaker 3: Them ted striker. That's a good one. Boyeah, you got

524
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Speaker 3: me thrown off on this. Sorry edge rusher to you?

525
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Speaker 1: Is?

526
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a tough question because if you're sitting

527
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Speaker 3: at fifteen and there's a premiere edge rusher there, or

528
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 3: Matt you're sitting in the middle of the fourth and

529
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 3: there's an edge rusher there. You know what I'm saying.

530
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: So it's like, I understand you want depth and everything,

531
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: but if you're talking about two different players, a first

532
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: and a fourth rounder.

533
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Speaker 1: I'm with Learra. It's probably room temperature for me.

534
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 3: But bring that seventy six down.

535
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Speaker 1: Yeah you got it. Yeah, that's that's a little ball

536
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: me inside, a little bit bull me. Yeah. I agree

537
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: for all the same reasons. I mean, we forget last year.

538
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean the Colts set a franchise records for sacks

539
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: in a single season in the Indianapolis Colts era dating

540
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: back to nineteen eighty four. But I will agree that

541
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Speaker 1: there is room for improvement. Obviously, the Colts felt it

542
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: a need enough to make a switch at that defensive

543
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: line position. Coach, you know, Charlie Partridge is in here,

544
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: and they think that he can obviously get more out

545
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: of that group collectively. I think Rake one Davis is

546
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 1: going to help the run win DeForest Buckner and Grover

547
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: Stewart or out of the game so that there's still

548
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: you know, enough attention inside to let the guys on

549
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: the outside feast. But again, you know, Quitty pay is

550
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: coming off or coming into an option season and if

551
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: he if that option is not picked up, that he

552
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: would be a free agent next offseason. Same thing with

553
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: dio A Dangbo. So you're gonna have decisions to make there.

554
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: And it's like offensive line, you can never have enough

555
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: depth and enough just enough just punches along the defensive line.

556
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: So if you feel like at picked fifteen or maybe

557
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: at pick forty six, a guy that you can mold

558
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: and maybe one day turns into a double digit SAT guy,

559
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: or is flirting with eight to nine sacks by year two,

560
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: year three, then I don't have if you're convicted about

561
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 1: that position. The roster is so well put together right

562
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: now with previous drafts, in house free agents that I

563
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: don't think you can go wrong because you're going to

564
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: be supplementing an at adding depth to key positions, regardless

565
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: of where the Colts pick at the top this draft.

566
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Speaker 3: Larra offensive line. Where's the heat meter on that one?

567
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: That's going to room temp for me as well, I'm

568
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: going to go back with the same and you know,

569
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: very consistent here at this point. It's not necessarily an

570
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: urgent need. But I do think that you have some

571
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: areas where you can increase competition, you know, along your

572
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: offensive line, and that's something that you're always seeking to

573
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: do within any off season, whether it's draft, free agency,

574
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 2: all of those things. So not a drastic area of

575
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 2: need like what you had, you know a few years ago,

576
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: when you had not established consistency of the left tackle position.

577
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: Obviously you have done that with Bernard Rayman Ryman's So yeah,

578
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: I think room temp. But again, you know, if you

579
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: can add some value and you can add some competition

580
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: and some talent, across the offensive line.

581
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna happen.

582
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: Plenty of opportunities.

583
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: There's an edge that's going to be Addresser's draft, and

584
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 3: there's an offensive lineman that.

585
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: The Colts have drafted an offensive lineman every year since

586
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and two. Sure, obviously that that way predates

587
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, but and he said it on Friday again.

588
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: I go back to what he said, there's there's quality

589
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: offensive line depth. Offensive line and receiver are the two

590
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: deepest positions in this draft, according to Chris all the experts.

591
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: So the Colts are going to bring in offensive line

592
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: talent to to add depth somewhere because he said we can.

593
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: We can get in on day two, we can get

594
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: on Day three, whether that's the fourth round, the sixth round.

595
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a guy that's gonna be in our

596
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: rotation next year in this draft.

597
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: How about that, Lara go to a running back. Let's see,

598
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 3: what do you think?

599
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: That one's chilly for me? I mean, you know you've

600
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 2: invested already a lot.

601
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Speaker 1: First, Chili, huh yeah, First, that's Chili. That's Lara. That's

602
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: Lay on January fifteenth, watching playoff football right.

603
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: There, Cincinnati here's what that was.

604
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: For sure.

605
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: I had a little handwarmers, right, Yeah, it's chilli. You've obviously,

606
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 2: you know you have Jonathan Taylor evan hole. You're intrigued

607
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: with what he can do. Obviously he missed all of

608
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 2: last year due to injury. Exciting position to see what

609
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: addition he can make, what versatility potentially he can add

610
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 2: to that group. You have some guys obviously who are

611
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: already in the building behind Taylor. You've seen what they

612
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: give you, so not out of the question that maybe

613
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 2: day three that something kind of falls in your lap

614
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: for that position. But certainly I think to me, that's,

615
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: you know, the least on the temperature scale position.

616
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: I get that. I'm actually going to go a little

617
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: bit different. I'm going to say hot. Wow, I'm going

618
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: to say hot. Just because you lost Ack Moss and

619
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: free agency, that a not we know what he meant

620
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: to the you know, the consistency of the running game

621
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: when Jonathan Taylor was out of the lineup for a

622
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: variety of reasons last year. I just don't know. I

623
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: think someone will probably emerge. I mean, if you had

624
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: to play a game today, obviously, Jonathan Taylor's your bell cow.

625
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: I liked what Tray Sermon gave you last year. I'm

626
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: really high on Portray and his opportunity to potentially be

627
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: that number two guy and step into a bit of

628
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 2: He's not exactly a Zach Moss, but kind of a Zach.

629
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: Moss though I could be though this young like that,

630
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: and it's a big bodied guy.

631
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: And I think that Pittsburgh game last year proved that,

632
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean, just such a tip of the cap in

633
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: terms of the maturity and the professionalism of both Tyler

634
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: Goodson and Trey Sermon in that game, the way they

635
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: stepped up and the offense didn't miss a beat. I

636
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: don't know. Again, I think someone would probably emerge because

637
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: I think both those guys are made up of the

638
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: right stuff. I mean, I just don't know. Again, if

639
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: you played the game today, who your back up, three

640
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: down back would be. And we forget to Evan Holtz

641
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: coming off an injury torres meniscus week one, didn't see

642
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: him the rest of the season. Obviously. The book on

643
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: him coming out of college at Northwestern was that he

644
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: was a great pass catching back. But I just always

645
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: think too in general, I think it's always good practice

646
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: to draft a running back every year, and in some

647
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: years it might be fifth, sixth, seventh round. I think

648
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: it's always good practice to continue to add to that position,

649
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: put another horse in the stable there because of the

650
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: the nature of the position that they play and the

651
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: contract and the value you can get from a rookie

652
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Speaker 1: or a guy on a rookie contract playing that position.

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Speaker 1: I always think that's a good idea to draft a

654
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Speaker 1: running back every year.

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Speaker 2: Also, one one thing with the departure of Zach Moss.

656
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Speaker 2: Obviously that's been a while back, but every time we

657
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Speaker 2: would talk about Zach Moster's that outcast lyric about Randy

658
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Speaker 2: Moss that would like pop in my head and I'm

659
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Speaker 2: really gonna miss like referring to that there I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: I mean, please drafting too.

661
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Speaker 2: But I did have to look up look it up

662
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Speaker 2: for sure, But it's like a catch a beat running

663
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Speaker 2: like Randy Moss. But I would always a man good

664
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Speaker 2: exact Moss, like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just drop Zack in and you want to

666
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Speaker 3: do the karaoke version of absolutely no you can find

667
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Speaker 3: no no question.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it. But it is the

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Speaker 2: whole world if you want to look it up and

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Speaker 2: play it yourself excellent.

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Speaker 3: Zach Mawson for Randy Moss, mayte here, it's up to you.

672
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Speaker 3: It's up to you.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing right now?

674
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this thing right now? You want to

675
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Speaker 3: call your shot? You want to tell me a position

676
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: group that they're gonna go over at fifteen? Do they

677
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: stay at fifteen? Is he grabbing a wide receiver? Is

678
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: there a tight end over there? Is there a defensive

679
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: lineman and all of a sudden surfaces that's available. May

680
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: tell if you want to I know you're covering this draft.

681
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: If you want to quarter, yeah, there's where I can go.

682
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: That's the position where I know I can bust out

683
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Speaker 1: the freezing. That's where I know we're not going to

684
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Speaker 1: wrack a quarterback, at least not on Thursday or Friday.

685
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Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. I'll just keep it real general.

686
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Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, with the fifteenth overall pick

687
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Speaker 1: or like you said, the Colts first selection, whether that's

688
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Speaker 1: a trade up or trade down in the first round,

689
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Speaker 1: I do problem. My gut says it's gonna be someone

690
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Speaker 1: in the secondary, probably a corner, right, and the general

691
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Speaker 1: consensus is that the two best corners might be still

692
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Speaker 1: around in the neighborhood of fifteen, you know, early teens,

693
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Speaker 1: or maybe if the Colts trade back to late teens twenties.

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Speaker 1: You know, you always hear about Quinnon Mitchell out of Toledo,

695
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Speaker 1: terry On Arnold outstanding cornerback out of Alabama. If it's

696
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Speaker 1: either of those two guys, wouldn't be shocked at all,

697
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Speaker 1: just because again, this is draft in one, one on one,

698
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: the general consensus is is that there's three guys at

699
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Speaker 1: the top of the draft that played the wide receiver

700
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Speaker 1: position that are probably gonna be gone. And then not

701
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Speaker 1: that there's a big drop off, but there is a

702
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Speaker 1: drop off between those three guys and then the next bunch,

703
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Speaker 1: if you will. And we can debate how big that

704
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Speaker 1: next bunch is, but I still think you're gonna get heck,

705
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Speaker 1: eighty eighty five percent of those top three guys later

706
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Speaker 1: on in the second round. If the Colts wait, and

707
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Speaker 1: knowing too that the drop off between the top corners

708
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Speaker 1: and the next bunch is is steeper. It's it's a

709
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Speaker 1: bigger gap compared to the receiver.

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Speaker 3: Interesting stuff Interesting because, uh, the interest is is you

711
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 3: talked about those three receivers, well, I'm gonna throw four

712
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: quarterbacks in there, or is it five or what? Who's

713
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: My point? Is this the shaking and shifting so much

714
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: this board and it comes up at fifteen, and if

715
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: there's premier players there we're talking about, we've went over

716
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: the gamut of this. Cornerbacks, wide receivers available at fifteen

717
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: because of the need of other teams, and all of

718
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: a sudden you see a guy like, Wow, Michael Pennox

719
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Speaker 3: went ten. Overall, It's like nobody saw that. Not saying

720
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Speaker 3: that's gonna happen, right, just saying the outside.

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Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right, and just to play Devil's

722
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: advocate too. The Colts have traded back or out of

723
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Speaker 1: the first round under Chris Ballard four times. They've never

724
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Speaker 1: traded up. Okay, but also keep in mind they've got

725
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Speaker 1: their quarterback. Twenty two starters are coming back. All right. Now,

726
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start talking like I'm on dateline here, Okay,

727
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: Like it's just really regular neighborhood.

728
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Speaker 2: Keith Morrison is Matthew Perry's stepfather.

729
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Speaker 3: I did not know that normal just Saturday morning in

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Speaker 3: the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: To finish my point is is that might this might

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Speaker 1: this be the year where Chris Ballard said, is again

733
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Speaker 1: what's separating us from winning the division and taking that

734
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Speaker 1: next step? Difference man and big time difference maker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Colt owner Jim Ersay out there putting it in.

736
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Speaker 3: Talk to Chap. We'll talk to Stephen Holder from ESPN.

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Speaker 3: But with Chap, he said, hey, you know you want

738
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Speaker 3: a premiere guy, go after what you know, a wide

739
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Speaker 3: receiver number one, who's he's calling Marvin Harrison Junior and stuff.

740
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Speaker 3: But he's like, you never know, but it couldn't be

741
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Speaker 3: off the table, but it's gonna take a lot and stuff.

742
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Speaker 3: I mean, you see those little those those crumb around

743
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Speaker 3: draft something to keep an eye on. L O. I

744
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: would ask you the same question, what are they gonna do?

745
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: Take your shot? But I'm not gonna do that because

746
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Speaker 3: why you're behind the curtain and with that what I

747
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Speaker 3: mean is behind the Colts obviously one of the documentary

748
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Speaker 3: style that's awesome that you guys win awards fight. We've

749
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Speaker 3: got two episodes now, number one, give me a quick

750
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Speaker 3: recap of the second episode and what we're going to

751
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Speaker 3: look forward to and the footage that you'll get with

752
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Speaker 3: this upcoming draft episode.

753
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Speaker 2: Two released on Tuesday night, and the title of that

754
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: episode is all the Smoke, and it's pretty fitting for like,

755
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Speaker 2: that's kind of what.

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Speaker 1: It's nine minutes of just I'm on edgr scene plus

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Speaker 1: learn Team plus thirteen plus thirteen. It was it was

758
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Speaker 1: so good I lost record time.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen plus minutes. And you know, one of the things

760
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Speaker 2: that whether it's been you know, Behind the Colts or

761
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: with the Next Pick or all of the different series

762
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Speaker 2: that our entire team you know, led by Dave Knickerbocker

763
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Speaker 2: and Matt Matt Wilkinson, controls most of the you know,

764
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Speaker 2: the editing and all behind the scenes of putting that together.

765
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Speaker 2: But it's every single person within content and production, but

766
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Speaker 2: always trying to evolve it and show something different, right,

767
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Speaker 2: because you can only show so much right that's being

768
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Speaker 2: gathered because there is a there are some things that

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Speaker 2: are confidential that you have to protect, especially until after

770
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Speaker 2: the draft. But then we can flash back to maybe

771
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Speaker 2: some conversations about a guy that you take really dove

772
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Speaker 2: into what this process of April is like and getting

773
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Speaker 2: to know those key personalities and some of the like

774
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Speaker 2: quirkiness and what makes this group of scouts with the

775
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Speaker 2: leadership of Chris Ballad and Ed Dodd's function so very well,

776
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Speaker 2: and some of the you know, contentious might be a

777
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Speaker 2: little bit strong, but there are some like tough conversations

778
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Speaker 2: that have to be had, and we really are able

779
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Speaker 2: to show you those and what's behind those and why

780
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Speaker 2: having this group together for as long as they've been

781
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: together makes such a difference when you're at a critical

782
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Speaker 2: period of evaluating players. And there's an interesting breakdown that

783
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Speaker 2: Todd Vasvari, who is one of the most senior scouts

784
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Speaker 2: within this organization, his thirtieth draft, like, shout out to Todd,

785
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Speaker 2: Shout out to Todd, like he's unbelievable, and he talks

786
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Speaker 2: about these different comparisons which and I could watch this,

787
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Speaker 2: but definitely watch the episode. Todd explains that much more

788
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: eloquently than I do. But okay, who is he like,

789
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: that's a comparison to a player who is in the

790
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Speaker 2: league or who has been in the league.

791
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Speaker 1: Right, who is he who's competing with? Who is he

792
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: on our team?

793
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: Right? Right? Who on our team? And then who is

794
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: he better than? Which is who comparing him to who's

795
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: within this draft? So there are it's really some interesting

796
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: dynamics that you get to see one. I was actually

797
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 2: told that there has been more buzz about this episode

798
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: in certain circles than any other that we have produced.

799
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Speaker 2: So it was really really fun. Shout out to Chris

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Speaker 2: and Ed for allowing us the access. Also our scouts, Todd,

801
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: Mike Lazy, Anthony Coughlin for allowing us to I.

802
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: Want to go party at their house Todd's office right,

803
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: although they're probably just watching film.

804
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: You know exactly, you know. So it was really really

805
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: fun and I love doing this and providing that different look.

806
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Speaker 2: And then we'll have another episode that recaps the entire

807
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Speaker 2: draft coming out for you later next.

808
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Speaker 3: Amazing, really great award winning work. Hats off to you

809
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Speaker 3: and the crew that does it. Mayte you and I,

810
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 3: you know, we just sit on the microphones and watch

811
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Speaker 3: these things happen. And if you want to get in

812
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: side of like all football fans doing NFL and get

813
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: behind the curtain. Like I said, and it's cliche, but

814
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Speaker 3: that is it because of the availability that Chris Ballard

815
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Speaker 3: and Company has opened up for you. Well done, well

816
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Speaker 3: done on that. Well I'm gonna give it all the credit.

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Speaker 3: Inside Football remember this coming up on the Colts Audio

818
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: radio network. Inside Football with coach Rick Venturi comes out

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Speaker 3: on Wednesday with Rick's top positions of need and the

820
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Speaker 3: biggest offseason questions he wants answered during the draft. On

821
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Speaker 3: the final Inside the Draft podcast that's coming out on

822
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Speaker 3: Thursday with Jeff Diamond, our buddy gonna talk about that

823
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Speaker 3: former GM of the Vikings and the Titans. We're gonna

824
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Speaker 3: have live draft coverage on Thursday and Friday nights again,

825
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Speaker 3: starting at seven pm in our flagship stations in Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: and also streaming on Colts dot Com and the Coach

827
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Speaker 3: Mobile app. And we're gonna have instant reaction and overtime

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Speaker 3: podcast after each day of this draft weekend on the

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Speaker 3: Colts Audio Network at Well, it's all there. All you

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Speaker 3: got to do is find him at may Te Colts

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Speaker 3: at Lera Overton. I got that right, We did right

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Speaker 3: on twelve runs. But hey, great stuff today. Thank you

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00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: for all your help you do production wise, Llo, thank you.

834
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Speaker 3: I know it's a busy week, Matt. You're gonna be

835
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Speaker 3: out at Top Golf. Ll O, you're gonna be here, obviously,

836
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Speaker 3: we're gonna holding down the Fort bus. Friday's gonna be

837
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Speaker 3: a big day. You're gonna be awful busy. The number

838
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: one draft choice will be in the building, maybe ninety

839
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Speaker 3: nine percent sure unless he's you know, on a family

840
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Speaker 3: vacation and Beijing.

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Speaker 2: That would be something. Yeah, but either you know, whether

842
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: we've had situations where the guys have been at the draft.

843
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: We've had situations where guys have been also with their family,

844
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Speaker 2: Like Quitty pay was in Denver watching with his family,

845
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Speaker 2: but still still came in the building on Friday. So

846
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Speaker 2: it's just a little little later arrival. Hey, you never know,

847
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Speaker 2: we got good luck with getting guys in.

848
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Speaker 3: Could be the next Hall of Famer in wearing a

849
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 3: horseshoe on their helmet, could be going in this draft.

850
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Speaker 3: You never know. Anyway, Connor, thanks a lot, big help

851
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Speaker 3: on the production. Angle can't wait. This is a huge

852
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: week for us. Mayte, I know you're especially busy. You're

853
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: gonna be out of top golf on that thing. Lara,

854
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: you're gonna be here, So hey, I appreciate you guys

855
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 3: sitting down. Let's talking about this thing, but most importantly,

856
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: let's have fun and watch his team grow and watch

857
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: Chris Ballard do his thing. And of course, as Anthony

858
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 3: Richardson goes, so does Colts team and I just can't

859
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Speaker 3: wait to find out what pieces are going to added

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Speaker 3: in from there. So thanks for your time. We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to you next week and go Colts. As always,

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Speaker 3: m Wing becomes to be st