Speaker 1: A competitor is someone who is internally motivated to be
Speaker 1: his best regardless, regardless of the situation. His place on
Speaker 1: the death chart does not matter. Money does not matter,
Speaker 1: fame does not matter. He is always trying to absolutely
Speaker 1: be his best. He can't be swayed because he's already
Speaker 1: maxing out his potential.
Speaker 2: This dude is trying.
Speaker 1: To pr every day of life. He's got a championship mindset.
Speaker 1: And when you have a championship mindset, you embarrass the
Speaker 1: see ones and you make the great ones look normal.
Speaker 1: Final one is a commander. He basically has all the
Speaker 1: traits of a competitor, with one exception. He brings people
Speaker 1: with them.
Speaker 2: Which one are you of the Chris Westling podcast studio.
Speaker 2: It's the Hard.
Speaker 3: Knocks Podcast Training Camp of the New York Jets, Episode
Speaker 3: three recap. My name is Dan hansis with me my
Speaker 3: co host Colleen Wolfe, kylil As.
Speaker 2: Bob Salas said, head coach of the New York Jets.
Speaker 3: Four levels of competitors, And I know it's a little
Speaker 3: confusing because one of the levels of competitors is competitor.
Speaker 4: That one I have a little bit of an issue with.
Speaker 4: But that's fine, so I'd say we're both commanders.
Speaker 3: So let's go yeah, because I was gonna say I
Speaker 3: would love to say we are because I feel like commander, competitor, contender, survivor.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've been all of those.
Speaker 3: Yes, maybe sometimes in the same day, uh huh. Like,
Speaker 3: for instance, survivor is the is the bottom, and the
Speaker 3: survivor loves taking the easy way out and they're miserable and.
Speaker 5: They pull everyone down with them.
Speaker 2: They love taking you with them.
Speaker 3: And then I'm thinking like survivor, like Destiny's Child had
Speaker 3: a huge hit that was just saying how awesome it
Speaker 3: is that I'm a survivor and this whole time survivor sucks.
Speaker 5: Ooh, that's a great point.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a negative connotation here and survivor.
Speaker 5: You know, if you're surviving, you're doing it right.
Speaker 3: So first we had all break the DC getting after Belichick,
Speaker 3: nes saala Is getting Beyonce interesting, contender, someone motivated by
Speaker 3: external factors like playing time, money, fame, opponent. Definitely feel
Speaker 3: like that that checks out competitor in the four levels
Speaker 3: of competitor, internally motivated, motivated, regardless of situation, always trying
Speaker 3: to be his best or her best.
Speaker 4: And I learned what PR is today personal record because
Speaker 4: I'm not a peloton, not on the peloton.
Speaker 3: Not motivated by money, fame, or opponent. This dude is
Speaker 3: trying to PR every day of his life.
Speaker 4: Huh okay, maxing out his potential championship mindset.
Speaker 2: And then commander all the traits of competitor with one more.
Speaker 2: He brings people with him.
Speaker 5: He's a leader.
Speaker 4: Paul as a leader, I see my I have a
Speaker 4: couple things here with this. The competitor, which you as
Speaker 4: a level of competitors. It's just a little confusing. I
Speaker 4: probably would have picked a different term for it. And
Speaker 4: then commanders the highest of the levels, when the commanders
Speaker 4: are also a team in the league. I just maybe
Speaker 4: would oh yeah, go on a different route there. But
Speaker 4: we have some notes, is all. We'd like to make
Speaker 4: this better because we're competitors, all right.
Speaker 2: Can you get Roberts all.
Speaker 3: On the line, Maybe we could, you know, take another
Speaker 3: crack at it, like the rookies had to take another
Speaker 3: shot at the Talent Show last week right to this week.
Speaker 4: It's just like you have and you have three of
Speaker 4: the levels that start with C. I like alliteration, commanders, competitors, contenders,
Speaker 4: and then survivor, Like maybe we go all one to
Speaker 4: really drive the point home.
Speaker 3: You're right, You're right, Yes, Episode three of Hard Knocks
Speaker 3: is you know you feel like this is like a
Speaker 3: little bit lived in. Now we know this team, we
Speaker 3: know what their vibe is, we know the energy around it,
Speaker 3: we know the excitement and anticipation, and we know this
Speaker 3: is Aaron Rodgers's world, And I think about what are
Speaker 3: people talking about coming out of this? I think there's
Speaker 3: there was so much build.
Speaker 2: Up, Connie to.
Speaker 3: The pursuit of Rogers. Remember the infamous report that Rogers
Speaker 3: had a demand's list or a hostage, hostage, a ransom note.
Speaker 2: Sure, well that's how how was it presented? It was
Speaker 2: like Rogers demand he.
Speaker 5: Had as he definitely had a list of things that
Speaker 5: he wanted.
Speaker 3: Right and one of those things he wanted was to
Speaker 3: have Randall Cobbs still be a teammate. And but in general,
Speaker 3: there's this idea of this undercurrent with Rogers that he's
Speaker 3: so bigger than life and such the focus of the
Speaker 3: Jets universe, which he is, that it's like how much
Speaker 3: power does he have? Like what are we seeing right now.
Speaker 3: That shows how much power he has in this organization.
Speaker 3: What are we not seeing, which is we'll get into
Speaker 3: a little bit later. What we're not seeing through three
Speaker 3: episodes of Hard Knocks, and one thing we know is
Speaker 3: that like, you got to be able to you have
Speaker 3: to reach the level of competiti for Aaron Rodgers for
Speaker 3: him to deem you worthy of being part of his world.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 3: You know who knows this. Randall Cobb knows this, Alan
Speaker 3: Lizard knows this. Garrett Wilson and the other wide receivers
Speaker 3: are learning this. And I thought one thing everybody's gonna
Speaker 3: be talking about is this clip of Randall Cobb talking
Speaker 3: to his fellow wide receivers at practice about what you
Speaker 3: need to do to be on Aaron Rodgers's good side.
Speaker 6: I was just talking at twelve or eight and he
Speaker 6: was just telling me, you know, we had a lot
Speaker 6: of mistakes in our room today and just basic stuff,
Speaker 6: little things right like we can't have that. And it's
Speaker 6: all cool right now, but I'm telling you, one day
Speaker 6: he's gonna lose it. It's gonna happen if it continues
Speaker 6: to go to the way it's going right now, because
Speaker 6: if you don't trust you, He's not gonna throw you ball.
Speaker 6: I can promise you that if you don't trust you,
Speaker 6: he don't not like throw interceptions. So if he can't
Speaker 6: trust that you're gonna run the right rode, he's not
Speaker 6: gonna throw it. It's just a matter of time. Continue
Speaker 6: to work and stay in your book and stay locked
Speaker 6: in so we can get to where we want to go.
Speaker 3: It's funny because even the wide receiver coach has to
Speaker 3: look like coach. We don't want to get him mad.
Speaker 4: Well, so you can tell that Aaron Rodgers has that
Speaker 4: type of personality that he is like so chill, he's
Speaker 4: so cool, like he will deal with a lot of
Speaker 4: bs that comes his way, but when he gets pissed
Speaker 4: and the line is crossed, he will freak out. And
Speaker 4: it's scary because it's like he is maybe suppressing a
Speaker 4: lot of that all the time, and.
Speaker 5: It seems like he's so even keeled even.
Speaker 4: When all of the or the fights were breaking out
Speaker 4: in the joint practices and he goes over to I
Speaker 4: think it was Devin White and he's like.
Speaker 5: Like, the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 4: And he's like sort of laughing, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: that kind of was like a little spiralized, but I
Speaker 4: like it. I recognize myself in him in that moment,
Speaker 4: so it's coming. And I also like that Garrett Wilson
Speaker 4: talked about how you have Randall Cobb and Alan Lazard
Speaker 4: as translators for him and the other wide receivers for
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it makes sense now as you hear an
Speaker 3: explanation like that from Cob why Rogers even if some
Speaker 3: people like, oh, you need Randall on your football team
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three or Alan Lazard, Wow, the Jets
Speaker 3: seemed to give him pretty good contract for you know
Speaker 3: what his production has been in the league. Whatever makes
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers comfortable, makes the team better, will make the
Speaker 3: offense better and the Jets. I think there's a very
Speaker 3: there's a very fine line from wisely working with someone
Speaker 3: like Aaron Rodgers is bigger than life character to letting
Speaker 3: him run your organization like what happened with Russell Wilson
Speaker 3: and our friend Nathaniel Hackett last year. And I think
Speaker 3: the Jets have been on the right side of the line.
Speaker 3: What I really but that's from our vantage point, right,
Speaker 3: I wonder what's really going on on the around the
Speaker 3: NFL podcast this past Monday, we had talked about how
Speaker 3: the Jets offensive line has continued to be a subject
Speaker 3: of consternation if it's going to be good enough, and
Speaker 3: Rogers basically said in a presser He's like, listen, I
Speaker 3: don't have control of you know, who's playing where. That's
Speaker 3: not a decision or conversations I'm privy to. And then
Speaker 3: you wonder like if a is that true actually or
Speaker 3: be when does Aaron Rodgers step into that room and
Speaker 3: say this is who I want playing? Because I think
Speaker 3: if he wants to be that guy, he can be
Speaker 3: because he has that much sway, which makes it it's
Speaker 3: a tough It's a tough thing for Robert Sala because
Speaker 3: everything is so great because number eight, number twelve, I
Speaker 3: mean number eight is here until you know, you get
Speaker 3: punched in the mouth, and what version of Rogers is
Speaker 3: in that building at that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yet to be seen.
Speaker 4: If it continues to trend in that direction, that's going
Speaker 4: to be a major problem. Even Robert Sala when he
Speaker 4: was talking about the different levels of competitors at the end,
Speaker 4: he drove home the point that the defense they were
Speaker 4: there the whole time.
Speaker 5: Like they showed up, they were competitive.
Speaker 4: It was the offense that needed the defense to really
Speaker 4: bring it out of them. It wasn't like the offense
Speaker 4: showed up. And this is not a knock on Rogers.
Speaker 4: It's just the knock on the offensive line and just
Speaker 4: some things that were not in place yet. The offense
Speaker 4: did not show up with the same fire that the
Speaker 4: defense did. I guess when camp started, and now he
Speaker 4: was thanking the defense for being like, thanks for bringing
Speaker 4: it out of the offense and dog.
Speaker 3: Gas that's right, And like, just to be clear, I
Speaker 3: didn't even think Roger's stature and what we clearly see
Speaker 3: the level of respect he engenders not just from his
Speaker 3: own team but everything around him.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: He is like one of those rare figures where it
Speaker 3: would make sense and the position he plays and what
Speaker 3: the quarterback means in this sport to be have hands everywhere,
Speaker 3: like he would be a guy where it would make sense.
Speaker 3: Now does it happen at the expense of the head
Speaker 3: coach having any power real power? And that's when it
Speaker 3: would get a little dicey, right, But Rogers seems to
Speaker 3: be in the right mindset because he's trying to win
Speaker 3: another World Wort Series. Another super Bowl here, It'd be
Speaker 3: cool if he won a world series.
Speaker 5: I do wild cannyway.
Speaker 4: Can we also talk about the fact that we watched
Speaker 4: the first eleven minutes of this show about any of
Speaker 4: the narration. We were watching like a raw cut of
Speaker 4: what Hard Knocks was, and I'm watching it thinking it
Speaker 4: seems like it's maybe moving a little slow, or it
Speaker 4: just like something amiss and I couldn't quite figure it out.
Speaker 4: And then we realized we were not watching the final cut.
Speaker 4: So I'm really glad we.
Speaker 5: Figured that out well.
Speaker 2: And you know, credit to Leev Schreiber and credit I
Speaker 2: looked it up.
Speaker 3: I wanted to mention it, Okay, not just credit to
Speaker 3: Liev Schreiber, credit to Jerry. I hope I go is
Speaker 3: right remail or remal who says writer in the credit. So,
Speaker 3: as Leev Schreiber had said in the first episode to
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, don't give me too much credit.
Speaker 2: I just read what's on the page.
Speaker 3: I think Jerry big g Jerry with a g oh
Speaker 3: is out there giving this content. But I mean I
Speaker 3: was gonna do it a little bit better show with
Speaker 3: Jerry getting Jerry in the house. Yeah, Jerry with the
Speaker 3: g G Dog. Since we're bringing up Leev Schreiber and
Speaker 3: how the show is not the same without him, it's
Speaker 3: not too early, is it to play the Leev Schreiber
Speaker 3: Quote of the week?
Speaker 5: Dan, It's never too early, Never too early.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of things here. I want everyone to know.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's your first time listening to the show. Okay, welcome,
Speaker 3: welcome Leev Schreiber, famous actor, incredible, incredible voice and.
Speaker 2: Narrator of the show.
Speaker 3: We can't use it on this program legally, Yeah, disqualified.
Speaker 2: But we have a buddy named Jay who sounds like him.
Speaker 3: And this isn't really does too, But this isn't just
Speaker 3: any other jaysumalt Reid.
Speaker 2: After what happened last week with the eight ball, it.
Speaker 4: Wasn't it wasn't great. But he's coming back. He's on
Speaker 4: the road to redemption. We hope, we think, we hope.
Speaker 2: Let's play it the Leev Schreiber quote of the week.
Speaker 7: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are in town for a game
Speaker 7: on Saturday, but today there's a joint practice. The old
Speaker 7: joke is that New Yorkers go to Florida to die.
Speaker 7: Now's the chance to flip the script and bury the Floridians.
Speaker 5: Oh, well, you did it. That was His voice is
Speaker 5: so good, very rich Timber, it really is.
Speaker 4: He's I love listen. I could listen to Zombie do
Speaker 4: leev drops all day long.
Speaker 2: I could listen to Jayson Walt read the phone Book. Wonderful. Uh,
Speaker 2: and that is true.
Speaker 3: I've I've heard that my whole life in New yorkers
Speaker 3: go to Florida to die snowbirds, right we retired, Well
Speaker 3: they don't come back.
Speaker 2: Well there's the two times.
Speaker 3: There's the people that go to Florida for the winner
Speaker 3: and then come back.
Speaker 2: Oh right, and then there's the people just go to
Speaker 2: Florida and they don't come back.
Speaker 4: It's a nice place to go and just and live
Speaker 4: out the Twilight years.
Speaker 3: Beautiful all right, and other episode news. That's good though.
Speaker 3: We finally got the Breeze Hall of it All. The
Speaker 3: Breeze Hall of it All. It was right around the
Speaker 3: Breeze Hall moment of the show where a definitely mentioned, wait,
Speaker 3: there's no voice.
Speaker 4: Over here, well, because at one point there was a
Speaker 4: trainer like stretching Breese Hall and there was no music
Speaker 4: and there was no narration and it was just silence.
Speaker 4: Like watching him kind of stretch out his groin and
Speaker 4: it just felt very off.
Speaker 3: Right, right right, just like a few minutes earlier there
Speaker 3: was one of the Jets coaches just going on the
Speaker 3: sideline to No.
Speaker 2: One in particular.
Speaker 3: Competition, competition, competition, competition, and without Liev there, you know,
Speaker 3: a little dry. But now we know we've learned in
Speaker 3: the future, we're going to look for Leev immediately. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: we're moving forward.
Speaker 2: Breeze Hall.
Speaker 3: I've said this before on ATN I'll say it again.
Speaker 3: It was awesome that the Jets swept the Offensive Rookie
Speaker 3: of the Year and Defensive Rookie of the Year awards.
Speaker 3: The craziest thing is, even if Garrett Wilson didn't have
Speaker 3: that year, if Breese Hall would have stayed healthy, the
Speaker 3: Jets would have swept it.
Speaker 2: With Hall and Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 5: The biggest competition was within their own locker room.
Speaker 3: Breecee Hall's second round pick in twenty twenty two was
Speaker 3: looking like a monster, like a one of those running
Speaker 3: backs that hits the ground and is a superstar until
Speaker 3: Week five in Denver. Earlier in the game, and they
Speaker 3: show that in this episode he has a seventy five
Speaker 3: yard touchdown run. I think it was Bob was Shoes
Speaker 3: in Voice of the Jets says Breese Lightning.
Speaker 2: Is this going to be the thing?
Speaker 5: Is this a thing?
Speaker 3: One drive later, I kid you not, he gets hit
Speaker 3: and tears his acl Are.
Speaker 5: We banning the nickname then because of that?
Speaker 2: Or first nickname?
Speaker 5: Because I think it's a great nickname.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good anyway.
Speaker 3: So we get to see Breee for the first time,
Speaker 3: and it's good because we learn more about his rehab
Speaker 3: and and he says, you have a He's talking about
Speaker 3: how because we don't really see this as football fans,
Speaker 3: these guys I think, I said, like football is the
Speaker 3: worst kind.
Speaker 5: Of Yeah, the mental anguish that they're going through, just how.
Speaker 3: There's no other sport where everything is taken away from
Speaker 3: you so quickly. Now there are freak injuries in every sport,
Speaker 3: but a football, especially in a running back, which is
Speaker 3: and this is set against the backdrop of what's happening
Speaker 3: in the league right now, with running backs can't get
Speaker 3: paid and having panic zoom meetings together trying to figure
Speaker 3: out what they could do about it. Like Breese Hall
Speaker 3: can go from the fastest man on the planet and butting.
Speaker 3: Superstar is a rookie to in an MRI machine learning
Speaker 3: that his knee is ripped up and he needs reconstructive surgery,
Speaker 3: and he talks a little bit about the process and
Speaker 3: the frustrations of it. I think it's noteworthy to like
Speaker 3: Jets beat reporters that are doing their write ups about
Speaker 3: this this episode, he says, obviously I want to play
Speaker 3: the first week, but I got to keep going doing
Speaker 3: what I gotta do. Dalvin cooks in the building. We
Speaker 3: see him sign with the Jets. He signs for a
Speaker 3: pretty big penny as well, Connie. So Dalvin Cook's in there.
Speaker 3: You see Breesehall practicing and looking good.
Speaker 2: He hits what.
Speaker 5: Twenty one mile an hour? That's the magic number.
Speaker 3: I I don't think the Jets should. I think they
Speaker 3: should take every every caution that they can to make
Speaker 3: sure a haul is one hundred percent before he plays.
Speaker 3: Everyone always circles week one, but with Dalvin Cook there,
Speaker 3: you don't need to do it necessarily.
Speaker 5: Not at all.
Speaker 4: Also, they have Michael Carter there too, right like they
Speaker 4: have options at the running back position. And if you
Speaker 4: have Dalvin Cook, I mean I would assume that is
Speaker 4: a huge reason why they ended up signing him because
Speaker 4: they don't want to rush Breese Hall back because they
Speaker 4: know what a talent he is and they want to
Speaker 4: make a deep run.
Speaker 2: How much do we love Nate Hacket?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, he's so funny.
Speaker 4: You mentioned that he sort of has a little Connor
Speaker 4: or him, who is over at Sports Illustrated, used to
Speaker 4: be part of the NFL media group and around the NFL.
Speaker 4: But he, Nathaniel Hacka just has this funny personality where he.
Speaker 5: Will go up around like a butterfly and he's like, hey, hey, hi,
Speaker 5: I am I'm You're on one of the coaches here.
Speaker 5: Nice to beat you.
Speaker 2: I think we have it.
Speaker 3: Actually here is so we mentioned Bresaw. So Breesaw's back
Speaker 3: at practice. Uh, Nate Hackett was coaching with the Denver
Speaker 3: Broncos last year, not well. So he doesn't have any
Speaker 3: real connection to Breese Hall. They've obviously met already in
Speaker 3: some capacity. But here's Hackett with that sense of humor.
Speaker 3: We both got to kick out of this.
Speaker 2: Hi, my name is Nathaniel Hackett. I'm one of the
Speaker 2: coaches here. Thanks, it's nice to see you out here. Nice.
Speaker 2: He walks away, excuse methane. It's nice. Nice to see nice.
Speaker 5: I feel like I need to defend Nathaniel Hackett. I'm
Speaker 5: a hacketthead like. I love him. I think he's so funny.
Speaker 4: His personality would fit in perfect with our whole friend group.
Speaker 5: That's it's the vibe.
Speaker 3: And it is fun like, Uh, you get why Rogers
Speaker 3: is into him and some guys, some guys hit a
Speaker 3: level where this is where they're supposed to be and
Speaker 3: then they may get promoted once by and it's.
Speaker 2: Not for them.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this whole vibe maybe makes sense
Speaker 3: in the big chair, right, especially having the context of
Speaker 3: knowing what happened last year now is getting to know him.
Speaker 2: A little bit this year?
Speaker 5: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: But in the SoC perch with Aaron Rodgers and it's
Speaker 3: not bad. Who loves him like a brother. Okay, you
Speaker 3: can see why he's feeling comfortable and good about himself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he kind of reminds me of a boss that
Speaker 4: I used to have before I came to work at
Speaker 4: NFL Media. He just like seems to always keep it
Speaker 4: light and that no matter what, just makes working with him.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure it's the same with all the Jets
Speaker 4: players like it just makes it easier. Obviously that didn't
Speaker 4: happen in Denver. But when you're not the head coach,
Speaker 4: I guess it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: You're right, all right? One more thing before we take
Speaker 3: a break. Okay, we get to our MVP conversation. For
Speaker 3: episode three, Woody Johnson, Jet's owner shows up again. Yes,
Speaker 3: and this is his by far, his most memorable cameo
Speaker 3: on the show, and I count twenty ten that season
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: What do you want to get into?
Speaker 3: Uh, For those that might not be aware of wood
Speaker 3: he the context of Woody's.
Speaker 4: Appearance, Yes, because I sort of grouped his appearance in
Speaker 4: under a larger umbrella of cringey moments. There were quite
Speaker 4: a few in this episode, and he was one of
Speaker 4: them because he brought he addressed the team and he
Speaker 4: said that he had a sort of like a surprise
Speaker 4: for them, and he unzipped his jacket and underneath he
Speaker 4: revealed an insanely like it just it was almost gratuitous.
Speaker 4: How many diamonds were on this chain and it said
Speaker 4: Woody in just all diamonds and let's go Jets.
Speaker 5: Underneath that, we think it says, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Think we really tried to like pause it and take
Speaker 4: a closer look.
Speaker 3: But that you viewer at home, by the way, you
Speaker 3: might have a higher definition television. Yeah, then we watched
Speaker 3: this on and if you could correct us if we
Speaker 3: have it wrong, but it definitely said Woody in all
Speaker 3: caps and then definitely said jets and we think.
Speaker 5: Go uh huh.
Speaker 4: So it was like that was his way of relating
Speaker 4: to everyone in the audience there, all of the players.
Speaker 4: It reminded me a little bit of Kirk Cousins dancing
Speaker 4: with the chains on the plane. Yes, a bit had
Speaker 4: those vibes to it, So yeah, that's that was one
Speaker 4: of the cringe moment.
Speaker 2: It got popped from the players.
Speaker 3: But then you know, if your boss comes in and
Speaker 3: does that, of course the players are going to react
Speaker 3: in a certain way. That's like, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 3: if like a rookie would have done the same thing,
Speaker 3: the crowd would have would have had the same reaction.
Speaker 2: But listen, he's the boss.
Speaker 4: I want to dimond count I want to know how
Speaker 4: expensive that was. What he's gonna do with it? Is
Speaker 4: he gonna wear it more? Is he gonna wear it
Speaker 4: if they're winning? Like, what is what happens with the
Speaker 4: woody chain.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much do you think it costs?
Speaker 2: Do you think I was real?
Speaker 4: I don't even know how to ballpark something like that.
Speaker 4: I would have no it was real.
Speaker 5: I mean Johnson, So is he getting a fake one?
Speaker 4: But it seems maybe it's CZ's Maybe he just did
Speaker 4: it for show.
Speaker 5: Maybe he's a showman. Maybe that's what he did.
Speaker 2: Maybe are you saying he's a commander.
Speaker 4: Well, if he's made it this far in life, and
Speaker 4: I want has the job that he know what?
Speaker 2: You know what show?
Speaker 3: I want to watch what happens when he walks out
Speaker 3: of that meeting room and he takes the necklace out.
Speaker 3: Does he throw it to an intern and turns like
Speaker 3: what do I do with it? And he's like, I
Speaker 3: don't care, get rid of it, take it away?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or maybe does he just throw it in a
Speaker 2: trash can?
Speaker 4: No, No, it goes in like a vault somewhere. I'm
Speaker 4: going to say that it's worth something.
Speaker 2: I think is it a three million dollar chain?
Speaker 5: I have no idea. I mean, I've never bought a diamond.
Speaker 2: You have a lot of jui.
Speaker 5: I don't buy I don't buy diamonds for myself.
Speaker 4: Also some of the other cringe moments The Rookie Talent
Speaker 4: Show Part two, the do over Many Many I mean
Speaker 4: this this poor you know what their football players, and
Speaker 4: that's exactly the lane that they need to stay in.
Speaker 4: Uh and that's fine. Although Jake, Jake Capp the tight end,
Speaker 4: he had a nice Yeah, he had a nice performance
Speaker 4: doing an Eminem bit.
Speaker 2: You know who was really into it?
Speaker 3: I felt our producer, Yeah, Eric Roberts, who's right in
Speaker 3: the age range where eight mile the film would affect
Speaker 3: him profoundly as a teenager.
Speaker 2: I feel like you seem to really enjoy that. Who's that?
Speaker 8: I might This is my third guys, second third grade,
Speaker 8: maybe exactly what the year this came out?
Speaker 2: And me check real quick. It came out in like
Speaker 2: O three.
Speaker 8: I want to say, yeah, it sounds about right. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I was graduating in twenty ten, So count backwards from there.
Speaker 8: It's about it sounds about right, second and third grade.
Speaker 2: Let's pause the show so you can count back. Yeah.
Speaker 8: So, but yeah, no, it's it's you guys asked who
Speaker 8: it was, It's yeah. It's the climax of the episode,
Speaker 8: the battle rap between b Rabbit Eminem's character and I
Speaker 8: forget the other guy's name, but yeah, it was a
Speaker 8: he got the guy did it from off the top
Speaker 8: of the head and it was good and.
Speaker 5: It's most steph.
Speaker 4: It shook ones because that's like throughout the episode he
Speaker 4: was practicing in the mirror to it. It kind of
Speaker 4: reminded me the performance itself of it was a lesser
Speaker 4: version of when Max Crosby was on Hard Knocks with
Speaker 4: the Raiders and did buy You a Drank by t Pain,
Speaker 4: which will anytime I see Max Crosby forever when he's
Speaker 4: on the field making plays, I still think about him
Speaker 4: singing that song.
Speaker 8: This would likely get some pop on social media. I
Speaker 8: don't know if it was as much as Aiden Hutchinson
Speaker 8: last year, because he killed it. He's his performance was better.
Speaker 8: The lyricism what do you do Billy Gen? No, it
Speaker 8: was as boys in one of those.
Speaker 3: We did get a Backstreet Boys thing, ye in this
Speaker 3: episode as well. Yeah, I'll give it up to at
Speaker 3: least Jerome cap is it his name?
Speaker 2: Yes, that was tough.
Speaker 3: That was because you they bombed so much in the
Speaker 3: first Rookie show. They were out for blood. The veterans
Speaker 3: like you see Aaron Rodgers and some other players just
Speaker 3: actually had guns, not real guns, water guns ready to
Speaker 3: that would be crack and he and he held his own,
Speaker 3: so so good for him. All right, let's take a break.
Speaker 3: When we get back. We talked m VP who was
Speaker 3: the MVP of episode three. And remember it's a.
Speaker 5: Vector vector voting.
Speaker 2: Vector voting system. Be right back, all right, welcome back,
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 3: Now the vector voting system is tremendously.
Speaker 2: Important to us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean two people who were aamously good at math,
Speaker 4: so this makes sense.
Speaker 3: Six points, I believe for a first place vote, four
Speaker 3: points for a second place vote, two points for a
Speaker 3: third place vote, culmulative.
Speaker 2: At the end of the season, there's an MVP.
Speaker 3: So we're getting to the point now at the midpoint
Speaker 3: of the season where every vote counts.
Speaker 5: It always does, really, if.
Speaker 3: You want to get all mathy about it, it doesn't
Speaker 3: count anymore or less because it's all the same. But
Speaker 3: it just feels more important now because now we need
Speaker 3: to almost start to make decisions based on who we
Speaker 3: want to be MVP. You know, you try not to
Speaker 3: do that and not let your biases get away, but
Speaker 3: you don't want to waste a vote at this stage.
Speaker 2: Put it that way.
Speaker 4: That's fair, that's fair. But I don't like to look
Speaker 4: ahead like that. I like to take it one episode
Speaker 4: at a time. Oh you're that, yeah, so I will
Speaker 4: not be planning ahead.
Speaker 2: All right, who is your third place vote? Then?
Speaker 4: Okay, my third place is He's actually I think he
Speaker 4: was in our MVP voting. Last week he stole the show,
Speaker 4: and this week he goes third. Cub Ball and Williams
Speaker 4: because he had one of the best exchanges that made
Speaker 4: me laugh in the episode when they have joint practices
Speaker 4: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and he takes exception to
Speaker 4: the fact that Mike Evans calls him fat. And I
Speaker 4: think we have this in a couple of parts, which
Speaker 4: I can.
Speaker 3: Understand why that would bother him, because Mike Evans isn't
Speaker 3: just a guy.
Speaker 2: This is a potential Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5: Not a jag.
Speaker 3: And Quinn Williams is he established himself as a star
Speaker 3: in the league and he's got Evans just banging him
Speaker 3: like that in a big spot.
Speaker 2: All right, let's listen to my game.
Speaker 4: Has called me fair?
Speaker 2: He called me fair, Bro, Bro, I lose wages all
Speaker 2: season now, sound cutches, Bro.
Speaker 5: He seems legitimately hurt by this.
Speaker 3: Well, then one of his teammates, Michael Clemens, uh you know,
Speaker 3: he chimes in, Yeah, I would say, damn bro.
Speaker 2: Well, oh you think me wanting? Do I look good
Speaker 2: to be through hundred pass? Okay? Cool though? Perforce?
Speaker 4: Jo, I think you're fit for a non skinny person.
Speaker 4: And then later in the practice, Quinn Williams confronts Mike
Speaker 4: Evans about.
Speaker 5: It and says, you call me fat. I lost weight
Speaker 5: the off season.
Speaker 4: And then they start joking around about it, but he
Speaker 4: just goes to show you, like how sensitive he is
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 5: It makes me love him even more.
Speaker 2: It makes him relatable.
Speaker 3: And I've thought about that before, like, these guys are
Speaker 3: elite athletes, but the D.
Speaker 2: Linemen and O linemen, like, yeah, they don't.
Speaker 3: Their bodies don't conform to like society in terms of
Speaker 3: what looks good.
Speaker 5: And levis wide receivers. They're all built different.
Speaker 3: Right, So Quentin Williams, who is honestly like a in
Speaker 3: terms of body, there are very few people on Earth
Speaker 3: that were gifted with a body as.
Speaker 2: Special as Quinn Williams. It's just in a little bit
Speaker 2: of a different package.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't love Mike Evans calling him fat. To
Speaker 4: be honest, I don't love it.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: I feel like it was in jest, but because they
Speaker 4: were laughing at the end, but still a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, a little bit, and it was funny.
Speaker 3: John Franklin Myers coming in at the end saying you
Speaker 3: proportion it.
Speaker 2: That seemed to set off set off Dane.
Speaker 5: You're fit for a non skinny person.
Speaker 3: All right, my third place vote, you know, I'm going
Speaker 3: to give it to the underdogs of episode.
Speaker 2: Three. We haven't seen.
Speaker 5: This is tough for your vector voting system.
Speaker 2: A lot of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of I don't want to say it's
Speaker 3: thrown away a vote, but there wasn't a cleared three
Speaker 3: to me, so I want to go with Tanzel Smart,
Speaker 3: a journeyman defensive lineman who's been bouncing around the league
Speaker 3: for three years.
Speaker 2: It did.
Speaker 3: I I thought initially that he was like twenty two
Speaker 3: or something. I didn't realize until this episode, and that's
Speaker 3: why I was really confused last week when we saw
Speaker 3: the pant After the Panthers game, who was it? Johnny Hacker,
Speaker 3: the punter, goes up to Smart and makes the joke
Speaker 3: about you know what he's known for us Smart in
Speaker 3: this season, so I want to eat a carcuccie board,
Speaker 3: And I was like, how does not to put like
Speaker 3: punters in a box? But how how does Johnny Hacker
Speaker 3: know this young kid? Like did he have to have
Speaker 3: someone like find out what his name and his number
Speaker 3: was and he sought him out? No, but that Smart
Speaker 3: came up with the Rams when Hacker was the punter
Speaker 3: of the Rams, so they knew each other previously.
Speaker 2: Okay, figure that out.
Speaker 3: That all checks out, and I like, I like Smart
Speaker 3: being focused on because he's trying to make this roster.
Speaker 2: He's trying to keep his NFL career alive.
Speaker 3: A lot of times in the show, the focus is
Speaker 3: on when we do the quote unquote underdog portion of
Speaker 3: this these seasons, it's about either undrafted rookies or a
Speaker 3: late round draft pick. Smart is in a different category,
Speaker 3: a guy who's seen it, been through it, has never
Speaker 3: broke through, but is still in the mix. And you
Speaker 3: see him making some plays both in practice and in
Speaker 3: the preseason. So shout out to Tanzell Smart. I hope
Speaker 3: he finds a home on this team. And then the
Speaker 3: rookie running back on the other side of that the
Speaker 3: more customary underdog on this show. Is he a Banakanda?
Speaker 3: Who that was tough? I gotta say this is more
Speaker 3: I feel bad for.
Speaker 4: Is he the joke the joke that he made in
Speaker 4: front of the team or no, what was the joke again?
Speaker 5: He made a joke.
Speaker 4: About like someone not getting in trouble because their first
Speaker 4: name was Justice.
Speaker 5: That was also in my cringe category.
Speaker 2: That was cringey.
Speaker 3: No, but they have the whole thing where he's from
Speaker 3: Brooklyn originally, so he's a hometown kid. You have all
Speaker 3: of his family uncomfortably sitting in the stadium with the
Speaker 3: camera right on him. That's a tough That's a tough one.
Speaker 3: I get the way they were. And then is he
Speaker 3: gets hurt and gets helped off the field. Luckily it
Speaker 3: wasn't a season ending injury, but it's gonna cost him
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. So that does present actually the
Speaker 3: Hard Knocks team with a bit of a conundrum because
Speaker 3: he was supposed to fill that void as the rookie.
Speaker 3: Is he gonna find a place on this roster? As
Speaker 3: you mentioned, very crowded running back room with Michael Carter, there,
Speaker 3: Breese Hall and Dalvin Cook he's out for at least
Speaker 3: two weeks according to reports out there. So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give it to the underdogs one. The journeyman won the rookie.
Speaker 3: Give him a little bit of love. Who's your second
Speaker 3: place for?
Speaker 5: Okay? Second place goes to head coach Robert Sala.
Speaker 4: All Right, we already went through the four levels of competitors.
Speaker 2: But did we decide we were what? What did we
Speaker 2: decide we were.
Speaker 5: Of those commanders?
Speaker 4: Obviously at least I mean we're at least I guess,
Speaker 4: competitors on the competitors scale.
Speaker 3: Eric, When you see us, the two of us talking
Speaker 3: on the show, do you think to yourself, this Parker
Speaker 3: Fenton behind the glass too, does great job on the
Speaker 3: video side.
Speaker 5: He's trying to set you up to tell me that
Speaker 5: I'm a survivor.
Speaker 3: No, like like, oh my god, I would follow these
Speaker 3: people to hell?
Speaker 2: Like do you get that vibe? When?
Speaker 8: Of course, yeah, of course, I think Robert Salad mentions
Speaker 8: that that's why Quinn William Williams got paid all that money.
Speaker 2: You know, you guys are the leaders. Follow you in
Speaker 2: with we could just yell and yell, so the Mike
Speaker 2: picks it up, would you follow us to hell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, since I was gonna say, Parker was pretty hesitant there.
Speaker 5: You just forgot her name moments ago.
Speaker 2: Did double down on the full name so that Parker
Speaker 2: Fenton follow her on Instagram.
Speaker 5: But had a lovely Journey conversation afterwards.
Speaker 3: So it feels like you guys your classic American rock band. Yes,
Speaker 3: I feel like that got me back in the good graces.
Speaker 3: She's wearing a Journey T shirt today. See how I
Speaker 3: clocked that as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, good job, great job.
Speaker 2: I'm out of it. I'm out of the doghouse, baby
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 4: Okay, So anyway, Robert Sala, maybe we'll come up with
Speaker 4: like some suggestions for the new levels. Maybe I'll do
Speaker 4: that on my red eye home tonight because I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be just crushing time.
Speaker 2: Oh You're gonna be listening to Journey on the way home.
Speaker 4: That and also maybe watching I have a lot of
Speaker 4: things on the to do list.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm gonna have enough.
Speaker 4: Time, it turns out, but for real, the reason he
Speaker 4: gets the second spot here is because he did an
Speaker 4: hour on the steps.
Speaker 5: Can we talk about just any steps like the stadium steps?
Speaker 2: The stadiums?
Speaker 4: Are you an hour sixty minutes. There's no way I
Speaker 4: would have died after one minute.
Speaker 2: And here's the.
Speaker 3: Thing that's jam that's just his cardio. Look, the guy
Speaker 3: is cut out of marble. He looks They showed him
Speaker 3: at one point on the sideline. I was watching some
Speaker 3: of the preseason game. I think he looks younger like
Speaker 3: he It looks like he could play. I don't know
Speaker 3: what he's right now.
Speaker 5: And so he's working out all the time. He is
Speaker 5: the head coach.
Speaker 4: He has seven kids learned like how he he must
Speaker 4: have more hours in the day than us normals.
Speaker 2: Good one.
Speaker 3: He deserves that my second place vote. You know, this
Speaker 3: one is not just this episode. Ostensibly it is this episode,
Speaker 3: but I'm going to give him a little love it.
Speaker 3: I think this season's better because Zach Wilson's involved with it. Okay,
Speaker 3: I find Zach Wilson, and we've talked about this to
Speaker 3: be compelling because of where he came from, which is
Speaker 3: second overall pick face of the franchise or that was
Speaker 3: the hope falls on his face in just brutal manner
Speaker 3: last season and loses his job to his childhood idol,
Speaker 3: and I just feel like Wilson is someone that's in
Speaker 3: a good place right now, and there will be a
Speaker 3: time in his career where he probably is under the
Speaker 3: harsh spotlight again. I think that's technically the plan in
Speaker 3: the Jets, like big Picture Pie in the sky, that
Speaker 3: Rogers makes them a beast the next two years, at
Speaker 3: least two to three years, and maybe they get that
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, and then when it's all over, he hands
Speaker 3: the reins to Wilson, who, now in this planet that
Speaker 3: the Jets occupy, has buried all that bad football earlier
Speaker 3: in his career, and now he's learned from the great
Speaker 3: Rogers and he could tap into his natural tith.
Speaker 2: That's the plan.
Speaker 5: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: Now it might sound ridiculous, and even as I'm saying it,
Speaker 3: this all sounds no like a movie.
Speaker 4: I actually wrote down in my notes when we were watching,
Speaker 4: I was going I wanted to ask you if it
Speaker 4: gave you any more confidence thinking about the future of
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson that he could actually learn from Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 4: and take over and be successful eventually. Well, they know,
Speaker 4: because you did just start talking about the plans, the plan,
Speaker 4: because you could see.
Speaker 5: It as you watched this whole episode.
Speaker 3: Here's what I know here's what we know about Zack Wilson.
Speaker 3: He is physically talented. Okay, that's how he became a
Speaker 3: number two pick, even though he was don dominating, you know,
Speaker 3: not big time programs when he was at BYU.
Speaker 2: But he has talent.
Speaker 3: If he was ever able to figure out the mental
Speaker 3: side of the game, yeah, maybe there is a good
Speaker 3: quarterback in the NFL in there.
Speaker 2: Does he have the leadership skills to make it happen?
Speaker 5: Does he have the dirt?
Speaker 3: Is he a commander or is he a survivor? That's
Speaker 3: the question. And right now he's in survivor mode, which
Speaker 3: is just like and not maybe in the way Rogers
Speaker 3: Solas saying it like he's just resetting his life right
Speaker 3: now and we're kind of long for the ride for that.
Speaker 3: It happened again where someone came up to him and
Speaker 3: it was saying like, yeah, how are things going, man,
Speaker 3: And he's like, you know what, it's just been good
Speaker 3: this year, Like everybody knows, he's put kind of took
Speaker 3: the ship into the bay and just docked it in
Speaker 3: neutral and it's just trying to get things under control.
Speaker 3: And we've been able to see that over the last
Speaker 3: couple of weeks and any Rogers Wilson conversation I just
Speaker 3: enjoy because it is like an uncle talking to his
Speaker 3: nephew totally, but like an uncle and nephew that have
Speaker 3: affection for each other.
Speaker 2: You can see that because you could see how Wilson.
Speaker 3: Will bust Rogers's like balls on things, and Rogers will
Speaker 3: just kind of laugh it off. It was Kyle Trask
Speaker 3: their conversation, the latest Wilson conversation with someone else, and
Speaker 3: he said, you know, it just does run. Every conversation
Speaker 3: he's having is about how the last two years were
Speaker 3: rough but this is good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It almost all of those conversations remind me of like
Speaker 4: two people just sitting at a park, like skipping, skipping rocks,
Speaker 4: skipping stones in the lake, just kind of hanging out.
Speaker 4: It does have that like uncle and nephew vibe to it.
Speaker 4: But Zach Wilson just seems overall so relaxed and like
Speaker 4: he's so fresh faced, he's so green, he's so wide eyed.
Speaker 4: But he does just have this you can tell that,
Speaker 4: having the ability to be behind Aaron Rodgers and not
Speaker 4: have all of that pressure on him.
Speaker 5: It seems like he's just more at ease too. In general.
Speaker 3: Yeah your first place.
Speaker 5: First place goes too Cob.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, So in this one we get a look
Speaker 4: at Randall Cobb's personal life a little bit.
Speaker 2: Had we heard from him at all really in the.
Speaker 4: No, because this was the first episode where we all
Speaker 4: talked about his eyes being so piercing, So I think
Speaker 4: that that was the first time it was like really
Speaker 4: on our radar, green eyes just for this season. But
Speaker 4: he we get a chance to meet his wife, we
Speaker 4: see his kids, and also we get the news that
Speaker 4: there's another baby on the way as well, and this
Speaker 4: really made me laugh.
Speaker 6: There's going to be another hand in the cop mob.
Speaker 2: Cop mob?
Speaker 8: Do you keep asking me for in my belly?
Speaker 5: A baby?
Speaker 2: Guess what? He do?
Speaker 6: Have a baby now, Mama, my jummy kids.
Speaker 4: I don't know why I found that sound so adorable,
Speaker 4: so funny.
Speaker 2: That's such second child energy.
Speaker 3: By the way, by the kid, because he's already worried
Speaker 3: that he's going to be displaced.
Speaker 2: Pushed his favorite.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes it was that. And then I.
Speaker 4: Also really got a kick out of Randall Coov going
Speaker 4: around to the different Jets players and telling them to
Speaker 4: clock Thomas Morstead running off the field, telling everyone that
Speaker 4: he basically sprints when he's finished, and it kind of
Speaker 4: reminded me. Do you remember that reds pitcher who used
Speaker 4: to sprint from the bullpen to the mound?
Speaker 5: I think it was Jared Hughes.
Speaker 4: Maybe, okay, but it was this like all out sprint
Speaker 4: and he looked insane doing it. And that's sort of
Speaker 4: what Thomas Morstad did. And they had this whole funny
Speaker 4: montage where they were like spot shadowing him, just going
Speaker 4: out of frames and stuff.
Speaker 5: It was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I likened him too, like a soccer dad, yes, trying
Speaker 3: to chase down the garbage truck with his trash can
Speaker 3: that he got out just a little bit too late.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So when he's finished punting, you guys must watch
Speaker 4: him to see him sprint off.
Speaker 3: And his explanation was I felt seen as a forty
Speaker 3: three year old dad. His explanation was, he has to
Speaker 3: do it. It's not because he's a like a psycho
Speaker 3: or anything. Because he's getting a little older, he tightens up.
Speaker 3: He's got to feel loose, so he does his little
Speaker 3: power sprints to loosen up the old limbs. So it's
Speaker 3: at Papa Hammy so good.
Speaker 5: Yes, So that's my number what about you?
Speaker 2: My number one is Quinn Williams. Oh.
Speaker 3: I think Quinn Williams has been a real treat because
Speaker 3: even as a Jets fan, I didn't really know much
Speaker 3: about him or felt like I knew like what his
Speaker 3: personality was. Yeah, it's like when this show is at
Speaker 3: its best, you learn more about these guys as people,
Speaker 3: and you see he's just like a fun loving guy.
Speaker 3: And like, I honestly think with that we played it
Speaker 3: earlier with his Mike Evans exchange, I think that was real.
Speaker 3: I think he's kind of a sensitive guy. I think
Speaker 3: he's but he's also kind of kidding on the square
Speaker 3: because he knows how good he is. He's confident in
Speaker 3: his abilities, but also like it seems like someone very
Speaker 3: easy to talk to.
Speaker 2: So it's good to have somebody.
Speaker 3: And you can see the way Salad talks about him
Speaker 3: that they have this rare guy that's hugely talented that
Speaker 3: they felt comfortable investing a ton of money in because
Speaker 3: they know the money's not going to make him.
Speaker 2: A worse guy.
Speaker 3: It's just going to amplify what makes him a good teammate.
Speaker 3: Maybe now is he a commander? He said he's a
Speaker 3: commander he seems almost too nice, like Aaron Rodgers. I
Speaker 3: could see as a commander, because you kind of got
Speaker 3: to be like the way Cop explained Rogers like you guys,
Speaker 3: things are right now, but you don't want to mess
Speaker 3: with him because he will light your ass up if
Speaker 3: you keep messing up, Like does Big Cue?
Speaker 2: Does he well have that in him?
Speaker 3: I don't know if he does, but he doesn't need it,
Speaker 3: I don't think necessarily to be an all time great
Speaker 3: jet lovable.
Speaker 4: I talked to him at the Combine years ago, and
Speaker 4: he was the exact same way, and he had his
Speaker 4: braces at that point and a huge smile, and he
Speaker 4: was just so happy to be there and so easy
Speaker 4: to talk to and was offering up all sorts of
Speaker 4: fun stories. And I remember after he walked away from
Speaker 4: that interview, everyone that was on the set with us,
Speaker 4: we were all like, I don't care where he goes,
Speaker 4: we will be fans of his Yeah.
Speaker 2: Braces, Yeah, he was like a teenager. Yeah there you go.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Good and the and the Vector voting system. Only two
Speaker 3: episodes left now, so every vote.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, big app for Quentinn Williams in the MVP race,
Speaker 3: who I think has now announced himself as a real
Speaker 3: player as Hard Knocks MVP.
Speaker 2: What's coming next? As we before we sign off?
Speaker 3: You know one thing I want to say, so much
Speaker 3: hand ringing about the Jets not wanted to do the show,
Speaker 3: and then the idea that what kind of access did
Speaker 3: we get will we get?
Speaker 2: We have gotten a lot of great access.
Speaker 3: We've learned a lot about the players, learned, you know,
Speaker 3: good practice access, you know, fun sideline stuff during these games.
Speaker 2: Are we going to get Connie in any of these
Speaker 2: last three episodes?
Speaker 3: Is to get we get closer to cutdown day, Like
Speaker 3: the old model was actually better for Hard Knocks where
Speaker 3: cuts kind of were broken down into phases instead of
Speaker 3: all and all in one shot, so that that built
Speaker 3: up some of the drama narrative wise for the show
Speaker 3: that's gone. But I wonder are we going to see
Speaker 3: conversations behind the scenes between coaches the coaches rooms talking
Speaker 3: about Let's use it as an example, Connie the running
Speaker 3: back conversation correct where they have four guys that they
Speaker 3: like but really probably only room for three of them.
Speaker 3: In old and prior seasons of Hard Knocks, we've seen
Speaker 3: the running back coach pounding the table for a guy.
Speaker 4: Who loves We've seen it, Douce Daley. We saw it
Speaker 4: last year in Detroit with the Lions. That's how we
Speaker 4: met so many of the coaches. We've now fell in
Speaker 4: love with so many of the coaches. I want to
Speaker 4: see the deliberations. I want to see guys getting into
Speaker 4: arguments about why their guys should make the team. And also,
Speaker 4: like I always love, in the background you kind of
Speaker 4: see the board, but you can't make out the names.
Speaker 4: I just want to see the whole setup of what
Speaker 4: they're dealing with up there.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm thinking even of not that
Speaker 3: long ago, the Browns hard knocks Greg Williams the DC
Speaker 3: publicly or not privately, I should say, privately challenging Hugh Jackson,
Speaker 3: the head coach, with Hugh right there and and Hugh
Speaker 3: in a you know, self defensive way saying I'm driving
Speaker 3: this bus. Like real tension in that room now every
Speaker 3: I know, at least from where aware of standing, everything
Speaker 3: is great and hunky dory around the Jets right now,
Speaker 3: but there's got to be These are all guys that
Speaker 3: are competing and as coaches, they all have strong opinions.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll get some more of that in the last
Speaker 2: two PEPs.
Speaker 5: We don't see some drama. We're here for the drama,
Speaker 5: the gossip.
Speaker 2: Let's see it all, all right, Connie, you've said it all.
Speaker 5: I have all gat snow break.
Speaker 2: You're off to Philadelphia. Hopefully there will be breaks for
Speaker 2: the plane that.
Speaker 5: God, yeah, I hope. So that's where you went.
Speaker 2: Let's do the math here. Let's see what.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hope there's landing gear too.
Speaker 3: We have eight miles about probably two and a half
Speaker 3: hours a best of journey playlists. Maybe i'll you want
Speaker 3: to like a ten track best of journey?
Speaker 5: I would love that.
Speaker 3: Shoot you a little link of that. So that'll be
Speaker 3: an hour. So that takes you to three and a
Speaker 3: half hours. What is it five hours to Philly?
Speaker 5: Yeah? About that?
Speaker 2: All right? What was the other thing you were gonna do?
Speaker 4: There was something else and I already forgot it because
Speaker 4: I didn't write it down. I do have a bag
Speaker 4: of meatballs, though, the.
Speaker 2: Bag of meatballs. You can scarf those down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna be smelly in the person next to
Speaker 3: you is gonna be pissed off. It's gonna be great
Speaker 3: bag of meatballs. It's gonna surprisely you take a long
Speaker 3: time to eat the meatballs. Twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so now we're at three hours, almost.
Speaker 5: Four hours, and hopefully I can remember what the other thing.
Speaker 4: Oh I remember, I was gonna come up with new categories,
Speaker 4: new categories for the four levels of competitors.
Speaker 2: That will take you easily an hour.
Speaker 3: And you're touching down at the Philadelphia International Airport, straight
Speaker 3: to the Phillies game and away we go.
Speaker 2: Go see them in fields playing great baseball. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The second, all right, more than I could say for
Speaker 3: my Yankees. Aaron Rodgers, go win a World Series for
Speaker 3: the Yankees. We could use you, We can use you.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: That's it until next Tuesday. Thank you to everybody for
Speaker 3: following along, and of course check out around the NFL
Speaker 3: as well for more football takes until next week.
Speaker 2: Heat the Call the same