WEBVTT - Part One: Behind the Bastards Q&A: Year's End Edition

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<v Speaker 1>Also media.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey everybody, I'm Robert Evans. This is Behind the Bastards,

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast by a man who is preparing for the

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<v Speaker 2>entrance of the new regime, the need to go underground.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm in my chut block today. You know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a tall white man and you wear a hoodie

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<v Speaker 2>with a deer head on it, you're effectively invisible. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm I'm prepared for the new world. Are you?

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<v Speaker 1>You look great?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Sophie. I love my chud hits. It's actually

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly comfortable. Hi. Every year after deer season, this exact

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<v Speaker 2>hoodie comes on for sale at a store near me,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I can get like three for five bucks

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<v Speaker 2>each or some shit like that, and they're crazy comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh per usual. I spent the last hour trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make myself look nice enuf for the camera. So

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<v Speaker 1>people aren't mean to me on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, very different, very unequal situation. But I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>not going to spend an more time caring about my appearance.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough. What are we doing today, Ert.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Sophie, the same thing we do every night, try

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<v Speaker 2>to take over the world of podcasting. Oh wait, we

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<v Speaker 2>already did that. Yeah, I guess let's answer some q

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<v Speaker 2>and as from our fans.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we put out a post on our Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>at Bastard's Pod, and many of you sent in questions

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<v Speaker 1>and so we're going to try to answer a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. The gist of this situation is, folks, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the year. This is when all of

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<v Speaker 2>the companies that buy ads are really buying ads, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's you know, when everybody wants to get as

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<v Speaker 2>many people listening as possible. And we decided, rather than

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<v Speaker 2>doing something that's zero effort and like you know, running

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<v Speaker 2>more episodes, which we do when we take a break,

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<v Speaker 2>we wanted to give you guys a chance to ask

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<v Speaker 2>us some questions and also make sure that we're providing

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<v Speaker 2>you with new stuff because you crave new stuff. You

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<v Speaker 2>won't stop demanding it every instant of our live. Sophie

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<v Speaker 2>and I think of nothing but pleasing your insatiable appetites.

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<v Speaker 2>So Sophie went on Instagram and asked if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>had any questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert, Yes, what was your least favorite episode to do?

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<v Speaker 1>And why.

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<v Speaker 2>Least favorite to do? I assume they're asking, ever, I

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<v Speaker 2>hate I really unless it's a place where I have

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<v Speaker 2>a specific interest. I really hate the Foreign Leader episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>Like obviously Stallin's a foreign leader, but I've been reading

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<v Speaker 2>about Stalin my whole live. Hitler's a four um, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've read more books about Hitler than anybody who's not

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<v Speaker 2>a Hitler scholar. But like jay or Bolsonyaro, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know much about Brazilian politics coming in Netan Yahoo,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know much about you know, politics over there.

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<v Speaker 2>So like getting up to speed, not just because you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just enough to like learn what was ntyah

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<v Speaker 2>Who's childhood, Like, you also have to know like the

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<v Speaker 2>dynamics of politics prior to him coming into power, and

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<v Speaker 2>like the part like and catching up on all of

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<v Speaker 2>that in a way that you don't totally embarrass yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Is is a lot of work, and it's also nerve

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<v Speaker 2>racking because, like, especially again to go back to net Yahoo,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a guy who I mean who had been

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<v Speaker 2>involved in genocidal activity prior to where we are right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But like certainly like it was the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>where like because of how high the stakes are and

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<v Speaker 2>how bad the things he was up to were like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, the anxiety about fucking that up. A

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<v Speaker 2>same with Bolsonyaro, right, this guy who's fucking around the

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon with indigenous peoples, this dude who is a very

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<v Speaker 2>important part of this authoritarian trend. But also me, a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who doesn't know much about Brazil. I'm always very

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<v Speaker 2>anxious about those episodes. It's they're important to do. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be doing more of them next year. I just I

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<v Speaker 2>always like stress out over because there's no not getting

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<v Speaker 2>some stuff wrong, right, Like of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course it's it's especially with history because it's so subjective. Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I really fucking hate when we do the like willedness

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<v Speaker 1>camp school things and that, like horrific, horrific kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I love suffering kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Think they're in a safe place and then they get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, insert horrible thing here. Those those episodes, I

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<v Speaker 1>really really fucking hate those.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm illa lead them up all day.

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<v Speaker 1>We did get this question quite a bit, and people

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<v Speaker 1>want to know how you celebrated the passing of Henry Kissinger.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, to be honest, that was a pretty normal

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<v Speaker 2>day for me. Like there's not a lot I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>he's dead, but like he lived an incredibly long life.

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<v Speaker 2>And got to do most of the things he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>and never really suffered. So it's like, how much like

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's say I had a beer. You know, let's

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<v Speaker 2>say I had a beer.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say I had a beer. So cryptic? What the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you sound so unwell? Robert? Is there an episode

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<v Speaker 1>talk or individual that you have covered that I've left

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<v Speaker 1>you shaken up or angry long after you completed the episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Everything we do on healthcare, Yeah, every time we have

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<v Speaker 2>done a healthcare I know this is the week that

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Every time we talk about the US healthcare system.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fucking livid. Industrial the Hawk's Nest Tunnel disaster Union

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<v Speaker 2>Carbide did in Bopaul, India as well, Like both of

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<v Speaker 2>those are Union carbide affiliated disasters. Those drive me fucking insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Like to some extent, I find those guys more offensive

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<v Speaker 2>than a guy like Hitler, which is not saying that

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<v Speaker 2>they're worse than hit because Hitler did kill more people

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<v Speaker 2>than like UNID Carbide. But Hitler was like a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who very honestly was about murdering people, whereas these guys

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<v Speaker 2>are all pretending to be decent men, family men, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, all I'm doing is trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>jobs and provide a valuable part of the economy, and

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<v Speaker 2>they are just killing people by fucking the city full.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, those make me very angry.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you one that won't make you

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<v Speaker 1>very angry, Robert, what is your opinion on modern Star Trek?

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<v Speaker 1>I love most of it, so what they say.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, okay, Lower Dex is my favorite Star Trek thing

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<v Speaker 2>since DS nine. Sure, I've seen some episodes of Strange

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<v Speaker 2>New Worlds and there's I can see why people like

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<v Speaker 2>it a lot. I'm kind of exhausted with that time

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<v Speaker 2>period in the Star Trek timeline, Like I want new stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I want fucking a like do one where Rikers like

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<v Speaker 2>an old admiral and we're fucking dealing with starfleet politics

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<v Speaker 2>back on Earth at San Francisco. Give me anything where

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<v Speaker 2>we're moving forward on the timeline, but we're not leaping

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<v Speaker 2>into like weird future warshit Like, I'm not mostly interested

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<v Speaker 2>in that stuff. I'm mostly interested with. Actually, part of

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<v Speaker 2>why I love DS. I love TNG because it's really

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<v Speaker 2>looking at like what is would a utopia be in

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<v Speaker 2>a sense that's actually imaginable as something real that like

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<v Speaker 2>something that could exist in some ways. And then Deep

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<v Speaker 2>Space nine is asking what would the dark sides of

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<v Speaker 2>that utopia be? In particular, not even the dark sides,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's less that and more kind of like what

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<v Speaker 2>the culture series, you know, dealt with, Like what happens

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<v Speaker 2>when this utopia and the people in it inevitably make

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<v Speaker 2>contact or collide with reality or not reality because they

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<v Speaker 2>live in reality, but with places that are not utopia,

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<v Speaker 2>with places that are different, that are worse, that have

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<v Speaker 2>different values, Like what are those clashes like? And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I love in my Star Trek. I don't Star

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<v Speaker 2>Trek's never had good space battles. I'll say that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, every now and then you get like a

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<v Speaker 2>Wolf three five nine or something. There's some pretty cool

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<v Speaker 2>shit there, but like, fucking a, there's that one scene

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<v Speaker 2>in Serenity is a better space battle in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>like an interesting, cool looking space battle that ever got

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<v Speaker 2>shot in Star Trek. But I don't watch Star Trek

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<v Speaker 2>for space battles. I've got other shit for space battles.

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<v Speaker 1>That was very thorough.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh this question, who is your fantasy guest?

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<v Speaker 2>Fantasy guest? Uh? Marissa Tomay During the my cousin Vinny.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh were were talking about fantasy here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they wow very specific. I think they mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you could have anybody come and guest on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>who would your dream?

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<v Speaker 2>No, yes, I know what they meant. I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to have I don't even know if I'd do an episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just love to talk with either Alan Moore

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<v Speaker 2>or Verner Herzog, like specifically, if I had Herzog. The

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<v Speaker 2>thing I most want to do with Herzog. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>we could record it, but I don't really care if

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<v Speaker 2>we do is I'd like to cook a meal with

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<v Speaker 2>Verner Herzog. Sure, but I think, uh yeah. In terms

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<v Speaker 2>of funny people, I think Will Ferrell would probably be

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<v Speaker 2>a really good guest. He's far too famous for us,

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<v Speaker 2>but he seems like he's got a good sense of

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<v Speaker 2>humor about these kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you guess who mine is?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's yours? Can you guess yours is Harry Styles?

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<v Speaker 1>Nope? Okay, there's only one obvious answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it would be it would be like really funny

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<v Speaker 2>to bring Harry Styles one and just to like Unit

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<v Speaker 2>seven thirty one, just like NonStop four hours of the

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<v Speaker 2>most nightmareish stories of torture.

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<v Speaker 1>And you just go like treat people with kindness. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? No, that's not who it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh, there's only there's only one person it could be. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who I'm waiting to see if you know?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't. I gave you my guess.

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<v Speaker 1>The listeners are disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, they're lists of pointed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's Lebron James.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Yeah, I mean we could try. We could

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<v Speaker 2>talk about two experts like us. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people would enjoy hearing our different feelings

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<v Speaker 2>on ball handling, on three pointers, other basketball stuff. Those

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<v Speaker 2>aren't the only two basketball related terms I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, I think a lot of people would want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your opinion on ball handling. Rob anyways for an.

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<v Speaker 2>Outbreak, Sophie, Yeah, the subreddit's going to be very uncomfortable today.

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<v Speaker 2>We are back Robert.

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<v Speaker 1>This question was asked five hundred and fifty two thousand times.

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<v Speaker 1>One can we expect a sequel to After the Revolution? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the book's done, basically, I'm almost I've finished the

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<v Speaker 2>rough draft. I'm almost through with the first draft, which

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<v Speaker 2>is when I read through the rough draft, chapter by

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<v Speaker 2>chapter and make the edits that occur to me to

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<v Speaker 2>make it make sense. I think probably in January, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>put out the first three chapters just as kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a teaser, but I'll be you know, working with my

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<v Speaker 2>editor to get it in the shape. But very soon,

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<v Speaker 2>very soon. It's taken much longer than I had hoped

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<v Speaker 2>it would. In my defense, both my parents died since

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<v Speaker 2>publishing the first one, so you know that's not really

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<v Speaker 2>an excuse, but it's going to make you feel bad,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you're not going to like follow up with

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<v Speaker 2>complaining that the book's not out yet. I'm manipulating you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm a monster. I know it, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're allowed. Uh, you've referenced that there are people who

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<v Speaker 1>start to look into but ultimately find that there isn't

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<v Speaker 1>really enough there for an episode. Who came the closest

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<v Speaker 1>to being worthy of doing a whole episode about? But

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<v Speaker 1>who was the most disappointing person that you weren't able

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<v Speaker 1>to do an episode about.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's happened. It has there's been, and usually

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<v Speaker 2>when that happens, it's not that there's not enough, it's

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<v Speaker 2>that there's just like not enough information about what they did,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll hear like a reference to like some CEO who

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<v Speaker 2>did this like really fucked up thing, was like fucking

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<v Speaker 2>eating poor people or whatever. Shit. But it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>all I've got is like three sentences from an old newspaper.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't really get an article out on that. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>names aren't coming to mind. The closest I can come

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of what I remember is like I almost

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to do the Beau Brummel episodes after hours

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<v Speaker 2>of research, because I did kind of come to the conclusion,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's some bad side effects as a result

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<v Speaker 2>of what he did, but that's nothing like not that

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<v Speaker 2>morally reflects on him in a negative way, Like he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't trying to make generations of men more limited in

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<v Speaker 2>their fashion choices. He just like liked what he liked.

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<v Speaker 2>And likewise, I guess, uh, there's been a handful.

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<v Speaker 1>Of people where you've been like where people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a say that you've looked into them. People

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<v Speaker 1>are like, why don't you do an episode on so

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<v Speaker 1>and so? And you're like, because they're fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Boring, Like like Ben Shapiro, what am I going to say?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you say? What is there really to say

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<v Speaker 2>about Ben? You know, I have looked into him. I

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<v Speaker 2>did think about it, and like at this point he

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<v Speaker 2>does have a negative impact. He's just boring, and like

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<v Speaker 2>that's a big I will say when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>if your question is ever, why haven't you done so?

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<v Speaker 2>And so the answer is usually either I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>boring and if it's someone where that you're like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way he thinks this guy's boring, this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>objectively interesting. It's because that's going to be a shitload

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<v Speaker 2>of work. And like I'm always triaging the like the

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<v Speaker 2>Lawrence of Arabia episodes, which seems to have gotten a

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<v Speaker 2>good reaction. I think I had to read like five books.

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<v Speaker 1>For I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was working in the background, slowly getting through material

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<v Speaker 2>for yeah, starting in like January, and not everything is

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<v Speaker 2>like but like Kissinger was like that. Kissinger was like

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<v Speaker 2>a year of background work. And the current big one

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm very slowly working on is doing another Nixon,

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<v Speaker 2>doing a Nixon probably six parter because it's it's fucking Nixon,

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<v Speaker 2>but at least a four parter, and that's gonna take

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<v Speaker 2>me a while because I really don't. There's so many

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<v Speaker 2>stories because you could put that much effort into everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's a lot of folks. You would just be

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<v Speaker 2>reading stuff that's largely repeating similar bits with slightly different

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<v Speaker 2>takes with Nixon, everyone who digs into him. There's so

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<v Speaker 2>many stories. There's so many people who know crazy shit

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<v Speaker 2>about Nixon. You really almost can't come to an end

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<v Speaker 2>of collecting fucked up Dick Nixon stories. Like it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>an it's almost like our most renewable resource on planet

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<v Speaker 2>Earth is stories of Richard Nixon being a freaking weird know,

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<v Speaker 2>so it takes some time.

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<v Speaker 1>Which episode received the most backlash from fans?

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<v Speaker 2>Backlash? I uh, you know, I had some there was

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<v Speaker 2>some frustration over an episode we did that was I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was mixed. It's always really mixed, even when

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<v Speaker 2>there is like about that doctor who was like doing

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<v Speaker 2>really bad surgeries for trans people. There were some folks

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<v Speaker 2>who had some specific frustrations with that, and then some

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<v Speaker 2>folks who didn't. And you know, ultimately it's one of

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<v Speaker 2>those things where when you're dealing with stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 2>there are probably multiple right ways to do it, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's tough. I think, like The biggest thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I the biggest thing that frustrates me in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of like feedback from listeners is when people will be like, obviously, figure,

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<v Speaker 2>this person has autism, why didn't you bring that up?

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<v Speaker 2>Or that's an explanation for this behavior, why didn't you

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<v Speaker 2>bring that up? And the answer in every cases that

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<v Speaker 2>person has not been diagnosed with anything. All I have

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<v Speaker 2>is the behavior. Multiple other things could explain the behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not going to just declare Jeffrey Bezos to

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<v Speaker 2>have autism based on my zero experience as a diagnostician

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<v Speaker 2>because he didn't like music, right, Like, there are other

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<v Speaker 2>reasons people might not like music, and it's just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of an interesting detail about how he's sort of disconnected

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<v Speaker 2>from a lot of the people around him. That can

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<v Speaker 2>be explained by many different things. But it's not my

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<v Speaker 2>job to be like, this is what I believe is

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<v Speaker 2>going on with Jeffrey Bezos. So now we all have

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<v Speaker 2>to act like it's true, because it's probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Robert, uh huh, We're kind to read up on

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<v Speaker 1>Robert's Warzone journalism or whatever older pieces maybe out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, there's I mean, most of it was on cracked

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. Some of that found its way into it

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<v Speaker 2>could happen here, at least my conclusions based on it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a video that you could view in VR

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<v Speaker 2>that was like a three sixty video documentary of some

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<v Speaker 2>of my time in Mosel that was published through the

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<v Speaker 2>e W Script's network. I think that one was called

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four Hours in Mosl or something like that. They

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<v Speaker 2>was broadcast also on a bunch of TV networks. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't actually know if the link is up. A decent

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<v Speaker 2>number of things that I wrote back then, for like

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<v Speaker 2>local news, have become lost media, because that's how that

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<v Speaker 2>shit be. Yep, but you could. You should still be

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<v Speaker 2>able to find some of the stuff on Cracked that

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<v Speaker 2>I did, so yeah, I would say check that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's do a fun one before the next adbreak, Robert.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were a spice girl, what would be your

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<v Speaker 1>spice girl name?

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<v Speaker 2>If I were a spice girl, my spice girl name

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<v Speaker 2>would be doesn't want to say anything mean about the

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<v Speaker 2>Spice girls because I am close to several women who

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in love with the spy sgirls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, what would you so? Your your Space?

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<v Speaker 2>That was my name? Yes, your Space game? My name?

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<v Speaker 1>Your spice girl name is afraid of women.

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<v Speaker 2>Spice specifically afraid of the women that I like Spice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, afraid of women I like Spice, got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Afraid of offending them based on making having a bad

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<v Speaker 2>take about the Spice girls Spice.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think I would be producer Spice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's probably fair too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time Brad's again. We'll be back, Robert, We're back.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you believe it?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know. It's crazy. When did you decide bTB

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be your next thing? Was it something

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<v Speaker 1>you've been building towards in your life? Was it becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a pod a major goal? Or did it just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to explain this to you in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that also explains some questions that we can't answer directly

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<v Speaker 2>about why do you guys work for X or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>are involved with you know, such and such company?

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<v Speaker 1>Answer that we can, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm gonna do. Sure. Yeah. So, I when

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<v Speaker 2>I was late into my time at Cracked, I was

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<v Speaker 2>getting bored of writing, doing the kind of articles I'd

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<v Speaker 2>been doing for years. There these personal experience pieces where

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<v Speaker 2>I'd interview someone and then turn their life experiences or

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<v Speaker 2>the reporting that i'd done into like a listicle, and

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<v Speaker 2>podcasts were starting to blow up. I was interested in

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<v Speaker 2>the medium. I'd done one through Cracked and found aspects

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<v Speaker 2>of it pleasant. And the thing I had pitched was

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<v Speaker 2>something based on my special interest, which is the Nazis.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I had done an article that had done

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<v Speaker 2>very well on things you don't know about the Nazis,

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<v Speaker 2>that had delved into things we've touched on in some

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<v Speaker 2>episodes of the podcast, you know, all of these these

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<v Speaker 2>very weird that we talked. I talked about Carl May

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in Hitler's obsession with these cowboy novels and

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<v Speaker 2>how that impacted the Third Reich and so that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff, and I was like, I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>a series where every season I talk about a different

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<v Speaker 2>dictatorial regime and all of the crazy weird facts about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So season one be ten episodes on like these weird,

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<v Speaker 2>fat things you don't know about the Nazis. Maybe we'd

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<v Speaker 2>move on to Saddam Hussein or staff. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>all got shit canned, and I remember, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you have good friends among your coworkers. When like, as

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<v Speaker 2>we're all getting drunk, one of the people who hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>gotten laid off was Alex Schmidt, good old Schmitty, and

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<v Speaker 2>Schmitty and I are talking and I'm like, oh, so

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<v Speaker 2>I had this great and Schmitty's running podcasts at cracked

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<v Speaker 2>and still employed, and I'm like, I have this great

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<v Speaker 2>idea for a show, and Schmitty, being a very good friend,

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<v Speaker 2>is like, don't tell it to me. So I didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I spent the next couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 2>getting fucked up like you do when you get laid off,

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<v Speaker 2>and then had a call with Jack O'Brien and Sophie

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<v Speaker 2>was on that call because Jack had left a few

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<v Speaker 2>months earlier to work at Stuff Media, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>company that was producing shows like you know stuff, you

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<v Speaker 2>should know, stuff, you should know, you should know stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want you to know.

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<v Speaker 1>All that stuff They missed a history class. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>house Stuff's worked team out of that was originally out

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<v Speaker 1>of Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and our boss is actually the guy you started

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<v Speaker 2>mental flaws like this is these are all.

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<v Speaker 1>For one of the guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, one of the guys. These are all folks

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<v Speaker 2>who came out of the same era of digital media

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<v Speaker 2>as me, who were all pivoted, had pivoted to podcasting

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<v Speaker 2>a little earlier. So I had my meeting with my

0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.520
<v Speaker 2>old boss Jack, and I tell him my idea for

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<v Speaker 2>this dictator show that I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's pause for five seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>When Robert says, I've mentioned this previously before. But when

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<v Speaker 1>Robert says he tells his idea for a dictator show,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, this is my first this is my

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<v Speaker 1>first interaction with Robert is. He's like running through a

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<v Speaker 1>wind tunnel.

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<v Speaker 2>I was jogging in San Francisco underneath a bridge, as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm often doing near dog Patch if you're curious.

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<v Speaker 1>And he uh, I could hear you know, half the words,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like bad guys, history worst And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yep, I would like to produce I thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>And unhinged, unhinged.

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<v Speaker 1>But old Jack O'Brien was like, okay, yeah, because Jack

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<v Speaker 1>actually had stolen me. Actually actually Jack actually actually stole it,

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<v Speaker 1>stole me. I can't even say that us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a terrible word.

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<v Speaker 1>So I worked at a company that bought how stuff works.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was working at that company doing like project

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<v Speaker 1>management stuff, which is kind of like why it makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>why I'm so so able to control the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>shows we have because a lot of my background was

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<v Speaker 1>in that and Jack. When Jack came on to run

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<v Speaker 1>the la version of and it was originally just comedy

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<v Speaker 1>of the How Stuff Works team, he stole me from

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<v Speaker 1>that other company. Thank you, Jack. Yeah, And soon after

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<v Speaker 1>that I got to meet Robert and changed my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, that's that's the well. And during that

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<v Speaker 2>meeting again, my show had been my idea had been

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<v Speaker 2>seasons about like each season about a different dictatorship, and

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<v Speaker 2>Jack was like, what if every episode you just switch

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<v Speaker 2>and give a different you know, a couple of episodes

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<v Speaker 2>a different monster, and you can go back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>and revisit different aspects of topics, which is a much

0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 2>better idea. It would not the show would not have

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<v Speaker 2>worked as in a seasonal format the way that it

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<v Speaker 2>does as a weekly, even though making this into a

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<v Speaker 2>weekly show has destroyed my life, but in a good way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's not even just that, because it started as

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<v Speaker 1>weekly and then and then you're like, man, would it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense if we like split things into parts? Mm hm,

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<v Speaker 1>So now it's now it's a twice weekly show at least.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, oh, our origin. Hm, that's so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, we worked at this company called how Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>and for Stuff Media whatever whatever. They went publicly by

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<v Speaker 1>how Stuff Works and then the company was called Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Media and then all of a sudden one day they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, oh, hey, by the way, we just got

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<v Speaker 1>bought by iHeartRadio. You work for them now? And we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, yep, cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I don't know nothing to do here, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how life is. And you're in media.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're in media, you know, I really I really

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<v Speaker 1>like our team. And that's all I'm gonna say about that. Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>Can you give us a cat update?

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<v Speaker 2>Cat update? I mean, they're cats, so very little changes

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<v Speaker 2>in their day to day life. If things are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's many questions about your cat then just you

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<v Speaker 1>know anything interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Saddam Hussein had a problem two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you telling this story?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he tried to have There's a blanket he likes

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<v Speaker 2>to have sex with that's usually on my couch. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he's been he's been neutered, but he still tries

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<v Speaker 2>to have sex with it. And that blanket got a

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<v Speaker 2>seed that's like a sharp seed. It's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>seeds that's like sticks to your pants in it, and

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<v Speaker 2>he managed to get wedged inside his urethra and it

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<v Speaker 2>nearly killed him. But he's fine now, fine, Now. There

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been reoccurrences of any urinary shoes, which are very

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<v Speaker 2>serious in male cats. If your male cat isn't peeing,

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<v Speaker 2>get it to the vet immediately. Hours matter, hours matter.

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<v Speaker 1>The most amazing thing about that story is I once

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<v Speaker 1>made Robert during this time, shortly after after we knew

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm the same, it's gonna be okay. Uh, join

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<v Speaker 1>a call with a well, let's just call him an

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment person that was not being a chill guy, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember this story on a project we decided

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<v Speaker 1>we ultimately decided not to work on.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, decided to work on.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was like it was going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>very unpleasant phone call. And Robert gets on and Robert

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<v Speaker 1>has maybe spoken to this man for ten seconds once,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, hey, how's it going, Robert? And Robert's like,

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<v Speaker 1>my cat got a seed stuck up his urethra. And

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<v Speaker 1>I really treasured that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so do I That.

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<v Speaker 1>Was beautiful for me. Let's do let's do one more.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I love questions. I love answers. I love answering questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I love questioning answers. You know all of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>A good time, Robert Sophie.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I say your name with who

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<v Speaker 1>else would I be asking? I mean, besides Anderson? Anderson? No,

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<v Speaker 1>what activities do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>This is for both of us. What activities do y'all

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<v Speaker 1>do to ease your mental health after researching and hearing

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<v Speaker 1>about awful things?

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<v Speaker 2>That's an option.

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<v Speaker 1>This is mine. This is my answer right here, this

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful dog I'm holding and for the audio only people,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm holding up Anderson and she looks quite beautiful. You

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<v Speaker 1>should do.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, tragically, I've been sober for a while, and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be staying sober. So I just get depressed and then

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<v Speaker 2>get better and better at shooting a gun. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>I spend my free time.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ, do you want that on the internet?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You could have. You could have said,

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<v Speaker 1>I go for runs most days.

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<v Speaker 2>I go for runs most days. I lift weights, I

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<v Speaker 2>push body armor and high firing a handgun. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>do all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>You have farm animals that are wonderfully magical.

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<v Speaker 2>I do have farm animals in which I trained hitting

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<v Speaker 2>moving targets in the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>You have wonderful friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sometimes I trained shooting stuff in the woods with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Your business partner is a very supportive person.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, lots of that. I missed drugs, Sophie. I

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<v Speaker 2>hate being sober, but it's okay. I've been doing it

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<v Speaker 2>for years. I'll keep it up. It's just miserable.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, buddy, Well, give the people a Boston rob and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll be on our way.

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<v Speaker 2>And boy, you've Boston nnkey? Is that good enough for

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<v Speaker 2>you people? Does that make you happy? Is that what

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<v Speaker 2>you want? No one's ever happy when they get what

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<v Speaker 2>they want.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back on Thursday with another round of questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Questions, Robert, So how they say it in Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, Robert, what percentage of them do you love?

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<v Speaker 1>The number went down from forty that's for fucking sure.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's probably still about right. That's close close enough

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<v Speaker 2>for government.

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<v Speaker 1>Work for me. Thirty two percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty two percent. Wow, you guys really got to pump

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<v Speaker 2>your Sophie numbers up. I don't know. I feel fine

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<v Speaker 2>about our fans, you know, Look, there's a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and so some chunk of them are always going to

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<v Speaker 2>be doing something weird and off putting. But usually when

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<v Speaker 2>I encounter our fans, it's in the context of them

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<v Speaker 2>like doing something nice that's helpful to people out in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, Like run into a lot of fans handing

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<v Speaker 2>out food, run into a lot of fans being street medics,

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<v Speaker 2>run into a lot of fans protesting genocide. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>generally very positive towards our fans, especially the ones who

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<v Speaker 2>are a forkliff certified. You are really the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>we do this for. You know, whenever I close my

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<v Speaker 2>eyes before sitting down to write an episode that I

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<v Speaker 2>know is going to really take it out of me,

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<v Speaker 2>I thank to you guys driving your forklifts, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know that that gives me the fuel I need to

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<v Speaker 2>go on.

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