WEBVTT - Ep. 384: Gear Talk - Episode 2 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:18.280 Welcome to Gear Talk. Your Talk is a podcast where 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.760 Jordan's Bud and I, to be honest to tell us, 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:27.640 are going to your guessed it talk about gear, anything 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:32.080 and everything about gear. What we like about it, we 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.680 don't like about it, what's new, what's old, how we 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:40.120 use it, learned stuff that we don't know about gear 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.960 and how it's made, you name it. We're gonna have 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:49.800 segments where gear experts call in and help us, you know, 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.640 learn things about gear and understand gear. And when I 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.760 say gear too, I want to clarify that it's gonna 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:03.840 be everything from clothing, hats to boots, you know, hunting gear, 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:09.000 from guns to archery equipment. Chance that you might use, 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.720 you know, just backpacking or sleeping in you know, nives 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.520 that you're using to cut up your animals. We might 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.040 get even get into fishing gear sometimes if we get 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:22.920 a wild hair up our asses. Uh, it's endless. Yeah, 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.280 I think we should talk about we should talk about 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:29.880 trucks sometimes too. I think so too. Sideboy, Oh I 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:32.880 like it, don't I'm going Yeah, I'm going after this. 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.880 I'm literally going to sign the paperwork on my canadon sick. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.800 Which would you go with I got a Defender HD 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.639 nine and x T and then put a put doors 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.280 and windshield and the heater in it, so it'll be 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.120 pretty It would be pretty sweet, dude. I didn't do 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.640 heater and mine because I went with the with the 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.840 single bench with the six ft bed and it just 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.080 doesn't come standard with it, and I didn't think to 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.200 add it on. And that was my one mistake. And 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.560 mine is actually at the shop right now getting a 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.799 heat or put in because you don't realize that when 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.120 you're working in it in cold temps that if you 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.079 don't have heat in there. There's two things you can do. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.200 One you can keep the windows all rolled up and 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.360 basically frost yourself inside there and you can't see anything. 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.160 Or you have to keep the windows down and be 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.280 like running goggles and whatever so that you can keep 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.680 you know, the same you know, temp in and out 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.160 so that you don't you know, frost over your windshield 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:36.600 and uh anyways, yeah, good move on getting the heater. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:38.560 But is that is that version you got? Is that 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:42.560 with the two benches, No, it's just with the single Yeah, 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.040 so I can. I've got a trailer that I use 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.120 now for like hunting and camping in But part of 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:50.760 the reason I did it is so I could put 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.639 the side by side in it and two benches won't fit, 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.400 so just a single bench and it's just nicer to 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.520 get in and out of tight spots. I think, Yes, definitely, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.760 there's a lot to be said for that. I'm so 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.440 impressed by those things. Man Like they when there is 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:09.239 a spot where where it really does behoove you to 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.079 be in a side by side like it makes they 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.560 excel so hard and make the hunt so much easier. 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.800 And it's mostly just comes down to like there's there's 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:23.200 x amount of day hours in a day, and you 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.480 want to use them as efficiently as possible. And when 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.680 you're ripping around traveling, doesn't matter what vehicle you're in 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.520 or on, you're not hunting. And if it takes me 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.440 an hour to get to the spot in my truck 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:38.880 or twenty minutes in the can am, then by Gali, 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.240 I'm getting more sleep, I'm getting more hunting and you know, 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:46.800 less windshield time, which is absolutely great. But again it's 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.200 like sometimes you can get there faster in a truck, 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.200 right because maybe you're on the highway for twenty miles, 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.760 But in places where you're gonna have to rip like 0:03:54.800 --> 0:04:00.480 a bumpy, rocky dirt road. It's not in good addition 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.880 where if you're in your truck you're just like, oh 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.680 my gosh, I can't believe I'm doing this to my truck. Uh. 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.120 That is where those canams just excel and you can 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:14.000 just jam down them and uh get or done. And uh, 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.159 I mean there's obviously all the other benefits to Like 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:20.080 you talked about getting in and out of tight spots, Um, 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.800 what are you mostly going to use it for hunting? 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:27.200 For sure? So I think especially late season, there's a 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.960 lot of these hunts we're doing. It's like roadside camp hunts, 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.760 and a lot of the access could be on just 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:37.680 side by side trails and uh man, I've seen people 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.240 they're just on four wheelers or even other side by 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:44.599 side that don't have doors and stuff that after a 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.320 couple of days of grinding it out in the super 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.000 cold weather, you don't really want to go out and 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.279 hunt anymore. So that's that was so my reasoning for 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.240 I went the extra mile through cab On, And because 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.719 I know that it's going to add the extra level 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.800 of comfort, and so I'm gonna want to go in it, 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:06.119 and that's just gonna let you be in the field longer. 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.640 You know, we used to when I got it a 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:13.800 little bit down in Mexico for j Scott and uh. 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:16.520 In those days, the side by side that he had 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.680 and the one that darr had both did not have 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.560 windshields or doors or whatever. You know, he might have 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.279 had like a roof, but you would bring down a 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.880 hole even though, like you're in hunting in Mexican January, 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.159 which it can get kind of cold, you know, maybe 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.920 into the thirties, but you would bring a whole extra 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:38.039 set of clothes just for traveling in the side by side, 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.640 and we I mean big warm hat, big puffy jacket 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:47.000 over you know, insulated you know, overall bibbs, goggles, you know, 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:51.360 face masks, giant mittens or gloves to keep yourself warm 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.600 because yeah, you know you're going for like a twenty 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.920 two sixty minute rip sometimes in that open air it 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:03.120 you know, thirty degrees and man, it can just chill 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.839 you to the bone. Yeah, before you didn't get to 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:09.440 where you're supposed to start hunting, yeah, exactly, and then 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.280 you're like, oh, this is a nice way to start, 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:15.400 just freezing cold. All right, we we've diverged. But there 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.960 you go. That is a little like snippet of what 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:22.480 you can expect. Jordan I talking gear, all kinds of 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:26.560 gear and everything you know about it. You know, like 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.280 I said, top to bottom, how it's made, how to 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.360 make it better, and speaking of making it better, one 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.800 of the things that we're gonna do, it's not exactly 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.560 clear how we're gonna do. It's gonna be a work 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:41.960 in progress. But we're gonna bring you along on the ride. 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:43.880 And I guess you could call it. Some people might 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.520 not consider a ride, but you're gonna get to hear 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:51.239 how first light product is made and what's being made, 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.360 Like what's being made that you have any you don't 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:58.440 even know that it even exists in first Light uh, 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.320 in the in the creator room, you know, where the 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.040 where the designs first come up, the stuff that we've 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.800 been talking about, because it takes years from when a 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:11.280 product comes like if someone thinks about a new jacket 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.040 until that new jacket can actually be sold to somebody, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.760 literally years two to three years on most products. So 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.480 we're gonna bring you along in that process. A couple 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:26.080 of reasons, one being that Jordan I already do it. 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.400 We participate in this process with first Light and it 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.120 makes us uh, you know, it's just gets us involved 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.160 and our input helps, you know, make this gear hopefully 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.360 better and be the gear that we want to use 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.840 when it's done. Um. So we're already talking about it. 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.920 We figured we should be talking about it with you. UM. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:50.080 We also want to let you guys bring your UH 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.679 knowledge and expertise ideas to us to help that gear better. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.119 So we're gonna have it's not gonna quite be a forum. Um. 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.240 At the minimum, we're gonna start off with basic, clean 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:04.120 email address that you can write into us if you 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:08.040 have questions about first Light gear or ideas for first 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.040 Light to you know, use freak gear, whatever it might be. Man, 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.320 we want it all the good, the bad, and the ugly, 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.440 and we're gonna address it. We're gonna take it to 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:20.600 first Light and have the experts there address it whatever 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.480 it might be. And then lastly, we're gonna do all 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:28.800 this as sort of a way to hopefully make everybody 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.920 okay with the fact that we're not going to be 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:38.400 probably discussing too much and reviewing or whatever dissecting gear 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:42.720 that is made by UH competitors like could you Sitka, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.640 you know, Cabela's, whatever else it might be out there. Right, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.440 it's no surprise that the company that Jordan I work for, 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:55.760 Meat Eater, owns first Light, they own f HF, they 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.680 own Felps game Calls. So in the idea in the 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.320 name of just trying to make it fun for everybody, 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.600 because I don't want to just do a podcast where 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:10.160 we're basically doing a commercial for first Light all the time. UM, 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.480 I want to make it where you're learning something about, 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.680 you know, how gears made. It's just gonna be from 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:19.240 probably a person that is making first Light here. Um, 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.520 you're gonna learn about the process of a jacket that's 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.160 you know, coming down the pike from first Light. But 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.440 again you're gonna learn about the process and you're gonna 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.880 be able to be involved. You're gonna hear what's happening. Um. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:31.920 It's a big step for first Light to kind of 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:36.880 do this because it opens you up to um, you know, 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:41.320 as vulnerabilities associated there. Right, competitors can see what you're 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.960 doing and can copy you. They can try to you know, 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.120 beat you to the release of a certain product that 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.600 you're doing. They can maybe just take an idea or 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.280 like a certain one detail of an idea and you know, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:59.040 use that in their you know, version of set thing. Um. Anyways, 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:01.520 I think it's gonna be on. I think like I'm 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.160 gonna learn a lot. You're gonna learn a lot Jordan's 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.720 and hopefully the listeners are gonna learn a lot. And um, 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.800 it'll be interesting, you know, and uh hopefully you all 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.480 feel like invested in it, you know. And like I said, 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.800 it's a long process. So don't think just because you're 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.200 right in tomorrow and you say, man, really you'd like 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.080 to see a hood that you can see out of 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:24.560 the back end the front, I don't think that like 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.840 next year you're gonna see a jacket, uh that you 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:31.199 know that has holes out, you know, peeping holes out 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.520 the back of the hood. It's a long process, but 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.520 we're gonna kind of keep you updated, you know, with 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:42.040 what's coming, what we're working on, what we've been testing, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.559 what we like this, that and the other. Do you 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.760 want to add anything to that? Yeah, I mean it's 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.840 gonna be it's gonna be so much fun. I geek 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.480 out on this stuff. I love hearing about it. Um, 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.720 I think what I'm most looking forward to is like 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.120 the micro review of a lot of things we just 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.400 had Matt de Rosa. I'm talking about seam tape. Uh, 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.480 little things like that, how jackets are put together, how 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.839 any like think of any gear thing, if we can 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.000 dive into it and talk about like the parts of 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.120 that and how they all work together. That's not I 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.400 mean every company does a little bit different, but that's 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.679 not like very companies specific. That's just how like we 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:24.200 can provide a value to the listeners just giving them 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.800 the knowledge to know what they're looking at when they 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.920 go into a store or when they're looking at something 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.000 or hearing about a piece of gear, and they can 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.320 better make a decision based on the knowledge that we 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.839 can provide for them. Yeah. Yeah, we want to help 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.640 you make good decisions about the gear you buy. Obviously, 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.280 we hope you buy some first Light, but if you 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:47.120 choose to go with another company's gear, uh, that's okay too. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.440 But hopefully you feel that like, because what you learned 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:55.120 from Jordan's or what you learned from Matt Derosier's about 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.240 seam tape, next time you go into the store, you're 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.720 gonna flip a jacket inside out and go oh, yeah, 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:04.000 that's what they were talking about. And look they you know, 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.560 did or do not do that thing that Matt was 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.559 talking about and just make you like a more educated consumer, 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:13.520 which is cool. Yeah, Okay, So that's what we're doing 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:17.240 with First Light in this podcast, and you'll kind of 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.640 hear the same thing with you know, we'll treat f 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.920 HF and and Phelps game calls the same way as 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.760 much as we can. Sometimes with it seems like with 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.040 game calls, there's a lot of patents that I'm always 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:33.040 hearing about, and so sometimes we just will have to 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:37.439 stay mum about a certain subject because Jason's waiting on 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:42.320 a patent to be um fulfilled. Um. But you'll be 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.080 the first to know here for a lot of cool stuff. Yeah, 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:47.920 it's so exciting. Yeah, anything else you want to say 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:52.360 just in general about our fancy new gear podcast, Man, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.200 I don't think so. I think the uh, the options 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.400 are endless as far as what we can talk about. 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.520 Everything and anything that's involved in going on a hunt 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.079 or being on a hunt we can talk about. So 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:15.040 I'm excited for it. All right. Now for our Gear 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:19.800 Expert segment where Jordan and I have folks call in 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.360 um that are in the industry that know a lot 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.880 more about certain pieces of gear or groups of gear 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:30.800 than we do, and have him explain something to us 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.160 so we can learn something, maybe how our gear works better, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.600 how to take care of it better, whatever it might be. 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:44.040 Today we have Mark Boardman from Vortex Optics here to 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:48.760 talk diopters. Mark, tell me what you're doing over at 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.079 Vortex these days, how you're doing, and then we'll jump 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.640 into diopters. So yeah, man, I appreciate, appreciate you're having 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.520 me on. So yeah, man, Mark Boardman Vortex Optics been 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.640 in the mark any department in various capacities for going 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.200 on fourteen years now, so we've known each other for 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.120 a long time. Yahnus and Meteator crew, so it's super cool. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.760 Um Yeah, I focus primarily on our podcast now. So 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:15.880 that's uh, that's what I That's what I spent a 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.440 lot of my time. You're so you're a podcast house now, 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.720 that's that's why we got all the fancy equipment. Nice, 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.200 you're a long time you're a long time listener, then 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:31.560 I take it listen. You can't get mad at me 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.360 from not listening, because I don't listen to any podcast 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.840 that I personally produce. I don't know if you listen. 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.720 That's a question for you. Do you listen to the 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:45.080 podcast you produce? Uh, for editing purposes and things like that. Yes, 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:50.480 But once I asked that to Joe Rogan, he said, nope, Yeah, 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.840 I have to generally, I remember like pretty good. But 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.600 like you know, sometimes I'll go back and listen, like 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.000 if we haven't written like the copy for the description, 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.280 like I'll kind of go back and scan through. But yeah, 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.320 I don't. I don't like, I'm not fully like you know, 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:04.080 I'm not that into myself, and I'm like, I better 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:08.120 go listen to myself somewhere today. Yeah, I just I seriously, 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.600 I just don't have I don't like to listen to 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.360 stuff when I run, which should be a great time 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.040 to listen to podcasts and music, but I like to 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.200 listen to the wind and the birds. So, uh, you know, 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.240 but listen. I'm telling you, I'm driving to Michigan here 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:22.920 in a couple of weeks, I'm gonna listen to the 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.840 Vortex podcast. Man. I appreciate that that's the time to 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.400 crush a podcast. Man, My commute is about an hour 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.040 both ways, so I crush a fair amount of podcasts, 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:35.280 so uh so, yeah, I can, I can. I can 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.400 clean up pretty good. All right, let's jump to diopters. 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.720 Um we're supposed to be talking about. Yeah, the topic, 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:46.280 yea yea. Everybody knows should know that there's a diopter 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.960 dial or two, which I think Mark's is gonna explain 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.160 hopefully for us on your binoculars, and you're supposed to 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.600 dial them and set them to make the binoculars work 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:59.320 better for your eyes. That's pretty much my sort of 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.640 taken under standing on it, and but I'm always unsure 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:06.080 when I said it, if I'm doing it properly. Jordan's 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.440 what about you? Are you kind of in the same 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.360 boat or do you feel like when you dial your 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:13.360 diopter you're dialed. I feel like I'm pretty dialed. Uh. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.600 Sometimes I feel like I have to adjust it, Like 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.600 from hunt to hunt, I feel like I'll readjusted or 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.840 even from day to day um or readjust it. But yeah, 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:25.280 it's just like an individual focus for each eye that. Uh, 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.600 I think a lot of people actually overlooked, don't even 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.720 know about it. Yeah, I mean, I think I mean 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:31.960 you guys, you know you stole my thunder no, Um, 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.200 but yeah, I mean you nailed it. I mean essentially, 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:37.960 what a die opter is dealing, it's h adjusting for 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.200 variants in your eyes. You have two eyes, they're gonna 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.800 be a little bit different, right, So it's adjusting and 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:48.240 making sure the binocular is focused to accommodate, you know, 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.640 essentially the vision in both of your eyes. In general, 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.800 i'd say most commonly, you're gonna see a right eye 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.240 die opter. So it's gonna be a ring that's located 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:03.200 on the right I pase of your binocular. Um. With 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.960 that ring, you're gonna see a scale right, so you're 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.040 gonna see like a kind of like a zero reference mark, uh, 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.320 and then a plus or a minus, and then kind 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.919 of some like uh, some adjustment graduations to kind of 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.119 you know, be able to take note of where you've 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.920 adjusted that. Um. Oftentimes it will be a locking diopter, 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.679 so that ring will pop up to to unlock it 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.680 and make those adjustments. Once you've made that adjustment, pop 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.280 it back down, lock it in. You definitely want to 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:34.439 unlock it though before you make that adjustment, because um, 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.600 you can damage the binocular. So we get we get that. 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:42.200 You know, some people at times people the damn diopter stuck. 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.040 It's like, no, I just need to unlock it. But 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.320 we'll fix that for you. Um but yeah, so, like 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:51.320 I said, and then outside of you know, adjusting it 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.080 to accommodate for for the you know, this discrepancy, your 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.720 variance between your two eyes, you can also use it 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:00.879 to make sure I guess it's kind of doing two 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.280 things at once when it's set properly. It's going to 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.600 make sure that things are coming in and out of 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:09.239 focus at exactly the same time when you're using just 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.600 the center focus wheel. Right, So, and there's kind of 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.400 a check that you can do, like after you've set 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:18.440 your diopter, to confirm that everything is working properly. If 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.000 that makes sense, then we can kind of go into 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.080 how to set your diopter because that's, you know, its 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:26.040 own process. Yeah, that does make sense. How come most 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:31.000 binoculars are only one I for the diopter? Oh man, 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.960 now you're now you're asking the tough questions you honest, 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.520 I never asked why. I just I just learned how 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:41.000 to use the darn things. So, um right, I was 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.000 gonna say, yeah, and in some in some instances I'd 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:46.960 see you'd see it largely or I'd say more commonly, 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.159 at least in my experience, on like a poorer prism 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:54.359 style binocular UM where you have individual I focus. I 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:58.000 think that can be an asset for people that maybe 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.639 have a high degree of variants, you know, between the 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.600 vision and both of their eyes. UM. But yeah, most 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.520 commonly you're gonna see just just the single right eye 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.719 die opter some and and really every binocular in our 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.520 lineup is going to have that. I'd say an exception 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.399 to that would be our Fury HD range finding binocular 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.639 which has the radical focus on the right eye piece 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:22.960 and then the die opter is on the left eye piece. 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.520 But that's that's the one exception in our lineup. Uh. 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.840 You know, if you step outside the vortex lineups the 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.320 lineup of binoculars, sometimes you'll see a center die opter 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:36.080 that's actually kind of like integrated into the focus wheel. UM. 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:39.560 But the process for setting it will be the same 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.720 as you know, just a standard right eye die opter. Okay, 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.080 so let's talk about setting it and tell me real 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.479 quick if you don't set it, like, what are you losing? 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.840 What's going wrong with when you're using your binoculars? I mean, 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.160 you know, if if you don't have it set properly, 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:59.240 you know, depending on your personal vision, like you know, 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:04.800 you might just have, um, just a less desirable optical 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.600 experience overall, like just stuff like is isn't gonna be 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.920 in focus for like, you know, both of your eyes. 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.359 It's easy to set it's it's definitely i'd say most 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.760 you know, all of our binoculars you know, have have 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.840 a die opter um and it's it's it is something 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.119 you're gonna want to pay attention to. Um. For me, 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.760 I'm pretty lucky personally. Um, you know, I can essentially 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.320 just set it on the zero mark and you know, 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:32.520 my division of both my eyes is like pretty similar, 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:34.240 so I'd be good to go. But I still set 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:35.959 it though, because you're gonna find that you're gonna want 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:37.680 to shave generally, you know, either a little bit to 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.320 the the riot or left of that zero mark. And 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.320 setting it is just it's so easy. It's just something 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:43.920 that that you want to do, and if you haven't 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:45.960 been paying attention to it, you might find that your 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:49.720 you know, your overall viewing experience is enhanced once you do. 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.280 All right, tell us how to set it so to 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.480 set your diopter you know, and This is like you said, 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:56.639 we've got you know, I've got one in front of 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:59.200 you right now. It's it's a it's a canna raise 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.119 your uh D. On my forty two, one of my 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:03.720 favorites has got a locking right eye die opter, like 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.480 we talked about before. But you're going to want to 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.480 uh close your right eye, So you're going to close 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:14.160 your right eye or cover uh cover the uh cover 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.320 the the ocular there. Um, I always just close my 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:19.000 right eye. Some some people kind of have a problem 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:20.359 with that. That That makes them squin a little bit. So 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:21.960 you can just you know, cover in some capacity. But 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:25.280 you're gonna so you're gonna cover the the right ocular 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:27.960 or close your right eye, and then you're gonna focus 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.399 on an object I'd say an objectle with you know, 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:35.320 um maybe a high level of detail. You yards away 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:38.800 with your left eye, and you'll roll roll the center 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:43.919 focus wheel until that object is in sharp focus. And 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:47.159 then once you do that, unlock the die opter if 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:51.080 it's a walking die opter, close your left eye, and 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:55.560 then use the die opter to adjust the focus until 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:59.160 it's as sharp as possible on that same object. Once 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:02.600 you get that, lock it back down in and I 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:06.120 mean essentially your diopter is set. I see, so you're 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:11.080 basically that's how you're matching the two. You focus the 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.600 left one and then you're focusing the right one with 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:17.480 the diopter, and that's how you're matching the two. So they're, oh, 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:19.679