1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys headquarters at the. 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: Star and Frisco. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: And now your host, Zach Woolchuck. 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 4: Welcome on into the Draft Show, forty nine days away 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 4: from the NFL Draft, Episode nineteen. Watch out, Kyle, you 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 4: heard that intro. They're the host, Zach Walchuck. Oh, just 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 4: keeping the seawarm, baby, I'm here with Voch Lombardi. Brian 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 4: brought us. Bobby Belt was supposed to be with us today. 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: He is sick, so he's got that flu. The crud 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: is going around, so make sure you send him some 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 4: Bobby some well wishes. Of course, big shout out to 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 4: Nick Harris, Tommy Yarish, Aisha Morrison who stepped in last 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 4: week as well. We love everybody who's a part of 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 4: this thing. But let's get right to it. 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 5: Boys. 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 4: We had the retirement of Zach Martin yesterday, and one 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: of the big takeaways for me that Zack Martin was 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 4: talking about was one when he came in in his 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 4: rookie year, this was a run heavy team, right. You 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 4: had DeMarco Murray and he did have the pleasure of 23 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 4: already stepping in and having a line that had guys 24 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 4: like Travis Frederick and Tyron Smith and Ron Leary was 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 4: a stud and Doug Free was a veteran player. But 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 4: one of the things he said that helped him was 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 4: that they really were run heavy and instead of lining 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 4: up and throwing the football thirty to forty times, like 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 4: he got to focus on the run and that helped 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 4: him kind of ease in. And he changed positions right 31 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 4: he was a tackle at Notre Dame. Now he had 32 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 4: played really every single spot along the line of scrimmage, 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: but now he's moving over to right guard. So one 34 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: that made me excited for Tyler Geiton because it does 35 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: seem like the stress is let's get the run game 36 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: going with Clayton Adams and coach Riley at the offensive line, 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 4: maybe that'll help Tyler Guyton going into year two. 38 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 5: But also at right guard. If you look at Okay, 39 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 5: now you. 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: Got Brack Hoffman back exclusive rights free agent, he's signed, 41 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: he's going to be competing for that spot. You think 42 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 4: we should be looking a little bit more at guard 43 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: than we had in the past. 44 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: Fellas, I just know the internets and shambles right now. 45 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: But let's just have a discussion. Okay, let's just have 46 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: a civilized discussion. Let me just set the table for this. 47 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: A little bit brought us, Zach, how much? How much 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: is too much investment on your offensive line? Because that's 49 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: the conversation that's just going around. Hey man, we got 50 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: two first round picks already, we got a third rounder, 51 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: and we got two undrafted guys. And what they'll do 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: is they'll they'll point the other teams like, hey man, 53 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: this team only got a couple of twos or three 54 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: and maybe they got a one. And when the Cowboys 55 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: were in their glory days, we had three firsts and 56 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: they were all Pro Pro Bowl. Give him a jacket 57 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: Travis probably would have been a jacket guy, but you 58 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: know he left a little late. So fellas with this 59 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: offensive line currently constructed, because it's people on the internet saying, 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: hey man, what about what about Nathan Thomas? What about 61 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: can Austin Richard step in? Right? What is too much 62 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: investment for y'all? It's three first round picks too much? Now? 63 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: Should we you know, second third? Should we just go 64 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: with the undrafted or the seventh round guys and try 65 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: to make that work. Brian Zach, please help me out, 66 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: because I'm I'll take Tyler Booker at twelve right now 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: and put them right there. But apparently three first round 68 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 2: picks is way too much to him just to be 69 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: in visiting Joland. 70 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, to me, where the one thing that 71 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 6: this line coach and I don't know so much about 72 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 6: the Kansas State with coach Riley, I know that he 73 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 6: works well with probably less talent players than other teams 74 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 6: in the country and gets a lot out of it. 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 6: They're very physical run offense the way you know, we've 76 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 6: all evaluated and induced faun and we saw that and 77 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 6: how they operate, and then we did BB and we 78 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 6: so there's an element of that. I think that you're 79 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 6: in a situation right now, though where I'm not a 80 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 6: huge fan of currently what you got at right guard. 81 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 6: I'm not a currently I'm not a fan of the 82 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 6: Hoffman and the bass and that if you tell me 83 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 6: that I can add a Booker or a Donovan Jackson 84 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 6: or somebody like that, or if I can move one 85 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 6: of these tackles to play inside, I'll address that. And 86 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 6: I'm I don't think it's ever too much for offensive Linemen. 87 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 6: These coaches might prove me wrong. They might be able 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 6: to take Hoffman and Bass and others and make it work. 89 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: I don't know that yet. 90 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 6: My indications are that I've saw Arizona do more with less, 91 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 6: saw Kansas State do more with less. Maybe these are 92 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 6: more than less coaches. I circle back to the you 93 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 6: know when Zach, when you open this up, you know, 94 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 6: talking about the guys that were here that you know 95 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 6: with Martin said, run heavy. That's Bill Callahan running gay Moses. Sure, 96 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 6: you know, that's a guy that took not many people 97 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 6: thought much about Ron Leary. Ron Leary had a bad, 98 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 6: bad need that kept him from getting drafted. But look 99 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 6: what he did. He took Doug Free ron Leary. I mean, yeah, 100 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 6: you had some first round guys, some very talented Hall 101 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 6: of Fame type players to go around that. But I'm 102 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 6: I'm I wish I could answer the question. I personally 103 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 6: would draft a guard. But because I don't know yet 104 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 6: what these coaches are, I have an idea from Afar. 105 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: But if I'm sitting in that personnel. 106 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 6: Room, I'm thinking, Okay, these guys are gonna tell me 107 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 6: they can coach. They can coach these guys Okay, I've 108 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 6: seen their film. It looks like they can coach these guys. 109 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 6: I'm gonna try and help them a little bit. I'm 110 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna look at Tyler Booker, I'm 111 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 6: gonna look at at Donovan Jackson. 112 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna look. 113 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 6: At Kate Ratle, I'm gonna look at I'm gonna look 114 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 6: at these guys because if I evaluate the film from 115 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 6: last year and nothing against with Bass and none against 116 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 6: nothing against them, But I don't know. I think I 117 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 6: could do better. I think I can do better. But 118 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 6: maybe these coaches are the difference makers. Maybe that maybe 119 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 6: next year at this time when we asked this question, 120 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 6: it's going to be like, no, I don't worry about 121 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 6: you don't have to you don't have to have one 122 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 6: of the best linemen in the country. 123 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: Because these guys will get Look what they did. 124 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 6: Will Hernandez, she was talking with the guy with the 125 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 6: Giants about Will Hernandez and their you know, second round pick, 126 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 6: but you know, and ended up being really a bus 127 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 6: for the for the Giants. He goes to place for 128 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 6: the Arizona Cardinals. We're talking about potentially signing him as 129 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 6: one of those Tier two, Tier three free agents, right, 130 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 6: So to me, you know, there's something to be said 131 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 6: about coaches, but I think I want to help these guys. 132 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 6: I think I want to help these coaches, you know, 133 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 6: with if I can add another piece there? Do I 134 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 6: want to do it at twelve. I'm probably not really 135 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 6: comfortable doing it there, but I am comfortable doing it 136 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 6: at some point. 137 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 4: I'd be comfortable with book at twelve, I would be. 138 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 4: I do love Donovan Jackson. I've talked about that here. 139 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 4: I think Booker is more of the plug and play 140 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 4: guard because he's done it on the right side. I mean, 141 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 4: you talk about dominant in the run game, knocks people 142 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 4: off the ball, can mirror lineman get to the second level. 143 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 5: I know he didn't test right at the combine. I 144 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 5: don't care about. 145 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: That that that's not a big difference maker for me. 146 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 4: And in the second round, I think you do have 147 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: some options. I mean you brought up Tate Ratleige. That's 148 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 4: another dude, Maler. I do think pad level can be 149 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: an issue with him, but a three year starter at 150 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: Georgia and then a guy at offensive tackle that I 151 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 4: think is gonna play guard from Arizona Jonah Savaina, and 152 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: I might have butchered his last name. I apologized, But 153 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a dude who played, grew up, went 154 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: to high school in Honolulu, three star recruit, team captain. 155 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 4: He's got a wide base, strong punch, can get off balance, 156 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 4: which I do think will hurt his hand placement. But 157 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: that's another guy that I like. The awareness he plays 158 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: with in the run game. I think that he's tough 159 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: to get around. He projects much better as an inside 160 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: player for me. Wyatt Milam another guy that I'd throw 161 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 4: out there that we've talked about on the show as well, 162 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: who I'm a big fan of. The guard from West Virginia, 163 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: started thirty two to thirty six games, including thirty. 164 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 5: One in a row. He was the Iron Mountaineer Award. 165 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 5: I mean, you got some options. 166 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be at twelve, and there are 167 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: some when you look at Donovan Jackson from Ohio State, 168 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 4: maybe he's able to slide to you there at forty four. 169 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 4: But the dude who's really I mean at twelve, I 170 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: think that we get a lot of questions about is 171 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: armand Memboo from Miszoo, And when I watch his game, 172 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: I do see maybe some similarities to Tyler Smith athletically. Now, 173 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: I do think he's a right side player, right guard, 174 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 4: right tackle. I think he's athletic enough to play tackle, 175 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: but I want to keep him on that side. 176 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 7: Now. 177 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: I don't know that he's making it to twelve, but 178 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 4: if he's there, I think the two conversations we would 179 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: have in the first round would be Memboo at twelve, 180 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: Adam Miszoo and Booker from Bama. I think those would 181 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 4: probably be the only two in play and unless you 182 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: guys wanted to argue for somebody else there. 183 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: As far as Mimboo, I don't even see him as 184 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: a as a guard really. I think I think he's 185 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: a tackle. I think he's a he's a great mover 186 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: past blocker. Now, if you're one of these teams that's 187 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: you know, gonna you know, run a lot of wide 188 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: zone and you need the athletes, then sure put him 189 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: at guard and let him do the athlete thing. And 190 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: that's where we just don't know. We just don't fully 191 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: know what Dallas wants to do right now, run game wise, 192 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: right But it's just that, look, man, Tyler book is 193 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: just made He's made of all the guard stuff that 194 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: I like, man, Like just driving people off the football 195 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: makes me smile at night. And and and just one 196 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: more thing I want to bring to the you know, 197 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: to the conversation though, felas like, yes, you know, something 198 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: may be good enough. You know, this player may be 199 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: good enough, or just the guys that we have and 200 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: just like saying, hey, such and such step up. That 201 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: may be good enough. Right, are we a team that's 202 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: trying to be good enough or are we trying to 203 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: be filling them? Are we trying to be franded? 204 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 7: Now? 205 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 6: You need to figure out this division has big insight people. 206 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: You need to be damn good. 207 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, there's no question you cannot suffer at 208 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 6: guard play and center play in this division. You can't 209 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 6: and you'll get exposed for it. And so yeah, you 210 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 6: know the talkata guard at twelve though, to me is it? 211 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 6: I understand it. I completely understand it, And but I 212 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 6: don't know if I can go that route. 213 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: So Brian, let's talk if this team right, Jerry Steven 214 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: and company. They surprised the hell out of us. Boy, 215 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: They go and get a couple receivers. They get a 216 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: wide receiver one B and another complimentary guy and boy, 217 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: we got a running back that we're proud of, and boy, 218 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: they fill this roster out and we legitimately can walk 219 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: into the draft drafting whatever. Not I drafted, no disrespect, 220 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: not I drafted Nolan Carroll, were going to play corner? 221 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: Not that like we got dudes. Hypothetically, Jerry blew us away, 222 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 2: would you then consider God? Because I do understand the 223 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: pushback I get when I say, oh, yeah, draft of guard, 224 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: draft a tackle. They say, but vice, what about No? 225 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: I understand what about running back? I get that. What 226 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: if all that is set for you and you go, damn, 227 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: running back is gone. McMillan is going, Burton is going. 228 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: The best player just happened to beat his guard. 229 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: Can I take them? No, I totally understand what you're doing. 230 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna throw another position out to you 231 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 6: that I think that you probably need to think about more. 232 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 6: Is that corner corner. I mean, if you're telling me 233 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 6: that it comes down to a guard or a corner 234 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 6: at twelve, I'm probably taking that damn corner. 235 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: I just don't want to get into a position where 236 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 4: we're like, man, we need to fill this spot. I 237 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: think that's where they get in trouble. I think if 238 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: the corner is higher on your board, I. 239 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 6: Think I think there's going to be I think I'm 240 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 6: going to feel better about a corner first round corner 241 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 6: at twelve than I am taking a guard at twelve. 242 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: You you'd feel bad about Will Johnson than Tyler Booker. 243 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: I would feel I would, Okay. 244 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: This ain't Baron. See this is the problem. 245 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. 246 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 5: No, don't think the cowboys would take Baron over. 247 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 6: See this, this is okay, this is the problem, because 248 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 6: this is the problem is for me, I would absolutely 249 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 6: not take Will Johnson over a guard. Sure, them, I 250 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 6: can't control with them is doing over there. I'm just 251 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 6: telling you what I would do. Yeah, And and what 252 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 6: if they take if they take Will Johnson over that guard, 253 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 6: then there could be a discussion. 254 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: They're like, well they they this is obviously what they thought. 255 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 6: Me personally, I am not taking Will Johnson over any 256 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 6: any guard you tell me. 257 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: And I'm I'm the guy. 258 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 6: And I don't get me wrong about about Booker. I 259 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 6: think Jackson, the Ohio State guard, is better, is a 260 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 6: better player, and I and he's cleaning his head guy, 261 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 6: and I you know, but if you told me that 262 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 6: we were taken. If we're sitting in that room and 263 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 6: I stood in there and I was fighting for a 264 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 6: corner because I know we don't have one right now, 265 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 6: there's just there's no Now, we'll see what happens. They're 266 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 6: trying to get some deals done. If you can get 267 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 6: Lewis done, if you could get some other things done. 268 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 6: Right but right now, I mean Diggs. You know, if 269 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 6: Carson would have played better, I would have felt better 270 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 6: about the position. I don't feel better about that position 271 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 6: right now. Do I feel great about guard? 272 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: Hell? No, I don't feel great about guard right. 273 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: That's the whole class though, Brian, because if Giden was better, 274 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: we probably wouldn't be talking about, you know, going to 275 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: go find some stuff you know, Neeland was heard or whatever. 276 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: We we have needed more from these last two clears. 277 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 6: There seems to be a discussion coming out of the 278 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 6: combine when shot When when coach Schottenheimer is standing up 279 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 6: there and talking about Guidon, he's pushing, well, Guidan's in 280 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 6: the weight room every day. That's telling me right now, 281 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 6: that's telling me right now that they believe that they've 282 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 6: got they to your point, how this discussion all started 283 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 6: that they believe that they have enough bodies to play 284 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 6: to start five and be fine. 285 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: What they say about Mazzi Masi and no will Yeah, 286 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: you don't ask. 287 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 4: About for Mazzi there, But I mean to your point, 288 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 4: when the Cowboys window is open here twenty fourteen, twenty 289 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: some of their best years, that offensive. 290 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: Line was the best in the football, there's no question. 291 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 5: And that travels man your hope. 292 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: You're taking it anywhere, and that makes it easy for 293 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: everybody else. Run everything but your old quarterback for your 294 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: new quarterback whenever that game is I. 295 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: Mean, I totally get the pushback of like, how many 296 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 4: first round assets can you put towards the off? 297 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 5: At some point other. 298 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: Guys need to step up, and you're right, and maybe 299 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: this coaching staff is here to do that. But I'm 300 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: never gonna fight putting assets towards the line of if. 301 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 6: They Okay, we're hearing right now from Bobby Bell and 302 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 6: John Moshoda, Todd Archer or Nick Harris, everybody that was 303 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 6: at the combine, they're all starting to report that they 304 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 6: that they would be comfortable moving on, say not drafting 305 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 6: Ashton Genty. Okay, if to me you draft Ashton Genty, 306 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 6: he makes the offensive line better. His ability to make 307 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 6: people miss is rare. Absolutely, And if you're and if 308 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 6: you're not interested in that, does that lead you to 309 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 6: believe that they feel good about their offensive line that 310 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 6: they don't need a player like that. 311 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: Let me just be clear. I think this gent talk 312 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: is up there with the Michael Mayer talk, which is 313 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: up there with the Jonathan Brooks talk. I just think 314 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: we're hearing stuff as March is February kind of stuff. 315 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 6: And I don't think in reality, in reality, they're not 316 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 6: gonna they could not pass on. 317 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: A guy like yeah, there's please go ahead. 318 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, Genty could be an outlier, right, I mean I 319 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: think Zeke was an outlier for them. I think Ashton 320 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 4: Genty is in that conversation, like I don't think I 321 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: think you have to is a guy they're gonna take 322 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 4: at twelve, right, like we've seen that mocked times. I 323 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 4: don't think another running back is in the conversation. High 324 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: Genty's one of those guys where you're gonna have a scout. 325 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: I would assume that we'll stand on the table and 326 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: say this is a generational back. He will instantly be 327 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: one of our top five players. He's our second best 328 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: offensive player to Ceedee Lamb. Offense can run through him, 329 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: we take him. We're not worried about a runner for 330 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 4: the next five years. 331 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 6: You better convinced the head coach of that then, yeah, 332 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 6: because that's that's where this is going to start. By 333 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 6: the way, if you look at the OsO diggies who 334 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 6: are being signed, yea, give Matt Eberflus a pat on 335 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 6: the back of that way. But because these coaches will 336 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 6: have influence and if if Brian Schottenheimer does not think, 337 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 6: you know that this back could be a generational type player, 338 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 6: then they're not going to take him fair. I just 339 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 6: that that's the thing that kind. 340 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 5: Of worries me a little. 341 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 6: In the depth of this class, it might say what 342 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 6: they think about their offensive line. If they don't have 343 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 6: to have a back like Genty, then they're thinking their 344 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 6: offensive line is fine. 345 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: All right, this is the Draft Show. Zach Waltschuk, Brian Rodis, Voncelambario. 346 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: Let's do a little twitter on the twenty as the 347 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 4: Draft Show rolls on here live from the Star and Friskill. 348 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 8: Life is a workout and Smoothie King is here to 349 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 8: help you power through. 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Here's Zach Wolchuk, Vatch Lombardi and 399 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl winning scout Brian brought us at his time. 400 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: Now for some Twitter on the Twitter twenty. 401 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for everybody who has engaged in 402 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 4: these questions here, and we'll start off with pro Ash 403 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: the Rapper pro Ash. Can you discuss more free safety 404 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: options in the draft? 405 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: Hey? But two or three of them? So my number 406 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: one guy is Andrew mccouba Texas from Texas. And you know, 407 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: if you want to, if you want to get my respect, 408 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 2: just go and get picks, man, Just just go and 409 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: be a good sized athlete and go and get tackles, 410 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: and go and get picks. And Andrew mccuba gets plenty 411 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 2: of them. Now. Malachi Starks is also a free safety 412 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: that you could possibly look at, but I don't think 413 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 2: we have a good feel of where he's gonna go. 414 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: You know, the more the draft kind of winds down 415 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: a little bit, Starks was like a guy that was 416 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: in that top ten conversation now, which I think he's 417 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: maybe like a teens guy now you think, you know, 418 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: in the twenties. Maybe so, I'm not sure. But Xavier 419 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: Wats is another guy that could play all the savings 420 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: and he gets yes. So I'm a fan of those 421 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: three guys. If you want to wait way until like 422 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: the third round or something like that. Kevin Winston, penn Stable. Yeah, 423 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: Brian loves him on the roof, you know, basketballs down, 424 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: got some good range up and some decent IQ and 425 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 2: he comes up and he tackles folks. So those are 426 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 2: four names for you. 427 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, Ransom too from Ohio State. It's a guy that 428 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 6: I really really liked with some with some some range. 429 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 6: I think he's best when he could play as a 430 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 6: true free If you're looking for somebody late, late, late, 431 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 6: and I mean late, probably with a fifth round type 432 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 6: of a graund. I know that maybe Vatch likes him 433 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 6: a little bit better than me. We've had this discussion 434 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 6: last night. Was Billy Bowman from Ryan Raider from from Oklahoma. Yeah, 435 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 6: and he's a little bit of a smaller guy on film. 436 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 6: He looks he's a five to ten. He's a one 437 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 6: ninety eight guy. But if you're looking for kind of 438 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 6: a day three guy. That's that would be a direction 439 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 6: that I would go more of a true free three. 440 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 6: He's had eleven interceptions the last three years. He picks 441 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 6: and he'll get picks now. He will not help you 442 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 6: at all tackling very much. But the coverage aspect and 443 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 6: things like that, maybe a Day three guy there. But 444 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 6: Makuba to me is you know, six footint eighty six 445 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 6: got you gotta like the way that he plays, the 446 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 6: way he tracks the ball, the way he finishes. There's 447 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 6: a lot of really positive things about him. 448 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 4: That was a good poll there with Billy Bowman Junior. 449 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 4: Always been a fan of his, got to cover him 450 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 4: in high school. But you mentioned Xavier Watson. We talked 451 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: about him a little bit yesterday. I think he's more 452 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: of a strong really, yeah, I think he is a 453 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 4: free I think he can be interchangeable like now downhill 454 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 4: and pressuring the quarterback like. He's great in run support, 455 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: So I can see what you're talking about there. But 456 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 4: he's got range man sideline to sideline, can play all 457 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 4: over the field. Yeah, high IQ player. I think he's 458 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 4: got fluid technique. He can improve shedding blocks, playing under 459 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 4: more control. But I think he's an impact type of player. 460 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 4: So Makuba, I think you and I have both been 461 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 4: been really high on him. Was productive at Clemson and 462 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 4: then at Texas. But Xavier watches one of these guys 463 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: man as like the draft goes on, He's got to 464 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 4: be one of the fun most fun tape studies that 465 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: I think that I've gotten the pleasure of watching so 466 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 4: far in this class. 467 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, he could play down, he could play you 468 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 6: mentioned he could play down, he could play back. They 469 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 6: put him in the slot and he plays really well 470 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 6: with his eyes. He does, And I love the way 471 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 6: the kid reacts to the ball. 472 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 2: Wys is just magical, you know, like if you watch 473 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: some other safeties, you can be like, Okay, I can 474 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: see why you went that way because the quarterback kind 475 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: of peaked. Now you did it it. Watts just floats 476 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 2: in a general direction. He does in a general direction. 477 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: The ball just goes to him, right. I really can't 478 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: explain how he gets picks, but he does. 479 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 5: He gets Okay, next question we've got here. 480 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 6: He was by the way he was a receiver that 481 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 6: they moved to safety makes sense, so you can. 482 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 5: See the ball skills there. 483 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 12: Uh. 484 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 4: Todd g Mack wants to did you guys break down 485 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 4: the Loveland versus Warren battle and your evaluation at tight 486 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: end Colston Loveland, that tight end from Michigan, and then 487 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: Penn State's tight end Tyler Warren. 488 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 2: I think that's a vast comparison. I think there's a 489 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: lot of room between them. Yeah, some people. 490 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: Have I would put Mason Taylor. I'd put Mason Taylor 491 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 3: over Loveland myself. I agree is what I would do. 492 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 6: I think that Warren clearly is the guy, but I 493 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 6: would I would think that Mason Taylor when you start 494 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 6: to talk about second round tight ends. 495 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 3: Sure, I know I have Warren in there. 496 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 6: I know people have him when I say second round, 497 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 6: he's probably player sixteen seventeen eighteen on my board. But 498 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 6: I do I think that, you know, with with Loveland, 499 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 6: I think with the thing with Loveland, it's kind of 500 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 6: a jack of all trades player. And Vasht and I 501 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 6: had this discussion. We did this last night, didn't we 502 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 6: We have a discussion about tight ends because we were 503 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 6: thinking about the about Ferguson from Oregon and so yeah, yeah, 504 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 6: so I think that to me with Loveland, you know, 505 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 6: all his stuff is by movement, it's all by It 506 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 6: has to be movement. It can't be in line. You know, 507 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 6: they'll they'll bring him in motion, they'll have him block. 508 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 6: You know, he's he's a good guy as far as 509 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 6: tying people up and stuff like that. 510 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: I didn't I wasn't. 511 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 6: Really warmed up to Warren to start out because I 512 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 6: thought he was more of a flexed or slot receiver 513 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 6: in the way he played. But there's some inline stuff 514 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 6: to his game. 515 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 9: Uh. 516 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 6: You know, I really do like the toughness with the 517 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 6: ball in his hands. Uh, you know, you could see 518 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 6: he'll make tackles. Miss red zone threat. 519 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 3: I know. 520 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 6: Jeff Kavanaugh asked me this morning or something on Twitter, 521 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 6: asked me that, hey, give me a red zone threat 522 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 6: of a guy, and I think I brought up Tyler 523 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 6: Warren is that kind of guy that's a really good 524 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 6: red zone player. I would I would like I say 525 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 6: I would. I would have Warren, Mason, Taylor, and then 526 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 6: Loveland would be the guys at my three. 527 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 2: Uh, just like Warren's is stud Yeah, yeah, Warren Warren. 528 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 5: It's not even a question in my mind. 529 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: He's a dude. Warren is one for me. Fanning, then Helm, 530 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: then Taylor, then Ferguson, then Loveland envy third round for me. 531 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got I mean Colston Lovelan's Yeah, I could 532 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: be so wrong about but I've got him as the 533 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 4: third tight end behind Warren and Taylor, and then Fanning's 534 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 4: in there, and then we. 535 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 5: Can talk about Elijah Royo from Miami. 536 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: Where did you? Where would we? 537 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 6: We were thinking about and you and I just had 538 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 6: this suscussion and I think I flipped it last night 539 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 6: after the one we had. I put Ferguson over Arroyo 540 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 6: in Miami, Oregon over Miami in that in that round, yes. 541 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: Sir, Yes, sir, also too, And listen, man, it really 542 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 2: just depends on what you like, man, I like. I like, yeah, guys, 543 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: man like if I could just get you the ball 544 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: and you just give me a little bit more, And 545 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: that's what Ferguson does. That's really what Warren does. Also, 546 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: Warren just brings a lot of toughness to the game. 547 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: If I had to take the side of what people 548 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: would like with Loveland, Loveland is it looks like he 549 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: could do all things, like he has to build the look, 550 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: the athleticism moved really well. I could teach you how 551 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: to do all things. If I want you to do 552 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 2: all things to where I would just much rather whatever 553 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: you do, I want you to be like, just great 554 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: at that. Yeah. I think what Warren is great at 555 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: what he does. Fannin is great at what he does. 556 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: Taylor Ferguson, they are great at what they do. And 557 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: they may not do everything well, but they do what 558 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 2: they do at a top top levels. That's why I 559 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 2: just like those guys a little more. 560 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that Loveland. Like I said, 561 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 4: man a tremendous receiving threat. I just there's something about it. 562 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: I just like the other guys a little bit more. 563 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: Plus, Warren lines up at quarterback, takes directs, start running back, 564 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: dar y'all to do something. 565 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 566 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 4: I mean the dude had four more rushing touchdowns as 567 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: a tight end. Unbelievable what he was able to do. 568 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 4: And he comes with the bloodlines. I mean, I put 569 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 4: in my. 570 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 5: Notes, Shrew Loveland, give me this guy. I was watching 571 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 5: Tyler Wardon. I mean, no disrespect to you, Colston Loveland. 572 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: No disrespect. I think a third round grade for a 573 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: tight end is a really good that's really good grade. 574 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 4: No, and this class has some good tight ends that 575 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 4: we're looking at here and with the Royo, it's like, hey, 576 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: local kid as well. I went to go independence, but 577 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: can't he stay healthy him? That was a question mark 578 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 4: there at Miami, okay from Hector Armenta, who do you 579 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 4: think there's some of the top Day two slot corners 580 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 4: in your opinion? 581 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: Well, you got one to just tore up the combine there, 582 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: this Maxwell Maxwell Harriston. Have you moved him up and down? 583 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: Your bought it all? He's a third round for me? 584 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 3: Has he I left him? I left him in their 585 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: left him. 586 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 5: That's a second rounder. 587 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 2: He might be, but I got him in the third. 588 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to move guys too too much, man, 589 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: But you're just talking about like Nickel guys. I think 590 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: that there's I think a bunch of them though. 591 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: I think Noel Williams could play in there. Nickel and Nickel. 592 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 6: I think Parish from Kansas State could probably play in there, 593 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 6: and maybe Riley from Louisville I think could maybe playing 594 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 6: there as well. Yeah, yeah, Maxwell Harriston. 595 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 4: Though, I mean the ball finds this guy like, he 596 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 4: breaks on the ball really well. I think he passes 597 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: off coverage as well and zone. I think he would 598 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 4: certainly be one. You guys think Trey Amos or miss 599 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 4: could kick inside it all the length with him, I 600 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 4: think he plays better outside. 601 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 5: Well. 602 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: He is a sticky guy on the outside. 603 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 4: He really is. And he also had a tremendous combine. 604 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: But he gets a good jam off the line, he 605 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 4: really does. I mean, those are two guys that I 606 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 4: would look at in the second round. I don't know 607 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 4: about like a Benjamin Morrison. I don't think he can 608 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 4: really kick inside. I think he's a true outside player 609 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: as well. I mean, Baron's a first rounder, but that's 610 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 4: a dude that I think could could certainly be a 611 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 4: really good nickel corner at the next level. But I 612 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 4: do like what you were saying with Parish from Kansas State. 613 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I know he's five to ten, but to me, 614 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: I love that kid. I love the compete that he 615 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 4: plays with. And then I don't know that he's a 616 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 4: nickel guy. But I brought up Kobe Bryant from Kansas 617 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 4: who we got to see at the Shrine Bowl. Dominated 618 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 4: those practices, was a leader there. You know, can he 619 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 4: gamble a little bit? 620 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 6: You know? 621 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 5: A risk taker? 622 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: He sure is, But I do love kind of that 623 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: dog mentality he plays was as we get to see 624 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 4: some of a perish from Kansas State right now. And 625 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 4: he is a smaller player, five ten, five eleven right there. 626 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 6: He's thick the tackle, Yeah, he's thick. 627 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: He's not scared to throw his box in there. Okay, 628 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 4: let's keep going with Twitter on the twenty from a 629 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: ray of hope. Cowboys need offensive weapons. If gent and 630 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: McMillan are gone, who's the next best offensive weapon available? 631 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: In your opinion, Well, I don't want to sound like 632 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: you know, Recency Bias guy man, but you know, Matthew 633 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: gold No, you you've. 634 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 6: Been on Golden the whole time, so go ahead for it. 635 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 6: I mean, you're not Recncy Bias said he was a 636 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 6: first round player on your board several weeks ago. 637 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: Golden is sitting right there for your ladies and gentlemen. 638 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: And now he's confirmed that he runs as fast as 639 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: you think he does. I think, you know, he may 640 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: have been down on some boards because you know, Texas 641 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: really didn't figure him out to the end of the season. 642 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: But boy, once you got to the end of the season, 643 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: he was a go to guy. And you know everybody's 644 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: talking about well Vosh where's the clutch? Guys? Hey, look, 645 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: whenever the game is on the line, but if you 646 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: needed to play, they found that guy. 647 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 6: They found that dude. I think I think Luther Burton 648 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 6: is one of those guys too, right there? I think, 649 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 6: did he? 650 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: You know? 651 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 6: And I have burden over Golden But you know, like 652 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 6: I say, Vatch, he and I do a lot of 653 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 6: shows together, and he's made some very very good points 654 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 6: about Golden. He said, hey, brought us this guy is 655 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 6: going to run well, and he ran great. If you 656 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 6: want to talk about a back, I would throw Henderson 657 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 6: in this group as far as if you wanted a 658 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 6: weapon as a back, a guy that can run and 659 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 6: catch as well. You know, maybe that's something that you know, 660 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 6: he he, He might not be there for you. But 661 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 6: I think that when you start to talk about running 662 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 6: back weapons Smith from SMU Blue from Texas, you know, 663 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 6: Harvey from Central Florida. Yeah, there's I mean, you know, 664 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 6: I love me so yeah. So these are all weapons 665 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 6: guys that catch the ball well and make things happen 666 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 6: with it in their hands. 667 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 4: And they brought back Rico. I think Jayden Blue would 668 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 4: be much more interesting for me because I just look 669 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 4: at Blue in a comp that I've just thrown out 670 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 4: there is like James White. I just think he's a 671 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: true third down receiving back. He can make plays in space. 672 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 4: The fumbles are a huge problem for me, But I 673 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: don't think he's a guy that I'm giving the keys 674 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 4: to my backfield. Is a true every down BA. I 675 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 4: think he's a specialty player, but certainly a weapon for you. 676 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: As far as running back goes, I understand the thought 677 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 2: to bring Rico back and all this kind of stuff. 678 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: We go DoD a fantastic job, right, but I don't 679 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: want us to skimp over running back just because you 680 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: got Rico, because yeah, shut out Rico. Man, he had 681 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: his best here last year, but that was his first year. 682 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: He's been healthy, right, Yeah, Like doesn't he normally get hurt? 683 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he actually made it through the whole year. Absolutely. 684 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 6: Would you be good with the combination please of Rico. 685 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 6: This is gonna sound off because they're kind of the 686 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 6: same guy, Rico and Martinez from Miami. 687 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: No, I don't want that the same dude, same Okay, 688 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: Rico is better, the same. 689 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: Dude Rico Brooks Texas Tech. 690 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 4: See if I'm I need juice and I love todge Brooks. 691 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 4: I think todge Brooks is okay. Where do you okay? 692 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: Then where with the running backs? Do you stop with juice? 693 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: So Sampson, I'm looking at Samson. I'm looking at Harvey. 694 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm looking at Blue Yeah, Blue Smith. I'm looking at Smith. 695 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 4: Richard Smith does I like? I think he would be 696 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 4: a good compliment. I like Britchard Smith. 697 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 6: So you guys want okay, how about James from Oregon? 698 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 6: No juice there? 699 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: Right? 700 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: James is closer to what Rico ca. 701 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so then you okay? 702 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: So to me, I want to find somebody in day two. 703 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to wait around till like the fifth. 704 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 3: Oh I am. 705 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 6: I am all about forty four right now, because if 706 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 6: they if they don't take the one that I would 707 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 6: like at twelve, then let's see if that. 708 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 4: Thing Rocket Sanders from South Carolina, that might be a 709 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 4: good option for you if you want to if you 710 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 4: want another combo guy, when does Gittings have enough juice 711 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 4: for you? I'm in on DJ Giddenson. I didn't want 712 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 4: to bring him up because I know you don't think 713 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 4: he did. 714 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 3: Oh that's fine, I mean you can bring him up. 715 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: He likes he likes him too. 716 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 4: The long speed, I get that, Like, you're not wrong 717 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: about him getting caught, sure, but he's super quick and 718 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 4: the elusiveness like that dude is so good at making 719 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 4: the first guy. 720 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 6: See that's where I I mean, I kind of had 721 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 6: him in that group of guys that that you know 722 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 6: that that are productive. But everybody you mentioned the Sampkin 723 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 6: Sampkin Sampson from Blue Smith Scataboo, I mean somebody's I'm 724 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 6: one of those guys that I hope somebody takes Scataboo 725 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 6: and it's not me. 726 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Listen, we talking about Rico and Rico types, right, 727 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: Would that stop us from drafting Hampton or Johnson? No? 728 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 6: There, I think, are you guys getting the feeling that 729 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 6: Johnson's going to be the guy that could be there 730 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 6: at forty four? 731 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 2: I think I think Hampton, Johnson, and Henderson gonna all 732 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: be gone. 733 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 6: See the thing about it, will people get turned off 734 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 6: by what Johnson ran at the combine? 735 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: I don't bother me at all. 736 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 5: I don't think they should be. 737 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 4: I mean, to me on stape, I think Johnson looks 738 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 4: faster than Hampton does. 739 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I have Johnson over Hampton same. But but 740 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 6: but to me, the way this thing's kind of playing out, 741 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 6: it seems like to me a lot of these mock 742 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 6: drafts and whether they know it or not, Genty's gone, 743 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 6: Hampton's gone, Henderson's gone. You know, we're starting to see 744 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 6: but maybe that Johnson is the guy that's gonna be there. 745 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: That'll be great for us. If that's the case. I 746 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: have a fear that all these guys are gonna be 747 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: gone and we're gonna have to patty to maybe you know, 748 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: try to overreach for like a running back, or maybe 749 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: we're gonna take a running back that we really didn't 750 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 2: want to take in the second round. But if Johnson 751 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: is there, then we should be throwing the dawn party 752 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: for real. 753 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, in real life. Yeah, I'm at forty four. He'd 754 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 4: be an absolute steal. I've been on that as well. 755 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 5: I think these. 756 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 4: Running backs are gonna go pretty high, higher than we 757 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 4: think that they will. Like, maybe you can get a 758 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 4: Trevon Henderson there out of Ohio State in the second round. 759 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 5: It might be more likely quinch On Judkins, why's he following? 760 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: Having to look at why's he following Johnson? Why's he 761 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: falling speed? 762 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 3: They are people because what he ran the combine? 763 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: Are they overthinking him? And Ted McMillan the same thing 764 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: with him, But I just always. 765 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 6: Sure, sure, sure, and the same thing. I mean a 766 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 6: Lance Zurline. I have a lot of respect for Lance Curline. 767 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 6: He was on our station on one O five three 768 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 6: the other night, you know, with our guys, and and 769 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 6: he was kind of talking about that Johnson runs through 770 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,439 Speaker 6: wide open holes, like it's big wide open holes. I'm 771 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 6: like going, man, I don't know. I mean, to me, 772 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 6: it's every time they hand him the ball. It seems 773 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 6: like when he when there is the hole closes whatever, 774 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 6: he's kind of getting through the hole and maybe running 775 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 6: through somebody breaking the tackle. 776 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 3: And I don't know. 777 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 6: I mean, he made it sound like that that Johnson 778 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 6: was somebody that that that he wouldn't take. 779 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson bounces off the people. So I really don't know. 780 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 4: Caleb Johnson had one thousand and sixty yards after contact, 781 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 4: thank you, So that would prove what Lance said to 782 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 4: be incorrect. 783 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 6: And I like for the most in the entire country. Yeah, 784 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 6: I like Lance a lot, and I but yeah, you're 785 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 6: right about Lance. Yeah, I think I don't know, man, 786 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 6: I kind of feel like that if you gave me 787 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 6: a shot at taken, if you gave me a shot 788 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 6: of taking Caleb Johnson at sixty one, two and twenty 789 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 6: four points, Yeah, man, I mean the vision, the runner, 790 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 6: the power that he runs with authority. 791 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 3: Uh. You guys remember Trey Benson Florida State. 792 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 4: I mean I thought he was our Now see that's 793 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 4: great after year one on that one, Yeah, I. 794 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 6: Kind of felt like that this guy was a little 795 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 6: bit had some Trey Benson to his game. Yeah. 796 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 4: And I think the knock on Benson was is he 797 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 4: more of a scheme fit? Yeah, so maybe that's another 798 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 4: thing with Caleb Johnson. We saw Joey Porter Junior fell 799 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 4: out of the first round because teams thought maybe he 800 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 4: was as a scheme specific corner. I didn't agree with, but. 801 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: It was wrong. 802 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 6: I watched the Wisconsin game and by the end of 803 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 6: that game, Wisconsin wanted nothing. 804 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: To do with him, puffing and puff and falling all over. 805 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: Nothing to do with that. 806 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 4: Well, and he had one of my favorite quotes in 807 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 4: this process. He said, I don't like juking. If I 808 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 4: have to, then I will. I like running over people. 809 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,919 Speaker 4: I like stiff arming out, running, catching I have way 810 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 4: more gats left in the tank, said Caleb Johnson. 811 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 5: I love the kid. 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You've 872 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 4: got Armin Membu offensive tackle at a Missouri A right. 873 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 4: You got Tetoroa McMillan, wide receiver out of Arizona, on 874 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 4: the board. You've got Tyler Booker offensive guard out of 875 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 4: Alabama and Jalen Walker edge out. 876 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 5: Of Georgia as well. 877 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 4: Those four players, like them all, I think the Cowboys 878 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 4: are sitting pretty here if this were to be how 879 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 4: it falls. But out of these four Memboo McMillan, Booker, Walker, 880 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 4: where you're. 881 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: Going, Okay, well, I'm gonna let Jalen Walker fall to 882 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: me in the second round, so I ain't worry about 883 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 2: that one. The best player out of that group for 884 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: me is my player number five is tedor Roa McMillan. 885 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: I think they're overthinking this kid, a bunch man. You know, 886 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 2: we always talk about generational guys. I don't think he's 887 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 2: generational necessarily, but what he does with the ball in 888 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 2: the air, body control, like, I think that's generational, like 889 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: high pointing, like look at this man, look at this 890 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 2: fifty fifty ball. Stuff. That's just that's generational to me. 891 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 2: Kiper told on himself, man, he you know, he went 892 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 2: on a went on TV name dropping Kiper. I'm sorry, 893 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 2: but yeah, he kind of told on himself a little bit. 894 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 2: He said, well, contested catches, you could do it versus 895 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 2: these college guys. But can you do it versus pros? Right, 896 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: And first of all, that's a question that you have 897 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: to say about any wide receiver coming out and the draft. 898 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 2: But there's film, there's film of him versus Travis Hunter. Yeah, 899 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: doing what he does best, contesting. Now, if he went 900 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 2: out there versus Travis Hunter and we didn't see him 901 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 2: do nothing, or some of the best corners in the league, 902 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 2: he just didn't do anything, all right, Cool, then McMillan's 903 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: picking on the new Mexico State kids. But he does 904 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: it versus the best guy in the country two years 905 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 2: in a row. So I'm taking McMillan. I'm pairing him 906 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 2: with Lamb and we're gonna have a little party. 907 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, this guy, we always talk about route runners. This 908 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 6: guy is one of the best ones in the country. 909 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 6: He's so smooth in the way he plays. And sure 910 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 6: he's probably gonna run in the four fives. But you 911 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 6: talk about catching the ball in the move, he doesn't 912 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 6: fight it. He could take a big hit, he can 913 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 6: hold on. I mean, I love the way he catches 914 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 6: the ball in traffic. He could punish tacklers himself after 915 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 6: the catch. He could be a hard guy to bring 916 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 6: to the ground. He's one of the tops in the 917 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 6: country when it comes to forcing miss tackles. So say 918 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 6: what you want about the kid. I would absolutely take 919 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 6: him at twelve if he was there. 920 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't need to see him run. I just 921 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 4: don't care what forty time he runs. 922 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 3: Did I'd like to see it. 923 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 5: Tapes phenomenal. Yeah, I mean if he does, if I'm 924 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 5: if I'm gonna runs fast and. 925 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 6: Awesome, if I'm gonna if I'm gonna ask for Will 926 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 6: Johnson to run, Yeah, I need to ask for this 927 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 6: kid run. 928 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 5: And that's fair. 929 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 4: But let's if you ran and it's a poor time, 930 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 4: it's not gonna change my judgment on the player. 931 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 3: The tape. The tape right there will take just outstanding. 932 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 3: Tape's good enough. 933 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 4: And I mean, I think he's a Mike Evans type 934 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 4: of player. And maybe he's not as fast as Mike Evans, 935 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 4: but I love him. He's my fourth overall player on 936 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 4: the board in this scenario. He's without question the best 937 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 4: player that I would have in gent for those wondering 938 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 4: is off the board. He's not available here in this scenario. 939 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 4: So McMillan would be the pick over the other guys. 940 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 4: All right, so Tedorowa McMillan the selection there the wide 941 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,879 Speaker 4: receiver at twelve out of Arizona wit. 942 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 2: Second, though I'm taking Booker and I'm not. 943 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,720 Speaker 5: I'm not that would be your number two in that I'm. 944 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,439 Speaker 2: Not hesitating at all. I am running a good book. 945 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 2: I think Bover Memboo. I think Booker is all pro 946 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 2: type guard dude. I think Membo is going to be 947 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 2: a really good time his lead. 948 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 4: So you would go, okay, Teed, Booker, Membo, and then 949 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 4: Jalen Walker would be the fourth consideration there. 950 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 3: I would take Walker second on my board on fire. 951 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 3: Actually I would have already tried. 952 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 5: I would agree, I would go uh. 953 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 4: I would I would go mc millan, Walker, Booker, uh, 954 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 4: and then Membo. 955 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 6: I think Memboo would be the last one on my 956 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 6: I have questions. I think Membo is an excellent athlete. 957 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 6: I don't know how mean he is. I think there's 958 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,439 Speaker 6: a lot of I think there's a lot of kind 959 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 6: of if he were if he were to be at 960 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 6: a like a Booker mean chip on his shoulder, then 961 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 6: you could put him over Simmons and Campbell and everybody 962 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 6: else in this thing. I just don't know how mean 963 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 6: he really is okay. 964 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 4: Second round, You've got Exavier Watts, safety out of Notre Dame. 965 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 4: Marion Hampton running back in North Carolina also available. You've 966 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 4: got Trey Amos, the cornerback out of Ole, miss who's 967 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 4: sitting there as well. And you could also go with 968 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 4: as Ray Thomas, the corner out of Florida State. 969 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 2: Zach Woodchuck. These people would give me a damn Nobel 970 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 2: prize if I can walk out of here with Ted 971 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 2: McMillan and Damn Hampton? Are you kidding me? 972 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 7: Sir? 973 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 2: Are you kid me? 974 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 4: And I just know you guys aren't in love with 975 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 4: Dyon Walker, the defensive tackle out of Kentucky. Else i'd 976 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 4: have mentioned him, but I know he's not gonna You 977 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,479 Speaker 4: wouldn't take. 978 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 6: Him if you if you put what if you put 979 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 6: Harmon in there? Would Harmon change your mind on any 980 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 6: of this stuff? 981 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm still taking Hampton, and they're gonna have to give 982 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 2: me some type of trophy on a race. 983 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 5: I would take Harmon. 984 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 2: Uh oh, the Hampton. 985 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 5: Let me see on my stack here, Gosh, yeah, I would. 986 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 2: I would. 987 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 5: I've got Harmon a little bit higher than Hampton on here. 988 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 3: I would take. I would. I would definitely I would 989 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 3: take Hampton. 990 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,919 Speaker 4: Over out of these scenarios, I'm definitely going Hampton. I'd 991 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 4: probably go Hampton Watts, then Amos and Thomas. 992 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 6: I have I have it flipped. I have it flipped. Yeah, 993 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 6: I have Thomas over Amos. But I think I'm with you. 994 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 6: I would go Hampton, Watts, Thomas Amos is how I 995 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 6: would would rank it. 996 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 2: Same for me. 997 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 4: All right, man, if you could come away with Amari 998 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 4: and Hampton, Ted McMillan, that's just to me. I don't 999 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 4: feel like that's real. But we can dream. We can 1000 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 4: absolutely dream. Okay, third round consideration here, choose your fighter, 1001 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 4: Kevin Winston, Junior safety out of Penn State. All right, 1002 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 4: you've got you've got Omar Norman Lott, defensive tackle out 1003 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 4: of Tennessee. You've got Jared Ivy the edge out of 1004 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 4: Ole Miss who's available there. And then we've already taken 1005 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 4: a running back, So I'll take out the running back. 1006 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 4: But how about Elijah Royo, the tight end out of Miami. 1007 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 2: Who were your first two guys? Again? 1008 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 4: It was Ted Johnson or excuse me, Kevin Winston Junior 1009 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 4: and then Omar Norman Lott. 1010 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 2: Give me Norman Lett. Okay, then give me to Safety. 1011 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 2: Then I'm going on, uh the tight end that I'm 1012 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:03,320 Speaker 2: going Ivy. 1013 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 6: You guys don't like Ivy, no, not as not as 1014 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 6: much as you obviously do. 1015 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 5: I like I do you like Ivy? 1016 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 2: I like Ivy. It's just a lot of guys I 1017 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,479 Speaker 2: like more than Ivy. That's probably like Okay. 1018 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 5: If I had to say Ivy or Brayden Swinson. 1019 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 2: Out of l s Uwinson is Awinton, Ivy would and 1020 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 2: we should have took him last round? Is how I 1021 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 2: feel about Swinton Swinston. 1022 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 4: Maybe second second? Yeah, I think Swinston's really good. What 1023 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 4: about Jordan Birch the edge out of Oregon? 1024 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 2: I got Birch. 1025 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 3: I would take Ivory over Birch. 1026 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 5: You go Ivy over Birch. See Birch reminds me a 1027 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 5: little bit of Tank the way that he plays. I 1028 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 5: think size. 1029 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 2: I think I thinks Oregon. 1030 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 3: By the way, folks, Birch. 1031 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 2: Is a is a much better athlete for his size. 1032 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 2: I think, and I think Ivy is Ivy old miss 1033 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 2: is like a rundown a Milliu. I think Ivy is 1034 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 2: more of a Tank Lawrence kind of guy. 1035 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 5: Ivy. 1036 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 4: I'm I like Ivy eight sacks, ten tackles for lost. 1037 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 4: I think you can set the edge in the run. 1038 00:46:59,640 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1039 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 5: Uh, to me is a good player. 1040 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 4: I mean he did the stunts, like if the Cowboys 1041 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 4: are gonna do a lot of stunts with with Flus. 1042 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 4: He's really good at the stunts, uh in my opinion. Now, 1043 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 4: like he doesn't have the great natural bends. That's where 1044 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 4: Swinston's much better to me as an athlete, being able 1045 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 4: to bend around the edge. 1046 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 6: But I like Ivy play this game with me. Then 1047 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 6: boys Winston, Penn State, m hm, Swssinger from u c 1048 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 6: l A linebacker Okay, Sanders defensive tackle South Carolina soowl 1049 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 6: so well from Texas. 1050 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:43,439 Speaker 2: Okay, so give me Baron uh sorrel from Texas. Then 1051 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 2: give me Sweesssinger the linebacker from u u c l A. 1052 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 2: Then you say Sanders and who else? 1053 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,479 Speaker 6: Sanders defense, and and then Winston the safety from Penn State. 1054 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 2: I'm going Winston to safety and then Sanders. 1055 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 3: Okay, I was trying to throw you off with the 1056 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 3: I like this. 1057 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 4: I like Sweassenger, like if you could get him at 1058 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 4: seventy six. I mean this is a run and hit 1059 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 4: linebacker super instinctive. Now he's got one year of production. 1060 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 4: I mean he played in thirty eight games. He had 1061 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 4: ten starts across four seasons, but the starts came this 1062 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 4: past year. 1063 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 5: There. 1064 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 4: But this is a dude one hundred and sixty three tackles, 1065 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 4: eleven for loss, five sacks, two interceptions at special teams value. 1066 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 4: I think the angles that he takes are really really good. 1067 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 4: He's instinctive. I'm a big fan of Carson Sweessinger. In 1068 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 4: a draft where it's like, oh, which linebackers do we 1069 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 4: really love, He's a dude that I would argue for. 1070 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 4: I mean, if you could get in linebacker's a need here, 1071 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 4: I think i'd put him number one at that cluster. 1072 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 4: I'd probably put the safety last for me battling with TJ. 1073 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 4: Sanders for that spot, but I think i'd go Swassenger 1074 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 4: out of that. 1075 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,439 Speaker 3: Out of that group, how about would you take? 1076 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:58,720 Speaker 6: Who would you take between Rattledge the Georgia guard, Yeah, 1077 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 6: or say Canard the edge. 1078 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 2: I got a second on Canard and I got a 1079 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 2: third on Yeah. 1080 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 5: I jo Canard, Okay. I do like how Canard a lot. 1081 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 2: I like him a bunch. There's a lot of edges 1082 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 2: in his group, and that's you know, that's something that 1083 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 2: you know, uh, maybe like three three shows ago. It 1084 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 2: was like me, Kyle and Tommy and he was talking 1085 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 2: about one of the edges and I was like, yeah, 1086 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 2: I got him in the fourth he was like, you 1087 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 2: don't like him. I was like, yeah, I like him. 1088 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1089 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 5: There's just a lot of others. 1090 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 2: And me and Brian have watched like like twenty five years. Yeah, 1091 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 2: and we we may not like three or four of them, 1092 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 2: but the other twenty one got a shot to do 1093 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 2: something for you. 1094 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,240 Speaker 5: Here's the one that you least liked was Landon Jackson. 1095 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 2: Way down to the bottom. I got Save Jones from 1096 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 2: LSU and Keemon Rutger. 1097 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 6: Rutger was the guy from North Carolina that I had, 1098 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 6: and I had a problem with Baron from Miami. 1099 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 2: From Miami, Julyati from Louisville's down there. But besides that, though, 1100 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 2: Ivy and up, it's about eighteen names and I just 1101 00:49:59,160 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 2: I just like them. 1102 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 3: Is anybody in the group. 1103 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,600 Speaker 6: And I think, Vosh, you and I have talked about 1104 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 6: this though, and Zach, when I ask you about this 1105 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 6: real quick, because I might have this guy wrong. Okay, 1106 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 6: maybe buried Jared Wilson, the center from Georgia. 1107 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 3: Have you seen him? 1108 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, he does a good job getting He's better than 1109 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 4: I thought that he was going to be when I 1110 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 4: watched him play. 1111 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 2: He was worse than I thought of movie. 1112 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,919 Speaker 4: Really I had because I had heard negative things. 1113 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 3: Oh no, we yeah, I heard, well you gout. 1114 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 5: I had gotten soured on him. 1115 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 3: I just don't see a starter here. 1116 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 4: I yeah, I don't think that's a guy that if 1117 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 4: you're talking about immediate trade. 1118 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no. 1119 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 6: I I am trying like hell to find a center, 1120 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 6: and every center that I watch, i'm kind of like, 1121 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,919 Speaker 6: you know, the one I really like it potentially would 1122 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 6: be Willie Lampkin from North Carolina. 1123 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 3: But okay, it's five ten, two seventy. Yeah. See, Disabel 1124 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 3: is gonna go a lot earlier than. 1125 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 5: Probably any know in the first round. 1126 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, yeah, he might end up jumping 1127 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 4: up because I do think he's the guy that's probably 1128 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 4: the best center in the draft. But yeah, I don't 1129 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 4: think Willson's a starter day one at all. 1130 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:02,439 Speaker 3: See. 1131 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,240 Speaker 6: I was trying to get watch to like Drew Kendall 1132 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 6: from Boston College. 1133 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 5: I see, I haven't seen him yet. 1134 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's the I watched the tackle, but 1135 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,359 Speaker 4: I haven't seen the center there at Boston College yet. 1136 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, did you know? 1137 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 5: Did you you liked him and watch didn't like him? 1138 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 2: No? 1139 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 3: What Kendall? Yeah, I scouted his dad. His dad was 1140 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 3: a first round pick on the sales spot for him. 1141 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 6: No, I just know he he's he's light in the ass. 1142 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 3: He's three hundred and eight pounds. 1143 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,399 Speaker 5: I can't have a light in the ass. 1144 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 3: By the way, hey, watch last night. 1145 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 6: I meant to ask you this real quick about the 1146 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 6: guy we did, just real quick on the Which guy 1147 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 6: did you do? The guy from Connecticut? The guy from Connecticut? 1148 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 2: Lunt? 1149 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 3: Lunt? 1150 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I haven't watched Lunch yet. 1151 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 3: You have not watched him yet. 1152 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 6: I'm watching late okay, Okay, just you know, don't bring 1153 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 6: We watched no Chase Chase Lunt. 1154 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:48,720 Speaker 3: Okay. 1155 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 6: I'm just saying this. This kid is going to remind you. 1156 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 3: Now. 1157 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 6: I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait because I want I'm 1158 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 6: gonna wait. I want to see you haven't seen him either, No, okay, 1159 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 6: I'll watch him. He's gonna remind you of somebody familiar 1160 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 6: with I believe y'all had to. 1161 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 2: Tap in on YouTube at Vace Lombard and watch you 1162 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 2: doing all Right? Podcast? 1163 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 5: Brian brought us you guys. 1164 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 4: Watch Teddy Buchanan, the linebacker from that's now we have 1165 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 4: to do that one now, okay. 1166 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 2: Because all these linebackers making me sick. 1167 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 4: Teddy Buchanan is not gonna make you sick. And that's 1168 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 4: one of our Shrine Bowl guys. Watch and he flashed 1169 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 4: at some of the practice sod In Martin, the Memphis kid. 1170 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 4: Teddy Buchanan instinctive like a lot of actors lack some instincts. 1171 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 6: Danga seven, guy that you just shot down on my 1172 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:26,959 Speaker 6: Gang of seven guys. 1173 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 3: So I've known you. I'm fearful about even asking. 1174 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,919 Speaker 5: Like, hey, watch Teddy Buchanan. You tell me what you think. 1175 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 2: Every time somebody recommend a linebacker for us, we just 1176 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 2: get sick of them. Cow and Tom, you said, oh 1177 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,800 Speaker 2: rasch Nick Martin from Oklahoma State Mark, write this name down, 1178 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 2: write this name a bet we're gonna watch Nick Martin, 1179 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 2: And boy, I was sick of Nick. 1180 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:46,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1181 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 2: You like what you see from Teddy running the opposite 1182 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 2: direction when the ball going over there, or Nick Martin 1183 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 2: just standing up in that movie. 1184 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 4: Look at the draft show scouts at home. Let me 1185 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 4: know what you think about. Teddy Buchanan. All right, thank 1186 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 4: you so much for everybody who's been a part of 1187 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,280 Speaker 4: this one. Of course in the back there, Jazzy Josh 1188 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 4: just kicking butt, taking names, Chris Beam as well, votch Ryan, 1189 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 4: Kyle Yeomans who hopefully back very very soon if his 1190 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 4: schedule allows. Bobby Belt, get well, Buddy, Tommy rsh Nick Harris, 1191 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 4: we love you. I'm zach Walchick until next week. Hugs 1192 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 4: and handpounds everybody. 1193 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1194 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.