1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda Land Audio 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: in partnership with I Heart Radio. Does your daughter have 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: a New Zealand esque accent? On some Woods? She goes 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: like she says horse for horse, you know, she says 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: horse and stuff like that in some Woods. But then 6 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: she has this little like Californian accent. She's like, she's like, yeah, bro, 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: big surf bro like yeah yeah, And she says funny 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: things like we were going home and we've turned up 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: a particular street and she goes, now we're on Fairfax. 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: Nothing can stop us. That's the hello, everybody, and welcome 11 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: back to Katie's Crib. Today's guest is a dear friend 12 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: of mine, an awesome mom, and when she won the 13 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: Critics Choice Award for Yellow Jackets this year, she did 14 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: a special shout out to her nanny and something went 15 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: off in my head and finally clicked, and I was like, 16 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: how came. Melanielynsky has not been on Katie's Crib yet, 17 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: so I reached out and it's an awesome episode where 18 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: we talked about raising a toddler, work life, balance, body image, 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: self identity, and her daughter's New Zealand accent when saying 20 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: some words. If you don't know Melanie Lynsky, please go 21 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: run and watch Yellow Jackets right now. She's amazing on it. 22 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: But let me tell you a little bit about her. 23 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: She's a New Zealand actress. She was cast opposite Drew 24 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: Barrymore in Ever After, a Cinderella Story. She had parts 25 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: in Coyote, Ugly, Sweet Home, Alabama, Clean Eastwood's Flags of 26 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: Our Fathers. In recent years, she has emerged as one 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: of the industry's most celebrated actors, gaining recognition for her 28 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: performances in Don't Look Up, The Perks of Being a 29 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: Wallflower and Sam Mendez is Away We Go. On television, 30 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: Melanie has worked her scene steal magic in such shows 31 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 1: like CBS is Two and a Half Men, the HBO 32 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: dramay Togetherness, which I absolutely loved, and of course, Showtime's 33 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Yellow Jackets, one of my favorite shows of last season. 34 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: Melanie collected Critics Choice Award for Best Actress in a 35 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: Drama Series for her portrayal of Shawna on Yellow Jackets, 36 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: and she just recently received Emmy nomination for her performance. 37 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 1: I'm freaking out and so excited for her. I love 38 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: her she deserves all the things. Welcome to Katie's Crib, Melanie. Hi, 39 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see you. I'm so happy to 40 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: see you. I know, I'm so grateful to have this 41 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: this time with you because I think, when I think 42 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: is so funny, I feel like you don't even know 43 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: how much you are helping moms, Like I've I sent 44 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: your Critics Choice speech to like every mother I know, 45 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: and also like all the press you've done, and I 46 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: just don't even think you understand the effect of amazing 47 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: nous you're having on people who are moms in the industry. 48 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: So sweet, Thanks, Listen. Did you know you always wanted 49 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: to be a mom on some level? I think, but 50 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: in the oldest of five and I had a lot 51 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: of responsibility growing up, so it was never something where 52 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I can't wait, like a I 53 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: sort of I wanted to live my life and and 54 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:42,279 Speaker 1: do stuff. But then once I knew, I really knew, knew. Yeah, 55 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: do you think part of that was meeting For me, 56 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: it was meeting Adam. Like I felt like I knew 57 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: I needed to have a partner that was going to 58 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: be super involved in order for me to do it. 59 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: And then Once I met Adam, I was like, oh, yeah, 60 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: we're doing this. Was that similar for you us? I 61 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: mean I was married before Jason to somebody wonderful who 62 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: I adore, and we were ambivalent about kids. We would 63 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: talk about it, but we both were pretty ambitious, and 64 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: I don't know, it just never was like at the 65 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: top of the list of priorities. And then we broke up. Jason, 66 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: when I meet him, was it was a bit wild. Um. 67 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: I told, you're listening, this is we're talking about Jason Ritter, 68 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: who in his own right as literally I went to 69 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: n y U with Jason. I honestly think the two 70 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: of you are the most talented actors and most wonderful 71 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: people coming together. When it became clear that you guys 72 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: were your people for each other, I was like, all 73 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: as well, so sweet, I feel the same. I love 74 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: him so so so much. You know, when we met 75 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: each other, we had both been in long relationships and 76 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't like an immediate like this is the thing 77 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: and it's all working out and flowers and rainbows like. 78 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: It was very like stopping starting craziness. And I think 79 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: there was a time, you know, I have this elderly 80 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: dog that I shared with Jimmy, my ex husband, and 81 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: she was really really sick at a certain point. And Jason, 82 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: it was a couple of years into our relationship. He 83 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: would get up in the night to take her to 84 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: pay five six times because she was so old and 85 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: she didn't know. She thought she had to pee all 86 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: the time. She would go wander around the yard and 87 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: come back in. And this dog was I have her 88 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: tattooed on my body. She's like my baby. But it 89 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: would drive me nuts. I would be so tired, like, 90 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: oh my god. And I just realized at a certain point, Oh, 91 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: this man's patient is infinite, and he's so loving and 92 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: he's so attentive to this elderly dog and he can 93 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: get up six times in the night and go right 94 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: back to sleep. And I was like, this is like 95 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: dad material, Like I just yeah this. Yeah. He was 96 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: starting to settle down and be a little bit less crazy, 97 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: and it was very good with this old dog. And 98 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I think this could I think 99 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: we could work. Yeah, because I felt the same. I 100 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: needed a partner, like I knew I needed like a partner. 101 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Did you? So you've come out on the record, You've 102 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: said that you actually had a miscarriage. I had one 103 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 1: as well, and it's never talked about. Would you mind 104 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: taking us back to that time, how you felt, um 105 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: and what that experience was like for you. Well, I 106 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: had a miscarrite after I was pregnant with my daughter. 107 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: My daughter was like eighteen months old. Um, we and 108 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: I got pregnant again and I was breastfeeding her, and 109 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: I was so excited, like, you know, it took. I 110 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: got pregnant with my daughter was in the first month 111 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: of us trying, and then I got pregnant with this 112 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: next one within the first month of us trying, and 113 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: I was just like, oh my gosh, We're so lucky, 114 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: you know. I was in my forties and everything looked great, 115 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: and I had an ultrasound and there was a little 116 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: heartbeat and my levels were great. I had horrible morning sickness. 117 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: Everyone was like, that's a great sign. And then I 118 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: was going to do a CVS test to make sure 119 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: everything was okay, and the CVS people said, okay, before 120 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: you come, and can you just go back to your 121 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: doctor and get like an actual gestational You haven't got 122 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: like a proper record, so just have one more ultrasound. 123 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: So we know exactly went to book your cvs for 124 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: because it happens around twelve weeks. And I went back 125 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: to my doctor and there just wasn't a heartbeat anymore. 126 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: It was a it was a big surprise, um, and 127 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: I had like thrown up that morning. I still felt horrible. 128 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: It was interesting to discover how people just don't know 129 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: how to talk about it. And that was when I 130 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I think I'm going to talk about that. 131 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to be public about it, because 132 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: people just are not equipped to help each other through it. 133 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: There were women in my life who had been through 134 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: it before and they were incredibly helpful, um some of them. 135 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: And then some people just it reminded them too much 136 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: of their own experience, and some people were kind of like, 137 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: that's not a big deal. You already have one, you know, 138 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: like this kind of thing, and so I just was like, 139 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: I think the more it's sort of like out in 140 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: the open, the better, you know. I completely agree, and 141 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm so I mean, it was it was one of 142 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: the many reasons I was I was hoping you could 143 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: on Katie's cribin talk about it, because I do think 144 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people aren't open about miscarriage. One in 145 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: four pregnancies do result in miscarriage, and it is still 146 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: even in today's day and age, shrouded in shame and 147 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: like just get over it, get on with it. Why 148 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: is it a big deal? Um? Also, there's a lot 149 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: of talk, well, how far along were you was it? 150 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: You know, here's a lot of like mine is worse 151 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: than yours, or you know, I was so fucking rocked 152 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: by it. I couldn't believe it. I was almost putting 153 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: that sort of shame on myself, like get over it. 154 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: Like I had a d n C on a Saturday 155 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: and on Monday, I was on set and like I 156 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: e though, was sobbing out of nowhere for three months? 157 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: How did you feel mentally emotionally after the experience. I 158 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: felt crazy And I had a similar thing where I 159 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: was like, I don't think I'm supposed to be feeling 160 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: this much, because you know, I when I found out 161 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: I was I've been pregnant for ten and a half weeks, 162 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: I guess, you know. And they thought that maybe the 163 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: heart beat had stopped like a week before or something 164 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: like that. So people lose pregnancies a lot later than that, 165 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: and I did the same thing where I was like, Okay, 166 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: get on with it, but physically my body was just 167 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: like no, you know, it felt like a very big deal. 168 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: I first of all, I gained a lot of weight 169 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: when I was pregnant, I think because I was breastfeeding 170 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: and the hormones, and I think my body was just like, 171 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: what's going on. You're still breastfeeding and now we're growing 172 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: another And I didn't change the way I was eating 173 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: or anything like that. Every day I was saying that Jason, like, 174 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, I look at my body. What's happening. 175 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: Like just every day it was just sort of like 176 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: growing and growing and all he can see is boobs. 177 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: So no one here, one's complaining here. Yeah, He's like great, 178 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: and I'm like but and so that was like an 179 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: interesting thing. Like after I lost the pregnancy, I felt 180 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: like I had this sort of physical reminder on my 181 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: body of what I was growing because everyone was like, oh, 182 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: your brisk feet, the white's going to drop off to 183 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I have truly never heard more of 184 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: a line of bullshit in my entire life. It actually 185 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: was true for me. I did not have that I'm 186 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: still breastfeeding and I want to talk to you about this. 187 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm still breastfeeding my daughter. She's twenty months. I'm dying 188 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: to hear about how you weaned because I I've never 189 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: had this experience before. So wait, hold on back to you. 190 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: So your breastfeeding, you get pregnant easily again, You've got 191 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: pregnant easily the first time. The pregnancy did you end 192 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: up having if you don't mind, did you have a 193 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: d n C or was it I did? Yeah, I 194 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: did have to have a DNC and then I bled 195 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: every day like a heavy period for three months. Come on, 196 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: and I remember calling like my doctor and they, you know, 197 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: he was away, so there was someone like, you know, 198 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: filling in for him. And she was like the blood 199 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: plots bigger than a fist and I was like no, 200 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: but like like the size of a pot, like my palm, 201 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: and she was like that's okay. And I just was 202 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: like what. I didn't have any frame of reference for 203 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: what was normal, And at a certain point, like three 204 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: months into that, every single day I was like, this 205 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: isn't normal. I'm so tired. I could barely do anything. 206 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: I was grieving and not knowing what was okay, Like 207 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: how much I was allowed to grieve. My body felt 208 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: foreign to me, like I should have still been carrying 209 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: this thing. It just it was horrible. The whole experience 210 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: was horrible emotionally. You know, there were days where I 211 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to get out of bed today. 212 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: But you know, when you have a little person to 213 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: take care of, you have to. Yeah, Wow, after three 214 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: months of bleeding, did you call a doctor and be 215 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: like is this ever going to stop? Did it stop? Like? 216 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: How did that resolve? I had to have another operation. 217 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: I went and had a sailing ultrasound, which I would 218 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: not wish upon my worst enemy. I've never even heard 219 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: of that. What the fund is that I've never even 220 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: heard of that. They have to look at your uterus 221 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: and see exactly what's happening inside, but they fill it 222 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: with sailing first. So this is a lot of information 223 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: and I hope it's okay, but but yes, yes, yes, 224 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: so they insert some fucking medieval torture device that pumps sailing. Okay, great, great, great, 225 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: And the doctor was absolutely lovely. Um, but you know, 226 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: I had to fill my uterus with ceilne and the 227 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: moment they put like something in to fill it, all 228 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: this blood fell out like old blood that had just 229 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: been collected in my uterus. I heard like a splash. 230 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: People jumped back like I was carrying all this extra 231 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: like blood around. I was like, no, wonder, I'm bleeding 232 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: every day and I'm so tired. So I had another 233 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: operation to take everything else out Melanie, and then I 234 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I have not been able to get pregnant 235 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: again since then. And we tried to do IVF and 236 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: that didn't really you know, it goes so well and 237 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: then it's just more hormones and just it's it's rough, 238 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: and it's so hard on your body. I mean, the 239 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: fertility journey is so it's so hard on your body. 240 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: When there is no miscarriage, no IVF, no hormone injections, 241 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: no saline bags, and then to have all of that 242 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: is just I mean, it's you feel like a crazy person, 243 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: like you just really do. Yeah, you feel like a 244 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: crazy person, you know. And then we tried to do 245 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: three rounds of i V. If that didn't really work out. 246 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: That was when I stopped breastfeeding. By the way, we decided, okay, 247 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: so to try to avoid having another miscarriage, maybe we'll 248 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: try to make some embryos an implant and um, I 249 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: couldn't get enough eggs. But the night before I started 250 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: my MIDS for I v IF, I was like, Ohen, 251 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: breastfeeding is okay? Right? Like my daughter was twenty two months? 252 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: And what they say? They were like, no, fuck, they said, no, 253 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: what did you do? Of course it's not you have 254 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: to stop. I had to stop, like ko tuki, this 255 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: child who was like what did you can? You can? 256 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: You can? You tell me? Okay? So for twenty two months? 257 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: Did you breastfeed on demand? I know that you take 258 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: her to work? Did you pomp? What did the breastfeed 259 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: while working? Look like I did pump. But she would 260 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: never want a bottle. So most of the time she 261 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: was in my trailer and I just would go go 262 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: there every time I had a break. You know, she 263 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: wasn't on a very strict schedule. At a certain point, 264 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: she's eating food, She's fine. She just wants to come. Yes, yes, yes, 265 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: have have baby. But you know I was feeding all night. 266 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: I know she's so cute baby, but I was feeding 267 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: all night. We would like lie in bed together and 268 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: she just could like have baby whenever she wanted. I 269 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: was very tired, fucking entire neupert star of a mother. 270 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: I don't even understand. So how did you fabulary? What 271 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: vocabulary did you use? When okay, they want to do 272 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: you're doing IVF? They say, oh, guess what, like all 273 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: these hormones that you're about to shoot into your body? 274 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: You can no longer breastfeed. You just did your last feed. 275 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: How did you explain to her that baby was no more? 276 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: Came home and I said, listen, we have to have 277 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: a conversation about baby. I said for two weeks. We 278 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: kind of have baby for two weeks, because that was 279 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: how long they told me. They said, you can go 280 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: back to it if you still have milk. I was like, 281 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: oh my god. Um so she just she was like 282 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: two weeks, like Greg crabbing onto my first two weeks 283 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,239 Speaker 1: and I just said like, I'm so sorry. And then 284 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: we had a lot of time to give it a 285 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: nine and lots of cuddles, and then the next day 286 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: I just had to say, okay, I'm so sorry. It 287 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: was really but then after two weeks she just didn't 288 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: go back to it. And did you miss it or 289 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: did you feel like in a way My son at 290 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: his one year birthday Adam and I were doing Waitress 291 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: the musical and I got MERSA, which is a deadly 292 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: staff infection, and the dermatologist called me and said, oh, 293 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: you just had your last breastfeed. You have to go 294 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: on so many different kinds of antibiotics that we cannot 295 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: figure like there's no time to figure out which ones 296 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: are breastfeeding safe. Like year note, Oh my god, And 297 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: I was sobbing. But I remember in the back of 298 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: my head being a little bit relieved in that the 299 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: choice was made for me. And now I'm in this 300 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: situation where my daughter's twenty months. I'm feeling like I'm 301 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: kind of at the end of my rope and she 302 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: would probably breastfeed till she's five, and I just don't 303 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: know what to do. And I and I've sort of 304 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: been saying like I've gotten it down to like two 305 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: ft a day, and she's pulling at my shirt and 306 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: she's screaming at my chest and she wants the comfort. 307 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: And I feel like a fucking horrible mother, and I 308 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: say to her, no, it's not available right now where 309 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: you can have it at night before we go to 310 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: bed um. But I'm going away on a trip to 311 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: New York, and I'm thinking about maybe coming back and 312 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: being like it's gone, but I'm terrified and I don't 313 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing and I don't know why I'm 314 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: making this choice, and it feels wrong but right, and 315 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just wish a doctor was telling 316 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: me like you're done, or she was saying I'm not 317 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: interested anymore, like, yeah, I understand. Did you feel like 318 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: it got you out of it or were you bummed? 319 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: And like, I really wanted to take this through much longer. 320 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: I wanted her to choose, But realistically, I think she's 321 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: probably similar to your daughter and that I don't know 322 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: if that day would ever have come. Like she's still 323 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: cuddles with me, and like very much loves baby, you know, 324 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: she's three and a half now, talks about baby all 325 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: the time. One time I told her if I was 326 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: to have another baby, I would like breastfeeding that baby, 327 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, she's very excited to hear 328 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: that the baby might come back coming back, and she's like, 329 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: and then I can have baby. And I was like, well, yeah, 330 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: it's so hard to know, like what the boundaries are, 331 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, but it's your body. You have to do 332 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: what feels right for you in twenty two months. It's 333 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: a really long time. It's a really long time. I 334 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: did feel relieved in a way that it was just 335 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: like we're done that chapters over and she was fine, Yeah, 336 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: how is the embryo retrieval experience? And I v F 337 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: for you was it was it? I can't So that's 338 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: the hormone injections, and then you get put out and 339 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: they retrieve eggs and then it becomes this huge I've 340 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: gone through it with so many friends and it all 341 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: depends on like the number, like I only got this, 342 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: I only got that, and it's like, so was stressful. Yeah, 343 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: well I froze my eggs when I was when I 344 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: was thirty seven, and I had a great experience. I 345 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: did it. I did two rounds and I got like 346 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: thirteen sort of perfect, great healthy eggs. But then when 347 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: we were like, well let's just you know, use those, 348 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: something happened. They don't know if it was when they 349 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: were frozen or when they were defrusted, but ten of 350 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: them just were ruined, like couldn't be used. So that 351 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: was a real Mamma, that was real, mamma, Are you 352 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: kidding me? That my doctor was cried. When she told 353 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: me she cried. She said she's never seen it happen 354 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: before in her entire career. She felt horrible. She said, 355 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: nobody can explain what happened, just that they're you know, 356 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: so the three that survived fertilized, but two of them 357 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: like it didn't look so good, and one of them 358 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: looked okay. So she said, let's try to do some 359 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: more rounds just so you can hopefully get more embryos 360 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: and have have enough, you know, have just a bit 361 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: of chance. But I just couldn't. I didn't even end 362 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: up doing a retrieval that time because there weren't enough 363 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: eggs to even father with a retrieval. And then I 364 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: had to go and do don't look up. I had 365 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: to go, and then I just started working. I looked 366 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: into doing eggs and some of that, and how you 367 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: would even manage the time that is needed to do 368 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: the injections. Go to the doctors every single day, make 369 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: sure that you're there on the date. Like with my schedules, 370 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: nothing like yours. And I can't even imagine doing that. 371 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about two now that 372 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: I have a daughter. You mentioned I love this in 373 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: a recent interview with Skim that it's hard to be 374 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: a size ten next to a size zero. And I 375 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: get it because I'm also a ten. And I want 376 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: to know, having been through your having your daughter and 377 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: having a miscarriage after and then all of your fertility 378 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: journey which reeks havoc on your body, can you talk 379 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: to me about body image for you now? And how 380 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: do you talk about that ship with your daughter around. 381 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: I try to not criticize myself. You know, Jason and 382 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: I are so close. He hears my every innermost thought. 383 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: He just knows me better than anybody. So there are 384 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: days when I feel horrible and I'll say it, but 385 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: I really try to not ever let her hear me 386 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: say that. And there's no such thing as like bad 387 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: food or naughty things to eat or anything like that 388 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: in the house. Like I want her to see me 389 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: eating a lot of different stuff. I want her to 390 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: eat a lot of different stuff. I try to talk 391 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: about like how food makes you feel like you can't 392 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 1: have a whole lot of sugar because you'll feel crazy 393 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: and you're gonna get really you know, run around and 394 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: then you get really tired. Um. So she has like 395 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: one little sugary thing's one gummy worm a day. Love it. 396 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: I know we're a jellybe He's like, I'm taking my 397 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: five jelly beans because I'm gonna be five exactly. But 398 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: I never wanted to be like restrictive calories. What how 399 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: you know the impact it has on your body or 400 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: anything like that. And honestly, like when I went to 401 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: work on yellow Jackets after my miscarriage and gaining the 402 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: weight from my miscarriage and then doing three rounds of 403 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: IVY if it didn't work out, I did not feel wonderful. 404 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: I was you know, we shot the pilot the year before, 405 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: and I was a lot center. Then I was breastfeeding 406 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: my daughter, and I like I was smaller after I 407 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,719 Speaker 1: had Carhi than I was when I got pregnant with her. 408 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: And so I was like, oh God, now I got 409 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: to come back and do the show. And I'm I 410 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: just had all these things, and the creators of the show, 411 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: We're just like, we don't care, we love you, we 412 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: think you're perfect. And they kept writing all these like 413 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: six scenes for me. They keep writing things where I'm 414 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be naked it and I was just sort 415 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: of like okay, and it honestly forced me. I thought 416 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: about it, and I was like, how would I feel 417 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: if I turned the television on and someone who looked 418 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: like me, I was just living in her body, being sexual, 419 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: being sexy, putting clothes on, and not like, you know, 420 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: thinking about it. I wasn't talking about dieting, Like You're 421 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: being given this opportunity by these writers to just be 422 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: a woman in her body and be comfortable and show 423 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: that to other women. And I just was like, I'm 424 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: going to try to run with it. I'm going to 425 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: try to just be as comfortable as I can be. 426 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: And they were sensitive with me about like what I 427 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: wanted to show, what I didn't want to show, and 428 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: they were amazing. They were amazing. I can say sitting there, hey, 429 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: you're the sexiest in the world. I think you're so beautiful. 430 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: You're so beautiful it's insane. I've also always been called 431 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, before even Scandal, they would send me in 432 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: for our own auditions that were like a zoftig girl, 433 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: extra extra curvy. My first agent, you know, told me 434 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: you're too fat, you'll never work in TV and made 435 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: me join weight Watchers when I was twenty four. Oh yeah, 436 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean and by the way, I was the small like, 437 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, what big then, jeez, I would that's like 438 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: I was a child. But anyway, what you just said 439 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: in what you set out to do is what you did. 440 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: Because I was so affected, and so many people I 441 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: know who watched that show were so affected by just 442 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: how fucking gorgeous you are and playing this part and 443 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: seeing a person on television. I still think that seeing 444 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: a person on TV who is not a size zero 445 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: is a fucking awesome thing. To see all the accolades 446 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: and attention that you so deserve for all of your 447 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: all the time, and on yellow jackets right now. I 448 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: just I'm so I'm like sitting there on my couch 449 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: and if you could hear me, I'm like screaming from 450 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: the rafters about you being celebrated. I really do feel 451 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,239 Speaker 1: that way. Thank you. When you dress up and go 452 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: to events, does your daughter say anything, Oh, she loves it, 453 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: she loves it so much. Yeah. First of all, you know, 454 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: everybody has like the fake here, the here extensions, and 455 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: and she calls it my snap here and she's like, oh, Mama, 456 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: you're going to have snap here tonight. I'm like, oh yeah, 457 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: And I've all the snap here, all the step here, 458 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: and she loves like she comes and chicks the progress 459 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: of the eyeshadow. She tells everyone they're doing a great job. 460 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: She's like, great job, Steve, like, oh my god. She's 461 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: so funny. She loves to like look at all the 462 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: dress options. That's it's been very fun having her, because 463 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: that is a part of it that I greatly dislike, 464 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: partly because I feel resentful. I had a conversation with 465 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: one of the young actors on my show and she 466 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: was saying, like, you know, getting dressed for events and 467 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: all the stuff I'm talking about. She had worn all 468 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: these fabulous, gorgeous things, and I said, did you know 469 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: I have to buy everything that I wear because if 470 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: you're bigger than a two, yeah, yeah, you got to 471 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: buy it with it, and nobody's giving your money to 472 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: buy it. But you're going to be on a fashion 473 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: blog being judged next to someone who could borrow something 474 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: from prad to I'm resentful. It's like such a big 475 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: part of our job and we had judged on it 476 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: and people care, and you know, I'm just having a 477 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: different experience to literally every other member of my cast 478 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: because I'm the only one whose body looks like this, 479 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: and she couldn't believe it. She was like, what do 480 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: you mean? And I said, there's no sample. I used 481 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: to be a size four. I used to be a four, 482 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: and even then there was a challenge. Yeah, even when 483 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: you were a or it was like slim pickens, very 484 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: very much like I was. They would be like, whoa 485 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: if a sample fit, you know, and it's just like, 486 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, You're like, this is yes, yes, yes, yes 487 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: there are there are, but it's not. It does take 488 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: the fun out of it that it's like, oh, every 489 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: time you or I go to something, I I paid 490 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: a shipload of money to be there to do publicity 491 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: for your show, wearing your clothes, what you know, whatever 492 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: it is it is. Does your daughter say anything about 493 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: your babies being out in certain looks? Sometimes she does. 494 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes she goes, oh baby, and yeah. Jason's response is 495 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: basically the same, baby like, that's what they approve of 496 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: seeing the babies. Um, babies are a big hit in 497 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: this house. Oh god, well you've got fucking gorgeous ones. 498 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: Thank you? So do you? Thank you? Does your daughter 499 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: have a New Zealand esque accent on some words? She does? 500 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: Like she says horse for horse, you know, she says 501 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: horse and stuff like that in some words. But then 502 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: she has this little like Californian accent. She's like she's like, yeah, bro, 503 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: big surf bro, like yeah yeah, and she says funny 504 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 1: things like we turned up the street. That was like, 505 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: we were going home and we've like turned up a 506 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: particular street and she goes, now we're on Fairfax. Nothing 507 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: can stop us. It's like, what, it's not even like 508 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: our street or you know, it's just like, first of all, 509 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: that she you the fear fact was so strange to me. 510 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: I was like, how do you know like fear facts? 511 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: Nothing can stop us. She's saying all these crazy things. 512 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: It's very cute. What does your support system look like? 513 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: You so famously again me cut to me, everyone screaming 514 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: from the rafters. I think you didn't even know it 515 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: was going to be such a big freaking deal. But 516 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: you thank your nanny at Critics Choice Awards. I lost 517 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: my ship. You didn't think the shout out would blow 518 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: up the way it did. Talk to me about that moment. First, 519 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: I was very surprised. Like later on in the night, 520 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: people were like, it's so great, that you think you're 521 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: nanny like, and I was like, oh, thanks to me, 522 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: she's everything. She you know, she's only with us in 523 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: Canada because she's Canadian, but she was with me for 524 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: the whole shoot of Yellow Jackets, just day in and 525 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: day out, working so hard, absolute angel person um. And 526 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: I just because I thought, well, of course I'm going 527 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: to thank her. If I didn't have her, I wouldn't 528 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: be able to work. I'd be at work in a panic, 529 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: because I've been in that situation before. I've had to 530 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: like hire a babysitter and in the back of your mind, 531 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, you're just like, oh my god, is everything okay? 532 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: Is everything okay? Even though they were right in my trailer. Um. 533 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: So the gratitude I have for her is she's the 534 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: coolest person. I love her so much. And I didn't 535 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: get a past one to the Critics Choice Awards. I 536 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to bring anybody because our cast is so big. 537 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: So it was kind of wonderful because Jason for some 538 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: reason just started recording when he was watching, and then 539 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: he has this cute video of him being like, and 540 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: you can hear Seally going she wants one, and Seally 541 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: comes running in with Car here, and they're all in 542 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: there and they're all what and he's just like panning 543 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: around and Car he goes, Mama looks very red, which 544 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: is true because I was like all flushed and like, 545 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: oh my god. It was so amazing. It was so amazing. 546 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: So your support system when you got home from the 547 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: hospital with her, did you have help? What did that 548 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: look like? And how has your support system? What does 549 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: it look like now? My friend, I had her in 550 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: Atlanta because Jason was working in Atlanta, so I had 551 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: to have an emergency c section. There were three nights 552 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: after she was born where he had to do night shoots. 553 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: So I did have a night nurse for those three 554 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: nights because he wasn't there to bring her from the 555 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: crib to me. So I had a lovely lady, a 556 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: friend of mine, I knew someone in Atlanta. Your first 557 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: three nights that you brought your baby home, Jason had 558 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: to shoot your well, the two of you, they didn't. 559 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: He I went into labor at two am and he 560 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: went to work at eight. I'm so disgusted, shocked, angered, 561 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: and also the fact that the entire production didn't just say, 562 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: by let us know when you're all okay and healthy 563 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: and safe. We will figure it out. It's a fucking 564 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: I mean. I had moved to Atlanta so so I 565 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: could have the baby there, so he didn't have to 566 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: leave to move back to Los Angeles like you know. 567 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: And there was a wonderful experience, by the way, like, 568 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: if I ever god willing fortunate enough to have another baby, 569 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: I'll just move back to Atlanta, whether we're working there 570 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: or not. I love my doctor. So your water broke 571 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: on its own? Was your labor? Did you tell me 572 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: about your birth experience? I went into labor on my 573 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: jud date. Um, and he still had to go into work, 574 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: and I I just didn't know how crazy it would get. 575 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: So I said, okay, I guess I'll just text you 576 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: and an to go to the hospital. I didn't know 577 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: there would be points where I could pick up my phone, 578 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: like it got so intense at a certain point. And 579 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: were you by yourself? I was by myself? My god, Melanie, 580 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: you by myself? At home? I was like, oh, I'm 581 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: going to make pancakes. It was my big plan. I 582 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: couldn't do anything. So he finally was able to come 583 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: home and get me to the hospital. Um, and everything 584 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: was great. Everything was like going very smoothly. Everyone was like, 585 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: I can't believe this baby's going to come on her 586 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: due date. Oh my god. Crazy. And then she turned 587 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: around when she was coming down the birth canal, she 588 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: turned so she got stuck. Basically, I pushed for six hours. 589 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: Did you have an epidural? I did it a student? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 590 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: I did too. I understand not I cannot know. I 591 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: had an abiderl late, like late, I had been in 592 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: labor for a long time. And then I just I 593 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: felt like I was blind, like I couldn't see. I 594 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: was wandering around the hotel room and I remember but 595 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: my doula going, you're so close, and I just pushed her. 596 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: I just like pushed past her. I just was like 597 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: I couldn't really I could see a shape and I 598 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: could hear her saying that, but I just was like, 599 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: I need this, You're I'm in so much pain. I mean, 600 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 1: she was almost ten pounds and she was turned backwards 601 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: in the birth canal, and like the pain was insane. 602 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: And once I had the aduro, it was great, Like 603 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: I felt like I could relax a little bit, like 604 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: the tension came out of my body, and I could 605 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: push a lot more effectively, honestly. And then I was like, 606 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: why are we shamed for this too? Oh my god, 607 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: shamed for medication and childbirth, Like, what is going on 608 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 1: with all of it? It's I'm I'm over the patriarchy. Yeah, 609 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: it's really I can't do it. It's really fucked up. 610 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: You're shamed to have to be medicated. You're shamed to 611 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: not be medicated. You're a shamed to breastfeed too short, 612 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: You're sham to breastfeed too long. You're shaping. It's like, yeah, 613 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: every fucking corner we turned. When so you had an 614 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: emergency c SEC. Yeah, because her heart rate started dropping 615 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: at a certain point and the doctor just said you 616 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: gotta you know this has to happen. And I said, 617 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: of course, And did you feel terrified? What will tell 618 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: me what you were feeling at that moment? I just 619 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: felt I trusted him so much. His name was Dr 620 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: Brian Jewel in Atlanta, Georgia. He's absolutely amazing. I trusted 621 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: him so much. My duelter was with me. I'd love 622 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: her so much. To Megan Gateboard as her name if 623 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: anyone's looking for an amazing duel in Atlanta um and 624 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: they just both were like, yeah, it's time, and I 625 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: said okay. And so I was lying there with Jason 626 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 1: waiting to be taken in, and this elderly woman who 627 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: had never seen before came into the room and grabbed 628 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: my hands and said, you must do what you have 629 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: to have this section. Do it for your baby. Your 630 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: baby has to live. And I had already said yes. 631 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 1: Like Jason was like, was this the ghost of even 632 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: like who wasn't want an old nurse? I never saw 633 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 1: her again. I never saw her before. I never saw her. Also, 634 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: when are you when are you playing that part? Like that? 635 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: My god, I don't know forty years from before out 636 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: what's out? All right, okay, we're wrapping up really quickly. 637 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: Tell me what it's like. How is it feeling raising 638 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: a toddler right now? It's very, very fun. I'm very 639 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: grateful to have a wonderful partner who's so good at playing, 640 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: because there's so much playing and it doesn't come naturally 641 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: to me. I wasn't like a very I was a 642 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: kid who would like sit around reading books. But Jason 643 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: is so good, he's so like imaginative and yeah, for 644 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: all of you listening, I'm pretty sure. Like I remember 645 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: Jason and Ny you like classical theater department, Like he 646 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: was like the clowns in all the Shakespeare plays. He 647 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: can do such fucking physical comedy, you can sucking pratt 648 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: fall and you have sense said roll and play. I mean, 649 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: he's one of the most talented people I've ever met. 650 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: But um, I can only imagine him playing with your daughter. 651 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: You were promoting Hulu's latest tie true crime miniseries, Candy, 652 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: with your co star Jessica Beal. Jessica at one point 653 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: asked you, what's been the toughest of many tough days 654 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: to shoot Candy? But I want to know what's been 655 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,280 Speaker 1: one of the toughest, many tough days to be a parent? 656 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. There was a period of time when 657 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 1: Jason was shooting something in Vancouver and I was shooting 658 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: in Toronto, and she was a newborn, and I was 659 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: doing Mrs. America, the first job that I did after 660 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: having her, and I just didn't I didn't have a 661 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: seat up. It was before I kneit Sally. I didn't 662 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: have a many I was just hiring babysitters. And some 663 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: of those days were really, really tough and there was 664 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: one day where I got gnar of IRUs. I wasn't working, 665 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: he was in Vancouver. I was breastfeeding. I think she 666 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,760 Speaker 1: was ten months old at that time, and I didn't 667 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: have anybody like a babysitter. Came in for like a 668 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: couple of hours and had to go, and I just Melanie, 669 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: I am losing my am I gonna do? Oh? Yeah, 670 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: I've had that And it was the most sick I've 671 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: ever felt in my entire fucking life. You're literally throwing 672 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: up on top of your diarrhea. It's a nightmare. And 673 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: your breastfeeding a ten month old, your husband is three 674 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: thousand miles away, and you don't have a full time nanny. 675 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: I cannot, I cannot. It was crazy. I was grateful 676 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: it was breastfeeding because I think it gave her the antimmunity. 677 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: She didn't get sick. But um, that was that was 678 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: a real world Yeah that's that. That takes a nice, nice, 679 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: nice Okay, prize, Will you answer this question? Parenthood is 680 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: all in compassing, enriching, beautiful, exhausting. I don't know, it's 681 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: so many different things. It's all encompassing, which we've never 682 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: had that answer before. And It's fucking great and very 683 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: fucking true. It's just become like my the first thing 684 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: I think she's She's she's my whole world, you know, 685 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: in a way that really I was like, oh wow, 686 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: this is incredible, Melanie. I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful 687 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: you taking the time. I think your story and your 688 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: journey is so important for our listeners and for all 689 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: moms out there, people trying to get pregnant, people who 690 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 1: are currently pregnant, people with children, people who are working moms, 691 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 1: people who are you check all the boxes for me, 692 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: Melanie Lindy, You check all the boxes is how I feel. 693 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: And I think you are so cocking incredible and yellow Jackets, 694 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: I love you. I think you're so amazing, and I 695 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: um all my love to Jason. You're the most wonderful. 696 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for doing this. It means so much. Thanks 697 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: for having me. Thank you so much for having me 698 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: give my love to Adam. Thank you guys so much 699 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: for listening to today's episode. I want to hear from you. 700 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: Let's chat questions, comments, concerns. Let me know. You can 701 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 1: always find me at Katie's Crib at Shonda land dot com. 702 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: Katie's Crib is a production of Shonda land Audio in 703 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: partnership with I heart Radio. For more podcasts from Shanda 704 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: land Audio, visit the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 705 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.