1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Previously on Weedian House, we went straight into the pantry 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: to see what goods we had. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: Easter just started cooking up, packaging and sending it to 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: those who are running towards the fires to help other people, 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: and then those who are running away from the fires. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, we just 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: want to feed people. 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: Well, it got really real, really bad. The winds were 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: really strong, like my roof blew off, and transformers were 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: exploding near me. There was power lines that were down. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: I hid out in this little cubby like where I 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 3: was able to shelter, and then I put up on 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: my Twitter that I was looking to voluntarily evacuate and 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: clothing I was pushed out of trouble. 15 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Weedian House. I'm your host, Theo Henderson. 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: This is the second part of our chronicles on the 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 4: Los Angeles fires and their aftermath. We're going to delve 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 4: deeper into different directions of houselessness, veteran houselessness, and civilian houselessness. 19 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: But first on House News, our top story pertains the 20 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 4: Grants Pass, a disability rights group, Disability Rights Oregon and 21 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 4: the Oregon Law Center filed an injunction to stop the 22 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: grants pass ruling, the judge granted the emergency restraining order 23 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: on a punishment for the unhoused community until February seventeen, 24 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. The order states that the city cannot 25 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 4: remove tents from campsite from city parks or ticket, issue citations, 26 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 4: or arrest people from camping on city property. Our next 27 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 4: story turns to New York City. The New York houselessness 28 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: population has doubled in one year. Houselessness rolls more than 29 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: fifty percent from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty four, 30 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 4: more than four times than the rest of the country. 31 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 4: The number of houseless children increased from twenty thousand, two 32 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 4: hundred and ninety nine in twenty twenty three to fifty thousand, 33 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 4: seven hundred and seventy three in twenty twenty four, meaning 34 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 4: one in three people experiencing houselessness are children. Our next 35 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 4: story brings us back to San Jose, California. The city 36 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: plans to make a neighborhood of no return, though for 37 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 4: the unhoused community after public outcry. Neighbors complained the unhoused 38 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 4: were peaking in their homes, stealing water and looking threatening, 39 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: and they don't know what they are doing. I will 40 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: leave this to you to ponder. Our last story returns 41 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: us to Los Angeles and the weather. We've had a 42 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 4: few cold snaps and our current week weathers highs our, 43 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: sixty degrees in the day and forty five degrees at night. 44 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: And that's un House news. 45 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 4: Our returning guest is discussing how the LA fires affected 46 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: the un House community who didn't live in the mansions 47 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 4: of the Pacific Palacey, do you, oh. 48 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 5: Citizens and apology for being absent while their homes were burning? 49 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 5: Do you regret coming the fire department budget by millions 50 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 5: of dogs, mount of fare? 51 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: Have you nothing to say today? 52 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 6: Recent rainfall has public health habituals warning about toxic debris 53 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 6: runoff along hour beaches in both the water and on 54 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 6: the sand. Several beaches are closed because of the potential 55 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 6: health hazards associated with the runoff. We did see large 56 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 6: pieces of metal and debris sprawled across a few of. 57 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 5: The beaches, like. 58 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: I said, and. 59 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 6: That's exactly why these warnings are in place. This is 60 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 6: stuff you do not want to Inhale. I just want 61 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 6: to remind you that we have a wildfire smoke advisory 62 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 6: and you don't see the smoke, but you definitely want 63 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 6: to wear the N ninety five masks. You want to 64 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 6: wear the proper masks as we continue, as a matter 65 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 6: of fact, in the next several days, because it's still 66 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 6: going to. 67 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: Be an issue. 68 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 5: Literally looks like a bomb dropped. There is things. 69 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 7: Everywhere, pesticides, batteries, including the risk of damaged withinum ion batteries. 70 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 8: And I've done a lot in my life, but this 71 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 8: is definitely some of the hardest work I've done, and 72 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 8: it really has made a difference in my life. So 73 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 8: I really appreciate the opportunity to, you know, not be 74 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 8: in prison and be out and change lives and saving 75 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 8: lives and camaraderie was my crew, and I really appreciate this. 76 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, and seeing these fires my whole life, and this 77 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 9: is definitely the worst I've ever seen. There's really no 78 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 9: kind of centralized organization, no one really on the top, 79 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 9: and it was just everyone here was asking how they 80 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 9: can help and where they can help. Then we got 81 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 9: a lot done. It is really amazing. I don't know, 82 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 9: it's just so amazing to see everyone coming together. 83 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: We're healthy, we're still breathing. 84 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 5: Everything else can be rebuilt, which is what we're going 85 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 5: to do. 86 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 4: Mario is a founding member of the Mutual Aid group 87 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 4: that I partner with jay Town Action and Solidarity. I 88 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: got a chance to speak with him shortly after the fires. 89 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 4: Here's our chat. This story is going to be an 90 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 4: unfolding of a story from all walks of life, because 91 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 4: this brushfire affected all walks of life and in different ways. 92 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 4: So first place I hit is from the Mutual Aid 93 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 4: where we have in Little Tokyo. Jaytown Action and Median 94 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 4: House have partnered to be available for the un housed community. 95 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: And I've gotten one of the members of jay Town Action, 96 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: Mario Correa, take us through what happened and how were 97 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 4: they able to meet the moment or were they able 98 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 4: to meet the moment? 99 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 7: Hey, thank you? 100 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 101 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 7: The wildfires caught everybody by surprise. We started getting calls 102 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 7: throughout our own communications, people wanting to know where they 103 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 7: could donate stuff. So it's been one really inspiring to 104 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 7: see that the mutual Laid work we started in pandemic 105 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 7: to help unhouse people, we've we've been training for this moment, 106 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 7: so we're ready, We're out, we're distributing things, we're getting donations, 107 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 7: we're getting out getting it out to people who needed 108 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 7: one thing. I would like people to understand as much 109 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 7: empathy and sympathy and feeling we're having for people who've 110 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 7: lost everything because of the fires. We've been dealing with 111 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 7: people who lose everything on a daily basis, on a 112 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 7: weekly basis with all the sweeps, so we are well 113 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 7: trained to deal with people who have lost everything, who 114 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 7: need community care, who need an ear, who need a shoulder, 115 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 7: and who need you know, basic survival things. 116 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 4: I've been asking this on social media and I hadn't 117 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: got an acceptable response, but I saw lots of sheet 118 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: of them saying that they were meeting the needs of 119 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 4: helping unhouse people. But I have been asking people that 120 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 4: have involved in mutual aid some of the unhoused, and 121 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: they have never heard of any of these services that 122 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: they've been provided, and barely some of the services. Even 123 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: one of my sources stated that it's a lie. They 124 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: only offered one day hotel rooms for unhoused people that 125 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: are that were not impacted by the fire. So did 126 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 4: you hear anything about the city coming off offering hotel 127 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: vouchers or mask or water or anything, because I have. 128 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 7: Not, no, no, The opposite actually we're seeing how unequipped 129 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 7: the city is to respond to things like that. In fact, 130 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 7: I've seen instances where the city is reaching out to 131 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 7: mutual alaid groups for supplies. 132 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 6: So no. 133 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 7: We have seen also on the ground sweeps still being 134 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 7: executed all around the city. In County. We are also 135 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 7: seeing even before the wildfires, heavy sweeps downtown. People have 136 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 7: been being cleared for I'd say at least like a month. 137 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 7: People have been complaining. I know the people here near 138 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 7: in Jaytown, near city Hall, near in and around skid Row. 139 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 7: Today we're here at our power up. We're finding out 140 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 7: where people are, where they're going to so that we 141 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 7: can find them during the week as we get more 142 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 7: donations coming in. We want to be able to locate 143 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 7: people because they're scattering. The city has got people scattering 144 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 7: and it is it's super unsafe and. 145 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: If you want to this is my shameless plug, but 146 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 4: really this is the time to people that are listening 147 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: to you start to donate financially materially to Jaytown Action 148 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 4: to be able to boost up these levels of neat 149 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: because there is a huge level of neat. We also 150 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: are going into a cult snap and it's cold is 151 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: going to be affecting unhoused people now they have to 152 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 4: contend with the ash, which I did with it's bothered 153 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 4: me and my breathing and things, and as you can imagine, 154 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: many people have, you know, Max, But I keep saying, 155 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 4: even though it's a mask, it doesn't stop the brush 156 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 4: or the debris that still is going to be seeping 157 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: through those masks because unhouse people are outside. The second 158 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: thing is that you have to understand that this is 159 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: not They're going to be contending with several inclined weather situations. 160 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: They're former spots where they used to be are no longer, 161 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: so they're going to be on the hunt to try 162 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 4: to find new places. And we need more financial support 163 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: as well as more material support in order for us 164 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 4: to meet the moment. 165 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: Did I miss anything? 166 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 7: No, No, that's a great point. Aside from these fires, 167 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 7: it's getting cold at night, people are exposed. People need help, 168 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 7: and I'm yeah, I'm really hoping. Like I said, all 169 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 7: the sympathy that we're feeling for people who have lost things, 170 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 7: we need to open our eyes because that's been happened. 171 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: You know. 172 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 4: There's also been things going on on the social media. 173 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 4: People have been frustrated or annoyed because of the lack 174 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 4: of empathy, and they want to talk about that a 175 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: little to expand on that of it. 176 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: They're upset that wealthy people from. 177 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: Palisades are losing their houses, but they are missing the 178 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 4: moment and none of the point of there are people 179 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: that are in dire straits or in pressed situations that 180 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 4: are working for the wealthy, that their stories are not 181 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: being illuminated. So when we talk about it, every walk 182 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: of life is affected. We all are not in the 183 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: same boat. We're in the same ocean. But some have 184 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: the tools to repair their boat and move along, and 185 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: some people are just drowning. And these are the people 186 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 4: that we need to talk about and highlight the unhoused community. 187 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: They medically compromised. 188 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 4: I just saw a story where father refused to leave 189 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 4: his disabled son and died, and and son died as 190 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: well because there was no resources or there was no 191 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 4: way to get him and his disabled son out of 192 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 4: the building. There are people that couldn't move or leave 193 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 4: and there was another finger wagging moment that you let 194 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: them stand, particularly when this brush fire was it's so unpredictable, 195 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: the news was scant at best, that people were just 196 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 4: maybe paralyzed and't nowhere to go because they were focusing 197 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: going on as one area of the shelter. Then they 198 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 4: found out it was a brush fire there or they're 199 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,359 Speaker 4: getting evacuated, so there was a lot of confusion and chaos. 200 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 4: It's easier for us to armschair quarterback the situation when 201 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 4: it's not affecting us. 202 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, No, that's a great point. Domestic workers are affected. 203 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 7: We're seeing farm workers affected. Yeah, And as you mentioned, 204 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 7: I saw that same story too. There's a historic black 205 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 7: community in Altadena that's been wiped out and insult to injury. 206 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 7: We've got cops out there saying that people are looting 207 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 7: and it's people trying to go recover their things. 208 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 4: And that's the same conversation. That's the same point that 209 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 4: they use with unhoused people when they're going back to 210 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: get their things. Even if they're doing survival looting, if 211 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 4: some of the stuff is going to be torn down anyway, 212 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: they're getting what they can because that's what's human nature, 213 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: that's the human condition. So it's this idea to ramp 214 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: up the anti blackness, the anti poor kind of sentiment 215 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 4: and using violence to solve what they cannot control. I 216 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 4: think this is a powerless situation, and I think it's 217 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 4: ridiculous that we can we have in passing these narratives. 218 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 7: On absolutely absolutely I agree. 219 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Tomorrio for his coming back on 220 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 4: the show. You can learn more about Jaytown Action and 221 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: Solidarity at the links in the description. They are always 222 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 4: seeking donations, particularly financial, so give if you're able. When 223 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 4: we come back, I'll be speaking with journalist Ryan Thompson, 224 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: whose beat is the veteran on the House community. Welcome back. 225 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 4: This is theo Henderson with Leedy and Howse. My next 226 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 4: talk today is with Ryan Thompson. He's a journalist who's 227 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 4: been covering the plight of the veterans who are displaced, 228 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 4: particularly at the VA Hospital in Westwood. 229 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: Let's hear what he's uncovered. 230 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 5: My name is Roan Thompson. I am all I guess, 231 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 5: an independent, unpaid volunteer advocate for disabled and or homeless 232 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 5: veterans rights and entitlements to National Soldiers Home, which is 233 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 5: popularly known as the West Los Angeles VA. It's basically 234 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 5: about a thousand acres of land that's been you know, 235 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 5: whittled down so far by I legal land use about 236 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 5: four hundred plus an annex over on the beach front 237 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 5: in Santa Monica, and all that land is deeded in 238 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 5: perpetuity to the federal government, which is accepted by Acts 239 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 5: of Congress to serve as nothing but exclusively as a 240 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 5: home for homeless and disabled veterans when they needed time 241 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 5: of homelessness. And so I'm not a veteran. I never 242 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 5: expected to be involved with anything like this before. My 243 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 5: background is in technical visual effects productions and stuff like 244 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 5: that for decades. But I've always grown up for a 245 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 5: lot of my life next to the soldiers home there 246 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 5: and was curious about it. And as I learned what 247 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 5: was going on with illegal land use there, just as 248 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 5: blowing my mind. And so since about two thousand and 249 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 5: nine and I've dedicated my efforts full time to try to, 250 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 5: you know, contribute whatever I can skill wise against this 251 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 5: illegal land use racket that is killing disabled veterans with 252 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 5: homelessness by stealing their home. And the big issue now 253 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 5: is they're trying to take it and build a downtown 254 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 5: Brentwood in the four hundred and fifty thousand square foot 255 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 5: mega mall, in a hotel and a bunch of purple 256 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 5: lines to take people from new stations in Sherman Oaks 257 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 5: and Beverly Hills and the Century City, so they can 258 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 5: shop at this you know, new mega mall and there's 259 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: nothing legal about it. So that's where it stands at 260 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 5: the moment. And then regarding the fires, my family and 261 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 5: I have been very stressed out because we were evacuated Tuesday. 262 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: And what were you in? 263 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 5: We're in Topenga. So we moved from West La next 264 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 5: to the soldiers home about a year and a half 265 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 5: go to Topenga and our neighbor, our little pocket neighborhood 266 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 5: has been like two hundred to two hundred and twenty 267 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 5: degree radius surrounded by fire from like Tuesday night to 268 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 5: just as they started letting people back in. So it's 269 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 5: it's like one of those things where you're so stressed 270 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 5: out it starts to hurt your body. Yeah, but we 271 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 5: we have survived, the home has survived. So I guess 272 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 5: that's I guess that's another mini lesson in you know 273 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: a little piece of what it's like for people who 274 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 5: are almost who are dealing with that every day. 275 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 4: Yes, from a personal standoa, how did you react in 276 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 4: what was going on? Did your family have to evacuate? 277 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: Right? Away or were they? 278 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: Were you able to evacuate and what was the steps 279 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: that it took to get you guys to a place. 280 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: Where you're at now? A sigh of relief that your 281 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: place is still standing. 282 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 5: Well, you know, we could see smoke on Tuesday, and 283 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 5: I had been watching you know, like pretty sophisticated weather 284 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 5: models and stuff like that, you know, data or whatever, 285 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 5: so I could see a week in advance we were 286 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 5: going into hell from a risk standpoint. I actually pretty 287 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 5: much woke up on Tuesday expecting fire. And when we 288 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 5: smelled it, it was like okay, and we had go 289 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 5: bags ready and all that stuff, and we got the 290 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 5: eviction warning and it wasn't. I don't know, maybe within 291 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 5: an hour after getting the eviction warning, evacuation warning, we 292 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 5: got the mandatory evacuation. 293 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: I also, I have noticed the mid following your stories 294 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 4: about the forced evictions and things, tell us a little 295 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 4: bit about that with the veterans, because that right there, 296 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: it's a flag that usually is not waived well because 297 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 4: everyone has sympathy for the veterans, least superficiently. But what's 298 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 4: been going on with the veterans about them being forced 299 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: evacuated or what was. 300 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: Going on there. 301 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 5: Sure, so gosh, what day was it? Friday night? I 302 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 5: think it was. I hope I'm remembering the dates correctly, 303 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 5: but I think it was Friday night, not this last one, 304 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 5: not the other day, but the one before that. Myself 305 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 5: and other advocates, including the Senate Devermont, this checkpoint always 306 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 5: for the people, started receiving phone calls and text messages 307 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 5: of you know, formerly homeless veterans reasoning in different parts 308 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 5: of their National Soldiers home, some in buildings that are 309 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 5: subject to these things called enhanced used leases, which are 310 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 5: these illegal agreements that are privatizing them, some of them 311 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 5: in domicillary programs that provide services as well as housing. 312 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 5: And then also these you know, tiny flammable sheds that 313 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 5: they called tiny homes for a while, which were used 314 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 5: to obstruct those when we help get veterans inside from 315 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 5: the sidewalk, to prevent them from getting into building you know, here, 316 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 5: we'll give you a ship. We'll call that home instead, 317 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 5: because we're busy sealing these buildings. So probably a real 318 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 5: key aspect of this to focus on is the folks 319 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 5: who are sequestered to these sheds, you know, which, as 320 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 5: you probably already know, the men they are familiar with, 321 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 5: you know, they're like less square feet in area than 322 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 5: a what a maximum security prisoner's entitled to in the 323 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 5: State of California constitution. These have no bathrooms, no toilets, 324 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: no sinks. We have people, you know, who are one 325 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 5: hundred percent disabled veterans who've served twenty years honorably discharged, 326 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 5: one hundred percent disabled, paraplegic wheelchairs with stomach feeding tubes 327 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 5: in them, and their senior citizens, and they're in these 328 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 5: sheds and we get these distress signals that hey, they're 329 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 5: not letting me take my Seatpap. And it's midnight and 330 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 5: there are armed guards here and a contractor telling us 331 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 5: that we all have to get on these buses that 332 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 5: have all shown up, and we don't have a choice. 333 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 5: And I don't know where we're going, but they're saying 334 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 5: that we have to go, and that we have to evacuate. 335 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 5: I said, well, evacuate what they said, We don't know, 336 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 5: They won't tell us. And the reason I said evacuate 337 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 5: what is because at this time it was even further 338 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 5: but the closest the fire ever got, because I've monitored 339 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 5: it is two point four miles away and the whole 340 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 5: area of the soldiers home there. It gave West Lava 341 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 5: as well as the surrounding adjacent neighborhoods and town centers, 342 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 5: you know like Westwood Village and rent with thereby, Samvesani 343 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 5: and West La None of them were under a mandatory 344 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 5: evacuation nor and evacuation warning. And as we know, we 345 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 5: have all these illegal land users who are still in 346 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 5: that land, like brentw With School or UCLA Athletics, for 347 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 5: these parking lot companies, you know, et cetera, et cetera. 348 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 5: There's no evacuation concern in their minds, right, So we 349 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 5: asked these folks, which they'd pretty much you know, do 350 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 5: anyway because they think on their toes, to get video 351 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 5: and photographs and audio and cover what was going on. 352 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 5: And so we were able to, you know, get a 353 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 5: small repository a video showing that indeed, in the middle 354 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 5: of the night, you know, between midnight and two am 355 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 5: or whatever, under armed guards and contractors, they're being forced 356 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 5: onto these buses. They can't take their belongings, you know 357 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 5: that they have in these sheds and they have no 358 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 5: idea where they're going, and they get dropped off over 359 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 5: at Pmpacific Park right next to Rick Crusoe's Grove megaball 360 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 5: and put into a gym. And so then we got 361 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 5: pictures of what was going on in there, and there 362 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 5: were folks including Geno Viola, thank god for her, who 363 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 5: you know, went down there to assess and monitor the 364 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 5: situation and report on it. And you know, there were 365 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 5: issues where you know, we had basically the entire shed 366 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 5: population human trafficked over there to basically wipe them off 367 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 5: the land. And the first story was that it was 368 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 5: and I don't think they really wanted anyone to know 369 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 5: originally that they that this had happened and that they'd 370 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 5: gone to this park. There were not even enough blankets 371 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 5: for people, and there were even people trying to donate 372 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 5: blankets and stuff like that, and Red Cross was saying, 373 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 5: you know, you know, we don't really want to take 374 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 5: these types of direct donations, but you could donate cash. 375 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 5: So as that started to really unravel for the all 376 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 5: say racket that's trying to wipe veterans off the land 377 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 5: and looking to you know, make use, in my substantial opinion, 378 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 5: a disaster that's hurting a lot of people, whether they 379 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 5: have money or not or homes or not, you know, again, 380 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 5: to take advantage of something so low and use it 381 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 5: an excuse to wipe people off land you're trying to 382 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 5: steal and you know, kill more people with homelessness. And 383 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 5: as that started to unravel, there were I guess another 384 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 5: you know, three or four hundred or so that they 385 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 5: were also trying at the same time to wipe off 386 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 5: the land in all the other programs, and Brentwood School 387 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 5: started even providing its own buses to try to get 388 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 5: these people out of there. And it came to a 389 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 5: point where the fire was almost gone, the fire that 390 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 5: was two point four miles away from the area where 391 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 5: they were. There was not even a warning zone and 392 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 5: you can't even see it anymore. And suddenly these people 393 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 5: are saying knocking on door, saying, look, we got to 394 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 5: go because even though you can't see the fire, there's 395 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 5: the toxic air. But fortunately, you know, these other three 396 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 5: or four hundred that they wanted to wipe out of there, 397 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 5: basically in a nicer way than I would say, said, 398 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 5: you know, take a hike, you're full of it. And 399 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 5: so that backed off. So first a press release comes out, 400 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 5: you know, saying that you may have heard that this happened, 401 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 5: and so our excuse for it is that out of 402 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 5: an abundance of caution, we're evacuating these people, you know, 403 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 5: in concern for their safety. And you know, as that 404 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 5: really wasn't panning out because there was no evacuation warning. 405 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 5: All the illegal land users stayed there, even the surrounding 406 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 5: neighborhoods didn't have to evacuate. You know, the fire's going away, 407 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 5: where is it? You know, why were they dumped at 408 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 5: a park? And how is that safer without their medical equipment? 409 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 5: And then of course at the time, at that time too, 410 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 5: they're getting afraid because people were going to the park 411 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: and realizing it. So then they transferred them to another park, 412 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 5: and then they transferred them over to Babbo Patriotic Hall, 413 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 5: which was funny because then it's like, well, thank you 414 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 5: County of LA supervisors for letting us know you're involved 415 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 5: with this too. So two days later, I think it was, 416 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 5: they came out with a new press release, and that 417 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 5: press release, you know, it was kind of like, forget 418 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 5: about the whole fire thing. We never said anything about 419 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 5: the fire. What this is is we evacuated people from 420 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 5: this shed program CTRS because they're at risk people, and 421 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 5: so for the safety of the community, we move these 422 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 5: people out. And you know that's disgusting. You know, that 423 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 5: is like total fucking Alabama nineteen fifties trail of tears, 424 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 5: just bs slandering people as you're throwing them out into 425 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 5: homelessness and taking the public funds that are there to 426 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 5: have them and robbing those to buy your Megamo and 427 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 5: taking advantage of a county wide emergency in the process. 428 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 5: I mean, what remorse is evident in any of that. 429 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 5: And at the same time that that happens, right, you've 430 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 5: got our new DA needs and Hawkman who's getting up 431 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 5: and making a statement talking about looters, you know, and 432 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 5: we're going to go after you guys who are doing 433 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 5: this and doing that. It's like, why I didn't hear 434 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 5: them talk about the people looting billions of dollars and 435 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 5: four hundred acres of land, making thousands of people almost 436 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 5: until they're dead. I'm just hearing about looters, who are 437 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 5: your poster homeless vagrant character. You know that's been around 438 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 5: since maybe Berlin was approaching in Olympics in the nineteen thirties. 439 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, doing something stupid to double 440 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 5: down on stupidity, you know, when they came out with that. 441 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 5: But anyway, we all knew where everybody was, we all 442 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 5: knew what happened. And so then they you know, went 443 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 5: hellbent on saying, look we're bringing them all back. See 444 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 5: everybody's coming back, everybody's here. And then, as you can 445 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 5: probably see, Red Cross has been running a lot of propaganda. 446 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 5: There's actually, generally speaking, this you know, been quite a 447 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 5: bit of propaganda putting out now, you know, trying to 448 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 5: recover from well earned reputational damage to themselves. Sometimes this 449 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 5: stuff gets so dumb. If you watch these Red Cross 450 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 5: articles where they're talking about, you know, how they helped 451 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 5: these veterans evacuate into homelessness when there was no reason 452 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 5: to evacuate. They say in their articles and their propaganda 453 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 5: that you know, they were at the Bob Hope Patriotic 454 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 5: Hall because it sounds better than a park, and you 455 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 5: know how they're caring for them there and all this stuff, 456 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 5: and they have like studio life and there's nobody in 457 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 5: the place. But the place that they use is a 458 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 5: park gym and there's a basketball hoop in the background. 459 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 5: So it's like, now, come on, guys. You gotta think. 460 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 5: But if they if they weren't smarter than they are, 461 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 5: I think our work would be harder. So, you know, 462 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 5: at least, thank god they are dumb. But that's that's 463 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 5: that's what happens. 464 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 4: So there's from what I'm gathered, is that there's really 465 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: no calls for accountability. They get some hastily press conference 466 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 4: to cover up what was going on. 467 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: So where are. 468 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: These house community members now? Are they backed indu sheds 469 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: or they provide accommodations for them. 470 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 5: Well, so this is a very important question because I 471 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 5: think the first step in accountability we're trying to figure 472 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 5: out now with just limited ad hocs, you know, people resources, 473 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 5: is how many didn't come back? Because there is no 474 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 5: way that we're gonna believe that everybody who left came back. 475 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 5: You know, there are people who are scared, saying, why 476 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 5: is this happening? There's no reason what's happened. I'm scared something, 477 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 5: you know, much much worse is going to happen. So 478 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm going to bail this part, you know, 479 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 5: or bail before they, you know, try to put me 480 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 5: on this bus. So you know, you have you have 481 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 5: people there that we know are back, and then there's 482 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 5: going to be more. So we're open to ideas and 483 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 5: also trying to figure out who didn't make it back, 484 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 5: you know, what's the attrition rate there. And then also 485 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 5: when you're talking about the other end of accountability in 486 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 5: terms of what needs to happen here to prevent this 487 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 5: sort of thing that from happening, my perspective is that, 488 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 5: you know, in review of criminal law, we've tried everything 489 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 5: that a land grab has asked us to do while 490 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 5: it's stolen our money and stolen homeless people's lives, and 491 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 5: the only thing left to do is criminally prosecute this landgraft. 492 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 5: These looters, they are not going to stop until they 493 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 5: start going to prison. And when a couple of them 494 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 5: start going to prison, I think we're going to see 495 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 5: a huge drop off. And I think generally speaking, we're 496 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 5: going to see more money going to housing the homeless 497 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 5: than you know is being misappropriated because people who are 498 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 5: doing this don't want to be what the county currently 499 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 5: have call is permanently housed in prison. So everything that's 500 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 5: ever been recommended, right, Hey, I got a great idea 501 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 5: for one hundred times, why don't we have billionaires come 502 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 5: to the call and save the homeless by taking all 503 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 5: the public money. Well, we know that doesn't work three 504 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 5: times over, right, Well why don't we build am all 505 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 5: in and veteran homelessness or homelessness in general with shopping malls. 506 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 5: Well we know that doesn't work either. Yeah. So you know, 507 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 5: I think it's just time to follow the law and 508 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 5: as Naven Hawkman would say, prosecutes criminals. But the criminals 509 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 5: aren't the homeless, They're the people stealing their homes. 510 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: Will finish this conversation after the break and we're back. 511 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 4: Have you known any people that had passed away as 512 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 4: a result of the fires or heard any stories that 513 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 4: the house people that have passed away as a result 514 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: of this. 515 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 5: I have not, because I was at this particular time 516 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 5: dealing with our own situation, being evacuated in our own place, 517 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 5: trying to keep it from going on fire. I was 518 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 5: unable to pay up attention to see whether or not 519 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 5: I know of any people who are in house that 520 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 5: passed away other than someone I don't know that I 521 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 5: heard about on a discussion group that I think we're 522 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 5: both on, which is pretty tragic. But we have neighbors, 523 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 5: you know, in the neighborhood. Yes, I think a couple 524 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 5: who have passed away that I did not know personally, 525 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 5: but they were in their homes, but they were not 526 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 5: in house. Generally speaking, I have personally known, you know, 527 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 5: quite a few homeless veterans who have passed away. 528 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that. 529 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, me too. 530 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 4: So I feel that this conversation has taken such a 531 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 4: different turn. What do you like to see happen to 532 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: change the trajectory for the un house Because when I 533 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 4: covered this story a few years ago, the unhoused was 534 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 4: outside of the gate and then they were swept and 535 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 4: they were forced inside. And you're telling me now it's 536 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five that they're still outside in these tiny sheds, 537 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 4: and there seems to be no movement forward, movement of 538 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: getting them inside literally inside building. But they don't have 539 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 4: to be subjected to, you know, the winds and rains 540 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 4: and the temperatures living and in the tiny shed. 541 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 5: So, yep, glad you asked this, because this is extremely 542 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 5: important to understand this trick. Now, the folks who were 543 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 5: on the sidewalk that we were helping out and providing 544 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 5: tents for for a couple of years, as those lined 545 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 5: up and we had the flags on them and everything. 546 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 5: Those folks wanted to go inside. They were there because 547 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 5: they wanted their home, and they were you know, so 548 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 5: many of them promised, oh that they have that home. 549 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 5: A lot of them went there and said, hey, I'm here, 550 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 5: I need it now, and they're like, can't whatever. But 551 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 5: it was never intended that the concept of what that 552 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 5: is would be a shed without a time, it in 553 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 5: the sink, and people constantly trying to sign you up 554 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 5: for research that you don't want to be involved with, 555 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 5: or be a post boy or girl for propaganda, or 556 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 5: people telling you to go when there's nowhere else to 557 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 5: go because you've been here, you know, thirty days or whatever, 558 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 5: and you know that's it. So you know, that was 559 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 5: kind of a trick too from a public opinion standpoint, right, 560 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 5: because they wanted to show this that Okay, look we 561 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 5: did it. They're all inside now, Yay, we're great, you know. 562 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 5: And then the other more difficult to see is with 563 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 5: the buildings. So the buildings that the homeless veterans over 564 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 5: the last couple of years or two years have started 565 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 5: moving into. A lot of folks don't realize most folks 566 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 5: don't realize many of those buildings are buildings that were 567 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 5: full of formerly homeless, disabled veteran tenants. So I'll give 568 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: you an example of one of them, building two O seven. 569 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 5: That building you know, in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen had 570 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 5: about one hundred and ten tenants living in there who 571 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 5: were formerly homeless, and they were receiving services and care 572 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 5: and house there. And when these private developers came in. 573 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 5: There's a couple of different rackets of them, but this 574 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 5: one involving Thomas Saffron and Associates and Century Housing Corporation 575 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 5: and US VETS. They created this paper LLC called the 576 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 5: Veterans Collective, Westley Veterans Collective or something like that. What 577 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 5: they do is they go in criminally and they quietly 578 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 5: secretly undercover, evict and mass all of the tenants in 579 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 5: one swoop. That's why I jumped on this whole thing 580 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 5: with the fire evacuation, because I know how it goes, 581 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 5: and suddenly the building becomes empty and then an illegal 582 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 5: contract made. It'll put you on the scope of this discussion, 583 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 5: I think. But there are many reasons, many times over 584 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 5: why these enhanced use lease contracts that they do are illegal. 585 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 5: But then when they finish renovating the building, right, this 586 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 5: building two seven that we're using for an example, goes 587 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 5: from one hundred and ten units or one hundred and 588 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 5: ten or so housed to none for years to then 589 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 5: sixty and the apartments are renovated. And you know, if 590 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 5: you take a look at them, they're kind of renovated 591 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 5: to where they could double as like a luxury bachelor 592 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 5: pad one day in a downtown Brentwood. And that's because 593 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 5: these are on ninety nine year illegal deals, right that 594 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 5: they're going to have them for. But if you look 595 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 5: at the hud Vash program, which is the program that 596 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 5: they will only rent the homeless veterans on these units, 597 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 5: the maximum term of it is twenty years. Twenty years 598 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 5: for homeless veterans on a ninety nine year steel So 599 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 5: that's pretty obvious. But the other thing is that's also obvious. 600 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 5: Homeless people don't pay rent. If homeless people could afford rent, say, 601 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 5: it would rent right most of them. So how in 602 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 5: the world are you doing this? Well, that's why I 603 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 5: think we have to understand there's been a mission creep 604 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 5: in La County where we've gone from let's say in 605 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 5: twenty sixteen, not just with veterans, but with all the homeless. 606 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 5: We need to house the homeless. Hey, approve these bonds, 607 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 5: approve these billions. We got to house the homeless because 608 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 5: we're going to pull on your heartstrings to house the homeless. 609 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 5: And then today somehow, what are you talking about? How's 610 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 5: the homeless? No, we said affordable housing. I mean they 611 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 5: pulled that one right out from under the wall of us. 612 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: Right. 613 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 5: It's a complete change in what they said. All this 614 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 5: was about between twenty sixteen and now over the past decade. Right, 615 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 5: So with the affordable housing, the way it works with 616 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 5: homeless veterans, right, bill since they have to, at least 617 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 5: for a little while, only put in veterans there who 618 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 5: are disabled and at least at some point homeless. What 619 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 5: they're also doing is they're taking a building that the 620 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 5: taxpayers have already paid for that the veterans who are 621 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 5: homeless are already entitled for. The whole thing is paid already. 622 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 5: We're still paying for them to be there rent free 623 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 5: because they can't afford rent when they're homeless. And now 624 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 5: you're putting another taxpayer billing program on top of it 625 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 5: that creates a full kakamami program that takes a long 626 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 5: time to get your voucher and do all this stuff 627 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 5: called the Hudbash program that is meant be out in 628 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 5: the community, not where the federal government already has land 629 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 5: and resources and buildings and services that are being gutted 630 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 5: as they're being stolen. So those units are charging no joke, 631 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty percent on average the average area 632 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,959 Speaker 5: rent there in the Brentwood West with westl area. These 633 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 5: veterans who were homeless or or at homeless at the 634 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 5: time that they're moving into let's say Building two o seven. 635 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 5: After they fight like mad and spend all this time 636 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 5: trying to survive to get one of these vouchers to 637 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 5: get what they're entitled to in the first place that 638 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 5: they're evicted from. They get these vouchers, and the vouchers 639 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 5: cover not anything affordable but a one hundred and sixty 640 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 5: percent average market rate rent price dag going directly into 641 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 5: the pockets of these thieves calling themselves developers, case managers, 642 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 5: and property managers that are getting everything for free and 643 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 5: taking some of that money they're getting for free and 644 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 5: handing it back to the politicians that they are bribing 645 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 5: with public corruption to keep it going. And so in 646 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 5: this whole process we have left housing, more death, more 647 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 5: public corruption, and more robbery of the taxpayer's general welfare. 648 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 5: We cannot go thinking, oh shit, they got us, Okay, 649 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 5: what's the next step, because forty one to eighteen works. 650 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 5: No way, no way. I mean, when they were making laws, 651 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 5: you know, Jim Crow laws, were people saying, oh shit, 652 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 5: they that worked out. Can't do that, what's next now? 653 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 5: Unacceptable that if a law is unconstitutional, especially one that 654 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 5: is that is intentionally made with fraud in federal criminal conspiracy, 655 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 5: there is no reason to accept that. It can't be accepted. 656 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 5: It is unlawful. Even the Supreme Court in its history 657 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 5: has fraudulently protected unconstitutional legislation, and the people did not 658 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 5: stand for that. And so if this country is going 659 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 5: to survive, and if it's going to prosper over the 660 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 5: long term, you know, we do have to come together 661 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,399 Speaker 5: and peacefully and lawfully advocate in the most assertive manner 662 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 5: possible against pool and unusual punishment, you know, because it's 663 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 5: it's like we're creating a scenario here where not just 664 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 5: homeless veterans, but homeless people in general, which is a 665 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 5: growing popular even have to these spires right is being 666 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 5: pushed forward. The only option being what they're calling you care, 667 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 5: which is a you know, being strapped down to a 668 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 5: bed in a hospital that they're trying to build as 669 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 5: fast as possible and become who knows, research guinea pigs 670 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 5: or something like that. I mean, it's scary where it's going, 671 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 5: and it cannot be accepted. It just can't happen. And 672 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 5: the only way this is going to work is if 673 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 5: people who try this sort of thing or contemplating being 674 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 5: part of this sort of organized crime against humanity and 675 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 5: against this country, they need to realize that they're going 676 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 5: to go to prison and have a tiny home of 677 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 5: their own, but one with a toilet and to sink 678 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 5: and just to coveyat something. The last part of this 679 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 5: endless die dribe here of mine is I'm not partial 680 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 5: to homeless veterans. This goes for anybody who is homeless 681 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 5: that is trying to survive. I am just, I guess, 682 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 5: being lazy and focused on veterans because there are so 683 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:07,360 Speaker 5: many laws and appropriations and regulations in place that don't 684 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 5: leave any excuse to be created. To how and to me, 685 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 5: I've always felt since being involved with this, that that's 686 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 5: a pretty good starting point to demonstrate. Okay, well, if 687 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 5: we can do it here, why can't we do it 688 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 5: with everybody who's homeless. 689 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 4: Well, I have thankfully been brought up to speed on this. 690 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 4: Thank you, Ryan, You have been very thorough in that. 691 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for providing an opportunity for me 692 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 5: to talk. You know, I mean, I'm really thankful for that. 693 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 5: I appreciate that you're such a good guy. You know, 694 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 5: you've shown up too in courted times where I had 695 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 5: no idea even knew what we had going on there. 696 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 5: You know, I'm so impressed and thankful for what you do. 697 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 5: I think you're a very honorable person. 698 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 4: Oh that's such harder to be coming from another honorable 699 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 4: person that really has this heart set to right some 700 00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 4: wrongs in this world. 701 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: And I think, thank you for that. Thank you again. 702 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 4: I hope you don't mind if I invite you back, 703 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,399 Speaker 4: because I don't think this conversation is going to end soon. 704 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 4: So this is one of those developing stories and we 705 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 4: must keep an eye on it and make sure and 706 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 4: justice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. 707 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: That's from doctor King's writing. 708 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 5: Thank you. 709 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 4: Thank you again to Ryan. You can follow his work 710 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 4: at the links in our description. This concludes another awesome 711 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 4: episode of Weedian House. 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