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Now we have much going on 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: today because the Menendez brothers resentencing hearing was abruptly postponed 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: for I guess about three weeks. 10 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: Suddenly this. 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 2: Threat Assessment report, that's what I'm gonna call it. It's 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: what the Pearl Office does. They do an assessment to 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: see whether you could release killers, and somebody sent to 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: Hakman's office. Hawkman wanted to delay the proceedings until the 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: report was officially released, and it appeared and they brought 16 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: it to the judge and the judge said, well, we'll 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 2: talk about this on May the ninth. 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: So that put a hard break. 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: Now Michael Monks has been covering it and when he's 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: got anything specific, and he detailed, he'll come on. Now. 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 2: The LEDWP was in court claiming that this week claiming 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: that they cannot be sued for not having enough water 23 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: to fight the Palisades fire. They were relying on a 24 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: case from nineteen eleven, one hundred and fourteen years ago. 25 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: They're saying utility can't be sued for not providing water 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: in the fire, and we are going to talk down 27 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: to an attorney named said Kashani said has been with 28 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: us a few times before. He actually shows up at 29 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: DWP meetings and he gives a good lecture to the 30 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: board members. Well, I don't think say anything back. And 31 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: it's been about the empty reservoir, this famous one hundred 32 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: and seventeen million gallon reservoir that didn't have a drop 33 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: of water in it. The fire hydrants were largely busted. 34 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: There was no water supply into those hydrants after a 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: few hours and a lot of I have talked to 36 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: so many people, friends of mine, they've been friends for 37 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: years and years, who lost their homes or had them 38 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: badly damaged or smoke damaged, and they said, yeah, it's true. 39 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: I don't know how many times I've heard the same story. 40 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: Everybody's got the same story. Firefighters didn't show up, they 41 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: weren't in the neighborhood, Like twelve hours went by, nobody 42 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: was there and then their houses burned and that was it. 43 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: We don't know what started the fire yet, we don't 44 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: know why Genice Keununias didn't fill up the reservoir. But 45 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: every day we're going to keep asking. Let's get sayed 46 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: Kashane on how are you. 47 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: Saying hello, John, good to be back, Good to. 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: Have you on? 49 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: So what you make of the argument from the DWP attorneys? 50 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: Munger told us and Olsen this is an expensive LA 51 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 2: law firm and they say they're protected. 52 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: They don't. 53 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: I guess they don't have to provide water and you 54 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: can't sue them over it. 55 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: Well, I have two problems with that. First is fairness 56 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: and disclosure. This is an early stage of the case. 57 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: There has been no let's say, discovery of documents from DWP. 58 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: They haven't provided any information, they haven't provided any testimony. 59 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 3: They just want to get out of this case at 60 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: this early stage on a technicality, before and without any 61 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: kind of investigation in discovering what happened. So that's an 62 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: appropriate I think if a court is looking at this, 63 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: the correct decision is for court to say, regardless of 64 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: the technicalities involved. Is to say, I'm not going to 65 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: dismiss this case at an early stage. Let's get the evidence, 66 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: let's get the testimony. Let's hear from the people at DWP, 67 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: let's hear from the fireman. Let's figure out what exactly 68 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: happened here and why, and then we'll make a decision 69 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: as to who's liable or not. That's to me is 70 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: the fairness. Number two is kind of the technical legal 71 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 3: aspects that I can address if you. 72 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: Like, Yes, I do. 73 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 3: Well, relying on what the DWP is essentially saying is 74 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 3: there's a very old case in California, for likes one 75 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: hundred and ten years old or something, in which a 76 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 3: water utility was unable to supply water in the case 77 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: of a fire to a customer who actually couldn't pay 78 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: its bill, by the way, and that's why the water 79 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: and they were unable to supply the water and a 80 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: fire took place and there was some damage, and the 81 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 3: Supreme Court back then held, well, this utility is not 82 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: liable for not producing water in this case because there 83 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: was the Supreme Court said, no specific contract between the 84 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: utility and this customer to supply water for fire suppression. 85 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: That was the very specific narration in the case. Now, 86 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: that was one hundred and ten years ago. Since then, 87 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: the law has evolved in change, and for example, in 88 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, we had a case where the 89 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: Yorba Linda Water District was ordered to pay seventy million 90 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 3: dollars to I believe eleven homeowners whose homes were damaged 91 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: because the Yorba Linda Water District did not supply water 92 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: for hydrants during the during the fire. It was the 93 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: fire called the Freeway fire, and in that case, the 94 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: Yorba Linda District was ordered to pay. Now, as you 95 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: can see, the law changes over one hundred and ten 96 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: years and legal theories change, and in the Yorba Linda case, 97 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: as in the cases we have today, the theory being 98 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: used is a theory called inverse condemnation, which I can 99 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: explain if you like. But the basic thing to keep 100 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: in mind is that it's one hundred and ten years 101 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: and laws and theories change over one ten years. And 102 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: what was the law in nineteen eleven is not necessarily 103 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: the law today. And let me point out something very important. 104 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: If this is also clear, then I have to ask 105 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: the question, which is why were the utilities. The water 106 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: utilities for the last few years had been going to 107 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: the legislature in Sacramento and asking the legislature to enact 108 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: a specific law that says they have no liability, which 109 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: the legislature never enacted. It never passed that law. So 110 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: if it's so clear that the Department of Water Power 111 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 3: has no liability, why are they lobbying the legislature to 112 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: pass the law that says they're not liable. 113 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: The reservoir in the Palisades was built specifically for fire suppression. 114 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: It was out of the nineteen sixty one bel Air 115 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: fire which burned five hundred homes, very famous fire at 116 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: the time. They built this reservoir next door in the 117 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 2: Palisades in nineteen sixty four, and at the time, if 118 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: you look up all the old news stories, it was 119 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: for fire suppression period. Well, they didn't fill it. So 120 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 2: it seems like they aren't legally if they built a 121 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: reservoir for fire suppression, but they don't fill the reservoir 122 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: and they're using our water payment money for it, the 123 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: ratepayer money. 124 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: Of course they're legally liable. How could they not be? 125 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think so. As a matter of fairness, 126 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: I mean, let's take an extreme case. Let's say they 127 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 3: just shut off the water supply from the reservoir because 128 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: the governor was in town and he wanted a photo 129 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: opportunity or something. Would anyone say that they're not liable. 130 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 3: Of course, they're liable. Now in this case, they also 131 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: shut off the water supply, and they kept it off 132 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: for a year for no good reason basically, and as 133 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: a result, there was no water. I mean there were 134 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: literally helicopters landing at the reservoir trying to load up 135 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: with water, and there was no water for water drops. 136 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: And nobody seemed to know that the reservoir was empty. 137 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: Because if they knew, somebody would have done something right. 138 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: The fire chief would have, the mayor would have, city 139 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: council would have. 140 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: That is a very interesting point. The DWP on its 141 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: own website, although I think since then they've changed this, 142 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: but on their website prior to the fire, had a 143 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: specific disclosure saying we will inform you customers about interruptions 144 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 3: and water supply, and we will inform you about interruptions 145 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: and power supply. But when they took the reservoir offline, 146 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: they never gave anyone any notice that saying, hey, you know, 147 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: you're at risk because there in the case of a fire, 148 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: there will be no water available. If they just disclose 149 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: that information, people could have taken steps, or at least 150 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: the fire department could have prepared. There's an example of 151 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: this in two thousand and three, the Department of Water 152 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: and Power drained the reservoir for a period of time 153 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 3: in order to put this this cover on top of it. 154 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: They told the fire department. The fire department informed a 155 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 3: DWP that no, this is a risk. You have to 156 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: take steps, and they actually took some mitigation measures to 157 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: allow for some availability of water for water fires wildfires 158 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: while they were installing that cover. But this time they 159 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: didn't tell anyone and they didn't do anything. So the 160 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: fire came and there was no water. And by the way, 161 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: they still haven't filled that reservot. It's still empty. 162 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 2: I just I don't understand the reservoirs being empty. I 163 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: don't understand this policy. What is it. I clearly they 164 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: don't care and they don't think they have to do this. 165 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: And it's not their money either. I mean, if all 166 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: these if all the workers at DWP, all these executives, 167 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: all these bureaucrats. If we could sue them and liquidate 168 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 2: their asset, I think you'd see them doing their jobs differently. 169 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: All right, well, said Kashani. 170 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: It's good to have you on, and we'll have you 171 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: on any time that you have any new information in 172 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 2: a new analysis. You haven't heard why what the origin 173 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 2: of the fire is, have you? We're looking to get 174 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: that secret uncovered. 175 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: Well, again, the DWP has not been forthcoming because immediately 176 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: after the fire, the DWP announced that their power lines 177 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: were definitely not involved and in fact they were not 178 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: the power lines in the area where the fire started. 179 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: They claimed had been unenergized and depowered for five years. 180 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: But just two weeks ago, I think was on your show, 181 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: DWP added, well, actually our power lines were on the 182 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: day of the fire. Yeah, well that. 183 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 2: That was because yeah, that they have started the possible 184 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: second fire. I gotta go say it. Thank you for 185 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: coming on with us. 186 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: Thank you, sir, all. 187 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: Right, said Kashani, attorney in the palace, Thank you for 188 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: coming on. We have Oh you know, we don't get 189 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: to kick Eric Arceti around much anymore. But it turns 190 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: out there's another lnate breaking failure from his administration. 191 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: Will tell you about it. 192 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 193 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: six forty. 194 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 2: Michael Monks will be with us after Deborah's three thirty news, 195 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: and he's going to tell us what went on in 196 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: court today with the Menendez brothers hearing. Hackman staff against 197 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: the Garagous team, and a last minute twist, somebody dropped 198 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: the risk assessment plan or the risk assessment analysis in 199 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: Hawkman's office. This is something the State Parole Agency was 200 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: putting together in case newsome a god of clemency request 201 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: and if they were going to parole the Menendez brothers 202 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: in any way, they need to do this risk assessment. Well, 203 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: Hakman was trying to get the whole hearing delayed until 204 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: the assessment came through. Nobody knew when it was going 205 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: to be released, and somehow it appeared in his office 206 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: and then he brought it into court and the judge said, well, 207 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 2: we got to put off the hearing now to the 208 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: least May ninth. Quite a shocking twist. And Michael was 209 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: in court today and he's gonna explain it to us. 210 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 2: I was laughing because you know, I miss kicking Eric 211 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: Arcetti's political carcass around and one of the stupid things 212 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: he does this, Santa Monica does this. They try to 213 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: come up with these complicated ways to snarl traffic because 214 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 2: they want pedestrian deaths down to zero, and they don't 215 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: care what kind of traffic jam they create. We have 216 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: done a lot of research over the years about pedestrian fatalities. 217 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: They're often at night, and they often involve drunk people, 218 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: either drunk people stumbling down the street or drunk people 219 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 2: driving cars or drug dedicted people. And if you look 220 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 2: at a chart, the number of pedestrians who are getting 221 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 2: killed in the streets matches the increase in the homeless 222 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: because they stumble in the middle of the street. 223 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: All the time. 224 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: So you have a meth addict or a fentanyl addict 225 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: standing in the middle of the street twirling around and 226 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: they get run over by some drunk and that's what 227 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: caused the increase. It's because they allow vagrants to live 228 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 2: in public places. That's the beginning and end of it. 229 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: If you look at the neighborhoods, you look at the streets, 230 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: where you have an increase of pedestrian deaths, it's. 231 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: Not in bel air. 232 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: It's in places where there are a lot of vagrants 233 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: and they wander in and out of traffic and then 234 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: they get flagged. And so they don't want to get 235 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: the vagrants off the streets and put them away. Instead 236 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: they want to stall traffic on every boulevard in the city, 237 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: you know. But Garcetti was such a blockhead, so they 238 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: came across some idea of Sweden, you know, one of 239 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: these scand Scandinavian socialistic, ridiculous. 240 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: Concepts. 241 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: Garcetti in twenty fifteen came up with Vision zero, the 242 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: Vision zero action plan. In fact, they wanted zero deaths, 243 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: and they implemented the strategy in twenty fifteen, and they 244 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: were supposed to eliminate traffic deaths by twenty twenty five. 245 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: Zero right, Vision zero, so by now, by this year, 246 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: we should have nobody dying in the streets. They had 247 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: fifty six actions and strategies in the original list, and 248 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: Friday they released an audit. The firm KPMG did an 249 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: audit audit and found that half of the actions and 250 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: strategies were never implemented. All of them had target dates 251 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: that range from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty. They simply 252 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: didn't do anything and traffic deaths have not gone down 253 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: to zero. They've increased more than three hundred and thirty 254 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: traffic fatalities a year through twenty twenty three, three hundred 255 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: and thirty over that over the last three year period 256 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: ending in twenty twenty three, Garcetti had created a Steering 257 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: Committee representatives from departments across the city Department of Transportation LAPD. 258 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: They would Scott's progress and plan traffic safety projects. But 259 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: the audit found that the Steering Committee stopped having meetings 260 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. As in twenty eighteen, nobody bothered to 261 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: show up at the meetings. I'm sure they spent millions. 262 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 263 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: six forty. 264 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: We have Conway coming up after four o'clock. We're on 265 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: every day from one until fourth. And today was the 266 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: day that the Menendez brothers, Eric and Lyle were supposed 267 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: to attend a resentencing hearing in Van nys the judges 268 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: Superior Court Justice Michael jessic And it was to begin 269 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: a hearing Nathan Hockman's District attorney staff was going to 270 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: explain why they should not be released from prison after 271 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: thirty five years. Mark Garregos was leading his team to 272 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: say that the Menendez brothers deserve freedom. But we didn't 273 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: really get there because I don't know if a mysterious 274 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: package showed up at Hawkman's office, but it was a 275 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: risk assessment file that the State Parole Board or the 276 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: Parole Agency had put together. And Hawkman had been fighting 277 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: for a postponement until this report came out. I guess 278 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: it wasn't expected for a while, and then suddenly it 279 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: appeared and Michael Monks is going to explain what happened. 280 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was quite a strange day here. 281 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 5: We never even got to the meet of the resentencing 282 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,239 Speaker 5: hearing because it was basically sidetracked by a couple of 283 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 5: other issues, one at the beginning and now a new 284 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 5: one at the end. The first one was that motion 285 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 5: that Da Hawkman had filed to say, why don't we 286 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 5: take a break because I've got my hands on this 287 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 5: document from the State Parole Commission, this risk assessment, which 288 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 5: the Governor's office. By the way, a sin set is 289 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 5: not complete, so that is supposed to be finished for 290 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 5: a June thirteenth parole review. It somehow ended up in 291 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 5: the hands of the District Attorney's office. He says all 292 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 5: parties should maybe take a look at it before proceeding, 293 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 5: And so the court took a long break so they 294 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 5: could get some clarification from the Governor's office over whether 295 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 5: everybody could have it. It looks like they got that clarification, 296 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 5: but now they need to review whether it is admissible 297 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 5: as part of this resentencing case. Remember this document, this 298 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 5: risk assessment is from the Parole Commission. That's another avenue 299 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 5: that Mendez are trying to take to get free. This 300 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 5: is a resentencing thing here in the Superior Court in 301 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 5: La So they have to figure out whether it's admissible 302 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 5: as evidence. At the end, when it all fell apart, 303 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 5: Mark Gergos, the defense attorney for the Menindez brothers, filed 304 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 5: his own. 305 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: Motion to get d. A. Hakman kicked off of this case. 306 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 5: He wants to see him recused from this case because 307 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 5: he says Hawkman is just simply biased against Eric and 308 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 5: Lyleman Indez and nothing that we say is going to 309 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 5: change that. They're not going to get a fair trial 310 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 5: here with d. A. Hakman prosecuting the case. So on 311 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 5: May the ninth, they're going to get together to consider 312 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 5: both of these things, the admissibility of that risk assessment, 313 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 5: and then whether or not D. A. Hawkman's motion or 314 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 5: the motion against D. A. Hawkman can be addressed as well. 315 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: That Garaghos claim sounds like ridiculous theatrics. What's his evidence 316 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: that Hakman is biased? His job is to argue on 317 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: behalf of the people, and the argument as to why 318 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: two convicted murderers ought to stay in prison is self evident. 319 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: That's not bias at the risk case paying. 320 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 5: It did seem like a thin argument that Gearaghos was 321 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 5: presenting to the media after court finished up today, he 322 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 5: came out to talk to the press and yeah, same 323 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 5: thought was, well. 324 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: What do you expect. 325 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 5: On the other hand, Nathan Hackman showed up today with 326 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: this document and it seemed to be in the interest 327 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 5: of fairness that he thought everybody should maybe take a 328 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 5: look at this and see whether it should be considered 329 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 5: in this case. So let's not move forward until everyone 330 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 5: gets a chance. Whereas Gearaghos was framing it as something 331 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: un fair, as something that Hawkman had in his possession 332 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 5: that they didn't have in theirs, and it would have 333 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 5: been weaponized against them. But it did seem like Hackman 334 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 5: was trying to get it to them. So it was 335 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 5: a very confusing moment for me, and I didn't get 336 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 5: any clarity on that. These press conferences are loud. It's 337 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 5: full of you know, inside edition reporters shouting nonsense, so 338 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 5: you don't get a lot of good answers. 339 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: Well, Hackman didn't release it on his own. He said, hey, 340 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 2: this this fell into my lap here. We should all 341 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: read this and then decide if it's part of our 342 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: hearing process that if it exists, Yeah, if it exists, 343 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 2: you have to address it. I mean, because the judge 344 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 2: is going to decide whether they should potentially be released. Well, 345 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: here's the risk assessment of what the par Commission thinks 346 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: could happen. 347 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: If they're released. 348 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: Now, that's a pro commission was going to release the 349 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: Benenda's brothers, because that was another separate track. But in 350 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: the end, it's the same story. They get released, what 351 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: are they think is going to happen? 352 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 5: That's right, and the parole thing isn't until June thirteenth. Now, 353 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 5: the consideration of these two different motions, the possible recusal 354 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 5: of Nathan Hawkman and the admissibility of this Parole Commission 355 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 5: document the risk assessment document that's for May ninth, So 356 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 5: we will have plenty of men Indez stuff coming up 357 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 5: over the next several weeks. But it seems like every 358 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 5: time we get something scheduled with these guys, something weird happens, 359 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 5: and then there's no finality to it, so the show 360 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 5: goes on. 361 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: Just a strange coincidence. 362 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 2: If it is a coincidence that Hawkman wanted this hearing 363 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 2: delayed until he could get the risk assessment from the 364 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 2: State Parole Commission, which certain comes how are you looking 365 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: at this case till June? Yeah, and now suddenly it 366 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: shows up almost two months early, just when he was 367 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: trying to get the delay. 368 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: That's that's just weird. 369 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: And I just wonder who had a friend in what 370 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: office to make this happen. I don't believe in coincidences. 371 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: There's a story. 372 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: Behind all this. All right, Michael, thanks very much for 373 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: coming on. 374 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 375 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: six forty. 376 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 2: You've heard about kilmoar Abrego Garcia. He's the guy in Maryland, 377 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: the illegal alien who was sent to an L. Salvador 378 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 2: in prison suspected of being an MS thirteen gang member, 379 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: and every journalist seems to be slashing their wrists over this, 380 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: and these democratic politicians like that dufist Senator Chris van 381 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: Holland from Maryland flew all the way to El Salvador. 382 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: They're saying that the administration had no proof he was 383 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: an MS thirteen member. Well, they have released some more information. 384 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: They say Abrego Garcia carried the rank of che keo 385 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: in the MS thirteen hierarchy, and his nickname was Chile, 386 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: and that he wore the gang member uniform Chicago bulls 387 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: hat and hoodie with rolls of money covering the eyes, 388 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: ears and mouth of the presidents on the different denominations. 389 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: Camie Abrego Garcia also has a wife, and they found 390 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 2: her or they released her request for a restraining order 391 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: against him, because he was beating her up, and he 392 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: was beating her up and she was living in fear, 393 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: and she went to court to be protected. She talks about, 394 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: you know, being given a purple eye, about being whacked 395 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 2: with his work boot, among other assaults, and that's why 396 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: she went to get the restraining order. 397 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: Now she's changing her tune. 398 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: My wife's name is Jennifer, and she wants her husband 399 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 2: turn to the United States. 400 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: Listen to this, and I. 401 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 6: Stand before you, filled with spirit that refuses to bring down. 402 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 6: I will not stop fighting until I see my husband alive. Killmar, 403 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 6: if you can hear me, stay strong. God hasn't forgotten 404 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 6: about you. Our children are asking when would you come home, 405 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 6: and I pray for the day I tell them the 406 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 6: time and date that you'll return. As we continue through 407 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 6: Holy Week, my heart aches for my husband. Wish I 408 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 6: had been here leading our Easter prayers. Instead, I find 409 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 6: myself pleading with the Trump administration and the Bukeel administration 410 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 6: to stop playing political game aimes with the life of 411 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 6: kill Mar. Our family is torn apart during the scary time, 412 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 6: and our children's miss their dad so much. Despite the 413 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 6: challenges we continue to face with the US and the 414 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 6: Salvadorian government. 415 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: I hope that. 416 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 6: The strength of faith and the resilence within us will 417 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 6: keep us standing after all the punches we continue to receive. 418 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 6: Our ability to fight back against these governments our testimonies 419 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 6: to the spirit of fight and restrain that God has 420 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 6: given us. We will continue standing strong and we will 421 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 6: never give up on you. 422 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: Kilmar, well, kill Maar. 423 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: That's the same man that She wrote, uh in the 424 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: restraining order that he's a repeat wife beater, and here's 425 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: an exact quote. At this point, I'm afraid to be 426 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: close to him. I have multiple photos and videos of 427 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: how violent he can be and all the bruises he 428 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: has left me. Same guy in her own handwriting, and 429 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: I'm looking at a copy of it, She says. Abrego 430 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: Garcia punched and scratched her on the eye, left her 431 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: bleeding after throwing her laptop on the floor. She writes 432 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: that he got angry, started yelling, ripped her shirt and 433 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: shorts off, grabbed her arm, leaving marks. He in November 434 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, he hit me with his work boot. 435 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: In August he hit me in the eye, leaving a 436 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: purple eye. 437 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: She wants him back. 438 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: Can't get enough of that, huh, And he's an illegal 439 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: alien gang member. We got Conway coming up. Conway's coming 440 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: on in just a few minutes, so we'll be back tomorrow. 441 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: And we've got Michael Krozier live in the KFI twenty 442 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: four hour news run. Hey, you've been listening to the 443 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 2: John Covelt Show podcast. You can always hear the show 444 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: live on KFI Am six forty from one to four 445 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: pm every Monday through Friday. Of course, anytime on demand 446 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app.