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Speaker 1: Welcome back Bachelor Happy Hour listeners. Becca and I are

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Speaker 1: here today with our crossover episode with Ashley and Ben

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Speaker 1: from Almost Famous. We are so excited to be doing

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Speaker 1: this with you. We did part one on Almost Famous,

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Speaker 1: but now this is part two on Bachelor Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: and I think this is the first time we've had

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Speaker 1: you both together on here, so welcome. Before we get

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Speaker 1: into all of the fun questions, how are you both

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Speaker 1: doing good? I just got a crop shot of Ashley

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Speaker 1: and I've never the first time in five years, so

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Speaker 1: that that's happened, I was like, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do Actually, are so pumped to be here. We're a

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Speaker 1: should have been a team for five years and I

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Speaker 1: love ash like we've done this together every week. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we've ever I don't know if Ashley I've

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Speaker 1: ever done a different podcast interview together. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we've ever known. Yeah, that's so fun. I love the

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Speaker 1: first time for all. Do you ever get on each

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Speaker 1: other's nerves? Like, do you guys ever fight over that

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Speaker 1: five years or not? Really? It's weird. Probably he probably

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Speaker 1: has his well when he's like, Jesus, I don't this

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Speaker 1: woman won't shut out. I'm trying to ask the question.

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Speaker 1: She keeps asking questions. But besides that, I will say though,

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Speaker 1: like and just taking it back to a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago and Ben and I were on tour together.

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Speaker 1: The just the respect, like the level of respect and

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Speaker 1: admiration that he had for you, Ashley, and the friendship

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Speaker 1: that you guys had formed with something really special. Like

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Speaker 1: I remember you would call him at certain times and

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't hear what the conversation was, but it was

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Speaker 1: like to ask for certain bits of advice. I think

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Speaker 1: that's something so special, and that's why I love you both.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you guys have kind of paved the

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Speaker 1: way together, and that's why we're so happy to have

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Speaker 1: you both here, because Michelle and I can always learn

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Speaker 1: from other people, and she's as Ashley has still given

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Speaker 1: me a crunch shot. Yeah, it is true, though, I

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Speaker 1: mean we haven't really fought. I'm sure we get on

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Speaker 1: each other's nerves, not like to a point where it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I gotta get out of here. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's like a brother's sister relationship. And I would say

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Speaker 1: more than anything, and I'm just as we get started here.

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Speaker 1: I'm proud of Ashley and I and I hope you

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Speaker 1: two do the same thing where it's five years, Like

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Speaker 1: that's a long time to work alongside anybody in this

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Speaker 1: kind of space and still like enjoy doing it, get

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Speaker 1: along doing it, um, getting better ed, still doing it together.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm proud of us for being able

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Speaker 1: to do it. I guess to wine right now, cheers took.

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Speaker 1: But anybody who knows Ben knows that, like, you couldn't

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Speaker 1: be working with a more kind, understanding human. So I

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Speaker 1: mean any issue that ever arises between a podcast or

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Speaker 1: like in Bachelor Nation, he's the first person that you

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Speaker 1: can just talk it out with. Yeah, but I don't

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Speaker 1: even I don't know if I've ever met you in person. Correct,

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Speaker 1: I've met you only like on podcasts or like zoom situations.

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Speaker 1: But I remember coming back you were on when I

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Speaker 1: was on Matt season of The Bachelor. I think you

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Speaker 1: were on one of the group dates, is that correct?

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Speaker 1: And it was like one of the first group dates, right.

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Speaker 1: I came in the house late, Um, but all their

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Speaker 1: girls went and when they came back, when they came back,

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Speaker 1: Matt They're like, oh my god, Ben. Yeah, everybody was

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Speaker 1: just so excited that Ben was on the date because

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Speaker 1: he was so good beginning, he was so sweet. That happened.

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Speaker 1: I think I told you this, but when it was

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Speaker 1: already season, I think they were filming. It had to

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Speaker 1: have been like the Women Tell All or one of

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Speaker 1: the live specials that I wasn't at. And I remember

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Speaker 1: both well I don't want to say the names, but

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Speaker 1: two of my girlfriends who still friends, called me because

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Speaker 1: you were saying at the same hotel as them, and

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Speaker 1: you were going to the live special and so were they,

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Speaker 1: and they both called me at separate times where like

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Speaker 1: we just met Ben Higgins and I think he's single,

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Speaker 1: he's so hot, like screw Ari, maybe we just go

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Speaker 1: for Ben And I'm sitting there like so, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I've ever told you this. This is very awkward.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I will say from my own story, and now,

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Speaker 1: I remember when you came to my hotel room after

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Speaker 1: mentell all. If that sounds scandalous, but it was like

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Speaker 1: a couple select guys and girls from our respective seasons

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Speaker 1: can't in my hotel room and Ben and I were

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Speaker 1: talking out in the balcony, and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: can't believe that I'm talking to the Ben Higgins in

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Speaker 1: my hood, Like you were such a celebrity, because it

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Speaker 1: was so obvious you were the next Bachelor and one

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Speaker 1: of the most deserving batchlors I've ever had. Okay, oh,

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Speaker 1: how times have changed? Because I right before we started recording,

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Speaker 1: I was outside in my yard picking up dog poop

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Speaker 1: with a glove on because we're getting ready to travel.

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Speaker 1: The next thing I would say is, yeah, no, that

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Speaker 1: is true. Things things change. Maybe that was a bad example,

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Speaker 1: but things do change, Michelle. Half that date didn't get

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Speaker 1: I was like yelling like go faster, faster, like because

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Speaker 1: day didn't even air. So I'm glad I didn't. I

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Speaker 1: left that date going. I think I just scared every

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Speaker 1: single person on that day, because even the producers came

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Speaker 1: into my room and were like, you got really intense

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Speaker 1: out there. It's like, I don't know what got into me.

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Speaker 1: I've had a lot of fun with it, you know.

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Speaker 1: They everyone seemed to take it as like encouragement in

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Speaker 1: a good mental spot. That makes me feel better. I

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Speaker 1: love this. I feel like we could talk to you

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Speaker 1: guys just about anything and shoot this shit. But we

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Speaker 1: do want to get into just some fun topics because

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Speaker 1: we've all gone through this crazy world. And when we

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Speaker 1: ended actually your podcast, we ended up talking about the

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Speaker 1: upcoming season of The Boucherette and obviously we all recap

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Speaker 1: the show. What are both of your thoughts on having

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Speaker 1: the two leads? And I also want to add on

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Speaker 1: done several seasons and New were on Paradise and now

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Speaker 1: you're happily married from somebody that you went on the show,

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Speaker 1: and Benny were also a lead and now happily married.

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Speaker 1: What is some advice that you would give to both

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Speaker 1: and then anything once it's kind of done and allow

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Speaker 1: it in the open. What would you advise for them

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Speaker 1: at that point too? And you go first, okay, here

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Speaker 1: two bachelorettes? I originally did not like the idea. I

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Speaker 1: think for very similar reasons why everybody else didn't love

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Speaker 1: the idea. You're sharing this moment with somebody else. And

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Speaker 1: that's a hard place to put anybody into, especially when

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Speaker 1: this thing is brand new. I also didn't know how

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Speaker 1: the Bachelorette, there were two bachelorettes at the beginning, and

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Speaker 1: I think it was an experiment that didn't go well.

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Speaker 1: And as a cast member, it didn't feel great either,

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Speaker 1: because you just don't know these people, and like, how

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Speaker 1: with two people that are very different that I know

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Speaker 1: nothing about? And so I was concerned in summary about

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Speaker 1: this season, because how are you supposed to date and

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Speaker 1: period of time. Well, at the same time, there's somebody

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Speaker 1: else on the other side, so if things go bad,

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Speaker 1: From what I hear from the two bachelorettes themselves, I'm

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Speaker 1: more now excited and comfortable and like ready to watch

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Speaker 1: how this plays out. They feel. It feels like however

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Speaker 1: So that's kind of all I could say right now

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Speaker 1: is I am intrigued or excited to watch and less

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Speaker 1: to navigate like how to do it? The next I

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Speaker 1: I think it's two pieces. One, have a lot more

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Speaker 1: fun with it than you even think you're willing to have,

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Speaker 1: because this is a unique experience in life and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be stressful. It's gonna feel so serious, and it

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Speaker 1: my next piece of advice. Like, maybe not from the franchise.

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Speaker 1: been good to me. I have a unique story where

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Speaker 1: it's been good to me overall, but move on. We've

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Speaker 1: some of us. We have different star power, right, we

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Speaker 1: this will open up a whole new lane of opportunities.

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Speaker 1: But the fame will fade. The celebrity does fade, it

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Speaker 1: enjoy that ride too of going back to whatever life

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Speaker 1: we all get older. It's I love both of those bits. Actually,

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Speaker 1: what about you? I feel like I can never like

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Speaker 1: speak after Ben in those moments. And I will say

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Speaker 1: that my story on the Bachelor has been so unique

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Speaker 1: that I don't even know if I can give advice

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Speaker 1: her love and God, and I think her leaf that

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00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: people matter. But I also just think it's because she's

430
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: just special. So that's my favorite thing, is just living

431
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: with somebody who loves people really well. Well, what's awesome

432
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: about Jared and my relationship is I think that we

433
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: went through so much stuff, harder stuff early on, and

434
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: now it's really easy. You know, people go like marriage

435
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: is hard. It's like, well, I have to say we've

436
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: been blessed with thus far the three years we've been

437
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: married that it hasn't been hard, and I'm sure that

438
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: those years are going to come. I mean, it's just natural,

439
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 1: but it's we work as a team so well. Even

440
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: if it was like even before having kids, it's just

441
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: like a balance of like I don't know, there's like

442
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: all we were able to always find like a balance,

443
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 1: even if it's like running the household, and now with

444
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: him it's being a parent is not easy at all,

445
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: but Jared and I have been really great in parenting together.

446
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: It's just like we really share the responsibilities. And I'm

447
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: so lucky to have a man who believes in sharing

448
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: all responsibilities when it comes to that stuff, and he

449
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: loves it. And that's one of like the sweetest things

450
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: that I love about him is how much he loves

451
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: taking care of people, whether that's me. He's like a

452
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: big acts of service guy, like you know that he

453
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: like takes pride in like surprising me with like clean

454
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: bottles next to the baby food maker. And even before

455
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: we had Dawson, he'd get annoyed and like my mom

456
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: would take lowest out on box or like feed lowest

457
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: during COVID we really out of my parents for a

458
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: long time. He's like, that's my dog. I want to

459
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: take care of my dog. I love taking care of her.

460
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: And then that that's kind of that same way it

461
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: is with Dawson now, and it's just really cute. And

462
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: I just appreciate that he has like he just loves

463
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: to provide and take care of his family, and I

464
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: know that he gets up from his dad and that's

465
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 1: just one of them. It's just one of the many

466
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: things that I love to much about him. Play really

467
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: like you can. It plays a role in like our

468
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 1: day to day. Oh my gosh, Well, you both have

469
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: such incredible supportive partners. I'm lucky to say that because

470
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: I've met them both, but I don't even know the

471
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg of how incredible they both are.

472
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: But and I also love how you're saying this and

473
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: Dawson's just looking up at you, like with his big

474
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: beautiful eyes. I was looking at you, Becca because I'm like,

475
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: I know that. Look are you looking at it? Because

476
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: You're like, You'm to have this? And Thomas, I'm getting ready.

477
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm getting ready. You're like, but glowing this. This is

478
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: not about me, This is about you too. And we

479
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: always play games with any of our guests that we

480
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: have on so this is super fun. It's basically rapid fire. Um.

481
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: We thought we would test your machination knowledge since we've

482
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: all been in this world for quite a bit, and

483
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: this game is called who said it? So we're gonna

484
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: give you and we'll go every other. So I'll read

485
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: a sentence and Ben, you can answer who you think

486
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: it is and vice versa. But basically, we're gonna give

487
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: you an iconic quote. I'm either the Bachelor, bachelotte or

488
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: from somebody in Paradise, and you try to have to

489
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: you have to try to guess who said it. So

490
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: let's go Ben. First quote, somebody said, I've never been

491
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: this turned on in a high school before, Ben Higgins.

492
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: That's what I thought, Yeah, I remember how I had

493
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: high school. I thought these I would suck at this

494
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: game because I wouldn't know any of these. But that

495
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: was actually Jojoe Fletcher back in the day. Now, Actually,

496
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: this person said, my motto is under promise and over

497
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: deliver is bad. Ben, Nope, that one is from Dean.

498
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: That's okay, okay, I'll take the next one real quick.

499
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: Oh you got it? Okay, cool. If you want to

500
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: be with a woman, you have to become a real man.

501
00:26:54,560 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: Nick Vile. No, it's actually Hannah Ann. Oh wow wow Hannah,

502
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: And that was real. That was a good one. I

503
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: remember how amazing she was during that breakup scene, how

504
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: all the right things were coming out of her mouth. Yeah.

505
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, girl, you were saying everything I

506
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: wanted to say back in the day. Um okay, Ashley,

507
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: who said this one My biggest fear is the idea

508
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: that you could not be loved back or maybe possible

509
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: possibly unlovable. Oh well, we all know that this is bad.

510
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: I remember, jez Okay, got it. I do appreciate you

511
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: wanting to look out for me, but at the same time,

512
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: I can speak for myself. Mattie Pruett, No, that was

513
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: our girl, Michell, Yeah, that's solid. I was like, I

514
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: should have looked into Michelle's eyes when she said, because

515
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: I know she was sitting there being like, mmmmm, who

516
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: did you say? Who did you say? Was me? Honestly,

517
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: I feel like I said that several times to people

518
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: for myself. Um yeah, I don't even remember which situation

519
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: got aired, but I did say that. Okay, I thought

520
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: I knew what kind of man you were, what you

521
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: just made me go through. I would never want my

522
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: children having a father like you. Clare Crawley, Yeah, girl, Wow, Okay,

523
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: here's this one. I love sports, but I don't play games.

524
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: Come on, Michelle Young, Yeah no, no, any sports goes

525
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: to me. Rachel Lindsay, Oh, Rachel, I'm terrible at this game. Okay,

526
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: I've been a fool and I'm so sorry and I

527
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: want to make it up to you for the rest

528
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: of my life. Oh that's my husband. Yeah, yeah, yes,

529
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: I was just waiting for let's do the damn thing

530
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: to come up, and I was like, I know that one.

531
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: I know We're got to make these easier sometime. Damn

532
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: um YouTube. It has been so much fun to have

533
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: you you both on. That was way too short. I

534
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: just love catching up with you. I love just watching

535
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: both of your lives unfold, and they truly all worked out.

536
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: We've all been through weird shit in this franchise, through

537
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: all the ups and downs, but you have both found

538
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: incredible partners. It seems like you're just loving life, and

539
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: so we are so happy that you join us on

540
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Thank you so much, guys, This is really fun,

541
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: and thank you Dawson for joining us too. Buddy and

542
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: Dawson at even pretty so precious. We'll be hosting in

543
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: no time. Oh, I know, what a fun top of

544
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: the episode. I'm so glad that Ben and Ashley were

545
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: able to join us on Happy Hour. Such a fun

546
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: crossover and truly one that you know, like Bennett said,

547
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: like something we didn't expect to happen between two podcasts.

548
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: But it's great to see them, I think for us

549
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: to Michelle, like we're very fresh working on Happy Hour

550
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: together and they've been doing this for five years, so

551
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: it's fun to see how they operate together. I mean,

552
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: they know each other so well, and who knows, maybe

553
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: we can get there one day together too. Oh we'll

554
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: get there. We'll get there. No, They're just so uplifting

555
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: and it's like that was just such a good, like

556
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: feel good episode, right yeah, but really it has been.

557
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: It has been a minute. Hello happy our listeners. I

558
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: really have missed being on here with you, Becca, and

559
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: I do appreciate you taking over, as there's been a

560
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: lot going on and I really didn't need to step

561
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: away for a minute too, just kind of focus on myself,

562
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: So thank you. But I am back and I'm super

563
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: excited to be back. Well, I'm excited to hear this

564
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: voice again. I for one have missed it, and I

565
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: know our listeners have missed hearing you too. It's and

566
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: my heart goes out to you because I know what

567
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: it's like to go through not only a breakup, but

568
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: a very public one at that. And so we kept

569
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: saying week after week, like, take the time, the space

570
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: that you need. We hope that you felt supportive, supported

571
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: and loved from Afar and I you did. I think

572
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: what is probably the best thing anyone could do in

573
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: your position is you said I need a reset, I

574
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: need a change of scenery. And so you took off

575
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: for a week and went on what looks like a

576
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: beautiful vacation in Iceland. So let's start on a high

577
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: note and talk about that fun little girls trip that

578
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: you had. Yeah, well, you know, I really love traveling.

579
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: It's something that I've always loved to do and I

580
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: want to do more of. And it's been a really busy,

581
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: you know, past few years with everything. But I'm also

582
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: a very spontaneous person and my friends have come to

583
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: learn that. And so as this was unfolding, like this

584
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: had been just a lot of emotions for a decent

585
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: amount of time. You know, I had two friends, Brooke

586
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: and Tea, who really were with me nearly every day

587
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: with my family just kind of trying to work through

588
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: all this, and I just said, like I just I

589
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: want to get out. I want to get out, I

590
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: want to disconnect. Um. And so it was like a

591
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: Thursday night when we bought tickets to Iceland and then

592
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: we left on like Monday morning or like Monday midday.

593
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: So it was a super quick turnaround. Um, but I

594
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: it was. It was amazing. It was probably like the

595
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: best thing that I could have done, um to just

596
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: completely get some fresh air and you know, out in

597
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: nature and like that that amazing reset and feeling like

598
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: I'm honestly on a whole different planet because if have

599
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: you ever been to Iceland? No, but I want to.

600
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: It looks stunned, all right, absolutely sunny personal tour guide

601
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: and hell yeah miss back. But um no, I love Thomas,

602
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: but I don't want him. I want us. I want you.

603
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: I got you. No, it won It's only like five

604
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: and a half hours. It's like a flight from Minneapolis,

605
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: so it's not really that far. But um, I sat

606
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: down one day and like spent maybe like four or

607
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: five hours just planning the whole trip, because like when

608
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: I go on vacation, my I have like two modes.

609
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: It's like vacation where I'm bopping around doing all bunch

610
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: of activities, or were like I'm in a resort, all

611
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: inclusive on the beach pool every day, right full on

612
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: tourists or full on relaxation. Of course, like I hopped

613
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: on Google, I did my research, um, and so we

614
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: ended up flying in. We rented a car. We like

615
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: drove three hours out and we just started working our

616
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: way back in and so we did a tving like

617
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: on black sand beaches. We got to see like these

618
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: beautiful like waterfalls. Um, it was incredible. We got to

619
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: go to the Blue Lagoon, we got to see these

620
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: beautiful sunsets, and just like every corner that you turned

621
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: there was some different type of scenery. It was just

622
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: it was truly amazing. Um. You know when you're like

623
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: sitting on your couch and then your TV kind of

624
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: goes into sleep mode and you see all of those

625
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: like beautiful places like postcard posts crossing your TV. Ye.

626
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: So this is where I got the idea of Iceland

627
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: because I really loved like the purple flowers that just

628
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: like cover the fields and they're called I think lupines

629
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: is the correct pronunciation. It's like the flower, right, and

630
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: so I'm like, I want to go see the purple flowers.

631
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: So like literally that that's like what I've been saying

632
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: to my friends. I want to see the purple flowers.

633
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: I want to see the purple flowers. I was going

634
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: to ask you what your info was to pick Iceland.

635
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: Have you ever read The Lupine Lady The Blow? Oh

636
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: you should? What is it about. It's about this lady

637
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: who plants lupines everywhere. Really, it was like one of

638
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: my favorite children's books growing up. Oh you are the

639
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: Lupine Lady. I can't say credit for that beauty. I'm

640
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: planning all those things, but yeah, I'm like, I want

641
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: to go see the purple flowers. So of course, like

642
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: my friends are like, okay, we're buying last minute tickets

643
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: to go see flowers, right, love, Like I'm saying that

644
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: there's the end of the other scenery there and stuff. Um,

645
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: but apparently so like these lou pins grow and there's

646
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: only they're only blooming for like like two to three weeks,

647
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: and we got there and hid it in its prime,

648
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: so they were everywhere. So I was just I was

649
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: so happy and it was just so amazing to be

650
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: able to go on these hikes and hot springs and

651
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: just be able to like set my phone down and

652
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: really just live and travel and reflect and feel the

653
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: emotions that I was going to feel. And you know,

654
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: it was really nice to have my friends there to

655
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: work through those tough emotions at times until so like

656
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: embrace the special moments and the uplifting moments during a

657
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: really difficult time as well. And so it was exactly

658
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: what I needed. And I came back exhausted because you know,

659
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't think we slept too much at all, and

660
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: there was like only like three hours of not even darkness,

661
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: but like we're the sunset for maybe three hours because

662
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: it's like the longest time of the year. So we'd

663
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: be like hiking up a mountain, Um it'd be at

664
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: two am and we didn't even realize it was two am,

665
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: and then we'd get back down. I'm like, I'm tired,

666
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: you're tired. What time it is? Time is it? And

667
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: it's like two am, and it's like crap. I mean,

668
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: like when the sun is like you know what even yea,

669
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: the Sun's just it's just always light out. But I

670
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: would highly, highly highly recommend it because it was just

671
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: such a cool experience and being able to travel and

672
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: pull over and take pictures. And luckily one of my friends, Tia,

673
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: she's a really good photographer, so she had her camera

674
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: and I saw some of your pictures. Girl, you looked

675
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: she had her field day, Like she's like, this is

676
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: my dream to like be in this environment. And I

677
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like if you PLoP anybody out

678
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: in a field of blue pine, purple flowers with like

679
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: the dark, cloudy sky and a mountain and a waterfall

680
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: behind him, like I'm sorry, like everyone's gonna lookoder. Yeah,

681
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: but it was and her photography skills, but but it was.

682
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: It was. It was a pretty cool experience and it

683
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: could not have gone better. And obviously there were definitely

684
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: bumps in the road as we went along, but it

685
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: was just it was a trip where I'm gonna definitely

686
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: remember that. Yeah. I think there's something so beautiful that

687
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: like in your hardest moments you can still make the

688
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 1: most and find beauty. Like there's something to be said

689
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: for I mean, and I've said this about like when

690
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: people have passed my life, like when I'm grieving a death,

691
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: which is kind of the same as a relationship, like

692
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: you're grieving the death of a future and this relationship

693
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: that you thought he would always have to just have

694
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: a change of pace and go somewhere for how little

695
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: or as long as you want, where it's just focus

696
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: solely on you and what you need to get on

697
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: and heal from this, and to have something that doesn't

698
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: remind you of the past and does it remind you

699
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: of like kind of what you were going through back home.

700
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: And so I'm really glad, I mean, thank goodness for

701
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: your two friends too, that you guys could just pack

702
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: up and say, how yeah, we're gonna do this, like

703
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: I think it's working from home, yeah, right, But I

704
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: think for me it was definitely more of so just

705
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: when the breakup happened and coming out with a statement,

706
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: there's just there's so many different like anxieties, right, Like

707
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm yes, the public is going to be part of it. Yes,

708
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: people are going to know about it and all these

709
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: different things, but like, holy crap, my heart was like

710
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: I just lost my fiance, Like I thought I was

711
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: going to have this life with this person, and then

712
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: you know kind of had to just truly embrace and

713
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: realize like I can only control what I'm can control,

714
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: and for me, I didn't want to come back to

715
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of anxiety of like I ran away from things,

716
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: and so I kept telling my friends It's like I

717
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: really want to go somewhere, but like, emotionally, I need

718
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: to get to a point where I have dealt with

719
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: this head on. Doesn't mean that I'm perfectly fine, right,

720
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: but like, I've dealt with this to the point where

721
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: I know that I'm not running away from it because

722
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: I hate you know when you are. I don't know

723
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: if you've ever felt like this backup, but like when

724
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: something happens, or you go through a breakup, or you're

725
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: going through like a really anxious time and you're out

726
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: grocery shopping or you're out hanging with friends or whatever,

727
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: but like you are aware that you are out doing

728
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: that just to distract you from what's going on. Right,

729
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: Have you ever felt that way before? So often I

730
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: dislike that feeling. That feeling is so uncomfortable to me,

731
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, I'm feeling these emotions intensely. It's

732
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: going to come with waves. I'm going to make sure

733
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: that I'm acknowledging, like one how I'm speaking to myself

734
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: how all those thoughts are coming into my mind and

735
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: then what I need to say or what I need

736
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: to do to let them pass and to let them go,

737
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: and really like truly realize that these things are going

738
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: to like these thoughts, these feelings, these really strong emotions,

739
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: this pain, it's okay, but it's going to come and

740
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: go in waves. And I just think, honestly, what has

741
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: and so amazing is that I've one really been vulnerable

742
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: with my family and friends, probably more vulnerable than I've

743
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: ever been about not taking that on myself and really

744
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: vocally acknowledging when those waves are coming, and then we

745
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 1: deal with them, like my friends and I we deal

746
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: with them and my family and then acknowledging them once

747
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: they pass, and my friends also letting those things pass.

748
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: And so it's a perfect, perfect explanation out like life's

749
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: a roller coaster. And definitely had people by my side

750
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: who are sitting front seat with me the whole entire way. Yeah,

751
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: you have such a great support system. And I've talked

752
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 1: to you know, some of your girlfriends through this, and

753
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: you and I have had some conversations too, and I

754
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: know that this is kind of the first time that

755
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: you've sat down and you've been more open about your

756
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: experience in this past month, and you know, we'll have

757
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: a conversation and I want you to only share where

758
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable with sharing. And we've all seen like

759
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: the statements out there right like this is the first

760
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: time where you finally have your side of things, your voice,

761
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: and I hope that you want to use that if

762
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: you feel comfortable getting into just you in general and

763
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: how you've kind of changed throughout this past month. Like

764
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: we've talked a little bit about what you are feeling

765
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: the ups and the downs in this roller coaster, and

766
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, everyone handles grief and break up in a

767
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: different way. But besides like feeling just I'm sure what

768
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: is probably sadness at times and heartbreak at times, Like

769
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: what else have you been feeling? Like what are prominent

770
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: that you feel okay with sharing with our listeners. Yeah,

771
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: this has been incredibly tricky, just because you know, kind

772
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: of when I spoke with Bettan Ashley about they're like, well,

773
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: did you see this coming? As you know anything like that,

774
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: and it's like this, this is nothing that I necessarily

775
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 1: plan for in my summer to be working through definitely

776
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: came at a difficult time with trying to get through

777
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: the end of the school year and you know, setting

778
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: that down and also dealing with those emotions of having

779
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: to step away from something that I am passionate about

780
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: because it's a healthy thing to do right now. And

781
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: I think the thing that has been the most difficult

782
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: part is just acknowledging that everybody deals with breakups differently,

783
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: but having my friends and family hurt along with me

784
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: with how this all kind of has been handled, and

785
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: it's not easy. And you know, I know that Nate

786
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: and I have talked a lot about you know, we

787
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: don't we both don't believe in burning bridges. I do

788
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 1: not believe in that as well. I have definitely had

789
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: to take some space from social media, from responding to

790
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: text messages, from responding to just dms, just to disconnect,

791
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: to protect my energy, to protect my peace and really

792
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: make sure that I'm taking care of myself because this

793
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: has been hard. This has been hard, This has been

794
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: hurtful in many ways, and I want to make sure

795
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: that I'm taking the correct steps to heal and to

796
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: move forward and put that energy into focusing on myself

797
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: and move forward. And redirect and by stepping away after

798
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: the breakup socially, social media and everything like, that's how

799
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that. You know. I can't pop

800
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: on socially and smile and pretend like I'm okay, And

801
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: I also will tell you when I'm not, but definitely

802
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: needing that time and appreciating that respect to have that

803
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:16,720
Speaker 1: time to take care of myself. And you are such

804
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: a strong, self aware woman. That's very apparent with I'm

805
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: sure anyone who comes in contact with you, who listens

806
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: to you speak, and I would hope that through all

807
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: of this, like you have always cared so much about others,

808
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: and you have always poured your heart and soul and

809
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: kindness into others, and just for me as a bystander

810
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: and a friend to not fully see that always reciprocated,

811
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: I think it is difficult just never forget. You have

812
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: so much support in me, everyone behind you running this podcast,

813
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: so much support in your friends and family. We all

814
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: love you, and it's been hard enough that now I

815
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: want to kind of take this and leave you on

816
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: a I know it and build you up because you

817
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: are so freaking incredible and you truly deserve the world

818
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: and all of the happiness in yourself and in a

819
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: future partner one day. So right now, and I know

820
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: it's going to be very hard to probably answer this

821
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: and even be able to comprehend like what's next for you?

822
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: But really like, right now, what do you think is

823
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: next for you? If you could share anything as a

824
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: learning lesson from this entire experience, what would that be. Oh,

825
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: it's so such like a unique position to be in

826
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: because I feel like my entire life, like I knew

827
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: what I was and I'll explain that in a second.

828
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: I knew what I was or what I was going

829
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: for right, Like I was training because I wanted to

830
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: be play Division one basketball in college, right, and so

831
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, you get to that mile marker. And then

832
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: as I was going through college, I wanted to be

833
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: a teacher, wanted to work in education, and so then

834
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: I did that. And then me still having that passion

835
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: for education, but also being burnt out and realizing that

836
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: this is going to be a very difficult task to

837
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: step outside of the classroom, not necessarily outside of education,

838
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: but outside the classroom. Um and you know, not really

839
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: know exactly where I'm going, but also having so many

840
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: different ideas and passions of where I could potentially go. Um,

841
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: and then like the other day, the other day, my

842
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: mom asked, has asked me, like now what and I'm like, shit, Mom,

843
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: I have no life plans, like should what? Would do? No?

844
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: Jokingly right? But um. But I even though like that

845
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: anxiety will pass every once in a while that like

846
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: that whole like what is that saying life is your oyster?

847
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: And there's times there was like does the world is

848
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: your oyster? There we go. So it's like there's times

849
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: where I'm like, the world is your oyster? Like oh

850
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: my god, and then I'm like, yeah, the world is

851
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: my oyster. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like it

852
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: kind of goes back and forth. But for me, it's

853
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: just really putting steps in a direction to take care

854
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Speaker 1: of myself, to focus on myself because I've never really

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Speaker 1: truly done that before. Find my inner peace, find my happiness,

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Speaker 1: and find what's next, like with what I'm passionate about.

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Speaker 1: And the great thing is that, like I'm passionate about

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Speaker 1: so many different things, from you know, fitness to giving

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Speaker 1: back to working with kids to inspiring the youth, all

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Speaker 1: these different things. There's so many things that I can

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Speaker 1: do with those, I just need to figure out what

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Speaker 1: and also could be all of them. And so it's terrifying.

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Speaker 1: It's terrifying. Yeah, it's terrifying at times, but this is

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Speaker 1: truly a situation where I'm now betting on myself and

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Speaker 1: I do. I do believe in myself, and I have

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Speaker 1: people who are very close to me who also believe

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Speaker 1: in me, and that's truly all that I need. You know,

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Speaker 1: if I if I believe it, I'm good. And Michelle

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Speaker 1: Young will be back, yes if yeah, And I have

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Speaker 1: no doubt you out of anyone who would say those words,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, she's she Like I worry about you

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Speaker 1: just as a friend, because I never want anyone to

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Speaker 1: like go through this, but you, out of anyone, will

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Speaker 1: find the silver lining and be better than when you

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Speaker 1: start it right And you kept saying on your season

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Speaker 1: you want to change the world, And is that still

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Speaker 1: the case? Yeah? And yeah, and like that is something

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Speaker 1: that I've thought about that it doesn't matter if I'm

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00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: who's in the picture, who's not in the picture. Those

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Speaker 1: things of like those passions of what I believe I'm

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00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: here to do are not changing. And so that's kind

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Speaker 1: of where my energy and focus goes right now, and

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Speaker 1: that's okay. I think that's a really good thing. It

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Speaker 1: is a great thing, Michelle. I absolutely love you. I

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Speaker 1: know that this entire conversation was not easy. It's hard,

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Speaker 1: especially coming back to taking a few weeks off, but

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you did, and I hope that

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Speaker 1: this can still be a fun weekly thing where you

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00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: can just kind of get out of you know, your

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Speaker 1: life and what you're going through and just still have

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Speaker 1: fun with it because we actually, we absolutely love having

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Speaker 1: you here. So thank you for coming back, Michelle. We

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Speaker 1: missed you. I love you too, and I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: to have you Becca. And I'm also really excited to

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00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: be able to like put so much energy just into

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00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: the podcast because you know, teaching and podcasting and traveling

897
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: and all these different things. It's been. It's been a lot,

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Speaker 1: and so not saying that my life will slow down anything,

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Speaker 1: because I usually figure out how to fill my time,

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Speaker 1: but I'm so happy to have this every week. I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy that we can jump on and have the listeners,

902
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: you know, keeping up to date with where we are at,

903
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Speaker 1: and then also turning that focus to Gabby and Rachel

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Speaker 1: as we watch this new season coming up next week.

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Speaker 1: It's wild and I mean you have been through this world,

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Speaker 1: you know, and there's no better people. I think that

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Speaker 1: Gabby and Rachel could look up to than you for this. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be an interesting season, but I'm glad

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Speaker 1: that you are here with me doing this. It's it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be one for the books. Um, So don't forget.

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Speaker 1: As Michelle just said, their season starts next freaking week.

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Speaker 1: How wild is that it's coming up? We got seven

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Speaker 1: more days before it begins, so we gotta get our

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Speaker 1: asses in gear. Michelle, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, I'm passing that.

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Speaker 1: God dang baton. Yes, we can have it anymore. Rachelle

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Speaker 1: so glad to have you back. Thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: us again and I'm never letting you leave me ever again.

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Speaker 1: I will love to leave you. And also a huge

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Speaker 1: thank you to Ben and Ashley. Was such a fun

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Speaker 1: crossover episode. Don't forget to Well, first listen to Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: but then you can also listen to the almost famous podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and just like ours, you can catch the podcast on

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Speaker 1: Wondering Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondering App. Thank you, Bachelor,

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Speaker 1: Happy our listeners, and we will see you next week.