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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Wanna throw by Kyler Murray facing pressure Connor to the

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Speaker 3: five and end of the end zone for the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: He said, touchdown.

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown, Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 4: Oh that was nasty right there.

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Speaker 3: Rights slam the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 3: He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: We are gathered here today at Cardinals camp twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five moments ago, and he said, the big hammer is

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Speaker 2: my ISO, so we know we're absolutely ready to go here,

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Speaker 2: Paul Calvic, Darren.

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Speaker 5: Urban's not giving any context.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to start actually with how the first padded

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Speaker 2: practice ended, which I think says it all in training camp.

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Speaker 2: Here's the following do you guys, hear this. We're all

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Speaker 2: standing in the same general area. It was third string

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Speaker 2: against third string. Might have been four string against four string.

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Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure, but the very last play from

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Speaker 2: scrimmage was a spectacular touchdown catch in the back of

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Speaker 2: the end zone, and a very prominent player I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: protect the names of the innocent here behind us yelled out, Wow, touchdown,

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Speaker 2: great catch. What's that guy's name again? Literally didn't know

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Speaker 2: the receiver's name. I didn't get much of a reaction

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Speaker 2: on this.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to rain on anybody's parade, but both

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Speaker 6: referees called him out of bounce.

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Speaker 5: Wow, And I also don't want to rain on your parade.

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Speaker 7: I was not able to be there at that time

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Speaker 7: because I was getting set up for a sit down

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Speaker 7: in a but I take your.

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Speaker 4: Word it was.

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Speaker 6: It was a spectacular catch. Was it by uh, I'm

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Speaker 6: trying to remember. Was it Quiz Watkins? Was it Tristan Jackson?

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Speaker 2: So you know what that little anecdote, that play by play,

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Speaker 2: that to me sums up training camp, any training camp,

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Speaker 2: is actually further illuminating because Darren shuts me down with

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Speaker 2: the particulars right he tells me that technically I'm wrong,

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Speaker 2: and then Danny big times me by saying I was

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Speaker 2: or something. She spared me the name on that one,

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Speaker 2: what that does sort of summarize where we are here

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Speaker 5: We have funny here at State Farm Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Don't Paul, Danny, we'll get into a certain outtake that

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Speaker 2: you tweeted out a little bit later. Not really sure

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Speaker 2: if there's an agenda. I don't need any help looking bad.

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Speaker 2: I'll just say that we have the rest of cardinals

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Speaker 2: underground for yours truly to look bad?

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Speaker 4: Can we?

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Speaker 6: Speaking of looking excellent, you have not shaven your mustache yet.

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Speaker 6: You said our last recording that it was probably gonna

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Speaker 6: be gone by now, and it is still there. Well,

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Speaker 6: I and drawing plot.

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Speaker 4: It's all over the place. I've noticed.

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Speaker 2: Well, I went up the food chain of decision makers

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Speaker 2: just to see there's a little event on Sunday in

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Speaker 2: rid of it by day? They said no, you know,

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Speaker 2: Dave Pash is going to hand to Ireland for Week

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Speaker 2: zero in college football, you might want to lose it

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Speaker 2: by the time the TV broadcast against the Raiders, and

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Speaker 2: I said, okay, I'll take that as more than just

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Speaker 2: a little hint. So that's that's sort of the game

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Speaker 2: under advisement. You know what we're doing. So the clock

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Speaker 2: is ticking. But once again, nothing says training camp like

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Speaker 2: where do certain players stand. I'll give you two quick takeaways.

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Speaker 2: You guys can agree or disagree here Cardinals underground, I

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Speaker 2: know you will. Everyone's mission and objective is to be

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Speaker 2: put him in bubble wrap right now. And then there

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Speaker 2: but I sort of look at Khalais I go, you

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Speaker 2: six weeks to go. You know, he's sort of getting himself.

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Speaker 2: He knows where he needs to be at what point,

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Speaker 4: No, I think, you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 6: After that first pat of practice, it was Kyler Murray's

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Speaker 4: And I don't think he was thrilled about that.

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Speaker 6: The one thing I noticed with the pads was that

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Speaker 4: And when we talk.

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Speaker 6: About the pads, like, yeah, it's crazy that we're putting

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Speaker 7: It's interesting in camp of what we are watching is

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Speaker 7: we don't know the true goal of certain drills. There

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Speaker 7: or they are working on something so particular that you're thinking,

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Speaker 7: was he was tasked with going through and hitting his

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Speaker 7: third read right. So there's so many things that we

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Speaker 7: don't truly know when we are watching practice. From what

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Speaker 7: we could see, the defense is what shined in that

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Speaker 7: first padded practice. I mean in team drills, they were

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Speaker 7: I say getting pressure because it's still such limited contact, right,

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Speaker 7: nobody's going near any quarterback, but the defense was getting

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Speaker 4: I'm going to just quick thing.

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Speaker 6: Jonathan Gannon has already mentioned what two or three times

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Speaker 7: What I do want to keep my eye on when

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Speaker 7: we're doing team drills is who is earning first team reps.

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Speaker 7: It's not solidified this early into training camp, especially this

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Speaker 5: What it does tell you.

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Speaker 7: Is who is picking things up physically mentally to go

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Speaker 7: that is big. When you see it's outside linebacker Baron

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Speaker 7: you can really gather from these early team drills, what

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Speaker 2: Is there any position more contester right now than the

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Speaker 2: of of the number of guys who have run first

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Speaker 2: team with Mac Wilson Senior. I mean, let's name names

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Speaker 2: right here. It's everyone from Owen Papo to a Keen

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Speaker 2: Davis Gather. You've seen Cody Simon, We even saw Xavon Collins.

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Speaker 6: I know, I'm surprised you didn't lead with that, Paul.

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Speaker 6: I was expecting to bring that up right away.

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Speaker 2: You know, I just I didn't want to, you know,

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Speaker 2: save the flex for a little bit later on the whole.

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Speaker 2: Zavon Collins, I don't know, it's two three months ago.

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Speaker 2: We identified it and got we really, you know, got

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Speaker 2: shouted down around here on Cardinals Underground, is Paul, where's

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Speaker 2: your ven mits some sort of hot take, But no,

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Speaker 2: when you were so loaded along that defensive front, if

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Speaker 2: you're looking to get your best dudes on the field

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Speaker 2: at all time, your best eleven and then all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, wait a minute, Zaven Collins has the ability

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Speaker 2: he probably will, and Nick rollis we know he is

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Speaker 2: different positions at different times, right. I mean, all of

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Speaker 2: out the air raid signal at this point when when

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Speaker 6: Well, just so you know, the air raid signal is

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Speaker 6: not like whatever is going on in the background as

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Speaker 4: Hearing whatever they're working on in the stadium.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, this is this is real time stuff

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Speaker 6: It's not the garbage trucks all right outside the dorm

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Speaker 6: and the original underground, but it's it's closed.

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Speaker 2: It's a good's it's a good throwback right there. I mean,

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Speaker 7: What I do find interesting when you're talking about middle

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Speaker 2: Good point?

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Speaker 7: Wait, we talked about but if you're going to talk

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Speaker 7: Because when you're not having Starling Thomas, who was placed

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Speaker 7: and I think we're going to see Garrett Williams play

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Speaker 6: I think I think a he was in my opinion,

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Speaker 6: he was always going to do that even before Starling

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Speaker 6: Thomas got hurt.

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Speaker 4: Really yeah, I do think, not as much as he's

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Speaker 6: And I absolutely believe based on how they've been lining

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Speaker 6: I've noticed that every time they've lined up in Bay,

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Speaker 6: You know, Garrett Williams was making the point the other

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Speaker 6: And that's and that's kind of what I was thinking

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Speaker 7: Absolutely that you're going to get good reps, whether that

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Speaker 7: That's the name of the game. It's the unfortunate part

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Speaker 6: I it's it's interesting, it's very it's he didn't say

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Speaker 6: We knew that, but usually coaches don't say that, and

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Speaker 2: Me by the way the little bit of intel have

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Speaker 4: They love their versatility.

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Speaker 2: They love that. Elijah Jones bigger corner, not so much

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Speaker 2: But he's long, lanky, I mean, his measurables, his skill

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Speaker 2: He's really a rookie all over again. Elijah Jones, after

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Speaker 6: It was funny watching at the first pat of practice

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Speaker 4: And he made the play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the ones, I mean you got to cover.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know you're just getting roasted. Yes, it's

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Speaker 2: There were some heavyweight bouts Dalvin Tomlinson against Yelda Froholt. Yes,

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Speaker 5: Hole held his own.

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Speaker 7: He did because Paris Johnson Junior earlier in the week

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Speaker 6: I know we're gonna we'll probably touch on a q

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Speaker 4: He's a guy who brokes. He loves Yell defro hold.

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Speaker 6: He was mentioning it before we started recording today on

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Speaker 6: And it's really amazing as we talk about it, and

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Speaker 6: Who's gonna is John Gaines gonna be their sent like?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a big red rage. Thursday night, we

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Speaker 2: Are you buying three twenty five the listed weight for

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Speaker 2: speaking a Q Shipley, how many times off the record

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Speaker 2: Like the amount of fudging they do on the listed

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Speaker 2: Well and look, this is what makes him an NFL player,

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Speaker 2: see him now, Okay, yelled a Frohold. Check that box

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Speaker 2: your regular season ready, you know, go stand over there

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Speaker 2: Tomlinson against Isaiah Adams next, Isaiah Adams against Kalais was

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna admit that right now, Polly Pencilneck. But it's

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Speaker 7: The first head to head between Campbell and Adams, Adams

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Speaker 6: to pick two areas where they built up enough that

436
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Speaker 6: they could sustain a single injury, those are the two places.

437
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Speaker 2: I was talking about. Defensive line. No one was talking

438
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 2: nearly enough about Elijah Simmons until we named him our

439
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Speaker 2: poly pigskin breakout player a camp.

440
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Speaker 5: How about you have one, Ladies and gentlemen.

441
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Speaker 2: He did his homework, just beat the deadline. I would

442
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Speaker 2: say it was approximately two and a half minutes before

443
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Speaker 2: the first padded practice commenced. We sent out there Elijah

444
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Speaker 2: Simmons the nose tackle six one, three thirty five. We

445
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Speaker 2: would like a more accurate reading on that weight. By

446
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Speaker 2: the way, the rookie out of Tennessee and then the

447
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Speaker 2: seventh round pick, Keaton Crawford. So those were the Those

448
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Speaker 2: are the two guys, at least the vibe I get

449
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Speaker 2: on the sideline. Players no players, coaches, no players. Those

450
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Speaker 2: are the two guys are most interested to see.

451
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Speaker 6: I'll be honest, I've noticed Crawford quite a bit. Now

452
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Speaker 6: he's obviously playing down the depth chart, but I feel

453
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Speaker 6: like I've noticed him and the fact that he was

454
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Speaker 6: so good on special teams. I think you're looking for

455
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Speaker 6: a young guy to make the team on special teams

456
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Speaker 6: if that's possible. Simmons is going to be in a

457
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Speaker 6: whole different world because of what we were just talking about.

458
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Speaker 6: I mean, we're talking about Dante Stills having a fight

459
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Speaker 6: for a place. Elijah Simmons is going to be tough,

460
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Speaker 6: but I know they really really liked him. During the draft.

461
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Speaker 6: He was he nearly was one other draft pick, so

462
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Speaker 6: to get him undrafted was pretty big.

463
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Speaker 7: Simmons had good reps one on one against rookie Hayden Connor.

464
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Speaker 7: What's interesting is to not spoil the whole interview, but

465
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Speaker 7: I did have a chance to sit down and talk

466
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Speaker 7: with defensive line coach coach Debo.

467
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Speaker 2: Who was he wearing the cleats?

468
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Speaker 7: He was not wearing them. He doesn't wear cleats in practice.

469
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Speaker 7: It is a hands on approach doing the drills.

470
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Speaker 5: With his players.

471
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Speaker 7: And I asked him, I said, which player do you

472
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Speaker 7: jump out of the way a hair early, no hesitation.

473
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Speaker 7: Elijah Simmons Really that was the name he mentioned.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

475
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Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, I feel better about that right now. But

476
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Speaker 2: as far as Keen Crawford goes and we'll move on.

477
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Speaker 2: Just one quick thought on the seventh round or don't

478
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Speaker 2: forget Cardinals last year lost Zach Paskeal, Yeah, Dennis Gardek,

479
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Speaker 2: Jesse Luketta. It was the released three guys who played

480
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Speaker 2: all the special teams. They played all four special teams.

481
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Speaker 2: I mean, those were some of Jeff Rogers stalwarts on teams.

482
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Speaker 7: And it's hard enough for Rabbit to find playing time

483
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Speaker 7: in a room with players as successful and skilled as

484
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Speaker 7: Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson. Special teams as a great

485
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Speaker 7: way to find your spot on the roster.

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Speaker 2: All right, should we get culture, Danny? What do you think?

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Speaker 5: Let's do it?

488
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Speaker 6: Can you just say? Am I the philistine here? Because

489
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Speaker 6: we don't have the intro?

490
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Speaker 2: I'm always the philistine.

491
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Speaker 7: We don't have the intro music because we are from

492
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Speaker 7: the stadium. Okay, well, everybody just take a second think

493
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Speaker 7: about the intro in your head?

494
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Speaker 4: Are you going to see all there?

495
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Speaker 5: Let's go, Let's go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, check Danny's Twitter account. I was most definitely

497
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Speaker 2: the philistine trying to make spores. Oh my goodness, hashtag.

498
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Speaker 2: It can always get worse.

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Speaker 7: First on the list, how about a little Love Island,

500
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Speaker 7: but not the most recent season season seven? Going back

501
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Speaker 7: last year Season six, which is the group that really

502
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Speaker 7: put the US version on the map, finalists and fan

503
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Speaker 7: favorites Jenny and Kenny have seemingly split and it has

504
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Speaker 7: caused the uproar amongst people who follow Love Island. There

505
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Speaker 7: was a group of six very close friends all the finalists.

506
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Speaker 5: All five of.

507
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Speaker 7: Them, including the men and the TV host of Love Island,

508
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Speaker 7: have unfollowed Kenny on Instagram. The influencer whose party they

509
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 7: were out unfollowed him. People don't know what exactly went down,

510
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 7: Rumors of possible cheating or liking other women's photos online.

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Speaker 5: People are very curious. I will keep you both updated.

512
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Speaker 4: I will have to.

513
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Speaker 6: Say the the the humanity, the narrative just in general

514
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Speaker 6: of the unfollowing. Uh, I'm not just this like anybody

515
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Speaker 6: when we because we talk about sports, there was all

516
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Speaker 6: the time like, oh that.

517
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Speaker 4: Player unfollowed the team. Something's wrong. It's just it's amazing

518
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Speaker 4: how that's a harbor.

519
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Speaker 5: Admit, I hate that, but it is what it is.

520
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Speaker 5: That's the world.

521
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Speaker 4: We people talk about it, or that they unfollow that

522
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Speaker 4: it's as.

523
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Speaker 5: Big of a deal as it is to unfollow.

524
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Speaker 4: Danny wants to unfollow people in silence.

525
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Speaker 5: And she does.

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Speaker 2: Do you think, like, okay, so that those are I mean,

527
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Speaker 2: I don't know what qualifies as a long lasting relationship

528
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Speaker 2: in terms of Love Island, because we're obviously grading on

529
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Speaker 2: a curve. To me, if they lasted a year, I

530
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 2: mean that's that's like a whole contents right there.

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Speaker 5: Right, I mean, come on the next one.

532
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Speaker 7: It's hard for me to have any sort of hard

533
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 7: feelings towards Beyonce, but I do have a little. She

534
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Speaker 7: ended her Cowboy Carter tour in Vegas a few days ago.

535
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Speaker 7: I actually saw her in Houston about a month ago,

536
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Speaker 7: which was a fantastic performance, possibly the best live performance

537
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Speaker 7: I have ever seen.

538
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Speaker 2: Wow.

539
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Speaker 7: However, she waited until her last two shows in Vegas

540
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Speaker 7: to bring out the big guns of celebrities. She reunited

541
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Speaker 7: Destiny's Child, which is the girl bands of all girl bands,

542
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Speaker 7: and they looked and sounded incredible. They are still in

543
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Speaker 7: sync with not only they're stepping, but the heigh difference

544
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Speaker 7: of their heel to the stage.

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Speaker 5: They still have it.

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Speaker 4: I am really sad. I didn't where was Where was there?

547
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Speaker 4: Was it? They in Vegas?

548
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Speaker 5: It was in Vegas.

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Speaker 6: See Paul Coral, good friend of mine. You know Paul,

550
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Speaker 6: sure he was there with his wife and kids, so

551
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Speaker 6: he got to see all that.

552
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Speaker 5: He was blessed to see Destiny's Child.

553
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Speaker 2: You know what. Paul was ahead of me and the

554
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Speaker 2: Paul powerpole here locally, and now he fell behind me.

555
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Speaker 2: The whole Destiny's Child thing I'm sorry, Paul, I'm sorry.

556
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Speaker 7: Okay, this last one, This last one I will say

557
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Speaker 7: is courtesy of my training camp roommate, our team photographer,

558
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Speaker 7: Caitlyn Epps, So shout out to her.

559
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Speaker 4: Didn't curl.

560
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Speaker 7: Yes, I'm sorry, but it's her professional name is still

561
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Speaker 7: EPP's photography. So if you want to follow her.

562
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Speaker 4: On all socials, say, I think she gets irritated with.

563
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Speaker 7: So Caitlin is the one. I mentioned this when I

564
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Speaker 7: was talking about influencer Tricia Petus.

565
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Speaker 4: And the theory that Aquaman.

566
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Speaker 7: Yes Aquaman, that when her children are born on the

567
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Speaker 7: same day that major celebrities die, that those celebrities have

568
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Speaker 7: been reincarnated as her children. So Caitlyn brought up the

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Speaker 7: discussion point. It's really more of a question for the

570
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Speaker 7: two of you, rather than culturing you. If you could

571
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Speaker 7: have a new child, no offense to your already born children,

572
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Speaker 7: a new child that is, is a reincarnated celebt.

573
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Speaker 5: Who would you choose?

574
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Speaker 4: Celebrity? It would have to be a celebrity.

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Speaker 7: Yes, goodness, Wow, I'll get the ball rolling because I've

576
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Speaker 7: had a little bit of time to think about this, right,

577
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Speaker 7: I think Robin Williams would be a great answer that

578
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Speaker 7: kind of personality and humor.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, as long as it would be at home,

580
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Speaker 2: because that would be mentally exhausting.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if we're just talking about the surface part

582
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Speaker 6: of it, I mean, I don't know if I want

583
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Speaker 6: to be having a kid reincarnated into somebody with with

584
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Speaker 6: all due respective, Robin Williams had a lot of mental

585
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Speaker 6: issues in terms of like he struggled his whole life.

586
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Speaker 6: I don't it's hard enough being a parent when everything

587
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Speaker 6: is quote unquote normal.

588
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Speaker 4: That would be kind of time I'm.

589
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Speaker 5: Saying more than humor. Diana is another good answer.

590
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Speaker 2: Sure, I don't know. Warren Buffett, you know generational wealth?

591
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Speaker 2: How about that?

592
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a. That's a.

593
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Speaker 7: I think this conversation worked better and it was just

594
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Speaker 7: Caitlin and myself and our photography.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's it. You both have been culture.

596
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Speaker 4: Of your walk could have been teed up so we

597
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Speaker 4: get a thought about it.

598
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Speaker 2: But can I can I pose a follow up question

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Speaker 2: from the yes the footwork comment about Destiny's child or

600
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Speaker 2: you're measuring it to within inches of high heels? I mean,

601
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Speaker 2: what are you for real on that?

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Speaker 7: I mean, when you look at the photos just the

603
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Speaker 7: synchronization is it is almost precise the way they are

604
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Speaker 7: stepping to the same beat.

605
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Speaker 2: So when you sit down with Kyler Murray, you should

606
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Speaker 2: show him a video of that footwork and then you know,

607
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: just get his comments. You know, and that's sort of

608
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Speaker 2: footwork because you know, there's so much made by Drew

609
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Speaker 2: Petsing of his quarterbacks footworks and left foot or right foot,

610
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Speaker 2: you know what.

611
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Speaker 7: The quarterback would respect that or would he just get

612
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 7: up and walk away. I don't know if he's a

613
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Speaker 7: Destiny's Child fan.

614
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Speaker 6: I did enjoy the fact that, yeah, he's been doing

615
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 6: a lot of country concerts, Like I mean.

616
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Speaker 5: I can't relate to me.

617
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Speaker 2: Maybe he was a cowboy carter himself. Here we go.

618
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Speaker 6: I did find out humorous with Kyler talking about what

619
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Speaker 6: makes a good quarterback or how you have to be successful,

620
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Speaker 6: and he was talking about being good at the boring

621
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Speaker 6: things and acknowledging that he has had to be reminded

622
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Speaker 6: over and over to work on the boring things over

623
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Speaker 6: and over and over because that's what makes you elite.

624
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Speaker 6: I thought that was very self aware and super accurate.

625
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Speaker 2: As long as he doesn't play like that. And what

626
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Speaker 2: I mean by that is, he's not Trent Dilfer, he's

627
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: not a game manager, he's not a boring quarterback. So

628
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: when it's third and gotta have it, be Kyler Murray

629
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Speaker 2: and I do think we're gonna see more of that

630
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: this year. I really do. I think instead of okay,

631
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: you know, first, second, and third objective, stay in the pocket,

632
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: read the defense, no, I think when you're in those moments,

633
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Speaker 2: I'm Kyler Murray, You're not. I'm gonna get out, I'm

634
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Speaker 2: gonna create with my legs. I don't think we've seen

635
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Speaker 2: a lot of it, if any of it, here in camp.

636
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Speaker 2: But I do think when the regular season starts and

637
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Speaker 2: games are on the line, especially in the second half,

638
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Speaker 2: that I'd love Craig Riolu get on that start tracking

639
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: that stat right now. I'd like to know in certain

640
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Speaker 2: moments what the analytics say about Kyler's willingness and propensity

641
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: to pull it down and just run and try and

642
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 2: make a defense look stupid.

643
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Speaker 7: The most discussions have been about off script plays, so

644
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 7: we'll see about design quarterback runs. It's not something we

645
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 7: have seen a lot of the last couple of years.

646
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 7: We'll see if that changes this time around.

647
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Speaker 2: What other big picture observations. Have you guys written down

648
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Speaker 2: in your notes? I mean speaking agreed, right, you got notes,

649
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Speaker 2: you got stabbed.

650
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Speaker 6: I mean I would have to say, because this is

651
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 6: like really low hanging fruit. But I feel like Trey

652
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 6: McBride has been everywhere early and again as good as

653
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 6: he is, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, obviously Marvin's

654
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Speaker 6: gotten the ball and he's going to get the ball.

655
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 6: But like I watch what they're doing out there, and

656
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, Trey McBride's not going anywhere. He still

657
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 6: feels like he's going to be target number one.

658
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: How about some of the comments. Kyler himself said that

659
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: he turned to Trey the other day and said, you

660
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: know what, your name's going to be on these rafters

661
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: up here with some of the luminaries in the Ring

662
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: of Honor. You keep going to this rate. Jonathan A.

663
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: Gannon half. I think about how he told Nick Rolis,

664
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: Trey McBride keeps wrecking all our defenses, keeps wrecking all

665
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: our practices. You're going to figure out a way how

666
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 2: to check them. And they sort of had a good

667
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: nature debate about what do you do? It's the same

668
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: debate every division rival, every Cardinals opponent is having. Yes,

669
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: how do you defend eighty five?

670
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 4: You know?

671
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 6: And again you know when you're using the multi tight

672
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 6: end lineups that they do, formations that they do. It's

673
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 6: not just because they want to run the ball. It's

674
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 6: also in a situation where if you're using all those

675
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 6: tight ends, then you're having more linebackers and defensive linemen

676
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 6: on the field from the defense. And then all of

677
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 6: a sudden, perhaps you get a matchup with Trey McBride

678
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 6: that the defense does not want to have.

679
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: The question I wanted to pose is Drew Pets And

680
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: at his press conference they didn't get in and it

681
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: got caught off twice. I'm not gonna tell it. Name

682
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: names is to which TV anchors cut me off? It

683
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: was tip Ryman? Is there a potential for tip Ryman

684
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: to be more of a target in the past game?

685
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: See for me, I get it in terms of you know, priority,

686
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: he's like seventh right in terms of targets, maybe even lower.

687
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: But but if Trey's gonna get all that attention and

688
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: you don't really have an established wide receiver two or

689
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: three yet, I mean, could you catch a defense by

690
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: surprise by targeting tip rime.

691
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not gonna say no because you want

692
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 6: him on the field when you can, But I just

693
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 6: I mean, he's the third target in the tight end room.

694
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 6: Like they clearly want to go to Elijah Higgins, who

695
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 6: I think has developed. He's been a I mean, Elijah

696
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 6: Higgins is probably not going to reach a Pro Bowl

697
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 6: and you're only gonna have one of those tight ends.

698
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 6: But like, Elijah Higgins has made huge strides in my opinion,

699
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 6: since he showed up and I.

700
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 5: Shut up as a wide receiver.

701
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 6: Yes, so, I mean I think he's I think they've

702
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 6: turned that tight end room into which again you and I, Paul,

703
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 6: we've been around this team basically since forever. Like for

704
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 6: them to have this strong of a tight end room

705
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 6: just really shocks.

706
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: Somebody shouted out on the sideline it was a couple

707
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: of practices ago. Deepest tight end room in the league.

708
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 4: I would have to look and I'm like, well enough.

709
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: Interesting, I mean top to bottom one through.

710
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 4: I know the Cowboys had one, but didn't they just

711
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 4: lose one of their guys.

712
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 7: It's also interesting of what you would consider a deep

713
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 7: room because what is asked of the tight ends here

714
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 7: in terms of multi set, multi tight end sets, right,

715
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 7: and the blocking is that different than what is asked

716
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 7: of tight ends in other rooms? Like, I don't know it.

717
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 7: It's a good discussion. I think it's just something that's

718
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 7: unique for each team of what is being asked those players.

719
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know Trey McBride, Tip Ryman, Elijah Higgins,

720
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: and then of course you have Marvin Harrison Junior. You know,

721
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: is your four tight end According to Paris Johnson Junior

722
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: person that was a.

723
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 5: Great line weight he put on.

724
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: When Marv walks into the huddle, they're like twelve personnel.

725
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 6: I enjoyed better when it was like, well Marvin gets

726
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 6: confused and he starts running off.

727
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, you're supposed to be out here.

728
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: So have you seen any I don't know before and

729
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: after actually, in an as to how the muscle gains

730
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: have served Marvin Harrison Jr.

731
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Speaker 4: There was there was a play.

732
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: It's subjective, but have you seen get off me that?

733
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: Well?

734
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was one with Will Johnson and Pad of

735
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 6: Practice where I think Will was trying to In fact,

736
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 6: it might have been the play you and I kept

737
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 6: talking about. I think Carl Johnson tried to press him

738
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 6: and Marvin just kind of.

739
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 4: Went and done.

740
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 6: But but there's been a couple of times where he's pushed.

741
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 6: There was another time on a catch where I think

742
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 6: it was the one on one one, but it was

743
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 6: one of those where you don't go downfield, but you're

744
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 6: curling in so the defenders on your back and just

745
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 6: coming in and I think it was Will Johnson. Actually,

746
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 6: Will Johnson came up and I think Will Johnson thought

747
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 6: the way we're colliding and where my hand is, this

748
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 6: ball's popping out and Marvin didn't let it go, and

749
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 6: I think Will Johnson looked a little surprised, like, wow,

750
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 6: I didn't dislodge that ball, And that's what people are

751
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 6: taalking about. I had a question in the mail bag

752
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 6: this week about how many times last year Marvin lost

753
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 6: the ball because the defender could get his arm in

754
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 6: between his two hands. Now, I'm like, well, I don't

755
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 6: think they have stats on that. I do remember it

756
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 6: happening a couple of times, and I don't care how

757
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 6: strong you are. If you're an NFL player and you're

758
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 6: getting an arm between those two arms in the speed

759
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 6: of the game, it's going to be hard to come

760
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 6: down with a touchdown, you go. But I mean I

761
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 6: do think he just I I agree with Kyler. I

762
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 6: think between the muscle gain and the confidence you're just

763
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 6: naturally going to have. Everybody talks about this year Wonder,

764
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 6: Year two Jump. I don't think it's about the learning

765
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 6: curve to me as much as the confidence anything else.

766
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 4: I remember.

767
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 6: Covering this team for the first time full time in

768
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 6: two thousand and then you're you're kind of learning your way.

769
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 4: I going into this.

770
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 6: I was so excited to go into my second training

771
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 6: camp because like, I know what I'm doing now. I

772
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 6: think even if you're you don't know all the nuances

773
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 6: of what you still have to learn. There's just a

774
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 6: part of every person that goes into the second year

775
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 6: of whatever it might be, and you're like, Okay, I

776
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 6: can do this as I've done it.

777
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 7: Absolutely more comfortable and confident in himself. And that shows

778
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 7: in his play, that shows and how he speaks to

779
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 7: the media. What's been key about the weight Harrison has

780
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 7: put on is that it's muscle. That's how you can

781
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 7: add weight and keep speed or actually get faster. Is

782
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 7: not putting on fat, but putting on muscle. So to

783
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 7: put on seemingly eleven pounds of muscle is going to do

784
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 7: nothing but help him. It's going to help him be stronger,

785
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 7: and contesta catches help him be faster when he's breaking

786
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 7: his route. So ideally we should see I don't want

787
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 7: to say it completely new Marvin Harrison Junior, because he

788
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 7: had a good rookie outing, but a very elevated version

789
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 7: of what we saw.

790
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: It's going to be different. You know, the physical strength,

791
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: the mental strength of the confidence. I think, the way

792
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: they use him, I mean you've already seen him in

793
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: motion more in camp. Dare I say you've seen the

794
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: cheap motions in some way of the drills that the

795
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: Dolphins love to use with Jalen Waddle and Tyreek Hill. Okay,

796
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: Craig Grielho had a stat there was some sort of

797
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 2: analytic where he was only in motion seven times last year.

798
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: So I think it'll be different in so many, so

799
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: many ways. So we'll see. I mean, look, if he

800
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: can just increase his rate of contested catch, what does

801
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: that do for this offense? A lot? Does a lot.

802
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: So beyond that, I'm trying to think any other real

803
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: standouts in terms of look in terms of questions, you know,

804
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: right side of the offensive line. I'm still wondering about.

805
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. Isaiah Adams tracking, Well, we'll

806
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: see I mean gotten to the free I meant got

807
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: to the red white practice yet, But you know, Jonah

808
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: Williams okay, and if not Kelvin Beacham, I mean it

809
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 2: is amazing. You'll see a rookie in those on line

810
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: D line drills and they'll struggle and they'll be all

811
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: a lot of sorts, and then Kelvin Beachan will make

812
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: it look so easy. The best at anything in life

813
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: are those who make that ta look easy, and that's

814
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: what beach does. So I guess he's always the fallback

815
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: plan there. But we'll see. All right, what else do

816
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: we have in terms of winning behavior? Are we going

817
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: to go through this right here?

818
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 6: We could do winning behavior no sounder, but you know

819
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 6: we all want we'll see winning behavior.

820
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 2: I'm waiting because I thought maybe we edited that in later.

821
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: But I was also waiting on Cardinal's bird watch that

822
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: we would edit out something later and then my smores.

823
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 5: I'm not in charging meet it.

824
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 6: Dann Okay, you know what, this is a good place

825
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 6: to start explain what we're talking about. And why is

826
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 6: there already beef between the two of you.

827
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 5: I don't have beef.

828
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: So maybe it's Matthew over there, my mustachioed colleague over there.

829
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't know whoever was responsible for the final edit.

830
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 7: The Cardinals bird watch. And we had a campfire because

831
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 7: it's camp and any and I was unable to professionally

832
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 7: conduct myself because I got off on a laughing fit

833
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 7: watching Paul try to make a smore and I had

834
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 7: a call a audible in the moment, and we were

835
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 7: both under the person that would not make the final edit,

836
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 7: and much to our surprise.

837
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 5: It did.

838
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 6: And you know what that's winning behavior is for that

839
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 6: to make the final edit?

840
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 2: Right?

841
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 4: We all need a little humor in ours, Paul.

842
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I'll take one for the team on

843
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: that front. I mean, come on, I grew up in

844
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 2: the Silicon Valley. I didn't go any stinking campfires. Okay,

845
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: I mean I thought s'more was like a stockticker smo R.

846
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: What else do we have? But the earth is spinning

847
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 2: faster this summer.

848
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 6: Now, yeah, it's not just the summer. I did read

849
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 6: the whole article. It's it's been doing that for a while. Yeah,

850
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 6: then we're talking about milliseconds. But after a while catches

851
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 6: up with you.

852
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, point three four and one point twenty

853
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: five milliseconds shorter than twenty four hours.

854
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 4: That adds up over however many years we've been around, Paul.

855
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: What's the margin of error in tracking milliseconds per twenty

856
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: four hour period? Because I would like to argue, I

857
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: physical we can't even rely on these figures.

858
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 4: I did not stay at a holiday and express last night.

859
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what is the ninety five percent confidence

860
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: interval with the degree of marginal are.

861
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 4: Going to be a hater?

862
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: Okay, let's move on here, coming from the guy who

863
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: is consistently a hater whenever I bring out something that's uh,

864
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: that's fair culturally savvy idea. Here, Oh Astronomer and the

865
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: Gwyneth Paltrow video.

866
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 4: Yes, we talked about the cold Play couple last week.

867
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Speaker 6: Oh boy, the CEO eventually resigned the company.

868
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 4: What was it called astronomer?

869
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 6: Astronomer and I'm still not one hundred percent sure what

870
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 6: they do, but they they hired Gwyneth Paltrow, who not

871
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Speaker 6: only is obviously a famous actress also the ex wife

872
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 6: of Coldplay's lead singer, which I did not know, and

873
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 6: they hired her to do a minute long video where

874
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 6: she answers a couple questions about what the company is

875
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 6: all about. And it's so nice that you're you're now

876
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 6: interested in our company. So as long as you're having

877
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 6: you know, as long as you're here and you have

878
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 6: interest in our company, here's what we're about.

879
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: That's pretty I.

880
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 6: Did see someone as say it would have been cooler

881
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 6: if they'd been been able to get it out a

882
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 6: couple of days earlier than that, because it's some time

883
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 6: it passed. Still, yeah, I mean, still a fantastic pivot.

884
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 7: Considering where they were crisis management to take advantage of

885
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 7: all the engagement. I did see online that supposedly the

886
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 7: man behind the affair is suing Coldplay.

887
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 5: I did see that reportedly on what grounds lie distress?

888
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 5: Emotional distress maybe.

889
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, maybe in a civil court, damages of some sort.

890
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 4: Okay, but that video big time winning behavior.

891
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ryan Reynolds apparently yes, behind that as well. So

892
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: sort of remind you ever seen the movie Big Short

893
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: on the whole you know, Real Estate Collapse two thousand

894
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: and eight and for all the financial you know, Minutia,

895
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 2: they got Margot Robbie in a bubble bath to explain

896
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 2: all the financials, and so I was sort of buckin

897
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: to that. Marvin Ayerson Junior eating breakfast okay as the

898
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: key to muscle game.

899
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 4: I thought that was interesting.

900
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 6: I'm far enough away from being in my early twenties,

901
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 6: but I do recall being in a place where I

902
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 6: never wanted to eat breakfast. And it was just funny

903
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 6: when I'm hearing Marvin Harrison say about one of the things,

904
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 6: and then obviously it's not the only thing. Just going

905
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 6: eating a bunch of eggs isn't going to put on

906
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 6: nine pounds of muscle or eleven pounds of muscle.

907
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: But I don't know it worked for Rocky with all

908
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 2: the raw eggs, you know, in the morning.

909
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: But when he said, I just started eating more.

910
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 6: I know, I never like to eat breakfast, and I

911
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 6: realized the importance of a good breakfast early in the morning.

912
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 6: And I'm like, and I said in the press conference,

913
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 6: I said, does that make you like every other like

914
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 6: twenty year old and goes, yeah, yeah, it's just getting

915
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 6: an adult. But it is funny, like how when you're

916
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 6: that age, you like have no desire to like to.

917
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 4: Get her breakfast.

918
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 6: I mean game sitting here eat drinking a protein shake

919
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 6: instead of my defense.

920
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 7: I had a five thirty wake up call for seven

921
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 7: am interview and then I'm here, so I didn't really

922
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 7: have breakfast time.

923
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 4: She's a grinder.

924
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: Paul, Wow, Okay, that's good. But when you see JG,

925
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: you know, shout out your wake up call. Whether he's

926
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: the one who likes to get up up at five

927
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: am and work out.

928
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 4: He's not the only one. But anyways, fucking.

929
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 6: But anyways, I just I found it humorous that Marvin

930
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 6: Harrison's like, these guys are pro athletes and they're here

931
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 6: and yet they still like, yeah, I decided I probably

932
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 6: should start eating breakfast.

933
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, you sound like my kids, Like yeah,

934
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: good for you.

935
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 6: My oldest son at one point, there's been so many

936
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 6: times where I see him and he doesn't live with

937
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 6: me anymore, but I see him and I'm like, hey,

938
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 6: you know, are you gonna did you eat lunch it?

939
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 6: And he goes, no, no, he goes, I haven't eaten

940
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 6: anything today. And it's like one o'clock in the afternoon.

941
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 6: I'm like, what are you doing?

942
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: I told you what the new barminter of the gauge

943
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: is from productivity at Cosa CALVICI with two teenagers during

944
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: the summer when I get home after work. Were you

945
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 2: more productive than Cheeto the dog? For example, yesterday Cheeto

946
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: woke up my fifteen year old at twelve thirty because

947
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: he was due, so he said, I always get my

948
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: treat around noon. What you're still sleeping? And he woke

949
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: her up and I said, well, you failed. You failed.

950
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: The dog was more productive? Then?

951
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: Wait? Is your daughter not in school yet? Not yet? No?

952
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 2: Wow, can't come soon enough? Let's yes? Okay, so, oh

953
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 2: my goodness. All right, what else do you want? Here's

954
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 2: my final question? What else do you want to see

955
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 2: between Cardinals camp in the first preseason game? What else

956
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: are you're like? Okay, you know what. It'd be nice

957
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: to get an answer to that. It'd be nice to

958
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: see that player flash here in this situation? Is there

959
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 2: anything else that you'd like to see other than the obvious?

960
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: Maybe some of the injured guys return ahead of schedule.

961
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 6: But if you're on that, if we're not going with

962
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 6: low hanging fruit like the injury stuff, that's that's I

963
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 6: think that's a really good question because I'm not sure

964
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 6: exactly what's going to get answered. I do I'm sure

965
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 6: they're going to have those one on one drills again,

966
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 6: and I do want to see again when we talk

967
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 6: about some of these offensive linemen going again against some

968
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 6: of these veteran defensive linemen and how they hold up.

969
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 6: It was funny. I was talking to some other people

970
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 6: that I can't remember if it was Zach Er or Greed,

971
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 6: but we were talking about Justin Jones going against somebody

972
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 6: down the depth chart with the offensive line, and it's

973
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 6: gonna work out that way because they have so many

974
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 6: players in the defensive line. You have a guy that

975
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 6: was one of your starters last year and probably still

976
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 6: could be one of your starters, and he's gonna go

977
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 6: against a guy who may or may not make this

978
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 6: team because of how deep you are at the defensive line.

979
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 6: I mean, that's great help for the offensive lineman.

980
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 4: I'm in.

981
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 6: I'm hoping their defensive linemen are getting the kind of

982
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 6: work they need to, but I'm fascinated to see how

983
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 6: some of these upper depth chart defensive lineman Isaiah Adams

984
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 6: in particular, like continue to hone their skills against these

985
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 6: guys that they built up, and probably the offense in general.

986
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 6: I mean Kyler said, okay, that first pat of practice stunk. Okay,

987
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 6: let's see how good it gets.

988
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 7: It's hard to not say offensive line cornerbacks with the

989
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 7: opportunity that is there, who is going to step up

990
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 7: and make the most of those reps? You can talk

991
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 7: about wide receivers. Is there going to be a wide

992
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 7: receiver too that's really going to solidify themselves as that

993
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 7: role is. We even talked a lot about Zay Jones.

994
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 4: I think he's looked good.

995
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 7: So what kind of role is he carved out? Greg Dortch,

996
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 7: is he going to have a similar role in the

997
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 7: past or is that going to be expanded. There's a

998
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 7: lot of things that it's still early and to Darren's point,

999
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 7: how much are we really going to gather from training camp?

1000
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 7: Only a certain amount. There's a handful of things, especially

1001
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 7: on the offense.

1002
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: I don't think it's locked in yet, but unlike the

1003
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 4: last couple of years, I do think there's a chance

1004
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: they could be padded up for the red and white practice,

1005
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 4: where the last couple of years they haven't been on Saturday.

1006
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 6: So that's a big day for the fans. Make sure

1007
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 6: you get your tickets. Obviously, Red and White practice on Saturday.

1008
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 6: What's the day is that? The second August second, So

1009
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 6: make sure you keep so make sure you go to

1010
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 6: Ezycardinals dot com and get your tickets.

1011
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 5: They're free.

1012
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 4: They're free, and everything's parking is free. Tickets are free.

1013
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 6: And if they do end up being passed it out

1014
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 6: there on Saturday, I mean, it's never going to be

1015
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 6: like the old days where you're actually scrimmaging.

1016
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 4: We're way past that.

1017
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 6: But if they're padded up, I mean, it makes for

1018
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 6: a little bit more interesting of a practice and it'll

1019
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 6: be fun. It'll be a fun day and then we'll

1020
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 6: wrap up that first then we're into a game week.

1021
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: It's crazy live goal line drill. How long ago was

1022
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: it Red and White they would do a live goal

1023
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: line drill? Wasn't that long ago?

1024
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 6: It wasn't as long as I mean, I know Wizna

1025
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 6: used to do it. I think Arians might have done

1026
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 6: it a couple of times. But like we're long past

1027
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 6: the full on scrimmage at the walk up SkyDome and

1028
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 6: flag staff.

1029
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: By the way, I hope the two of you appreciate

1030
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: State Farm Stadium. Can we just get a golf clap

1031
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: for climate control? Did you happen to see back together weekend?

1032
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: And as they popped around all the camps, including Cardinals camp,

1033
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: I mean, raiders are outside in Vegas practicing insane heat

1034
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: in the Midwest, like Kansas City Chiefs heat index is

1035
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: like one oh five and they're out there practicing in

1036
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: the middle of the day. East Coast Commander's Camp.

1037
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 7: I mean there's some sends, the colds, all that humidity,

1038
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 7: and you know what, I used to be a believer.

1039
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 2: Okay, good, you know, tough, get guys tough, get guys

1040
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 2: in shape. Now with a seventeen game regular season, I

1041
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: really wonder if some of those teams fade. Yeah, Like,

1042
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: remember it was a good ten to fifteen years ago.

1043
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: Now remember that camp. Mike's singletary ran with the forty

1044
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: nine ers and it was like medieval and they came

1045
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: out and they started like eight and two and then

1046
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: they went two and six down the street. I mean

1047
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 2: they faded hard.

1048
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 6: Before the bubble at the Cardinals facility. That used to

1049
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 6: be an argument about the Cardinals is one of the

1050
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 6: reasons they struggled. Would be because of all the heat

1051
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 6: practices they had to do early in the season.

1052
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 7: I'm on the schedule in front of me. How many

1053
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 7: games do the Cardinals even play outdoors? Cincinnati Tampa Bay?

1054
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: You know what, that's a great observation of buddy of mine, and.

1055
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 5: I went Caroline is here.

1056
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 7: Those might be the only two even open stadium games

1057
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 7: they play in.

1058
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: See if they can find it right away. A buddy

1059
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: of mine sent me as stat and I can't find it,

1060
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: but the Cardinals have the most indoor games of any

1061
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: team in the NFL this year. It's either thirteen or

1062
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 2: fourteen indoor games.

1063
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

1064
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 5: And and again, oh Seattle.

1065
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 4: Seattle'll be outdoors, that's true. Yeah, it's forty nine ers

1066
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 4: as well, So I mean you have a few, but still.

1067
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 5: Probably thirteen indoors. I guess the math.

1068
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 6: Look the way they're talking about building new stadiums these days,

1069
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 6: a dome is on the table every single city they

1070
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 6: talk about, every single one.

1071
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: And U sideline reporters salute that. And we'll leave you

1072
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: with that, also with a shout out Jimal Mahundra with

1073
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: a final note over there is that what you're gonna

1074
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: throw out there?

1075
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 6: AQ Shipley, as we mentioned earlier, is now the the

1076
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 6: Ron Wolfully replacement on the radio broadcast and joining you, Paul.

1077
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: Well, that was gonna be my segue there. You know,

1078
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 2: as long as AQ, you know, respects the sideline reports.

1079
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: You know, that's a we have to I have to

1080
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: have a long conversation with AQ.

1081
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 5: Sure I love that.

1082
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh but no, it's and we mentioned a

1083
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: little earlier, but I can't reiterate enough. I mean the

1084
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: combination of what I call infotainment, information and entertainment, because

1085
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: why do people come to sports, Why do people come

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Speaker 2: to football as an escape? It's entertainment. Okay, it can't

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Speaker 2: be all a math lecture, it can't be all analytics.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there has to be the anecdotal. There has

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Speaker 2: to be the concrete content and the analysis. I get it.

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Speaker 2: But the very best in that role combine all the above.

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Speaker 2: That's why Wolf, in my opinion, was elite, because I

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Speaker 2: mean he sounded like football. In fact. Now I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I mean he might get now that he's eligible a

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Speaker 2: free agent. Maybe the WW is gonna recruit Wolf, you know,

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Speaker 2: that's his calling, or the guy with the wrestler voice.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he needs to go announce some of the rest.

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Speaker 6: Now, if we just hired a guy a Q Shipley

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Speaker 6: who's already tied with the wrestling dude, Pat McAfee, so

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Speaker 6: Wolf doesn't, we can only have one of them hovering around. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I have noticed Wolf's been around the practice. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I know he's doing Arizona Sports, but it's it's it's

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Speaker 6: just it's an interesting time.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And and obviously AQ is gonna have a different style

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Speaker 6: than the Wolf did, but uh, we've got we've got

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Speaker 6: a good crew and hopefully you and passion won't ruin him.

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Speaker 2: And you know what we're gonna obviously we're gonna see

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Speaker 2: AQ on uh on a lot of these platforms and

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Speaker 2: talking to him real soon, like real soon, like starting

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Speaker 2: probably red and White. You're gonna start hearing from Aq

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Speaker 2: quite a bit. Not that he hasn't received already enough

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Speaker 2: publicity via the McAfee show and getting retweets by Adam

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Speaker 2: Schefter and so forth.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, the same thing happened when you got hired Paul.

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Speaker 2: Hey robust start for a Q Shipley. As we disregard that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know we started, uh we end right where we started.

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